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Speaker 1: This is the Meat Eating Podcast coming at you, shirtless,

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Speaker 1: severely bug bitten in my case, underwear lissen ea podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can't predict anything, all right? This here, uh episode

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Speaker 1: of the Meat eat Or digital radio program is dedicated

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Speaker 1: two answering many of the most befuddling questions that come

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Speaker 1: in from listeners and viewers like you who take time

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Speaker 1: to write in and ask a question. Now we get questions.

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Speaker 1: We get a great array of questions. Some people have

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Speaker 1: technical questions. People be like, hey, you know, what's up?

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Speaker 1: and you know. And some people be like, don't you

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Speaker 1: think that the Clintons introduced wolves to the West as

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Speaker 1: that those kind of questions totallyusible. But in the ray,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just trying to it's a wide array

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Speaker 1: of Another good example would be the one that we

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Speaker 1: got the other day about my height. Yeah, how tall.

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Speaker 1: you're taller than that six funds. So someone wrote in

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Speaker 1: a couple of the two most common questions these days

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Speaker 1: coming and it's gonna deal with these real quick. Are

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Speaker 1: what in the world is wrong with your the online

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Speaker 1: store where you can get meat, eat your apparel. If

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Speaker 1: we had, if we had three hours tonight, I'll try

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Speaker 1: to explain what is wrong with the online everything's wrong

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Speaker 1: with the online store. Um, there's always like something. It's

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Speaker 1: mostly a story you go to to see, uh, things

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying this stuff is just because it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 1: That will change, and I think that'll change. There's stuff

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Speaker 1: You can get some There's some stuff on there. I

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Speaker 1: just don't have any there's no there some great first

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Speaker 1: There are two questions. People always want to know what's

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Speaker 1: up with DVDs. I feel like we kind of moved

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Speaker 1: Is there a bunch more shows coming on Netflix? Right now?

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Speaker 1: We have two seasons of Meat Eater up on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: You know, the best thing to do is just watch

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Speaker 1: them all the time, and even when you're gone out

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Speaker 1: Joannice the Laban Eagle, Good evening. Let's hear dirt myth.

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Speaker 1: You can't wave at him, Garrett, you gotta actually speak hello.

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Speaker 1: did that. I don't like to do that. I'd be

426
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: extremely reluctant to do that unless I live in the

427
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: area that had very low coyote numbers and it was

428
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: like about ten degrees below zero. I killed an elko

429
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: my bow one time, and we were out and it

430
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: was a bad grizzly area. I killed in the evening.

431
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: Um it was you know, when we started working on it,

432
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: it was already dark, and we didn't want to gut

433
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: it because we knew that if we gutted it, the

434
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: smell of the gutting would have grizzlies all over it.

435
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: And this is early season and days were pretty short,

436
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: and so we just went back down to our tents

437
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: and got our stuff and slept and then went back

438
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: up there at first light. And it was a cold night.

439
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: I went back up there at first light and thought

440
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: it would be cool, and some meat around that bulls

441
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: ball sockets on the rear hams had already started to sour.

442
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: We lost probably I don't know, five ten pounds of

443
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: meat from around the ball sockets on the back hams.

444
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, you gotta get after it. I was

445
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: wondering people are talking about, oh yeah, we went back

446
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 1: next day, and then I'm thinking about the weather, and

447
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe this isn't part of the story

448
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: you're telling me. But there's no way that things. There's

449
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: no way you didn't lose parts of that. In my experience,

450
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: I've I've like if I make a shot or even

451
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: you know, you just don't know. You don't want to

452
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: push the ad because the last thing you want to

453
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: use push the amy you will not find if if

454
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: I have an archery line or something, they shoot it

455
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: elk or something further back. The last thing I want

456
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: to do is push it because I know I won't

457
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: find it, you know, but I know if I leave it,

458
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: I'll find it. Um This year, my dad shot a

459
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 1: meal dere in August in Nevada far back. You know,

460
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: we left it overnight. We found it, you know, pretty much.

461
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't know after sent up, but you know, I've

462
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: been sitting there. It was warm, but all the meat

463
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: was good. I've never lost any meat of anything I

464
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: found the next day, not wanting that only had me

465
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: that one time, and that was the only time I

466
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: ever had left something ungutted overnight. I mean, I feel

467
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: like an elk is age different. It is different, but

468
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: I mean I've had I've had hunters that we've we've

469
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: gone back the next day to find him. Most of

470
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: the time it's probably pretty cold, and I can't and

471
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 1: just in my experience, I can't personally think of losing

472
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: any meat, and I feel like we often. I mean,

473
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: I am because because I've maybe because I've never lost anything.

474
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: I'm the kind of opinion better be safe than sorry

475
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: and just come back tomorrow. Yeah, if I hadn't had

476
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: that experience, and yeah, I mean, it'd be really helpful

477
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: if I knew, if I could tell you, like, oh,

478
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: the air temperature was this. I remember it was like

479
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: not below freezing, but a cool night. And we were

480
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: back up at first light. So it was in September

481
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: and I killed it right at dark. We were back

482
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: at first light, and it was it was like unquestionably

483
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: soured around the ball joints. So alright, we never lost

484
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 1: the single one that I can remember in Colorado in

485
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: ten years that we would leave and I don't know

486
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: that might have been saying you never lost any meat

487
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: or we never lost any meat really, but the one

488
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: that we that we once in Arizona, we left the

489
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: bowl overnight, found him first first thing in the morning.

490
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: He was shot at dark, found him first first thing

491
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: in the morning, and we lost half that olt. Did

492
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: it rain that night, but it definitely didn't get blow freezing.

493
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: It was probably like a you know, mid to low

494
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: forties kind of an evening. Yeah, I can see it.

495
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, elk retain heat so well that I can

496
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: see it happening without. But I think, dear, I think,

497
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, you'd probably be better off maybe letting

498
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: him say if it was a marginal shot and pushing

499
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: a gut shot. Dear. Yeah, you gotta think about it too.

500
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really I don't want to belabor the point,

501
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, take serious. What what Remmy is saying here

502
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: about not pushing stuff? Yeah, not pushing animals, because because

503
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: if you get a questionable hit on an animal, it's

504
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: very likely going to run off and not far and

505
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: lay down and probably die. Now, the thing about pushing

506
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: him is it's not that if you go after something

507
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: and push it, it's not that you're prolonging it's life.

508
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: You're just moving it to a alce. You're not gonna

509
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: find it like that thing. Maybe he's gonna be live

510
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: for X amount of time. Now, if he spends that

511
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: tire that time that he's alive hauling ass, he's gonna

512
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 1: be you know, he when he expires, he's gonna be

513
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: out of place where you have no way of finding

514
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: him if there's no good blood trail. So yeah, you

515
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: gotta be careful not to. Yeah, you just gotta wait

516
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: your options. I've been in. I've been in that situation

517
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: quite a number of times, especially when I was younger,

518
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: when we like a lot of us friends, family, like

519
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people out doing a lot of bow

520
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: hunting for white tails and doing you know, like in

521
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: the month of October, in the month of November, spending

522
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, having a lot of blood trailing experiences throughout

523
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: that time that you're getting that thing where you're going

524
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: along on a trail and all of a sudden you

525
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: hear something crash off in the brush and you just

526
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: get that sinking feeling like, man, this is gonna turn

527
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: into a chase, you know. Yeah, this one comes from Emmett. Renny,

528
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: You're gonna be a great help on this one. Emmett

529
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: would like to go to New Zealand. D I y

530
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: red red stag on public lands. Does not want to

531
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: hire a guide or go to a ranch, not even

532
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: really want to hire you remy I on guide. He'd

533
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: probably go with this orchestrate. He doesn't want to hire

534
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: an orchestrator. An orchestra. What about a concierge. You can

535
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: you can write a few chapters of a book off

536
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: this question, But um I can answer that question. Let

537
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: me back make sure I got it right. He wants

538
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: to go to New Zealand and do a d I

539
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: Y public land red stag hunt. Got it. I don't

540
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: know the answer, but I'm guessing that's hard. Okay, Yeah,

541
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: here's all he has to do. I mean, first he

542
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: has to have realistic expectations if he wants to be successful.

543
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: He's not going to shoot a big giant stag like

544
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: he sees on TV. So if he knows that going

545
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: into it cool, then he'll have a great time. Then

546
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: the only other thing he needs to do just go

547
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: on the Department of Conservation website New Zealand Department of

548
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: Conservation website and study it because it will show him

549
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: essentially everywhere he can go that has red deer to hunt.

550
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: So finding the spot, which is kind of the hard

551
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: part of hunting. Sometimes where should I go? They'll just

552
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: pretty much tell you where to go, and unlike here

553
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: where they just kind of give your general area, they'll

554
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: tell you exactly where you can access the trailhead a

555
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: phone number to call to get permission to cut through land,

556
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: and you can be on your way. I mean, it

557
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't hurt too Maybe make some friends via the social

558
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: media that's out there of people that hunt and kind

559
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: of pick their brains and don't ask them necessarily where

560
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: they hunt, but where they might think about. If you

561
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: go to someone say what do you think about this

562
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: place or this place and be friendly in a conversation,

563
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: you'll probably find that you'll get a lot of help. Yeah,

564
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: it's you have to go out of your way to

565
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: find a kiwi that's not gonna be friendly, friendly and

566
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: give you some info. Yeah, And I mean, I'm sure

567
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: there's some people to take the approach oh stay up.

568
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: But to be honest, most people are like, oh, yeah,

569
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: that's awesome. And really, if I lived in New Zealand

570
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: or whatever and an American was like, hey, you know,

571
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 1: where could I go, I'd be like, I would give

572
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: them information because someday I may want to go hunt

573
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: in America and see what their world's all about. And

574
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 1: it's just a great way to connect with people. I mean,

575
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: I've I've met a lot of cool people while being

576
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: out there, and I've met people on the trails out

577
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: there and been like, oh, hey, next week we're going

578
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: to this spot. Want to come with us? Yeah, I'd

579
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: love to. And you know, it's just uh it's just

580
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: a really friendly hunter friendly place. Aren't there some permit

581
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: draw hunts for red deer? Yeah they are, but um,

582
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: you know that if you're going over for the first time,

583
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: just I wouldn't even worry about it. I just go.

584
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: They are they're they're They're an extremely difficult access the

585
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: permit draws, aren't they in Like it's some part of

586
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 1: the island that's very difficult to be in. Yeah, so

587
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: it's actually getting more popular in a lot of places there.

588
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: There's like a fiord Land Wappety block which is like

589
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: our elk and that's so during the roar is the

590
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: only time you can go in there any other time,

591
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: but there's like permits just during the peak of the rut. Well,

592
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: so that's not red deer um. There's some some of

593
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: the units have read deer, some of the units are

594
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: more elk, A lot of them are crossbread. Okay, I go,

595
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, first time that you don't need to worry

596
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: about messing with that. Yeah. And then there's a there's

597
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: a book you could buy online. It's called spot X.

598
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: It pretty much marks every hunting spot on like a

599
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: really easy to read map tells you how to get there.

600
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: And what the people saw. It's pretty easy. Wow, spot X.

601
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: That guy came to the right place. Many Brandon asks,

602
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: how about a workout guide slash tips for a Midwest

603
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: person planning a fall elk cunt in Montana? I think

604
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: we just did this for a long time, recently talked

605
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: about this subject. Let's move on to different stuff. One

606
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: time I was gonna know, didn't we did? We talk

607
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, in Colorado, just to walk

608
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: all the time up and down. It's not about trying

609
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: to get your neck thicker than your wider years. It's

610
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: about endurance. Can I add something to that though, because

611
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: this is a lot. If it's okay to answer this question,

612
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: then we can just add a little bit. This is

613
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: this is my take because I've you're if you're gonna

614
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: come to Montana wherever and do a hunt, Okay, you're

615
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: doing all this workout to be ready, but you're gonna

616
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: be wearing a pair of boots that you've walked in

617
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: for a couple Just just talk about this. I'm like,

618
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do, here's what you should do. If

619
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna go hunt next year where you're hunting boots

620
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: every day to work. Where are your hunting boots every day? Like,

621
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: if you're gonna wear a stiff pair of boots, a

622
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: pair of Canna track boots takes fifty miles to break in,

623
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: and that's and when you start walking up hill they

624
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: break in different. So whatever boots you're gonna wear, you

625
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: need to wear them every day. Yeah. I was just

626
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: talking about this just as important. And I was saying,

627
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: when people are gonna talking about I'm going on this

628
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: big Old West your hunt, what should I do there?

629
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: I was like, what knife should I get? I'm like, no,

630
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: no, no no, there's two days you need to do. Get

631
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: in good shape and break your boots in. And no

632
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: one ever ever does either of those two things. I

633
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: deal with a lot of people on their first LT

634
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: hunt or like first time out West, or even guys

635
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: that just aren't used to it, come out all hunting.

636
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: Everyone's feet or tore up. They never believe you. They

637
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: can't like there's something in the human mind that cannot

638
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: accept that it takes a long time to break boots

639
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: and boots and feet. Yeah, I mean if your feet,

640
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: I've seen feet that are so tore up it cripples

641
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: you more than being out bad feet. I've seen feet

642
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: problems ruin more hunts than any other cause what I do, um,

643
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: I walk around barefoot. I'm sorry, you're hearing from right

644
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: now from a man who's wearing a pair of ugs.

645
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: These are mugs. They're man hugs. They were made before

646
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: They're from Australia and they were made before uggs ever exists.

647
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: They were a gift. And you're lounging. You're lounging around.

648
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: You know, I should point out he doesn't actually have

649
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: the next, but I do. I do walk around barefoot

650
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: a lot to break my like callous my feet up.

651
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: I walk around like I actually hike barefoot quite often,

652
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: just to get him tough. What's the next, Brad asks, Well,

653
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: he's first. He says, he's a first generation hunter, new father,

654
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: and he's looking forward to the day he can take

655
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 1: his kids out in the field. He's interested to hear

656
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: how you Steve plan on introducing all the thing is

657
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: a lifestyle activity to your kids. Oh uh, that's a

658
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: quick question. Well, my kids like at our house when

659
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: you know, when they when we eat dinner at night,

660
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: we just eat game meat um, and then we talk

661
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: about that. That's the first step. I think that's one

662
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: of the more important steps. First off, is they just

663
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: have that approach, so when they sit down, their assumption

664
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: is is that we're eating dear me um. And I

665
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: think that starts to put I feel that's kind of

666
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: put them in the right mind frame of how to

667
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: think about animals and understanding because it creates a lot

668
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: of conversations about where the stuff comes from, what it requires,

669
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: what kind of sacrifices on our part as society requires

670
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: to you know, maintain productive wildlife populations, and what goes

671
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: into harvesting wildlife, and and getting into conversations about sex

672
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: and death and stuff like that. That's been a that's

673
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: been a key thing and getting my kids interest in

674
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: the outdoors. Um. The other thing that that, uh, that

675
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: I I like to do is is take them out

676
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: um fishing, because I think that kids can you can

677
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: have good experiences fishing with kids much younger than you

678
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: have good experiences hunting with kids. I take them out

679
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: the areas sometimes where it's like high like high action fishing, right,

680
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: catching a lot of fish. But I don't want to

681
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: spoil them like that, so you know, sometimes we'll go

682
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: to areas where it's not high action, But I think

683
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: mainly was trying to make it fun and try to

684
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: force him a little bit and push him a little

685
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: bit and and get in there and bossom around a bit,

686
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: and you know, and showing that the whole that everything

687
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: in life isn't just someone telling you how great you're

688
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: doing it everything, but also to be sensitive to um

689
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: their attention span, whether or not they're comfortable. My dad, uh,

690
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: he pushed us really hard and put us into a

691
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: lot of physically uncomfortable situations. He was a big ice fisherman. Um,

692
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: I froze my fingers bad a couple of times when

693
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: I was a little kid. You know, I kind of

694
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: looked back and marvel that didn't backfire like that. He

695
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: didn't push us away from wanting to be in the

696
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: out of doors with some of the approaches that he took.

697
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: I tried to make those mistakes, but I try to

698
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 1: also realize that you are sort of showing them, um,

699
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: that a good life skill is to be comfortable being uncomfortable.

700
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: And so yeah, just I guess, even though that all

701
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: sounds somewhat contradictory, I guess it's a approaching it not

702
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: in a haphazard way, but but making an approaching way

703
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: where you're sort of thinking it out, making a plan,

704
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: weighing where the kids at what they're doing, and just

705
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: try to act in a conscientious way as you bring

706
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: them into the world. And um, I'm sure there's a

707
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: hundred good ways of doing it, and probably one of

708
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: the keys is to do it in a way where

709
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: you're analyzing, You're you know, you're you're you're thinking about

710
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: your next step, and you're being mindful with it and

711
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: not being blase about it. How about you got young kids? Yeah, no,

712
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: it's been Uh, it's been interesting. I think that, like

713
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: you're saying, being conscientious about how you do it and

714
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: making sure they're having a good time. Um, And I

715
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: think that putting the time in now and really and

716
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: just and just taking a step back and being, um,

717
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: I guess humbled by the situation and just knowing that

718
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: like because I'm always thinking like, oh, I'm squeezing an

719
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: antilope punt, I'll take my daughter with me. Well I'm

720
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: not really squeezing an anilop punt at that point. It's

721
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: like I'm taking my daughter hunting. And it's like it

722
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: just changes the whole game. You have to be out

723
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: there not really thinking like, Okay, what am I gonna

724
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: do to kill an antilope? It's like what am I

725
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: gonna do to make sure she enjoys herself? Yeah, maybe

726
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: we'll kill something, maybe we won't. But um, and I

727
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: think that I think I could see, I could see

728
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: how would be very easy. I don't know it's many

729
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: people to do this, but I can see how it

730
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: can it be very easy to say, oh, I'm gonna

731
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: hunt with them when they're like older and they turn

732
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: into you know, more mature people, and then they can

733
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: just hunt with me as opposed to happen to go

734
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: through the process that we're going through now late Well, yeah, exactly,

735
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: it's kind of too late. We're like, like you're saying,

736
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: start them off fishing with some high action fishing, because

737
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: you know then that will turn them into like big

738
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: game hunters. Although I've taken her probably on just so

739
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: many big game hunters as I have fishing trips. Um,

740
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: it's you know, a carrier on my shoulders all the

741
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: way up to top of the ridge. Then we make

742
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: like a yard walk down the ridge and I carrier

743
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: in the dark, you know, back down to the truck.

744
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: You know that's kind of the end of the hunt. Um,

745
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: but it's uh yeah, it's like just taking the time now,

746
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: I feel like and then hope. I'm hoping then in

747
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: five years it's gonna pay off. Oh yeah, you can't

748
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: all of a sudden wait to your kids like a

749
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: teenager and be like, sound, there's this thing I like

750
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, it's just like, you know, maybe that

751
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: will work for you, but it's not gonna be as good.

752
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: Another trick I try, I should call a trick. Another

753
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: thing that I noticed works for people and it works

754
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: well for me is don't start filling your kids heads

755
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: up with ideas of like big white tails or certain

756
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: fish being cool and certain not fish not being cool,

757
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: and like, oh, king salmon, now that's a great fish.

758
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: But pink salmon, you know, if we catch one, sure,

759
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: but may think it's king salmon. You know, when you

760
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: kid catch the fish, it is it is time to celebrate.

761
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's you know, a mountain whitefish

762
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 1: or a pink salmon, or a bluegill or a rock

763
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: bass or a chub. It's like when your kid catch

764
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: the fish, that's something. Bitching fish is the coolest thing.

765
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: In the world. You've always wanted to get one like that.

766
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: You go home, you make a big deal out of

767
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: cooking that fish. Moms, like, man, that's the best fish

768
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I ever had, Right, it's exciting. It's not like there

769
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: is no like, oh, it's just a pinky there's a

770
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: pink salmon. No, it's like, man, dude, you call the

771
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: coolest fish in the ocean, because like they're just you know,

772
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean, kids are simple, man, I mean there's like, uh,

773
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: they put a high value on getting approval from people

774
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: they respect and um, and for me, I don't need

775
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: to act like I think chubbs and pink salmon are cool.

776
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: I do think they're cool. And I let them know

777
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: that I think they're cool, and then you know, I

778
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: kind of amplified a little bit and just like that

779
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: kind of encouragement. Man, what's another question, Johnnie. Was there

780
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: ever a hunt or a view? I'm guessing a view

781
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: as in like a beautiful landscape they got you emotional

782
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: or in parentheses cry what was it? Now? This is

783
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: under the category of miscellaneous fun. Oh yeah, yeah, I'll say, Okay,

784
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: was there ever? So the question is was there ever?

785
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: I will say yes, there was yes, there was no

786
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: oh really yeah, uh couple of yeah, some of were

787
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: too hard to explain. Um. One example was watching a

788
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: One example was watching uh a indigenous you know, and

789
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: an indigenous person in in South America build an arrow

790
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: with native materials. Um. One was like living somewhere a

791
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: long time and then moving away a long time, and

792
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: then going back to that somewhere and kind of remembering

793
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: a lot of things that happened there. Ship like that. Yeah,

794
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 1: very a different times handful of things. And then things

795
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: surrounding you know, um, my dad dying and my dad

796
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: at old age wasn't like he died young, but like, yeah,

797
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: things surrounding my dad dying in time we spent in

798
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: the out of doors definitely happens. Well you yeah. I

799
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: mean I can think of lots since I mean like actually,

800
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: um yeah, like the first first d that meal deary

801
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: that I shot with my recurve, you know, I mean

802
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: it was like a very you know, I was like, okay, well,

803
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of work went into it

804
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: and it happens, and I think that's you know, it

805
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: can be like a rush of emotion. Um yeah. I

806
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of things that I've seen. It

807
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: was like, holy cow, that's a crazy view. And it

808
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: makes you really sit and think about things. I mean,

809
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: I remember one time sitting um actually where you guys

810
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: went to deer hunting this year, up on that ridge,

811
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: and I mean, it's a moment I'll remember for the

812
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: rest of my life and just laying up looking at

813
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: the stars and it's like on the top of that

814
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: ridge the stars are almost below you, and thinking, oh

815
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: my god, I feel so small, you know, so this

816
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: is weird just being here, you know, those kind of thoughts.

817
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: I was there day I took my six year old.

818
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 1: My six year old played hooky with me for half

819
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,720
Speaker 1: the day because I took him to the rifle range

820
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: and we're coming back from the rifle range and we

821
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: drove by, uh a house we were renting before we

822
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: moved into the house we recently purchased. And as we

823
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: were driving, we're driving over a bridge and we were

824
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: looking at a beach where we would always swim and

825
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: looking at a place where we would fish perch and

826
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: my six year old and I was like, oh, yeah,

827
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: I remember, Jimmy, this is like you know, and you know,

828
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: it had only been a year ago, but when you're six.

829
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: It's like a humongost check of your life. Right. And

830
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: he said to me, he says, sometimes I'll remember things

831
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: and it makes me cry inside my brain, but in

832
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: a happy way. And I'm like, yeah, man, I don't

833
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, dude, zick what you're talking

834
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, I can't follow that one up. Jimmy

835
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: gets the quote of the night. That's a good one. Uh.

836
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: Does the state target beginner hunters with once in a

837
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: lifetime tags out of the assumption they're less likely to

838
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: fill their tag? No? No, next question they won't even know.

839
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: Does hunting become work when it's your job? Is that

840
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: a trick question? No? Okay, that was inherently that was

841
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: a paraphrase version. When my season, this is the full question.

842
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: When my season ends in December, I start to think

843
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: about next season, doing it month after month. Does it

844
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: take away your love for the outdoors, for the excitement

845
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: of the accomplishments? I guess what I'm saying. Does it

846
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: just become your job? No? No, I mean I'm very

847
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: aware of what my job is. Oh, but here here's

848
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: a good way of putting now. And I'd be curious

849
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: to hear Rammy's take on it. Um, I guess my job,

850
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: my job has My job was like to two things, right,

851
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: So it's having experiences as a part of my job.

852
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: Translating experiences is a part of my job. I think

853
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: that having the experiences is really no difference, really like

854
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: very similar to probably anyone's enjoyment of like meaningful life experiences.

855
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: Right like when I'm out doing it, if we're out

856
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: on a hunt, you know, the old before like a

857
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: hunt that I was gonna write about, or now we're

858
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: out filming a hunt, the actual hunting part. It just

859
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: feels like having an experience that you want to have

860
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: and it's playing out how it plays out the work

861
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: for me, And I don't mean and I don't use

862
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: work in a negative way because I'd love to work.

863
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: The work for me is or the job aspect is

864
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: translating it into something that that is pleasurable, entertaining, informative

865
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: for other people. I guess that's like the work part.

866
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: But I love that part. But I think of that

867
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: as the work part. I don't think of like when

868
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: we're actually out on the mountain, you know, like filming

869
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: a hunt. I don't know it doesn't feel to me

870
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: at all like, um, like, oh man, I'm at work.

871
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: I'll say to people, I'm like, yeah, we know, well

872
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: we're out at work. We eat a lot of mountain house.

873
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: But it's just like a sort of a shorthand way

874
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: of explaining that I'm out. But it doesn't feel like that.

875
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's different you guys who are there because

876
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: you're not actually hunting, and then you know Remy, I'm

877
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: sure it's got different. I think from a person to person.

878
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: I think all of us on our crew and a

879
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: lot of people that we hunt with, you know, like Remy,

880
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: we're brought up in families where work ethic was pushed

881
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: very hard. Are like we're not scared of the hard

882
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: work and the physical work, and it's not like you

883
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: go like you're not dreading that out there. I mean,

884
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people that would come on days with

885
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: us and be like the hell with that, but like

886
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: for us, it's it's fun and so yeah, I think

887
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: I think when in quotations, when people say that like

888
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: doesn't become work, it's like, no, it's like we're lucky

889
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: enough that our in quotations work is this great thing

890
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: that we enjoy. Yeah, productive, Like I'm only happy like

891
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: being productive. It could be like being productive as a parent,

892
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: or or being helpful and productive as a husband, or

893
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 1: being you know, like like I I don't like idole.

894
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: I don't like idle moments. And so when we're out,

895
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: it's like two fold because one one thing is you're

896
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: out doing something that I love and have always loved

897
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: and that I set out wanting to find a way

898
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: to make it work as for a living. And the

899
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: other hand, I am doing something, I'm producing something, and

900
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,479
Speaker 1: so yeah, I just I feel nothing, but but good

901
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: I do. I'd have to agree with you though. For

902
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: me as a cameraman, it is work with the duty

903
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: to the responsibility to capture what you're trying to convey

904
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: to the larger public, like that the physical activity, the

905
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: long days, whatever that's in like camaraderies all there's a

906
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: big technical aspect for you because you're dealing with love equipment.

907
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: So it is it's definitely a combination of like, this

908
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: is exactly what I want to do, but also like

909
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: there's this uh accountability for what we're experiencing, and it's

910
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: work to stay focused on that. Like you can't just

911
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: internalize this experience you're having to work to, you know,

912
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: keep track of it and make sure you capture it

913
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: to its best ability. But it's it's definitely different than

914
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: most people's work. Oh yeah, no, you like you as

915
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: a caraman, I would be more like you said, like, yeah,

916
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 1: like you've been working all day, like you've been doing

917
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: your craft all day. Yeah, I've been doing the same.

918
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: So like you know what I'm hunting. It's like like

919
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: the way we work though, um, the hunts are the

920
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: hunts are like in large measure, what happens is what

921
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: would happen in the absence of the cameras without a doubt. Yeah,

922
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean to to almost like a stunning degree, we

923
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: found a way to do it where like where where

924
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: what would happen is happening. There's some things that that

925
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: that are that are different. Everything seems to take a

926
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: little bit longer, a little bit different, But you know

927
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: it doesn't bother me. We're it's like we're out there

928
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 1: like um, like like creating some creating some false spectacle. Yeah,

929
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like I've never worked. I haven't worked

930
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: a day in my life in my job. While working

931
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: extremely hard at the same time, because I enjoy it,

932
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: Like if I wasn't, I feel like when it becomes work,

933
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: it is definitely difficult. Otherwise everyone would do it. You know,

934
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: there is an element where you have to really dig

935
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: in and work really hard. I mean, I was telling

936
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: you the other day, Well, I'm actually I'm just like

937
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: a lifestyle guy. I loved hunting so much. I knew

938
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: since I was a kid that I wouldn't hunt. I

939
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: could hunt every day. I'm the type of person that

940
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: I could just do this every day. And when I

941
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: graduated and was a younger man, I said, how am

942
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: I gonna be able to hunt every day as I'm

943
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it guiding. So when I

944
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: first started guiding, I worked my ass off. I mean

945
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: I would pack out elk all night long just to

946
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: be there, show back up first thing in the morning

947
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: to go back out again to be successful, and constantly

948
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: be hunting. Remy would have his clients back sleeping and

949
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: he would go out in the dark and walk looking

950
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: for tracks in the snow. Oh yeah, I would. I

951
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: would go out and scout just like drive roads, looking

952
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: for where elk we're crossing, you know, look for tracks anything,

953
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: come back, pick him up head back, you know, just

954
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean because it was tough work, but I loved

955
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: it because it's like, this is how I can be

956
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 1: outside hunting all the time. And then over the years

957
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: it's morphed into other things TV, this, that and the

958
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: other thing. But still I only do it because that's

959
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: the way that I want to live. So as long

960
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: as I can make a means to be out there hunting,

961
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 1: it's it's the same as it's always been. Now there's

962
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: times where yeah, you feel like, oh dude, and and

963
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: it's maybe a little bit different for me. I think

964
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: if I had a family and other things, then would

965
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 1: feel more like an obligation, whereas you guys, you guys

966
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 1: have that because you have other obligations. I have at

967
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: this point no other obligations, so I don't have that

968
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: pressure of when I go out hunting, it's not me

969
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: detracting from other obligations I have in life, you know,

970
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: it's it's my only obligation. So for me, it never

971
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: feels like like work. But I could see it some

972
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: times feeling hard, like just like anything where but I

973
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: don't think it would ever take away my love of hunting. Yeah,

974
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: that is a big downside is the family is she?

975
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: But I think that probably goes beyond the I'd speak

976
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: to that, but it kind of goes beyond the scope

977
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: with the of the question is asked, what's next? Yes, Um,

978
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: we've done this one before, but I think we can

979
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: just touch on it again because I think are about

980
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: the Clintons and the wolves. That's actually true. Ran into

981
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: a guy today, right, Oh yeah, tracks wolves? Yeah? Can

982
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: we talk about this guy? No? I don't think all right. Oh,

983
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: but the question is, um, how do you air travel

984
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: with meat? Oh? Do these coolers and dry ice regulations

985
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: of the airlines approximate cost um? We have a very

986
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: good sece them, um when it comes to butchering your

987
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: own So we butcher our own stuff. And here's what

988
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: we do when we're traveling. If we get it, when

989
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: we kill an animal, we butcher it into primal cuts,

990
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: so basically break it down into into muscles. And then

991
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: we have trim bags. Okay, so you gotta broken down

992
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: your big muscles, anything you're gonna grind up for burger sausages, whatever,

993
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: We call that trim. We put all of it into

994
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: gallon sized ziplocks labeled put a real good chill on

995
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: it or if need be, freeze it. Then pack those

996
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: into coolers. Now we use the soft sided YETI coolers

997
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: those forty as forty Yettie hoppers because they don't weigh anything.

998
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: Because when you pack, when you check a bag on

999
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: the airline, you know it's it's gotta be fifty pounds

1000
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: or else you gotta pay extra. So when I load

1001
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: a box up with fifty pounds of meat, I want

1002
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: to be as much meat and as little cooler as possible.

1003
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: So that's why we started using those hoppers, because you're

1004
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: when you pack a fifty pound box, you got forty

1005
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: plus pounds of meat and not like half and half

1006
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: cooler to meat ratio. Fly at home, then as soon

1007
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: as we get home, we divvy that up. Take those

1008
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: bags home, properly, wrap them and freeze them. What do

1009
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: you uh, what will you normally chill them in? It

1010
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: could be anything. Man, We've done someone We've gone up

1011
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: and gone in, eating in a restaurant and then being like,

1012
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: hey man, here's the deal, right, we have ben had

1013
00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: cold weather and chilled them outside. I've done I explained

1014
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: another thing I've done before and kind of got in

1015
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: trouble with it when I mentioned it on a I

1016
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: was on an NPR program once and mentioned the strategy

1017
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: I had for chilling meat and then the rate, and

1018
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: then they got a couple of complaints that I heard about, um,

1019
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: and I got reprimanded by it from the network for

1020
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: saying what it was. But that's a good it's a

1021
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: good meat chilling strategy. Um. Other what you put chill

1022
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: on stuff, well, I would say, we gotta be you

1023
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: gotta be cautious with the hoppers and dry ice. Oh ship, yeah, man,

1024
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: those things are air tight. Don't put dry ice in

1025
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: the hopperable up like a hand garnaide. You know what

1026
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: you can do though? Yeah, but I think because the airlines,

1027
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: if there's a potential for it, I stick a straw

1028
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: in there and then I'm like, it's vent Yeah, I

1029
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: don't you we don't. We don't use dry ice just right.

1030
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: We did one time we have overnight at the hotel.

1031
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah out yea one night. We couldn't find a good

1032
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: chill player. But you know, a lot of guys man

1033
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: like like some taxidermists have coolers, some butchers have Some

1034
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: butchers will do meat storage. The Seattle Airport, for instance,

1035
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: has a has a guy there I can't remember. His

1036
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: name was like Ken's like freezer and he's right in

1037
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: Sea Tech Airport and you can bring him a box

1038
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: and he just put in the freezer and charge you

1039
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: like a nominal fee to leave it in his freezer.

1040
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: We've gone in and uh, not long ago I gave

1041
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: We had a guy go home with the meat. He

1042
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: just went to his hotel. They found some freezer space

1043
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: for him. Some hotel rooms have those little mini fridges. Uh.

1044
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: We're just out in Colorado hunting and we had a

1045
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: place that had one fridge. Turned the freeze around full blast,

1046
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: put everything into put everything in the freeze, or you

1047
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: can put turn the fridge all the way down, putting

1048
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: the fridge, swap it around. You know. It's like once

1049
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: you get the body heat off an animal and get

1050
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: a chilled it's remarkably stable. Man, it's remarkably stable. I

1051
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: do a lot of the same same things you guys do,

1052
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: but just a reminder if you do try to use

1053
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: dry ice, to throw it on top, not the bottom,

1054
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: because it'll freeze if it's on top, but if it's

1055
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 1: on the bottom, it'll just refrigerate whatever is in there.

1056
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: If you're trying to freeze it. Oh, if you lay

1057
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: something up, yeah, as long as because the dry ice

1058
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: the cold drops, so the temperature is actually colder underneath

1059
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: dry ice. Then if you put the meat on top

1060
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: of the dry ice, and so you're saying loaded. So

1061
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: if you want to, you can use dry ice to

1062
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: refrigerate or to freeze. So if you want to use

1063
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: dry ice to refrigerate, you put dry ice on the

1064
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: bottom of the cooler, your meat on top of, like

1065
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 1: above the dry ice. If you want to use dry

1066
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: ice to freeze, you put the meat in the cooler

1067
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: on the bottom and dry ice on top of the meat.

1068
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: You know that. That's funny you mentioned that because I've

1069
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: seen that where um trying to chill stuff in coolers

1070
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: in the hotel. We just went and bought a few whatever,

1071
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: like one two palm blocks dry ice, and then I

1072
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: threw the dry ice on top and it froze solid. Yeah,

1073
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 1: froze the damn meat. Yeah. Yeah, started freezing the meat

1074
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: downward slid. Yeah. Yeah, actually freeze it like colder than

1075
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 1: a freezer. One. My kids love to play with that stuff. Man,

1076
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I found I've always done it that way.

1077
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: But I also found a new method that I'm trying

1078
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: out and I'm just um, you can find if you

1079
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: can find a place ahead of time, if you know

1080
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: where you're hunting, that will air freight it because you

1081
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: have to have a licensed air freight. So I used

1082
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: to have that license and then after then I had that.

1083
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 1: I had an air freight license, but it changed after

1084
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: so but the air freight, So from Alaska, I could

1085
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: I got a whole moose home for a hundred and

1086
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: fifty bucks air freight. I used to have what was

1087
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: called known shipper status un Alaska Airlines, and you could

1088
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: go and check a bag and not be on the plane.

1089
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: You could send the thing down. Your body just goes

1090
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: down to the baggage claim, picks up your bag and

1091
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: walks up the door before you can do with the

1092
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: air freight. Air freight. Um, as far as the cost

1093
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 1: aspect of that, so we all fly a fair bit,

1094
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: you know I have on Alaska Airlines, you know I have.

1095
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: You get the frequent flyers status. IOUs get my first

1096
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: two oftentimes my first three bags free. Um. But if

1097
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: you're not doing that, I mean you're it's go on

1098
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 1: the airline's website and find out what extra baggage costs are.

1099
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 1: I know some guys that to save costs bringing meat

1100
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: home that will go to an FFL send their rifle home.

1101
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: So you can send your rifle to yourself. Um, you

1102
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: don't even need to use an FFL to send it

1103
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: to yourself. If you're gonna be on the receiving end.

1104
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: Orders guys to just do rifles shipping where they package

1105
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: it up and ship it down to you charge of

1106
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: small fee. It's cheaper than having an extra bag. And

1107
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: then they'll take all their clothes and any kind of

1108
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: light bulky items put in the box and send a

1109
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: ups ground and get it. So they're gonna own check

1110
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: like one to three bags on the airline and have

1111
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: to be there just flying home with their meat so

1112
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: they can get it there quick and not try to

1113
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 1: be sending it ups or something like that because it's

1114
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, overnighting or two day and can be very expensive.

1115
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: So they'll mail their gear home fly home with their meat. Yeah,

1116
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: and you can only mail your rife firearm through United

1117
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: States Postal Service. You cannot use but you can go down.

1118
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: This is kind of like a little known fact man,

1119
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: as you can if you're gonna be the one that

1120
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 1: opens if you're gonna be the one that receives it.

1121
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: You can opens it, you can send it. It's not

1122
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: an FFL transfer core for you to send your gun

1123
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: to someone. But all over place, like all over places,

1124
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: they're like hunting destinations. There are services that will box

1125
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: and ship your rifle. Yeah, through the United States, so

1126
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: through yeah, but that's just like they'll just you know,

1127
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: they got all the yeah, because you can't just you know,

1128
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:58,439
Speaker 1: you have to you gotta package it up and stuff. So, um,

1129
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: you've got time for one more. This would be a

1130
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: good quickie and uh get some nice tips out of it.

1131
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: But um, I forget the guy's name to ask with

1132
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: the gal. But favorite piece of gear under twenty bucks. Hmm,

1133
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: think about it. One piece of gear, one piece if

1134
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: you have to, you can say two. If you have

1135
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: two favorites, go your answer. I'm just still thinking cigarette

1136
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: lighters and then um, chunks paracord. That that's what I

1137
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: would have said. Dang it, that just got yeah paracord lighter.

1138
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean use it for everything that's way less than bucks.

1139
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: You still got you got because you got left. Yeah,

1140
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: because the striker on the jet boil doesn't last long.

1141
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: It's like a cigarette lighter, dude, It's like, yeah, what's

1142
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: the thing you camping you got cause you got your

1143
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: load around it lighter? You need four? You have four lighters,

1144
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: one for every pocket, jackets all over. At the end

1145
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: of the trip, you'll barely be able to find one. Yeah,

1146
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: you'd be like yeah, and then you'd be the guy

1147
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: who goes like, hey, do you kep on? You get

1148
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: your lighter on? You duct tape? Put some duct tape

1149
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: on your lighter or your steve yeah you know, I

1150
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: like yeah, put like, um, yeah, I wrapped duct tape

1151
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: around my lighters. And different people use different colors. You

1152
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: can kind of claim your lighter wrapped my nalgene bottle

1153
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: or whatever with it. But in para cord, it's like

1154
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Yeah, I mean when it comes

1155
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: to hunt, it's just like I always have a chunk

1156
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: of para cord. Oh zip, I carry zip strips, cable ties.

1157
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: Those are inexpensive. I use those for last suff putting

1158
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: tags on animals, but also just like various repairs, backpack fixes.

1159
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean lots of like in my little kit, which

1160
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: is a very small bag, but it's it's put together

1161
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: in a precise way. Um. I guess nothing in that

1162
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: the bag itself about eighty bucks from outdoor research. No, no, no, no, no,

1163
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: they're not that the no, the little uh the bad

1164
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: country organizing, back country organizer, what do they Okay, so

1165
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: that's not that gear, my outdoor research, backhuntry organizer. Nothing

1166
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: in that bag, um, including like a little bit kid

1167
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: I have with a with a bit that fits all

1168
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: the things like your bo parts, rifle scope parts, whatever

1169
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: kind of bit, whatever bit kid I grab for what

1170
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm doing that doesn't even cost twenty bucks, and an

1171
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 1: indore I got like my med kid, which definitely doesn't

1172
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: cost twenty bucks. Japstick Grammy doesn't carry that um which

1173
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: doesn't cost twenty bucks. You start a fire with chastick though,

1174
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: that's my you know what my fires, you know, my

1175
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: go to fire starter is now taking belly button line.

1176
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: No close uh, because the t s A guys don't

1177
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: want you flying around with the chemical arders. I take

1178
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: cotton balls. I take one of dirt miss chew tins, Okay,

1179
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: and then I take cotton balls and rubbed vass lene

1180
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: into cotton balls, pack those in there and then I

1181
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 1: take heartwood, slivers of heartwood and put it in the

1182
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: chew tins. So in my chew tin is vas leine,

1183
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: rubbed cotton balls, and a shipload to fit in there.

1184
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 1: Some heartwood sticks are in there, and that's it. And

1185
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: then I have vas lean when I need it. If

1186
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: you need to protect your if bad wind chap or

1187
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: you know, chap lips that it doesn't happen to remy

1188
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: or any nuther things. You got chast with Manny. Those

1189
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: little balls light right up and start fires, great man,

1190
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: and the t s a guys don't steal them. That

1191
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: is definitely does a cost of twenty bucks, I found

1192
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: there's some good like some surprisingly cheap headlamps that are

1193
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: really good too, like the ones you get at home depots,

1194
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: some energizer ones or ray Vack ones or some battery

1195
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: company ones. I got the world's most expensive headlines and

1196
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: it's just as good as the seventeen dollar energizer that

1197
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: No one asked about the headlines, but I got some

1198
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: real opinions about headlands. Will say that for an our time, Dirt,

1199
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: you got any things you like to cost twenty bucks?

1200
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: I think like you get drunk. Yeah, transportation. No, I'd

1201
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: say for sure, just a kit. You gotta have a kid,

1202
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: and you can do it for under twenty bucks. Just

1203
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: put it in something that stays organized. It's like, no,

1204
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 1: you can't make the whole kid for owner twenty bucks.

1205
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,440
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean the basics, like lighter pechord,

1206
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: the pcord that we buy, well, yeah, fifty, it's like

1207
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 1: fifty yards of that or yeah, everything in my kit

1208
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: added up is worth well over twenty but nothing in there,

1209
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: no individual part of my kit excluding the O R.

1210
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 1: Bad Country Organizer. What kind of what bag do you

1211
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: run for your stuff? Same? You run the same thing? Yeah,

1212
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: what do you use? Remy kind of dumps it all

1213
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: into his backpack and it spends all this day looking

1214
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: for it. You know when I when I'm using my

1215
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: normal backpack, everything has a specific place and I have

1216
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: specific pockets. Okay, so this I've just been seeing you,

1217
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: even seeing me frazzled my friends. He had known I was.

1218
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: They're producing a great adbundage. Not the one I wanted though, Um, Johnny,

1219
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 1: twenty dollar piece of gear, something that probably lives in

1220
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 1: my little war back country kit. I'm trying to think

1221
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 1: something you guys haven't mentioned war Snake, but I don't know.

1222
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: It might be over twenty bucks. They I think, I

1223
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: think you're a penny editor. You're saying, there's no way

1224
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna come and tell me that that's your most

1225
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: chairsh No, you guys like you know, picked out all

1226
01:10:56,240 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: the good stuff out that little kid um you know

1227
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: Len's wife is a is a pretty nice piece of

1228
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: gear that's well under twenty bucks. I always love to

1229
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: have a wyndicator, like a tube of powder unsented talk pop. Yeah,

1230
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: And like, I think it's bullshit that people are always

1231
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: trying to like being like, man, that four dollars it

1232
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 1: costs me for that vindicator because whatever they do, they

1233
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: somehow make the puff these stuff so much better and

1234
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: finer than when you use it all up. And then

1235
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm just gonna throw some baby powder in there.

1236
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: Hunt with so many guys that are pulling out there,

1237
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, big fat tube of baby powder and they're

1238
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 1: shaking it. It ain't coming out, it's clogged whatever that

1239
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,840
Speaker 1: it's what they put in there, I believe, And I

1240
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I've never tried to find it in bulk.

1241
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: It's unscented talc powder, which is baby powder. It's just talk,

1242
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: isn't it. I don't know. Unsented baby powder smells like

1243
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: like well we think babies smell like, is actually powder.

1244
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,640
Speaker 1: I liked it. This is probably super simple, but I

1245
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: just had thought of it for your wind indicator. My lighter. Yeah, yeah,

1246
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 1: that's all I use. It depends if I'm like around here,

1247
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: I grab that. Yeah, just crumple it and click it,

1248
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: and the spark in it just makes it smoke for

1249
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 1: a while. But a lot of times I just used

1250
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: the flame itself. Yeah, tell the wind direction. I mean

1251
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: you can't really sense thermals and other things. But for

1252
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: the most part, I flick the lighter depending on which

1253
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 1: way that flames blowing. I know. And it's nice too

1254
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: because I can use it in the dark. So I

1255
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: I that's I keep my lighter as my wind indicator. Yeah,

1256
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: I use like um and I use the grass as well. Yeah,

1257
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: bits of grass, seed, tops, all stuff. Um. Dust like

1258
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: the main thing, like if it's there, if it's dry,

1259
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: just dust, but if it's wet out. The reason I

1260
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: liked a little and I'm not like a habitual what

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Speaker 1: do you call those things? The week caround like wind

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Speaker 1: indicator windicator. It's just a tube of powder, like a

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Speaker 1: little bottle of powder. Shoot it up the air. It

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Speaker 1: does give you a really sort of like nuanced understanding

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Speaker 1: of the whim when it hangs, like it'll go up

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01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 1: and you'll see that there's like some downward you know

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. It gives you like a great visual.

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Speaker 1: But I only use that after I sort of go

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Speaker 1: I like, do a quick look around. I'm like, there's

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Speaker 1: no like readily, you know, and then I'll that thing

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Speaker 1: or I'll pull a little down feather out of my

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Speaker 1: jacket and just we pull at all of those drop. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say, actually with the gear question, this is

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Speaker 1: this brings up a good point this most recent discussion.

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Speaker 1: It should have multiple purposes whatever it is under the bucks,

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Speaker 1: like the lighter being a syndicator and a light and

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: then you know, yeah, I'll not gonna look at my

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Speaker 1: kit and be like, you know what this It seems

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01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,120
Speaker 1: like this thing you have to have in there, but

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Speaker 1: twenty years down the road you've never used it. It

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01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: hasn't come up yet. Like for I used to carry

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Speaker 1: a striker, so I would carry a I have a

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Speaker 1: little teeny dinky thing of waterproof matches's just a couple,

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01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: and I have my lighter, and I used to have

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Speaker 1: a striker. Never used a striker, just like it used

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Speaker 1: the waterproof matches, probably, But that just gives me that

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Speaker 1: that makes me feel like or now I put a

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Speaker 1: little what's that like saying it's a comfortable. But they

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01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: also make those little ship and lighters too, so I

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: might start throwing one of those little ship and lighters

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Speaker 1: a little. It's just a striker, just like like a

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01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: like a like a cigarette lighter and a teeny teeny.

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01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: But see here's the thing. The t s a guys

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01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: will steal your lighters and leave a note. Now you

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01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 1: just keep him on you. I know that thing, you

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01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: got that, but you gotta remember. So now like lithium

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Speaker 1: batteries like in my kit, I also keep like enough

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Speaker 1: like replacing battery for stuff. So if I'm running like

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Speaker 1: my uh my, my water pure fire starry pen, they're

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01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: gonna have in my kit an extra lithium battery for

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01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 1: that thing. But now you can't have lithium batteries. So

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01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: now there's all this garbage you gotta move from your

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01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: you gotta like and I can't just check my kit

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: because there's stuff. There's stuff in there that you can't

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01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: carry on, but then there's stuff in there that you

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 1: can't check. It's really like, I have some gripes. You

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01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: think I'm fired up a by how I hate hunters

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01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,560
Speaker 1: orange laws. I got some real gripes of t s A,

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Speaker 1: I believe it, and then messing with my stuff. All right, good,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening. How many questions is that? Ny? I

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01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: don't know ten probably answered other questions in the perfect

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Speaker 1: So if you want to find out, Rummy wears the

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Speaker 1: best place for people to go see what you all

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Speaker 1: got going on, and they want to book a hunt,

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: come hunting elk with you whatever. I'm all booked up.

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Speaker 1: But Instagram, yeah, Remy Warren, Yeah yeah, I just I

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Speaker 1: just I just I just hit I was just hitting

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Speaker 1: Rammy up on Instagram or because we've been hanging out

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Speaker 1: for the last couple of days. Um, that's a good

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Speaker 1: place to check out see what you've got going up.

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Speaker 1: And there's the you know, in the in the bio,

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Speaker 1: there's always a link to whatever website or whatever. So

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Speaker 1: all right, man, check him out. Remmy Warren, his great

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Speaker 1: great grandfather was a you translator. I'll tell you that

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Speaker 1: no one asked about that. UM all right, good night,