Speaker 1: It's Thursday, April. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And now
Speaker 1: a guy who believes the best way to navigate a
Speaker 1: draft is to wear a lovely cozy blue sweating j
Speaker 1: P shack look him at a Jaguars happy hour on
Speaker 1: this Thursday. It is Draft Nights in Duvau. My name's
Speaker 1: jap Shadrick. Glad you're along with us. We're live at
Speaker 1: Daily's place, getting ready for the first round of the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and we have a busy program to night
Speaker 1: here on Tintin x l a M, Jaguars dot com
Speaker 1: and the Jack's social channels Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Jaguars
Speaker 1: analyst Jeff Blagman is always with us. NFL Network analyst
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks is on site with us throughout the draft.
Speaker 1: We stole him away. He's here. We're gonna pick his
Speaker 1: brain all weekend long with this half preview, and we
Speaker 1: will hear from general manager Trent Bulky. We had a
Speaker 1: draft day conversation in the Jaguars draft room at the
Speaker 1: Bank a little bit earlier. Gentlemen, welcome in an happy
Speaker 1: Draft day live. Yeah, thank you, and it's great to
Speaker 1: have Buckey alongside. We're gonna have a little bit of
Speaker 1: conversation there about some draft picks. We're gonna get some
Speaker 1: answers out of you guys, were about answers. We've been
Speaker 1: picking Buckey Sprain for weeks on the Huddle Up podcast,
Speaker 1: and now it comes down to the night. Now. I'm
Speaker 1: really excited, man, It's really exciting. Time you have the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. You have a chance to kind
Speaker 1: of change the forces of the franchise if you get
Speaker 1: the pick right. It's a lot of fresh did you
Speaker 1: you guys remember a draft like this where you're just
Speaker 1: you're going in and there's really not really a known
Speaker 1: entity that's gonna be the first overall draft pick. I mean,
Speaker 1: I say, going back to what the Baker Mayfield draft,
Speaker 1: that's that's the last time you can think about that
Speaker 1: where everyone was guessing on who was going to be
Speaker 1: the number one, but no one real, no one really knows.
Speaker 1: Normally by this time of the day, you gotta have
Speaker 1: a sense it's kind of leaked out on Twitter. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. We haven't heard that yet, No leaking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we're we'll hear from Balky coming up. I
Speaker 1: think with you a little bit. No, No, he said
Speaker 1: they were down to one, so they got that. That's good.
Speaker 1: You didn't say which one. He wrote it down on
Speaker 1: a piece of paper and gave it to JP later.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to know. I'll be quite honest
Speaker 1: with you. But let's hear from General Manager Trim Balky.
Speaker 1: We caught up a little earlier today in the Jaguars
Speaker 1: draft room here at t I A. Bank Field, his
Speaker 1: second draft with the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're ready to make
Speaker 1: a picko. NFL Draft is here. J P. Shadrick with
Speaker 1: General Manager Trent Balky in the draft room at t
Speaker 1: I A A bank Field. Are you excited? What's the
Speaker 1: GM feel on draft day? Hopefully relief? You know, we're excited.
Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of works gone into this. Scouting staff,
Speaker 1: personnel staff, put in a lot of time and here
Speaker 1: we are, you know, on the eve of the pick,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think we're I know we're prepared for it.
Speaker 1: Take us through your checklist on draft day? What all
Speaker 1: do you do? What's your routine? You've done this a
Speaker 1: number of times obviously in San Francisco and now your
Speaker 1: second time here. What's your checklist? Well, we had our
Speaker 1: final meeting yesterday, you know, with ownership, and that went
Speaker 1: extremely well. You know, now it's just waiting for the
Speaker 1: eight o'clock to come here. You know usually what I
Speaker 1: do now is I'll get away from it. I'll take
Speaker 1: my run. I'm gonna go on a nice long run here,
Speaker 1: get get my mind right, and then come back. Try
Speaker 1: to be in the building around five o'clock and get
Speaker 1: ready for eight o'clock. Tell us what you can about
Speaker 1: that final meeting with ownership, shot con in, Doug Peterson, yourself,
Speaker 1: what happens and how do you guys narrow it down?
Speaker 1: You said you were down to four last week. How
Speaker 1: do you get the number one? Well, we've been working
Speaker 1: that way for for a while now. And you know,
Speaker 1: when Shod got this all together, you talked about a
Speaker 1: couple of things, but you know, a collaborative effort and transparency,
Speaker 1: and yesterday's meeting was just to make sure that that
Speaker 1: was exactly what was taking place. And uh, this has
Speaker 1: been a very collaborative effort. There's been a lot of
Speaker 1: people involved, from the personnel side, from the coaching side,
Speaker 1: and even ownership, and that's the way it should be.
Speaker 1: And we're just looking forward to the draft and making
Speaker 1: the picks. How does this number one top of a
Speaker 1: draft compared to some others in the past. To you,
Speaker 1: it feels like, I don't know if you read mocks
Speaker 1: or not. There's a lot of mocks out there, have
Speaker 1: different names everywhere. It seemed a little abnormal. Usually there's
Speaker 1: a slam dunk guy at number one. How different is
Speaker 1: this year? I don't like to compare drafts. You live
Speaker 1: in the moment and the moment we're in now. This
Speaker 1: is this is the draft. These are the available players,
Speaker 1: and you do everything you can to find the right
Speaker 1: players for this organization, for your own organization, and then
Speaker 1: you go to work and and and you make them right.
Speaker 1: At what point do you make final calls to prospects,
Speaker 1: wellness checks? Do you do anything like that on draft day?
Speaker 1: Is that all done? Have you put a bow in
Speaker 1: this thing? Yeah? The draft, the skelet sets. What they've
Speaker 1: been working on the early part of this week is
Speaker 1: calling all the agents, calling all the prospects on the board,
Speaker 1: making sure we verified their phone numbers and and that
Speaker 1: they're healthy and ready to go. Finally, um, you know,
Speaker 1: twelve picks over three days. I don't know if a
Speaker 1: GM likes that or not. That's a lot to handle
Speaker 1: over the next three days. But what is a successful
Speaker 1: day for the Jaguars today at the end of the
Speaker 1: day and a successful weekend meet, Well, I think you
Speaker 1: just go into it. You never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Obviously we know what's gonna happen at one, and then
Speaker 1: from that point on you really don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So you follow the board, You trust the board. You
Speaker 1: put yourself in a position to move up if you
Speaker 1: feel you need to move up, and you put yourself
Speaker 1: in a position when it when the board dictates to
Speaker 1: move back if you can. But you always have to
Speaker 1: be ready, ready and willing to make the pick because
Speaker 1: you don't know if you can move up, and you
Speaker 1: don't know if you can move back, so you're you
Speaker 1: just you always have to be prepared. That's trimp Lucky
Speaker 1: Jaguars general manager a little bit earlier today, we think looks.
Speaker 1: I think the comment that he made there at the
Speaker 1: very end is very tellent that you move back if
Speaker 1: you can, and I think that they would love to
Speaker 1: move back from number one. But the problem is that
Speaker 1: there's no clear cut number one. If there was then
Speaker 1: this team will be in a perfect position to maybe
Speaker 1: trade that pick if there was a quarterback sitting there,
Speaker 1: and then get a hall of picks in the future
Speaker 1: and now and then maybe get one of those top
Speaker 1: four guys that you like. Yeah, it's all about the quarterback. Normally,
Speaker 1: when you're moving up at someone that is a transcendent talent,
Speaker 1: someone that multiple teams would love to get, and right
Speaker 1: now you just don't have that interest because the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: aren't what they've been in previous classes. So even though
Speaker 1: Trends is like to talk about previous classes, is one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why they hadn't been a lot of
Speaker 1: trade interests. I think it was also interesting that he
Speaker 1: talked about it. You you were talking about talking to
Speaker 1: the prospects and etcetera. I remember when I was a
Speaker 1: draft eligible player, Man, I the phone didn't stop ringing
Speaker 1: the day before the draft and the day of the draft.
Speaker 1: Do you happen to know why j P just to
Speaker 1: make sure you're not in trouble, to make sure you
Speaker 1: didn't get hit by a mack truck. Seriously, to make
Speaker 1: sure you were still alive and healthy and you know,
Speaker 1: ready to go, because seriously, they would call you up
Speaker 1: and say, hey, how you doing, how you feeling everything okay?
Speaker 1: And it was you were sitting there just you know,
Speaker 1: thinking yourself out loud, going in there, just trying to
Speaker 1: find out that I'm breathing. That's that's really it. As
Speaker 1: a scout, your job, My job leading up to the
Speaker 1: draft is to make sure I call everybody on the list,
Speaker 1: make sure I get multiple numbers, their primary number, backup number,
Speaker 1: see if they're healthier, stuff, because you want to make
Speaker 1: sure when the pick goes in, you want to be
Speaker 1: able to talk to him before you officially submit to pick.
Speaker 1: About the thought of the meeting last night, Jaguar's owner
Speaker 1: Shot con came in. I wanted to, as Trent Balky said,
Speaker 1: see that collaborative and open effort together. And they've apparently
Speaker 1: come down to one player they're gonna pick. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: once the player is picked, he's a Jaguar and everybody
Speaker 1: in the building has to support him and make sure
Speaker 1: that he has given everything that he needs to be successful.
Speaker 1: From a coaching standpoint, that's put him in the rights position.
Speaker 1: Make sure the scheme is conducive to his talents. From
Speaker 1: a personnel standpoint, he once we own whoever we decided
Speaker 1: to pick, we got to make sure that everything that
Speaker 1: comes out of the building is positive about this pick.
Speaker 1: In the process. I think that this is is just
Speaker 1: uh kind of a sign because you know, there's been
Speaker 1: collaborative meetings with ownership all along through this process. You know,
Speaker 1: I think Sean Conn has spent more time in the
Speaker 1: building this year than he has in recent years from
Speaker 1: from what I understand. And so, look, the reality is
Speaker 1: this final meeting. If if Shan Khan goes, hey, look
Speaker 1: we're drafting player X. Guess which player they're drafting. They're
Speaker 1: drafting player X. I mean he's the owner. He's the
Speaker 1: one that can has the ultimate decision. We'll say that's
Speaker 1: really never been his style though he kind of lets
Speaker 1: the football people do football things. He can have obviously
Speaker 1: has input when he wants to have input, but he's
Speaker 1: never really been that, you know, we're picking this guy,
Speaker 1: come hell or high water. No, I know, I don't
Speaker 1: think he ever has. But I mean, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I mean, when you have next year name,
Speaker 1: you know, job description, it says, oh that gives you that.
Speaker 1: I guess, so do you need another title? No? Just
Speaker 1: owner is good enough. Yeah, Yeah, it's Jaguars Happy x
Speaker 1: L A. M. And Jaguars dot Com, JP Shaddick, Jeff Loghum,
Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks ahead of the NFL Draft. There is
Speaker 1: mother football business going on today with the Jaguars. By
Speaker 1: the way, Josh Allen received the fifth year option today.
Speaker 1: The deadline was made second, So that's another year for
Speaker 1: a former first round pick. And you know, it goes
Speaker 1: to the what the organization has talked about you and
Speaker 1: they haven't done a lot the last ten fifteen years,
Speaker 1: is get your draft picks, keep them in the building
Speaker 1: as long as you can, and then resigned them. The
Speaker 1: resigning parts still to come for Allen, but the fifth
Speaker 1: year option is big to kind of set the tone
Speaker 1: I think on defense. It means from an internal standpoint
Speaker 1: that they feel good enough about what he's put on
Speaker 1: the first three years to say, Okay, we definitely want
Speaker 1: to keep this marriage going into the fifth year and
Speaker 1: possibly be beyond. We have seen in previous years sometimes
Speaker 1: people are unable to get that fifth year option. So
Speaker 1: that bowls well for Josh Allen getting a large term extension.
Speaker 1: It also bowls well from the Jaguar standpoint that they
Speaker 1: drafted a player at the top of the board who
Speaker 1: has played up to the standard expectation that comes along
Speaker 1: with being the first round pick. But the one the
Speaker 1: one thing I will say with Josh from from a
Speaker 1: negative stand point is that he has not been available
Speaker 1: at times. That's right, Okay, So I think that kind
Speaker 1: of maybe impacted the lateness of this decision because from
Speaker 1: a talent standpoint, Josh Allen being you know, have that
Speaker 1: fifth year picked up, that's a no brainer. But you
Speaker 1: would like to see the consistency and production a little
Speaker 1: bit more with Josh, and I think that that will come.
Speaker 1: There's also been reports that Cam Robinson has agreed to
Speaker 1: an extension three year deal fifty four million dollars. That's
Speaker 1: the report, no official word from the team yet hasn't
Speaker 1: signed the deal, but when he does, there you go,
Speaker 1: does that change anything tonight for you? Well? I think
Speaker 1: this is an interesting conversation here because Bucky, this not
Speaker 1: only involves is the contract right for Cam Robinson? Okay,
Speaker 1: you're happy with that number, but then it also kind
Speaker 1: of ventures over to draft talk. Okay, now that Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson has or reportedly has this three year extension, does
Speaker 1: that prohibit the Jaguars from looking at the top two
Speaker 1: rated offensive lineman and and I don't know exactly what
Speaker 1: bucky S thoughts are on this, but I love the
Speaker 1: guy in North Carolina State, Oh. I absolutely love him.
Speaker 1: And I love what Douck has said about the number
Speaker 1: one pick. We gotta get the number one pick right,
Speaker 1: No more pick has to start. He has to be
Speaker 1: a starter with the one thing that we know about
Speaker 1: Ikey Kuanu Ikey Kant is versatile enough to move inside
Speaker 1: and play guard. So to me, I think it's a
Speaker 1: no brain if he's available, if you really want to
Speaker 1: fortify the offensive line, and if you look at the
Speaker 1: moves that have been made throughout the off season, it
Speaker 1: is about making sure that the quarterback has enough help.
Speaker 1: Will you help him by being able to bring another
Speaker 1: big body that really creates a fortress but also allows
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to run the football? Always takes fresh sure
Speaker 1: off Trevor larn You know, if you go back a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and you redrafted the Quenton Nelson draft,
Speaker 1: if Quint Nelson were drafted number one overall, would you
Speaker 1: even think twice about it? Now? Absolutely not? And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that quantu is is at that level. But
Speaker 1: I think he's that kind of an athlete. He has
Speaker 1: that kind of power and obviously he's a very intelligent guy.
Speaker 1: Uh didn't he like accepted to Harvard. He's super super Mark. Ye,
Speaker 1: he's Asian. He's a guy who explain that to j P. So.
Speaker 1: So when you so, when you think about what he offers,
Speaker 1: I think it's a no braining because worst case, you
Speaker 1: can put him in right techn from my guard. You
Speaker 1: can move him around to make sure that it's right. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: when you think about how Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: he wanted with the best offensive line in football doing
Speaker 1: what they do control in the church. I love the
Speaker 1: way he's He's got a little nasty to him. He's
Speaker 1: got power, he's got finished and he's a six ft
Speaker 1: four guy. So if he were to play left tackle, okay,
Speaker 1: he would compare to the guy in Houston. If he
Speaker 1: were to play guard, okay, six four is considered a
Speaker 1: good size for guard, I mean so, and he would
Speaker 1: be an immediate starter without question. Wow, how about Evan Neil.
Speaker 1: He's out of the conversation, but this is I'd love
Speaker 1: to get Bucky's thoughts. On this. I know you guys
Speaker 1: have talked about it. From from my standpoint under, he's
Speaker 1: got all the measurables. Okay, he's been getting at times,
Speaker 1: he's been overweight and but uh, anyway, he's on the
Speaker 1: ground a lot, and I don't think he's a I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's as much of a good of
Speaker 1: an athlete as Cam Robinson. And the reason I say
Speaker 1: that is that, look, how many years did Cam Robinson
Speaker 1: started at left tackle at University of Alabama? It was
Speaker 1: multiple years, okay, and Neil was a one year guy.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to I mean, look, would you
Speaker 1: question Nick Saban and his ability to figure out who
Speaker 1: the best left left tackles are. I mean, when he's
Speaker 1: got a guy who's had to move around a little
Speaker 1: bit um And I'm not saying that that's the number
Speaker 1: one indicator, but just when you watch it on film,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's as athletic at times, but he's
Speaker 1: got great technique. I think there are two things in
Speaker 1: the comparison a Quanto and Neil. The technique. Neil is
Speaker 1: superior in technique, but in terms of physicality and nastiness,
Speaker 1: a Quanta plays the game in a way that it
Speaker 1: changes the way your entire offensive line does because Jeff,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to when you're in those rooms and you
Speaker 1: see people hitting and knocking people around, it makes other
Speaker 1: people want to kind of jump in, and it changes
Speaker 1: the tenor of your offense. And so a kwan who
Speaker 1: comes in and brings that, with the athleticism, with the
Speaker 1: other stuff that you can potentially be on the inside.
Speaker 1: And that's not saying that Neil isn't worthy of being
Speaker 1: in the conversation. But if you have a preference, the
Speaker 1: NC state key gives you that nastiness that you have
Speaker 1: to have, particularly in a rugged a f C. If
Speaker 1: you if you look at the numbers, the measurables, you know,
Speaker 1: the combine height, weight, speed, all that kind of stuff. Size,
Speaker 1: don't forget hand size, I mean for quarterbacks, that's everything right.
Speaker 1: Neil would be your your your pick, I mean, because
Speaker 1: he's got that, you know, the height, weight and everything
Speaker 1: looks perfect. Whereas Iky's a little bit smaller, not quite
Speaker 1: as heavy. And in today's game, a lot of guys
Speaker 1: and general managers are caught up about size. We are
Speaker 1: at the two douval draft party presented by a Baptist South.
Speaker 1: It's tonight at six o'clock at Daily's Place. Live drafting
Speaker 1: houses and on stage appearances by head coach Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: and selects Jaguars players. More info Jaguars dot Com, slash
Speaker 1: Official Draft Party. Parking will be a bit tricky tonight.
Speaker 1: There's an RV show in lot Ja. I think there's
Speaker 1: an Iceman Hockey game tonight. So if you're coming down here,
Speaker 1: come on earlier. I will tell people this. Just follow
Speaker 1: the signs. It's it's very well explained when you're coming
Speaker 1: in the car. I was coming in the car, and
Speaker 1: then there's plenty of signs to indicate where you need
Speaker 1: to park. Gates open at five o'clock. Up next, more
Speaker 1: draft talk Defensive prospects at number one. It's Jaguar's Happy
Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Absolutely, you could, because
Speaker 1: if you're investing in Trevor Lawrence, you better invested people
Speaker 1: who are gonna keep them up, right. Absolutely, But you know,
Speaker 1: I think you still got Jawan Taylor there, right, So
Speaker 1: you just invested in him a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: as a second rounder who we all thought was going
Speaker 1: to be a shrounder. So you think to yourself, what's
Speaker 1: the next move. That's why it feels like pass rusher.
Speaker 1: But they did go offensive lineman, doesn't that sounds like
Speaker 1: where we started the whole process, And the whole process
Speaker 1: started with but which offensive line with Jacksonville take and
Speaker 1: then it morphed into the pass rusher. So that's why
Speaker 1: this year is so exciting for all of us because
Speaker 1: it may not be the five quarterbacks of last year,
Speaker 1: but the uncertainty breads the excitement of this year. Charles
Speaker 1: Davis of NFL Network and CBS Sports in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: with Brian Sexton and welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour
Speaker 1: from Daily's Place, home of the dou vol Draft party.
Speaker 1: Coming up six o'clock. The festivities begin, eight o'clock the
Speaker 1: draft begins. Will be here all night long. Good to
Speaker 1: hear from our good friend Charles Davis there talking offensive line.
Speaker 1: But then that shifts us over. We've already talked about
Speaker 1: the two big names. Let's shift back over to defense.
Speaker 1: And can I real quick in a comment in there,
Speaker 1: because because that Jowan Taylor thing, we talked about Taylor
Speaker 1: there tackle last time I checked that there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some competition. That's right at right tackle walker little as
Speaker 1: there should be competition, said that, Bucky, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a competition, But you know, does the person who come
Speaker 1: in join that competition. If it's an offensive linement, we
Speaker 1: should be the goal should be to put the five
Speaker 1: best offensive linement on the field and figure out the matchups.
Speaker 1: That's what you go through mini camps and training camp
Speaker 1: in audit. You start mixing up the combinations because it's
Speaker 1: a chemistry thing with the offensive line. But do you
Speaker 1: wanna tell you the walking a little wouldn't discourage me
Speaker 1: for taking it off as deafens up the board. Let's
Speaker 1: move along now to some of the potential options on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football and begin with Aidan
Speaker 1: Hutchinson out of the University of Michigan fourteen sacks a
Speaker 1: year ago. Broke his leg early in the season but
Speaker 1: came back. He was a Heisman runner up last year,
Speaker 1: the defensive player of the Year in the Big Ten, well,
Speaker 1: unanimous All American. The accolades go on and on and on. Bucky,
Speaker 1: you're all about this guy, and it's not just height
Speaker 1: and wait, it's everything that goes with him on the field.
Speaker 1: So at the top of the or Typically what you're
Speaker 1: looking for is a guy with blue chip talent and
Speaker 1: a blue color mentality. And when you talk to the
Speaker 1: people around the program in Michigan, they can't say enough
Speaker 1: good things about how he goes about his business working.
Speaker 1: Talking to his teammate David Dajabo, he said, everything that
Speaker 1: I learned about playing at a high level came from
Speaker 1: watching Aidan Hutchinson and being with him. And so when
Speaker 1: you think about a culture change or someone that's more
Speaker 1: to set the tone, this is what he does. Outside
Speaker 1: of being a really good player, the football character is outstanding.
Speaker 1: And at the top of the board, we're talking about
Speaker 1: getting someone that you know exactly what you're getting. There's
Speaker 1: some certainty with Aidan Hutchinson that I liken that I
Speaker 1: believe it character, productivity. He's athletic, but he's got arms
Speaker 1: that are short. That's what he got short like a man.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have that short arms. The time you watch
Speaker 1: your play football, he's really good and uh and on
Speaker 1: top of that, what you talk about about how he
Speaker 1: has that that that kind of dry and that he
Speaker 1: teaches teammates. When you watch him on film, he plays
Speaker 1: every down. He's not a guy that turns it on
Speaker 1: when he's a pass rusher. Okay, he's a guy that
Speaker 1: plays the rundowns just as hard he and then he
Speaker 1: plays him just as good. He's stout. He can stuff
Speaker 1: guys in the hole, he can get around guys. Is
Speaker 1: he a super freak athletic guy like a Miles Garrett. No, okay,
Speaker 1: he's not that. But the productivity, the measurables, and everything
Speaker 1: else to me, says number one pick overall. And I
Speaker 1: think you feel him like heaven't watched him up close
Speaker 1: in person at the Big Ten Championship game. I felt
Speaker 1: his presence like it was very clear and fair. In
Speaker 1: the big game, he turned it up and nuts, he
Speaker 1: made plays. And I know people would talk about the
Speaker 1: Georgia game and they said, well, the first exposure that
Speaker 1: a lot of people had to him was watching him
Speaker 1: in the college football playoff and Georgia seeming to be
Speaker 1: handled it. But if you watched how Georgia played, they
Speaker 1: didn't go at him. The ball was out quick. They
Speaker 1: made sure they took care of him because he was
Speaker 1: the most impactful player for Michigan. I think this guy's
Speaker 1: a slam duck. Has a number one pick to me
Speaker 1: he should be the pit. Hey. By the way, from
Speaker 1: a scouting standpoint, what's short on the t rex I
Speaker 1: was like a thirty seven and a half thirty eight
Speaker 1: in sleeve. Like someone is this guy got those listening
Speaker 1: on radio? He's demonstrating the same time, fantastic You mentioned Georgia.
Speaker 1: They had a fantastic defense and national champions and a
Speaker 1: name going up a lot of my draft the last
Speaker 1: month or so, at least since the combine, especially his
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, defensive lineman six, five seventy played the most
Speaker 1: snaps on the defensive line for Georgia last year. He
Speaker 1: was moving all around. But Bucky, this guy's moving up
Speaker 1: boards after the combine. Yeah, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people that are fascinating, and it started right at the
Speaker 1: combine because people had a chance to see him and
Speaker 1: watch him go to work. And he's a very impressive athlete,
Speaker 1: super explosive. You see the movie skills, the change of direction,
Speaker 1: all of those things. And then when you think about
Speaker 1: this defensive line, he played the most snaps. He was
Speaker 1: all over the place. The only thing that bothers me
Speaker 1: about Walker is is a projection over the production. The
Speaker 1: other pass rushers that we're talking about. We see guys
Speaker 1: get the quarterback down, and the one thing that translates
Speaker 1: sack production. If you sack him in high school, you
Speaker 1: sack him in college, you go sack him in the pros.
Speaker 1: And I just don't know if you can say someone
Speaker 1: who got six secs his final season is going to
Speaker 1: be a double digit second artist and the pros, it's
Speaker 1: uncommon to see that kind of jumping because you're you're
Speaker 1: not only facing a higher level of an athlete, but
Speaker 1: a more complex scheme. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: reasons why the adjustment is is big. And when you
Speaker 1: watch him, he's got some great tracks. Now he's big, strong, physical,
Speaker 1: he's got heavy hands. He does a great job of
Speaker 1: separating in the run game. Is a pass rusher though
Speaker 1: what Buckey's referring to with the six and a half shacks,
Speaker 1: his moves are very limited. He's still loves I don't
Speaker 1: want to say an amateur, but you can still tell
Speaker 1: that he's a developing pass rusher. Where you're watching Aiden Hutchinson,
Speaker 1: you can see kind of moves that are in play
Speaker 1: and get put to kind of execution wise, and that's
Speaker 1: I think there's a big difference there as far as
Speaker 1: the P word, and I'm not talking about the potential
Speaker 1: worst the production. Sometimes there was a guy who was
Speaker 1: a a scout that I used to know for a
Speaker 1: long period of time, and he said, the one thing
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful of is giving yourself a speeding
Speaker 1: ticket on a guy and getting excited about what you
Speaker 1: see when they're wearing shorts. And uh. And I think
Speaker 1: that that looks savon Walker. I think is a good
Speaker 1: football player. But what Bucky's talking about projecting a guy
Speaker 1: that sometimes can be interesting and and come sometimes flaw,
Speaker 1: you know. And we had this conversation a little bit earlier,
Speaker 1: and what's the perfect role for a Walker? I think
Speaker 1: a four or three left defensive end would be a
Speaker 1: perfect fit for him and this defense here. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's athletic enough to be a stand up
Speaker 1: outside linebacker guy, but he would be more of a
Speaker 1: defensive end guy. Then he could kick down to a
Speaker 1: free technique as a pass rusher. Somebody's got some flexibility.
Speaker 1: But is he gonna be that guy that's just gonna
Speaker 1: be lighting up defenses and scaring quarterbacks? Maybe, but I
Speaker 1: don't think right out of the gate, Dan, it may
Speaker 1: take a while. And the one reason production matters in
Speaker 1: terms of sack production, there's an art to knocking the
Speaker 1: quarterback down. It's one thing to get close to it
Speaker 1: and to touch him and didn't, but to get him
Speaker 1: to the ground. There's a talent to that. And I
Speaker 1: don't think you can under sail when a guy is
Speaker 1: unable to do it, because those who do they do it,
Speaker 1: and they do it year after year after year after year.
Speaker 1: And the one thing when you watch Walker on film,
Speaker 1: and Bucky will probably corroborate this, is that when he closes,
Speaker 1: that acceleration is instant. I mean, he's sure, you know.
Speaker 1: And in the difference I think when you look at
Speaker 1: Hutchinson and Walker, is is that Hutchinson I think plays
Speaker 1: with a little better instinct, a little better anticipation, whereas
Speaker 1: Walker is still this dominant, physical, strong guy, but not
Speaker 1: quite anticipating yet. And I think that's probably a factor
Speaker 1: in the production. But could he be that guy? Could be?
Speaker 1: I think at his high end, he plays like a
Speaker 1: disruptive run defender like Jadevion clown Jadevion Clowney has never
Speaker 1: been able to give you double digit sacks I think
Speaker 1: maybe until this year, but he was very disruptive against
Speaker 1: the run, and so he would create a lot of
Speaker 1: negative plays. TfL's force phone was in those things because
Speaker 1: of the athleticism and the explosiveness. But it's different. It's
Speaker 1: not what you typically would associate with a number one
Speaker 1: overall pick. But he's not as athletic as he's high end.
Speaker 1: That is what you hope for. One more name. You know,
Speaker 1: they said they were down to four this past Friday.
Speaker 1: But one name that was mocked the Jaguars a lot
Speaker 1: going into the off season, early in the offseason was
Speaker 1: Cabon Thibodeaux. We haven't heard that name pop up. Why
Speaker 1: do you think that name slipped out of a lot
Speaker 1: of these mocks. So, I think there a couple of
Speaker 1: things with Cavon Tipodeaux that rubs people the wrong way. Hi.
Speaker 1: When you turn him to take he is what we
Speaker 1: call a flash it. When he goes, it's impressive. But
Speaker 1: there are a lot of laws where he doesn't go,
Speaker 1: and so you're wondering is he gonna play hard all
Speaker 1: the time and a lot of times what you don't
Speaker 1: know is how is he going to change when the
Speaker 1: fame that a claim and the money and all that
Speaker 1: other stuff comes, are you gonna be able to get
Speaker 1: him to turn it up? Now? To his credit, I
Speaker 1: don't know if he was coached hard at Oregon to
Speaker 1: learn how to run and play and go to the
Speaker 1: ball in those things. But what I will say his
Speaker 1: first step quickness is outstanding. Snap count anticipation. He has it.
Speaker 1: He has a natural bend to him that's going to
Speaker 1: allow him to get sacks to the quarterback. He also
Speaker 1: does a good job of taking guys right down the
Speaker 1: middle with a long arm. But the one thing that
Speaker 1: you worry about is does he love it enough to
Speaker 1: go from good to great as a pro? That is
Speaker 1: the question and concern that you would have that that
Speaker 1: long arm kind of like a Rickey Jackson back in
Speaker 1: the day of the Saints. But when you talk about Ben,
Speaker 1: this guy's got Ben. Now I'm talking if you compared
Speaker 1: his athleticism to a Walker or Hutchinson, I think Thibodeau
Speaker 1: is a better athlete than all of them. It's it's
Speaker 1: different because it's funny because the numbers the other guy's
Speaker 1: test better. But on the field, they're only handful of
Speaker 1: guys that can turn the corn and those three steps
Speaker 1: like he he has it and so if he decides
Speaker 1: that he wants to be great, he'll be a great
Speaker 1: player off the ends. You know, there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things that guys are doing what they do on
Speaker 1: a football field that shows athleticism. It's how low that
Speaker 1: they can be to the ground and still be in control.
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that has that athletic ability.
Speaker 1: He can turn his foot it was like one foot
Speaker 1: towards the quarterback and when he plants that, he's turning
Speaker 1: and going that direction like a running back has the
Speaker 1: great ability to plan a foot and then and make
Speaker 1: that cut downhill. It's kind of the same thing, but
Speaker 1: a little different with a pass rushing who's the best
Speaker 1: in the game right now? With Ben been doing that?
Speaker 1: Von or back back when Von was in his prime,
Speaker 1: Von Von is not. His legs are getting a little
Speaker 1: bit old. Uh Um. I think it's Miles Garrett. Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett has freaky athleticism anything, anything, and you can't come
Speaker 1: you can. He is like he's the athlete up here. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody else lives down here in this neighborhood, but he's
Speaker 1: up here. And I think Jeffrey take when he came out,
Speaker 1: he wasn't a refined technically. He's getting ten sexs just off,
Speaker 1: I'm a better athlete than you. Almost turn the corner
Speaker 1: and go hit the court. Now he's learning both. No,
Speaker 1: that's scary now for sure. The Jaguars are future focused
Speaker 1: and ready for a new look in to join us
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Speaker 1: six three three two thousand. What to expect the rest
Speaker 1: of tonight after number one? Maybe the unexpectedness. We'll discuss
Speaker 1: it when we come back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. You know, you can make the
Speaker 1: case for Walker on fit as well, you know, And
Speaker 1: I look at Caldwell scheme and being there Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: and think about JPP and the success he had. You know,
Speaker 1: you could you could make that match there with Walker.
Speaker 1: I think you know, Hutchinson gett a chance to rush
Speaker 1: from a two point stance, there would would be pretty
Speaker 1: dynamic as well. Um So, I mean it's it's what
Speaker 1: you know right now with Hutchinson. I think he comes
Speaker 1: in clear packaging. I think there's some unknown uh there
Speaker 1: with Walker, But I think that we sell Hutchinson's short
Speaker 1: on the ceiling, and I feel like we sell Walker
Speaker 1: a little short on the floor. I think they're they're
Speaker 1: they're both gonna be really good football players. Let's lead
Speaker 1: draft analysts for NFL Network, Daniel Jeremiah in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: with Brian Sexton, and we are at Daily's Place for
Speaker 1: the doll Draft party. Gates open at five o'clock. The
Speaker 1: festivities underway at six o'clock. That you draft underway at
Speaker 1: eight o'clock. JP, Shadrick, Jeff Lagam, and Bucky Brooks with
Speaker 1: us from the next Yeah, who's that Jeremiah guy? We got?
Speaker 1: We got Bucky that he's the lead, he's a leader,
Speaker 1: he's at the network. Well, we're glad to have you
Speaker 1: here with us. I know that that's for sure. No
Speaker 1: matter what he's doing, it's awesome. No, that's great. This
Speaker 1: is great. This is great. First time I've been in
Speaker 1: a long time with the team on draft night and drafted.
Speaker 1: The energy should be fun to be around it all
Speaker 1: over a year. Is there anything better than talking ball
Speaker 1: and talking home. I mean, unfortunately, that's really where this
Speaker 1: team has been after the last couple of years, and
Speaker 1: that's the only thing they've had to hold on to.
Speaker 1: His home, and that's the draft has always represented home,
Speaker 1: and this is a franchise that helps it. Some of
Speaker 1: the picks that they make today can change the fortunes.
Speaker 1: And that's why the fans I think, are extremely excited
Speaker 1: about him. It should be excited. I'm more excited about
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson coming over, like having played with him, having
Speaker 1: played with some of the guys that are on the
Speaker 1: coaching staff, just really excited about the professionalism, Like those
Speaker 1: guys haven't played. Those guys haven't been on the field.
Speaker 1: I just think it would be a for a dynamic,
Speaker 1: different scene in the path you think. I just saying
Speaker 1: the last year was kind of a train wreck. Maybe So.
Speaker 1: Jaguars inner today and there's NFL Draft with twelve picks
Speaker 1: on the docket, tied for the most in the National
Speaker 1: Football League. One today, three on the docket tomorrow, one
Speaker 1: of the second round, two in the third round, and
Speaker 1: then eight more on Saturday. How many of those do
Speaker 1: they actually pick? Do they make moves? Trader Trent, does
Speaker 1: he show up like he did in San Francisco. What
Speaker 1: happens here, guys, what do you think? Well? I mean,
Speaker 1: for me, I think this team moves up, and I
Speaker 1: think it would be wise too. And when I say
Speaker 1: move up from the first pick of the second round,
Speaker 1: which is the first pick of Day two, you've got
Speaker 1: four or six round picks to seven or two sevenths
Speaker 1: and then you'll also have a fifth round pick. For me,
Speaker 1: those picks, use them as much as you can to
Speaker 1: get find a way to get back into the first round.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of guys to pick from, I think,
Speaker 1: and and Bucky has a little bit better handle on
Speaker 1: the overall talent of the draft, but Lucky, there's two
Speaker 1: guys that I really like, one of them the center
Speaker 1: in Iowa. The other ones of pass Rusher Perdue, Okay
Speaker 1: linder Bomb and then George Carloftis. I think those are
Speaker 1: very interesting pick because ultimately you talk about Trader Trent,
Speaker 1: what you should do and what you are doing is
Speaker 1: you have a wish list that you want to come
Speaker 1: out of Draft weekend with these kinds of players, and
Speaker 1: so if you think about packaging, so let's just say
Speaker 1: we go with a pass rusher at one, then you
Speaker 1: want to come back in the second round and maybe
Speaker 1: you get an offensive linement, So then Linderbaum would be
Speaker 1: in that conversation at thirty three. It makes at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you're like, Okay, we feel good
Speaker 1: about where we are. And then I still believe they
Speaker 1: need a speed receiver somewhere in this draft, someone that
Speaker 1: can take the top off the defense to kind of
Speaker 1: spread it out from Marvin Jones and Christie Kirk and
Speaker 1: z Jones and those guys to do work. And so
Speaker 1: it's where do I need to get to to get
Speaker 1: one of the best in those positions, and so trading
Speaker 1: up getting rid of those six and sevens to move
Speaker 1: into range to get players that can come in and
Speaker 1: be immediate contributors. That has to be the folks in emphasis.
Speaker 1: I just don't think you have enough roster spots for
Speaker 1: all of these picks that we're talking about if they
Speaker 1: stay put, to be able to make this roster, whether
Speaker 1: it be on practice squad or the active roster. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a tremendous amount of players. And then you look
Speaker 1: at the large free agency class that they brought in
Speaker 1: with some of the existing recent draft picks that you're
Speaker 1: hoping to develop. I mean, I think you've got to
Speaker 1: end up turning some of those picks into fewer picks,
Speaker 1: but higher ones players over picks, meaning blue chip players,
Speaker 1: players that can come in and contribute. And to your point,
Speaker 1: George got loftis underrated throughout the process. He's a power rusher,
Speaker 1: and I think when we talk about athleticism, the fact
Speaker 1: that he was on the Greek national team as a
Speaker 1: water polo player, to me, speaks volumes about who he is.
Speaker 1: New to the game, still learning the game. But man,
Speaker 1: he's a powerful players. The little attitude, he has some
Speaker 1: stuff to him. He's got a lot of stuff to him.
Speaker 1: He's really young. But but athletically, you know, we're talking
Speaker 1: earlier about the bend uh and and to get off
Speaker 1: and all the things that are key to a pass rush.
Speaker 1: The they call him the Greek freak. How to perdue
Speaker 1: this guy? He has, He's got some tools. How different
Speaker 1: is it? Then let's say, Hutchinson, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't I don't you know here, I think this is
Speaker 1: an interesting ban And I said this to somebody. I
Speaker 1: would not be surprised if Karl Laptus is a guy
Speaker 1: that could end up having as many sacks as a
Speaker 1: Hutchinson could. Yeah, I mean, but he understands the artistry
Speaker 1: he played. Sorry, you gotta understand where he played at Perdue.
Speaker 1: There's been a number of pass Russince that's come out
Speaker 1: of there. He is up there at the top of
Speaker 1: the list when it comes to production and disruption and
Speaker 1: all those things. He's a really good player. He might
Speaker 1: fall out. He's god at the bottom of the first round,
Speaker 1: bottom of the first round, top of second death where
Speaker 1: he goes. Sometimes you gotta think about doubling up at
Speaker 1: the position. There's nothing wrong with doubling up. If you
Speaker 1: want to address the need, go twice. Make sure you
Speaker 1: addressed by getting multiple Have you ever not a team
Speaker 1: that had too many pass rushers? You can't have right now?
Speaker 1: And as here's the thing, if you end up going
Speaker 1: Walker at one, okay, Walker is a is a three
Speaker 1: technique pass rusher once you get the sub package Nicola
Speaker 1: and don uh so I think he is. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now you need a guy around
Speaker 1: the edge and the game in the game, we're gonna
Speaker 1: be a nickel. So you have to treat it like that.
Speaker 1: Make sure, you gotta you gotta roll him in. You
Speaker 1: can't have enough it used to be. The game has changed.
Speaker 1: It's a passing league, pinball football. You better score because
Speaker 1: they're going to on the other side. Speaking of that,
Speaker 1: let's shift our conversation out of the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1: You mentioned a deep guy, deep threat. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: who are some of those guys that could be available
Speaker 1: lower first into the second round. Guys like Jamison Williams
Speaker 1: might be out, a lobby might be gone. Garrett Wilson
Speaker 1: Ohio State probably gone. What's that next level of guy? Well,
Speaker 1: next series? Great. So you can see a bunch of
Speaker 1: wide receivers throughout this draft that can make an immediate
Speaker 1: impact in terms of roll specific guys for the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Talking on Thornton from Baylor is somewhere for to eight
Speaker 1: at the combat but he's a lieutenant track star going
Speaker 1: all the way back. Big top speed can take the
Speaker 1: top off the defense, off the coverage. Then, did Jaguars
Speaker 1: need that explosive playmaker? Jaden Tilbert from South Alabama another guy,
Speaker 1: a speaster that can take the top offer of coverage.
Speaker 1: If you want someone that is more of the route
Speaker 1: runner type, Khalio, secure guy from wen Go, Boise State.
Speaker 1: Another route runner that can do it. Different smaller guys
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin, but t tiny five seven. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you want that, but there's plenty of guys in
Speaker 1: the second, third round, even top of the fourth round
Speaker 1: they can make contribution as a speed received if the
Speaker 1: guys five sevens, he better run like Tyreek Hill. He runs,
Speaker 1: but he's smaller. He's smaller, but he had to miss
Speaker 1: him because he's fast. But a little a little self
Speaker 1: evaluation here with the Jaguars, you have a lot of
Speaker 1: guys because uh literally with Laviscous Chanal and then Christian Kirk,
Speaker 1: these guys are I think, are more suited to the
Speaker 1: inside receiving positions. The one thing that you don't have,
Speaker 1: and Marvin Jones isn't even one of these guys. You
Speaker 1: don't have a guy that you can line up on
Speaker 1: the outside and go. That's what you don't have. And
Speaker 1: so if you are gonna find a wide receiver in
Speaker 1: this draft, you better have a guy that's gonna go shoot, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, who means really fast, really bad? But
Speaker 1: what but what Larns is talking about is the way
Speaker 1: that we think about the wide receiver room. It needs
Speaker 1: to be a basketball team. You gotta have guys with
Speaker 1: different tools, sizes, shapes, left speed. You want to be
Speaker 1: able to throw different things out there. And I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised to also see another tight end find this
Speaker 1: way here based on the way that Doug likes to
Speaker 1: play twelve personnel two tight ends on the field, because
Speaker 1: you can dictate so many things in the run game
Speaker 1: and the passing game with those guys into me. Evan
Speaker 1: Ingram is a jumbo slot receiver. We may have him
Speaker 1: listed he run out the tunnel with tight end, but
Speaker 1: he's a jumbo slot I mean really, And here's how
Speaker 1: you know that when when you watch him play, you
Speaker 1: look at how defensive coordinators play him. Defensive coordinators played
Speaker 1: him as a wide receiver all year. What you would
Speaker 1: like to have is a tight end that the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator is in a little bit of a quandary, how
Speaker 1: do we treat him? Well? The Kelsey's uh and the
Speaker 1: Gronx Okay of the league, they create legitimate matchup problems
Speaker 1: because if you put a small guy on him, he'll
Speaker 1: block and and all of a sudden, now you're out
Speaker 1: the gate and with the running games, and okay, that's
Speaker 1: the one thing that Evan Ingram is not. He's not
Speaker 1: a guy that can really block as a big man
Speaker 1: and then catch the ball. So I'm like he's talking
Speaker 1: about buck, He's talking about don't be surprised if this
Speaker 1: team finds a tight end, and if they do, it'll
Speaker 1: be a guy that has the ability to do both
Speaker 1: and to do both well block in catch. Where do
Speaker 1: they find that. Tray McBride would be one. Tray McBride
Speaker 1: from Colorado State is the best one in the class,
Speaker 1: but he is someone second round ish that can do it.
Speaker 1: He's a guy that was a three spots standout in
Speaker 1: high school because from Colorado State called a lot of
Speaker 1: pass but looking him block on the edges. Greg Dotches
Speaker 1: from u C l A walk on made his way
Speaker 1: into a big time receiver and playmaker formal receiver, but
Speaker 1: he can get gritty there. I just think it's really
Speaker 1: important we're seeing tight ends in importance of controlling the
Speaker 1: middle of the field making life easy for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: More tight end is more big bodies, more guys that
Speaker 1: can do a bunts of different things. I would be
Speaker 1: a little surprised if they did go tight end just
Speaker 1: because you know, you you got a guy in free
Speaker 1: agency last year that you feel really good about as
Speaker 1: a blocker, and then you traded for a guy with
Speaker 1: Dan Arnold, and now you got Evan Ingram. You got
Speaker 1: two receiving guys and an inline guy. So I I
Speaker 1: know the draft. You you gotta do what they call
Speaker 1: trust your board, okay, and you're picking the guys that
Speaker 1: are had the highest grade, but sometimes sometimes the need
Speaker 1: just kind of pulls your way into another position. Group.
Speaker 1: Going back to the start of our conversation here, don't
Speaker 1: turn off the television after number one, right, they could
Speaker 1: jump back into night. Yeah, I would, I would think
Speaker 1: because if there's it in a prime spot, one in
Speaker 1: the top of the second round, So there's gonna be
Speaker 1: interest for the Jaguars one way deal either interesting coming
Speaker 1: up into the first round or everyone was the first
Speaker 1: big because there's going to be a name or two
Speaker 1: that surprisedly falls out of the first round that people
Speaker 1: are coming to wanting to get to. So it's a
Speaker 1: nice spot for Trent Bak. He has to make a
Speaker 1: decision if there's someone that he identifies that I want
Speaker 1: to go get or do I want to play it conservative,
Speaker 1: back out lit some more picks and go get Well,
Speaker 1: I think there's gotta be somebody that they really like
Speaker 1: for them to trade up with that pick, because that
Speaker 1: pick has value. What we'll with what is called the
Speaker 1: overnight factor. You know, if you still have that pick,
Speaker 1: you get to feel calls from thirty one teams from
Speaker 1: the end of the draft tonight until the draft starts
Speaker 1: tomorrow about somebody offering you picks to come out of
Speaker 1: that spot. So I think that's a very interesting situation
Speaker 1: to be in. But the number of picks that they have,
Speaker 1: and I think what we're talking about was if you've
Speaker 1: got a guy, go up and get them. Trader Trent
Speaker 1: getting ready. We heard from earlier here on jaguar Is
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. We're back in a moment with a look
Speaker 1: around the National Football League the NFL Draft in Lons Vegas, Nevada.
Speaker 1: In two Bryan Sexton is out there for us on
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. You'll see some of his interviews coming up.
Speaker 1: But he said it is built for the NFL Draft
Speaker 1: was built for a lot of things, but the draft
Speaker 1: fits in well. In Las Vegas, the Jaguars had the
Speaker 1: number one pick. We're back to close out Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: the Football Performance Centered construction site the side of the
Speaker 1: old practice fields, the side of old Wolfson Park. Well,
Speaker 1: it's now going to be the site for the new
Speaker 1: building for the Jaguars football operations and it should be
Speaker 1: open and ready in the twenty three training camps. Is
Speaker 1: that a pool that they're digging in on the left side,
Speaker 1: It does look a little up. Yeah, yeah, that are
Speaker 1: a fishing pond. Wouldn't that be a fishing pond? Really,
Speaker 1: that's what we need around here, some more of those,
Speaker 1: perfect more yet, so that's to be open little bit.
Speaker 1: We see the construction every single day and just one
Speaker 1: of a few things going on here in the sports complex. Tonight,
Speaker 1: RV show logs, the Iceman have a playoff game tonight.
Speaker 1: They have guns and Roses in concert. Apparently behind us,
Speaker 1: Axel Rose is getting allowed the roar of the Jaguar
Speaker 1: is going through their their warm ups to get ready
Speaker 1: for tonight's show here at Daily's Place. Hey, inside the
Speaker 1: stadium since the practice fields are gone, the Jaguars are
Speaker 1: having volunteering veteran mini camp on the game field now inside,
Speaker 1: so the first chance for coaches to be on the
Speaker 1: field with players. They're doing some minor things, throwing the
Speaker 1: ball around a little bit, logs. Good thing. Yeah, pretty
Speaker 1: pretty neat too, and that you know, for this stadium
Speaker 1: typically has kind of like a gravel border around the
Speaker 1: outside eid of it, and they completely changed the field
Speaker 1: out its grasp completely from wall to wall on the
Speaker 1: plane field to maximize the ability of square inches as
Speaker 1: far as grass for the plays. At some point they're
Speaker 1: gonna start going across the river to Episcoper to use
Speaker 1: their fields. But for the moment, for some of this
Speaker 1: all season stuff, uh, they're doing it right here in
Speaker 1: the stadio. Nice nice little practice field because that surface
Speaker 1: there is unbelievable, real nice. It looks nice. It looks
Speaker 1: nice to be able to do it and wising them
Speaker 1: practice in the stating. It's a nice feel to being
Speaker 1: ever going there and do it. I know. It has
Speaker 1: to be nice for the players to finally get back
Speaker 1: to active with a new coaching staff kind of put
Speaker 1: some of the things they've seen it on the board
Speaker 1: to put him into player on the ground. It's early
Speaker 1: in that process, so I mean, right, I mean, we
Speaker 1: just started. It's kind of interesting that you hear different
Speaker 1: comments from around the league about teams getting back on
Speaker 1: the grass and from Russell Wilson claiming to have you know,
Speaker 1: the great players that he's working with, and and Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan having some great receivers in Indianapolis. You know, every
Speaker 1: team in April feels really good about where they are,
Speaker 1: really good. You'ren want to be like, oh, we're gonna
Speaker 1: stink this year. We know it. In May, like we
Speaker 1: can't say that we can't sit in the draft is
Speaker 1: when the optimism really is because now you've got new players,
Speaker 1: new energy, everyone's in the building the offseason, proach, undefeated.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a chance to Yes, thank you for that
Speaker 1: right there, knocking on the door. Let's go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League a few notes and the news and
Speaker 1: notes from around the league reports that the Raiders were
Speaker 1: looking to trade tight end Darren Waller. Waller was on
Speaker 1: CBS Sports Radio this week said the team told him
Speaker 1: a trade is not going to happen. Why in the
Speaker 1: world would they trade him away? By Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: room of going bad. You don't go in acquire Davante
Speaker 1: Adams to go with Hunter Renfro, signed Derek Carter and
Speaker 1: extended to then remove an Alfro weapon. No, he's going
Speaker 1: to be He's gonna be there for he he is, uh,
Speaker 1: I mean really arguably the second best tight end in football.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's unbelievable and I don't think that he's
Speaker 1: reached his ceiling yet. That is totally false. Whoever came
Speaker 1: out with that rumor that he was gonna be traded,
Speaker 1: Raiders are not gonna get rid of him. Who's the
Speaker 1: number one tight end? Kelsey Kelsey, number one George Kittle,
Speaker 1: Let's say it was Kittling is good, okay, but Kittle's
Speaker 1: not the receiver that Kelsey and Kelsey. For a long time,
Speaker 1: I used to kind of question some of his blocking,
Speaker 1: but he's actually done a pretty good job and he's willing. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's a little feisty. But Darren Waller is just you know,
Speaker 1: when you talk about freakish ability, I mean in the
Speaker 1: ability to run in length and catch radius. Uh, wow,
Speaker 1: he's got it all. Fifth year option week apparently. Of course,
Speaker 1: we mentioned Josh Allen got the fifth year option with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Christian Wilkins got it with the Dolphins, Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray with the Cardinals. Well, Daniel Jones apparently not getting
Speaker 1: it with the New York Football Giants. How about that, Buck, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Danny Dives didn't get a fifth year option, but you
Speaker 1: kind of expected that based on the injuries, the number
Speaker 1: of turnovers. New coaching staff. You don't want necessarily lock
Speaker 1: yourself in because then you do it, you don't like him.
Speaker 1: You have a Sam Donald situation like you had in
Speaker 1: New York. So what you wanna do is, hey, if
Speaker 1: Danny Darris plays well, they'll give him his money. But
Speaker 1: he has to play well. He's not worth it right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the fact that's you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: the reality is is that he hasn't proven to be
Speaker 1: a great quarterback, and then until he does, you know, teams,
Speaker 1: teams aren't gonna just throw out the fifth year option
Speaker 1: at guys unless there's a lot of high productivity, especially
Speaker 1: at that quarterback position. Because the Giants have some amo
Speaker 1: in the future to be able to take a serious
Speaker 1: run out a quarterback in future draft class, not this one,
Speaker 1: but in the future. Let's wrap up this Jaguars Happy
Speaker 1: our program j P Shadrick, Bucky Brooks and Jeff Flagman.
Speaker 1: You know how quickly things can change when you're talking
Speaker 1: NFL Draft last May. If you're into the odds of
Speaker 1: number one picks and what way you're could go number one,
Speaker 1: some of these sports books started putting out their odds
Speaker 1: well last May. One of them were the initial odds
Speaker 1: they put out in May of last year for the
Speaker 1: number one picked. This year, here's the order they had
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler, quarterback Sam how cornerback Cavon Thibodeau, Derek Stingley Jr.
Speaker 1: Tetan Slova's from sc the quarterback Malique Willis, d G Daniels,
Speaker 1: Emery Jones. I mean, the list goes on, it changes,
Speaker 1: off seasons happened, a full college season happens, and then
Speaker 1: you never know. And of course tonight the Jaguar has
Speaker 1: had the number one overall pick logs. I'll start with
Speaker 1: you what happens at number one overall? That I Ade Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's who they picked. And I might
Speaker 1: be wrong, and uh if if I was in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I might lose some money, but that's who I picked.
Speaker 1: I mean, if I really don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: But if I were making the pick, it would be
Speaker 1: hard not to pick Hutchinson, and it would also be
Speaker 1: very difficult to take the quarters, right. I think I
Speaker 1: usually pick one. I know, but I like both of
Speaker 1: those guys, and I want to trade back in and
Speaker 1: get the second and third overall pick for the first
Speaker 1: sounds like Urban last year. I want to trade it
Speaker 1: to get cow picks. Wait a minute, he wasn't well.
Speaker 1: I did a deep die j p and uh. I
Speaker 1: think we can get the value for that pick. I
Speaker 1: like Hudsonson at number one. I'm still in my guts.
Speaker 1: Something that's telling me that tradebault Walker is going to
Speaker 1: end up being the pick. Maybe it's the Balky think,
Speaker 1: maybe it's the history then he had with all this.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it's hard to get out of guests
Speaker 1: a year in your own mind. But traybauld Walker a Hudson,
Speaker 1: I believe it's going to be one of the past.
Speaker 1: Question and not the office and taunt. You're done with
Speaker 1: the offensive tack. I mean, I would like you, but
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking I don't have him pick, but if
Speaker 1: I did, it would be a Hudson because I believe
Speaker 1: he's the safest here. Here's the thing, and I think
Speaker 1: I was. I was posed a question on an interview
Speaker 1: that we did or I did earlier today with with
Speaker 1: with a group out on Ask and they said, you
Speaker 1: know you are you a believer? They used to golf analogy,
Speaker 1: do you like hitting it down the center of the
Speaker 1: fairway or do you like to swing big. I'm a
Speaker 1: believer in hitting it down the fairway because sometimes when
Speaker 1: you just try to hit it down the fairway, sometimes
Speaker 1: it ends up being big because I think, and I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be safe, but I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: you know, you trust your eyes and productivity and uh
Speaker 1: to me in the film says a lot. And it's
Speaker 1: hard to argue against the productivity in the film of
Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson. And then you throw in the football character,
Speaker 1: because the character really really matters. The guy really loves ball,
Speaker 1: he's a great teammate, He's done everything that you want
Speaker 1: to see from a work ethic standpoint throughout the time
Speaker 1: in Michigan. He's going to continue to be the same
Speaker 1: guy here. I think it would really fit in well
Speaker 1: in this locker room. And and here's the thing. When
Speaker 1: you talk about locker room fit, you're trying to change
Speaker 1: the culture here, Okay, and this I think this is
Speaker 1: a guy that can help change a culture. But if
Speaker 1: they don't take Aidan Hutchinson, Detroit will go crazy. Detroit
Speaker 1: will absolutely crazy. And if they don't take Aidan Hutchinson
Speaker 1: here there will forever be a comparison if the Jaguars
Speaker 1: take Walker with Hutchinson. There you have it. The picks
Speaker 1: are in on Jaguars Happy Hour coming up. Our coverage
Speaker 1: continues on Jaguars dot Com at seven thirty. It's Draft
Speaker 1: Night in Duvall our pregame show. If you will for
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. We'll get you ready for the number
Speaker 1: one pick and beyond the Jaguars at number one. The
Speaker 1: Jags have twelve picks in this draft, at least going
Speaker 1: into today. We'll see how many they have after today.
Speaker 1: For Bucky Brooks, Jeff Logging, and our entire crew, I'm J. P. Shadrick.
Speaker 1: We'll see a little bit later here at Daily's Place.
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