WEBVTT - Karol Markowicz Show: Reviving Traditional Storytelling with Libby Emmons 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.200 Him and welcome back to the Carrel Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:12.600 Tyler Cowen wrote two articles this week that bothered me 0:00:13.039 --> 0:00:16.680 enough to discuss them. Both were in the Free Press, 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:19.680 an outlet that I really enjoy. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.800 One of them was on how. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:28.440 The elites got COVID mostly right. If you know anything 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:32.640 about me, I very much don't think so, and I'm 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:36.599 writing an article about that now, so look for it 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:38.800 in the New York Post or maybe on the Fox 0:00:38.840 --> 0:00:42.360 News website. We'll see. But his other piece is somehow 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:46.200 even more wrong than that one. It's called the Case 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:50.280 for Living Online, or why I often choose my phone 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.560 instead of flesh and blood. He writes, why do I 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.320 spend so much of my time with email, group chats 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.000 and also writing for larger audiences such as repressed readers. 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.280 I ask myself that earnestly, and I have arrived at 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.520 a pretty good answer. I believe that by spending time 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.920 online I will meet and befriend a collection of individuals 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.919 around the world who are pretty much exactly the people 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.360 I want to be in touch with, and then I 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.520 will be in touch with them regularly. I call them 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:22.959 the perfect people for me. I recognize that many of 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.119 these communications are online, and thus they are thinner than 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.200 many more local, face to face relationships. Yet I do 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.720 end up meeting most of these people and with great 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.280 pleasure that in turn enhances the quality of the online communications. 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.520 And frankly, if forced to choose, I would rather have 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.480 thinner relationships with the perfect people for me than regular 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.120 bear hugs and beer guzzlings with people who are in 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.040 the eighty seventh percentile for me Endue. The problem with 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:55.760 this is that you may meet these people once, twice, 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.920 even twenty times, let's say, but they're not a part 0:01:59.920 --> 0:02:04.520 of your everyday life. Their proximity does not allow for 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:09.280 true closeness, for true friendship. But I think what Tyler 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.160 is describing is exactly what people do get caught up 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:17.680 in when, for example, they do online dating. Why settle 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.080 for just eighty seven percent compatible when clearly the one 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.640 hundred percentile would be better. But I just think one 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.960 hundred is an illusion. You can only imagine that you're 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.440 one hundred percent compatible with someone when you have limited 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:36.119 interaction with them. It's the whirlwind romance that you have 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:40.800 when you're studying abroad in college. Pablo or Marco or 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:46.000 Susette is just your absolute match. You spend three blissful 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:50.519 months together eating bagets around Paris or on the back 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.799 of a vespa in Rome. Nothing could be better and 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:58.320 no one better suited to you. But nearly anyone who 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:02.360 has tried to take that relationship yes to real life, 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.720 where there are bills and jobs and chores and grocery stores, 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.120 the drudgery of the every day, will find that it 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:15.280 all gets old, very very fast. That's what Tyler has 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.640 with his internet friends. He has the high points and 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.240 sure he can maintain them for longer because he doesn't 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.480 have that romantic connection to burnout without ever having anything 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.240 like real life and real life. And I know I 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.640 say this on here A lot is better eighty seven 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.160 percent compatible with thirteen percent. Where you love your spouse 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:42.120 or your friend anyway because their imperfections make them a 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:46.800 real person is actually amazing. I've made friends online, Don't 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:50.640 get me wrong. I cried when a friend I knew 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:54.520 mostly just on Twitter died, But a lot of the 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:58.080 time I've watched the death of someone that we all 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:02.680 know online hit the end online world, and people are sad. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.560 People might give their condolences or say a word or 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:11.440 two about the person or be shocked, but it lasts 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:16.440 a minute and then they're scrolling and retweeting like nothing 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.919 had ever happened. That person's actual family and their actual 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.640 friends in real life will miss them, and they are 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:28.880 who is important. Thanks for listening. Coming up my interview 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:33.440 with Libby Emmons. But first, Israel is still under attack. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:38.560 Missile fire has resumed from Israel's enemies, terrorists who seek 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:43.360 utter death and destruction. Here in America, we can't imagine 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.040 what it's like to live in constant beer like this, 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.560 but for the people of Israel, it's all very real 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.719 every single day. Please join me and show the people 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.880 of Israel you'll help protect them in this time of 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.520 attack and uncertainty. 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Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Marcowitz 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.480 Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is Libby Emmons. Libby 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.360 is editor in chief of The Post Millennial. Thank you 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:04.200 so much for coming on. 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:05.680 Libby, Sure, thank Carol. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.600 So we knew each other a little bit in Brooklyn, 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:10.920 and I know a little bit about your story how 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.560 you got into this thing of ours. But you came 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:16.200 from the theater world, is that right? 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:17.400 Yeah. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.680 Most of my career was in theater, doing weird, experimental 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:26.320 downtown shows and tiny theaters hoping people would come. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:31.640 And then I spoke out against trans. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.400 And that turned out badly and I had to find 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:39.599 a new career and different friends so rather quickly, at 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:45.960 like twenty nineteen, early twenty nineteen, and I came up 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.360 with this idea that I should just walk through any 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.200 open door, and that's how I got here. 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.719 Do you miss the theater world? Yes, yeah, to go 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:58.880 back to something if it was normal, if it wasn't insane, 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:00.720 but it kind of just as insane. 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.120 Right, It kind of just is insane. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:05.880 I don't know that that door would ever be opened 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:07.000 at this point. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.120 I would love to see. 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:14.040 People on this side of things, making art and making 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:19.920 theater and doing you know, exploring ideas in that aesthetic 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.840 kind of way, picking up the threads of storytelling where 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.240 the arts community has really dropped them years and years ago, 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:34.560 going into creating beautiful things, creating artwork that makes you 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.400 feel something positive when you're sitting in the audience, or 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:41.920 even just doing Shakespeare like it's normal, instead of doing 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:45.200 Shakespeare like Romeo as a Girl Too, you know, or 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.040 doing Mecabeth like it's normal. 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.560 Doing all of these shows. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.880 What was the one they did and they decided the 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:54.960 bad guy in Shakespeare was actually Trump? 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:56.840 That was dumb, you. 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.680 Know, not any one of them. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:00.840 Yeah, your poison. 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:05.239 But I would love to see more traditional pieces done 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:10.920 like they should be, even Ibsen Moliere, any of these guys, 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:14.280 you know, Sam Beckett. I think there's actually a revival 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.040 of Waiting for Goodo that's going to be up on 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.880 Broadway this year with the guys from Bill and Ted's 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.640 Kano Reeves and the other guy, and I really want 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.360 to see that because Bill and Ted's meets Waiting for GOODO. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.240 That's kind of that's very Bakhetian, that works that kind 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.440 of thing. But would I make art again for sure? 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:34.440 And I haven't. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:38.080 I haven't stopped making art, I just have not been 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:39.680 making theater art. 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:43.079 Were you an actress or were you behind the scenes. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:49.600 I was writing plays, So my masters is in playwriting 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.480 and theater, and I was writing plays and producing plays 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.240 and that was that was pretty much all I wanted 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.360 to do from the time I was fourteen years old, 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.439 and so trying to come up with something else to do, 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.600 it was like, well, everything I loved has kind. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:10.320 Of been burned down. I don't really know where to 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:11.240 go from there. 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:15.080 And the thing about theater is you need an audience, 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.720 and if you don't have an audience, there's no point 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:19.040 really to making the work. 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.600 You can write all the scripts that you. 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:26.280 Want, you can do animations of them if you want, 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.840 but like, you need an audience. And I just did 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:33.480 not have the feeling that I in the community where 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:35.920 I was doing the kind of work I was doing, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.920 I was pretty sure I had no audience left. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.559 So that would that's the key thing that you need, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:42.080 you know. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.360 I think it's such a good moment for something like that. Now, 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:46.960 I'm like, I'm going to spend the next, you know, 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.959 a few days trying to talk you into I mean, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.240 I think the work that you do is amazing and 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.760 I love your just your style in general. You've always 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:58.400 been a really interesting follow for me on X and I. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:09:59.720 You know, I think the work you do a post 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:02.959 one it was fantastic, But I feel like you need 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:07.000 to be making plays for the stage, and it's such 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.200 a good moment for that. Our family, we don't watch 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.280 a lot of TV. I just I'm just I'm an 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.880 internet junkie. I'm not like better than anyone. I just 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.000 I just channel my insanity in a different way. But 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:21.720 we started watching that House of David movie series recently, 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.880 and that's you know, made by conservatives. Yeah, we just 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:27.280 we've only we're only one episode in, but it's excellent 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:30.800 and it's you know, for families. But what all the 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.400 other things suggested to me on Netflix, We're all like America, 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.240 it's an amazing country, like just very very different than 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.000 what would have been suggested on Netflix even a year ago. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:43.200 So I think I think this is your moment. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.440 Yeah, well, we only really need fifty thousand dollars in 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.320 a theater space and we can get that's like going 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:50.560 easily done to invest in that. 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:51.920 Let's let's put it together. 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:56.000 I feel like that is an investment that can absolutely happen. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.160 I'm gonna, you know, see if we could do that, 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.040 what would you want to write about? Yeah? What were 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.800 your shows about? Like, what was your theme? 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:04.680 Did you have one? 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.600 I wrote about a lot of different things, and they, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:12.400 you know, pretty different. I wrote satire about I wrote 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.439 this ridiculous satire that was a send up of everything 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.559 that they do to women. So there was trans abortion, 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.640 there was me too stuff in there. There was adoption, surrogacy, 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.400 like all of this crazy stuff. And it was two 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.920 hr reps sitting there going through like all having all 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.840 this crazy stuff happen with no other characters. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.600 That was fun. I wrote replay about. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.880 That would be such a hit, as you know. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.280 I did one about domestic slavery in the United States 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.640 and that was really fascinating. There had actually been sometimes 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:48.640 I would pull stuff from the news and there had 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:51.959 been this long island couple. I remember they were from 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:56.120 Indonesia or something like that, and they had this perfume empire, 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.760 and so they would bring women from their hometown in 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:04.440 Indonesia and essentially enslave them in their home. So that was, 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:09.280 you know, uplifting a lot of but there was a 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:09.920 lot of stuff. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:10.920 There is a lot of stuff. 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.000 My favorite play that I wrote was the last one 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.240 that got performed, and it was called I'm Not an Allegory. 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.040 These are people I know and you know, you know 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:20.720 from Brooklyn. 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.680 So it was about a bunch of people in Brooklyn 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:28.320 that were loosely connected and how they navigate their lives. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:30.480 One of them needs a new job, one of them's 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.360 having sort of like a mental break because of childhood 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.640 trauma that she never dealt with. Somebody else is like 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.839 in love with his coworker and he's trying to take 0:12:39.880 --> 0:12:41.960 her out, and all of the women in the show 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:42.480 kind of end. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.000 Up meeting at a dance class. So it's a very 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:45.760 Brickland show. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.640 Yeah, do you miss Brooklyn? 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.880 I yeah, I love I love Brooklyn. I love New 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:51.480 York City. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.720 My Famili's from New York City, going way back to 0:12:55.760 --> 0:13:01.000 like the Italian immigrants coming over in the nineteen eighteen nineteen, 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:04.800 something like that twenty. My grandparents were born in Brooklyn, 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.440 my mom was born in Brooklyn, my son was born 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:08.280 in Brooklyn. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.520 Yeah, I definitely miss it. 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.840 And I'm that person who's like always looking at the Zillow. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.080 Like, what could I take aut to go back wuity 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.240 loan and buy a new buy place and have two places? 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:22.959 You know? Yeah, I feel like, do the math on 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:24.600 a hotel before you do that. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:29.240 But yeah, right, this is I mean, whenever I. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.640 Think about any property anywhere, I start thinking like I 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:34.480 could live there, I could have a second house there, 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:36.480 And then I'm like, wait, I could just stay there 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.760 in a hotel whenever I want to go. But yeah, 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.360 you know, I obviously I missed the Brooklyn. I miss 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.320 old Brooklyn. I don't know that I miss Brooklyn right now. 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.720 But I miss actually your area where you lived Bay Ridge, 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.600 a lot more than I miss where I lived, which 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:55.040 is Park Slope. Don't miss Park Slope at all. 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:56.840 Pretty different neighborhoods. 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.760 Although in my neighborhood right outside my building, because I 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.480 was I was on like right on Fifth Avenue and Ovington, 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:07.400 there's like it's a very Arab neighborhood. And every weekend 0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:10.920 there were these like big anti Israel protests, and they 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:12.760 were just getting bigger, you know. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.480 Yeah, and now they're a little. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.480 Bigger, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. When I went to high 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:21.360 school in beer Ridge, it was a very Italian area. No, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.720 I really did love it. It was it was a 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.840 great little neighborhood. So what's your life now in Can 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:29.600 I say where you live? 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.400 Yeah? I live. I live in West Virginia. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:34.120 Do you love it or what do you think? 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.200 I do love it. I love having my own house. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.280 I love having a little piece of land. It's a 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.400 very New Yorker thing for me to say, like no 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.600 one can kick me out of my house, that no one. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.120 Carries my rent. I love that. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.400 That's great for me. I have my own parking space. 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:50.840 It's just right out of my house. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:51.400 So good. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.200 So these are basic things, but it is interesting. The 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:57.120 difference is just. 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.520 In lifestyle and what you expect. In New York everything 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.680 is about quality of life. And here it's like I 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.880 pay for my water separate and I pay for my 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.120 trash pick up separate. I just got a bill for 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.240 the ambulance service and I was like, I didn't take 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.160 an ambulance. Oh wait, I have to pay Yeah, every 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:13.560 it's like. 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.200 Wow, super our cart. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.640 I took every libertarian fantasy over. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:22.400 There, right, So, but I always I love where I am. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.280 It's absolutely breathtakingly beautiful, and I love that I'm a 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:27.200 lot closer. 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.520 To DC now, so I do more like DC stuff. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.240 Yeah, I have a warm spot for DC, I know. 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:35.880 But and you get to have kind of the best 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.320 of both worlds. You're in somewhere that you could get 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:39.400 to have land, you get to have. 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:40.160 A parking spot. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:44.280 I fully relate to the parking spot things. When I 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:47.000 am back in Brooklyn and my brother is like, I 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:49.000 have to go move the car, I'm like, oh, yeah, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:50.200 I don't miss that at all. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.320 Or like you do that math, you'd be like, do 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.240 I move the car? Or do I figure they're not 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:56.760 going to tow it? And I'm just paying. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.160 Sixty five bucks for parking this week. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:59.960 It's like not that cheaper than a garage. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:00.680 Right. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.320 Whenever anybody would have that conversation and on the park 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.040 slope boards, like all these people would be like, that's 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.960 so wrong. You shouldn't do that, Like well the math maths, 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:13.200 as the kids say, you know, so what do you 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:14.479 worry about? 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.440 What do I worry about? In terms of like I 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:21.640 worry about the future. I worry about aging. I'm going 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:22.720 to be fifty. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.160 This year, and I find that I find that, oh thanks, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.720 I just find that crazy, Like how could. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.120 I be fifty? Like how can you see? Can that be? 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:32.760 I think that's nuts. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.160 So I think about that, and I think about my 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.320 grandmom and my mom my grandmother's past. But my mom 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:42.120 is like seventy five something like that, and I think 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.080 about Like, so I think about that because mortality is 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.560 this crazy thing and you don't think about it for 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:50.440 your whole life. You run out into the street, you 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.320 don't think about anything. You do whatever crazy stuff comes 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.760 into your mind, and then suddenly you're like, wait, my 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.360 friends are having their knees and hits replaced? 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.960 What is what is is this about? Why is this happening? 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:04.560 So I write in terms of personal stuff. I think 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.840 about that, like what does aging look like? Is the 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.200 kid going to put me in a home? 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:09.919 I don't know. 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.200 I don't think so interesting. 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:14.400 I worry about my son. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:19.760 He's fifteen, and I worry about like getting him sort 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:20.920 of launched. 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:21.359 Into his life. 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.760 Yeah, all of the tools that what tools can I 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.840 give him? You know, you can save money for them. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:31.680 You can make sure you're teaching them stuff, but there's 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.000 like all these variables. You have no idea what might 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:35.920 possibly happen. 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:37.360 I don't really. 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.920 Worry too much about like the broader anxieties of the world, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:47.439 nuclear war, any of that stuff. Like if anything like 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.240 super crazy happens, it's almost a relief. You're like, oh, 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:51.800 I know, I don't have to worry about the stuff 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.480 that was bothering me anymore. 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:54.439 No worries about that. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:59.359 Right now, it's all about foraging place moods now, just 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:00.680 looking for nothing and berries. 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:01.000 You know. 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:06.080 Yeah, I read too many books about Russia during World 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.560 War Two and end up looking at our pantry and 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.600 being like, how long can we survive on just what 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.080 we have here? Yeah, it's it's I mean, they, you know, 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.240 they were all starving to death, and that was not 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.119 that long ago and not you know, not such a 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.920 crazy thing to have happened. So yeah, I think we'd 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.600 be okay for at least a few weeks, maybe a 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:28.200 few months. 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.480 But yeah, it's a you know, I think i'd have 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.560 like a few months because there's also a ton of 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.720 flower You can always just make stuff. 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.280 Right, Yeah, I guess I feel like a few months 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.440 of just we'll be eating like a little pasta every day. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.520 Yeah, my son jokes, because during the pandemic I started 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:46.760 doing like oh yeah. 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:48.600 Yeah, but I was doing like New York Prepper, right, 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.120 so it was like fake prepper. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:54.280 I was like buying cases of pasta, which of course 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.120 doesn't do anything if the gas goes. 0:18:55.920 --> 0:19:01.199 Out, but sure, yeah, yeah, raw. The Russians in my 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.560 war books would happily eat our raw pasta. 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.120 Raw passa. Yeah, yeah, I think about that. My son. 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:12.040 Actually, you just read nineteen eighty four for I think 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.040 the second time, and he's a little obsessed with. 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.560 It, and so we talk about a good one. Yeah, 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:17.119 it's good. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.000 So we talked about some of those themes too. I 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:22.800 was like, next up, you have to read The Master 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:23.600 and Margarita. 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:26.120 Yeah. Wait, is that a good one for you fifteen? 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.600 I don't know. Actually, a really good one is we 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.520 Bai Zimyatun. It's a similar theme to nineteen eighty four. 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:34.600 I have a fifteen year old also, my daughter, but 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:37.040 she's into like fantasy books. But I should get her 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:38.480 to read like nineteen eighty four soon. 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.960 Yeah, it's really I've foisted these on him. 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.200 It was like a little stack. Was that Brave New World? 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:45.600 Fahrenheit four fifty one? 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.080 Go read these and then then we'll have something to 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.000 talk about we have around here on my shelf somewhere. 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:54.520 Yeah, yeah, I definitely check that one out. It's a 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:55.240 really good one. 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:55.800 Yeah. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:57.919 So we're going to take a quick break and be 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:04.520 right back on the Carol Markoitch Show. What advice would 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.879 you give your sixteen year old self? What does sixteen 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:08.959 year old Liby need to know? 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:10.919 What does she need to know? 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:11.280 Oh? 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:14.200 Probably everything you know? Probably. 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.879 I think the best advice would be, no one's looking 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.480 at you, don't worry about it. 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:25.000 No one. You're not in a movie. No one is 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.480 paying attention to anything you think or what you do. 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:29.560 You have more freedom than that. 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.240