1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Here we go, the official show on the fish Stripes 2 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: podcast channel, presented by Symbol the Stock Market for Sports. 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: It's Eli Sussman, managing editor at Fish Stripes, as usual, 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: here to talk about your Miami Marlins. We are a 5 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: little bit more than one quarter of the way through 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: this twenty twenty one regular season. The Marlins here on Thursday, 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: standing at nineteen and twenty three overall, just a few 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: games out of first place, a few games out of 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: the wild card, only a few games up on last place. 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Everything is still wide open at this stage of the year. 11 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: We are honestly at least one month away from any 12 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: possibility of a sexy trade, and really two months away 13 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: from that serious action that follows the All Star break. 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: But we've reached a point where I think you could 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: say this about every team, but especially with the Marlins, 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: that the pieces they have right now don't fit together ideally, 17 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: that this is not the combination of players that will 18 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: be together if this team is going to be a 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: contender all season long, that things will look a lot 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: different later in this summer no matter what, just based 21 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: on some of the cracks that are showing in this team. 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: Despite the overall fact that they've been relatively successful, and 23 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: at the very least, I understand the obvious fan interest 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: to speculate as to how exactly this team could change 25 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: as things moving forward. That's why most of this episode 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: is going to be about trade value updates, going through 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: a lot of individual players on the Marlins as well 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: as several on other teams, and approximating exactly what those 29 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: guys are worth on the market right now and what 30 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: the Marlins would have to do to acquire those players 31 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: or how much they would how much they are all 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: players are actually intriguing to other teams, getting a realistic 33 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: sense of where things stand as we're still relatively early 34 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: on in the year, but understandably looking forward to seeing 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: some big changes that could change the trajectory of this team, 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: either for twenty twenty one or how already making some 37 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: decisions about how things line up in twenty twenty two 38 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: and beyond. To lead off the episode, we focus on 39 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: the two guys that should be top of mind for 40 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: every Marlins fan right now. First, at the major league level, 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: coming off yet another win, another quality start, a career 42 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: start in several aspects, Left hander Trevor Rodgers, who, as 43 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: covered on the small pod this morning on the same 44 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: podcast feed that from Daniel Rodriguez. He had a great outing, 45 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: going a career high seven and two thirds endings pitched 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: against the Phillies, striking out eight, being pretty terrific outside 47 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: of one solo home run that he allowed, and thankfully 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: the offense gave him just another run support in this 49 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: one to hold on for yet another Marlins win. Despite 50 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: the run, his ERA ticks down just a little bit, 51 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: even lower from where it was entering the game. He is, 52 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: by any measure, one of the best pitchers in baseball. 53 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: And you know me, I'm someone that is hesitant before 54 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: crowning these guys. I stay away from hyperbole. I'd like 55 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: to see that sample size play out. I like to 56 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: see how some of these young players adjust to the league, 57 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: how the league adjust to them. And at this stage 58 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: of the season, Trevor Rodgers, even combining last year, only 59 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: sixteen total major league starts, so that's essentially a half 60 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: season's worth of experience. There's a lot to change with 61 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: him moving forward. We have not yet figured out exactly 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: who he is, but it is safe to say that 63 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: he is a phenomenal player that you like. You can 64 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: already have this discussion about whether or not he's the 65 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: best pitcher on this Marlins team, and whether or not 66 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: there are many left handed pitchers in all of baseball 67 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: that do what Trevor Rodgers does, and you could see 68 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: it even going back to twenty twenty and especially during 69 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: spring training, that he had all the ingredients that he 70 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: had this, I mean, everything that you need to work 71 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: off as a pitcher is a quality fastball, one that 72 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: has good velocity, one that has good movement, one that 73 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: has good location, and one that you can are comfortable 74 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: using in any situation. And Trevor has always had that. 75 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Certainly as he's been in pro ball, that fastball velocity 76 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: has steadily ticked up as he has filled out that 77 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: large six foot five frame, and we've reached a point 78 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: where it's one of the best fastballs that any left 79 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: hander throws in baseball. That combination of v lo. He 80 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: topped out at ninety seven last night, and that is 81 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: the norm almost every start. He's hitting ninety seven. He 82 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: is sitting in the mid nineties, and he's putting that 83 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: pitch wherever he wants to against both lefties and righties. 84 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: The changeup is arguably even better of a weapon that 85 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: he has. He throws it again against either handedness, He 86 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: throws it to either side of the plate and the 87 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: way that he disguises it coming out of his hands. 88 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: Compared to his fastball, it is getting so many whiffs 89 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: and getting him in so many favorable counts. The progress 90 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: with his slider, and that was his big emphasis here 91 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, is that he wanted to get 92 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: that up to being a plus pitch. Maybe he was 93 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: an average pitch coming into the year, and it was 94 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: probably below average as recently as twenty nineteen. The work 95 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: that he has put into it has paid off. It 96 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: continues to get great results, and with those three pitches alone, 97 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: we'll see as the years go by whether or not 98 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: he expands that repertoire even more. He probably doesn't need to. 99 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean, those three pitches are exceptional, and his understanding 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: of when to use them, why to use them in 101 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: certain situations it very quickly has him at the top 102 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: of the National League Rookie of the Year race. I 103 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: think as this comes a day after MLB Pipeline updated 104 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: their rookie rankings and they actually put Jazzishem Junior ahead 105 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: of Trevor, which is something that I respect fully disagree with. 106 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: I think Trevor is far and away the most impressive 107 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: rookie in baseball this year. Strikeout rate now at this 108 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: point deep into the thirty percents, and even with the 109 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: home run allowed last night, only three home runs allowed 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: in fifty one and two thirds NX pitched. That's something 111 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: that has come up on this podcast is just how 112 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: critical home runs are to win and losing games in 113 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: baseball now, and Trevor is so uncomfortable of an at 114 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: bat for opposing players, they are very rarely going to 115 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: barrel the ball against them, and even when they do, 116 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: there's rarely going to be anybody on base to score 117 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: when they do hit those home runs, as was the 118 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: case with Andrew McCutcheon on Wednesday night. So I think 119 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: any I can't really pump breaks anymore. People that are 120 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: excited about Trevor, they should be the One thing that 121 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: I will point out is that we should focus on 122 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. You should focus on All Star 123 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: because I think he's pretty damn close to locking up 124 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: an All Star selection, which on its own would be 125 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: an credible accomplishment for a rookie a national league Cy 126 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Young might be stretching it still, just understanding that this 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: is his first full full season as a professional, not 128 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: just as a major leaguer. As a professional. He came 129 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: close to a full year pitching in the miners in 130 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, but even that workload is not quite the 131 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: same as what he's on pace for right now, right 132 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: now in trending towards that one hundred and seventy five 133 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty innings total, and that's a lot 134 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: to ask for coming off this very unusual twenty twenty 135 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: shortened season, So we'll see if he gets there. So far, 136 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: so exceptional. I think any expectations that you had, he 137 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: has blown past them. And it's such a great development 138 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: for this team that we're going to bring up Trevor 139 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: later when talking about the players in this organization that 140 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: have the most trade value right now, because he has 141 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: very quickly ascended up that list, and the second guy 142 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: who's not quite in the majors yet, but I think 143 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: he's come up probably more than anybody else. In reading 144 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: the comment on fishtripes dot com and reading our replies 145 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: on Twitter, people are pounding the table for Haesu Sanchez. 146 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: The Jacksonville outfielder same age as Trevor, basically twenty three 147 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: years old, and Trevor's recent point where he's kind of 148 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: here to stay in the majors, and once Sanchez gets 149 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: up here, the hope is that he's the same way 150 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: that he'll be here to stay. The numbers that he 151 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: is putting up in Jacksonville are mind blowing to this 152 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: point where he is the best hitter in Minor League 153 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: baseball through two and a half weeks of the season. 154 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: And this comes even despite the fact that he missed 155 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: a few days precautionary reasons that weren't specified, held out 156 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: a few days last week, and he picked up exactly 157 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: where he left off. As we're recording this, he's coming 158 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: off a four hit game, another four hit game he's 159 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: had at least one of those already. He had a 160 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: five hit game earlier in the year. That this is 161 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: nothing new. This is just a casual day for Hayesu 162 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: Sanchez a five to ten batting average this year, a 163 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: slugging percentage nearly one thousand, one thousand, and it needs 164 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: to be pointed out in context that playing for Jacksonville, 165 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: playing in these ballparks on the East Coast, that these 166 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: are not especially hit or friendly conditions. That that was 167 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: a big point of emphasis that we needed to bring 168 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: up when analyzing Marlins Triple A players in the past, 169 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: they were playing in the Pacific Coast League where the 170 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: atmospheres thin, there's so much humidity. The ball flies in 171 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: those ballparks, and it doesn't necessarily translate to the major 172 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: league level when you're playing in the Triple A and 173 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: what they're now calling the Triple A East League, that 174 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: those conditions are more comparable to what you see in 175 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: the majors now. The quality of pitching is not comparable, 176 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: and I'd say the most important disclaimer is that the 177 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: quality of defense is not the same. Just from watching 178 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: Haitius Sanchez, I'm not sure if you guys have gotten 179 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: the chance to on MILBTV, but he has benefited from 180 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: some questionable outfield route running and decision making, turning doubles 181 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: into inside the park home turning flyouts into triples. That 182 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: that alone, you bring him up to the majors with 183 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: superior talents in that regard that it's safe to say 184 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: he's not a five to ten hitter at the major 185 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: league level. That it'll come back down to earth a 186 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: little bit. That being said, when you perform at this 187 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: level for any sort of sustained period of time, historically, 188 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: these are the type of players that force themselves up. 189 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: That's what people want to know is when is Hasius 190 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: Sanchez going to force himself up? What I want to 191 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: know is exactly how he fits with the roster if 192 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: he does come up. So we're recording this on May twenty. 193 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say that his call up 194 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: is not imminent. That you will not see him for 195 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: this serious analoe against the Phillies. You will not see 196 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: him in Lone Depot Park for that series against the Mets. 197 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Once you get beyond that, if he finishes out this 198 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: week strong, then it's serious call up watch for Hayesiu Sanchez. 199 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: As encouraging as the season has been for the Marlins, 200 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: the depth of their lineup is still a concern. It's 201 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: one of the biggest weaknesses on this team. And as 202 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: we'll get to later, one of the things you can't 203 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: change is it's not a whole lot of options you 204 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: can do about the catcher position that the team did 205 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: not address durning the offseason. Then they lost Jorge Alfaro 206 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: Dude injury, and Alfaro is the one who actually should 207 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: be back relatively soon. So just a tangent on Alfaro 208 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: is that he's really the next position player reinforcement that's 209 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: on the pipeline. Now that he has resumed his rehab 210 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: assignment in Jacksonville, he could be up as soon as 211 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: the end of this weekend, so he could be up 212 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday. It only needs a couple games to catch 213 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville to show that he's healthy, and then he'll 214 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: probably come up in place of Chad Wallack and we'll 215 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: see what Alfaro does because he's been a frustrating player 216 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: in the past but also very tantalizing because of the 217 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: tools that he has, and still I guess conventionally you 218 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: think about him in the prime of his career. So 219 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: let's see what happens with Alfaro. But then the following 220 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: week is when I think, potentially you could see, hey, 221 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Sue Sanchez and where would that playing time come. It 222 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: would have to come, I suppose for him somewhere in 223 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: right field, where currently their primary right fielder this year 224 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: more than anybody else, has been Adam Duvall, but with 225 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: Starling Marte still out, for the near future. Duval has 226 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: been playing a lot of center field as recently as 227 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: Wednesday night, and he's proven to be perfectly fine in 228 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: center field defensively and a true star defensively in right field. 229 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: That's been one of the pleasant surprises is how much 230 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: value he has added to the game with his arm 231 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: out there, with his route running and instincts out there. 232 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: That he's been exceptional in that regard, and you still 233 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: want him to be there for as exciting as Sanchez's 234 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: bat is and some of the highlight places he does 235 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: make in the outfield, I think consistently he would not 236 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: be as valuable defensively in right field as Duval. But 237 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: the date to circle to me is this later road 238 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: trip after this one ends. Following the stands, they go 239 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: back out to a couple American League parks. They go 240 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: to Fenway Park from May twenty eighth to May thirtieth. 241 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: After an off day, they go up to Buffalo to 242 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: play the Blue Jays for a two game set June 243 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: first and June second. And as things are trending right now, 244 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: I would be surprised if we get to June seconds 245 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: and Haysius Sanchez is not in the major leagues. Will 246 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: he stick around in the major leagues as soon as 247 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: he gets called up. It's hard to say, just because 248 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: of the awkward fit that he has on this roster. 249 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: We want to vall in center fields. You really can't play. 250 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: You can't totally bench Corey Dickerson. He's been underwhelming overall 251 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: compared to the contract that he signed, but he's getting 252 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: on base more than thirty five percent of the time. 253 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: He's not really the biggest issue with his offense though. 254 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: The one like scapegoat that I've pointed to before in 255 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: a recent article is Garrett Cooper, who can't play. He 256 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: has the versatility to play first base and the corner 257 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: outfield spots, but we're in a year where Hayshu's aguilar 258 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: has taken such up to arguably the best performance of 259 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: his career to essentially lock down first base on a 260 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: regular basis. And the reason why Cooper I don't think 261 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: you want to panic and send him down, look to 262 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: trade him quite yet, is that, of course Cooper was 263 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: excellent as recently as last year, and also because you 264 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: need some sort of backup first baseman on the roster, 265 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: and that's what Cooper is. He is really the only 266 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: guy in an emergency. You could play Miguel Rojas there, 267 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: and you can play John Birdie there, But an emergency, 268 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean those guys, I think, overall, as much as 269 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: you value the defensive instincts that they have and the 270 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: versatility that they don't, overall offer the same type of 271 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: reliability at the position that Garrett Cooper does. So I 272 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: think Cooper is going to stick on this roster for 273 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: the foreseable future. The one potential point where you insert 274 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Hayesiu Sanchez in place of would have to be is 275 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: San Diez, where he had those nice flashes as soon 276 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,119 Speaker 1: as he got called up in place of Jazz. Overall, 277 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: he is he's just not performing. We knew this coming 278 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: into the year that the Marlins may be ready to 279 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,479 Speaker 1: kind of close the book on him and just understands 280 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have any expectations moving forward, that the 281 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: bat does not play at the major league level of 282 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: the way they hoped when they acquired him, and that 283 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: the other tools are not nearly enough to compensate for that. 284 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: So Isan hitting one thirty six, he has a couple 285 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: home runs, very memorable home runs, one off Scherzer, then 286 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: the Grand Slam as well, and that's not enough. So 287 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: he's the obvious guy to send down, especially with Miggy 288 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Rowe and Jazz kind of locking down the middle infield, 289 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: that that's a move that I could see happening as 290 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: soon as next week once they head to Boston, and 291 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: I think at the very latest that following series against 292 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays that if hay Sue Sanchez is hitting 293 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: at this level, even if there's not that everyday roll 294 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: from him, he had the mix and match with him 295 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: in right field. And potentially the reason that we're targeting 296 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: those series from the call up is because they'll be 297 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: a designated hitter to use to get Haitiu's Aguilar a 298 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: rest day at one point, to get Cooper rest day, 299 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: to get duval a rest day. That for that very 300 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: brief stretch against Boston and the Blue Jays, that Haitiu 301 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: Sanchez can play almost every day during that week, we'll 302 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: and we'll see what he does, and they kind of 303 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: go day fight day from there, maybe they have to 304 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: send him down if it doesn't immediately click, or maybe 305 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: there's one of those injuries to one of those veteran 306 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: bats that does open up a semi regular spot for Sanchez. 307 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: I think either way that we're gonna be on call 308 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: up watch for him very soon. 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How much would the Marlins be willing 336 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: to invest in upgrading at catcher, in finding a successor 337 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: potentially to Brian Anderson if they don't extend in finding 338 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: a lockdown reliever. These are all these questions that will 339 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: certainly be bouncing around, especially over these next two months 340 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: once we build up very gradually to that mid season 341 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: trade deadline. I'm choosing now to update just where these 342 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: individual player values are, and with a big tip of 343 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: the cap to Baseball Trade Values that website, Baseballtrade values 344 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: dot com. It's been a go to for me well 345 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: over a year now, probably closer to two years that 346 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: I check it a lot to see exactly how Marlins 347 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 1: players stand relative to the rest of the league, and 348 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: of course using their trade simulator, where you pick out 349 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: a couple teams or more than two teams, three teams, 350 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: four teams side by side, and you play around with 351 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: trade scenarios, you post them to their site, and you 352 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: get feedback on those potential proposals. With the Marlins. Of 353 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: this is going through descending Baseball Trade value. I could 354 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: abbreviate it as BTV, the surplus value that these players 355 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: have relative to their contracts and when taking into account 356 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: the projected level of performance that they'll have during the 357 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: remaining years of team control, and the number one guy. 358 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: When you sort all Marlins players in the organization by 359 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: trade value major leaguers and minor leaguers, you might be 360 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: a surprise at the moment that Pabla Lopez is number 361 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: one on that list at sixty six point eight million 362 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: dollars of surplus value. He's just a tad ahead of 363 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: six to Do Sanchez at sixty three point six, and 364 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: then there's a pretty big drop off to everybody else, 365 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: Sandy al Contra at forty seven million, even jj a 366 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: day thirty five point seven, Trevor Rodgers essentially tied with 367 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: Bludet at thirty four point eight and Justism Junior at 368 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: thirty three point nine. So that's the very top of 369 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: the list, and they've made some updates since the start 370 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: of the season. I'd say in most of these cases, 371 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: as we go through this, these guys are relatively similar 372 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: value as to what they were entering opening day. Pablo 373 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: is a guy that feels a little bit high to me, 374 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: and I'm someone that projected he might get some cy 375 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Young votes this season, and I think that's still a possibility, 376 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: but not the thing the most likely possibility for him, 377 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: and we know he's had during his career, he's had 378 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: some durability concerns. It's no sure thing that he'll make 379 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: thirty two to thirty three starts during this season. We'll 380 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: still have to wait and see exactly about that. I 381 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,719 Speaker 1: feel like six to zero is about right. One thing 382 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: to take into consideration with him is that right before 383 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: his injury, the Marlins optioned him to the Miners, which 384 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: means during this period he's not actually accruing a major 385 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: league service time. And this is a conversation to another day, 386 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: but I do wonder the longer this goes on with 387 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: him not actually pitching off a mound, not actually building 388 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: up for starting duty despite what was I think a 389 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: lot of people considered a minor injury. I think you 390 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: have to start at least suspecting the Marlins might be 391 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: toying around with his service time intentionally a little bit 392 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: and eyeing this as an opportunity to get an extra 393 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: year of control, even beyond what they already had. So 394 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: that's something to revisit another day. And Sandy feels low 395 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: to me, even though as a recording is coming off 396 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: his worst start of his career, and the peripheral numbers 397 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: will never quite match up to his performance. So that's 398 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: something just from watching him every single time out. And 399 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: I think you would agree that the intangibles that he 400 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: brings as a pitcher, that he has these ingredients that 401 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: will allow him to kind of overachieve what the standard 402 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: projection systems his stat cast data will suggest. I think 403 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: he's just special in that regard and should be right 404 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: up there, very similar to six zero and Papolo when 405 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: taking all these ingredients into account. Going a little further 406 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: down the list, right below Jazz at thirty three point 407 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: nine million, there's Max Meyer at twenty nine point three. 408 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: Brian Anderson is one of the players I think pretty 409 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: clearly that has suffered the most in his BTV score 410 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: so far this season, where as recently spring trending he 411 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: was well north of thirty million dollars in surplus value 412 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: and now all the way down to nineteen point eight. 413 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: Happy recent birthday to Brian Anderson and I of course, 414 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: if you've been watching him very recently, he has finally 415 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: clicked with the bat. He is using the opposite field. 416 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: He is faring better against a wider variety of pitches 417 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: that I think real. I think you will see this 418 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: value tick back up a little bit as he is 419 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: showing again all the ingredients that he has of being 420 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: at the very least an average major league hitter, if 421 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: not a little bit more than that, because of his 422 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: ability potentially to get extra bases to all fields and 423 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: just filling out some other guys that are at least 424 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: significantly above zero in this system Edward Cabrera at sixteen million, 425 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: eliez Or Hernandez at fifteen point four, John Birdie at 426 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: nine point nine and will revisit him in a second, 427 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: Miguel Rojas at eight point one, Joses Devers at eight 428 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: point zero, piden verdict and HEYESU Sanchez both at seven 429 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: point six. Again, this site does not update every single 430 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: day or even every single week. This early in the 431 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: year they get more reliable, and at that as we 432 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: approach the trade deadline, I think it's safe to say 433 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: that Hayesius Sanchez is too low. As recently as last year, 434 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: before his call up, he was in the mid teens 435 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: in terms of trade value and they docked him, of 436 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: course based on that really terrible but very brief Major 437 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: League debut, and since then his performance kind of everything 438 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: he is showing as a hitter kind of reinvigorates your 439 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: feelings about him moving forward. So he's too low. John 440 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: Birti is too high. I've been a big stan of 441 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: John Birdie almost ever since his call up, and I 442 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: think you just need to acknowledge that he's played almost 443 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: as much this year in twenty twenty one as he 444 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: did in twenty twenty and yet he is still opsing 445 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: under six hundred. That the walks are there, the versatility 446 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: is there, the top end speed is there, but the 447 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: overall contributions simply are not there. He's not hitting as 448 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: well as you'd like him to. And despite the key 449 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: moments that he sometimes has as a base runner, the 450 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: fact that he's already been caught stealing a couple times, 451 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: that alone raises concerns about exactly how much his speed 452 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: is aging, as he's now thirty one years old. That 453 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: despite being a really affordable guy with four plus years 454 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: I think actually five years of club control remaining, that 455 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: I mean, the upside just is not particularly high compared 456 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: to some of these other guys. I mean, on the 457 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: other side of the equation that with most of these 458 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: guys we just ran through, you probably don't want to 459 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: trade any of them. I mean, there's some momentum in 460 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: the past for Eliez or Hernandez. I have not agreed 461 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: with that, but even here in Fish Stripes, Ethan Bodowski 462 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: among others have said that, you know, he's someone that 463 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: has a pretty limited ceiling just because he doesn't work 464 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: deep into games and he doesn't have a third reliable 465 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: pitch behind his fastball and a slider. So I understand 466 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 1: that sentiment a little bit, but it's fairly obvious now 467 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: that the Marlins desperately need him in the rotation if 468 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: they're going to do anything interesting this year. Someone to 469 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: revisit of course as we get later in the year 470 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: and more likely in the offseason, once you get these 471 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: next wave of pitchers ready for the big leagues. What 472 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: other guy did I want to touch on? I guess 473 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: with Miguel Rojas that feels about right, but it's not 474 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: really relevant. I mean, he's someone that you just can't 475 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: imagine trading under any circumstances because of what he means 476 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: to this team, in this community, and the fact that 477 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: he just despite all track record of guy reaching a 478 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: certain point in their aging curve and dropping off, that 479 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: we have not seen that drop off for him at 480 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: all to this point. So he's great. But with the Marlins, 481 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: when you're talking about potential shakeups to this roster, you're 482 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: generally talking about moving the older players to clear room 483 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: for this next wave of talent. So I mentioned, of 484 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: course about Hatius Sanchez and trying to find a role 485 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: for him on the major league roster that, barring an injury, 486 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: the only way that he's going to truly play every 487 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: day is if you clear out one of these older 488 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: corner bats, and those being Garrett Cooper, Hasius Aguilar, Corey Dickerson, 489 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: and Adam Duval, where Dickerson is on an expiring contract. 490 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: Adam Duval has a mutual option in his contract for 491 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: next year that as things are going that might be 492 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: something that teams would be interested in actually picking up 493 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: along with Duval himself, but I guess generally speaking, you 494 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: would put him in that same bucket as an expiring deal. 495 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: Hatius Aguilar performing at such an exceptional level that he 496 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: might be someone that that is tendered to contract in 497 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: arbitration next year despite a big raise incoming. Also the 498 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: potential though for him to be a nontener candidate if 499 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: he does regress a little in the power department as 500 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: this season goes on. And of all these players, Garrett 501 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: Cooper is the only one that has somewhat significant surplus value. 502 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: According to Baseball Trade Rumors they have him Baseball Trade Values, 503 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: they have him at three point three million as of 504 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: this recording. Got off to an awful start, but has 505 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: been ticking up recently, similarly to Brian Anderson. Not showing 506 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: power though, and that's a big red flag. That he's 507 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: getting on base a lot more consistently, and that's something 508 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: you kind of expected eventually, but the fact that he 509 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: still isn't barreling the ball at all is a red 510 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: flag for someone that is a liability defensively in right 511 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: field for sure, and a liability as a base runner 512 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: as well. So with him, his value is down a 513 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: little bit since the start of the year. I think 514 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: during the offseason he was in the six million dollar range. 515 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: It's tough to be entirely sure with this site, but 516 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,239 Speaker 1: he's certainly down from the start of the year, and 517 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: understandably you're just not going to get a whole lot 518 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: back in return for that type of player, but you'll 519 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: get something at three at three million dollars of surplus value. 520 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that could be multiple prospects, if not a 521 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: top one hundred prospect, and maybe someone that scratches the 522 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: top thirty in your organization. That's so that's one thing 523 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: to keep in mind to put this in perspective, that 524 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: guys at the bottom end of like the Marlins top 525 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: thirty list for example, generally Baseball Trade Values has them 526 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: at one million, two million, three million dollars something like that. 527 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: That once you get that deep in these guys that 528 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: you can't reliably project as regular players at the next 529 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: level that have that upside, but there like median outcome 530 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: is a reserve player or a guy that goes up 531 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: and down. That those are the type of players potentially 532 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: more than one that you could get in return for Cooper. 533 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: Despite his struggles to this point in the season, the 534 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: fact that he can play multiple positions and with half 535 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: the league having that flexibility of a designated hitter, that 536 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: he still brings something to the table on the market. 537 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: On the other side of the equation, I mean we'll 538 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: finish off with this, is that the gaping hole with 539 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: the Marlins team right now is at the catcher position, 540 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: both in the near term and for the foreseeable future. 541 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: With Jorgel Farrow. He's coming back from his injury and 542 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens, but we're going to have at 543 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: least close to two full months to evaluate what Alfaro 544 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: looks like back in his role as a primary catcher. 545 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: If it looks like what it did last year and 546 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: what it did at the early portion of this year, 547 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: where he's simply a bad offensive player and I guess 548 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: charitably a slightly above average defensive player. That I mean, 549 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: that's a guy that you wonder if he has any 550 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: future with the organization. Are they going to be again 551 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: tendering him a contraction arbitration somewhere north of two million dollars. 552 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: Is he worth it if he's now how several years 553 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: removed from being an impact hitter, that there's going to 554 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: be some urgency, especially if this team sees itself as 555 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: a contender down the stretch of this year and especially 556 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, that you need to upgrade. You 557 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: need to add somebody that, even if you're not ready 558 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: to ditch ol Farrow entirely, maybe shift him into the 559 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: backup role or as a part time DH in the 560 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: anticipation of the universal DH. Though, the name that's been 561 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: on everybody's mind dating back to the early offseason was 562 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: the Cubs Wilson Contreras, who is currently at twenty one 563 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: point one Baseball trade values. So again I gave you 564 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: all those Marlins names. That's pretty similar to Brian Anderson. 565 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: For example, Contreras's is one year closer to free agency. 566 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: He's more expensive, but he plays a more premium position, 567 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: and he has been a little bit more consistent offensively 568 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: than Anderson has right about the same age. Those two 569 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: guys are so the big key when we've been talking 570 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: about Contrarass is whether or not the Marlins would be 571 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: willing to will be prepared immediately to offer him some 572 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 1: sort of contract extension to keep him through his prime, 573 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: And so that's still a very big question as we're 574 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: recording this. The Cubs are basically in the same boat 575 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: as the Marlins. This season. They've been hovering slightly below 576 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: five hundred. They have some key star players that you love, 577 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: but they also have some obvious holes, and they are 578 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: a few games off the pace in their division. So 579 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: it is certainly a possibility that by the time we 580 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: get to July that they are in cell mode and 581 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: you could see some interesting deal happening there. But if 582 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: you have Contraras priced at twenty one million dollars, how 583 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: do you build a trade package to get him for 584 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: a team that in the Cubs, that are again potentially 585 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: staring into the beginning of a long rebuild. They're not 586 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: going to once these older players that the Marlins are 587 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: have their own selfish interest in switching out and clearing 588 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: room for a potential centerpiece in that trade if he's 589 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: healthy by then, and Edward Carberra going to be throwing 590 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: his first bullpen session in a while. This any day 591 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: now as he begins ramping up, he's someone that at 592 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: sixteen million in current trade value that he alone could 593 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,719 Speaker 1: be saying make a big impact in terms of like 594 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: making it a fair deal. It's almost a one for 595 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: one trade basically when you look at their current trade values. 596 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: It'd be a fascinating challenge trade because Cabrera's ceiling is 597 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: as high as almost any other pitcher in the Marlins organization. 598 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: That's saying something. But with his injury concerns and the 599 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: fact that he hasn't proven anything at the major leagues yet, 600 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: that's a candidate to be a centerpiece in a Wilson 601 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: Contrera's deal. But then there's a pretty big drop off, 602 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: as we mentioned, ntil he gets to the next prospect. 603 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: So by the time that we get to this trade scenario, 604 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm almost certain that hay Sus Sanchez will be in 605 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: the major leagues for all the reasons discussed earlier. That 606 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: and if he's doing, if he's having any sort of success, 607 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: then the Marlins won't want to trade him because they again, 608 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: they have those big looming holes in their outfields at 609 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: this stage of the year, and they don't know exactly 610 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: they're just already in that process of trying a clear 611 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: space for those young guys, not trying to trade the 612 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: young guys themselves. The one name that we didn't bring 613 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: up yet as a Marlins trade candidate would be Starling Marte. 614 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: He still seems to be multiple weeks away from getting Delts, 615 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: and he has the highest salary of all these players involved. 616 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: That is such a big ingredient in approximating trade value. 617 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he comes back and he's immediately tearing up the 618 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: ball the way he was earlier this year. Otherwise, he 619 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: just doesn't have much more trade value than Cooper does, 620 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: than Aguilar does, just because he is a pending free agent, 621 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: and we've seen there's been a shift in Major League 622 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: Baseball in terms of how to properly value those guys 623 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: that are coming up on free agency. In all likelihood, 624 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: he would not bring back a huge return all on 625 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: his own, unless the Marlins find themselves eating most or 626 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: all of that remaining contract. And so that's conversation for 627 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: another day about Marte and him as a potential extension 628 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: candidate in Miami and sticking around for the long term, 629 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: shifting eventually into a corner spot and all that. In 630 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: terms of other catchers that are out there. One who's 631 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: been really underrated is Jacob Stallings of the Pirates. Currently 632 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: on Baseball Trade values at five million dollars in surplus, 633 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: so that's really attainable. I mean, we were reading up 634 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: the most valuable players in the Marlins organization and we 635 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: kind of cut it off at seven point six. So 636 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: you go really far down the pipeline to get proper 637 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: value for a catcher at six million dollars, I mean, 638 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: at five million dollars. Gryffin Conine is currently at four 639 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: point five, so one for one to get Stallings, who 640 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: is older than Controrosts, but more controllable and a lot 641 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: more inexpensive. I mean, he still has three more years 642 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: of control beyond this season. He is now building quietly 643 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: a good track record of getting on base, which is 644 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: what the Marlins if nothing else, that's what they want 645 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: offensively from their catcher, somebody that lengthens the lineup to 646 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: some degree and gives you a shot at generating more runs. 647 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 1: And that's what they've been missing really for the last 648 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: couple of years at the position. So maybe as this 649 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: year goes on Stallings, we get closer to the deadline 650 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: that his value is more properly adjusted in BTV, and 651 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: you end up in a situation where Marlins might have 652 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: to be making it more difficult call in terms of 653 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: what prospect it would cost to get him. Being on 654 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: the Pirates, he's someone that you know almost certainly will 655 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: be available for the right price, a really bold deal 656 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: that they could consider something around Kbert Ruiz on the Dodgers. 657 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: His name was connected to the Marlins and JT. Real 658 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: Muto trade talks as a potential centerpiece. Since then, he's 659 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: gotten a couple cups of coffee in the major leagues 660 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 1: at the catcher position, But unfortunately for him, the Dodgers 661 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 1: have Will Smith embedded as that primary guy for the 662 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: long haul, and Will Smith's he's obviously untouchable considering that 663 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: the Dodgers are right in the middle of their World 664 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: Series contention window and Ruiz is somewhat of a surplus 665 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: player for them, but currently in Baseball Trade values at 666 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,439 Speaker 1: twenty five million in surplus value, So that's that's a lot. 667 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, as we mentioned, only a handful of players 668 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: in the Marlins organization right now that would really match 669 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: up with that, unless you're willing to part with a 670 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: handful of players at one time and make it a 671 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: really big package in order to get Ruiz And with 672 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: the Dodgers, even though they obviously have a good understanding 673 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: of why it's important to have organizational depth, they'd also 674 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: want little bit pieces to plug in at the major 675 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: league level to make sure that they reach their October aspirations. 676 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: So all these particulars are things to be revisited later 677 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: in the year, because, first of all, the Marlins will 678 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: need to choose a direction that they want once we 679 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 1: get to the trade deadline. It's still early enough. There's 680 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: been enough encouraging signs and enough red flags that you 681 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: could see this going in either direction. I'd finish off though, 682 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I've like on this several times that the 683 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: Marlins this year, I feel they miss an opportunity to 684 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: build their strongest team possible just by not spending money 685 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: that they entered this year approximate opening day payroll around 686 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 1: sixty million dollars, and since then they've gotten an influx 687 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: of cash from Badly Sports Florida and from Loan Depot, 688 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: from those television deals and that naming rights sponsorship that 689 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: once we get to the deadline, they should be a 690 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: team more than anybody else that is willing to if 691 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: they're trading veterans to eat some or all of the 692 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: money remaining on those contracts, and if they're going to 693 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: be acquiring players to help them contend right now, that 694 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: they should not, in any circumstance be scared away by 695 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: players that have a lot of money still owed to 696 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: them from their other teams. That they should be willing 697 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 1: to take on that money if it means preserving some 698 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: of their farm system depth, and if it means plugging 699 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: any apparent holes with the team that they have down 700 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: the stretch this year or in twenty twenty two and beyond, 701 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities out there to It's gonna be 702 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: a fun summer. I think that's the word I keep 703 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,280 Speaker 1: coming back to. Recently, I was on a Mets podcast 704 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: moving into this upcoming series to preview that, and the 705 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: first word out of my mouth is that this has 706 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: been fun to follow the Marlins this year because the 707 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: wider range of possibilities, because of the stardom at the 708 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: top of the roster and the potential stars that are 709 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: about to break through for the first time or to 710 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,479 Speaker 1: really solidify themselves. 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