Speaker 1: The Boys YO with your boy Calm Nasty, got my
Speaker 1: co host, your dad, Nashville's Dad Taylor luwan uh just
Speaker 1: number one friendly reminder episodes you're about to hear record
Speaker 1: in the past. The Boys no episodes. This is not
Speaker 1: a current this is not an up to date deal.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's for people thinking Taylor's potting while suspended.
Speaker 2: That's not true.
Speaker 1: That's thinking I'm potting while playing football, not even playing football.
Speaker 2: Had no idea. Why even said that.
Speaker 1: The Boys on the Saints for a short period of time,
Speaker 1: the boy ball, it was all good. Injured the old
Speaker 1: ankle a little bit. I'll be straight here soon, healthy,
Speaker 1: very very soon. It's been great though. A lot of
Speaker 1: teams calling Pee wee League team down the road. They
Speaker 1: need some help coaching this weekend. A lot of traffic,
Speaker 1: a lot of traffic with the US teams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a stupid joke.
Speaker 1: Big announcement. We have a tailgate this weekend. It's the
Speaker 1: Tits versus Colts game on Sunday. It'll start at eight
Speaker 1: twenty seven am. The reason for eight twenty seven to
Speaker 1: seven Eddie George. It'll last to eleven oh nine am.
Speaker 1: The nine Steve McNair. This will be on Sunday, September
Speaker 1: fifteenth at three zero one Woodland Street. Guys, were we
Speaker 1: are fucking psyched to uh be throwing a tailgate for
Speaker 1: you guys. The boys will not be there, you know,
Speaker 1: not smart on our part, so we will not be there.
Speaker 1: Busting with the Boys will have a tent. Merchandise will
Speaker 1: be slinging teas everywhere. You want to get your vaybel
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Speaker 1: So that's on Sunday. We will have There'll be a
Speaker 1: DJ there, DJ Fast Nasty. There'll be some giveaways. There'll
Speaker 1: be uh barbecue. We're getting barbecue, crick catered in. Some
Speaker 1: free drinks. We got some drinks happening. New merch to
Speaker 1: buy tailgate games. You know you got your corn hole,
Speaker 1: you got uh you got all your fun games to
Speaker 1: socialize and have a good time. We'll be We'll be
Speaker 1: providing food and drink. I know our RSVP count. We
Speaker 1: wanted to cap it at at you know, a reasonable
Speaker 1: amount like four hundred people, and we hit that like overnight.
Speaker 1: So if you're coming or so, you know, everybody will
Speaker 1: be sacked to see the boys, will be the boys
Speaker 1: who will be there will be psycked to see you.
Speaker 1: It'll be a fun time, man, It'll be a real
Speaker 1: fun time. We're hoping to turn this into a.
Speaker 2: Home game, so all eight home games.
Speaker 1: We're hoping to get this thing roll and have a
Speaker 1: great turnout, start creating something special for you know, everybody
Speaker 1: in Nashville, whoever visits, everybody's welcome. If they're wearing a
Speaker 1: different jersey, who gives a shit, they're supporting a different team,
Speaker 1: who gives a shit.
Speaker 2: The main thing is.
Speaker 1: If you support the boys and you support busting with
Speaker 1: the Boys, everybody is welcome. It doesn't matter what colors
Speaker 1: you're wearing. We will be there having a great time.
Speaker 1: I would actually love to see videos and support of
Speaker 1: you know, Colts and Titans fans together talking about the boys.
Speaker 2: So you know, everybody's welcome. Everybody just have.
Speaker 1: A great time, have fun, be responsible and all this
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Speaker 1: does our merchandise. You can go see all their merch
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Speaker 1: they're sponsoring all of it. They're putting a lot of
Speaker 1: it together. Hunter Briley at Regal and Ryan at hang ten.
Speaker 1: They've kind of made this whole thing working happen with
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Speaker 1: Realty Group. There are one and only our number one
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Speaker 1: you're thinking, like, Yeah, you guys keep doing this every
Speaker 1: you guys mention him, shout him out every week. I
Speaker 1: wonder if that guy Hunter gets any traction. Dude, Hunter
Speaker 1: hits it, hits me up at least once a week
Speaker 1: talking about he gets a phone call. He's got a
Speaker 1: guy uh flying in from Vegas. We got a we
Speaker 1: got one of the boys who supports the boys. We
Speaker 1: got a wolf out in Vegas coming in this weekend
Speaker 1: or next weekend or something like that. And somebody, somebody
Speaker 1: from Vegas. He hit him up saying, hey, com nasty
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Speaker 2: Okay, So onto our episode.
Speaker 1: Derek Morgan, guys, Dan Morgan is He was a phenomenal interview.
Speaker 1: He was a first round pick to the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: that played his whole career with the Tennessee Titans, played
Speaker 1: at a really high level for many years. Derek was
Speaker 1: somebody who I took a huge liking to with my
Speaker 1: one year on the Titans. He was somebody I always
Speaker 1: leaned on for advice, recovery, working out. The guy is
Speaker 1: was a true pro the entire year I was on
Speaker 1: the Titans. And you know, he was one of the
Speaker 1: leaders of the locker room. And the dude is a
Speaker 1: baller man. He's a baller on the field and also
Speaker 1: off the field and his entrepreneur life, in his charity life.
Speaker 1: I know he's got a lot of things going on,
Speaker 1: you know, helping the world out, making the city a
Speaker 1: better place, helping out communities. The dude is a very
Speaker 1: well respected and everything he's had, everything he's gotten is
Speaker 1: well deserved. And I'm truly am I'm happy to call
Speaker 1: him a friend. I'm always happy to share lockers with
Speaker 1: him or share a locker close by him. But he
Speaker 1: was awesome man. Me him and Taylor, we have a
Speaker 1: great time on the podcast. We talk about his time
Speaker 1: in the league, his retirement, how much he's enjoying retiring,
Speaker 1: how much is he is enjoying his retired life when
Speaker 1: he started thinking about retirement, Because there's a whole conversation
Speaker 1: about that, what he's into off the field, how his
Speaker 1: transition has been going, what he's been diving into.
Speaker 2: The dude is very active. He's a he's he's.
Speaker 1: Represented by Vayner Media, Vayner Sports. So if you've seen
Speaker 1: or heard Gary vaynerchuck stuff out there, Gary Vee on
Speaker 1: social media, that is who represents Derreck Morgan. So he's
Speaker 1: very active and a lot of stuff he does, and
Speaker 1: we pick his brain a lot, laugh a lot. It's
Speaker 1: a real good time. But uh, you know I won't.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ramble much longer. Man, This this d
Speaker 1: Morgan episode is a banger. You guys are gonna enjoy it. Hey,
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Speaker 1: boys are here to stay. We're gonna have a hell
Speaker 1: of a year in football season. We're gonna keep dropping
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Speaker 1: our library because they're not current. Some we might get
Speaker 1: around and do some current stuff, update you a little
Speaker 1: more without further ado. Guys, let's hear this Derrey Morgan
Speaker 1: episode Drop the fucking Hook.
Speaker 2: Camp is coming up. Huh yeah Wednesday, Yeah, Taylor, sorry, Thursday,
Speaker 2: next week the twenty fifth. Dude, don't pretend like you are.
Speaker 2: You were living that life. You were living that life,
Speaker 2: like right away, it was it's crazy, man, I feel good.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm in shape, but you know how
Speaker 2: it is this camp, so it's like there's nothing really
Speaker 2: to truly feel good about. Like when you just you're
Speaker 2: just living.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 2: Just to know you're going to break it down, break
Speaker 2: it down because you in July you always feel yourself
Speaker 2: and like, yo, I'm kind of the man right now
Speaker 2: I'm feeling myself. And then December you're looking at yourself
Speaker 2: like you're not even you are you You're not even
Speaker 2: a human being, like you're a you've you're body fats
Speaker 2: all the deal right right, your body for real. But
Speaker 2: you know, like October November, like you start sneaking that
Speaker 2: Chinese food. You can lead that on there if you want. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it makes your soul.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you you do as much conditioning as you want.
Speaker 1: And then after those few days in camp, you're just like,
Speaker 1: there's no training for like football conditioning. Dude, No, your
Speaker 1: feed them dogs are barking like you're you know, sitting
Speaker 1: in the locker room.
Speaker 2: Did you say something like, hey, boys, how are we
Speaker 2: going to get out of here? How are we gonna?
Speaker 2: Are we gonna make it out of here?
Speaker 3: Hey? Would you play three games back to back?
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, we asked the funniest questions. Crazy, Hey,
Speaker 2: we could just play three.
Speaker 1: Games right now, three days in a row, and it
Speaker 1: cuts out the last month of the season.
Speaker 2: Oh, I for sure would you do it? I for
Speaker 2: sure did that. Sometimes when you get to that point
Speaker 2: where you're like, you got three four games left, let's
Speaker 2: just do them. Let's just do them. We get him done?
Speaker 3: Yeah, triple header, triple header?
Speaker 2: It's your ship broken? Are we rolling you? Mine's like
Speaker 2: a little jack. Hey, you're on top of that ship, dude.
Speaker 2: You know, how's the retired life?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 2: That's them. Don't even blame you. Look at us, bro.
Speaker 3: It's a white way to spell Derek.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we and we're busting with the boys and.
Speaker 2: Been have you on because we had the landy on
Speaker 2: and it's like, hey, you had one black guy and
Speaker 2: now we got two black eyes on. We're divers as fuck. Now, dude,
Speaker 2: we need to get killing them.
Speaker 1: We need to get our first lady on it would
Speaker 1: your wife come on?
Speaker 2: Talk about you got to watch out for this bus,
Speaker 2: don't we look at the stickers. You see these purple
Speaker 2: spots right here, those are all Confederate flags and stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: When I said when I posted the picture and they
Speaker 1: said somebody when I was like, somebody said you need
Speaker 1: to cover up some stickers. Dave Morgan was the one
Speaker 1: who was like, hey, you might want to check a
Speaker 1: couple of them stickers.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, yeah, we need to get that.
Speaker 2: We literally been thinking to ourselves like yeah, we got
Speaker 2: to take this stuff down, like take it down. But
Speaker 2: they we get so, like we finished the podcast, We're like,
Speaker 2: let's get the hell out of here. Dude, where is this?
Speaker 3: Where did this bus come from?
Speaker 2: Uh? So the bus came from here. Due hasn't moved.
Speaker 2: The production company we worked with before, yeah, they brought
Speaker 2: up the idea of everything and so this was like
Speaker 2: this originally before we got to this spot, was that
Speaker 2: a like a vacant broken down, like what was that
Speaker 2: soda company? Do Son drop like in mississipp And the
Speaker 2: dude that owned this bus his name is Huan and
Speaker 2: yeah Huan. So Juan sent two white dudes down there
Speaker 2: because that's like we're like the KKK was out apparently
Speaker 2: his words not ours, but this isn't our doing, Like
Speaker 2: we saged weed. We've had an old priest and a
Speaker 2: young priest. We've done our due diligence like this, some
Speaker 2: dark ship's happened in this bus, but we're bringing it
Speaker 2: back to light.
Speaker 3: Dude, I kind of felt the vibe, but I walked
Speaker 3: on it was kind of uneasy, really.
Speaker 1: Coach Arthur Smith was like to He's like, I didn't
Speaker 1: know if I should really like step on here. I
Speaker 1: was a little sketched out, like walking up to the bus, like, hey,
Speaker 1: are they really inside of that thing?
Speaker 2: There was when we when we got this bus done
Speaker 2: and we did all this stuff in here, we kept
Speaker 2: this is the only thing original, but that the floors
Speaker 2: are done.
Speaker 3: We painted everything and then moved.
Speaker 2: Dude, has it doesn't work? Yeah, it doesn't work. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get a mobile eventually. I think we're just gonna
Speaker 2: start turning that negative into a positive in the dollar
Speaker 2: signed community of our pod cast. I feel, dude, how's
Speaker 2: the retired life? Man?
Speaker 4: I feel like I've been on the retired life for
Speaker 4: like six months. It's good, bro. I mean it's really
Speaker 4: it's stress free. It's stress free.
Speaker 2: It's stress free. Stress listen to he sounds so at peace,
Speaker 2: I am, man.
Speaker 4: I mean we, I mean, we talked throughout the whole year,
Speaker 4: but I think this was a decision that was coming
Speaker 4: for a long time.
Speaker 3: You know, we said I was going to play as
Speaker 3: long as it made sense.
Speaker 4: And nine years and you know, everybody's like, you gotta
Speaker 4: get to ten, you gotta get the ten.
Speaker 3: I'm like, why, Like, I'm straight, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 4: I've played out both my deals now, I've done good
Speaker 4: for myself and I don't have to play, never be
Speaker 4: in a position where I had to play.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I just feel like.
Speaker 4: The stuff off the field is becoming way more purposeful
Speaker 4: for me, and that's more stimulating to my mind.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So I think that it's been a decision longer than
Speaker 4: making and I'm definitely at peace with it.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking that's just our whole year together, like
Speaker 1: in the locker room and stuff like that, like you
Speaker 1: and Rack.
Speaker 2: I love Rack Man shut out Brian Rack. Every time
Speaker 2: I want to buy you guys, Yeah, fellas, every time
Speaker 2: I want to buy you guys. You guys are laughing
Speaker 2: or complaining about stuff. Yeah, I walked by that. I
Speaker 2: look at you guys. I can't even go over there.
Speaker 2: I'm not the mindset to even be over there. Sometimes
Speaker 2: we need to tell you that you got to go
Speaker 2: to young in this spot. Yeah, don't come over here.
Speaker 2: You don't want them.
Speaker 4: No, But right, we were each other's therapists throughout the
Speaker 4: last year. But it was it was good to have
Speaker 4: somebody like that, who was that you know, advanced in
Speaker 4: their career, understood it.
Speaker 3: So, I mean you helped me too, Bro. I appreciate you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate our conversations outside of football, real estate, all
Speaker 4: those things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like a real estate mongol. Now, dude, man,
Speaker 2: I have a mogle mongol. Whatever. Let's dude, it's sucking.
Speaker 2: It's my bus and do whatever I can say whatever
Speaker 2: I want. Bus. I bought the bus. If we get divorced,
Speaker 2: this bus is mine. Yeah, I got will car the
Speaker 2: other day and he turned his car on. And it's
Speaker 2: like a real estate podcast. Every time I talk to him,
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I got a phone call in fifteen
Speaker 2: minutes about this, that and the other bigger.
Speaker 1: Mike Will's you know, Will we have more money than
Speaker 1: all of us. Someone was a get Rich Education anything Real.
Speaker 1: What's his name, Keith, Keith Winehold, Keith Whitehole, something like that.
Speaker 1: He's tough to listen to because he's got kind of
Speaker 1: like a real cornish, cornish voice.
Speaker 2: If he ever listens to this, I apologize. So he's
Speaker 2: hard to listen to.
Speaker 1: But the dude is like he has so much knowledge
Speaker 1: and he has people and that kind of talks about
Speaker 1: all like you know, cash flow ratios, real estates, financially
Speaker 1: free versus debt free. It's that kind of mindset and
Speaker 1: it's a lot of like good stuff and they're quick,
Speaker 1: like thirty to forty forty five to fifty minute podcasts
Speaker 1: that I try to like tap into and just stay
Speaker 1: on top of you guys, because anytime i'll hear something,
Speaker 1: I'll try to Like I was telling the tailor's joking
Speaker 1: on me.
Speaker 2: I was like yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, if I find something, I hear something, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll just hit up my property managers.
Speaker 2: And it just makes youre like are we doing this?
Speaker 1: And was like and they're probably reading it thinking yes,
Speaker 1: because they're property managers.
Speaker 2: I've done that. That's that's literally that jobs. Like someone's like, hey,
Speaker 2: to I just want to make sure you're past setting, Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm going off. It's a tackle, dude, I gotta I
Speaker 2: gotta pass that every once in a while. Have you
Speaker 2: ever thought the step like this, Like, yeah, I have,
Speaker 2: I wanted.
Speaker 4: Those were the conversations that that Rabel used to have
Speaker 4: with you when I seen y'all going through one on ones.
Speaker 2: Really when I was like coming back, like if you
Speaker 2: had like a little nigger somewhere, yeah, make sure you
Speaker 2: sit inside out. It's like yeah, it's like, you know.
Speaker 3: I look over there, like this guy there's nothing that
Speaker 3: he can't do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: Like Rabel would be like he'd have that little pat
Speaker 2: on his chest and all right, I'm gonna set and
Speaker 2: you punch me. And he'd do it two, three times,
Speaker 2: and then he'd see somebody watching and I'd do the
Speaker 2: same thing on the third time or the fourth time,
Speaker 2: and he'd swim me and beat me and he like
Speaker 2: run pas. I said, man, still got it, still got it, Lawan.
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there like yeah, look yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 2: you got like Ashley and Titans Amy or Field and
Speaker 2: he like peaks it over. It's a lucky give me
Speaker 2: a little move and get out of there. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you know that just happened. And then it shows Rayble
Speaker 2: like on next, what was it? Igniting the fire? They do?
Speaker 2: I didn't be like I'm kind of exposed by my
Speaker 2: own coach right now.
Speaker 3: Dude, that's brutalized it.
Speaker 2: So you don't miss it or there ever are there
Speaker 2: are the days you wake up and you're like, dude,
Speaker 2: I could I could play another game?
Speaker 3: Bro? Do you want me to be honest with you? No?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a fool like do you
Speaker 2: do whatever you want?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 4: I don't miss it at all, Nothing like this right
Speaker 4: this like conversations.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean yeah, like that's the thing that
Speaker 3: you that you miss.
Speaker 4: But it hasn't really hit in because I've been so
Speaker 4: busy that I haven't really had time to sit down
Speaker 4: and process.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: I miss the guys, like you know, I miss having
Speaker 4: those laughs and stuff and just that that camaraderie. But
Speaker 4: waking up, you know, putting making sure like because you
Speaker 4: know how I was with my body, bro, like stop process.
Speaker 4: And so for me it was like, I wake up, Okay,
Speaker 4: I feel this little tweak at my knee. I gotta
Speaker 4: go do some correct exercise. Just gotta go get treatment
Speaker 4: after this acupuncture, massage, chiropractice. So to be able to
Speaker 4: kind of just wake up and get on the elliptical
Speaker 4: and play with my kids and you know, handle business
Speaker 4: and whatnot. No, I can't say I miss it, bro,
Speaker 4: I really don't. I having a chance to have, you know,
Speaker 4: and mind you, I've been coming to this decision for
Speaker 4: a long time.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean a long time, like a year. Okay.
Speaker 2: So if the last year around this time, you're like
Speaker 2: this is it started to pop back in your head
Speaker 2: like this kind It.
Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, this is my last year at my deal,
Speaker 4: and you know, if it makes sense, if the right
Speaker 4: opportunities on the table.
Speaker 3: I told my.
Speaker 4: Agent Aj Vanderchuck, I said, look, man, if it's not
Speaker 4: a good team, a good market, or a good role,
Speaker 4: don't even entertain it.
Speaker 3: And so you know we've had we had talks with teams.
Speaker 4: You know, over the off season, and it was like,
Speaker 4: you know, do I want to uproot my family for
Speaker 4: a one year deal and move across the country.
Speaker 3: Probably not, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So when you can tap into everything you're probably doing
Speaker 1: off the field.
Speaker 4: Exactly, I've been sprinkling a lot of seeds throughout my career,
Speaker 4: and so I think now it's kind of time to
Speaker 4: activate those seeds and really take advantage of it and leverage,
Speaker 4: leverage my network.
Speaker 2: Right, feel free to plug plug away. Many know, what are.
Speaker 1: Some of these seeds? You know, I'm always asking what
Speaker 1: the hell you're up to because I have fomo.
Speaker 2: I always have following guys. You're talking business? Hey, boys,
Speaker 2: are we doing this?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: What's the deal?
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 2: Send me the information? You see the boys fix your name?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 4: It's a white way that dere So yeah, we got
Speaker 4: a whole list here. I mean, we're trying to hit
Speaker 4: some of stuff.
Speaker 1: Then that's one of the stuff I know about start
Speaker 1: at I wanted to start at CBD and THC.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: That was that's like because because I texted you it
Speaker 1: was recently too. I was like, yo, if if if
Speaker 1: we take CBD or what did I say. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's CBD legal for us to take because there's all
Speaker 1: like this tipping point of like knowing CBD has a
Speaker 1: little bit of that whatever percentage in it to where
Speaker 1: if you test positive for THAC, it's you're clarified for
Speaker 1: at tree drug. And everybody kind of wanted wants to
Speaker 1: know if can we do CBD because everybody kind of
Speaker 1: knows now how beneficial it is for your body for
Speaker 1: like muscles, joints and everything like that, and you don't
Speaker 1: get the psychedelic effect that you do with THHC.
Speaker 2: So people are like, yo, are you doing t Are
Speaker 2: you doing.
Speaker 1: CBD now when you haven't been tested the one time
Speaker 1: of year yet, like have you taken CBD? And everybody's like,
Speaker 1: you don't really want to test or you don't want
Speaker 1: to push it. So I definitely, I know both of
Speaker 1: us would like to know about the CBDTC.
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't I wouldn't test it. You know, there's
Speaker 4: different forms of CBD. There's the full spectrum where you
Speaker 4: have a little bit of the THAC. So if you
Speaker 4: have less than point zero three percent of TAC, you
Speaker 4: know that's full spectrum.
Speaker 3: That's full spectrum CBD oil.
Speaker 4: Now what they have is there's a called a CBD extract,
Speaker 4: so they extract the THAC from it, and you're getting
Speaker 4: straight CBD. You could take that right before a drug
Speaker 4: test and be fine. Now, what I don't know is
Speaker 4: the full spectrum that has the THAC. I don't know
Speaker 4: if that's safe for a drug test. I always tell guys, hey, look,
Speaker 4: wait till you get your tests. Then you can start
Speaker 4: taking it, you know. And then there's also the ointments
Speaker 4: and stuff, and nobody's really done a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: research on it.
Speaker 2: It's not to.
Speaker 4: Say it's still vague in a sense, but I think
Speaker 4: that the NFL just needs to take it off the list.
Speaker 4: Like why are we still, you know, getting getting punished
Speaker 4: for taking, you know, cannabis or whatever using cannabis when
Speaker 4: we're like the only lead that gets punished for it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, it's backwards to me.
Speaker 2: I've talked to a bunch of people about that kind
Speaker 2: of situation, and it seems like the NFL made it
Speaker 2: banned right right away, and like the NBA didn't really
Speaker 2: do that. I don't think hockey does that or baseball
Speaker 2: does that either. So because they went and did it,
Speaker 2: now hard because it's federally illegal to go back and say, hey,
Speaker 2: just kidding, we won't we're not going to test for
Speaker 2: that because you know what an X Y and me
Speaker 2: when there's a YEP and there wouldn't be a Bust
Speaker 2: with the Boys podcast with a train going by. Just
Speaker 2: we just fight through adversity all the time. But I
Speaker 2: do think it's like like a liability issue for the NFL,
Speaker 2: fay or like took it off the banned substance list
Speaker 2: without it being federally legal, which I which I get you.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Like it's crazy that like vicing in
Speaker 2: and percocets and all these things are are so easily
Speaker 2: prescribed for you, Like, oh, you have an issue to
Speaker 2: take this, you know, take these pills, say these chemically
Speaker 2: made things when we're talking about a plant, like you
Speaker 2: can't take a plant.
Speaker 3: I think it's all about public opinion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the NFL will never be ahead of public opinion.
Speaker 4: They will not take any risks because it's all about
Speaker 4: the shield.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: So now that you see the public opinion towards cannabis
Speaker 4: shifting towards more being accepting of it. Yeah, in society,
Speaker 4: they're kind of like, ah, yeah, we could talk to
Speaker 4: the NFL PA.
Speaker 3: But this is the one thing you got to understand.
Speaker 4: The NFL is always positioning itself when you in terms
Speaker 4: of CB the CBA and labor talks because they want
Speaker 4: to make that an issue and a negotiating point for
Speaker 4: the next you know, lockout or c CBA.
Speaker 3: Coming up.
Speaker 4: And so they're going to be like, hey, look, play
Speaker 4: eighteen games and we'll let you you know, smoke cannabis,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's how they'll leverage it.
Speaker 4: We always exactly, we always look at it as there's
Speaker 4: economic and there's non economic issues when you talk about
Speaker 4: a CBA agreement, So you can't lump in you know,
Speaker 4: something like a medical benefit or cannabis in regards to
Speaker 4: playing eighteen games. They just, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: it doesn't equal out. So I think that they're kind
Speaker 4: of waiting on that to use that as a negotiate
Speaker 4: negotiation tactic, which is kind of crazy, but that's just
Speaker 4: what you're dealing with.
Speaker 2: This is business, right. It is kind of like try
Speaker 2: to get anything. If they can get eighteen games and
Speaker 2: then say hey, all right, we used some smoke weed
Speaker 2: or whatever, use cannabis, right, what a shitty deal for
Speaker 2: the players. It kind of is like I saw this
Speaker 2: said something that, like I saw jo of you guys. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna take that, right boys, Yeah, he relax. Now,
Speaker 2: it's crazy. It's just it's so wild. I saw something
Speaker 2: the other day like they're like saying, you do eight
Speaker 2: players play eighteen games, but you said them for two
Speaker 2: of them, so still players are only playing sixteen games.
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, then you're messing with people start records.
Speaker 2: You're messing with people snap records, which for offense Liane
Speaker 2: is kind of all you got. And then it's like
Speaker 2: why if you're going to play eighteen, play eighteen, then
Speaker 2: put two bi weeks in there. But like, don't dilute
Speaker 2: the products you have because you're because it goes up
Speaker 2: and down a little bit. Now, I don't know all
Speaker 2: the logistics and everything of how like the NFL and
Speaker 2: the views, but I do know that you know those
Speaker 2: rumblings when it came to the anthem and there's rumbling
Speaker 2: like this and this is all these demographics that are
Speaker 2: either happy or upset. But like you do eighteen games,
Speaker 2: things might get a little you know, real dice man,
Speaker 2: it might get it might get too dicey. And if
Speaker 2: you if your conversation for that is like, hey, we'll
Speaker 2: take two preseason games off, it's like, yeah, who gives
Speaker 2: a ship? Yeah, like it takes one off. Anyway, games
Speaker 2: you play at least more starter, you play three series
Speaker 2: at most sometimes right, and you're done and that's it.
Speaker 1: Take out a preseason game, keep it at sixteen games
Speaker 1: at a bye week.
Speaker 2: I don't know, But what do you think about? See?
Speaker 2: I'm almost like, when I get into a groove of
Speaker 2: the season, I'm like, yo, let's just do this when
Speaker 2: I can. Sometimes when I come back from a bye week,
Speaker 2: I'm a little more sore. My body is like a
Speaker 2: little more relaxed. Yeah, you know, and I feel like
Speaker 2: reamp myself. I have, but almost I don't. I am
Speaker 2: not standing on this. I'm being Devil's advocate, right. I
Speaker 2: don't want to feel like, Yo, no bye week, let's
Speaker 2: just rip at sixteen. Yeah you're twenty seven, Yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: it's younger. You turn twenty seven, I'm turning turning. I'm
Speaker 2: turning twenty turning twenty six right now, were you I
Speaker 2: think you No, no, no, I'm twenty seven.
Speaker 4: I'm turning twenty eight. My father turned twenty eight years six. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: so were you there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You were here where we had a bye week after
Speaker 4: Week three? Yes, and then we had thirteen Street.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was a tough That was a tough year.
Speaker 2: That was miserable.
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Like imagine playing three games going to
Speaker 4: a bye week.
Speaker 2: That's always the worst. Like this, late those late by
Speaker 2: weeks the best we had. I think the year after that,
Speaker 2: we had like a week ten by week or like
Speaker 2: the latest week you could have, and everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is love. Yeah, I've always been archy, dude.
Speaker 1: The Skins had Week four last year and I was
Speaker 1: all text boys like, hey man, that that beginning bye
Speaker 1: week or early in the year, that blows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tian's got a good one this year. It's like
Speaker 2: the it's in November, okay, so that's all that's I
Speaker 2: think the first week in November, it's like a week solid.
Speaker 2: How you feel about the season, bro, I feel good
Speaker 2: about it, man. I think the good thing about Arthur
Speaker 2: being the OC is it gives everybody a chance to
Speaker 2: be in the same offense. Two years in a row,
Speaker 2: which we never really got. Our defense is always like
Speaker 2: even since I've been here, even when we went two
Speaker 2: and fourteen and three and thirteen, Like, I just feel
Speaker 2: like y'all are always so consistent. Yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 2: just about the offense. The ebbs and flows of the
Speaker 2: offense got to be more consistent, and like the offensive line,
Speaker 2: we do a better job of protecting. Give Marcus more time.
Speaker 2: Receivers got to get open faster. Like it's all you know,
Speaker 2: it's the team sport. But I really think like of
Speaker 2: all the years, it seems like people are really starting
Speaker 2: to buy in quite a bit. Like when I first
Speaker 2: got there in Tilsy fourteen, it was a lot of
Speaker 2: old dudes like your tender, like Michael Ruse and Chris
Speaker 2: Spencer was in our room and it was kind of
Speaker 2: like just kind of did your thing, you know. It's
Speaker 2: like everyone was in and out. I didn't really understand
Speaker 2: like the NFL at all. Now I'm starting to get it.
Speaker 2: I feel like dudes are working hard, and we got
Speaker 2: talent too. We got some young guys with some talent.
Speaker 3: A lot of talent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it's all about culture, you know
Speaker 4: what It really is. It's like I seen guys I
Speaker 4: came in my first year at Jeff Fisher, so it
Speaker 4: was Vince Young, Chris Johnson, you know, like older like
Speaker 4: Chris Hope, Courtland Finn again, we had a really old team.
Speaker 3: That team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys just kind of did whatever they wanted whatever,
Speaker 4: playing in Miami, lose the game, stay in Miami, don't
Speaker 4: even get on the tough Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So like when I got out, I was like, man,
Speaker 3: what is going on? This is kind of loose to loose.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I wasn't used to that, and then you know,
Speaker 4: he was going Then Munchet came, and then Wizard Hunt.
Speaker 3: Who was next?
Speaker 2: Malarkey Malarkey?
Speaker 4: And then now it was like man, it's just I've
Speaker 4: seen so many different cultures try to be implemented, and
Speaker 4: I've been kind of studying that. It's like okay, what
Speaker 4: like I try to take notes on like each you know,
Speaker 4: leader or coach that came in. It's like, okay, run
Speaker 4: your own business. Yeah, like what can I take away
Speaker 4: from this? Like this works here just didn't really quite
Speaker 4: go over so well. Guys bought into this, but this
Speaker 4: didn't work, And so I tried to look at each
Speaker 4: coach and kind of learn and take something away from
Speaker 4: each coach that I could apply in, you know, in
Speaker 4: the business world, because I mean it's you're leading the organization,
Speaker 4: right men, how would you compare them all since you've
Speaker 4: been under way?
Speaker 2: It sounds like you read off five there, Yeah, makeays.
Speaker 4: So I think I think the common thread that I
Speaker 4: think worked the best, at least from.
Speaker 3: My perspective, was ownership.
Speaker 4: Having the team feel like there's a sense of ownership,
Speaker 4: that you have a say somewhat.
Speaker 3: In what's going on.
Speaker 4: As to say, hey, look, this is more of a
Speaker 4: collaborative approach, right, like understanding that there is a hierarchy,
Speaker 4: there is authority, understanding those things. But to me to say, hey, look,
Speaker 4: i'm the head coach, I'm going to ask your input.
Speaker 4: You're the one on the field sacrificing your body and
Speaker 4: doing all the work. Yes, I have a certain vantage point,
Speaker 4: but let's collaborate.
Speaker 3: Let me get your insight. I might not agree with it,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna at least ask you, right.
Speaker 4: So, I think when you kind of start to facilitate
Speaker 4: that type of ownership and that collaboration from a team
Speaker 4: get you get even more buying. You know, I think
Speaker 4: I think Malarkey did a good job at that. You know,
Speaker 4: I think that you know, we had the leadership councils
Speaker 4: and you know, all those different things, and I know
Speaker 4: you probably had your opinions on.
Speaker 3: My Larkey, but it's like, you know.
Speaker 4: We we had like a core group of guys, whether
Speaker 4: it be Vets, Starters, you know, the leaders of the team,
Speaker 4: and they kind of we kind of governing the locker
Speaker 4: room essentially, you know what I mean, if we've seen
Speaker 4: something going going on, we were able to hold people accountable.
Speaker 4: And you know, I think that we still had you
Speaker 4: guys still had it, you know, on the team. But
Speaker 4: I think having people feel like, you know, they're part
Speaker 4: of something that they have a piece of ownership in it.
Speaker 4: I think that applies to any any type of business,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean, is that something you implement with the
Speaker 2: stuff you have going on.
Speaker 4: I think you gotta like it's a difference between paying
Speaker 4: somebody to do a job and like, let's just say
Speaker 4: me and you start a business and you should Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: So it's like, let's just say we go in, you know,
Speaker 4: on a joint venture, and you know, I could pay
Speaker 4: you as a consultant or an employee, or I could say, hey, look,
Speaker 4: take some equity and we'll just kind of build this
Speaker 4: thing out. You're gonna put way more time and energy
Speaker 4: into it, knowing that you have some skin in the game,
Speaker 4: knowing that you're that you have ownership, and that you
Speaker 4: a piece of it. Then as I say, hey, look,
Speaker 4: I'm just going to pay you for nine to five.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You can clock and you clock out, but if you
Speaker 4: own part of that business, you might work nine to
Speaker 4: five and then go home and work seven to ten,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's all about.
Speaker 4: Having that sense and trying to facilitate that and stimulate
Speaker 4: that in people to say, hey, look, buy into what
Speaker 4: we're doing, you know what I mean. So I think
Speaker 4: that that's something I've always kind of looked at it
Speaker 4: from coaches, and I can apply that in the business
Speaker 4: world as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good man.
Speaker 1: Yeah how about what? Yeah another trend? What business have
Speaker 1: you implemented that kind of like thought, like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what all all of your stuff that you do.
Speaker 1: I see you're getting a lot more traffic and action
Speaker 1: through Vainner, Vanner Media, Vyner Sports that you're with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they've taught you, how much
Speaker 1: you collaborate with them. I don't know what all businesses
Speaker 1: you're in besides you know, the vegan really the vegan business,
Speaker 1: really in some of the philanthropy work that you do.
Speaker 2: But are you Are you involved in any CBD or
Speaker 2: TSG companies?
Speaker 4: No, I'm on like a board called Athletes for Care
Speaker 4: that we kind of advocate for athletes' rights to use
Speaker 4: cannabis products. But I'm not specifically affiliated with any cd
Speaker 4: D or cannabis. A lot of people came out the
Speaker 4: woodwork kind of when I started advocating for it.
Speaker 2: And you know this is probably because it's like trendy.
Speaker 3: It's very trendy four years ago.
Speaker 2: You came out with them. Might cause my clean things.
Speaker 2: You have the marijuana leagues on there, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, you had a random drug test.
Speaker 4: Thought I had many drug tests over the last couple
Speaker 4: of years.
Speaker 2: What did you get random judges for like substance abuse
Speaker 2: or for p D because they can't they can't substance
Speaker 2: abus Once a year.
Speaker 4: It's only once a year, but I had, like I
Speaker 4: probably had seven to eight p D tests last year.
Speaker 3: Really, I mean, you were right there. He's like Derek
Speaker 3: got it again.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: But but no, I mean when you say about like
Speaker 3: you mentioned Vayner, Like.
Speaker 1: Hang on a second, you're on that panel, what are
Speaker 1: the benefits of cannabis, Like what do you advocate for?
Speaker 1: Like why the TG and cannabis route over the pain
Speaker 1: meds and the medicines that we have now in our league?
Speaker 3: Bro?
Speaker 4: Like you guys remember like all the reports of the
Speaker 4: ct and like guys killing themselves, Like when Junior Saya
Speaker 4: committed suicide, that kind of shook me up. I was like, damn,
Speaker 4: this guy had everything. He played twenty years row a famer.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, what would it take for him to
Speaker 4: kill himself? Like he had it all? And so when
Speaker 4: I started to really look into it, and I'm looking
Speaker 4: at CTE and like.
Speaker 3: Like is that going to be me in ten fifteen years?
Speaker 4: And so I started looking into other alternatives because there
Speaker 4: weren't no options. It was just like, yeah, you play
Speaker 4: this game and you hope and pray to God that
Speaker 4: you're going to be straight in you know, fifteen twenty
Speaker 4: years that you could live.
Speaker 3: A normal life. But I was like, nah, I got
Speaker 3: to be more proactive.
Speaker 4: And then eug Monroe, he was playing for the Ravens
Speaker 4: at the time, he was at the actual first you
Speaker 4: know advocate for NFL in the NFL for cannabis, and
Speaker 4: I seen him on CNN talking about it, and I
Speaker 4: reached out to him like, yo, bro, like what's up,
Speaker 4: Like I need to learn about this, and he just
Speaker 4: started sharing research with me. Like in Israel they're doing
Speaker 4: they do a lot of research on cannabis. Because it's
Speaker 4: a little bit more open, you can you can.
Speaker 3: Research it more easily.
Speaker 4: And so I started reading stuff, looking at the neural
Speaker 4: protecting qualities of it.
Speaker 3: You know, when you when you.
Speaker 4: Go play football, like you're doing this all day, and
Speaker 4: so you get those subconcussive hits that create inflammation in
Speaker 4: your brain. And so what CBD oil is basically patented
Speaker 4: as is a neural protectant. So if you take CBD oil,
Speaker 4: let's just say you take some in theory before you
Speaker 4: go and play a game, it would essentially limit the
Speaker 4: amount of inflammation that comes into your brain from you
Speaker 4: know different you know, head trauma, So that was the
Speaker 4: big reason for me. I know a lot of guys
Speaker 4: use it for pain inflammation. It's just a healthier alternative.
Speaker 4: It works works naturally with your system as opposed to
Speaker 4: opioid or you know, another painkiller.
Speaker 3: It's just not as toxic to your system. So it's
Speaker 3: all about having options, bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, CBD is definitely like something that could absolutely help.
Speaker 2: I have a buddy who has a company in Arizona
Speaker 2: called True Infusion, and they do like everything organic, like
Speaker 2: the right way to make CBD and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: So they run all that and he all the times like, man,
Speaker 2: I wish I could give you some of the stuff
Speaker 2: to take while you're playing. And it's like if you
Speaker 2: go and I took a pain pill, like for the
Speaker 2: next three four days, like I've taken pain pills and
Speaker 2: we can all agree, Like you don't feel better then
Speaker 2: when you take a pain pill, like it's you feel amazing.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why it's so addictive. Yeah, exactly, it's
Speaker 2: not that you don't have pain. It's like you forgot
Speaker 2: there ever existed the word pain. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Life's just different now, you know what I'm saying, so
Speaker 2: but like once once you take that, like that chemically
Speaker 2: imbalances your brain and so for the next three four days,
Speaker 2: like I'll even notice, like you know, I'm more ear
Speaker 2: or I'm more like I'm more short with my wife
Speaker 2: or my patience. I don't have as much patiences my
Speaker 2: kids or whatever. So it's kind of like it's so
Speaker 2: easy to see and something like a plant, like that's
Speaker 2: so natural, and I just don't know why there's so
Speaker 2: much resistance on something like even hemp. Like if you
Speaker 2: started growing and producing hemp, I've said this before in
Speaker 2: this podcast, Like there's one hundred thousand products that you
Speaker 2: could replace with hemp, including plastic, which is like like
Speaker 2: truly affecting our ecosystem, our oceans and everything to an
Speaker 2: extent that it's not going to be us. And that's
Speaker 2: like human means are naturally selfish. Human beings are where
Speaker 2: we come from caveman times. We haven't involved enough. We're
Speaker 2: so focused on how do we eat, how do we reproduce,
Speaker 2: and how do we get ours? You know, and the
Speaker 2: thing we need to start focusing on is like it's
Speaker 2: not going to be our kids, or it means going
Speaker 2: to be our kids kids you know, it says our
Speaker 2: grandkids are great grandkids that are going to feel the
Speaker 2: effects of what we're doing now. And something as simple
Speaker 2: as letting an athlete it takes something like CBD would
Speaker 2: be so beneficial because you don't have those things, like
Speaker 2: if you really were focused on like, let's focus on
Speaker 2: CT being an issue, Like you don't want brain issue
Speaker 2: to have like outfits linman defensive linemen, those like little
Speaker 2: tiny hits we call them sub subconcussion, sub subconcussive hits
Speaker 2: like those those are the things that add up over time,
Speaker 2: and those are things you don't feel. But I noticed
Speaker 2: myself like even in November December, late in the season,
Speaker 2: I'll be home and I'll be having my buddies will
Speaker 2: come see me, and they'll be talking to me after games.
Speaker 2: I'm not even I can't even really form send it.
Speaker 2: I can talk, I can't talk, but like I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm not as like, uh, I'm not as sharp, I'm
Speaker 2: not as like you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 2: definitely something that could be. Yeah, we should be focused on.
Speaker 1: Years down the road, like probably in the near future,
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years whatever, we're going to look back at
Speaker 1: this time and kind of like laugh at the way
Speaker 1: we're the NFL and we all tried to go after hey,
Speaker 1: replacing this with this and be like, yeah, what were
Speaker 1: we thinking taking all this stuff back then? We kind
Speaker 1: of know it now, yeah, you know intuitably we know
Speaker 1: that now, but we're definitely going to look back. One man,
Speaker 1: I can't believe it took this long for this stuff
Speaker 1: to kind of pass.
Speaker 2: Or it's the same thing as like we look at
Speaker 2: we look at like thirty years ago or one hundred
Speaker 2: years ago, and doctors like there's a there's a bell
Speaker 2: Mead plantation down the road and they have like it's
Speaker 2: a really cool place to go check out. I went
Speaker 2: and saw it's like a museum. And this woman had asthma. Well,
Speaker 2: whenever the eighteen hundred or whatever that was around, the
Speaker 2: prescribed her to smoke cigarettes and climb at high altitudes
Speaker 2: because the lung is sort of got because the lung
Speaker 2: was viewed as a muscle and not like you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it's like and you look.
Speaker 2: At it, you're like, what idiots? Yeah, but in one
Speaker 2: hundred years they look at us going, yo, what idiots. Well,
Speaker 2: it's so like technology is moving so fast, which allows
Speaker 2: us modern medicine to also move equally as fast. So
Speaker 2: the doctors that go to school in the eighties and
Speaker 2: doctors their identity is one hundred percent what they know,
Speaker 2: you know. So so if you go if you have
Speaker 2: a doctor that went to school, graduated in eighty two
Speaker 2: and didn't do anything else, his shit's so outdated and
Speaker 2: it's not fair. And if you say, well, a doctor
Speaker 2: told me to do this, doctors can be idiots too,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, unless you stay on top
Speaker 2: of everything and go towards like hey, like we got
Speaker 2: to I had to learn and progress and grow, Like
Speaker 2: it's it's so easy to have a PhD.
Speaker 1: I mean, we deal with that a little bit in
Speaker 1: the training that I was just about to say that
Speaker 1: the teams you're on the training rooms, you're kind of
Speaker 1: dated to what they know, and guys like yourself, like,
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot from you over just being with
Speaker 1: you for a year, and yeah, and you just kind
Speaker 1: of you kind of realize the education you try and
Speaker 1: get outside of the facility and the stuff you read
Speaker 1: into or listen whether it's a podcast or any of
Speaker 1: that information out there and you start to learn and
Speaker 1: question a few things or try to challenge not even
Speaker 1: not necessarily challenge it, or you realize your innocent self
Speaker 1: bringing it up in that environment and when they kind
Speaker 1: of just like laugh at you or or you know,
Speaker 1: just frown upon it or belittle it, and you're just like, man,
Speaker 1: what you know, I've read this is actually has some
Speaker 1: really beneficial stuff and a lot of these a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of trainers or doctors anybody, they need
Speaker 1: a lot of data and research throughout time to kind
Speaker 1: of prove that instead of being like being Greenfield somebody
Speaker 1: who experiments on himselves all the time and can give
Speaker 1: you data and some stuff to try out and go
Speaker 1: after and you're kind of like, yo, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do this too. They're kind of like, nah, we're not
Speaker 1: there yet, or that doesn't make sense because of what
Speaker 1: I was taught back in you know, the nineties.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they it's funny. I think a few years ago
Speaker 4: my nickname around the facility was doctor Morgan, and I
Speaker 4: definitely see that it wasn't in a positive way like
Speaker 4: it was the it was because you know, we talk
Speaker 4: about being in the training room, the outdated you know,
Speaker 4: methodologies and the approach to treating injuries. And you know,
Speaker 4: if you're a rookie, fringe free agent type of.
Speaker 3: Guy, you don't necessarily have time to waste.
Speaker 4: You know, I sing your knee, you need something that
Speaker 4: might has to expedite that train that that that healing.
Speaker 3: And so you know, I do a lot of.
Speaker 4: Things that are unorthodox, that are necessarily outside of the
Speaker 4: the realm of expertise of these trainers. So, like you said,
Speaker 4: they don't necessarily understand it. But I was telling guys like, look,
Speaker 4: every time you get injured, get a second opinion. Absolutely
Speaker 4: has down, get a second opinion. You can't rely on
Speaker 4: somebody because it's a conflict of ventures. The way the
Speaker 4: training room is set up in the NFL, it's just
Speaker 4: a conflict of interest.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: Like I've seen guys, you know, get screwed over because
Speaker 4: of politics and just different you know, things that weren't
Speaker 4: necessarily related to the injury.
Speaker 3: It was just like political stuff. It wasn't it was
Speaker 3: bad advice.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not naming names, but I just think
Speaker 4: that the more innovative you can be when it comes
Speaker 4: to your health, and the more flexible you can be,
Speaker 4: because we all know, like the rate of information is
Speaker 4: like doubling at like an exponential rate because there's so
Speaker 4: much information out there. Yes, so like everything's constantly changing,
Speaker 4: and so if you're still relying on stuff from like
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty two or even two three years ago, you're outdated.
Speaker 2: Right, you're not continuing that knowledge. You an education, bro.
Speaker 1: But the play Devil's Advocate, like those guys, it's not
Speaker 1: that they want to. It's not that anybody tries to
Speaker 1: necessarily mess you over. It's just that everyone kind of
Speaker 1: works under the what they the owners like their job
Speaker 1: is to get the product on the field as fast
Speaker 1: as possible from what they know, and it's not and
Speaker 1: when the head coach or the owner anybody comes in
Speaker 1: your office and they're checking on a player, like hey,
Speaker 1: where's so and so at, Like where are we at
Speaker 1: with him? And in their mind they're just going over
Speaker 1: anything they've ever went with you, like, yeah, we should
Speaker 1: probably have him ready in a week, knowing in his
Speaker 1: mind maybe it's two weeks, but they don't want to
Speaker 1: hear that right now. So I'm going to say a week,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to go to that athlete and
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, hey, you know, we need to
Speaker 1: get a roll on how you feel and how that
Speaker 1: they don't hear the right response, they can filter how
Speaker 1: they won you know, either hey, you know he they're
Speaker 1: either battling for you or it's like, you know, he's
Speaker 1: just not necessarily you know, he's not pushing the way
Speaker 1: we're trying to push. You can get painted different ways,
Speaker 1: they can pay it different ways. But they have a
Speaker 1: job to try to you know, they have to go
Speaker 1: home too.
Speaker 3: It's a position for them to be in.
Speaker 4: It's not fair, right, And we talk about that at
Speaker 4: the PA is like, can you have you know, a
Speaker 4: built in second opinion or and somebody who's not affiliated
Speaker 4: with the team in essentially come in and administer rehab
Speaker 4: and second opinions and advice because I get it, bro, Like,
Speaker 4: I get there in a mess up position. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, at the end of the day, who
Speaker 4: really suffers though? It's the player, right, you know, we're
Speaker 4: at the you know, we're at the you know, discretion
Speaker 4: of what they tell us. And if you're a young guy,
Speaker 4: you know you're gonna believe mostly of what everybody tells you.
Speaker 3: And so you know, it is what it is. I
Speaker 3: know We can't get too deep.
Speaker 4: On that on here, but I definitely think that the
Speaker 4: more guys can educate themselves and look at to like,
Speaker 4: you know, you're a vet bro, like, so you're setting
Speaker 4: an example for somebody coming into the to the league.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: So it's like if I come in and I'm a rookie,
Speaker 4: I'm looking at te la Wan Okay, I see he
Speaker 4: has a routine. You know, he has an approch to
Speaker 4: how he maintains his health, and yes, he's a professional
Speaker 4: about it. So I think the more that we can
Speaker 4: model that and you can model that, the better and
Speaker 4: just kind of being that sound board for guys and
Speaker 4: that voice of reason, because when you're coming in as
Speaker 4: a rookie and you're not like a high draft pick.
Speaker 2: Bro, You're just you're kind of on your own, you're
Speaker 2: going I've never I've never had an issue with like
Speaker 2: Todd Tursl. He's the head trainer of the Titans. He's
Speaker 2: always been so good to me, so good to me
Speaker 2: in so many ways. And when we talk about education,
Speaker 2: like the difficult thing about education, especially with modern medicine,
Speaker 2: is that there's so much information out there, but it's
Speaker 2: not just about this is the way. It's this is
Speaker 2: the way, and there's another one saying no, that's the way,
Speaker 2: and then there's one that's more in the middle. There's
Speaker 2: so many different ways to process information and so many
Speaker 2: different opinions that when you go and you get these things.
Speaker 2: If we're talking about an a cl all these things,
Speaker 2: there's positives and negatives to all that stuff. And it's
Speaker 2: people's jobs as are who are in that position, whether
Speaker 2: you be a doctor or a trainer, a physical therapist,
Speaker 2: you it's your job to go and not only read
Speaker 2: the stuff that you agree with, but read the stuff
Speaker 2: you don't agree with as well. So you have an
Speaker 2: opportunity for your own self to play devil's advocate and
Speaker 2: keep you in check for the stuff that you know
Speaker 2: you might have felt, well that's ridiculous before. Well it's
Speaker 2: a classic term. Don't knock and seel. You try it,
Speaker 2: You got it. You got to give those things a shot.
Speaker 2: I like Ben Greenfield so much because he does do
Speaker 2: those things. He'll he'll hack his sana to sort of
Speaker 2: over two her degrees and he'll do yoga in it
Speaker 2: for ninety minutes, you know, and just to see what
Speaker 2: that's like. He'll go through different recovery routines and check
Speaker 2: stuff out, but he puts on his body. But a
Speaker 2: big thing people to know is need to know as well,
Speaker 2: is not every human being the same. It's not like
Speaker 2: we're all four trucks and manufacturing in the same place.
Speaker 2: My GenEx are different than nears are different the nears.
Speaker 2: Some things are gonna work better for me than they
Speaker 2: are for you. Some guys love the static stretch, you know,
Speaker 2: and then but there's things that says sag stretching shuts
Speaker 2: out for CNS, which is your central nervous system. So
Speaker 2: but some guys, I've seen dudes in our locker room
Speaker 2: go and be like literally static stretching before games turns,
Speaker 2: before we go out. They say, like, it's an hour
Speaker 2: and a half until it's right. But then I see
Speaker 2: those guys killing it. He don't, Yeah, you see, I
Speaker 2: see those guys killing it. So it's like it's tough.
Speaker 2: But I will say, you're a lot. You're more than
Speaker 2: welcome to talk about whatever you want because like you
Speaker 2: should never there should never be there can always be
Speaker 2: pushback for having an opinion, but like as long as
Speaker 2: it's productive, like what you're all the things you're saying
Speaker 2: is productive. I there's something you don't agree with, then
Speaker 2: you should never feel bad. I. Yeah, I'm employed by
Speaker 2: the Titans. I think the Titans do an amazing job.
Speaker 2: They do a great job. You yourself, you're you can
Speaker 2: say whatever you want and I'm I will say whatever
Speaker 2: I want to, you know, because it's like, that's what
Speaker 2: the whole point of having you know, your own production
Speaker 2: of things right now, it's it's not hey, Derek Morgan
Speaker 2: said this. Derek Morgan said that. It's like, oh, Derek
Speaker 2: Morgan actually said this, right, these are his words. Right.
Speaker 1: You know what I enjoyed with Todd is and you
Speaker 1: you probably you probably I would assume you probably had
Speaker 1: the same relationship with them. But like when Todd he
Speaker 1: would know that I read or like do a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff to where I'm legitimately asking questions or if
Speaker 1: I take something or bring it in and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 2: Think that's better, go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1: Like guys like working with you, I think that's where
Speaker 1: you get that's where you get progress. And you said
Speaker 1: it earlier, like guys coming into the league in the league,
Speaker 1: young cats like always educating yourself because again, like you
Speaker 1: are your own business no matter what. And if you
Speaker 1: get messed over and you kind of go down that path,
Speaker 1: like it's just as much on you as it is
Speaker 1: you wanting to point a finger at like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I got messed over this way. Like if you find
Speaker 1: the right vest, ask questions too, and you find the
Speaker 1: knowledge yourself and try to constantly educate, you can kind
Speaker 1: of stay on top or or try and be a
Speaker 1: little ahead of the game to where you know you.
Speaker 2: Go about it the right way. I see a little,
Speaker 2: I see a little.
Speaker 3: Your teeth look good, man.
Speaker 2: Do you even have to brush your teeth anymore? They just
Speaker 2: stay well all the time. No, I do, because my
Speaker 2: boy just choose gum now to I don't have to
Speaker 2: he puts in a cup at night. Well, man, I
Speaker 2: actually have to floorge Washington dentures.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: I have to floss now too. I used to not
Speaker 2: have to floss just because you didn't flost before. It's
Speaker 2: what you're saying. Well, you know if that's true.
Speaker 1: But you know, people when they look at me, they
Speaker 1: didn't know if they should kick a field goal or
Speaker 1: just you know, few me a toothbrush.
Speaker 2: Hey, cop, what do you got going on under the hood.
Speaker 2: What's up with the meat cleavers? Bro?
Speaker 3: Kind of miss him though?
Speaker 2: What's that you said? You kind of miss him?
Speaker 1: You go back on my I G page and you know,
Speaker 1: find some old photos smile at.
Speaker 2: Him, laugh like, look, I didn't know. I didn't know
Speaker 2: there was an issue before. But now that I see this,
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, there was definite an issue before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's clearly something on.
Speaker 2: My personality is I guess right, guys didn't even know it.
Speaker 2: Look at that, My.
Speaker 1: Personality was so solid that you guys didn't really know
Speaker 1: how bad my teeth were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 4: Kind of like straight hand, you know, Like, I mean,
Speaker 4: he has the gap, but it's like his personality.
Speaker 2: He fixed his gap. He fixed it, and then he
Speaker 2: decided he's like this ain't me and he actually went
Speaker 2: back and reap and fixed it.
Speaker 1: He recapped, he recat I told when I was going,
Speaker 1: when they were about to do everything, I was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: if I don't like this, can we shave.
Speaker 2: Everything back to what it used to be? And like
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, no problem that. He's like can't
Speaker 2: that's a lie? What?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Well, when they put him in that you kind of bite,
Speaker 1: and he shaved stuff perfectly anyway.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, you set me a picture of
Speaker 2: your teeth when they.
Speaker 3: Filed the things down.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying here, my two year old's teeth with
Speaker 2: the same size as your teeth when they filed them down.
Speaker 2: So I'm saying she had these little I'm saying like,
Speaker 2: if you like, hey, I want to go back to
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, it's just too late now, Like your
Speaker 2: teeth are perfect.
Speaker 3: It's a lifetime decision.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lifetime save these right here.
Speaker 1: If I wasn't, if I didn't like it, he'd be
Speaker 1: able to shave these to look like my old ones.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they just you know, they did just give
Speaker 2: you some mean be like chewing this for half an hour, dude,
Speaker 2: get your teeth back.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're good, You're good to go.
Speaker 2: He didn't know what else we got, man. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Vaynter Sports. You talk about Vayner Sports.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I take him in doses. Love Gary Vee.
Speaker 1: But obviously he's all over the place. Yeah, talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about vander Sports and going up there Vanner Media.
Speaker 1: I want to get my ass up there and be
Speaker 1: in that office.
Speaker 2: Sometime. I remember this off season we were supposed to
Speaker 2: go together. You kind of win on your own. It's cool.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't quite remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you have CTE, but we don't want to
Speaker 1: jump over that.
Speaker 3: Look, bro.
Speaker 4: Like when I came in, I had c aa are
Speaker 4: you a c I want to see shoot on him?
Speaker 2: Do it? Let's I took listen litten do it.
Speaker 4: When I came in, like not even before I came in,
Speaker 4: I was doing all my agent interviews and they're like, hey, Derek,
Speaker 4: what's your favorite show.
Speaker 3: I'm like The Office, The Office, we can get you
Speaker 3: on that show. I'm like, what great.
Speaker 4: They're showing me the presentation there guys there, I'm looking
Speaker 4: at Lebron James and Peyton Manning and Drew.
Speaker 2: Bey, just like yeah, I could do that.
Speaker 4: And then when I got drafted, I was like, hey,
Speaker 4: remember about that.
Speaker 2: Remember The Office? You said you can get me on.
Speaker 3: The show right off?
Speaker 4: You know, Steve kr You're like, oh, yeah, we'll look
Speaker 4: into it. Never heard anything from m Damn. And it
Speaker 4: was like they had set my expectations so high of
Speaker 4: what an agency was supposed to deliver, and they just
Speaker 4: I mean, bro, I got nothing, and it was almost like, yeah.
Speaker 3: You're in a bad market, You're in Nashville. But I'm like, look, bro,
Speaker 3: like I was the first round pick. Can I at
Speaker 3: least get a car deal, like something, something local?
Speaker 2: And you know, it was more.
Speaker 4: So like a trickle down, like they had the headliners,
Speaker 4: like the guys that just mentioned the Peyton Manning's at
Speaker 4: the time. Lebron was with them, like everybody you could
Speaker 4: think of they have, and so it's like it's almost
Speaker 4: like when something comes to them, those.
Speaker 3: Guys get it first, and you get you get what's left.
Speaker 2: And get that trickle down.
Speaker 1: Hey, we ain't got nothing for you, man, Yeah we
Speaker 1: got a great value add you could possibly do for
Speaker 1: ro Mark.
Speaker 4: Like and and and and So I was with them
Speaker 4: for like forty two minute Mark.
Speaker 3: I was with them for.
Speaker 4: About maybe five years, right, So the first year, you know,
Speaker 4: I was talking to him and then they just like
Speaker 4: went ghosts. I didn't hear from I didn't talk to
Speaker 4: my agent, who's ragent. You mean, put put names out if.
Speaker 2: You want to, you can, you said whatever, And then
Speaker 2: if you're driving home and you're like check it out,
Speaker 2: I don't want to put on.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day I came into
Speaker 4: the league. We talked and about it was like a
Speaker 4: three year hiatus where I didn't hear anything from my
Speaker 4: agent three years, like three years. And then coming around
Speaker 4: on my contract year, Hey, Derrick, how's it going.
Speaker 1: So you're not even hearing check You're not even getting
Speaker 1: check ins or anything.
Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about marketing, adverthing.
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about Hello, what's up, bro? Like nada.
Speaker 4: So it comes around to my contract year and I
Speaker 4: started getting those texts, what's up, d how you doing man?
Speaker 3: Just checking in? And I'm like, oh, it's contract time.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: And so I fired them before my contract and I
Speaker 4: went out and got somebody else and for a reduced
Speaker 4: straight you know, because I didn't I didn't agree with
Speaker 4: the three percent they weren't delivering to get that. So
Speaker 4: I get negotiating on my terms with another agency, same thing,
Speaker 4: over promised, under delivered. And my whole thing was They're like,
Speaker 4: look there, we got this McDonald's deal for you got
Speaker 4: the subway deal coach PEPSI, And I was like, look.
Speaker 2: Bro, the next Jared.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I was.
Speaker 2: Let's let's not be the next I didn't think that
Speaker 2: joke all the way through.
Speaker 3: Were listen, all right?
Speaker 4: So moving forward anyway, I told them, I said, look,
Speaker 4: I can't endorse something that I wouldn't give my kids.
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't give my kids McDonald's, so I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't endorse this.
Speaker 3: So it was my values.
Speaker 4: I was kind of like pulling that and they were
Speaker 4: just kind of like, we got nothing for you. So
Speaker 4: I fired them, damn son. And so two years ago,
Speaker 4: what was that second agency?
Speaker 3: Vanguard?
Speaker 2: Vanguard? Yeah, Vanguard Vanguard like the index funds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't them though, that was just.
Speaker 2: A different one, so like it but different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know if it was like an
Speaker 1: umbrella like Vanguard is like we're going to branch off
Speaker 1: me an agency now too.
Speaker 3: I mean they could if they wanted to.
Speaker 4: But so anyway, I got connected to Vander Sports from
Speaker 4: one of my friends in college and they was like, hey,
Speaker 4: have you heard of Gary Vaynerchuk And I was like who?
Speaker 3: And so I started googling.
Speaker 4: Them and you know, taking them in doses and yeah,
Speaker 4: she just borked into the bike.
Speaker 2: That's all right, can't smell it from here. All right, Well,
Speaker 2: now you're getting us sick.
Speaker 3: I don't, look, it's just the alismologies.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I got in touch with Vandersports, and I
Speaker 4: mean bro like their business, rollerdecks and their network insane.
Speaker 4: They weren't approaching the sports agent you know, industry from
Speaker 4: same perspective as everybody else, right, they were approaching representing
Speaker 4: athletes from more of a business mindset. And it's like, hey, look,
Speaker 4: we have this whole rolodex of companies that we work with.
Speaker 3: Let's leverage that.
Speaker 4: Not everybody's going to be a Gatorade ad or a
Speaker 4: Pepsi ad, you know, those huge ads.
Speaker 3: But we do have.
Speaker 4: Something like an accounting service who likes the service, entrepreneurs
Speaker 4: that want to be affiliated with an NFL guy. Oh
Speaker 4: and by the way, they'll pay you fifty racks.
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, well that makes sense to me.
Speaker 3: I like what they're doing, where do I sign exactly?
Speaker 4: So I think what they did and I think what
Speaker 4: they're doing is they're evolving and they're kind of challenging
Speaker 4: the status quo of what an agent looks like instead
Speaker 4: of you know, getting collecting a check and kind of
Speaker 4: seeing your next contract.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I went to Vanger and They had no incentive from
Speaker 4: my contract because I was still with my old agent,
Speaker 4: so they were just basically getting paid on what they
Speaker 4: brought to the table. And you know, through the last
Speaker 4: two years, I've been able to kind of reach out
Speaker 4: to them, but hey, do you have a connection with
Speaker 4: this guy? And AJ be like hey one second, and
Speaker 4: literally within you know, twenty four hours, he would have
Speaker 4: me connected to that person. So their network were so
Speaker 4: strong that I was able to tap into that and
Speaker 4: leverage it to say, hey, look this is what this
Speaker 4: is the things that I'm focused on. Can you help
Speaker 4: me get in contact with this person or set up
Speaker 4: a meeting or a call.
Speaker 3: And they were able to do that.
Speaker 4: And on the marketing side, I mean they just looked
Speaker 4: into their role indecks of companies and to say, hey,
Speaker 4: look we have this company here, they want to work
Speaker 4: with you, They're willing to pay or get you an
Speaker 4: equity deal and whatnot. And so that's the other thing
Speaker 4: that we started to look at is how can we
Speaker 4: get equity out of companies instead of just getting compensation.
Speaker 4: So like the Beyond Meat deal that me and my
Speaker 4: wife are part of, like we were brand ambassadors, but
Speaker 4: we didn't take any money up front. We just took
Speaker 4: equity and so you know, I got to thank my
Speaker 4: wife for negotiating that deal.
Speaker 3: But it's almost like having the long term in mind
Speaker 3: where you don't have to take the quick cash, right.
Speaker 4: And it's like I could have took fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 4: from Beyond Meat, but I took thirty thousand dollars worth
Speaker 4: of equal And I mean.
Speaker 3: You see what Beyond Me is doing right now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's like having that mindset and that that
Speaker 4: approach to kind of say.
Speaker 3: Look, let's not let's think more long term on things.
Speaker 4: And vain Or Sports has really done a great job
Speaker 4: of helping me approach the business, you know, side of
Speaker 4: things from that from that vantage.
Speaker 1: Point, and athletes are becoming more aware of theirselves as
Speaker 1: a business more than just.
Speaker 2: A football player.
Speaker 1: Like guys that in our circles all the time are
Speaker 1: getting into different endeavors for different things all the time,
Speaker 1: like you yourself, Taylor Is. I try to but it's
Speaker 1: pretty dope, man, talk about talk about your wife and
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole beyond not even beyond me, but
Speaker 1: the whole vegan stuff. I'm a big carnivore. Talk about that. Man,
Speaker 1: you talk about how big, how much of a stud
Speaker 1: your wife has has been in this whole process.
Speaker 3: Have you have you have you guys ever tasted my
Speaker 3: wife's food?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tasted something like when guys sometimes you guys
Speaker 1: tell me about her.
Speaker 2: She made Thekwan's food.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, said okay, Google, so you kind of see
Speaker 4: how she cooks, right, So the types of food that
Speaker 4: she cooks doesn't make you want to feel like you're compromising.
Speaker 4: Right when I think vegan, I was like, man, I
Speaker 4: gotta eat none but vegetables. Like we literally tried to
Speaker 4: go vegan in twenty fifteen and my wife went to
Speaker 4: Whole Foods and she bought a whole bunch of vegetables
Speaker 4: and we just came home and dumped it on the
Speaker 4: counter and were like, what the hell do.
Speaker 3: We do with this?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: And we lasted like seven days and we failed, and
Speaker 4: we you know this. Back around twenty seventeen, I was
Speaker 4: looking for different ways to enhance my recovery because I
Speaker 4: kept hearing that it cut down inflammation. And I was
Speaker 4: consulting with this nutrition that she kept sending me research
Speaker 4: and research, and I kept looking it up and I'm like, shoot,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try this off season. It's like March at
Speaker 4: this time, let's try it. So I slowly started to
Speaker 4: cut out red meat, I cut out poultry, eggs, and
Speaker 4: then the last thing to go was dairy. And so
Speaker 4: what I realized was what I started to notice was
Speaker 4: every time I ate something that didn't have animal products
Speaker 4: in it, I felt like I was I didn't have
Speaker 4: that slump you know, when you eat something you kind
Speaker 4: of your body kind of takes a little bit to
Speaker 4: get back going, because that's your body breaking down whatever
Speaker 4: you put into your stomach. So it's creating, it's using
Speaker 4: a lot of energy to.
Speaker 3: Break down whatever you eat.
Speaker 4: So when you eat more of a plant based diet,
Speaker 4: it's easier on your system to process that and digest it,
Speaker 4: so you can use those that energy for other systems
Speaker 4: in your body.
Speaker 3: And so for me, that was another thing I looked at.
Speaker 4: I have hereditary high blood pressure, and so I was
Speaker 4: twenty one years old with high blood pressure as a
Speaker 4: Division one athlete, Like that didn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3: And so when I got my blood panels back, that
Speaker 3: was back the perfect you know, the levels were amazing, So.
Speaker 4: That dropped my sea reactive protein, which is your inflammation drop,
Speaker 4: and then just my overall energy.
Speaker 3: Bro, Like, I felt great. Like the first year I
Speaker 3: went through.
Speaker 4: It was twenty seventeen and we're in training camp and
Speaker 4: you know, like day nine ten training camp, you start
Speaker 4: to get grind, feel everything. And I was still waking
Speaker 4: up like I'm straight, like I'm a little sore, but
Speaker 4: I'm good, you know what I mean. This is like
Speaker 4: year seven at the time, and I was feeling really good.
Speaker 4: I was scared because the whole, the whole myth is
Speaker 4: what the protein, right, the protein protein protein?
Speaker 3: How can you you know, how's that gonna affect you?
Speaker 4: And so when I came back to training camp, I
Speaker 4: still felt strong, I still felt good, and my weight
Speaker 4: was still pretty sustainable. I was like two sixty two,
Speaker 4: but my body fat a drop, you know, my body
Speaker 4: just kind of leaned out.
Speaker 3: So I'm a big believer in it.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: I tell people, look, if you can do maybe like
Speaker 4: one meal a day that's that doesn't have meat, then
Speaker 4: you're you're on the right track. We don't look at
Speaker 4: it from like a judgemental standpoint, because we get judged, bro,
Speaker 4: Like vegans would judge us for wearing leather shoes.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, like I'm not on that now,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it'll get kind of crazy. That shit will
Speaker 2: get kind of out of hand.
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: Like if you're like, first off, what other people do
Speaker 2: is none of your business, right number one, So fuck
Speaker 2: off you. I just hate it when people are like
Speaker 2: I'm doing this, so everybody should do this. It's like, listen, like,
Speaker 2: I'm not a vegan. Do I think there's a place
Speaker 2: for this world. Absolutely? If someone's a vegan and I'm not,
Speaker 2: does it piss me off? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Not right?
Speaker 2: You know, but I think, like, you know, I think
Speaker 2: people are trying to find these crazy like health like
Speaker 2: go in and I'm gonna be vegan now, but they
Speaker 2: don't understand that what that means. You can be vegan
Speaker 2: and be unhealthy. You know what I'm saying. You can.
Speaker 2: You can be vegan being healthy. And it's like sometimes
Speaker 2: case starting don't put don't eat process me like grass fed,
Speaker 2: take care, take care of your body, Yeah, take your
Speaker 2: body in the right way is like, don't things things
Speaker 2: that are natural? Look at the nutrition nutrition facts in
Speaker 2: the back of the thing. And if there's words you
Speaker 2: can't pronounce probably not, you know what I'm saying, like
Speaker 2: and that that's a great way to start. You'll start
Speaker 2: to feel the energy. It need a lot of green
Speaker 2: screens that you can that can help you have those fats.
Speaker 2: People are so scared of the word fats. They don't
Speaker 2: want to be fat. When fats help exactly, Fat's helpier.
Speaker 2: Like if you like, if you people want to do
Speaker 2: a Kido diet, those types of things. Dairy, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: cut out dairy and it feels amazing. Right Cheese Now,
Speaker 2: if you look at cheese when it's melted, like that's
Speaker 2: in your body, that's gonna you're gonna feel sluggish. But
Speaker 2: and it's if people are going to do vegan, Like
Speaker 2: I've seen people that have gone vegan and they look amazing.
Speaker 2: It looks so healthy, they look great, their you know,
Speaker 2: their body mass is still there and they have their
Speaker 2: high functioning. I've seen other people go vegan and maybe
Speaker 2: they're doing something different or whatever, but they don't look great.
Speaker 2: They almost look sickly at times. And so it's important.
Speaker 2: Just like people want to quick fix for everything that's
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Everyone wants to look at it and see
Speaker 2: an article and be like that's it. That's what I'm
Speaker 2: going to do. In reality. It's like you have to
Speaker 2: educate yourself on some stuff. You're in a documentary coming out,
Speaker 2: So sorry, yeah, it's all right, loops of daisies, you
Speaker 2: have just a bit over rant, but okay, anyway, long
Speaker 2: story show, Like there's a lot of things you need
Speaker 2: to be afraid of, like not afraid of. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of things you need to not fear because of
Speaker 2: fear propaganda like that. What's that documentary that came out
Speaker 2: with the with the What the Health? What the Health?
Speaker 2: Like a lot of that I I I've I haven't
Speaker 2: seen that, but I've seen a doctor's reaction to it
Speaker 2: and stuff. And there's a lot of things in there
Speaker 2: are good. Like there's when you're talking about animal agriculture,
Speaker 2: Like that's scary enough as it is that that is
Speaker 2: bad for the environment. You don't have to fluff it
Speaker 2: up or make it worse to cause like a fear propaganda.
Speaker 2: Like there are things, like we've talked about on this podcast,
Speaker 2: you can do a lot to help this world right
Speaker 2: now taking care of animals and doing it the right
Speaker 2: way and using every bit of the animal Like those
Speaker 2: are good ways for people that want to eat me.
Speaker 2: But it's it's like it's all about making choices and
Speaker 2: doing your and doing your you know, your homework, take
Speaker 2: your get your blood done, see what you're deficient in
Speaker 2: and work on those things, and it's you're going to
Speaker 2: feel better. But it's not just a flip of the
Speaker 2: switch and it's over.
Speaker 3: It's a process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're part of a documentary coming out, aren't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I saw you, I saw you boost. That's what's it
Speaker 1: called called Game Changers? Is it going to change the game?
Speaker 3: I think you will.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger is in it, so I kind
Speaker 1: of piqued my attention.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 4: It's just about plant based athletes, right, you know, it's
Speaker 4: everybody from weightlifters to people who run track, football players,
Speaker 4: Lewis Hamilton, the race car driver. Yeah, I think was
Speaker 4: Venus Williamson or Serena Williams. I think she may be
Speaker 4: a part of it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, when's that dropping September? Yeah, it's pretty dope,
Speaker 3: you know. James Cameron, Yeah, Titanic Okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly a producer on it, and so yeah, it
Speaker 4: seems to be a game here.
Speaker 2: Just let me get on this. Yeah, I'm the plant
Speaker 2: based right now. Yeah, change back everything I just said.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that thing. James CAMRA's doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I lovely. Let's do this thing.
Speaker 1: Fact for people curious about this being vegan or vegan
Speaker 1: diet and kind of the way you go about nutrition,
Speaker 1: the nutrients that you don't necessarily get in a vegan diet,
Speaker 1: I want to know how you get this stuff in
Speaker 1: your body, whether it be vitamin B. You've heard all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, Vitamin B, vitamin B twelve, vitamin
Speaker 1: the iodine, iron, calcium, and zinc.
Speaker 2: Like, how do you do you supplement that? Yeah? You
Speaker 2: supplement that stuff.
Speaker 4: And I think that if you take a you know,
Speaker 4: a big enough sample from the general population, I think
Speaker 4: we're all deficient in those Yeah, because if you look
Speaker 4: at it out of mean B twelve we used to
Speaker 4: get that from the soil, right, but now the soil
Speaker 4: has been so overly farmed and it's so nutrient depleted
Speaker 4: that we don't even get B twelve from the soil.
Speaker 3: No more so, I think that we would all.
Speaker 4: Be deficient in B twelve if we did, you know,
Speaker 4: blood panels and on a regular diet. So I think
Speaker 4: that you know, understanding what could be the deficiencies with
Speaker 4: the vegan diet and supplementing. I mean there might be
Speaker 4: days where you know, I don't have all my macros
Speaker 4: in a in a meal, correct, And I'll just drink
Speaker 4: a protein shake bro like forty grands of protein P protein, and.
Speaker 3: I'll get my amino acid profile.
Speaker 4: And so it's just I think people kind of get
Speaker 4: overworked up about the protein thing.
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, like, all I got to do is
Speaker 3: drink a shake. I'm cool.
Speaker 4: I got my full acid profile and my full protein
Speaker 4: needs for the day.
Speaker 3: And I'm straight, yeah, you know, but supplementation.
Speaker 1: What's uh what your guys is you're in your wife's
Speaker 1: business called company called.
Speaker 3: Shoot my wife is she got her own business.
Speaker 4: She's like, hey, you know, I know we did that
Speaker 4: that uh that appearance together, but I need my half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she start plugging that.
Speaker 4: So her I mean it's chef Charity Morgan. That's you know,
Speaker 4: that's her brands, her personality, and then you know she's
Speaker 4: her businesses is a plant life chef and so she
Speaker 4: does I call her a transitional chef.
Speaker 3: So if you're on the fence, and you're thinking about
Speaker 3: going plant based and you want to try things.
Speaker 4: She's that person that can make you a mac and
Speaker 4: cheese or like a shrimp pole boy.
Speaker 3: Familiar with like exactly, so you don't have to go
Speaker 3: and eat a quinoa bowl, like what's that?
Speaker 4: Like I used to call it canoa, like like people
Speaker 4: don't even know a print stuff. So I think that,
Speaker 4: you know, that's what she's really amazing at. And she
Speaker 4: does a great job. It's a reason fifteen twenty guys
Speaker 4: are on our meal plan. Yeah, it's just that you
Speaker 4: don't have to compromise and the taste and it's hardy,
Speaker 4: you know, it's hardy meal. So I think she's doing
Speaker 4: a good job of kind of creating a brand for herself.
Speaker 4: She's in talks with some some networks to do a show.
Speaker 4: It's the reason I'm retiring, because you know she's retired sugarmoth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got a sugar momba now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, she's she's doing really good on that.
Speaker 4: And you know, we just we're trying to collaborate and enhance.
Speaker 3: Each other's efforts whenever we at at the time. But
Speaker 3: you know, she's doing her thing. I'm doing my thing,
Speaker 3: and then we come.
Speaker 2: Together on Yeah, what's her what's the website chef.
Speaker 4: Charity Morgan dot com And you can find her on
Speaker 4: Twitter and Instagram chef Charity Morgan.
Speaker 2: So we need it right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your philanthropy work, Yeah, talk about talk about the
Speaker 1: things that you're involved in.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 4: The philanthropy has been an evolution over the years and
Speaker 4: really bro like it's like the phonemo. It's kind of
Speaker 4: a form of a phono of like not wanting to
Speaker 4: look up ten years from now, but like, damn, I
Speaker 4: should have did this while I had the platform, Like
Speaker 4: I should have I should have made this relationship or
Speaker 4: I should have did this because the one thing I
Speaker 4: started to adopt is is there's a fear of kind
Speaker 4: of doing stuff and taking a risk. But I think
Speaker 4: the feeling and the regret from not taking risks it's
Speaker 4: something that I want to avoid more so than not
Speaker 4: because I'm okay with taking a risk and trying and
Speaker 4: failing at something, even if you know I fail, at
Speaker 4: least I tried, you know what I mean. So through
Speaker 4: that I've been looking at just different ways to always
Speaker 4: give back, and you know, being that we've gotten to
Speaker 4: this certain level, people look at us as an example,
Speaker 4: and so you want to do the right things, and
Speaker 4: you want to help people, and you want to do
Speaker 4: everything you can. And I've always been like I overanalyze things.
Speaker 4: It's like, man, I did this football camp, but this
Speaker 4: kid's still going back to the same environ I didn't
Speaker 4: really equip him with tools, Like he probably won't make
Speaker 4: the NFL. So what did I do to really help
Speaker 4: this kid other than meeting a professional athletes.
Speaker 2: As him just playing football for a day?
Speaker 4: Yeah, like what And not to say that those are
Speaker 4: bad things, like those are still good things, like he'll
Speaker 4: probably remember that the rest of his life, but in
Speaker 4: terms of being more sustainable and really giving people tangible resources.
Speaker 3: And so I've always looked at that.
Speaker 4: And as I started to look at my money and
Speaker 4: what my money was doing, it wasn't always.
Speaker 3: Matched up with the philanthropy.
Speaker 4: It's like I'm doing the football camps, the back to
Speaker 4: school drives, the Turkey giveaways, but my money's invested in
Speaker 4: over here in the stock market, and I don't know
Speaker 4: what that's doing, right. So I started to look into things.
Speaker 4: I watched this documentary called The Thirteenth Have you guys
Speaker 4: seen that on Netflix. It's on Netflix out It's called thirteenth.
Speaker 4: You know, the thirteenth Amendment is what abolished slavery, but
Speaker 4: there was this caveat in that in that bill where
Speaker 4: it basically said that you could still enslave people for
Speaker 4: criminal charges.
Speaker 1: Is this what you called me about that one time
Speaker 1: when you were calling about exactly prisons?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what that What that thirteenth Amendment did was saying that,
Speaker 4: you know, if if you committed a crime, no matter
Speaker 4: how petty it was, I could lock you up. So
Speaker 4: right after slavery was abolished, all these black people were
Speaker 4: getting locked up for petty offenses loitering, you know, smoking,
Speaker 4: like just just different little petty offenses, and I would
Speaker 4: lock you up and I would get free labor.
Speaker 3: So it was essentially slavery at the end of the day.
Speaker 4: It was just that I criminalized you, and I made
Speaker 4: you a criminal, and I was able to extract free
Speaker 4: labor out of you.
Speaker 3: And so what you see now with the private prison
Speaker 3: industry is it's the same thing.
Speaker 4: You know, we have the we have the world's largest
Speaker 4: we have the world's largest prison population, and the ratio
Speaker 4: and how that adds up stacks up to the rest
Speaker 4: of the world's population.
Speaker 3: It's completely out of balance.
Speaker 4: And so when you look at the statistics around the
Speaker 4: people that are in prison and for petty offenses and
Speaker 4: all those things, it's a reason.
Speaker 3: Why that happens.
Speaker 4: When we talk about private prisons, they're incentivized to keep
Speaker 4: people locked up. So if you come to me and
Speaker 4: I'm a judge and I have some type of affiliation
Speaker 4: with a private prison group like a geo group or
Speaker 4: cour Civic that may be on I might might be
Speaker 4: on their payroll.
Speaker 3: So if you come to me and you're a kid
Speaker 3: and you kind of you.
Speaker 2: Know, as a judge, as the judge, I'll.
Speaker 4: Be more incentivized to lock you up because I know
Speaker 4: that those cour Civic and those geo groups, they have
Speaker 4: a certain quota to make. So if they're not, if
Speaker 4: they're not imprisoning people at a certain rate, they're losing money.
Speaker 3: So they're incentivized to lock people up for petty things.
Speaker 4: And so what I didn't know when I found out
Speaker 4: was that these companies are public companies that are traded
Speaker 4: on the stock market.
Speaker 3: And if you're part of a.
Speaker 4: Fund, the ETF and whatnot, you could unknowingly be invested
Speaker 4: in these companies and so what I started the wake
Speaker 4: up was like, dang, like, let me call my financial advisor. Hey,
Speaker 4: am I am I in these companies? Now you're not okay?
Speaker 4: But what is my money doing? And so I started
Speaker 4: to kind of reallocate my private capital that was invested
Speaker 4: into more impactful investments, so affordable housing developments, technology, training
Speaker 4: for underserved communities, access to capital for minority entrepreneurs, all
Speaker 4: these different things to try to break these cycles. And
Speaker 4: so when you talk about philanthropy, I've kind of evolved
Speaker 4: into like a holistic approach, so hitting a philanthropy to charity,
Speaker 4: but also you know, meaningful investments into these you know,
Speaker 4: communities to try to break these systemic cycles. And so
Speaker 4: what I've done recently we formed an Opportunity Zone fund
Speaker 4: to basically go into these same communities but do what
Speaker 4: I've been doing at scale. You know, we're sitting right
Speaker 4: now in an opportunities zone. I don't know if I
Speaker 4: if I talk to you about.
Speaker 2: This, you mentioned it but as much details.
Speaker 3: So it's like, if you're an opportunity zone.
Speaker 4: Business and I invest in you, I can basically get
Speaker 4: a tax free investment on any type of liquidation. So
Speaker 4: if I have a capital gain and I reallocate that
Speaker 4: capital to the opportunities on right, to the opportunity's own
Speaker 4: business or development or whatnot, and if I hold that
Speaker 4: investment for over ten years, it becomes tax free.
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 4: So what you're seeing is a lot of these private institutions,
Speaker 4: family offices, they have a lot of capital gains. I
Speaker 4: mean some people estimated it being a six point one
Speaker 4: trillion dollar market. So these when this money flows into
Speaker 4: these communities, if it's not done the right way, then
Speaker 4: what you're going to see is more gentrification, more displacement,
Speaker 4: less ownership from the community. So my whole thing is
Speaker 4: making sure that doing I can do my part to
Speaker 4: make sure the investment is done the right way, so
Speaker 4: it's not just top down, Like the worst thing a
Speaker 4: community can ever want is somebody coming in and telling
Speaker 4: them and what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 4: I'm here to help you. I'm here to help you
Speaker 4: solve your problems. I don't care what you say, this
Speaker 4: is what we're going to do. And so that's where
Speaker 4: it's like for me. I feel like when you go
Speaker 4: into these communities, it has to be an inclusive approach.
Speaker 4: Because I can't come into your home and your community
Speaker 4: and tell you what you need without having a conversation.
Speaker 3: With you first.
Speaker 4: And so what you're seeing is people reallocating their money
Speaker 4: to these communities, but solely based on the financial return.
Speaker 3: So what we're doing with our fund.
Speaker 4: Is essentially having a double bottom line, so you have
Speaker 4: a financial return, but you also have some type of social.
Speaker 3: Or environmental return as well.
Speaker 4: So we look at it as a very intentional investment
Speaker 4: approach to revitalizing communities. And you know, we're looking at Nashville, Atlanta,
Speaker 4: Austin where my partner is, Coachville where I'm from. There's
Speaker 4: opportunity zones in all these cities, and you know, we
Speaker 4: have relationships within all.
Speaker 1: These markets, and you're just trying to be more intimate
Speaker 1: with those areas other than letting the very top yes,
Speaker 1: just kind of side here's where all, here's what this
Speaker 1: money is going to go to.
Speaker 2: So then it doesn't kind of.
Speaker 4: Separate exactly, because if you look around Nashville, it's like
Speaker 4: how many cranes are in the sky bro.
Speaker 2: Like fifty Americas crane or megascrans are here? Are you serious?
Speaker 2: Some percentage like that.
Speaker 4: That's high so like, but if you go drive around
Speaker 4: North Nashville, like it's pushing out to North Nashville.
Speaker 3: But what you see are people like these sleazy developers.
Speaker 4: If I had if you're if you're a resident in
Speaker 4: a home and I want to buy your home and
Speaker 4: you won't sell it, they'll go tell Metro and report
Speaker 4: codes on you and say, look, they're not in compliance,
Speaker 4: their their roof is messed up, or they're you're not
Speaker 4: following this, so you can get evicted and I come
Speaker 4: and snatch your home up so I can tear it
Speaker 4: down and build a tall and skinny and have somebody
Speaker 4: move in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot exactly. So that's
Speaker 4: what you see is happening. These people are are not
Speaker 4: you know, privy to what's going on, and they're getting
Speaker 4: taken advantage of because they just don't have the financial literacy,
Speaker 4: the education understand it. And so that's what I'm trying
Speaker 4: to prevent, you know, and play my role prevent from happening.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I mean that's what I've been focused
Speaker 4: on the last couple of months, and we're trying to
Speaker 4: really do it the right way.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. You're a stud man, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's four three nothing? Maddie wanted to
Speaker 1: talk a little ball back there. Well, it was a
Speaker 1: recommend I apologize.
Speaker 2: Four to three is four defensive linemen and three linebacks.
Speaker 2: Over that transitioning from.
Speaker 1: A four three d N two three four outside back
Speaker 1: here just me in my head. I was like, I already,
Speaker 1: we already know, like there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: topics that you'll be able to kind of.
Speaker 3: Go with with. Okay, are we at a time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've been wrapping if you want to
Speaker 2: hit one.
Speaker 1: It was like the transition from a four three hit
Speaker 1: the go ahead, hit that quick, bro.
Speaker 4: I thought I was about to get either traded or released.
Speaker 4: I called my agent at the time, and I was like, Hey,
Speaker 4: they just hired Kim wizend Hunt.
Speaker 3: He's a three four guy. Like, what's up? Am I
Speaker 3: getting released?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: No, they definitely see you as being a part of
Speaker 3: their plans moving forward.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this is the political answer. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like, but I'm like, yo, this is my contract here.
Speaker 4: You just changed my position. And so I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: I had to either take it on an.
Speaker 3: Approach of naw, I'm not doing that or I had
Speaker 3: to approach it with.
Speaker 4: Open mind, and that's what I did. And so I
Speaker 4: think it's all about mindset, right, you know, it's all
Speaker 4: about your approach and your mentality on certain situations. So
Speaker 4: if you focus on the bad, that's all you're going
Speaker 4: to see is bad. But if you focus on the
Speaker 4: you know, the positive outlook, and you'll start to see
Speaker 4: the opportunities in it. And that's exactly how I approached it.
Speaker 4: And so for me, I think it worked out because
Speaker 4: you know, playing four three m that's a lot more
Speaker 4: grinding and hitting three four outside linebacker.
Speaker 3: You're still in the in the trenches.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I might drop out for coverage every other
Speaker 4: couple of plays and that kind of staves your body.
Speaker 4: So I took it on the approach of that. And
Speaker 4: then when you have Dick with Bow coming in and
Speaker 4: running that three.
Speaker 2: Four, that's unreal.
Speaker 4: I love that three before I could play that, you know,
Speaker 4: for ten years. And so you know, it's all about
Speaker 4: the scheme fit. And I think that the scheme, the
Speaker 4: three four scheme fit me and guys like Brian and
Speaker 4: Rackbow skill set very well.
Speaker 3: Like we weren't dropping in the coverage every play. We
Speaker 3: weren't at the.
Speaker 4: Nose taking on double teams and doing things that were
Speaker 4: outside of our skill set, and so I think it's
Speaker 4: all about the scheme and it definitely helped us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. Boys. That was so understead Man.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on.