1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: It's Thursday, April. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. And now 2 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: a guy who believes the best way to navigate a 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: draft is to wear a lovely cozy blue sweating j 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: P shack look him at a Jaguars happy hour on 5 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: this Thursday. It is Draft Nights in Duvau. My name's 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: jap Shadrick. Glad you're along with us. We're live at 7 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Daily's place, getting ready for the first round of the 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and we have a busy program to night 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: here on Tintin x l a M, Jaguars dot com 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: and the Jack's social channels Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Jaguars 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: analyst Jeff Blagman is always with us. NFL Network analyst 12 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks is on site with us throughout the draft. 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: We stole him away. He's here. We're gonna pick his 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: brain all weekend long with this half preview, and we 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: will hear from general manager Trent Bulky. We had a 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: draft day conversation in the Jaguars draft room at the 17 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: Bank a little bit earlier. Gentlemen, welcome in an happy 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Draft day live. Yeah, thank you, and it's great to 19 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: have Buckey alongside. We're gonna have a little bit of 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: conversation there about some draft picks. We're gonna get some 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: answers out of you guys, were about answers. We've been 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: picking Buckey Sprain for weeks on the Huddle Up podcast, 23 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: and now it comes down to the night. Now. I'm 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: really excited, man, It's really exciting. Time you have the 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. You have a chance to kind 26 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: of change the forces of the franchise if you get 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: the pick right. It's a lot of fresh did you 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: you guys remember a draft like this where you're just 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: you're going in and there's really not really a known 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: entity that's gonna be the first overall draft pick. I mean, 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: I say, going back to what the Baker Mayfield draft, 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: that's that's the last time you can think about that 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: where everyone was guessing on who was going to be 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: the number one, but no one real, no one really knows. 35 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: Normally by this time of the day, you gotta have 36 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: a sense it's kind of leaked out on Twitter. Who's 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: gonna be the guy. We haven't heard that yet, No leaking. Yeah, 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: I mean we're we'll hear from Balky coming up. I 39 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: think with you a little bit. No, No, he said 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: they were down to one, so they got that. That's good. 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: You didn't say which one. He wrote it down on 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: a piece of paper and gave it to JP later. 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: I don't even want to know. I'll be quite honest 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: with you. But let's hear from General Manager Trim Balky. 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: We caught up a little earlier today in the Jaguars 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: draft room here at t I A. Bank Field, his 47 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: second draft with the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're ready to make 48 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: a picko. NFL Draft is here. J P. Shadrick with 49 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: General Manager Trent Balky in the draft room at t 50 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: I A A bank Field. Are you excited? What's the 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: GM feel on draft day? Hopefully relief? You know, we're excited. 52 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of works gone into this. Scouting staff, 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: personnel staff, put in a lot of time and here 54 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: we are, you know, on the eve of the pick, 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: and uh, I think we're I know we're prepared for it. 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Take us through your checklist on draft day? What all 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: do you do? What's your routine? You've done this a 58 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: number of times obviously in San Francisco and now your 59 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: second time here. What's your checklist? Well, we had our 60 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: final meeting yesterday, you know, with ownership, and that went 61 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: extremely well. You know, now it's just waiting for the 62 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: eight o'clock to come here. You know usually what I 63 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: do now is I'll get away from it. I'll take 64 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: my run. I'm gonna go on a nice long run here, 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: get get my mind right, and then come back. Try 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: to be in the building around five o'clock and get 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: ready for eight o'clock. Tell us what you can about 68 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: that final meeting with ownership, shot con in, Doug Peterson, yourself, 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: what happens and how do you guys narrow it down? 70 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: You said you were down to four last week. How 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: do you get the number one? Well, we've been working 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: that way for for a while now. And you know, 73 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: when Shod got this all together, you talked about a 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: couple of things, but you know, a collaborative effort and transparency, 75 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: and yesterday's meeting was just to make sure that that 76 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: was exactly what was taking place. And uh, this has 77 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: been a very collaborative effort. There's been a lot of 78 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: people involved, from the personnel side, from the coaching side, 79 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 1: and even ownership, and that's the way it should be. 80 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: And we're just looking forward to the draft and making 81 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: the picks. How does this number one top of a 82 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: draft compared to some others in the past. To you, 83 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: it feels like, I don't know if you read mocks 84 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: or not. There's a lot of mocks out there, have 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: different names everywhere. It seemed a little abnormal. Usually there's 86 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: a slam dunk guy at number one. How different is 87 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: this year? I don't like to compare drafts. You live 88 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: in the moment and the moment we're in now. This 89 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: is this is the draft. These are the available players, 90 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: and you do everything you can to find the right 91 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: players for this organization, for your own organization, and then 92 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: you go to work and and and you make them right. 93 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: At what point do you make final calls to prospects, 94 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: wellness checks? Do you do anything like that on draft day? 95 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Is that all done? Have you put a bow in 96 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: this thing? Yeah? The draft, the skelet sets. What they've 97 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: been working on the early part of this week is 98 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: calling all the agents, calling all the prospects on the board, 99 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: making sure we verified their phone numbers and and that 100 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: they're healthy and ready to go. Finally, um, you know, 101 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: twelve picks over three days. I don't know if a 102 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: GM likes that or not. That's a lot to handle 103 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: over the next three days. But what is a successful 104 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: day for the Jaguars today at the end of the 105 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: day and a successful weekend meet, Well, I think you 106 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: just go into it. You never know what's gonna happen. 107 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: Obviously we know what's gonna happen at one, and then 108 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: from that point on you really don't know what's gonna happen. 109 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: So you follow the board, You trust the board. You 110 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: put yourself in a position to move up if you 111 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: feel you need to move up, and you put yourself 112 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: in a position when it when the board dictates to 113 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: move back if you can. But you always have to 114 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: be ready, ready and willing to make the pick because 115 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: you don't know if you can move up, and you 116 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: don't know if you can move back, so you're you 117 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: just you always have to be prepared. That's trimp Lucky 118 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars general manager a little bit earlier today, we think looks. 119 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: I think the comment that he made there at the 120 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: very end is very tellent that you move back if 121 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: you can, and I think that they would love to 122 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: move back from number one. But the problem is that 123 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: there's no clear cut number one. If there was then 124 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: this team will be in a perfect position to maybe 125 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: trade that pick if there was a quarterback sitting there, 126 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: and then get a hall of picks in the future 127 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: and now and then maybe get one of those top 128 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: four guys that you like. Yeah, it's all about the quarterback. Normally, 129 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: when you're moving up at someone that is a transcendent talent, 130 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: someone that multiple teams would love to get, and right 131 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: now you just don't have that interest because the quarterbacks 132 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: aren't what they've been in previous classes. So even though 133 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: Trends is like to talk about previous classes, is one 134 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: of the reasons why they hadn't been a lot of 135 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: trade interests. I think it was also interesting that he 136 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: talked about it. You you were talking about talking to 137 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: the prospects and etcetera. I remember when I was a 138 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: draft eligible player, Man, I the phone didn't stop ringing 139 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: the day before the draft and the day of the draft. 140 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: Do you happen to know why j P just to 141 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: make sure you're not in trouble, to make sure you 142 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: didn't get hit by a mack truck. Seriously, to make 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: sure you were still alive and healthy and you know, 144 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: ready to go, because seriously, they would call you up 145 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: and say, hey, how you doing, how you feeling everything okay? 146 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: And it was you were sitting there just you know, 147 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: thinking yourself out loud, going in there, just trying to 148 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: find out that I'm breathing. That's that's really it. As 149 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: a scout, your job, My job leading up to the 150 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 1: draft is to make sure I call everybody on the list, 151 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: make sure I get multiple numbers, their primary number, backup number, 152 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: see if they're healthier, stuff, because you want to make 153 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: sure when the pick goes in, you want to be 154 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: able to talk to him before you officially submit to pick. 155 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: About the thought of the meeting last night, Jaguar's owner 156 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: Shot con came in. I wanted to, as Trent Balky said, 157 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: see that collaborative and open effort together. And they've apparently 158 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: come down to one player they're gonna pick. Yeah, because 159 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: once the player is picked, he's a Jaguar and everybody 160 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: in the building has to support him and make sure 161 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: that he has given everything that he needs to be successful. 162 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: From a coaching standpoint, that's put him in the rights position. 163 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Make sure the scheme is conducive to his talents. From 164 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: a personnel standpoint, he once we own whoever we decided 165 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: to pick, we got to make sure that everything that 166 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: comes out of the building is positive about this pick. 167 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: In the process. I think that this is is just 168 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: uh kind of a sign because you know, there's been 169 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: collaborative meetings with ownership all along through this process. You know, 170 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: I think Sean Conn has spent more time in the 171 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: building this year than he has in recent years from 172 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: from what I understand. And so, look, the reality is 173 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: this final meeting. If if Shan Khan goes, hey, look 174 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: we're drafting player X. Guess which player they're drafting. They're 175 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: drafting player X. I mean he's the owner. He's the 176 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: one that can has the ultimate decision. We'll say that's 177 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: really never been his style though he kind of lets 178 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: the football people do football things. He can have obviously 179 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: has input when he wants to have input, but he's 180 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: never really been that, you know, we're picking this guy, 181 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: come hell or high water. No, I know, I don't 182 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: think he ever has. But I mean, at the end 183 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: of the day, I mean, when you have next year name, 184 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: you know, job description, it says, oh that gives you that. 185 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: I guess, so do you need another title? No? Just 186 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: owner is good enough. Yeah, Yeah, it's Jaguars Happy x 187 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: L A. M. And Jaguars dot Com, JP Shaddick, Jeff Loghum, 188 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks ahead of the NFL Draft. There is 189 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: mother football business going on today with the Jaguars. By 190 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: the way, Josh Allen received the fifth year option today. 191 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: The deadline was made second, So that's another year for 192 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: a former first round pick. And you know, it goes 193 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: to the what the organization has talked about you and 194 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: they haven't done a lot the last ten fifteen years, 195 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: is get your draft picks, keep them in the building 196 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: as long as you can, and then resigned them. The 197 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: resigning parts still to come for Allen, but the fifth 198 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: year option is big to kind of set the tone 199 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: I think on defense. It means from an internal standpoint 200 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: that they feel good enough about what he's put on 201 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: the first three years to say, Okay, we definitely want 202 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: to keep this marriage going into the fifth year and 203 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: possibly be beyond. We have seen in previous years sometimes 204 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 1: people are unable to get that fifth year option. So 205 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: that bowls well for Josh Allen getting a large term extension. 206 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: It also bowls well from the Jaguar standpoint that they 207 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: drafted a player at the top of the board who 208 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: has played up to the standard expectation that comes along 209 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: with being the first round pick. But the one the 210 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: one thing I will say with Josh from from a 211 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: negative stand point is that he has not been available 212 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: at times. That's right, Okay, So I think that kind 213 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: of maybe impacted the lateness of this decision because from 214 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: a talent standpoint, Josh Allen being you know, have that 215 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: fifth year picked up, that's a no brainer. But you 216 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: would like to see the consistency and production a little 217 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: bit more with Josh, and I think that that will come. 218 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: There's also been reports that Cam Robinson has agreed to 219 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: an extension three year deal fifty four million dollars. That's 220 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: the report, no official word from the team yet hasn't 221 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: signed the deal, but when he does, there you go, 222 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: does that change anything tonight for you? Well? I think 223 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: this is an interesting conversation here because Bucky, this not 224 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: only involves is the contract right for Cam Robinson? Okay, 225 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: you're happy with that number, but then it also kind 226 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: of ventures over to draft talk. Okay, now that Cam 227 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 1: Robinson has or reportedly has this three year extension, does 228 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: that prohibit the Jaguars from looking at the top two 229 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: rated offensive lineman and and I don't know exactly what 230 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: bucky S thoughts are on this, but I love the 231 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: guy in North Carolina State, Oh. I absolutely love him. 232 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: And I love what Douck has said about the number 233 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: one pick. We gotta get the number one pick right, 234 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: No more pick has to start. He has to be 235 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: a starter with the one thing that we know about 236 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Ikey Kuanu Ikey Kant is versatile enough to move inside 237 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: and play guard. So to me, I think it's a 238 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: no brain if he's available, if you really want to 239 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: fortify the offensive line, and if you look at the 240 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: moves that have been made throughout the off season, it 241 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: is about making sure that the quarterback has enough help. 242 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: Will you help him by being able to bring another 243 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: big body that really creates a fortress but also allows 244 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: the Jaguars to run the football? Always takes fresh sure 245 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: off Trevor larn You know, if you go back a 246 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: couple of years ago and you redrafted the Quenton Nelson draft, 247 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: if Quint Nelson were drafted number one overall, would you 248 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: even think twice about it? Now? Absolutely not? And I'm 249 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: not saying that quantu is is at that level. But 250 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 1: I think he's that kind of an athlete. He has 251 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: that kind of power and obviously he's a very intelligent guy. 252 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Uh didn't he like accepted to Harvard. He's super super Mark. Ye, 253 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: he's Asian. He's a guy who explain that to j P. So. 254 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: So when you so, when you think about what he offers, 255 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a no braining because worst case, you 256 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: can put him in right techn from my guard. You 257 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: can move him around to make sure that it's right. Ultimately, 258 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: when you think about how Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl, 259 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: he wanted with the best offensive line in football doing 260 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: what they do control in the church. I love the 261 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: way he's He's got a little nasty to him. He's 262 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: got power, he's got finished and he's a six ft 263 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: four guy. So if he were to play left tackle, okay, 264 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: he would compare to the guy in Houston. If he 265 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: were to play guard, okay, six four is considered a 266 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: good size for guard, I mean so, and he would 267 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: be an immediate starter without question. Wow, how about Evan Neil. 268 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: He's out of the conversation, but this is I'd love 269 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: to get Bucky's thoughts. On this. I know you guys 270 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: have talked about it. From from my standpoint under, he's 271 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: got all the measurables. Okay, he's been getting at times, 272 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: he's been overweight and but uh, anyway, he's on the 273 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: ground a lot, and I don't think he's a I 274 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: don't know if he's as much of a good of 275 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: an athlete as Cam Robinson. And the reason I say 276 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: that is that, look, how many years did Cam Robinson 277 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: started at left tackle at University of Alabama? It was 278 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: multiple years, okay, and Neil was a one year guy. 279 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to I mean, look, would you 280 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: question Nick Saban and his ability to figure out who 281 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: the best left left tackles are. I mean, when he's 282 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: got a guy who's had to move around a little 283 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: bit um And I'm not saying that that's the number 284 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: one indicator, but just when you watch it on film, 285 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he's as athletic at times, but he's 286 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: got great technique. I think there are two things in 287 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 1: the comparison a Quanto and Neil. The technique. Neil is 288 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: superior in technique, but in terms of physicality and nastiness, 289 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: a Quanta plays the game in a way that it 290 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: changes the way your entire offensive line does because Jeff, 291 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: we'll talk to when you're in those rooms and you 292 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: see people hitting and knocking people around, it makes other 293 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: people want to kind of jump in, and it changes 294 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: the tenor of your offense. And so a kwan who 295 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: comes in and brings that, with the athleticism, with the 296 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: other stuff that you can potentially be on the inside. 297 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: And that's not saying that Neil isn't worthy of being 298 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: in the conversation. But if you have a preference, the 299 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: NC state key gives you that nastiness that you have 300 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: to have, particularly in a rugged a f C. If 301 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: you if you look at the numbers, the measurables, you know, 302 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: the combine height, weight, speed, all that kind of stuff. Size, 303 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: don't forget hand size, I mean for quarterbacks, that's everything right. 304 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: Neil would be your your your pick, I mean, because 305 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: he's got that, you know, the height, weight and everything 306 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: looks perfect. Whereas Iky's a little bit smaller, not quite 307 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: as heavy. And in today's game, a lot of guys 308 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: and general managers are caught up about size. We are 309 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: at the two douval draft party presented by a Baptist South. 310 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: It's tonight at six o'clock at Daily's Place. Live drafting 311 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: houses and on stage appearances by head coach Doug Peterson 312 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: and selects Jaguars players. More info Jaguars dot Com, slash 313 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: Official Draft Party. Parking will be a bit tricky tonight. 314 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: There's an RV show in lot Ja. I think there's 315 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: an Iceman Hockey game tonight. So if you're coming down here, 316 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: come on earlier. I will tell people this. Just follow 317 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: the signs. It's it's very well explained when you're coming 318 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: in the car. I was coming in the car, and 319 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: then there's plenty of signs to indicate where you need 320 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: to park. Gates open at five o'clock. Up next, more 321 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: draft talk Defensive prospects at number one. It's Jaguar's Happy 322 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Absolutely, you could, because 323 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: if you're investing in Trevor Lawrence, you better invested people 324 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: who are gonna keep them up, right. Absolutely, But you know, 325 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: I think you still got Jawan Taylor there, right, So 326 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: you just invested in him a couple of years ago 327 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: as a second rounder who we all thought was going 328 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: to be a shrounder. So you think to yourself, what's 329 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: the next move. That's why it feels like pass rusher. 330 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: But they did go offensive lineman, doesn't that sounds like 331 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: where we started the whole process, And the whole process 332 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: started with but which offensive line with Jacksonville take and 333 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: then it morphed into the pass rusher. So that's why 334 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: this year is so exciting for all of us because 335 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: it may not be the five quarterbacks of last year, 336 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: but the uncertainty breads the excitement of this year. Charles 337 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: Davis of NFL Network and CBS Sports in Las Vegas 338 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: with Brian Sexton and welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour 339 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: from Daily's Place, home of the dou vol Draft party. 340 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: Coming up six o'clock. The festivities begin, eight o'clock the 341 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: draft begins. Will be here all night long. Good to 342 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: hear from our good friend Charles Davis there talking offensive line. 343 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: But then that shifts us over. We've already talked about 344 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: the two big names. Let's shift back over to defense. 345 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: And can I real quick in a comment in there, 346 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: because because that Jowan Taylor thing, we talked about Taylor 347 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: there tackle last time I checked that there's gonna be 348 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: some competition. That's right at right tackle walker little as 349 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: there should be competition, said that, Bucky, it's gonna be 350 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: a competition, But you know, does the person who come 351 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: in join that competition. If it's an offensive linement, we 352 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: should be the goal should be to put the five 353 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: best offensive linement on the field and figure out the matchups. 354 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: That's what you go through mini camps and training camp 355 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: in audit. You start mixing up the combinations because it's 356 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: a chemistry thing with the offensive line. But do you 357 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: wanna tell you the walking a little wouldn't discourage me 358 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: for taking it off as deafens up the board. Let's 359 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: move along now to some of the potential options on 360 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football and begin with Aidan 361 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: Hutchinson out of the University of Michigan fourteen sacks a 362 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: year ago. Broke his leg early in the season but 363 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: came back. He was a Heisman runner up last year, 364 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: the defensive player of the Year in the Big Ten, well, 365 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: unanimous All American. The accolades go on and on and on. Bucky, 366 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: you're all about this guy, and it's not just height 367 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: and wait, it's everything that goes with him on the field. 368 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: So at the top of the or Typically what you're 369 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: looking for is a guy with blue chip talent and 370 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: a blue color mentality. And when you talk to the 371 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: people around the program in Michigan, they can't say enough 372 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: good things about how he goes about his business working. 373 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: Talking to his teammate David Dajabo, he said, everything that 374 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: I learned about playing at a high level came from 375 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: watching Aidan Hutchinson and being with him. And so when 376 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: you think about a culture change or someone that's more 377 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: to set the tone, this is what he does. Outside 378 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: of being a really good player, the football character is outstanding. 379 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: And at the top of the board, we're talking about 380 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: getting someone that you know exactly what you're getting. There's 381 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: some certainty with Aidan Hutchinson that I liken that I 382 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: believe it character, productivity. He's athletic, but he's got arms 383 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: that are short. That's what he got short like a man. 384 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't have that short arms. The time you watch 385 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: your play football, he's really good and uh and on 386 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: top of that, what you talk about about how he 387 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: has that that that kind of dry and that he 388 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: teaches teammates. When you watch him on film, he plays 389 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: every down. He's not a guy that turns it on 390 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: when he's a pass rusher. Okay, he's a guy that 391 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: plays the rundowns just as hard he and then he 392 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: plays him just as good. He's stout. He can stuff 393 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: guys in the hole, he can get around guys. Is 394 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: he a super freak athletic guy like a Miles Garrett. No, okay, 395 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: he's not that. But the productivity, the measurables, and everything 396 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: else to me, says number one pick overall. And I 397 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: think you feel him like heaven't watched him up close 398 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: in person at the Big Ten Championship game. I felt 399 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: his presence like it was very clear and fair. In 400 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: the big game, he turned it up and nuts, he 401 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: made plays. And I know people would talk about the 402 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: Georgia game and they said, well, the first exposure that 403 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: a lot of people had to him was watching him 404 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: in the college football playoff and Georgia seeming to be 405 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: handled it. But if you watched how Georgia played, they 406 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: didn't go at him. The ball was out quick. They 407 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: made sure they took care of him because he was 408 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: the most impactful player for Michigan. I think this guy's 409 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: a slam duck. Has a number one pick to me 410 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: he should be the pit. Hey. By the way, from 411 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: a scouting standpoint, what's short on the t rex I 412 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: was like a thirty seven and a half thirty eight 413 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: in sleeve. Like someone is this guy got those listening 414 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: on radio? He's demonstrating the same time, fantastic You mentioned Georgia. 415 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: They had a fantastic defense and national champions and a 416 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: name going up a lot of my draft the last 417 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: month or so, at least since the combine, especially his 418 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, defensive lineman six, five seventy played the most 419 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: snaps on the defensive line for Georgia last year. He 420 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: was moving all around. But Bucky, this guy's moving up 421 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: boards after the combine. Yeah, there are a lot of 422 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: people that are fascinating, and it started right at the 423 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: combine because people had a chance to see him and 424 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: watch him go to work. And he's a very impressive athlete, 425 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: super explosive. You see the movie skills, the change of direction, 426 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: all of those things. And then when you think about 427 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: this defensive line, he played the most snaps. He was 428 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: all over the place. The only thing that bothers me 429 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: about Walker is is a projection over the production. The 430 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: other pass rushers that we're talking about. We see guys 431 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: get the quarterback down, and the one thing that translates 432 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: sack production. If you sack him in high school, you 433 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: sack him in college, you go sack him in the pros. 434 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: And I just don't know if you can say someone 435 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: who got six secs his final season is going to 436 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: be a double digit second artist and the pros, it's 437 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: uncommon to see that kind of jumping because you're you're 438 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: not only facing a higher level of an athlete, but 439 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: a more complex scheme. I mean, there's a lot of 440 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: reasons why the adjustment is is big. And when you 441 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: watch him, he's got some great tracks. Now he's big, strong, physical, 442 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: he's got heavy hands. He does a great job of 443 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: separating in the run game. Is a pass rusher though 444 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: what Buckey's referring to with the six and a half shacks, 445 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: his moves are very limited. He's still loves I don't 446 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: want to say an amateur, but you can still tell 447 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: that he's a developing pass rusher. Where you're watching Aiden Hutchinson, 448 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: you can see kind of moves that are in play 449 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: and get put to kind of execution wise, and that's 450 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a big difference there as far as 451 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: the P word, and I'm not talking about the potential 452 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: worst the production. Sometimes there was a guy who was 453 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: a a scout that I used to know for a 454 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: long period of time, and he said, the one thing 455 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: you gotta be careful of is giving yourself a speeding 456 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: ticket on a guy and getting excited about what you 457 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: see when they're wearing shorts. And uh. And I think 458 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: that that looks savon Walker. I think is a good 459 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: football player. But what Bucky's talking about projecting a guy 460 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: that sometimes can be interesting and and come sometimes flaw, 461 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: you know. And we had this conversation a little bit earlier, 462 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: and what's the perfect role for a Walker? I think 463 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: a four or three left defensive end would be a 464 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: perfect fit for him and this defense here. I don't 465 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: know if he's athletic enough to be a stand up 466 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: outside linebacker guy, but he would be more of a 467 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: defensive end guy. Then he could kick down to a 468 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: free technique as a pass rusher. Somebody's got some flexibility. 469 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 1: But is he gonna be that guy that's just gonna 470 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: be lighting up defenses and scaring quarterbacks? Maybe, but I 471 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: don't think right out of the gate, Dan, it may 472 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: take a while. And the one reason production matters in 473 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: terms of sack production, there's an art to knocking the 474 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: quarterback down. It's one thing to get close to it 475 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: and to touch him and didn't, but to get him 476 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: to the ground. There's a talent to that. And I 477 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: don't think you can under sail when a guy is 478 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: unable to do it, because those who do they do it, 479 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: and they do it year after year after year after year. 480 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: And the one thing when you watch Walker on film, 481 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: and Bucky will probably corroborate this, is that when he closes, 482 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: that acceleration is instant. I mean, he's sure, you know. 483 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: And in the difference I think when you look at 484 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: Hutchinson and Walker, is is that Hutchinson I think plays 485 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: with a little better instinct, a little better anticipation, whereas 486 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: Walker is still this dominant, physical, strong guy, but not 487 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: quite anticipating yet. And I think that's probably a factor 488 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: in the production. But could he be that guy? Could be? 489 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: I think at his high end, he plays like a 490 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: disruptive run defender like Jadevion clown Jadevion Clowney has never 491 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: been able to give you double digit sacks I think 492 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: maybe until this year, but he was very disruptive against 493 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: the run, and so he would create a lot of 494 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: negative plays. TfL's force phone was in those things because 495 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: of the athleticism and the explosiveness. But it's different. It's 496 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: not what you typically would associate with a number one 497 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: overall pick. But he's not as athletic as he's high end. 498 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: That is what you hope for. One more name. You know, 499 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: they said they were down to four this past Friday. 500 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: But one name that was mocked the Jaguars a lot 501 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: going into the off season, early in the offseason was 502 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: Cabon Thibodeaux. We haven't heard that name pop up. Why 503 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: do you think that name slipped out of a lot 504 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: of these mocks. So, I think there a couple of 505 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: things with Cavon Tipodeaux that rubs people the wrong way. Hi. 506 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: When you turn him to take he is what we 507 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: call a flash it. When he goes, it's impressive. But 508 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: there are a lot of laws where he doesn't go, 509 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: and so you're wondering is he gonna play hard all 510 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: the time and a lot of times what you don't 511 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: know is how is he going to change when the 512 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: fame that a claim and the money and all that 513 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: other stuff comes, are you gonna be able to get 514 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: him to turn it up? Now? To his credit, I 515 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: don't know if he was coached hard at Oregon to 516 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: learn how to run and play and go to the 517 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: ball in those things. But what I will say his 518 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: first step quickness is outstanding. Snap count anticipation. He has it. 519 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: He has a natural bend to him that's going to 520 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: allow him to get sacks to the quarterback. He also 521 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: does a good job of taking guys right down the 522 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: middle with a long arm. But the one thing that 523 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: you worry about is does he love it enough to 524 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: go from good to great as a pro? That is 525 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: the question and concern that you would have that that 526 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: long arm kind of like a Rickey Jackson back in 527 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 1: the day of the Saints. But when you talk about Ben, 528 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: this guy's got Ben. Now I'm talking if you compared 529 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: his athleticism to a Walker or Hutchinson, I think Thibodeau 530 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: is a better athlete than all of them. It's it's 531 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: different because it's funny because the numbers the other guy's 532 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: test better. But on the field, they're only handful of 533 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: guys that can turn the corn and those three steps 534 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: like he he has it and so if he decides 535 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: that he wants to be great, he'll be a great 536 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: player off the ends. You know, there's there's a lot 537 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: of things that guys are doing what they do on 538 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: a football field that shows athleticism. It's how low that 539 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: they can be to the ground and still be in control. 540 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: And this is a guy that has that athletic ability. 541 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: He can turn his foot it was like one foot 542 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: towards the quarterback and when he plants that, he's turning 543 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: and going that direction like a running back has the 544 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 1: great ability to plan a foot and then and make 545 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: that cut downhill. It's kind of the same thing, but 546 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: a little different with a pass rushing who's the best 547 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: in the game right now? With Ben been doing that? 548 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: Von or back back when Von was in his prime, 549 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Von Von is not. His legs are getting a little 550 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: bit old. Uh Um. I think it's Miles Garrett. Miles 551 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: Garrett has freaky athleticism anything, anything, and you can't come 552 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: you can. He is like he's the athlete up here. Okay, 553 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: everybody else lives down here in this neighborhood, but he's 554 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 1: up here. And I think Jeffrey take when he came out, 555 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't a refined technically. He's getting ten sexs just off, 556 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm a better athlete than you. Almost turn the corner 557 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: and go hit the court. Now he's learning both. No, 558 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: that's scary now for sure. The Jaguars are future focused 559 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: and ready for a new look in to join us 560 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: of the bank this season was Doug Peterson and quarterback 561 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence lead the charge. Walk in your seats at 562 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com, slash tickets or called nine oh four 563 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: six three three two thousand. What to expect the rest 564 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: of tonight after number one? Maybe the unexpectedness. We'll discuss 565 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: it when we come back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on 566 00:27:51,920 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. You know, you can make the 567 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: case for Walker on fit as well, you know, And 568 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: I look at Caldwell scheme and being there Todd Bowles 569 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: and think about JPP and the success he had. You know, 570 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: you could you could make that match there with Walker. 571 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: I think you know, Hutchinson gett a chance to rush 572 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: from a two point stance, there would would be pretty 573 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: dynamic as well. Um So, I mean it's it's what 574 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: you know right now with Hutchinson. I think he comes 575 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: in clear packaging. I think there's some unknown uh there 576 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: with Walker, But I think that we sell Hutchinson's short 577 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: on the ceiling, and I feel like we sell Walker 578 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: a little short on the floor. I think they're they're 579 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: they're both gonna be really good football players. Let's lead 580 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: draft analysts for NFL Network, Daniel Jeremiah in Las Vegas 581 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: with Brian Sexton, and we are at Daily's Place for 582 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: the doll Draft party. Gates open at five o'clock. The 583 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: festivities underway at six o'clock. That you draft underway at 584 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: eight o'clock. JP, Shadrick, Jeff Lagam, and Bucky Brooks with 585 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: us from the next Yeah, who's that Jeremiah guy? We got? 586 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: We got Bucky that he's the lead, he's a leader, 587 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: he's at the network. Well, we're glad to have you 588 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: here with us. I know that that's for sure. No 589 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: matter what he's doing, it's awesome. No, that's great. This 590 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: is great. This is great. First time I've been in 591 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: a long time with the team on draft night and drafted. 592 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: The energy should be fun to be around it all 593 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: over a year. Is there anything better than talking ball 594 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: and talking home. I mean, unfortunately, that's really where this 595 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: team has been after the last couple of years, and 596 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: that's the only thing they've had to hold on to. 597 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: His home, and that's the draft has always represented home, 598 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: and this is a franchise that helps it. Some of 599 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: the picks that they make today can change the fortunes. 600 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: And that's why the fans I think, are extremely excited 601 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: about him. It should be excited. I'm more excited about 602 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson coming over, like having played with him, having 603 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: played with some of the guys that are on the 604 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: coaching staff, just really excited about the professionalism, Like those 605 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: guys haven't played. Those guys haven't been on the field. 606 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: I just think it would be a for a dynamic, 607 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: different scene in the path you think. I just saying 608 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: the last year was kind of a train wreck. Maybe So. 609 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Jaguars inner today and there's NFL Draft with twelve picks 610 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: on the docket, tied for the most in the National 611 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: Football League. One today, three on the docket tomorrow, one 612 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: of the second round, two in the third round, and 613 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: then eight more on Saturday. How many of those do 614 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: they actually pick? Do they make moves? Trader Trent, does 615 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: he show up like he did in San Francisco. What 616 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: happens here, guys, what do you think? Well? I mean, 617 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: for me, I think this team moves up, and I 618 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: think it would be wise too. And when I say 619 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: move up from the first pick of the second round, 620 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: which is the first pick of Day two, you've got 621 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: four or six round picks to seven or two sevenths 622 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: and then you'll also have a fifth round pick. For me, 623 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: those picks, use them as much as you can to 624 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: get find a way to get back into the first round. 625 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of guys to pick from, I think, 626 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: and and Bucky has a little bit better handle on 627 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: the overall talent of the draft, but Lucky, there's two 628 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: guys that I really like, one of them the center 629 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: in Iowa. The other ones of pass Rusher Perdue, Okay 630 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: linder Bomb and then George Carloftis. I think those are 631 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: very interesting pick because ultimately you talk about Trader Trent, 632 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: what you should do and what you are doing is 633 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 1: you have a wish list that you want to come 634 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: out of Draft weekend with these kinds of players, and 635 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: so if you think about packaging, so let's just say 636 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: we go with a pass rusher at one, then you 637 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: want to come back in the second round and maybe 638 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: you get an offensive linement, So then Linderbaum would be 639 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: in that conversation at thirty three. It makes at the 640 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, you're like, Okay, we feel good 641 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: about where we are. And then I still believe they 642 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: need a speed receiver somewhere in this draft, someone that 643 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: can take the top off the defense to kind of 644 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: spread it out from Marvin Jones and Christie Kirk and 645 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: z Jones and those guys to do work. And so 646 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: it's where do I need to get to to get 647 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: one of the best in those positions, and so trading 648 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: up getting rid of those six and sevens to move 649 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: into range to get players that can come in and 650 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 1: be immediate contributors. That has to be the folks in emphasis. 651 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: I just don't think you have enough roster spots for 652 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,959 Speaker 1: all of these picks that we're talking about if they 653 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: stay put, to be able to make this roster, whether 654 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: it be on practice squad or the active roster. I mean, 655 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: it's a tremendous amount of players. And then you look 656 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: at the large free agency class that they brought in 657 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: with some of the existing recent draft picks that you're 658 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: hoping to develop. I mean, I think you've got to 659 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: end up turning some of those picks into fewer picks, 660 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: but higher ones players over picks, meaning blue chip players, 661 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: players that can come in and contribute. And to your point, 662 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: George got loftis underrated throughout the process. He's a power rusher, 663 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: and I think when we talk about athleticism, the fact 664 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: that he was on the Greek national team as a 665 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: water polo player, to me, speaks volumes about who he is. 666 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,959 Speaker 1: New to the game, still learning the game. But man, 667 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: he's a powerful players. The little attitude, he has some 668 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: stuff to him. He's got a lot of stuff to him. 669 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: He's really young. But but athletically, you know, we're talking 670 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: earlier about the bend uh and and to get off 671 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: and all the things that are key to a pass rush. 672 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: The they call him the Greek freak. How to perdue 673 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: this guy? He has, He's got some tools. How different 674 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: is it? Then let's say, Hutchinson, I don't know, I 675 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: don't I don't you know here, I think this is 676 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: an interesting ban And I said this to somebody. I 677 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: would not be surprised if Karl Laptus is a guy 678 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: that could end up having as many sacks as a 679 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: Hutchinson could. Yeah, I mean, but he understands the artistry 680 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: he played. Sorry, you gotta understand where he played at Perdue. 681 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: There's been a number of pass Russince that's come out 682 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: of there. He is up there at the top of 683 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: the list when it comes to production and disruption and 684 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: all those things. He's a really good player. He might 685 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: fall out. He's god at the bottom of the first round, 686 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: bottom of the first round, top of second death where 687 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: he goes. Sometimes you gotta think about doubling up at 688 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: the position. There's nothing wrong with doubling up. If you 689 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: want to address the need, go twice. Make sure you 690 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: addressed by getting multiple Have you ever not a team 691 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: that had too many pass rushers? You can't have right now? 692 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: And as here's the thing, if you end up going 693 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: Walker at one, okay, Walker is a is a three 694 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: technique pass rusher once you get the sub package Nicola 695 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: and don uh so I think he is. And then 696 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now you need a guy around 697 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: the edge and the game in the game, we're gonna 698 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: be a nickel. So you have to treat it like that. 699 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: Make sure, you gotta you gotta roll him in. You 700 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: can't have enough it used to be. The game has changed. 701 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: It's a passing league, pinball football. You better score because 702 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: they're going to on the other side. Speaking of that, 703 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: let's shift our conversation out of the wide receiver position. 704 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: You mentioned a deep guy, deep threat. Well, I mean, 705 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: who are some of those guys that could be available 706 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: lower first into the second round. Guys like Jamison Williams 707 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: might be out, a lobby might be gone. Garrett Wilson 708 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: Ohio State probably gone. What's that next level of guy? Well, 709 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: next series? Great. So you can see a bunch of 710 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: wide receivers throughout this draft that can make an immediate 711 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: impact in terms of roll specific guys for the Jaguars. 712 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: Talking on Thornton from Baylor is somewhere for to eight 713 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: at the combat but he's a lieutenant track star going 714 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: all the way back. Big top speed can take the 715 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: top off the defense, off the coverage. Then, did Jaguars 716 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: need that explosive playmaker? Jaden Tilbert from South Alabama another guy, 717 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: a speaster that can take the top offer of coverage. 718 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: If you want someone that is more of the route 719 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: runner type, Khalio, secure guy from wen Go, Boise State. 720 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: Another route runner that can do it. Different smaller guys 721 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: Calvin Austin, but t tiny five seven. I don't know 722 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: if you want that, but there's plenty of guys in 723 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: the second, third round, even top of the fourth round 724 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: they can make contribution as a speed received if the 725 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: guys five sevens, he better run like Tyreek Hill. He runs, 726 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: but he's smaller. He's smaller, but he had to miss 727 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: him because he's fast. But a little a little self 728 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: evaluation here with the Jaguars, you have a lot of 729 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: guys because uh literally with Laviscous Chanal and then Christian Kirk, 730 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: these guys are I think, are more suited to the 731 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: inside receiving positions. The one thing that you don't have, 732 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: and Marvin Jones isn't even one of these guys. You 733 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: don't have a guy that you can line up on 734 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: the outside and go. That's what you don't have. And 735 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: so if you are gonna find a wide receiver in 736 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: this draft, you better have a guy that's gonna go shoot, which, 737 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: by the way, who means really fast, really bad? But 738 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: what but what Larns is talking about is the way 739 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: that we think about the wide receiver room. It needs 740 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: to be a basketball team. You gotta have guys with 741 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: different tools, sizes, shapes, left speed. You want to be 742 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: able to throw different things out there. And I wouldn't 743 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: be surprised to also see another tight end find this 744 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 1: way here based on the way that Doug likes to 745 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: play twelve personnel two tight ends on the field, because 746 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: you can dictate so many things in the run game 747 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: and the passing game with those guys into me. Evan 748 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: Ingram is a jumbo slot receiver. We may have him 749 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: listed he run out the tunnel with tight end, but 750 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: he's a jumbo slot I mean really, And here's how 751 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: you know that when when you watch him play, you 752 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: look at how defensive coordinators play him. Defensive coordinators played 753 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: him as a wide receiver all year. What you would 754 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: like to have is a tight end that the defensive 755 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 1: coordinator is in a little bit of a quandary, how 756 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: do we treat him? Well? The Kelsey's uh and the 757 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: Gronx Okay of the league, they create legitimate matchup problems 758 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: because if you put a small guy on him, he'll 759 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: block and and all of a sudden, now you're out 760 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: the gate and with the running games, and okay, that's 761 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: the one thing that Evan Ingram is not. He's not 762 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: a guy that can really block as a big man 763 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: and then catch the ball. So I'm like he's talking 764 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: about buck, He's talking about don't be surprised if this 765 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: team finds a tight end, and if they do, it'll 766 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: be a guy that has the ability to do both 767 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: and to do both well block in catch. Where do 768 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: they find that. Tray McBride would be one. Tray McBride 769 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: from Colorado State is the best one in the class, 770 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: but he is someone second round ish that can do it. 771 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: He's a guy that was a three spots standout in 772 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: high school because from Colorado State called a lot of 773 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: pass but looking him block on the edges. Greg Dotches 774 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: from u C l A walk on made his way 775 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: into a big time receiver and playmaker formal receiver, but 776 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 1: he can get gritty there. I just think it's really 777 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: important we're seeing tight ends in importance of controlling the 778 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: middle of the field making life easy for Trevor Lawrence. 779 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: More tight end is more big bodies, more guys that 780 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: can do a bunts of different things. I would be 781 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: a little surprised if they did go tight end just 782 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: because you know, you you got a guy in free 783 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: agency last year that you feel really good about as 784 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: a blocker, and then you traded for a guy with 785 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: Dan Arnold, and now you got Evan Ingram. You got 786 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: two receiving guys and an inline guy. So I I 787 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: know the draft. You you gotta do what they call 788 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: trust your board, okay, and you're picking the guys that 789 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: are had the highest grade, but sometimes sometimes the need 790 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,439 Speaker 1: just kind of pulls your way into another position. Group. 791 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 1: Going back to the start of our conversation here, don't 792 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: turn off the television after number one, right, they could 793 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: jump back into night. Yeah, I would, I would think 794 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: because if there's it in a prime spot, one in 795 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: the top of the second round, So there's gonna be 796 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: interest for the Jaguars one way deal either interesting coming 797 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: up into the first round or everyone was the first 798 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: big because there's going to be a name or two 799 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 1: that surprisedly falls out of the first round that people 800 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: are coming to wanting to get to. So it's a 801 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: nice spot for Trent Bak. He has to make a 802 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: decision if there's someone that he identifies that I want 803 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 1: to go get or do I want to play it conservative, 804 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: back out lit some more picks and go get Well, 805 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: I think there's gotta be somebody that they really like 806 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 1: for them to trade up with that pick, because that 807 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: pick has value. What we'll with what is called the 808 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: overnight factor. You know, if you still have that pick, 809 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: you get to feel calls from thirty one teams from 810 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: the end of the draft tonight until the draft starts 811 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: tomorrow about somebody offering you picks to come out of 812 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: that spot. So I think that's a very interesting situation 813 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: to be in. But the number of picks that they have, 814 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: and I think what we're talking about was if you've 815 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: got a guy, go up and get them. Trader Trent 816 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: getting ready. We heard from earlier here on jaguar Is 817 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. We're back in a moment with a look 818 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: around the National Football League the NFL Draft in Lons Vegas, Nevada. 819 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: In two Bryan Sexton is out there for us on 820 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. You'll see some of his interviews coming up. 821 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: But he said it is built for the NFL Draft 822 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: was built for a lot of things, but the draft 823 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 1: fits in well. In Las Vegas, the Jaguars had the 824 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: number one pick. We're back to close out Jaguars Happy 825 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: Hour after this on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back 826 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: at Jaguars Happy Hour and if you're watching on Jaguars 827 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: dot Com Jaguars Social channels, it's a live look at 828 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: the Football Performance Centered construction site the side of the 829 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: old practice fields, the side of old Wolfson Park. Well, 830 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: it's now going to be the site for the new 831 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: building for the Jaguars football operations and it should be 832 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: open and ready in the twenty three training camps. Is 833 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 1: that a pool that they're digging in on the left side, 834 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: It does look a little up. Yeah, yeah, that are 835 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 1: a fishing pond. Wouldn't that be a fishing pond? Really, 836 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: that's what we need around here, some more of those, 837 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: perfect more yet, so that's to be open little bit. 838 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: We see the construction every single day and just one 839 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 1: of a few things going on here in the sports complex. Tonight, 840 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: RV show logs, the Iceman have a playoff game tonight. 841 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: They have guns and Roses in concert. Apparently behind us, 842 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: Axel Rose is getting allowed the roar of the Jaguar 843 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: is going through their their warm ups to get ready 844 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: for tonight's show here at Daily's Place. Hey, inside the 845 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: stadium since the practice fields are gone, the Jaguars are 846 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: having volunteering veteran mini camp on the game field now inside, 847 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: so the first chance for coaches to be on the 848 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: field with players. They're doing some minor things, throwing the 849 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: ball around a little bit, logs. Good thing. Yeah, pretty 850 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: pretty neat too, and that you know, for this stadium 851 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: typically has kind of like a gravel border around the 852 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: outside eid of it, and they completely changed the field 853 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: out its grasp completely from wall to wall on the 854 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: plane field to maximize the ability of square inches as 855 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: far as grass for the plays. At some point they're 856 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: gonna start going across the river to Episcoper to use 857 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: their fields. But for the moment, for some of this 858 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: all season stuff, uh, they're doing it right here in 859 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: the stadio. Nice nice little practice field because that surface 860 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: there is unbelievable, real nice. It looks nice. It looks 861 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: nice to be able to do it and wising them 862 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: practice in the stating. It's a nice feel to being 863 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: ever going there and do it. I know. It has 864 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: to be nice for the players to finally get back 865 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: to active with a new coaching staff kind of put 866 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: some of the things they've seen it on the board 867 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: to put him into player on the ground. It's early 868 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: in that process, so I mean, right, I mean, we 869 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,760 Speaker 1: just started. It's kind of interesting that you hear different 870 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: comments from around the league about teams getting back on 871 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: the grass and from Russell Wilson claiming to have you know, 872 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: the great players that he's working with, and and Matt 873 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: Ryan having some great receivers in Indianapolis. You know, every 874 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: team in April feels really good about where they are, 875 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,479 Speaker 1: really good. You'ren want to be like, oh, we're gonna 876 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,279 Speaker 1: stink this year. We know it. In May, like we 877 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: can't say that we can't sit in the draft is 878 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: when the optimism really is because now you've got new players, 879 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: new energy, everyone's in the building the offseason, proach, undefeated. 880 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: Everybody has a chance to Yes, thank you for that 881 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: right there, knocking on the door. Let's go around the 882 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: National Football League a few notes and the news and 883 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: notes from around the league reports that the Raiders were 884 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: looking to trade tight end Darren Waller. Waller was on 885 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,879 Speaker 1: CBS Sports Radio this week said the team told him 886 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: a trade is not going to happen. Why in the 887 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: world would they trade him away? By Yeah, that's a 888 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: room of going bad. You don't go in acquire Davante 889 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: Adams to go with Hunter Renfro, signed Derek Carter and 890 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: extended to then remove an Alfro weapon. No, he's going 891 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: to be He's gonna be there for he he is, uh, 892 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean really arguably the second best tight end in football. 893 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he's unbelievable and I don't think that he's 894 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: reached his ceiling yet. That is totally false. Whoever came 895 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: out with that rumor that he was gonna be traded, 896 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: Raiders are not gonna get rid of him. Who's the 897 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 1: number one tight end? Kelsey Kelsey, number one George Kittle, 898 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: Let's say it was Kittling is good, okay, but Kittle's 899 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: not the receiver that Kelsey and Kelsey. For a long time, 900 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: I used to kind of question some of his blocking, 901 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 1: but he's actually done a pretty good job and he's willing. Uh, 902 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: he's a little feisty. But Darren Waller is just you know, 903 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: when you talk about freakish ability, I mean in the 904 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: ability to run in length and catch radius. Uh, wow, 905 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: he's got it all. Fifth year option week apparently. Of course, 906 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: we mentioned Josh Allen got the fifth year option with 907 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Christian Wilkins got it with the Dolphins, Kyler 908 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 1: Murray with the Cardinals. Well, Daniel Jones apparently not getting 909 00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: it with the New York Football Giants. How about that, Buck, Yeah, 910 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 1: Danny Dives didn't get a fifth year option, but you 911 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: kind of expected that based on the injuries, the number 912 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 1: of turnovers. New coaching staff. You don't want necessarily lock 913 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: yourself in because then you do it, you don't like him. 914 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: You have a Sam Donald situation like you had in 915 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: New York. So what you wanna do is, hey, if 916 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: Danny Darris plays well, they'll give him his money. But 917 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: he has to play well. He's not worth it right now. 918 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the fact that's you know. I mean, 919 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: the reality is is that he hasn't proven to be 920 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: a great quarterback, and then until he does, you know, teams, 921 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: teams aren't gonna just throw out the fifth year option 922 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: at guys unless there's a lot of high productivity, especially 923 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 1: at that quarterback position. Because the Giants have some amo 924 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 1: in the future to be able to take a serious 925 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: run out a quarterback in future draft class, not this one, 926 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 1: but in the future. Let's wrap up this Jaguars Happy 927 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: our program j P Shadrick, Bucky Brooks and Jeff Flagman. 928 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,479 Speaker 1: You know how quickly things can change when you're talking 929 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: NFL Draft last May. If you're into the odds of 930 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: number one picks and what way you're could go number one, 931 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: some of these sports books started putting out their odds 932 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: well last May. One of them were the initial odds 933 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: they put out in May of last year for the 934 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: number one picked. This year, here's the order they had 935 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler, quarterback Sam how cornerback Cavon Thibodeau, Derek Stingley Jr. 936 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: Tetan Slova's from sc the quarterback Malique Willis, d G Daniels, 937 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: Emery Jones. I mean, the list goes on, it changes, 938 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: off seasons happened, a full college season happens, and then 939 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: you never know. And of course tonight the Jaguar has 940 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: had the number one overall pick logs. I'll start with 941 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: you what happens at number one overall? That I Ade Hutchinson. 942 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: I think that's that's who they picked. And I might 943 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,240 Speaker 1: be wrong, and uh if if I was in Vegas. 944 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: I might lose some money, but that's who I picked. 945 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean, if I really don't know what they're gonna do. 946 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: But if I were making the pick, it would be 947 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: hard not to pick Hutchinson, and it would also be 948 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,880 Speaker 1: very difficult to take the quarters, right. I think I 949 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: usually pick one. I know, but I like both of 950 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: those guys, and I want to trade back in and 951 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: get the second and third overall pick for the first 952 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: sounds like Urban last year. I want to trade it 953 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: to get cow picks. Wait a minute, he wasn't well. 954 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: I did a deep die j p and uh. I 955 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: think we can get the value for that pick. I 956 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: like Hudsonson at number one. I'm still in my guts. 957 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: Something that's telling me that tradebault Walker is going to 958 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: end up being the pick. Maybe it's the Balky think, 959 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: maybe it's the history then he had with all this. 960 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it's hard to get out of guests 961 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: a year in your own mind. But traybauld Walker a Hudson, 962 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: I believe it's going to be one of the past. 963 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: Question and not the office and taunt. You're done with 964 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: the offensive tack. I mean, I would like you, but 965 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm not thinking I don't have him pick, but if 966 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,359 Speaker 1: I did, it would be a Hudson because I believe 967 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: he's the safest here. Here's the thing, and I think 968 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: I was. I was posed a question on an interview 969 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: that we did or I did earlier today with with 970 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,320 Speaker 1: with a group out on Ask and they said, you 971 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: know you are you a believer? They used to golf analogy, 972 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: do you like hitting it down the center of the 973 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: fairway or do you like to swing big. I'm a 974 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: believer in hitting it down the fairway because sometimes when 975 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,760 Speaker 1: you just try to hit it down the fairway, sometimes 976 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: it ends up being big because I think, and I'm 977 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 1: not trying to be safe, but I'm just trying to 978 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, you trust your eyes and productivity and uh 979 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,279 Speaker 1: to me in the film says a lot. And it's 980 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: hard to argue against the productivity in the film of 981 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson. And then you throw in the football character, 982 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: because the character really really matters. The guy really loves ball, 983 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,000 Speaker 1: he's a great teammate, He's done everything that you want 984 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: to see from a work ethic standpoint throughout the time 985 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 1: in Michigan. He's going to continue to be the same 986 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: guy here. I think it would really fit in well 987 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 1: in this locker room. And and here's the thing. When 988 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: you talk about locker room fit, you're trying to change 989 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: the culture here, Okay, and this I think this is 990 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: a guy that can help change a culture. But if 991 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 1: they don't take Aidan Hutchinson, Detroit will go crazy. Detroit 992 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: will absolutely crazy. And if they don't take Aidan Hutchinson 993 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: here there will forever be a comparison if the Jaguars 994 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: take Walker with Hutchinson. There you have it. The picks 995 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: are in on Jaguars Happy Hour coming up. Our coverage 996 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 1: continues on Jaguars dot Com at seven thirty. It's Draft 997 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: Night in Duvall our pregame show. If you will for 998 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. We'll get you ready for the number 999 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: one pick and beyond the Jaguars at number one. The 1000 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: Jags have twelve picks in this draft, at least going 1001 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: into today. We'll see how many they have after today. 1002 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: For Bucky Brooks, Jeff Logging, and our entire crew, I'm J. P. Shadrick. 1003 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: We'll see a little bit later here at Daily's Place. 1004 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 1: This is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.