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Speaker 3: just think it's funny with Fashion Week, like we've ruined.

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Speaker 1: We ruined every dope thing that gets attention the world. Okay,

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Speaker 1: art Basil was about art. That changed pretty fucking quick.

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Speaker 3: My escorts.

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Speaker 1: Now, fashion Week was a cool thing for people that

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Speaker 2: It's because everything is visual now. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: That's just everybody don't doesn't have to have their hand

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Speaker 1: The fashion world is very snobby and that it definitely

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Speaker 3: I feel you.

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Speaker 2: That's why I said I was trying to, you know,

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Speaker 1: Can we stop ruining great cultural things right right? It

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean you know certain times you hang

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Speaker 2: No, because you're a brother. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: And I'm not about to bounty hunter me. What's his name?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, like we've adopted you he did. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to find new ways. We did the

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Speaker 2: Well I'm glad you had that is. My experience wasn't

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Speaker 1: So that was a good It was a real good documentary.

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Speaker 3: He's on there for me. Grandpoo Ba is on there

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Speaker 1: Even if a Z just put out Do or Die

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 3: It's a lot of a lot of good music out.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, I just didn't receive that heart the

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Speaker 1: It's stand culture that we've talked about already, like and

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Speaker 1: they just took one fucking little ass clip from it

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Speaker 3: That's what we're here to do.

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Speaker 1: That the same way I scream at fucking Steven am

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Speaker 1: X about I've done they sound certain times. I got

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Speaker 6: That's the dumbest shit ever the entire episode, Like, oh

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Speaker 3: It happens all the time and a lot of the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, you can never go to Toronto again.

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Speaker 2: I can go for you, you know how, FaceTime you

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't think I was disrespectful. I didn't listen

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: You wasn't disrespectful.

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Speaker 2: It was It's a it was a little hot, came

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Speaker 3: There's Prince albums I don't like.

441
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Speaker 2: There's Prince albums. I don't like this, Prince Records. I

442
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,840
Speaker 2: don't like this Michael Jackson Records that I don't like

443
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 2: it I'm just it is, it's the truth. It's certain

444
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,399
Speaker 2: Michael records, So I'm like, okay, Mike could have kept

445
00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:58,199
Speaker 2: this one in the files.

446
00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,360
Speaker 3: But you know, that's Mike.

447
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Speaker 1: And here's the thing that I can only understand the

448
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,400
Speaker 1: art is being upset about it because it is their art,

449
00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 1: and I can appreciate that you were that vulnerable to

450
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,920
Speaker 1: put your art out and it's got a sting because

451
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 1: that's your baby. I don't care how long you've been

452
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 1: doing it, that's still your art and it must really

453
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,679
Speaker 1: suck to hear people critique it. But that's unfortunately the

454
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:21,000
Speaker 1: yin and yang of art. It's supposed to be talked

455
00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,360
Speaker 1: about and it's not supposed to be talked about well

456
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 1: all the time. That's not what that sentence is. So

457
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 1: if they get mad, of course, I understand that they're fans.

458
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:34,280
Speaker 1: Though listen, man, you gotta know what that was coming.

459
00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 1: Though we knew that was gonna happen.

460
00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,000
Speaker 7: People agreed with you a lot of people.

461
00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, But when we came in we spoke about it.

462
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 2: I told you, I was surprised at how many people

463
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,840
Speaker 2: didn't like the project.

464
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 3: Like I was just like, damn, Like, okay, well you know.

465
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: There's very few art ever, not just music, art ever

466
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: that's universally loved that happens.

467
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,880
Speaker 3: Like a couple times in a generation.

468
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Speaker 1: The way that keeps art going is the fact that

469
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 1: all of us either like it or don't and can

470
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 1: talk about why we like it or don't like as

471
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 1: long as you're not disrespectful.

472
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 3: What's the problem? Yeah, I agree, I agree.

473
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 1: That's the point of what we're doing here. Podcasting. It's

474
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: not the highest form of art, but it is an art.

475
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 1: M y'all sit here and tear it apart, non fucking stop,

476
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 1: as you fucking should. I saw everyone tear me apart. Yep, good,

477
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 1: tear my opinion apart. That's what this conversation was about.

478
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for you'a to agree with me, and

479
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 1: if you do, cool, But this is this entire thing

480
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 1: that we're doing here, everything we went through with us

481
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 1: versus Joe shit, tear it apart. This is what this

482
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 1: whole thing is. It sucks that it was a real thing,

483
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, this our art is to the public. The

484
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: public is allowed to talk about it. It's a public forum.

485
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 1: We're doing this for the public. It's not just you

486
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,439
Speaker 1: and I talking and not recording it. It's being recorded

487
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 1: for people. So is music when you paint something up there.

488
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't like how that looks. I don't listen listen.

489
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 1: Like I said, I've.

490
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 3: Been really angry lately. I promise listeners, it's gonna change. No, no, no, no,

491
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: You're you're fine. Listen. Like I said, you can't go

492
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 3: to Toronto therapist. I'm gonna be okay, I can't. You

493
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:05,879
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

494
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna bring you back a nice key chain

495
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: from Toronto. I'll bring you back a raptist Jersey.

496
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: I really like you. It is what it is. And

497
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 3: I really like Drake Listen, listen. We love Drake Man.

498
00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 3: That's we don't We don't have to say that. He

499
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 3: knows that.

500
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: But into into new more new music. Eric Bellinger. Yeah,

501
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: put on a new project, New Light. Really feeling that

502
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: Eric Bellinger. It's hard for him to make a project

503
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: that I don't like. I realized that and listening to this,

504
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:31,680
Speaker 2: to this.

505
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: Album, Eric Bellinger's funny brought up currency because I've always

506
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: found Eric Bellinger to be like the R and B Currency,

507
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: Like they put out consistent so much stuff and it's

508
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 1: never bad. Yeah, they know the right type of sound

509
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: they want for themselves, the experiment where it needs to happen, and.

510
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 3: They're the same to me as far as their their

511
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: careers go.

512
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: And shout out to Smoke Disney Man. I've been listening

513
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 2: to a lot of Smoke Disser lately. I don't think

514
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: enough people are talking about Smoke Dizzer. I mean, I

515
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 2: think that he's been He's been super consistent.

516
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 3: He's consistently gotten better.

517
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 4: You know.

518
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 2: I just just just feel like I had to say

519
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: that I had to I had to give this just has.

520
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: Been putting out quality music.

521
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: This has been torn, this has been making bread. I

522
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: think a lot of times back to the fan thing.

523
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: We always want to give the artists we love their

524
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: flowers and their credit, and it's like, no, y'all need

525
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 1: to this guy's been making amazing music.

526
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: No one's paying attention. You feel as a fan, you

527
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 3: got to like pump that shit up.

528
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: For a lot of artists, sometimes it's better just to

529
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: have that fan base that knows and if they know,

530
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: they know you're gonna stay rich, you're gonna continue to

531
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: put out the product you want to put out and chill.

532
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,439
Speaker 1: It's when you have to cater to all these other

533
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: different fan bases that you end up compromising shit you

534
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: want to do and going into spaces of fickle fans

535
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: that will only be there for a moment. Sometimes it's

536
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: cool just for everyone not to know the people that know, no,

537
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to be fine in my house making money

538
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 1: because of it. And this is one of those people,

539
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: because this has been making amazing music and gets his

540
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: accolades from from the people I know that he deems

541
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: matters right.

542
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 3: And everything is cool. Yeah, he just you.

543
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: Know, it's just when you see guys that are just

544
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: doing their thing and staying in their lane and really

545
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 2: dominating and getting better, Like you got to respect that.

546
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: Anytime I see somebody working and doing something and you

547
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: notice that they're getting better and they're staying consistent, and

548
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: you know that they're staying true to their art and

549
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: who they are. And if you know Smoke, you know,

550
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he's been the same cool dude

551
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: since forever.

552
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

553
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that has anything bad to say

554
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: about Smoke. I wanted to give him Huh, you're weird

555
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: if you do.

556
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

557
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like so it was like, let me

558
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 2: I gotta give I had to give him his love man,

559
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 2: like he's I've been listening to his a lot of

560
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: his ship man, and he's I'm just like, damn, Like,

561
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't feel like people are talking about

562
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: smoke enough like he's been. He's been killing shit well

563
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 2: a lot of times. Ransom as well. Ransom has been

564
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: pulling out a bunch of heat. Flea Lord, It's just

565
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: a lot of It's a lot of dudes like in

566
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: their own lane, in their own pocket, doing their own

567
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: thing that I think is really really dope.

568
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: Man. It's like a really good time for hip hop

569
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 3: and rap.

570
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: A lot of guys are taking control of their own ship,

571
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 2: their own brand, stepping out, trying different things.

572
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 3: Like I like that. I like that energy that's that's

573
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: going on right now.

574
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 1: I just like people like Ransom, dis A Fleet, and

575
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: I just watched the Asheroth Blue and Mickey on Drink Champs.

576
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: Like all those people that were first through the door

577
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: with the Internet era, it looked, it looked dim for

578
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: a while just because of how the industry works. I'm

579
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: so happy they're now seeing the fruits of their labor

580
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: and being the first people to set this blueprint because

581
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: they were the first one through the door, and that's

582
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: always the one that's probably not going to benefit the most,

583
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: and then the next generation did. So to see them

584
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: still here, still making great music and finally being able

585
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: to really get what they just deserve financially and credit

586
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: wise is great. That Drink Championship of watching the Asher,

587
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: Blue and Mickey was like full circles, Like I remember

588
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: in eight when these were.

589
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: The blog guys.

590
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then everyone went to the blogs and they

591
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: got they got flooded out and pushed out once the

592
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: machine found out. Wait, people are on the internet and

593
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: they're still kicking. They're still doing great, they're still making music,

594
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: they're still relevant because they were the ones that actually

595
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: knew what they were doing. They weren't all right, we

596
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: need to make a rapper pop, let's put them on

597
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: the blogs. No, they was on the blogs. Everyone else

598
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: benefited afterwards. So it warms my heart bit to see

599
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: people like them, Ransom and everyone getting this shit still

600
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. Absolutely two thousand and eight, and

601
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: shout out to rock Ranch because he was he was

602
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: one of the few, one of the first ones that

603
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: really like kept that sound alive.

604
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 3: Like that real grime, grimy.

605
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: Rap, hardcore shit, street shit like rock Masciano was. He was,

606
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: He was the one that really did it, and I

607
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: think with Griselda came and did, they really magnified it

608
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: and blew it out the frame. But yeah, shout out

609
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: to all of the dudes that's doing their thing, man.

610
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: I like the energy around rap right now. I think

611
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: it's a lot of dope artists that's doing they thing,

612
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 2: that's been doing anything for years and they're finally getting

613
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 2: that recognition. So shout out to them. Sorry, the kid

614
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 2: put out another project. I told him, I said, God,

615
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: every time I turn around, I fel like you put

616
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: out another project, another dope project from him alone, but

617
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: not lonely. It's a lot of good music out, a

618
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: lot a lot of good music out man. I think

619
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 2: music is in a good space.

620
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: I've seen you put that tweet out that I was

621
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: up late night off the number given relationship advice.

622
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, to let the people know that because a

623
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: lot of people thought that you know that number was fake,

624
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 2: that that's not us messages and responding that is us.

625
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: We are reading these messages, we are responding when we can.

626
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: Rory will be giving you a relationship advice at all hours,

627
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 2: at all hours. Recipes. He has salt and pepper ready

628
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: for you if you don't know how to know how

629
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: much pepper? Yeah, not too much. Also just very very

630
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: art today that you like playing chicken, I'm your guy. Yeah,

631
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, you're up there for that. A lot

632
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: of people said they wanted to demeris you have some of.

633
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 5: The shots you guys sent me so. A girl named

634
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 5: Janey says, Yo, Rory and Mal tell my man to

635
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 5: stop following bitches on Instagram. When he goes out to

636
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 5: the club with the guys. He won't listen to me,

637
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 5: but he listens to everything y'all say.

638
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: Please no follow them bitches. Wait, so is he going out?

639
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: And then when he follows them when he's out.

640
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: There, Yeah, he want to see them in person if

641
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 2: they look you know what I mean? He doing it right,

642
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: I mean like, hey, follow what's his name?

643
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: What's her name? Janey?

644
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 8: Yes?

645
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: You tripping? Let him followed? Let him follow them chicks?

646
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: Man like ship. He holl them.

647
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 1: You don't know what guys not at the club is.

648
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: It can be a really wholesome keep keep me away.

649
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: I only want to look at on the phone.

650
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: One of them might might work at Sacks or something.

651
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: He might be trying to get the discount for you,

652
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: like you never know why he following and mister Janey

653
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: just make like a fensta. I think that's what they're called.

654
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: A friendster.

655
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 3: Whatever her off your other page?

656
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 7: What mall sent me this one? All right?

657
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 5: I went through my girl's phone, like I know I shouldn't.

658
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 5: Haven't seen. She been talking to a nigga who sent

659
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 5: the dick pic to her, and it was way bigger

660
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: than mine. I really can't confront her about it because

661
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 5: it was some sucker ship. But now when we fuck,

662
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 5: I feel like she'd be faking for real.

663
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: Far I do he dm that to me too?

664
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

665
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: First of all, I was really thrown off by that.

666
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: First of all, if you went through your girl's phone

667
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: and saw dick pics in it.

668
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: That's not your girl.

669
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 7: That's not true.

670
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: I mean she could be, she could be yours.

671
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: When Monday theory, I about to say, Monday Tuesday fair?

672
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,959
Speaker 3: Is it unsolicited?

673
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: If women you imagine imagine dude sending your girl unsolicited

674
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: dick pics, that means they comfortable with her.

675
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 7: No, that's not true. That's not true.

676
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: Her phone, how do they have her number?

677
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: Mall co workers be sending dick fix had more context to.

678
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: Her phone, not not to her instagram, not to her DM.

679
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 7: But they could have sent this to her instagram and.

680
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: She saved it. She saved it to a camera roll.

681
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 7: A lot of women share dick pics and group messages.

682
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: But I mean she like it.

683
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 7: No, that's not true.

684
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: Listen, she liked that ship.

685
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, and make fun of it all types of stuff.

686
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: But why you got it in your camera roll? Why

687
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: you saved it? You want to keep looking at that ship.

688
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: And he already said it's way bigger than his. He mean, listen,

689
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: this is a brave show here.

690
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 7: We're not giving him, are you guys?

691
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: No, I was thrown back when I read it. I

692
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: was like, WHOA, all right, I appreciate his honesty for him.

693
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, leave her dumper.

694
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: I need more context, like you saw the dick pic

695
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: and then just didn't say anything and then continued to

696
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: fuck yeah.

697
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 7: He said, now he feels like she's faking.

698
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: You know, he and there trying to he and they're

699
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 2: trying to slam hard to his little dick. He in

700
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: there with that little piece of ship trying to slam hard.

701
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: He and they're trying to work that little piece of ship.

702
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 3: You better leave you wasn't there. You're gonna kill yourself.

703
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna break your fucking pelvic bone trying to man

704
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: get out of here with that little ass piece of ship.

705
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: Man, leave that girl alone. Man, Oh my god, hey,

706
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: get a backbone dumper. Leave her now.

707
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 7: Rory, does the carpet match the drapes?

708
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 3: Tamaris? Next, I ain't even like looking at you when

709
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: you said that they wasn't your carpet matches your drapes.

710
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: Look at what they're asking you hard with floors? Oh,

711
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: they're asking, my god, Rory, some six ship man, I'm

712
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: looking back on and waxed and vexed.

713
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: There's been a lot of women checking that number. Yeah,

714
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: there's been a lot a lot of women.

715
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: Women. Women.

716
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: See the women seem to like my knees, right, they

717
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: like your knees, like my knees. Kid, you look like

718
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: you hating on my knees.

719
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: You don't do do you expose them?

720
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: Her?

721
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: I mean when I wear shorts, you know, I give

722
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: him a.

723
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 7: Means with the.

724
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: You know, when I'm backing like a little a little

725
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: a little floozy.

726
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: Is that one of do you have like an attribute

727
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: that you'd like to show when you're trying to impress

728
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: a woman, get someone.

729
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 6: Out there, my hair. Women like my hands, Okay. Is

730
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 6: there a specific reason they like my hands?

731
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

732
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: Or they just look at them and be like, oh yeah, No,

733
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: they just aesthetically they like my hands. We found some

734
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: uh some footage that we shot in l A a

735
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: few a few months ago.

736
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: Yes, some some more lost files. Yeah.

737
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: When we sat down with Al and hip hop and yes,

738
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: had a real nerdy music conversation. But Al is one of,

739
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: you know, one of the greatest minds and artists that

740
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: we have and producers that we have in our culture,

741
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: and hip hop hip hop is my brother. He's one

742
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: of the you know, young geniuses of the game, uh,

743
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: real great minds A and RS ever, one of the

744
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: greatest an rs ever, one of the greatest people ever

745
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: just to sit and talk talk music with. So we

746
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 2: had a chance to sit down and talk with them

747
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: about some some music.

748
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: And even you're not a music nerd, it's just a

749
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: cool conversation. It's just an interesting conversation that probably people

750
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't film. Like hop don't talk to people, to talk

751
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: to people like they talk to people. Maybe not on camera,

752
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying real life, they talk. It's just

753
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: something that you know typically wouldn't happen. So yeah, even

754
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: if you're not a music nerd.

755
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: I think something that they'll enjoy and uh see a

756
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: different perspective. And we got to get back out there too.

757
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about getting back out there and sitting

758
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: in with that because he's done so much the Boldie

759
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: James project with Alchemists and Boldie al has a bunch

760
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: of new ships. See he's doing the campaign with a

761
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: may Leon. So yeah, man, we got some got some

762
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: more footage for y'all, some some some more stuff in

763
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: the vault.

764
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, should we give it to him now? Let's

765
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: do it cool?

766
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: I mean you bought some.

767
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 9: Very you got even the translation have to talk to

768
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 9: him like they got cash is different.

769
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: That's d R. What happened in d R.

770
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just gotta we got discussion.

771
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 1: Yeahd percent and Justin sent out n D as. I

772
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: was like, should today he sent out the NBA. It's

773
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: been mad days already said already.

774
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, man we here, man, man, listen, man, we just

775
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: want to we want to hear some some some of

776
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: the culture.

777
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 4: Man, I got a couple of you know what I'm saying.

778
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: Talk about some of the inspirational a lot of this

779
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: ship man, because I think he's one of the most

780
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: key figures in the resurgence of what underground, right, you

781
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

782
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: I don't like to call it underground. It's all hip

783
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: hop to me, but yeah, man, we at here a

784
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: man so only wright Be came with you come on,

785
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? So, yeah, we don't we

786
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 4: don't leave here pretty much. It was like the real

787
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: that it's all just regular. It's all just as It's

788
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: not like a studio you could like book, you know

789
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It's never like sessions. There's no it's

790
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 4: like there's no element of like industry. Ever, it almost

791
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: feels like a lot of That's kind of how it started.

792
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: There was a lot of homies who had deals and

793
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: ship but they would come through and it was like

794
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 4: playing hooky from the deal like me and him, Action

795
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: and uh Dom Jennison and Evinced and it was just

796
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 4: like doing the song with that. I remember that night

797
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: we were like, Yo, we're gonna do this and drop

798
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 4: it tomorrow, and I was like, that whole concept was formed.

799
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: I was surprised was rapping. Yeah, how's that? It was

800
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 4: just on the spot, But like at that time, it

801
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: was kind of early and my brain wasn't wrapped around

802
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 4: the fast, like even when I did this shit with currency.

803
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: He wanted to drop that ship the next day, the

804
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: first ship cover Coop, and I was like, yo, you know,

805
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 4: because we're used to the whole take fucking a year,

806
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 4: mixed the album and play in it out three months

807
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 4: when you turn in the master and it was a

808
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 4: new era coming and it was like, dudes was moving fast,

809
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: and I kind of wasn't ready for that ship. So

810
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know, I don't, but I

811
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: remember that night it was your idea. We're like, we're

812
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: going to record this and drop it tomorrow. And then

813
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, that's ill because we should sit around

814
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: and have music for six seven months. Now, I'm like,

815
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: you're dropping it the same. It's like time travel, Like

816
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: we're speeding shit up, making it more real. Do you

817
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 4: like that now? Though?

818
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 2: Like you're going from I'm here, niggas had to fucking

819
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: carry like the tracks to the.

820
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 4: Studio, like, Yeah, I like it better now because it's

821
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 4: more like real time is tighter. Because I always felt

822
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 4: like by the time my album came out, it was like,

823
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 4: damn you on some next ship already. Yeah, it's trying

824
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 4: to promote it. You don't want to sound like a

825
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 4: dick and be like you don't.

826
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: Go to hear you got fired though, Yeah, because I

827
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes you make something in the studio and

828
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: everything sounds great on the bigs and I can put

829
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: it out right away without living with the ship to

830
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: make sure it's really dope, and I just don't have

831
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: the studio itis type shit, and it's like, fuck, it's

832
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: already out. I probably should have listened to a few

833
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: more times.

834
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 4: A good thing about sitting with ship is like certain

835
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: stuff falls to the wayside. But if something been around

836
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 4: for a year and it's still fire, he's pretty much

837
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: you know, like that's one of the ones, you know

838
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 4: what I.

839
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 11: Mean, You think it could be like like a fault

840
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 11: because you don't get the proper like rollout it deserves

841
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 11: because that phone does that shit matter.

842
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 4: It's gonna do depend artist, That's what it's gonna do. Yeah,

843
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 4: And depending who the artist is too.

844
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, some artists need that package.

845
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: But I'm big on presentation, even if it means the

846
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: same night tomorrow dropping.

847
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 13: And also depends on who you are, Like if you're

848
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 13: like someone who doesn't do that, and then you're like, boom,

849
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 13: I just dropped some ship and people, then there's gonna

850
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 13: be people interacting withly just off the strength of that.

851
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 12: It depends if your fan base is there for you

852
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 12: instead of there for the moment.

853
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 4: You could do that type of ship because.

854
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: The fans that are there for the moment need to

855
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: roll out, They need the packaging, they need to be

856
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: reminded this is coming out.

857
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that in itself is a moment though. Yeah.

858
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 14: Like that, I mean you basically say, like if you

859
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 14: don't have fans, yeah, yeah, Like if you're a listener,

860
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 14: is the casual fan.

861
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, you can't play around like that. You need to

862
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 10: let them know. Okay, I'm here, you know what I'm saying, Like,

863
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 10: this is I'm coming.

864
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: There's a lot of artists that sell a lot of

865
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: records that still just have the casual fan.

866
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 12: They still have in the.

867
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: Moment they play the game. Yeah, if you're gonna play

868
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 4: the game, you know what I'm saying that's that's a.

869
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 1: Different If you're chasing the current sound, you're just gonna

870
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: have current in the moment. Fans they're not really growing

871
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: with They're just gonna move on to the next sound

872
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: in the next moment.

873
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 4: But bring in real time is a good thing, I think,

874
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: just because I feel like every time we drop an album,

875
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: it's like we're already on some next ship in the

876
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 4: studio and you hold your lip. You got to be like,

877
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 4: this new ship is crazy, but you really want to

878
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: tell them what's really in the stash. But it's almost

879
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 4: like if you worked at the iPhone factory, you know,

880
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: you have to come home with your family and not

881
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 4: say ship you're looking at the iPhone fifteen or something,

882
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 4: but you're like, yeah, you know, you gotta be quiet

883
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 4: because your head, you gotta things take its time. We

884
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 4: can never drop music at the rate we create. It

885
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: just will never happen, you know.

886
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 13: But when you have to turn around, it always, especially

887
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 13: on the big level, you see that that factor the

888
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 13: inn like is a big part of it. Like what

889
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 13: a time to be alive. You remember it was two

890
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 13: months you can feel them. Niggas was free style and

891
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,479
Speaker 13: it was like, oh, ship bro, this ship is raw?

892
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 13: Or what about how you's this got scrapped? What was

893
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 13: the thing when they ended up doing that and like

894
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 13: that one.

895
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 10: Of the first real surprise releases, like you mean, not

896
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 10: without a without a legit rollout where it's like, oh,

897
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 10: ship a video games out already.

898
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: You know.

899
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 10: It was like you know what I mean because he

900
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 10: pushed it up kind of like what you're saying, like

901
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 10: as much as you could in the mainstream. It was

902
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 10: like he didn't want to do anything that was typical,

903
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 10: Like even through the rhymes, it was like, I don't

904
00:38:55,239 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 10: want a rhyme. I don't want to rhyme, no dope, blinds,

905
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 10: I don't know. He was like, I don't want people

906
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 10: to think about that. I don't Everything was against more music. Yeah,

907
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 10: it was like no melody. It was like yeah, it

908
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 10: was kind of like okay, cool, So on a roll

909
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 10: out he just feel the same way.

910
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: I don't want the album cover. I don't really want

911
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: the video.

912
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 10: Let's just put a video in. Yeah, you know, I

913
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 10: just think this guy shot at me show that I'm

914
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 10: trying to fit on buildings.

915
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I'm saying. So it was like

916
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: it's hard to roll out something you don't even know

917
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: what it is. Like if you're making the same album

918
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: all the time, you'll know how to roll it out

919
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: because it's done already. You make some ship that you've

920
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: never done. I don't know how to make this connect

921
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: to a consumer. I don't know what the fuck it is.

922
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 10: So that's to go left, you know what I mean. Right,

923
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 10: if you got to build it, you know what I'm saying.

924
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 10: You gotta building. Oh you just did that for that, Okay, cool,

925
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. But if you go like

926
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 10: you normally go, you gotta deliver like you normally deliver, right,

927
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying.

928
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 4: So like, okay, let me try this out. Drop it

929
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 4: this way, you know, see what happened. But that's back

930
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 4: to a certain artists though.

931
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody don't have that luxury like ship.

932
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 4: And I'm like, fam, you shouldn't just do what you

933
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: best at be ambitious a lot of artists.

934
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: Anytime my artists doing a press run and they say

935
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: this was like my Prince Experiment album in the trash,

936
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: that's just not anytime they use the Prince example, I'm like,

937
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: I don't do so impress is weird?

938
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: As an artist, it's always been weird just because like

939
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 4: you know, we make music whatever. Now we're also businessmen,

940
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: like we got to sell this ship. But sometimes it

941
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: feels like you're out there trying to sell your ship,

942
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 4: like you know, like there's a thin line between being

943
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 4: thirsty and promoting your ship, you know what I'm saying,

944
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: where it's like, I do you worry about that or

945
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: do you like I just my ship. I gotta promote it.

946
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 4: At the same time, it feels kind of awkward, you

947
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: know what.

948
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 11: I'm saying, Like you have to do it, but sometimes

949
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 11: it's like, damn.

950
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: I wish I didn't have to your iPhone example, Like

951
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: imagine if the guys that are sitting there literally creating

952
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: the iPhone with the ones that had to go sell

953
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: it introverted. We're people that are into design, not supposed to.

954
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: That's why you hire sales reps.

955
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 11: Our A and R should be the one thing thinking

956
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 11: it out.

957
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: That's what you need to talking about. Explain to Shure. Yeah,

958
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 4: I mean the interviews all that ship. But I feel

959
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: like nowadays, I mean a lot of big artists, I

960
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: feel like I don't know how y'all feel like. I mean,

961
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: you guys are a rare thing, and there's certain guys

962
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 4: who like there's like outlets you gotta fuck with that's reputable.

963
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: But big artists they don't got to do that ship anymore.

964
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: Like they don't got to do interviews. They could literally

965
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: use their social media. It's crazy.

966
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 10: You control the narrative now, like option like that before.

967
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, media is revant, But it's

968
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 10: close to that irrelevant as it's been, you know what

969
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 10: I mean. You think of like all the stuff we

970
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 10: had to do. We had to we have to get

971
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 10: on the Battle of the Beats just to.

972
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 4: Get to the into a rotation.

973
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 10: DJ stop taking with you, just to get into a

974
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 10: month they could bring your record up calling people yo

975
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 10: what they said about the wreck, you know what I mean.

976
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: And then you got requests.

977
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 10: It was so much things you're dealing with, and you're

978
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 10: doing that just to get to the video portion of

979
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 10: m TV.

980
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 4: I got a record, got this many spans, you know

981
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 4: what I mean.

982
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 10: You keep doing everything for the next step to get

983
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 10: to the next step, to get to the next step

984
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 10: to hopefully, I guess you get a big head of

985
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 10: your That was.

986
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: Really just it was a whole song and dance. That's

987
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 4: what I had to do to where.

988
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 10: To me, it always always looked at old albums that

989
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 10: I wasn't around for that had an impact on it.

990
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,240
Speaker 10: So it's kind of like, like what was the songs

991
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 10: in the Key of Life Stevie wanted to roll out?

992
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 10: It's irrelevant to me, you know what I'm saying. I

993
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 10: didn't experience it. I don't know what songs came up.

994
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 10: I've got just the project.

995
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 5: You know.

996
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 10: I try to look at the record I make it.

997
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 10: I'm looking at it like somebody gonna get that later,

998
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. So it just gotta be

999
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 10: good for when they do, you know.

1000
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Tap into that joint. That's how you

1001
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: approach making an album with that mentality. Yes, but lately

1002
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: I was thinking differently because we were all talking like,

1003
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: you know, like playlists kind of change shit, even the

1004
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: way you make an album, because like I feel like

1005
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 4: playlists now, like all right, we came up in the

1006
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: era was like an album. The project was an experience

1007
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 4: and you experiencing it the way you made it in

1008
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 4: the order as a thing was like a thing, you

1009
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And now I feel like with playlists,

1010
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: people pick their songs, they make their own shit, and

1011
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: it's kind of like making the art of a whole

1012
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 4: album not as important. I still like there's some artists

1013
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: you expect, like you know he's going to put some

1014
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 4: shit together. But overall, it's kind of like Listen.

1015
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: Like PlayListen took the average amount time in a song down,

1016
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: Like a song used to be three thirty four minutes,

1017
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: two minutes and fifteen seconds now because it'll play list better,

1018
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: it'll stream better. People just keep putting it all round

1019
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: because they're hear it again.

1020
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: Even when I structure an album, sometimes if you put

1021
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 4: an interlude, like a transition between two songs, right, you

1022
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 4: want to make its own I D. So you got

1023
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 4: to connect it to the end of the last song

1024
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: or make it the top of the next song. And

1025
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 4: usually it's relevant to the next song and it sets

1026
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 4: up in that song. But I'm kind of weird. I

1027
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 4: like the song to start. I don't want you to

1028
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 4: sit through that all the time with the I D. So,

1029
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: then that other little piece is going to be connected

1030
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: to the end of the last song. And I've seen

1031
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 4: reviews where kids are confused and ship, like what is

1032
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense. And like, even let's say you

1033
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: take that song and put it in the playlist, it's

1034
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 4: not going to have the next song playing after. It's

1035
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: going to be irrelevant, you know what I mean. But

1036
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: you know, it just made me think about it a

1037
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: little different because all about the.

1038
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,919
Speaker 10: Early when you think about an album as a whole,

1039
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 10: it's like that first listen, you know, you know what

1040
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 10: I'm saying.

1041
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 4: It's kind of like, Okay, I'm going through it and

1042
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: how it is, how wow, piece of work. But the

1043
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: second time around, you pick your joints you want to

1044
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 4: go and you know what I'm saying, like that, or

1045
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: you might just stay on the records, might not finish

1046
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 4: the album.

1047
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 10: You might on the first I was on the in fact,

1048
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 10: you had to taste.

1049
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 4: I was on the First Sight for for months. Like

1050
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. I remember that. I remember

1051
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: with the Ship Bitch.

1052
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 10: Ship was on the album and it wasn't on the credits,

1053
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 10: and I remember a nigga playing it in school.

1054
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: And you don't even know what was on the gym,

1055
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: and I'm like, damn it, but I could never find it.

1056
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1057
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 4: So I'm looking for it, like, Noah, you just got

1058
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 4: let the album play.

1059
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, okay, but three when you

1060
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: put buying three out, I remember the next day and

1061
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: Score was like, hell, did you let the oultro rock?

1062
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 4: That's three more record? I was like did I did it?

1063
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 10: I did it strictly because of that, because of the

1064
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 10: way the crowding were. It was like because it was

1065
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 10: three joints, was that? And it really was. Because the credits.

1066
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 10: It was like the credits because you had to, like,

1067
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 10: like you said, with the timing of it, you had

1068
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 10: to send your credits out first because they had to

1069
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 10: print it up.

1070
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 4: So so yeah, so you had to stick to it.

1071
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 10: So if you had a song that you wanted to add,

1072
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 10: it wasn't going to be in.

1073
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 4: The credits because it yeah, because it was a ready

1074
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: make it. So if you wanted to put it at

1075
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 4: the end, you just have to be like.

1076
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 10: Hey, it's just there and stuff like that. So that's

1077
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 10: kind of like, I guess that's what they did as well.

1078
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 10: I'm thinking you know what I mean. But it was

1079
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 10: weird like that you do the thank You mixed album

1080
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 10: that you want to thank you, thank you for a

1081
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 10: big thing?

1082
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 4: That was a big thank you you being office hot

1083
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: for too much.

1084
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 15: You word us.

1085
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: Definitely on the credits credit. The first album I did,

1086
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: My Ship looked like a book and shi took me

1087
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: two weeks. A little little parentheses, a little special remarks

1088
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 4: to each person, like little inside jokes, you know, Like

1089
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 4: the early albums was like that, like the.

1090
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 16: Game Stars and they really had like full paragraph writing

1091
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 16: out this whole thank you and it's right and like

1092
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 16: yo with the you said with the parent the title.

1093
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 4: Because of that they got the credits on You don't

1094
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 4: know why everybody doesn't do that. I want to look

1095
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 4: at who did what. I want to see that ship

1096
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 4: and listening to the album.

1097
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 12: But you know me back back to the casual consumer streaming, they.

1098
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: Care about the ship credit, which is why even back

1099
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: to you were saying with the whole album experience, these

1100
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: days almost arrogant for an artist to think I'm going

1101
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: to make a full album, To think that people in

1102
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: this day and age give.

1103
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 4: That's my point. The intention Spanish shorter like when's the

1104
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: last time you heard the third verse? Keep it real

1105
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 4: with one scrap, no.

1106
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 15: Feature, when's the last time you heard the third verse?

1107
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 15: I would listen to Old Joy he was just having

1108
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 15: about I was like, it would be like on a

1109
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 15: single like you the.

1110
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 4: Last time, Like we'd be good, we'd be lucky if

1111
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: you bust a second verse, that verse I don't worry

1112
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 4: about out now. I'm that's over. It's been like six years.

1113
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: But imagine that. Though I don't think people get that,

1114
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 4: like you know, make friends of foes and you know

1115
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. I don't know, but I think to

1116
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 4: the time running back, you're running back a hundred times.

1117
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 13: Like my favorite album when I was in like eight

1118
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 13: or ninth grade was.

1119
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 4: Bro the Niggas was Rappers.

1120
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, fifty three just Pepper, very very dense though.

1121
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 4: Little snippets like but a lot second Beastie Boys albums

1122
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 4: like that too, a lot of short juets. I think

1123
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 4: that's like even all the New Guys Detroit stuff of

1124
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 4: Detroit Ship one version out Lucky if you get a hook.

1125
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were talking in the kitchen how Detroit was

1126
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: so known for being in the pocket more than any

1127
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: city ever and now wrapping over the Ship.

1128
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 12: Just one of the three you know possible.

1129
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 13: And Lusen talks a lot on the Army Hammer album

1130
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 13: that You'll Just did about not being able to be

1131
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 13: off beat just because you don't understand what's going on.

1132
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: A white person.

1133
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 12: That makes me feel really good. I didn't know if

1134
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 12: he beat the whole time.

1135
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 13: He's saying he can't lose, saying he can't what he said.

1136
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 13: You haven't mastered. You haven't mastered meet her, So you

1137
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 13: have to respect it. You got to just because that

1138
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 13: ship threw you off, like like, I'm really to keep going.

1139
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: I think it's just like an arrogant style of rap.

1140
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: It's like the beat. Yeah, I know where it's at,

1141
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,959
Speaker 4: I know where the snaars at. I'm gonna lay.

1142
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 12: It's still a timing, that's what tim like, even dooms wrapping.

1143
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: Over beat on times, but it's still a really to it. Yeah,

1144
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 4: like you to it. You can't bop your head.

1145
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 10: It's outs about you can tell what type of rapping

1146
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 10: is more about what you saying than how you saying it. Yeah,

1147
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. It's like the cadence is

1148
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 10: like almost the rhythm.

1149
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's why you don't start talking

1150
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 4: to you with numbers. Just what he said like that exactly,

1151
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: Like there's a style where you like you lock into

1152
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 4: like a part of the beat. It's how I hat

1153
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 4: doing something. I don't follow that to okay cool. We've

1154
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: heard that so much that it's almost un dane right

1155
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 4: for someone to go off the path and make a

1156
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 4: rhythm that's still there, but you're exactly what the beat.

1157
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 4: It's kind of dope. I get it. I gotta see

1158
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 4: why you know, people like that, but I can see

1159
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 4: why it don't connect as well.

1160
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 2: People are so programmed to rhythm.

1161
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 13: In your wheelhouse, and it's going to show if you

1162
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 13: don't have the other. So, if you like super offbeat,

1163
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 13: but that's just what you do because you like it's

1164
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 13: gonna orrismatic negatives gonna work, that's cool. But then if

1165
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 13: you really don't got the skill to back that up

1166
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 13: when it's time to like do something else, that's gonna show.

1167
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 13: And in the same way, if you're just super like

1168
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 13: mister locked in here, but then have no ability to

1169
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 13: like freestyle when it's time or like getting looser time,

1170
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 13: it's gonna.

1171
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: You can hear you can hear rappers flirting with the

1172
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 2: off beat thing, like even on a mock mock mock

1173
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: album sometimes hear and that he flirt with almost going

1174
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 2: off a beat a little bit out of the pocket.

1175
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 4: He was one of the ones that really forged that style.

1176
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: Like yeah, it was like he was doing it like

1177
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 4: a jazz We were listening to his ship like this.

1178
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 13: He's just one of the ones though if you haven't

1179
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 13: mastered readers, so you gotta respect it when you.

1180
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 4: In different ship.

1181
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 13: See, he really bust niggas head because this nigga saw

1182
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 13: I do mean, there's basically just like a form and

1183
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 13: meter literally of like poetry that bro locks into Sometimes

1184
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 13: that is like some just head bust ship, like you

1185
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 13: really actually get shown.

1186
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 4: It's not something that you normally that's normally shown. Yeah,

1187
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 4: but it's that ship too. Does that ship too, So

1188
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: it's not just underground. It's like you say, it's really

1189
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 4: goes cross the matches Scott, Yeah, Scott. And it was

1190
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 4: about and also what they see in the in the beat.

1191
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like everybody like this, like

1192
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: this route down the mountain, this is how I.

1193
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 4: Look what I'm doing. Said, right, that's interesting. I respect it.

1194
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm sure the vagina's out there so well off this conversation,

1195
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: This is a nerdy conversation, but speaking of elite rapping,

1196
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 2: can you tell them story you told me in dry.

1197
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 11: Oh, yes, I wonder if I'm in trouble. So I

1198
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 11: was on tour with him in Australia, right, he j yeah,

1199
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 11: he was there. It was definitely on tour with it,

1200
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 11: so he was there. He don't know that I got

1201
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 11: in trouble. So it was like he had a song

1202
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 11: and he was bringing me out to perform because obviously

1203
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 11: when I was performing, it was like twenty thousand people,

1204
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 11: which is like a lot for me still, but it

1205
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 11: was still like a quarter of the show who was

1206
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 11: supposed to be there. So he was looking out and

1207
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 11: was like, we're gonna do the song again on my set.

1208
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 4: So we did it.

1209
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 11: We get to his verse, He's like, can anybody know

1210
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 11: that I got list? I don't even be rapping fast

1211
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 11: like that because that should be catching me up. So

1212
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 11: you're going crazy and I'm trying to like hype in

1213
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 11: and catch the words and I'm missing it like every time.

1214
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: Like fuck.

1215
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 11: The next day, they like he's sent Tracy to talk

1216
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 11: to me, like Marshall needs to speak to you.

1217
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 4: Man in trouble.

1218
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 11: You put me in the back, Like, man, I need

1219
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 11: more help, Like you got to be a better hype

1220
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 11: man basically like you need to catch my words. I'm like,

1221
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 11: so I spend the whole twenty four hours trying to

1222
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 11: learn every single bar just to make sure I can

1223
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 11: catch that.

1224
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 4: That wasn't an easy one either, catching the words. But

1225
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: I'm not moving and I'm.

1226
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 9: Like, no, I'm all you niggas.

1227
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: You say and all your balls, nigga, my name is Eminem.

1228
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 12: This is fucking quadruple Eminem.

1229
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, you never thought about that, right, Like the

1230
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 10: Eminem hype.

1231
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 11: Man like what they probably got to know different respectful

1232
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 11: then don't miss And I'm like, damn this ship crazy.

1233
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a whole other day, Like yeah, crazy. And

1234
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 4: he's surgical, especially on stage all detail. Yeah, Jesus terrified.

1235
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: Another conversation he was having a deer, I do want

1236
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: to ask you with shows and being a producer. If

1237
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm a producer, I might fight in my contract to

1238
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: get a small percentage of your shows. Like I think

1239
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: it's especially especially the mixtape era. Yeah, like in the

1240
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: mixtape error, remember no one would pay, No one would

1241
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: pay for any beats. Then they go to him make

1242
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 1: their bread off the mixtape ship producer would get nothing.

1243
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean Grant's a little different now, isn't.

1244
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 10: There some performances the you do.

1245
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 4: Need a small battle money in your songs, but they

1246
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: have to register it and all that you make a

1247
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 4: small man. That was love for us.

1248
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 10: Argument argument with Mac Miller, Okay, yeah, this was that

1249
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 10: you was able to use a song to generate all

1250
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 10: this money.

1251
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: Because you are monitor even if it's not directly from

1252
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: the audio.

1253
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 4: File, I get paid the regular way. That's yeah, I

1254
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 4: accepted that. That was my you know what I mean.

1255
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 10: But you went out there and you didn't really have

1256
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 10: records yet, and that might have been.

1257
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 4: The first one.

1258
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 10: Let's say somebody did your mixtape or something like that,

1259
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 10: and you just go out there.

1260
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: Because yeah, you get royalties off everything else is a

1261
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: producer and a writer. But if you out there, you

1262
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: get performing, you need a royalty off that too.

1263
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 17: Like Trap or Die, you know, was on tour in

1264
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 17: the mixtape era, like in fifty inch touring and doing

1265
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 17: everybody else's songs for his album Dropped, all right, I

1266
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 17: feel I think now I don't know if it's as

1267
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 17: really I mean, but yeah, even original music that was

1268
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 17: on mixtapes, like they wasn't paying you know, any of

1269
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 17: those producers was a renegade eeror.

1270
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, just I'm You're going on tour and I'm watching you,

1271
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: dude while thirty cities with my record that I didn't

1272
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: charge you for. Right, You got to bust some of

1273
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: that down, like some of that bread needs to come

1274
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: over here. Yeah, I agree, Yeah, producers, you they need

1275
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: the money.

1276
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I alfraido, man, I mean, I don't want

1277
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: to dig too much into the history. Like anybody that's

1278
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 2: listening and watching this, they know who you are. How

1279
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: was that being recognized by the Grammys that was a

1280
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: whole project like that, because that wasn't the I was

1281
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: happy at the nomination. I was like, I know they're

1282
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: not going to give them the award, but just the

1283
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: nomination because I felt like now everything that people like

1284
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: Rock Marshy has been doing for a lot of years,

1285
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: and Gaselda and you obviously forever, I felt like it

1286
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: was it was being recognized on the level with everybody else.

1287
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 4: That's what I think it was. I think they were

1288
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 4: starting to get shipped right in that department over there.

1289
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 4: To me when I saw all the people that got nominated,

1290
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 4: like I didn't even know. I guess that was like

1291
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: because we didn't. I guess you have to submit it,

1292
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 4: so Empire kind of like put it in the mix.

1293
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 4: I was actually surprised because I wouldn't have expected that,

1294
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 4: just like some of the homies probably, but I think

1295
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: it didn't make a statement, like and even like the

1296
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 4: fact that we even got like recognized for it, to

1297
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 4: me was exactly what you're saying, like, all right, we

1298
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 4: need to start paying attention to some of this shit

1299
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 4: that's going on over here, because there's good music going on.

1300
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 4: And I do think it was weird because it was

1301
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 4: other artists, like I think it was like a little

1302
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 4: Baby or the Baby, certain stuff that shouldn't have been

1303
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: in that category too, but it felt like they split it.

1304
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 4: What happened is last year.

1305
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 10: Cardi one right ye before Yeah, I think definite, they

1306
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 10: changed the rules and they tried to get like way

1307
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 10: more okay only hip hop votes on hip hop you

1308
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying.

1309
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 4: Before it used to be a lot broader.

1310
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 10: Like other people could vote on that main category, where

1311
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 10: now it's like they singled it down to mainly people

1312
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 10: from the hip hop world voting on hip hop album.

1313
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, because that's where it was sucked up.

1314
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 10: And I think that was that was a reflection of that,

1315
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 10: you know what I mean that that year, that year,

1316
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 10: This year was a reflection of that changing with everybody

1317
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 10: being like, Okay, these are the records that that you know,

1318
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 10: that crowd, but they don't really got it's early for

1319
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 10: them to you know, that is early for that. So

1320
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 10: now they got to start figuring it out, like Okay, cool,

1321
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 10: we can't go all the way here.

1322
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 4: We gotta balance it out. We gotta, you know what

1323
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 4: I mean, figure it out.

1324
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 10: We can't just go now we're going straight artistic and

1325
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 10: leaving along.

1326
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1327
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 10: The popularity is like it gotta be a balance of

1328
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 10: the two because there's fans that obviously loved that ship too,

1329
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying.

1330
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 4: So it's like, you know what I mean.

1331
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 10: So I think that's where it's gonna be interested to

1332
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 10: see where it goes, where it goes next year?

1333
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 12: Right, is your generation give a fuck about the Grams

1334
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 12: at all?

1335
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: No?

1336
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 4: Not really.

1337
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 11: I think it's like, but I would be happy to

1338
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 11: be nominated, of course, but like, no, I don't think

1339
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 11: nobody really give a fuck no more.

1340
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 4: For what's I think that's where got into this. Yeah,

1341
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 4: the graem Me just say that if it happened, it

1342
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 4: would be a cool that was never like one of

1343
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 4: our aspirations. I could think of a million other things.

1344
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 4: Approval from some of my peers like yeah, but to me,

1345
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 4: you know, it's amazing, but I felt like that was

1346
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 4: never our goal, you know what I mean. So I

1347
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 4: think it's cool that they're getting it.

1348
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 13: Right in terms of I think, all right, I said no,

1349
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 13: like hello quick, but I think when I seen the

1350
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 13: Alfredo ship getting dominated, and I've seen a lot of

1351
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 13: the other ship that was on there too, it.

1352
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 4: Was like Royce, you'd like to be amongst those names,

1353
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 4: not even a monks. But it's just like this, this

1354
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 4: is what y'all do. Okay.

1355
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 10: I heard that right the year before it was was Tyler.

1356
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it was.

1357
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 10: And that also kind of shook things up as well,

1358
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 10: so you know what I mean. So they keep adjusting

1359
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 10: because of the.

1360
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 4: Complaints, you know what I'm saying.

1361
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 12: But still still I can't like Tyler getting it.

1362
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 13: It was crazy, and I know that I was crazy

1363
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 13: for him, but knowing not Nigga for so long, I

1364
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 13: know that that's been that like came from his head

1365
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,959
Speaker 13: you know what I'm saying. Like dude was like I'm

1366
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 13: going to get a Grammy.

1367
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: And when career, he was always vocal like no, I

1368
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: want what I'm saying I want.

1369
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 13: I'm saying ship coming from this. That's like that where

1370
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 13: I know this dude really sitting here right here like

1371
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 13: this and make music like this, Like like he said

1372
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 13: he don't want music for a Grammy.

1373
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: Like but even even I'll say with him being in

1374
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 1: that category, that was my favorite album of that year,

1375
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: Tyler's album. I didn't think it was a hip hop album.

1376
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it should have been in the rap category.

1377
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: Wasn't a rap album. Yeah, Like it was my favorite,

1378
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't put it. I put it in an Album

1379
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: of the Year, I wouldn't put it in a rap

1380
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: album with ye. Right, So that's where I feel like,

1381
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: all right, just trying to save face is still I

1382
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: was fucking up the integrity of the show because.

1383
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 12: Now you're just putting things in genres they don't belong in.

1384
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 13: Nigga's been suffering from like lack of detail and like

1385
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 13: being perceived, you know what I mean, Like that that's

1386
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 13: an old thing of just like the urbanely you know.

1387
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

1388
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's just

1389
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 13: how that goes.

1390
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 4: So like that's why I think, on the.

1391
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 13: One hand, it is kind of weird the Grammy thing

1392
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 13: because it is like the best. Yes, it can feel

1393
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 13: like the best Black award or like the best Black music.

1394
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: But what's the ideal accolade for both here? Like what

1395
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: would be the number one? This is what I have

1396
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: to get when I have to get, but I would

1397
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: like to get the most.

1398
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 11: See that's what I was saying. I think in theory

1399
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 11: what the Grammy that's supposed to stand for is like

1400
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 11: the best music or how I used to look at

1401
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 11: it as a kid before I got into the politics.

1402
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 11: I would still want that part of it. But me

1403
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 11: knowing how that it's been so biased for so long,

1404
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 11: it just makes me be like, I don't give a

1405
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 11: fuck about that ship, but I feel like it's leaning

1406
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 11: to or it's getting the shit together, and that should

1407
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 11: have been amazing to me. I wouldn't deny it, but

1408
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 11: also a hit you feel me, I don't want.

1409
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 4: It to feel more importantly the nigga.

1410
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 11: The heat hard or underground or however I wanted I

1411
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 11: want that hit.

1412
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 4: That's that's the accolation for me.

1413
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, I feel you like it's less than an award

1414
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 13: and more just like.

1415
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't think I have like a

1416
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 4: holy girl like that.

1417
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 13: I think like I want to see how long I

1418
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 13: could go and how like pure I could keep my

1419
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 13: feeling about doing music.

1420
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1421
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,919
Speaker 13: And I know that's a super child once you get

1422
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 13: in the in like the older years, Like.

1423
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 4: I've never been like the hit maker guy, you know,

1424
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 4: like some guys made their career figuring out how to

1425
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 4: change the time and scoring. Like I don't want the

1426
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 4: name names, but like you know the ones like and

1427
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 4: I respect him. I always felt that was dope. But

1428
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 4: I just felt like that's not It was never my bag.

1429
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 4: So it was like to be able to I always say, like,

1430
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,479
Speaker 4: you know, in the club, like you could walk around

1431
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 4: the club and chase girls, right, bro, you could stand

1432
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: in one spot. It just like they'll probably come around.

1433
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 4: You have a better shot if you stand in one spot.

1434
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 4: So I'm like we did. We try to do the

1435
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 4: same ship with the music, like I like to get inspired,

1436
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 4: like I remember when like when when, like when the

1437
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 4: South shit was happening like Crunks was kicking and Little

1438
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 4: John was killing it in three six was hot, and

1439
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 4: New York started letting the influence in, like to me,

1440
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 4: dipset what they were doing heat Makers. They really allowed

1441
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 4: that influence of some of the South bounce to the

1442
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 4: records and meshed it and made a sound that was

1443
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: allowing some of the stuff that was happening to like

1444
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 4: influence you. So I feel it's good to still letting

1445
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 4: new shit in but still kind of.

1446
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: Have But you still also have to think, like hip

1447
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: hop changes real lifetime. Ten years. Hip hop is like

1448
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: ten months. That's how quick shit changed.

1449
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: So if you're a producer, might be faster than that

1450
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 2: word you got. I think from a producer standpoint, there's

1451
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: always going to be a younger kid that's doing the

1452
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 2: moment sound better than he'll just do it better than

1453
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 2: just talking about they're creating that in that moment. So

1454
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: if you don't have your own sound and some ship

1455
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: that people can rely on you, it's not really a

1456
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: long game of that ship.

1457
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 4: Won't last or then you you know, otherwise it's more

1458
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 4: like work for hire and you have to keep changing.

1459
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 4: And for me, like I'm not a musician, like I

1460
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: could my ear, like I base my ship on my ear.

1461
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 4: Is my is my strength, like by far more than

1462
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 4: my hands, like like just is he was an engineer first,

1463
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 4: just as like a scientist. Like you know what I'm saying.

1464
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 4: Even my name throws people off. I think, like just

1465
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 4: get inspired and make weird shit happen and I listen,

1466
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 4: I just be trusting my ears, like I'm not as

1467
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 4: good technically, I guess you know, but.

1468
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: I don't like they say you're not a musician.

1469
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 4: I don't know how to play music. I don't know

1470
01:04:58,480 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 4: how to read music.

1471
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean it's still I mean every day it's a

1472
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: definition musician true not to like to like, yo, I

1473
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: ain't ship. I'm just saying like and it maybe one

1474
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 1: day I learned. But I feel like my strength always

1475
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: been this. We all have probably the same strength. That's

1476
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: why when you make beats they're dope.

1477
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 4: Like if y'all made fucking beats, it will put your

1478
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 4: enough time to it, they would happen. But it's like

1479
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: this has always been my skill. So it's like I

1480
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 4: just put faith in that.

1481
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: Like the people more important and don't have it.

1482
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

1483
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: You can play every intu in the world like musicians,

1484
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: because they just be so in it when they're playing.

1485
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 4: Like you've ever been in the studio with like a

1486
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 4: keyboard player and they're playing and they're just like where

1487
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 4: are they? Like you're looking off their negative doing this ship,

1488
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 4: you know, and you're like damn, but they don't know

1489
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 4: when to stop. They they respect you because you're like

1490
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 4: that part right there. I feel like to be that,

1491
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 4: to be that good at playing, you have to immerg

1492
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 4: yourself in it. And I never I felt like I

1493
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 4: was kind of afraid to do that. I'm like, damn

1494
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: over that route, Like I'm obsessive. I might forget about

1495
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 4: the other ship now I'm doing what they're doing. So

1496
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 4: anytime I give them musicians when I like, chop up

1497
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 4: a sample and have them replay it and be like

1498
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 4: tripping out when they figure out how the chords that

1499
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 4: I remember, one dude was laughing, Yeah, this is crazy.

1500
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 4: I would never play like this, and I'm like, see,

1501
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 4: if I learn how to play, I may not chop

1502
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 4: ship up chop musically wrong. But he learned how to

1503
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 4: play it and was like laughing to himself. It was

1504
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 4: like I was like, man, my bad. I didn't don't. Yeah,

1505
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 4: I think there's a good medium, but it ain't. It's

1506
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 4: still I respect the art of what we do. I

1507
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 4: respect it.

1508
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: You know, most of putting together my project was bringing

1509
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: the musicians and any direction, no play to this drum

1510
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: ship ship for the next hour. I'm a sick out

1511
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 1: and find every little you're producing its producing. That's really

1512
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: how it went. There's a giving direction. Go play against

1513
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 1: his drum loops and listen, that's producing.

1514
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 4: I'm you know, there's sometimes people have things they can

1515
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 4: say about Calendar. I respect Calendar because there's a skill

1516
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 4: to what he does. What he's easy to do to

1517
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 4: get to get that. You know, he has a cast

1518
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 4: that's great, but you still have to make a great

1519
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 4: song and each time keep doing it. There is a

1520
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 4: skill to what he does. I can't do you know

1521
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And we all have our perspective skills.

1522
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 4: We definitely respect that because I feel like that's producing

1523
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 4: and some people get it twisted. It's like beat making

1524
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 4: is its own world. Yeah, record collecting is its own world.

1525
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 4: Like you could just stop there and be a record guy.

1526
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 4: I'll find samples or you could be and makes you

1527
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 4: find and produces like you don't even have to do

1528
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 4: all of them. You know what I'm saying.

1529
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 12: They go down play access when it comes to producing. Yeah,

1530
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 12: that's a that's a big, big thing.

1531
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying. One of the main things,

1532
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 4: Like because once you reach a level.

1533
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:09,959
Speaker 10: Of of like celebrity of like people wanting to work

1534
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 10: with you.

1535
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: It's all there for you.

1536
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 10: Like you could just be like, you know, I want

1537
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 10: to work with you, you know what I'm saying, Like

1538
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 10: like switsches to go, and they be like, yo, I'll

1539
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 10: make done, like.

1540
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 4: Dream, I'll make done. Now, I'll make done. You gotta

1541
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 4: hear this. You gotta do this. You gotta do that,

1542
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1543
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 10: And it's like, you know, averag person like you even

1544
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 10: get in there. Some people got beats outside just trying

1545
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 10: to like hopefully somebody open the door and maybe they

1546
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 10: listening to one of these beats.

1547
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 4: And I swear you know what I'm saying.

1548
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:42,440
Speaker 10: But if you certain people always say like relationship producers

1549
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 10: to where it's like Okay, if you know ten people

1550
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 10: could get in the room with with Jay, No, none

1551
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 10: of them probably will make a record. You know what

1552
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 10: I'm saying, they'll figure it out if they have the

1553
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 10: access and the time, and you know what I'm saying,

1554
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 10: to go back and forth and be.

1555
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 4: Like, oh like this like that, but that okay, cool,

1556
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 4: you go, you.

1557
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 10: Know what I'm saying, Or to go through twenty five beats,

1558
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 10: they'll find one, you know what i mean.

1559
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 4: So it's just about who's going to get that.

1560
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 10: Who's gonna whether it's gonna be somebody they've worked with,

1561
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 10: whether it's because they're cool with somebody. And that's what

1562
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 10: used to always be banks argument. He said, you got

1563
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 10: to be able to a certain tax bracket to work

1564
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 10: with Jay. Like it's like, you know, you get funny,

1565
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 10: you gotta got the least life that you gotta be.

1566
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 4: You gott to move around a certain way, you know

1567
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

1568
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 10: Because you remember when you came to the studio, right

1569
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 10: when you when you came to the studio to do

1570
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 10: this with Jake?

1571
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 4: How did that happen? Recently? Little attack the baseline? He

1572
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 4: didn't show up? Remember, Yeah, but why did you? Why

1573
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 4: did you go? Okay, I've seen him in the club

1574
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 4: exact Yeah, I seen him in the party. I've seen him.

1575
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 4: They were all out, Remember every single one of them. Everybody, Dame,

1576
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 4: I don't think you were there. You were at the

1577
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 4: studio right They were all out some club life or something,

1578
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 4: every single one of them. And then I think I

1579
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 4: seen your brother. You told me come up on the couch.

1580
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 4: They were all say what up to? Beans said and

1581
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 4: not saying Jay. I said what up to me? He's like,

1582
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 4: we're gonna stop wasting in beach. You know. It was

1583
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 4: so left yo. I was like, I said, Yo, I

1584
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 4: ain't even went this club ship. We could go to

1585
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 4: the studio right now, those Beans, you want to go

1586
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 4: to the studio after, We're gonna go to the baseline. After this,

1587
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 4: my bet, like I went to this girl with me.

1588
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, I'm sorry, you gotta come with me,

1589
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 4: Like went to my crib, got the fucking as R team.

1590
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,799
Speaker 4: It was in a big ass Remember day I started

1591
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 4: a big case like one in the morning. They came

1592
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 4: out and got in the limbo like here, we're gonna

1593
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 4: meet you at baseline. Jane didn't show up, but Beans

1594
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 4: came through and Freeway came through and we did that

1595
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 4: joint that night. Freeway. It was on State Property album.

1596
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 4: What was it called Steal in effect. We ended up

1597
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 4: doing that. Yeah, but we were at the club game.

1598
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 4: It's party environment, shies funny. It was mad times. We tried.

1599
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 4: We tried so many times. Damn records don't even happen

1600
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 4: like that no more.

1601
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: Everybody kind of knows or has access to everybody now,

1602
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,000
Speaker 2: so that that having to be in the same room.

1603
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 4: Those moments are gone because.

1604
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 10: It was those moments too where it was like, say,

1605
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 10: for instance, if you came with beats when we wasn't working,

1606
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 10: it was just you know what I'm saying, Like nobody

1607
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 10: was really working in between albums like that.

1608
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 4: Now like now people.

1609
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 8: Are record our cycle because you had the book time,

1610
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 8: Like I had to spend two thousand dollars on a

1611
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 8: session on him, get some rent.

1612
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 10: Tools, do all of that the later beat. Then he

1613
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 10: could come late, you know what I'm saying. So it's

1614
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 10: like you have to be a guaranteed this is something

1615
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 10: we're gonna use and we really like this beat, you

1616
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 10: know what I mean, That's why we have baseline. It

1617
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 10: was like he could say that go to the baseline,

1618
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 10: lops over there. You know, it's a little more freedom

1619
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 10: when you try ship, you know what I mean? And

1620
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 10: stuff like that. But but you know, like if somebody

1621
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 10: comes with a bunch of stuff and the album just

1622
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 10: came out, I don't know to tell you, man.

1623
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 4: A bad time something else with it had artists at

1624
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 4: that time. Yeah, remember one time I came to see

1625
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 4: you play beats. You were at Jasonine. I came, I'm

1626
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 4: playing beats for you and Ship and it was like

1627
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: somebody on the couch with a jeans suit, like a

1628
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 4: jean jacket and jean pan. I thought it was one

1629
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 4: of your R and B artists, and you had like

1630
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 4: Christian at the time, I thought it was. I didn't

1631
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 4: know who it was because I'm playing beats for Hot

1632
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 4: and every other beat, dude's going like that one. I'm

1633
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 4: like thinking, who's this dude? Man, I'm playing beats for James,

1634
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 4: you know, and I should bring the dats and he'd

1635
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 4: be like I like six or like eight or like nine.

1636
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 4: Engineer would record him. So then after I did that,

1637
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 4: I go to leave and Bro follows me out the

1638
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 4: room and Ship. Remember based I had that little door

1639
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 4: and the the other door, and he goes, Yo, now

1640
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 4: you get your drums like that. I'm like drums, he goes,

1641
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 4: I'm Kanye west Man Kanye West. I was like, oh,

1642
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 4: you you're straight, because he already had a couple of

1643
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 4: joints out and you had already told me about him.

1644
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 4: I didn't know it was him. You get drums like that,

1645
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you're straight.

1646
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 3: Your ship is fire.

1647
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 4: I gave him damn. I'm like, he's like, I got

1648
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 4: cool cool. Yeah, I didn't even know it was him.

1649
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 4: The hotel was an R and B artist, remember, because

1650
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 4: he was picking beats out. Yeah, yeah, early because you

1651
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 4: told me early on he told me we got this kid.

1652
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 4: I thought his name was Kanyak. He was like Kanye West,

1653
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 4: like who what? And you had a bunch of beats

1654
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 4: from him early on when he just came to New York. YEP,

1655
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 4: that was an early state who said though. That was

1656
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 4: like he said, you gotta change. He used the same Yeah,

1657
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 4: I was. I was dumble excited. I was like, I'm

1658
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 4: about the best producer ever. Yeah, you know, said, I'm like, yo,

1659
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 4: listen to this joint. I mean, bean is crazy. He

1660
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, but he got the same smith hut

1661
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 4: me down.

1662
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 3: That's funny.

1663
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 4: No idea was the man that was your man. You

1664
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 4: had a couple of people that you were taking but yeah,

1665
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 4: no worry. And now