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Speaker 1: You should not receive a for sure, tell your doctor

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Speaker 1: you have a parasitic infection. I'm actually at the movie theater.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, we probably we probably shouldn't talk then.

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Speaker 1: No, that's cool. Movie didn't start selling previews. I'm walking out?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It didn't even start yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So what's up?

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Speaker 1: Man? The month? That's so with you? Bron?

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Speaker 2: Am I on like a headset or something? Or are

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Speaker 1: No, you're just right on my ear?

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Speaker 2: Cool? What movie are you seeing?

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Speaker 1: Backgrounds? Baby? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Very nice? Very nice? What what made you want to

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Speaker 1: I was gonna call because to talk about a breakup

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Speaker 1: that had last week?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, what happened?

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Speaker 1: Basically? You know, like that concept that like you either

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Speaker 2: Okay, she didn't know that you were like not completely

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like we were together for almost five years.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, I think she thought I would the one,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Were you at any point soaked

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Speaker 1: We were, I would tell you very much love for

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Speaker 2: You were very much in love in four years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the last year things kind of changed.

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Speaker 2: What happened in the last year, Let's see.

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Speaker 1: A lot of familial things. My grandfather died. Certain aspects

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Speaker 2: Oh, like what.

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Speaker 1: We I had a an on the road videography job

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Speaker 2: Okay, what how did she react to the breakup if

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Speaker 1: Horribly. I did it really bad too. It prospectively it

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Speaker 2: Do you want to share? How did you do it badly? I? Uh?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, like I've had with.

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Speaker 2: You on to date right now? At the back rooms?

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Speaker 2: So that's something that would be. That would also be

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Speaker 1: That would be funny. Oh you want to hear a

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Speaker 2: You felt the euphoric feeling talking to a stranger about

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Speaker 2: There's nothing stopping you from walking up to strangers and

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I wouldn't. I wouldn't doubt it.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing in this world that you are. There's something

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Speaker 1: I need my camera my mom. Probably it was probably

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Speaker 2: I like magical.

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Speaker 2: I like the fact that you've bent reality. You're you're

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Speaker 2: That sounds like something you would do. Absolutely, do you

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Speaker 2: Well I asked because you said, uh, your camera and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there for vastly different reasons.

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Speaker 1: a on a movie ticket. In general, I go to

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00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: the movies like three times a week.

442
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 2: Oh you do.

443
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: I'm a frequinter.

444
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you see, so you're kind of

445
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 2: the reason why you're taking or leave it about seeing

446
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: this movie is because you've seen a movie. You get it,

447
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: You get the idea. You sit in a theater, you

448
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: watch a thing, you get it. You know you missed

449
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: this one. You have three more next week that you

450
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: go to.

451
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, conversation runs along. I'll just hang out

452
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: in my car and wait till the next showtime.

453
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: Can you get in after the next show time? You

454
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 2: already spent your are you gonna buy another ticket.

455
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: I have the I have the AMC membership, so I

456
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: can just used one of my other free tickets.

457
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: How many free tickets do you get a week?

458
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: Four?

459
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 2: Okay? Okay, so you this is technically your technically are

460
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: not wasting money doing this because you have the AMC

461
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: Stubbs thing.

462
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: Now, and I'd probably pay way more than a movie ticket. Yeah,

463
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: I have this conversation so interesting. Money doesn't matter, man,

464
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: what do you?

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Speaker 2: Okay? On that subject, what do you do for a living?

466
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: Who are I don't really know any I really don't know.

467
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 2: You know. What's funny is all I really know about

468
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 2: you is the physical situation that you're in right now.

469
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: I know about your breakup. I know a little bit

470
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: about your family, but I don't really know a lot

471
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Speaker 2: about you aside from what I can glean from the

472
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 2: current situation that you're in. I can glean a lot

473
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: about your character from that. But who are you? What

474
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: do you do for a living?

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Speaker 1: I work at a retail grocerysource? Okay, it's fun, it's

476
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: a job. I previously he was working for a dance

477
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: company doing on the road videography. That's pretty cool.

478
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: That is really cool.

479
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: I spend my afternoons going on walks and maybe playing

480
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: a game or two, watching a movie, making dinner.

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00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: How old are you?

482
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: I am twenty two, about to be twenty three?

483
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: Cool? Do you? I feel like I know the answer

484
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: this question. But do you have like dreams? You have goals?

485
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: You do? Okay, I was gonna, I was gonna I honestly,

486
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 2: I'll be honestly, I was gonna assume you didn't, and

487
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: not that there's I don't place the value adjustment on that.

488
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: But everything I know about you so far would lead

489
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: to me to believe that you're not a guy that

490
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 2: thinks too hard about the future.

491
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Speaker 1: I'll I put I give you the wrong thing. My

492
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: entire life is pursuit of the future. Really, it's yeah,

493
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Speaker 1: but in regards to myself, not necessarily in regards to

494
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Speaker 1: things out of my control.

495
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: Of course.

496
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: But but.

497
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Speaker 2: How do you weigh that against the fact that you

498
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: are clearly a take it or leave it guy?

499
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: I think a more take it or leave it in

500
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: things around me, But the things solely regarding me, I

501
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: give an insane amount of thought too, like almost too

502
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: much thought, like debilitating thought.

503
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Speaker 2: What tell me about this future that you're pursuing.

504
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the dream is to create some form of

505
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: art that's meaningful enough to other people to have them

506
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: talk about it and then talk to you about it,

507
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: and then be interested in further a legacy.

508
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you're doing this right. I'm gonna go

509
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: ahead and say that buying a ticket I mean, the

510
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: subs thing ruins it a little bit, but let's forget

511
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: about that. I think buying it. I'm gonna go ahead

512
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: and say I'll say this, buying a ticket to see

513
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: a movie and then sitting on the floor of the

514
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: movie theater outside of the movie instead of seeing the movie.

515
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: Could one call that a form of performance art? And

516
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: if they could, are you then sharing that with me

517
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: right now? And we're now sharing it with other people

518
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: who might find who Some might find it stupid, some

519
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: might find it interesting? Are you? Are you therefore not

520
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: achieving your dream in this very moment as we speak.

521
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: I think for a long time I haven't been achieving

522
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: my dream. So this is borderlinic continuation of the life

523
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: I've been living.

524
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: Anyway, Why have you not been achieving your dream?

525
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: A fear of failure, the whole nine yards, procrastination, getting

526
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: too addicted to screens, not using my time. Wively number

527
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: of excuses I could give to myself. Yeah, m hmm,

528
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: but I'm working on it. You gotta work on it

529
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: every day.

530
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: Okay. What's your art? Movies? Making a short film?

531
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, writing? I mean I love photography, but half the

532
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: time I don't even develop my roles of film. I

533
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: just like taking the pictures.

534
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: You're Yeah, you're in it for the process. Yeah, that's

535
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 2: all that matters. That's all you have.

536
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because once the thing is done, the thing is done,

537
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: and it's out of your control.

538
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've I've really noticed that in my own personal

539
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: artistic journeys. You know, all you really have is the

540
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: process of the thing that you're doing. So you might

541
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: as well like the process.

542
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: Do you edit your own docs or does someone else

543
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: do it for you?

544
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: I I so far, I edit the bulk of my documentaries. Yeah. No,

545
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: I was about I was gonna. I had this whole

546
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: thing where I was like, you know, I'm gonna just

547
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: go gung ho on the documentaries. But then I went

548
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: to Japan for a little while, and now I got

549
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: this tour coming up. But once I've got more time,

550
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna i might go to Venezuela. So I talked

551
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: to some guy in Venezuela. He sounds cool. I like

552
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: this thing where like some random guy on Instagram dms

553
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: me to come to some place and I just go.

554
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: It's been fun. I want to keep doing that. See,

555
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: that's something I feel like I could do forever, Like

556
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 2: I'll never run out of like kind of weird places

557
00:33:59,520 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: to go to.

558
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a billions of people, billions, and every

559
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: single one of them is interesting. So do you believe

560
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: that's as long as they're not a serial killer.

561
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: That would make them more interesting.

562
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: As long as you got to tell the story. But

563
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: if you die, then that sucks.

564
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would suck. Do you really believe that? Do

565
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: you really believe that everyone is interesting?

566
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I think they might not seem interesting, but I

567
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: mean everyone's got something weird, even if it's the way

568
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: that you drag your foot when you walk. Like. People

569
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: are are individuals for a reason. There's no like. I

570
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 1: mean some people have some people are boring, but they're interesting.

571
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: I agree with that. It's hard when I when I'm

572
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: in my like super like fucking like NDMA lovey peaceful mode,

573
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: whatever I do I'm not. I'm not talking about like

574
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: literally being on MDMA, but like when I'm in like whatever,

575
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, I'm super peaceful. That is how I feel.

576
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: I'm like everyone just like being like conscious human being

577
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: is kind of inherently interesting. I do, I do. I

578
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: do believe that.

579
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes it's like it's the least expected people

580
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: that you can get it out of. Sure, Like that

581
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: that what what makes you like a sentient being? It's

582
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: so fun.

583
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Speaker 2: I was trying. My mom was visiting like a week ago,

584
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: and you know, my mom, I love, I love my mom.

585
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: My mom is a little more uh tethered to reality

586
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: than I am. She's like, you know uh. And I

587
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: tried to get into like a deep conversation with her,

588
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: just like sitting it was it was really awkward. We

589
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: were like sitting at the park on like a table

590
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: or whatever. We're having coffee, and I just said to her,

591
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: like I think, I said, like, so, what what goes

592
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: on in your internal monologue? Like what do you think

593
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: about all day? And she like didn't hear me, really,

594
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: she just said she said what And then I just

595
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 2: I I and then someone else and then my stepdad

596
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: said something to her. And I just I dropped it.

597
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't think we're I don't think

598
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: this is how we're getting there. I don't think you

599
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: You can't go in directly. You can't go in direct

600
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 2: that shit. You can't. That's like doing a fucking you

601
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: gotta do a jab jab right hook. You know, you

602
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: can't just go straight for the kill. You can't just

603
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: be like, tell me something deep right now.

604
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost harder when you, like, when you want

605
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: to pursue that level of it's a level of intimacy,

606
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, it's harder with the people closest to you, Yeah,

607
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: for sure, because you know so much about them and

608
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: they know so much about you, but they don't know

609
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: how your brain works. You know.

610
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 2: Do you see any popcorn on the ground, or maybe

611
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: like candy or empty bottles of water?

612
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: There's absolutely nothing? Do you I'll send you a picture.

613
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to see what I've been looking at

614
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: the whole time? Uh?

615
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yes, do I texted to this number. I'll

616
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: see it.

617
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: Wait where.

618
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, dide I just looked at hold on, dude,

619
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: I just looked at all right, I'm looking at our

620
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: text history now, you know, do you remember. Do you

621
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: remember do you remember the last thing you texted me?

622
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: It's the condom on the ground thing.

623
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Speaker 2: You texted me two years ago, saying, I call me

624
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: later if you're bored. Winki face. I once licked a

625
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: condom off the ground in a Target parking lot.

626
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's you know? It's funny of that?

627
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: Tell me?

628
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: So the story, isn't that funny? We were like out

629
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: chasing Pokemon cards, me and my friends, and I found

630
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: a sealed condom on the on the floor of Target.

631
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: So I just opened it and then put in my mouth.

632
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: But the legends of the experience, like when my friends

633
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: meet new people and we're all together in a group,

634
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: they will constantly say that it was a used condom

635
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: and I pulled it off the ground, And I'm like, man,

636
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: if that was true, the story would be so much better.

637
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: But it's not true. So why do you guys bring

638
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: it up like that?

639
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

640
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: Like, I one to do some weird shit just for

641
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: the story, but that one that's not the truth.

642
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: Okay. So it was a So you found the condom,

643
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: a sealed condom in the parking lot of Target, and

644
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: then you licked it. Yeah, Okay, why did you do that?

645
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 1: Sometime's gonna just do something to make the boys laugh.

646
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 2: It is funny. That would have made me laugh if

647
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: I was there.

648
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: And I knew they would laugh.

649
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: I knew it would get them there. When's the next show?

650
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: Because you're we're about we've been talking for forty minutes

651
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: right now, So the movie you were supposed to see,

652
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: it's probably been going for like at least twenty five minutes.

653
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: We're twenty five minutes into the back Rooms movie.

654
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: It's probably pretty good right now.

655
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: Truely, yeah, this is probably the good part that we're

656
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: missing and whatever. Well, so by the time this call ends,

657
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: I still haven't decided if we're going to do the

658
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: full hour. It's forty minutes, so we could get there.

659
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: But but even if we do do the full hour,

660
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: but either if the call ends now or in twenty minutes,

661
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: you're in a bit of an awkward place where the

662
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: movie has kind of gone on a little too long

663
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: for you to just It's not like you missed the

664
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: first ten minutes, like you missed pretty much all of it.

665
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: Are you just gonna wait until the next showing?

666
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: That's that's something I have to decide at the moment. Okay,

667
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: I live about twenty five minutes away. Now I'm not

668
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: thinking about that. I live like twenty five minutes away.

669
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: So it's either wait for the next showing, find a

670
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: different movie to watch, go home, which is unlikely because

671
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: I got nothing else to do. So I'll have to see.

672
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 2: Do you have a lot of friends outside of this

673
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 2: one friend that abandoned you.

674
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: I'd say I have like six good friends and maybe

675
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: ten people outside of that that I like. And out

676
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: of those sixteen people, two of them I would die for.

677
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 2: Oh that's great, I mean, that's that's okay. So you're

678
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: not You're not a taker to leave a guy. You

679
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: You're a guy I know, I know who you are.

680
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: You're a guy who is taker to leave it. Because

681
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: I'm I I empathize with this. I'm kind of this

682
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: guy too, where you're like, I do not give a

683
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 2: fuck about like much just most things. I don't care

684
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: about most fucking things. But there are things in this

685
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: world and people in this world that I care about

686
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: so deeply and so much.

687
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah for lack. Yeah, I mean I said I

688
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: said I would die for two of them. I mean, realistically,

689
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: i'd probably die for billions of the people on the planet.

690
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: Really yeah, I just there's so much potential in people.

691
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: But there's two people that, like, right now, if they

692
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: were both here, gunman came in, I'm like, you can

693
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: shoot me. It's cool.

694
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: So are you do you like to be alive? Are

695
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: you like a taker? Are you like I could take

696
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: or leave being alive? Or do you like being alive?

697
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: I love being alive?

698
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: Man, That's cool.

699
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: I mean I wake up. That's one of my biggest

700
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: pet peeves is like people that don't value their life. Mm.

701
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: There's there's people that I don't know if you worked

702
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: many retail drops, but there's people you meet that work

703
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 1: at retail drops for such a long time and they're

704
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: just such like agitated, angry people. But like you're only

705
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: working eight hours a day, man, Like the rest of

706
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: your day is so free. The rest of your life

707
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: is so free, Like you just have you just have

708
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: to figure out what you want and then achieve it

709
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: day by day.

710
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: You know, you you work at a grocery store, right,

711
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 2: mm hmm. Wait, I feel like I didn't fully get

712
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: into your goals for the future. I feel like we

713
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: change subject too fast.

714
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: But what do you mean in goals wise, like you

715
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: want to do art, that's that's what that's like, a

716
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: bigger picture dream. Okay, if you like a short term goal.

717
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to be consistently happy and

718
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: financially well.

719
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, and you feel you're pretty happy right now?

720
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean not happy. I'm happy when I'm sad.

721
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: You know you're happy to what the who tell me

722
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: more about you're happy when you're sad.

723
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: I like being sad is is a feeling. And I'm

724
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: happy knowing that I have the ability to feel sad

725
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: because I know I will be happy again.

726
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm sorry.

727
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm a very I'm a very interested person. So I'm

728
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: very comfortable.

729
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: Perspective person, introspective person. Yeah no, don't you know, don't

730
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: apologize for anything. I think that's genius. I think you're

731
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 2: I think that's that's makes that makes so much sense

732
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: that it pisses me off.

733
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it doesn't work for a lot of people,

734
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: but I think at that level of thinking works for me.

735
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: Dude, I'm telling you no, no, you know you no, No,

736
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 2: you make perfect sense. I'm telling you. I like I dude,

737
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: this is the this is what I like I didn't

738
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: tell you I need I feel. One of my big

739
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: problems is I need my My homeostasis has so many

740
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: requirements to it that it fucks me up, you know

741
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 2: what I mean. That's I'm noticing a lot of different.

742
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm learning a lot from you. I really am. Because

743
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: you're smart, because you figured out this version of your

744
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: own homeostasis where you don't even need to be happy

745
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: to be happy. That's crazy. I know exactly what you

746
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: mean by that. By the way, Yeah, I'm in my

747
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: head and I'm like, I totally need to be happy

748
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: to be happy.

749
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: No, it's not an easy place to get to. Honestly,

750
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 1: I like it. Last week after my breakup, I felt

751
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: like an extreme amount of heartache. Yeah, I've never felt

752
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: that way in my life. My heart genuinely hurt. Yeah,

753
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: but I was so happy, Oh my god, that I

754
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: was in pain because the alternative is like, you feel nothing,

755
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: and then what's the point of being alive if you

756
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: feel nothing? Like to feel is so good?

757
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: Oh? Really?

758
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

759
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: Oh god, dude, you're so correct. You're fucking no, No,

760
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: you really this, You're so correct. I really do believe you.

761
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: I mean, if you can this is very like stoic philosophy. Ship.

762
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: This is very like. I literally can't control what happens

763
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: to me or how I feel, but I can control

764
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: my own like like your layers deep, You're like, I

765
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: can control my own perceptions about my feelings, and I

766
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: can like choose to enjoy the feeling of pain and

767
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: sadness and heartbreak because it means I'm alive and I care.

768
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: There's some deep ship, dude.

769
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not.

770
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 2: Maybe send me, send me this picture, Send me this

771
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: picture of what you're looking at. You gotta send me

772
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 2: this picture.

773
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: Well let me. I'm gonna put you on speaker for

774
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: one quick sec.

775
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: All right, I want to see if I can spot

776
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: any like popcorn kernels on the ground. We're at forty

777
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: seven minutes on this conversation. I was just joking when

778
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: I said initially that we're going to do the whole

779
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 2: podcast just you missing this movie. But I think we're

780
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: gonna do it. I think we're going to try to. Well,

781
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: here we go. Oh look at this, did you get it?

782
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: I got it? Okay, you were looking at a trailer. Wait,

783
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: these are old Okay, you're looking at it. These are

784
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,919
Speaker 2: like old posters.

785
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Pirates of the Caribbean, Legends, Lord of the Rings,

786
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Return of the King.

787
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Pirates of the Caribbean, Legends of the Fall,

788
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 2: and Lord of the Rings. And then that's your knee

789
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: right there.

790
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: Correct, and my crocs, fuzzy crocs all that.

791
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: Dude, it's so funny looking at this picture because it's

792
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: it kind of looks like you went to watch the

793
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: back Rooms and then you were like, this is fucking stupid.

794
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: Why would I watch a movie of this when I

795
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: can just be in a room that looks like that.

796
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sitting in a limited space talking to an

797
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: imaginary fake therapist lizard. I mean, it's got to be

798
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: better than some movie.

799
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: Wait, can you do me a favor? Can you do

800
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: me a favor?

801
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: For sure?

802
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I see in this picture that there's a Starewell,

803
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: yeah that is that is locked. Okay, you can't go

804
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: in there.

805
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did see a few employees go in there.

806
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: I think that's where they keep the snacks and ship.

807
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: Really, did you get any snacks before you came and

808
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 2: went into the theater.

809
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: N I'm ana Either I'll eat before or I'll just

810
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: bring a water bomble like I can't afford the fucking movie.

811
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: Peter Snacks.

812
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: No, you don you strike me as the kind of

813
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 2: guy that raw dogs the movie.

814
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: I've raw dog a lot of things. I'm like, oh

815
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: my god, A lot of people think I'm weird. I

816
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: don't listen to music. Okay, if I'm in the car,

817
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: I'll listen to a podcast, like all my way to

818
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: the movies right now is listening to your most recent episode.

819
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: I'll listen to a podcast. If I'm done with the podcast,

820
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: I'll then sit in and ride the rest of the

821
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: time in silence. If I have no other podcasts, I'll

822
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: just listen to silence when I go to the gym.

823
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: Don't bring headphones, don't listen to things. And I've been

824
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: cold weird by so many people. But I'm like, sometimes

825
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: the music it just clogs your brain, like you can't

826
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: free flo out.

827
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: Dude, that's the point.

828
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: I know.

829
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're but you've established you've established that your

830
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: thoughts don't hurt you.

831
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

832
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: You've established that your thoughts. Yeah, you've established that your

833
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: thoughts don't hurt you, and thus you have no you

834
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: have no reason to avoid them with podcasts, Yeah, I'm

835
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 2: learning so much from me. I'm being I'm learning so

836
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 2: much from you. I'm at a point I can't, like

837
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 2: I fall asleep with a podcast on, Like I can't

838
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: fucking stay. I've learned to like I've kind of tricked

839
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: myself as like I can't stand quiet anymore, Like I

840
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: always got to be around people or around stimulus or

841
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: else depress me.

842
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 1: Oh, not the depression part, but I have that issue too,

843
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: where like I need a stimuli. Yeah, but there's some

844
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: things like for me in the car, because I'm like

845
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: a to B, I like there's a direction to it.

846
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: I have a super easy time just letting go of

847
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: that and only focus on the driving.

848
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

849
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: Man, it's so much better your stimulating. Yeah, and just

850
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: my own thinking and or lack of like sometimes it's

851
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: just completely blank in my head and it's Man, it's

852
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: so much more peaceful than like listening to the same

853
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: song for the hundredth of time or listening to a

854
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: really shitty podcast.

855
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: Okay, you sent me another image. I see this is okay.

856
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: You're looking directly at the recycling bin. Yeah, for the

857
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 2: three D glasses.

858
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird. There's no three D movies out,

859
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: but they have this bin in the middle of the hall.

860
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 2: Are you Are you right near that bin?

861
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: I am, I have.

862
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: There's no three D movies out now. Could you do

863
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: me a favor? And is you don't have to do that?

864
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 2: You know, I'm not the boss you, but I'm just curious.

865
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: Do you do a favor for you to check if

866
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: there's any glasses in there?

867
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: I want you to check if there's any glasses in

868
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: Let me check in there, okay, because it would make

869
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: it wouldn't make sense for there to be glasses.

870
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: If there's garbage in there.

871
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: There's garbage in there.

872
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: You have someone through their popcorn and looks like a

873
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: large drink.

874
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: What the fuck?

875
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, some kind of clown.

876
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: I guess that's for glasses.

877
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Bro, that's a.

878
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: Special kind of you know, I don't you know the

879
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,879
Speaker 2: whole You know, the guy who I've talked about before,

880
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: the guy who like shames people for not putting their

881
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: grocery cart back.

882
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, cartnark, the.

883
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: Cart narks guy. He's I think he's evil, but I

884
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 2: can't look away from his videos. But that that that's

885
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: like a there's certain forms of social intrusion that I'm like,

886
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: you know, all right, that's like throwing away popcorn and

887
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: soda into the three D glasses recycling bin is is

888
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: quite the obtuse act of social intrusion.

889
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if I saw someone do it, and

890
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: probably when I'm done talking to you, I'll probably throw

891
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: out their trash in the trash souse. That's just like,

892
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: it makes no sense.

893
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 2: Wait, you're are you? Wait? You're going to take their

894
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 2: trash out of the three D glasses bin and put

895
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: it into the real trash.

896
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: Why not? It saves a little bit of time for

897
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: doing people working here, And it's also kind of gross

898
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: that they would like those glasses get reused.

899
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: Are there are there glasses? Where are their glasses in

900
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: there amongst the trash?

901
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: No, it's completely empty. There's just a popcorn thing and

902
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: they h and a drink.

903
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, okay, now, okay, now I'm real, Okay,

904
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 2: I'm reevaluating it now. I'm thinking it through. If there

905
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: truly is no three D movie that could very well

906
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 2: just be there genuinely as a trash.

907
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Can No, I don't think so.

908
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: You don't think so, but you don't have to. I

909
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: don't I don't think. I don't think you have to

910
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: go in there and like like you don't have to

911
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: take care. Also, it's like, I mean there's a okay,

912
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: you said there's a drink in there, and there's you

913
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: said there's a drinking there, and there's popcorn in there. Yeah,

914
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: how strown about? Is it? Is it like all over

915
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 2: the place is fucked up? Or is it that kind

916
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 2: of like one clean reach in, grab it throat?

917
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a clean reach in.

918
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: Okay. If it's a clean reachin, then I mean, you

919
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: don't have to but it's.

920
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 1: Not gonna take anything out of my life and it'll

921
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: make someone else's lives easier.

922
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 2: So, dude, who are you? What's your name? Howard?

923
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my middle name.

924
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: I've never met a I've talked to thousands of people

925
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: on this show. I feel like it's a bit of

926
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: a bull I've maybe I've met I actually know, maybe

927
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: I've met people who are a little bit like you.

928
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: But I'm so impressed by you, Howard. I'm so you're

929
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 2: really You're You're really making me rethink everything I know

930
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 2: about life in this hour that we've spent with you,

931
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 2: not watching this movie.

932
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: That means a lot jack.

933
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: You need for you? You need for nothing. That's not true.

934
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: You you like you know, I need for a lot.

935
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 2: You need for a.

936
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: Lot of yea or no? No, I shouldn't think. No.

937
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: I probably want for a lot, but I need for

938
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: almost nothing. Oh okay, Yeah, I mean there's everyone has

939
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: like wants.

940
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 2: You're very good at holding this is actually this is

941
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 2: a life skill that is required of like all kind

942
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: of introspective people that I feel like you're really good

943
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: at is You're very good at holding conflicting truths.

944
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I that's a way to a

945
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: stronger truth within yourself. You know. I think you have

946
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 1: to be willing to accept that we're all contradictions constantly.

947
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: We're all hypocritical, you know, So everything about me is hypocritical,

948
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 1: and it's also a singular truth.

949
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 2: The whole time, I'm going to probably go see back

950
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: rooms at some point, I don't know when or I want.

951
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. I could take or leave it. But

952
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: if I do see it, the whole time, I'm going

953
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 2: to be thinking, is this better or worse than this

954
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: conversation that we're having right now? It could be way better.

955
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 2: I mean it costs a lot more money. It costs

956
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: millions of dollars. It costs millions of dollars more to

957
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: make the back rooms than it did for us to

958
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: have this conversation. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's better.

959
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: Exactly. I think a good conversation is worth more than

960
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 1: any amount of money or success.

961
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: We have three minutes left until we've successfully had you

962
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: on for the entire podcast. That you miss your movie to.

963
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: Daunting accomplishment might be the most important thing I've done

964
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 1: all day.

965
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: Well, okay, before we go, what else should we know

966
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: about you? Howard? What do you want to leave us with?

967
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: The floor is yours?

968
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, talk to more people, experience more things,

969
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: even in Like is mundaneity a word like the mundane

970
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,959
Speaker 1: nature of your life? Like? There's things out there, yeah,

971
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: that are more interesting if you think about it and

972
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: pursue it totally.

973
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: What do you What are you going to? What do

974
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: you we are you gonna do the rest of the day? Oh,

975
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: we already talked about that.

976
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: It's eight forty four. I'm in New Jersey, so I'm

977
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: and eat E S T. I don't know, I'll probably

978
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: go to sleep too late, wake up too early, go

979
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: to work, have too much caffeine.

980
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 2: Do you have work?

981
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: I do?

982
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: What time?

983
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: I work every day? At eight am?

984
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 2: Like everything every day is in seven days a week?

985
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: No, no, I I have two days off, but every

986
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: day i'm out. Work is that you do.

987
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: At until.

988
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: Four thirty pm?

989
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: Do you like the job? I asked, because you're a

990
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: people person, it sounds like you interact with a lot

991
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: of people.

992
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm actually getting I just got a promotion. I'm

993
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: starting a new level of job shortly some next few months.

994
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: Dude, I listen, I haven't had a guest I haven't

995
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: had like a celebrity rapper guest person. I'm just thinking

996
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: this right now. I'm gonna I'm thinking about it a lot.

997
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: I haven't had a celebrity guest rapper person on this

998
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: podcast in years. And I'm I'm enjoyed. I've I'm enjoying

999
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: this conversation. I've enjoyed this conversation that I've had with

1000
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: you more than I can imagine having a conversation with

1001
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 2: like some celebrity guest person.

1002
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: That means a lot.

1003
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: This is a good this is I don't know, I

1004
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: don't know why I'm I've this is one of my

1005
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: favorite conversations I've had on this podcast in a while.

1006
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: I don't know why this feels right, This feels like,

1007
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 2: this feels like what this show was supposed to be

1008
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: is us talking for an hour while you miss this movie.

1009
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: You can have me back anytime.

1010
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: Get So, are you gonna go home? Or are you

1011
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: gonna go see a different movie?

1012
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: Still? I haven't thought about it, to be honest. Okay,

1013
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm still here with you, man.

1014
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's be in the present together.

1015
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: Two four people are going into theater thirteen. I wonder

1016
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: what they're going to see?

1017
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 2: What are they gonna say? What does it say on

1018
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: the outside of the theater thirteen?

1019
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: Yea, AMC doesn't do that anymore. They just play ads

1020
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: the whole time. They don't like show you what what

1021
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: theater has things. It's kind of like corporate slop.

1022
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: Howard.

1023
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a.

1024
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the

1025
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?

1026
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 1: I would love to shout out something. It has nothing

1027
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: to do with me, but it's a it's an event

1028
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: I go to in New Jersey.

1029
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: Oh, you can plug whatever you want.

1030
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: Cool, So there's if there's any other people in the

1031
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: Tri State area that enjoy horror movies. There's an event

1032
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: called Midnight Madness every other Saturday, run by this dude

1033
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,959
Speaker 1: named Chris, and he's probably one of the best people

1034
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: I've ever met. And I don't even know that much

1035
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 1: about him, but he has such a passion for showing

1036
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: people new things and like teaching them about niche movies

1037
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: and stuff. I mean, I've seen some shit I genuinely hated,

1038
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: but because I was around other people, I think, like,

1039
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: we're all seeing this weird movie from the eighties that

1040
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: no one's ever heard of. It's a good experience. So

1041
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: I highly recommend checking that out. His Instagram is like

1042
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: I think it's tape. Hell like video tape hell.

1043
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, just tape hell.

1044
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like I think it's tape underscore hell hell.

1045
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to find the tape underscore hell oh Chris. Yeah, Okay,

1046
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: I got him. Okay, sick Are you going to the

1047
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: next one?

1048
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 1: I I should be. It's it's I don't go every time,

1049
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 1: but I go most of them no matter what it is.

1050
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: It's just like it's such a fucking sick event.

1051
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: Okay, the next one is the next one after this

1052
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: okay tape underscore. Hell, the next one after this is

1053
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: June six well, next one that the next one after

1054
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: this podcast airs is June sixth, SATURNA Are you gonna?

1055
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 2: Are you going? Are you going to June sixth? I

1056
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: should be Okay, dude, if anyone listens to this podcast

1057
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: that goes what is in New Jersey? Yeah, it's in

1058
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: resid This looks awesome.

1059
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 1: It's super cool. The dude who runs it, like I said,

1060
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: he's like I've seen him at the event a lot.

1061
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: I've never hung out with him, barely even talked to him,

1062
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: but like the passion that he brings to the ship

1063
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: is it's it feels so much so I enjoy it

1064
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: every time I go, regardless of it, even if I

1065
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: like the movie and everyone around you is like some

1066
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: of them are weirdos and loners, but all the people

1067
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: are so unique and like talking to strangers is so fun.

1068
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: It's also a small art house theater, so I always

1069
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: got to support local business and stuff like that.

1070
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: You should hold a side event in the whole way

1071
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: of the theater as well for you to just you know,

1072
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: kind of hang out, get get a group of people together.

1073
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: If anyone goes, I'll wear I have a bright orange

1074
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: speaking of Marty Supream, I have a bright orange speak

1075
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: Marty Supreme hat. It's a giants hat, New York Giants hat.

1076
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 1: I will wear that. If anyone goes, come talk to me.

1077
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: I would I would love to talk to you.

1078
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 2: Okay, please, I'm really hoping that at least one person

1079
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 2: from this podcast goes to the June sixth Midnight Madness

1080
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: movie screening and finds you wearing the bright orange Giant's

1081
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: hat and talks to you. Let me know if that happens.

1082
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: Send me like a folk, send me like a yeah,

1083
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: send me a text on here, or or send an email.

1084
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: Send an email to the therapy get goo mail at

1085
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 2: gmail dot com. Email that way I can read about

1086
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: it on the show.

1087
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: Let me see what's the email.

1088
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: Therapy gecko mail at gmail dot com.

1089
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: Cool. I'll let you know. Brother.

1090
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: All right, Howard, this was uh, this was good, this

1091
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 2: was real good.

1092
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: I agree?

1093
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 2: Thanks for thanks for missing the movie.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it such a weird experience that uh, like, had

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01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: Butterfly fac ship, like, had my friend not ditched me,

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Speaker 1: I would have missed your call because I was I

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: was scrolling Reddit when you called. I would have missed

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01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: your call. We wouldn't have talked. Potentially, there's a person

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01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: I meet in two weeks at that event, and we

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01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: become the best friends ever and we conquered the world.

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01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: Isn't that a not a crazy little thing that would

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01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: have never happened?

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Speaker 2: God, I someone please go go visit Howard. I need

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01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 2: to I need this butter and we need to see

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01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: how far the threads of this butterfly effect go.

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01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: Man, I might become president.

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01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 2: I'd vote for you.

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01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: I've well, actually, you know, I haven't done nearly as

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01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: bad as things as alternatives. But we'll say, all right, Howard,

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Speaker 1: you got a show coming up around around here anytime.

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Speaker 2: Soon, Philadelphia and New York August fucking I'm doing Philadelphia

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01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 2: August twenty eighth, and I'm doing New York August twenty ninth.

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01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 2: Come through.

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01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: I will be there on my birthday a week prior.

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01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: So it's a little try, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, send me a DM I'll give you,

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01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 2: or send me an email. I'll give you a free ticket.

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Speaker 1: That's very kind of you, of course. All right, brother,

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Speaker 1: I am I'm gonna figure out what's going on. With

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Speaker 1: the rest of my life now a movie or not.

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01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: And uh and I hope you have a great rest

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01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: of your life. If I never talked to.

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Speaker 2: You again, you're too hard. I'll see you around the universe.

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01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: See you around the universe, the cyber space, everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Baby by Howard, He's oh fuck, oh wait no he

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01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: said peace. Okay, I thought I cut him off. Well

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01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: that was that was dude. Shout out to Howard. What

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01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 2: a homie he he he he. He wins over the

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Speaker 2: crowd and and then uses it to shout out someone

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01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 2: else that he's not even he doesn't even really know that. Well,

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01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 2: he uses his charm to plug something from someone else,

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01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 2: so he doesn't even know that. Well, what a hero

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 2: that you know what? That was what this podcast should be.

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01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: If this is your first time listening, or you're whatever,

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01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 2: eighth time listening or sixty one hundredth time listening, this

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01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: was good. This is why I keep going, so that

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01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 2: we can we can have we can have these experiences.

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01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: I'm inspired. I'm gonna go buy a ticket for something

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01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: and then not go into the thing. Thank you guys

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Speaker 2: very much for listening. Thank you again, Howard. My name

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01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 2: is Lyle. I'm a Gecko. I'll mention again I'm on

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01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: tour doing live therapy Gecko shows. You can get tickets

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01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: at Therapy Gecko Tour dot com. I'm coming to the

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Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest soon, Seattle, Portland, Vancouver, San Francisco, Minneapolis, Airpy

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Speaker 2: Ghetto tour dot com. And uh, if you want to

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01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 2: call the show, I haven't figured out how to fix

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01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:12,640
Speaker 2: the fucking about the info part of the podcast, but uh,

1148
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:14,640
Speaker 2: if you want to call the show, it's a you

1149
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: just follow me on Instagram and uh, I'll make a story.

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 2: It's Instagram dot com, slash lyle the number four. Ever,

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01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: I usually make a story when I'm taking phone calls.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't stream them live that much anymore. But uh, yeah,

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01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: that's it. I think that's it. I think we're good.

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: I think we did a podcast. I'm ready to stop

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Speaker 2: talking now. Thank you all for joining me on this experience,

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01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: and I will see you all around the universe. Get

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 2: Blessin goes on the line, taking your phone calls every

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01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: night again, goes to ta