1 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast with Jaguars senior writer John Osher. 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: All Right, welcome into this week's Ozone podcast. And I'm 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: excited about this. I think a lot of people will be. 4 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: It's a chance to catch up after a long first 5 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: year as a team with Jaguars defensive tackle Eric Armstead. 6 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: And Eric, first of all, I appreciate you doing this, 7 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: and tell me about the mood of the team right now. 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: I've talked to some younger players about it. You're a 9 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: guy who's been in the league ten years now, tell 10 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: me about what you're seeing for this franchise right now. 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: I think we have a great vibe going around the building. 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: It feels very refreshing. It feels great to be honest, 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: to be a part of it and entering OTAs and 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: getting back into football. I think we're on the you know, 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: the forefront of a promising season. There's a lot of newness, 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: which I think is great. A lot of first timers, 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: you know, first time head coach, first time decordinator, first 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: time GM. And I think with the first timers, they 19 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: bring a sense of refreshed energy and. 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: You know that they want. 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: To get it right and they're doing everything they can 22 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: to make sure that you know we're headed in the 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 2: right direction that we need to be, and so it's 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: it's great to be a part of it. Energy has 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: been great out at practice in the building, and it's 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: been a lot of fun to be a part of. 27 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: How again, you've seen a lot of coaches and a 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: lot of different situations in the NFL. I know you 29 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: don't deal with the GM that much as a player. 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: You deal with your coaches, But do you get a 31 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: vibe from William Cohen and James Gladstone and Tony BISSELLI 32 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: just I guess how important is it for a group 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 1: like that to be working together? And do players feel 34 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: that when the structure is new and moving forward and 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: has the energy that they did? 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: I think I think you definitely feel that. 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: You can always feel when leadership and and people in 38 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: certain positions are on one accord and. 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 3: It's and it's cohesive. 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: I was a part of a lot of coaching change 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 2: throughout my career, but I was also there for when 42 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch came in together. You can 43 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: feel it, and you can always feel that from the 44 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: very jump, like they were in this together. 45 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: It was cohesive. 46 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: And they were going to make decisions as a united front, 47 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 2: and so coming in together and especially like I said, 48 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: being new and first timers for them and and having 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: kind of that those running mates to go through it 50 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: with you, I think is going to bond them. 51 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: Even closer together. 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 2: And you know they're they're taking those next steps to 53 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: to build the organization. You know how they bestee fit 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: and it's a lot of exciting times now. 55 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Without getting into specific details or the weirdness of last season, 56 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: there's always weirdness when things go bad as a team. 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: Had you ever been through a situation quite as it 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: just kind of felt like a lost year for everybody. 59 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was definitely not a whole lot went well. 60 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: And especially I think that when you look coming into 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: the season and you know, me coming here and looking 62 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: at our roster and and how promising we thought it 63 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: all could be, it just never never was really right. 64 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: And it's how hard it can be. 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: Right shows how hard it can be. And you know, 66 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: been in this league a long time. When you're winning, 67 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: it solves a lot of problems. Your life is better, 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: your kids or your wife is happier, and you go 69 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: home and uh, it feels feels. 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: A lot better. 71 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 3: Everything is much sweeter. Life, life is a lot better. 72 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: But when you're losing in the NFL, life can be 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: can can be sour, and especially when you're when you're 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: dealing with the pressures of you know, coaching and everyone, 75 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, we all have a job to do, and 76 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: then you're dealing with, you know, letting the fans down 77 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: and not giving them a product to be proud of, 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 2: and and what comes with that as well too. So 79 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: it's something that I've been a part of, unfortunately, and 80 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: I've been a part of the other side, where you're 81 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: you're dominating people every weekend. Things are very fun and 82 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: life is great. So that's where we're trying to get to. 83 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: Gotcha. And then at the end of that year, it 84 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: was such an odd year, probably for you in a way, 85 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: because at the end of that year you get an award, 86 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: an unbelievably well deserved award that is a career defining 87 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: award in the way, the NFL Man of the Year. Uh, 88 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: tell me what that meant to you and take me 89 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: that moment, and again, I guess just what that means 90 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: to you considering how you've approached your career. 91 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: It's a huge honor. 92 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: Really, you know it, it just doesn't you know, the 93 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: winning in a world like that just isn't about me. 94 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: You know, I think about all the people that have 95 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: had impact in my life, from my family to you 96 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: know where I grew up in Sacramento, and coaches and 97 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: guys and players that I've played with, and other great 98 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: men that I've been able to learn from, and you 99 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: know those everybody who shaped Yeah, everyone who's shaped me 100 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: and got and helped guide me to the point where 101 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: I'm at in my life now. And you know I am, 102 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: you know, just a testament of of that of other people, 103 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: of God's blessings him, you know, guiding me throughout my life. 104 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: So I think about it from that sense of the 105 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: goodness that I get to represent from everyone that has 106 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: had a huge impact on my life and the opportunity 107 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: that I have with the platform, with the award to 108 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: serve more and more people and have bigger and bigger impact. 109 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: And you know, I've always had the mindset of you know, 110 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: we never know how long we're going to live on 111 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: this earth, but you know, from my time on this earth, 112 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: I want I want to leave this earth making it 113 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: a better place and making other people's lives better and 114 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: those are the things I think about. And with an 115 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: award like this, the platform, the doors that will open 116 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: to serve more and more people and impact people, and 117 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: the platform that comes with it to shape people's lives 118 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: is immense, and I'm excited to do the work. 119 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: I was going to say, there's some excitement there because 120 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: for you, I mean, realistically, you're closer to the end 121 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: of your career than the beginning, but you're not closer 122 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: to the end of your off field work than your 123 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: at the beginning. That's a lifetime thing. And this is 124 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: very much a stepping sown a foundation for that right. 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: One hundred when I started, you know, our organization, and 126 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: and I got with my wife and we founded our organization, 127 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: and you know, that was the number one goal is 128 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: to make something that's sustainable. You know, I just didn't 129 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: want it to be something that we did while I 130 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: was playing. I wanted it to be long lasting, have 131 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: long impact, and be sustainable and have and shape and 132 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: help and you know, bridge the gap for years to 133 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: come for people. And in a war like this, you know, 134 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: brings that more into reality. It validates the work that 135 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 2: we're doing and also opens up doors to truly ensure 136 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: that it is sustainable and that we're continuing to to 137 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: serve at a high level long after you know, I'm 138 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: done playing the game of football. That was always the 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: goal when when we started it. And I like the 140 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 2: trajectory that we're on, but there's a lot more work 141 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 2: to do. 142 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: Got you now, I'm gonna get back into foot a 143 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: little bit. A million dollar question everybody watching this is 144 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: wondering defensive end. Last year natural defensive tackle. There was 145 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: the storyline, the narrative out there was that you wanted 146 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: to play defensive end. You came in. How much can 147 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: you tell me about sort of why you were playing, 148 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: where you were, what went into that? 149 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can. We could talk about it. Yeah, we 150 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: could talk about it openly because. 151 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: You're smiling because that's something that you know, every fan 152 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: had their thought. But a lot of times those thoughts 153 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: aren't real. 154 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of time narratives get created. But you know, 155 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: the rele of it is this. 156 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: I was being pursued by multiple teams in free agency 157 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 2: and the number one question for me was how how 158 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: will I be utilized When I'm speaking to all these 159 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: teams and I played defensive tackle for like the past 160 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 2: three or four years of my career, and you know, 161 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: was playing at a Pro Bowl elite level. 162 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 3: And so it. 163 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: Was by surprise to me when I asked, you know, 164 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: how they wanted me to be utilized, that they wanted 165 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 2: me to play defensive end, and they wanted me to 166 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: rush inside on third down, but primarily play defensive end. 167 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: And it was a little bit of a surprise to 168 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: me knowing that you know, I've played detackle, you know, 169 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: for the past a few years and have been pretty successful, 170 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: and but they wanted a big body at defensive end, uh, 171 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: a guy who could rotate with with Trayvon and Josh, 172 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: And you know, when they presented the plan to me, 173 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, let's let's do it if if 174 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: that's you know, the best plan that you guys see fit. 175 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: And then shortly into the season when we were in London, 176 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: I went to them and I said, you know, I 177 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: don't think it's necessarily working out. You know, I feel 178 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: like I can have bigger impact on the team if 179 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: I'm playing more inside, where I'm you know, a better 180 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: pass rusher and I'm on the field, you know, with 181 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: Josh and Trayvon and the rest of the guys, and 182 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: at that time, looking at the roster, it didn't happen. 183 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: Even though I expressed that that's something that I wanted 184 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: to do and I thought that would be better for 185 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: the team, it didn't happen. But when you look at 186 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: the roster, I don't you know that kind of could 187 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: have went into that because when you look at the roster, 188 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: we had four defensive ends. So you move and we 189 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 2: had seven defensive tackles. So if you move me to detackle, 190 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: who spells and who gives Josh and Trayvon a break? 191 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: You know, So it could have been in one of 192 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: those situations. But I did express it, and you know, 193 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: sometimes you get into things and there's adversity. There's a 194 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: lot of things going on. But I believe everything has 195 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: happens for a reason. I'm really excited about this season 196 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: and this opportunity that I have. It's not something that 197 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: I haven't been through in my career. 198 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: I think, kind of smile, you've been You've seen it before. 199 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: I've been through a lot of situations throughout my career, 200 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: having success, having failures, going through adversity, things not working 201 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: out my way, and I've always overcame them. I've always 202 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: been able to you know, I think people have seen 203 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: and been able to show the type of the player 204 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: that I am and have earned a lot of respect 205 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: in this league. So I'm excited to have the opportunity 206 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: to do the same thing. 207 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 3: Right. 208 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: I liked your perspective there, because sometimes when something like 209 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: that happens, it's easy to say, well, they were just stubborn, 210 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: but there were there were positional issues, and once you 211 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: get into an NFL season, I think people sometimes don't 212 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: realize how fast things move and it's tough to make 213 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: changes once you're sort of down a roads. So it 214 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: can it's a strange league for issues for some issues 215 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: like that. Sometimes, yeah, it can be. 216 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 2: It can be a strange league. And you know, that's 217 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: last year it happened. You know, it's it's part of 218 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: my career, I guess is part of my journey. 219 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: But you learn after eleven years, the situations come. 220 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: Around, Situations happen, people talk, people say things, and you 221 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: have an opportunity to You'll always have opportunity to show 222 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: myself and show who I am, the type of player 223 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: that I am. 224 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: So and sort of on that front, how much more 225 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: I hate the word comfortable, but I guess it applies here. Comfortable, confident, 226 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: just playing inside make you And do you feel like 227 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: in this scheme that you're starting to learn, do you 228 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: feel like it's coming together on that front, like it's 229 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: going to be a good fit. 230 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think the main thing is just being out 231 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: there really. 232 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: You know, when you look at last year, I probably 233 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:51,359 Speaker 2: was only playing like twenty five maybe thirty snaps some games, 234 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: and you know I'm used to being a starter playing 235 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: fifty five sixty snaps. So you know, just being out 236 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: there more, I'm going to be more productive. I think 237 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 2: that's the main thing. And then when I look at 238 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: you know, playing inside, in which I've played both throughout 239 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: my career, have had success at both, I think just interiorly, 240 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: I'm an that's where I'm best. I'm the can have 241 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: the biggest effect on the quarterback playing rushing against guards 242 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 2: and centers, and that's what that's what I do best. 243 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: And so playing inside more because when people think about pastors, 244 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: they just think about oh, third down or but they 245 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: throw the ball on the first and second down too as well. 246 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: So when I'm. 247 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: Playing de tackle full time now I have more opportunities 248 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: to affect the game on first, second, third down, I'll 249 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: have more opportunities to have a big impact on the 250 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: game and be be more productive just being rhythm. You know. 251 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 2: Last year was the first I've never came off the bench, 252 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, so that was a little bit unique and 253 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: different for me, like not having a rhythm or a 254 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: full Yeah, I've never been like a spot player, Like 255 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: I've never came in and like played a couple of 256 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: players and then was out and then in and out, 257 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: so like that and now I have, having going through 258 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: that experience, I have a lot of respect for guys 259 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 2: who who have that's like their role. Situational guys, Yeah, 260 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: situational guys, because it's like that's tough to come in, 261 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: not be in a rhythm and be expected to you know, 262 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: play at a high level and then come out and 263 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: then in and out. And so I gained a lot 264 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: of going through this experience. I gained a lot of 265 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: ton of respect for you know, situational players. But I 266 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: don't feel that I am that, and you know, to 267 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: to be myself, I need to be out there. And 268 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: I think that's what everybody you know wants, and that's 269 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: what I've been paid to do. You know, they're not 270 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: paying me as a situational player, so I need to 271 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: be able to you know, do my job at a 272 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: high level. 273 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 3: And that's what's gonna happen this year. 274 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: It sounds funny asking you this because your career speaks 275 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: for itself, But is there something to prove for you? 276 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: There's always something to prove as long as you're in 277 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: the NFL, It's always something to prove each year. There's 278 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: always something to prove there always. 279 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: If there's not, you may as well get out right. 280 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no one, you know, the last year is 281 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: last year, good or bad. You know, if you had 282 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: a if you had an All Pro season the year before, 283 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: you know, great, But that's not going to help you 284 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 2: in Week three when you're playing against whoever you're playing against, 285 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: you know, and people are going to expect you to 286 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: have the same type of performances and. 287 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: Play at a high level. 288 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: So, you know what, you can look back and gain 289 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: a lot of experience and confidence. But if something to 290 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: prove every years, something to prove every year, and it's 291 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: a lot more to prove for me, you know. The 292 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: things that I think about as well too, is like 293 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: this being my first time being around this organization, my teammates, 294 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: these fans, and they don't they don't really know me, sure, 295 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: you know, like I haven't. 296 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: I haven't, you know, had a huge. 297 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: It was a hard year to get to know you 298 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: last year because there was weird. 299 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: Well, they don't know me as a player, that would 300 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: know me as a person and I have we don't, 301 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: we don't have any what's the word I'm looking for, 302 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: like vested equity, built, equity builds up, you know, like 303 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: coming from a place where I was, I made plays, 304 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: I helped us win games. You know, I was a 305 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: big time player in big games, Like I don't have 306 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: any of that equity built up, So people don't really 307 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: know me. So I'm excited to have an opportunity to 308 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: build that up. 309 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: That's cool. It's and I assume you feel like you've 310 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: got a lot left. I mean in year eleven twelve, 311 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: that's when those questions start happening. 312 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: But all those questions don't happen for me. I got 313 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: like a good five years left in me. I feel 314 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: like I'm yeah, I got a lot. I got a 315 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 2: lot to prove, a lot to do, a lot to 316 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: accomplish I'm not I'm not stopping anytime soon. 317 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: I still feel great. 318 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: I know I could play at a high level, and 319 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: you know, until until that day comes where I feel 320 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: like I can't play at a high level, then then 321 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: I'll shut it down. But I don't see that happening 322 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: anytime soon, because. 323 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: Once you get those double digits by your experience, that's 324 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: when those questions start coming around. 325 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, for. 326 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: Sure, But I think I think, uh, I think I 327 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: came into the league early. I left college my junior year, 328 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 2: you know, So you know, there's there's guys that even 329 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 2: though I'm mentoring year eleven, there's guys in year eight 330 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: and nine that are. 331 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: Older than me. Sure, you know. So those are some 332 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: of the things I think about. 333 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: But no, I got I got a lot, a lot 334 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: to prove, a lot more in store, a lot to 335 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: do left in this league, and I'm excited about this 336 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: opportunity to do it with this special group of men 337 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: that we have on this team here. 338 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: What's the first thing that comes to mind when I 339 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: mentioned your defensive coordinator Campan Uh, it's a piece of. 340 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: Work, right, Italian. 341 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: I've been been around, you know, been fortunate enough to 342 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: be coached by some Italian coaches and they they bring 343 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: that energy and they bring that juice and camp. You know, 344 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: before he got here, you know, I'm asking around for 345 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: you know, players that that uh played for him, Like, man, 346 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: what's heking? I didn't get not one bad review. Everyone 347 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: I talked to loved him, told me that I would 348 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: love playing for him, and you know, me being around 349 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: him for a couple of months now, everything that everyone 350 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: said has been one hundred percent true. You know, he's 351 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: he's up front, forward, honest, bring energy every day and 352 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: want what's best for. 353 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: You and once the same that's what was saying the 354 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: other day. 355 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: And wants to get the most out of you, and 356 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: you know you can live with that. I think as 357 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: players being around, being around and coached by a lot 358 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: of different people throughout the years, I think as players, 359 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: all we want to know is, you know, does a 360 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: coach care about me? Does a does a coach have 361 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: the best? You know, uh, does you want the best 362 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: for me? And if we know that, guys will will 363 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: do anything to make sure that you know you're successful, 364 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 2: but also that coach has success as well too, and 365 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: go out on that field and sacrifice everything because we know, 366 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: we got a coach that has our back in that 367 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 2: and that loves us. 368 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: Does scheme matter enough for me to ask you? Do 369 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: you like this scheme? I mean, sometimes for for defensive 370 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: line and it's whatever scheme they're playing, But do you 371 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: like this scheme and does it matter to you? 372 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: I think I think it would be. It's gonna be 373 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: much improved. You know, we're we're getting into it, and 374 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: I'm I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying it. 375 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 3: You know. 376 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: Up front, it's it's only so much you can really 377 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: you know, really do. 378 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: Or really line up. 379 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 2: You know, at some point, you know, the techniques kind 380 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: of become you know, yeah, yeah, pretty pretty similar. You know, 381 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: a shade is a shade of two eyes and two 382 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: eyes four eyes of four eye. You know, a three 383 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: tech is a three tech and so it kind of 384 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: kind of can become like that at times for D 385 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: line play. 386 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 3: But I'm really excited. 387 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: About holistically, how our defense is gelling together and and 388 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: tying in rush and coverage. You know, our back end, 389 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: you know, in this short period of time of OTAs 390 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: has been playing extremely sticky in coverage and for us 391 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: up front, we're just licking our chops because we know 392 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: all we need is a little bit of an extra 393 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 2: hitch and that cohesiveness, that synergy that you build, that's 394 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: the most important piece. You know a lot of times 395 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: and you know, communicating effectively, keeping it simple for us 396 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: to be able to play fast and then you know, 397 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 2: letting us be, letting us be playmakers and show our 398 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 2: abilities and doing it all together. And once it all 399 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: comes together, I think it's gonna be pretty special. 400 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: Well, the same question I probably I see in this 401 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: form last year, But there was such an energy when 402 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 1: they signed you. It was like, man, you put him 403 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: with Trayvon, with Josh, that's three big time and there's 404 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: more guys, but those are the three veterans. I guess 405 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: because of last year that's sort of got lost. Do 406 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: you guys feel that sort of energy and optimism about 407 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: what the three of you can accomplish and knowing that 408 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: there's more people involved with. 409 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: It, And I think people are going to see, you know, 410 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: when the season starts. Right now, it's it's it's cool. 411 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: You know, we're working work in the shadows and right 412 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: and work on our game and get us to the 413 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: spot we need to be to dominate during the season 414 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: and you know, all that work that we're going to 415 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: put in, it's going to be on display. So you know, 416 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: really not much, not much to be said, you know, 417 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: if people want to people want to hype it or not. 418 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: You know, it's we're going to see when it when 419 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: the season starts. 420 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: You're a good place. Yeah, I feel gree I mean, okay, 421 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: it's good. I guess this is the time of year 422 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: to be in a good place. But you're optimistic and 423 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: you like what's going on. 424 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: I feel great. Like I said, you know, it's it's 425 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: an honor to be in this league. I don't take 426 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: it for granted, and I don't take it lightly. I've 427 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: earned my right to be in this league as well too. 428 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: But it's it's it's special and I love I love 429 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: the game of football. I love being around my teammates, 430 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 2: and I love the journey of going out there and 431 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: trying to achieve greatness and be a dominant defense first 432 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: obviously because I play defense, but a dominant. 433 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 3: Team as a whole. 434 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: And there's really nothing like it, you know, And I 435 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: know a lot of people might aren't going to be 436 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 2: able to experience what we experience, but it's it's truly special, 437 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 2: and I don't take it for granted, and and I 438 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: cherish it. So I love I love doing what I do. 439 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna finish up with the Zone five. Some new 440 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: questions since you were nice enough to do this within 441 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: uh twice in the last year. Your best podcast guest 442 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: you ever had? 443 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 3: Best podcast guest I've had. 444 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: I've only had my teammates or guys that I played with, 445 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: So I don't know if I can rank. They're all 446 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 2: They're all my all, my homies. I don't know if 447 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: I can rank them, But I think the conversations kind 448 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: of all went a little bit of different directions, you know. 449 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 3: I think. 450 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 2: Two that really stick out to me that were extremely 451 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: funny were my episode with Trent Williams and my episode 452 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: with Christian Wilkins. Those guys, like it just turned into 453 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: like a very funny podcast. 454 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 3: And then you know, other conversations like the. 455 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: Second question is best Jaguars podcast guests, So okay, well. 456 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: I've only I've only had I've only had I've only 457 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: had josh. 458 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 3: On thus far. 459 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the winner, but expect a lot more uh 460 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: this upcoming season where we're getting back into the fold. 461 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: Who would be the best aside from yourself, who would 462 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: be the best podcast host among your teammates. 463 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question. I think Uh, I think Ross. 464 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 2: I think Ross would be a good I think Ross 465 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: would you know, bring a good energy. Yeah, we'll go 466 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: Ross like he's he's funny, he has a good vibe 467 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: about him. I think he would naturally like bring a 468 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: lot out of out of people, if that makes sense, 469 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 2: through through conver through conversation. 470 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: So I think Ross would be a good one. We 471 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: do we do do we would have? 472 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 3: We would have like a do we would have a 473 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 3: good non sports podcast? 474 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: Though? 475 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: He do? We we do? We We can talk about 476 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: some conspiracy theories. 477 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: And in some in some in some difference. 478 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: I've told him that's his post NFL career. Uh. Your 479 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: favorite NFL player growing up? 480 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: My favorite favorite NFL player ever all time Sean Taylor, 481 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: hands down. He made me love the game of football 482 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: the way he played. I grew up a basketball player, 483 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: but Sean Taylor like made me like like football. His swag, fingertap, 484 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: rainbow visors, hitting people, picking the ball out the air, 485 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 2: returning it for touchdowns six three two thirty, hitting the 486 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: Bowl what hitting punters the Pro Bowl, His sticking people 487 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: like hands down, he made me love football. 488 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: And I'll give you another one. 489 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: Julius Peppers just looked up to him a little more 490 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: like for for me, sure. 491 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 3: Played basketball in college football. 492 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: You know, I think one of the goats, goat D 493 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: linemen of all time when you look at his career. 494 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he underrated among the great ones. 495 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: Super underrated, but up there, you know, I put him 496 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: up there with with the great so him. I definitely 497 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: looked up to him because of his journey in his 498 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 2: career playing D line, playing basketball as well to growing 499 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: up being a two sport athlete. And just his longevity, 500 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: you know, like at one point he had he had 501 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: eight and a half sacks. He had eight and a 502 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: half plus sacks for fifteen years. 503 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: Straight him forever. 504 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: Just just the longevity and just who he was, like 505 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: big freaking nature. 506 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, your most influential teammate, Like the teammate you had 507 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: that you looked up to the most. Maybe when you 508 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: were a young player with the Niners. Anybody shape you. 509 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna name a few names 510 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: my rookie year, the whole defensive line, Glenn Dorsey, Ian Williams, 511 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 2: Quentin Dial, Tony Gerard Eddie, Mike Purcell, guys that when 512 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: I got into the league, when you're trying to figure 513 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: it out, had some really good vets who taught me 514 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: how to be a pro, taught me how to watch film, 515 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: taught me, you know, how to how to approach. 516 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: Things, and you know, that was really. 517 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: Great and foundational for my career and a great launching 518 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: board to just figuring out how I wanted to do 519 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 2: things and how I wanted to go about my career. 520 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 2: So those guys definitely helped me a lot. 521 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 3: My rookie year. 522 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: Got you, Eric Armstead, I could talk to you forever 523 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: about football. I really enjoy this. Thank you for joining 524 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: the ozone podcast season. 525 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: Appreciate you having me on. 526 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. 527 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: Bud