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Speaker 1: The Boys YO with your boy Calm Nasty, got my

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Speaker 1: co host, your dad, Nashville's Dad Taylor luwan uh just

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Speaker 1: number one friendly reminder episodes you're about to hear record

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Speaker 1: in the past. The Boys no episodes. This is not

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Speaker 1: a current this is not an up to date deal.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: That's for people thinking Taylor's potting while suspended.

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Speaker 2: That's not true.

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Speaker 1: That's thinking I'm potting while playing football, not even playing football.

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Speaker 2: Had no idea. Why even said that.

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Speaker 1: The Boys on the Saints for a short period of time,

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Speaker 1: the boy ball, it was all good. Injured the old

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Speaker 1: ankle a little bit. I'll be straight here soon, healthy,

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Speaker 1: very very soon. It's been great though. A lot of

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Speaker 1: teams calling Pee wee League team down the road. They

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Speaker 1: need some help coaching this weekend. A lot of traffic,

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Speaker 1: a lot of traffic with the US teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a stupid joke.

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Speaker 1: Big announcement. We have a tailgate this weekend. It's the

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Speaker 1: Tits versus Colts game on Sunday. It'll start at eight

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Speaker 1: twenty seven am. The reason for eight twenty seven to

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Speaker 1: seven Eddie George. It'll last to eleven oh nine am.

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Speaker 1: The nine Steve McNair. This will be on Sunday, September

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Speaker 1: fifteenth at three zero one Woodland Street. Guys, were we

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Speaker 1: are fucking psyched to uh be throwing a tailgate for

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Speaker 1: you guys. The boys will not be there, you know,

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Speaker 1: not smart on our part, so we will not be there.

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Speaker 1: Busting with the Boys will have a tent. Merchandise will

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Speaker 1: be slinging teas everywhere. You want to get your vaybel

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Speaker 1: cut your dick off for his Super Bowl tea. You

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Speaker 1: want to get your your Busting with the Boys Classic ta.

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Speaker 1: You want to get your free Luwan tea because the

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Speaker 1: boy is suspended on some bs. Get your free Lawan t's.

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Speaker 1: So that's on Sunday. We will have There'll be a

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Speaker 1: DJ there, DJ Fast Nasty. There'll be some giveaways. There'll

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Speaker 1: be uh barbecue. We're getting barbecue, crick catered in. Some

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Speaker 1: free drinks. We got some drinks happening. New merch to

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Speaker 1: buy tailgate games. You know you got your corn hole,

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Speaker 1: socialize and have a good time. We'll be We'll be

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Speaker 1: providing food and drink. I know our RSVP count. We

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Speaker 1: So if you're coming or so, you know, everybody will

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Speaker 1: be sacked to see the boys, will be the boys

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Speaker 1: It'll be a fun time, man, It'll be a real

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Speaker 1: We're hoping to get this thing roll and have a

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Speaker 1: in Nashville, whoever visits, everybody's welcome. If they're wearing a

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Speaker 2: The main thing is.

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Speaker 1: If you support the boys and you support busting with

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Speaker 2: So you know, everybody's welcome. Everybody just have.

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Speaker 1: A great time, have fun, be responsible and all this

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Speaker 1: is getting put together by hang ten Hank Tennessee, who

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Speaker 1: does our merchandise. You can go see all their merch

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Speaker 1: and our merchan at hang ten dot com. That is

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Speaker 1: hangtn dot com. Also Regal Realty. They're footing, They're footing everything,

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Speaker 1: they're sponsoring all of it. They're putting a lot of

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Speaker 1: Realty Group. There are one and only our number one

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Speaker 1: Hunter Briley. His personal cell phone six one five six

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Speaker 1: Derek Morgan, guys, Dan Morgan is He was a phenomenal interview.

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Speaker 1: He was a first round pick to the Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 2: The dude is very active. He's a he's he's.

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Speaker 1: Represented by Vayner Media, Vayner Sports. So if you've seen

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Speaker 1: Morgan episode is a banger. You guys are gonna enjoy it. Hey,

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Speaker 1: social media, you know where to find us on the podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, dropping your group chats. Let people know the

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Speaker 1: boys are here to stay. We're gonna have a hell

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Speaker 1: of a year in football season. We're gonna keep dropping

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Speaker 1: more without further ado. Guys, let's hear this Derrey Morgan

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Speaker 1: episode Drop the fucking Hook.

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Speaker 2: Camp is coming up. Huh yeah Wednesday, Yeah, Taylor, sorry, Thursday,

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Speaker 2: next week the twenty fifth. Dude, don't pretend like you are.

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Speaker 2: You were living that life. You were living that life,

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Speaker 2: like right away, it was it's crazy, man, I feel good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'm in shape, but you know how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, triple header, triple header?

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Speaker 2: It's your ship broken? Are we rolling you? Mine's like

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Speaker 2: You know, how's the retired life?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 2: That's them. Don't even blame you. Look at us, bro.

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Speaker 3: It's a white way to spell Derek.

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Speaker 3: We painted everything and then moved.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've been on the retired life for

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Speaker 4: like six months. It's good, bro. I mean it's really

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Speaker 2: It's stress free. Stress listen to he sounds so at peace,

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Speaker 4: I mean we, I mean, we talked throughout the whole year,

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Speaker 4: And nine years and you know, everybody's like, you gotta

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Speaker 3: I'm like, why, Like, I'm straight, you know.

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Speaker 4: I've played out both my deals now, I've done good

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Speaker 4: So I think that it's been a decision longer than

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking that's just our whole year together, like

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Speaker 2: I love Rack Man shut out Brian Rack. Every time

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Speaker 2: I want to buy you guys, Yeah, fellas, every time

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Speaker 2: I want to buy you guys. You guys are laughing

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Speaker 2: I'm not the mindset to even be over there. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: You don't want them.

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Speaker 4: No, But right, we were each other's therapists throughout the

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Speaker 3: So, I mean you helped me too, Bro. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate our conversations outside of football, real estate, all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like a real estate mongol. Now, dude, man,

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Speaker 2: I have a mogle mongol. Whatever. Let's dude, it's sucking.

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Speaker 2: I want. Bus. I bought the bus. If we get divorced,

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Speaker 2: this bus is mine. Yeah, I got will car the

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Speaker 2: like a real estate podcast. Every time I talk to him,

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Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, I got a phone call in fifteen

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Speaker 1: Mike Will's you know, Will we have more money than

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Speaker 1: all of us. Someone was a get Rich Education anything Real.

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Speaker 1: What's his name, Keith, Keith Winehold, Keith Whitehole, something like that.

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Speaker 1: He's tough to listen to because he's got kind of

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Speaker 2: If he ever listens to this, I apologize. So he's

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Speaker 1: But the dude is like he has so much knowledge

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Speaker 1: all like you know, cash flow ratios, real estates, financially

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of like good stuff and they're quick,

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Speaker 1: I'll try to Like I was telling the tailor's joking

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Speaker 2: I was like yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, if I find something, I hear something, you know,

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Speaker 2: And it just makes youre like are we doing this?

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Speaker 2: I've done that. That's that's literally that jobs. Like someone's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: ever thought the step like this, Like, yeah, I have,

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Speaker 4: Those were the conversations that that Rabel used to have

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Speaker 2: Really when I was like coming back, like if you

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Speaker 3: I look over there, like this guy there's nothing that

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Speaker 2: Like Rabel would be like he'd have that little pat

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Speaker 2: run pas. I said, man, still got it, still got it, Lawan.

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Speaker 2: I'm just sitting there like yeah, look yeah, yeah, like

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Speaker 2: you know that just happened. And then it shows Rayble

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Speaker 2: I didn't be like I'm kind of exposed by my

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's brutalized it.

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Speaker 2: So you don't miss it or there ever are there

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Speaker 3: Bro? Do you want me to be honest with you? No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is a fool like do you

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 4: I don't miss it at all, Nothing like this right

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Speaker 4: But it hasn't really hit in because I've been so

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: I miss the guys, like you know, I miss having

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Speaker 4: And so for me it was like, I wake up, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I really don't. I having a chance to have, you know,

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean a long time, like a year. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, this is my last year at my deal,

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Speaker 3: I told my.

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Speaker 4: Agent Aj Vanderchuck, I said, look, man, if it's not

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Speaker 3: And so you know we've had we had talks with teams.

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Speaker 3: Probably not, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So when you can tap into everything you're probably doing

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Speaker 4: Exactly, I've been sprinkling a lot of seeds throughout my career,

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Speaker 2: Right, feel free to plug plug away. Many know, what are.

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Speaker 1: Some of these seeds? You know, I'm always asking what

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Speaker 1: the hell you're up to because I have fomo.

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Speaker 2: I always have following guys. You're talking business? Hey, boys,

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Speaker 2: are we doing this?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What's the deal?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 2: Send me the information? You see the boys fix your name?

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 4: It's a white way that dere So yeah, we got

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Speaker 4: a whole list here. I mean, we're trying to hit

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Speaker 1: Then that's one of the stuff I know about start

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Speaker 1: at I wanted to start at CBD and THC.

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Speaker 2: Damn.

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Speaker 1: That was that's like because because I texted you it

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Speaker 2: So people are like, yo, are you doing t Are

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Speaker 4: So I wouldn't I wouldn't test it. You know, there's

437
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 4: different forms of CBD. There's the full spectrum where you

438
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 4: have a little bit of the THAC. So if you

439
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 4: have less than point zero three percent of TAC, you

440
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 4: know that's full spectrum.

441
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 3: That's full spectrum CBD oil.

442
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 4: Now what they have is there's a called a CBD extract,

443
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 4: so they extract the THAC from it, and you're getting

444
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 4: straight CBD. You could take that right before a drug

445
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 4: test and be fine. Now, what I don't know is

446
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 4: the full spectrum that has the THAC. I don't know

447
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 4: if that's safe for a drug test. I always tell guys, hey, look,

448
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 4: wait till you get your tests. Then you can start

449
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,400
Speaker 4: taking it, you know. And then there's also the ointments

450
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 4: and stuff, and nobody's really done a whole bunch of

451
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 4: research on it.

452
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,160
Speaker 2: It's not to.

453
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 4: Say it's still vague in a sense, but I think

454
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 4: that the NFL just needs to take it off the list.

455
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 4: Like why are we still, you know, getting getting punished

456
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,640
Speaker 4: for taking, you know, cannabis or whatever using cannabis when

457
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,479
Speaker 4: we're like the only lead that gets punished for it,

458
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

459
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, it's backwards to me.

460
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: I've talked to a bunch of people about that kind

461
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 2: of situation, and it seems like the NFL made it

462
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,280
Speaker 2: banned right right away, and like the NBA didn't really

463
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 2: do that. I don't think hockey does that or baseball

464
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 2: does that either. So because they went and did it,

465
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: now hard because it's federally illegal to go back and say, hey,

466
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 2: just kidding, we won't we're not going to test for

467
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: that because you know what an X Y and me

468
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 2: when there's a YEP and there wouldn't be a Bust

469
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: with the Boys podcast with a train going by. Just

470
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: we just fight through adversity all the time. But I

471
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,280
Speaker 2: do think it's like like a liability issue for the NFL,

472
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: fay or like took it off the banned substance list

473
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 2: without it being federally legal, which I which I get you.

474
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Like it's crazy that like vicing in

475
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 2: and percocets and all these things are are so easily

476
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: prescribed for you, Like, oh, you have an issue to

477
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 2: take this, you know, take these pills, say these chemically

478
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 2: made things when we're talking about a plant, like you

479
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: can't take a plant.

480
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: I think it's all about public opinion.

481
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, the NFL will never be ahead of public opinion.

482
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 4: They will not take any risks because it's all about

483
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 4: the shield.

484
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 2: Right.

485
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 4: So now that you see the public opinion towards cannabis

486
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 4: shifting towards more being accepting of it. Yeah, in society,

487
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 4: they're kind of like, ah, yeah, we could talk to

488
00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 4: the NFL PA.

489
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 3: But this is the one thing you got to understand.

490
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 4: The NFL is always positioning itself when you in terms

491
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 4: of CB the CBA and labor talks because they want

492
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 4: to make that an issue and a negotiating point for

493
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 4: the next you know, lockout or c CBA.

494
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 3: Coming up.

495
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 4: And so they're going to be like, hey, look, play

496
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 4: eighteen games and we'll let you you know, smoke cannabis,

497
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

498
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 3: That's how they'll leverage it.

499
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 4: We always exactly, we always look at it as there's

500
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 4: economic and there's non economic issues when you talk about

501
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 4: a CBA agreement, So you can't lump in you know,

502
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 4: something like a medical benefit or cannabis in regards to

503
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 4: playing eighteen games. They just, you know what I mean,

504
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 4: it doesn't equal out. So I think that they're kind

505
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 4: of waiting on that to use that as a negotiate

506
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 4: negotiation tactic, which is kind of crazy, but that's just

507
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 4: what you're dealing with.

508
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: This is business, right. It is kind of like try

509
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: to get anything. If they can get eighteen games and

510
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 2: then say hey, all right, we used some smoke weed

511
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: or whatever, use cannabis, right, what a shitty deal for

512
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: the players. It kind of is like I saw this

513
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: said something that, like I saw jo of you guys. Yeah, hey,

514
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 2: we're gonna take that, right boys, Yeah, he relax. Now,

515
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 2: it's crazy. It's just it's so wild. I saw something

516
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 2: the other day like they're like saying, you do eight

517
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: players play eighteen games, but you said them for two

518
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 2: of them, so still players are only playing sixteen games.

519
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, then you're messing with people start records.

520
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,199
Speaker 2: You're messing with people snap records, which for offense Liane

521
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 2: is kind of all you got. And then it's like

522
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 2: why if you're going to play eighteen, play eighteen, then

523
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 2: put two bi weeks in there. But like, don't dilute

524
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: the products you have because you're because it goes up

525
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,959
Speaker 2: and down a little bit. Now, I don't know all

526
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,199
Speaker 2: the logistics and everything of how like the NFL and

527
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: the views, but I do know that you know those

528
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: rumblings when it came to the anthem and there's rumbling

529
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: like this and this is all these demographics that are

530
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: either happy or upset. But like you do eighteen games,

531
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: things might get a little you know, real dice man,

532
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: it might get it might get too dicey. And if

533
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 2: you if your conversation for that is like, hey, we'll

534
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: take two preseason games off, it's like, yeah, who gives

535
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 2: a ship? Yeah, like it takes one off. Anyway, games

536
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: you play at least more starter, you play three series

537
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: at most sometimes right, and you're done and that's it.

538
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: Take out a preseason game, keep it at sixteen games

539
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: at a bye week.

540
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, But what do you think about? See?

541
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm almost like, when I get into a groove of

542
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: the season, I'm like, yo, let's just do this when

543
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: I can. Sometimes when I come back from a bye week,

544
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: I'm a little more sore. My body is like a

545
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: little more relaxed. Yeah, you know, and I feel like

546
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: reamp myself. I have, but almost I don't. I am

547
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 2: not standing on this. I'm being Devil's advocate, right. I

548
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: don't want to feel like, Yo, no bye week, let's

549
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 2: just rip at sixteen. Yeah you're twenty seven, Yeah, dude,

550
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: it's younger. You turn twenty seven, I'm turning turning. I'm

551
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: turning twenty turning twenty six right now, were you I

552
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 2: think you No, no, no, I'm twenty seven.

553
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 4: I'm turning twenty eight. My father turned twenty eight years six. Yeah, okay,

554
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 4: so were you there?

555
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

556
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 4: You were here where we had a bye week after

557
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 4: Week three? Yes, and then we had thirteen Street.

558
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was a tough That was a tough year.

559
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: That was miserable.

560
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Like imagine playing three games going to

561
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: a bye week.

562
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: That's always the worst. Like this, late those late by

563
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: weeks the best we had. I think the year after that,

564
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: we had like a week ten by week or like

565
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: the latest week you could have, and everyone was like, oh,

566
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: this is love. Yeah, I've always been archy, dude.

567
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: The Skins had Week four last year and I was

568
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: all text boys like, hey man, that that beginning bye

569
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: week or early in the year, that blows.

570
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Tian's got a good one this year. It's like

571
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: the it's in November, okay, so that's all that's I

572
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 2: think the first week in November, it's like a week solid.

573
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: How you feel about the season, bro, I feel good

574
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 2: about it, man. I think the good thing about Arthur

575
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: being the OC is it gives everybody a chance to

576
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 2: be in the same offense. Two years in a row,

577
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: which we never really got. Our defense is always like

578
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: even since I've been here, even when we went two

579
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: and fourteen and three and thirteen, Like, I just feel

580
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 2: like y'all are always so consistent. Yeah, you know, it's

581
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: just about the offense. The ebbs and flows of the

582
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: offense got to be more consistent, and like the offensive line,

583
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 2: we do a better job of protecting. Give Marcus more time.

584
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: Receivers got to get open faster. Like it's all you know,

585
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: it's the team sport. But I really think like of

586
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: all the years, it seems like people are really starting

587
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 2: to buy in quite a bit. Like when I first

588
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: got there in Tilsy fourteen, it was a lot of

589
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 2: old dudes like your tender, like Michael Ruse and Chris

590
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 2: Spencer was in our room and it was kind of

591
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 2: like just kind of did your thing, you know. It's

592
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 2: like everyone was in and out. I didn't really understand

593
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,959
Speaker 2: like the NFL at all. Now I'm starting to get it.

594
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 2: I feel like dudes are working hard, and we got

595
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 2: talent too. We got some young guys with some talent.

596
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: A lot of talent.

597
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think it's all about culture, you know

598
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 4: what It really is. It's like I seen guys I

599
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 4: came in my first year at Jeff Fisher, so it

600
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 4: was Vince Young, Chris Johnson, you know, like older like

601
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 4: Chris Hope, Courtland Finn again, we had a really old team.

602
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 3: That team.

603
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys just kind of did whatever they wanted whatever,

604
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: playing in Miami, lose the game, stay in Miami, don't

605
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 4: even get on the tough Yeah, that's.

606
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

607
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: So like when I got out, I was like, man,

608
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 3: what is going on? This is kind of loose to loose.

609
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I wasn't used to that, and then you know,

610
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 4: he was going Then Munchet came, and then Wizard Hunt.

611
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: Who was next?

612
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: Malarkey Malarkey?

613
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: And then now it was like man, it's just I've

614
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: seen so many different cultures try to be implemented, and

615
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 4: I've been kind of studying that. It's like okay, what

616
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: like I try to take notes on like each you know,

617
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 4: leader or coach that came in. It's like, okay, run

618
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 4: your own business. Yeah, like what can I take away

619
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 4: from this? Like this works here just didn't really quite

620
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: go over so well. Guys bought into this, but this

621
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 4: didn't work, And so I tried to look at each

622
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: coach and kind of learn and take something away from

623
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: each coach that I could apply in, you know, in

624
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: the business world, because I mean it's you're leading the organization,

625
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 4: right men, how would you compare them all since you've

626
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: been under way?

627
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 2: It sounds like you read off five there, Yeah, makeays.

628
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 4: So I think I think the common thread that I

629
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: think worked the best, at least from.

630
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: My perspective, was ownership.

631
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 4: Having the team feel like there's a sense of ownership,

632
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: that you have a say somewhat.

633
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: In what's going on.

634
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: As to say, hey, look, this is more of a

635
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 4: collaborative approach, right, like understanding that there is a hierarchy,

636
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 4: there is authority, understanding those things. But to me to say, hey, look,

637
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: i'm the head coach, I'm going to ask your input.

638
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 4: You're the one on the field sacrificing your body and

639
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 4: doing all the work. Yes, I have a certain vantage point,

640
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: but let's collaborate.

641
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: Let me get your insight. I might not agree with it,

642
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna at least ask you, right.

643
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: So, I think when you kind of start to facilitate

644
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 4: that type of ownership and that collaboration from a team

645
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: get you get even more buying. You know, I think

646
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 4: I think Malarkey did a good job at that. You know,

647
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: I think that you know, we had the leadership councils

648
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 4: and you know, all those different things, and I know

649
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: you probably had your opinions on.

650
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 3: My Larkey, but it's like, you know.

651
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: We we had like a core group of guys, whether

652
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: it be Vets, Starters, you know, the leaders of the team,

653
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: and they kind of we kind of governing the locker

654
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 4: room essentially, you know what I mean, if we've seen

655
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: something going going on, we were able to hold people accountable.

656
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 4: And you know, I think that we still had you

657
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: guys still had it, you know, on the team. But

658
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 4: I think having people feel like, you know, they're part

659
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: of something that they have a piece of ownership in it.

660
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: I think that applies to any any type of business,

661
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 4: you know.

662
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: What I mean, is that something you implement with the

663
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: stuff you have going on.

664
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: I think you gotta like it's a difference between paying

665
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 4: somebody to do a job and like, let's just say

666
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 4: me and you start a business and you should Yeah,

667
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen.

668
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: It's gonna happen.

669
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: So it's like, let's just say we go in, you know,

670
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 4: on a joint venture, and you know, I could pay

671
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 4: you as a consultant or an employee, or I could say, hey, look,

672
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: take some equity and we'll just kind of build this

673
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: thing out. You're gonna put way more time and energy

674
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 4: into it, knowing that you have some skin in the game,

675
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 4: knowing that you're that you have ownership, and that you

676
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: a piece of it. Then as I say, hey, look,

677
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm just going to pay you for nine to five.

678
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

679
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: You can clock and you clock out, but if you

680
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 4: own part of that business, you might work nine to

681
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: five and then go home and work seven to ten,

682
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

683
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: So it's all about.

684
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: Having that sense and trying to facilitate that and stimulate

685
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: that in people to say, hey, look, buy into what

686
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 4: we're doing, you know what I mean. So I think

687
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: that that's something I've always kind of looked at it

688
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: from coaches, and I can apply that in the business

689
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: world as well.

690
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good man.

691
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah how about what? Yeah another trend? What business have

692
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: you implemented that kind of like thought, like, I don't

693
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: know what all all of your stuff that you do.

694
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: I see you're getting a lot more traffic and action

695
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: through Vainner, Vanner Media, Vyner Sports that you're with. Yeah,

696
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they've taught you, how much

697
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: you collaborate with them. I don't know what all businesses

698
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: you're in besides you know, the vegan really the vegan business,

699
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: really in some of the philanthropy work that you do.

700
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: But are you Are you involved in any CBD or

701
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: TSG companies?

702
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 4: No, I'm on like a board called Athletes for Care

703
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: that we kind of advocate for athletes' rights to use

704
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: cannabis products. But I'm not specifically affiliated with any cd

705
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 4: D or cannabis. A lot of people came out the

706
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: woodwork kind of when I started advocating for it.

707
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: And you know this is probably because it's like trendy.

708
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: It's very trendy four years ago.

709
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: You came out with them. Might cause my clean things.

710
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: You have the marijuana leagues on there, and all of

711
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: a sudden, you had a random drug test.

712
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 4: Thought I had many drug tests over the last couple

713
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: of years.

714
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: What did you get random judges for like substance abuse

715
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: or for p D because they can't they can't substance

716
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: abus Once a year.

717
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: It's only once a year, but I had, like I

718
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 4: probably had seven to eight p D tests last year.

719
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 3: Really, I mean, you were right there. He's like Derek

720
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: got it again.

721
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

722
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: But but no, I mean when you say about like

723
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: you mentioned Vayner, Like.

724
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: Hang on a second, you're on that panel, what are

725
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: the benefits of cannabis, Like what do you advocate for?

726
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Like why the TG and cannabis route over the pain

727
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: meds and the medicines that we have now in our league?

728
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: Bro?

729
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 4: Like you guys remember like all the reports of the

730
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: ct and like guys killing themselves, Like when Junior Saya

731
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: committed suicide, that kind of shook me up. I was like, damn,

732
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 4: this guy had everything. He played twenty years row a famer.

733
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: So I'm like, what would it take for him to

734
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 4: kill himself? Like he had it all? And so when

735
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: I started to really look into it, and I'm looking

736
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 4: at CTE and like.

737
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: Like is that going to be me in ten fifteen years?

738
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 4: And so I started looking into other alternatives because there

739
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: weren't no options. It was just like, yeah, you play

740
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: this game and you hope and pray to God that

741
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 4: you're going to be straight in you know, fifteen twenty

742
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 4: years that you could live.

743
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: A normal life. But I was like, nah, I got

744
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: to be more proactive.

745
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: And then eug Monroe, he was playing for the Ravens

746
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 4: at the time, he was at the actual first you

747
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 4: know advocate for NFL in the NFL for cannabis, and

748
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: I seen him on CNN talking about it, and I

749
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 4: reached out to him like, yo, bro, like what's up,

750
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: Like I need to learn about this, and he just

751
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 4: started sharing research with me. Like in Israel they're doing

752
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: they do a lot of research on cannabis. Because it's

753
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: a little bit more open, you can you can.

754
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: Research it more easily.

755
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: And so I started reading stuff, looking at the neural

756
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: protecting qualities of it.

757
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: You know, when you when you.

758
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: Go play football, like you're doing this all day, and

759
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: so you get those subconcussive hits that create inflammation in

760
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: your brain. And so what CBD oil is basically patented

761
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: as is a neural protectant. So if you take CBD oil,

762
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 4: let's just say you take some in theory before you

763
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 4: go and play a game, it would essentially limit the

764
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: amount of inflammation that comes into your brain from you

765
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 4: know different you know, head trauma, So that was the

766
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: big reason for me. I know a lot of guys

767
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: use it for pain inflammation. It's just a healthier alternative.

768
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: It works works naturally with your system as opposed to

769
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 4: opioid or you know, another painkiller.

770
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: It's just not as toxic to your system. So it's

771
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: all about having options, bro.

772
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, CBD is definitely like something that could absolutely help.

773
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: I have a buddy who has a company in Arizona

774
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 2: called True Infusion, and they do like everything organic, like

775
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: the right way to make CBD and stuff like that,

776
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: So they run all that and he all the times like, man,

777
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: I wish I could give you some of the stuff

778
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: to take while you're playing. And it's like if you

779
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 2: go and I took a pain pill, like for the

780
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: next three four days, like I've taken pain pills and

781
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 2: we can all agree, Like you don't feel better then

782
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: when you take a pain pill, like it's you feel amazing.

783
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: There's a reason why it's so addictive. Yeah, exactly, it's

784
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 2: not that you don't have pain. It's like you forgot

785
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: there ever existed the word pain. You know what I'm saying.

786
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: Life's just different now, you know what I'm saying, so

787
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: but like once once you take that, like that chemically

788
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: imbalances your brain and so for the next three four days,

789
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 2: like I'll even notice, like you know, I'm more ear

790
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 2: or I'm more like I'm more short with my wife

791
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: or my patience. I don't have as much patiences my

792
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: kids or whatever. So it's kind of like it's so

793
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 2: easy to see and something like a plant, like that's

794
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: so natural, and I just don't know why there's so

795
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: much resistance on something like even hemp. Like if you

796
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: started growing and producing hemp, I've said this before in

797
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: this podcast, Like there's one hundred thousand products that you

798
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: could replace with hemp, including plastic, which is like like

799
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: truly affecting our ecosystem, our oceans and everything to an

800
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: extent that it's not going to be us. And that's

801
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: like human means are naturally selfish. Human beings are where

802
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: we come from caveman times. We haven't involved enough. We're

803
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: so focused on how do we eat, how do we reproduce,

804
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: and how do we get ours? You know, and the

805
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: thing we need to start focusing on is like it's

806
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: not going to be our kids, or it means going

807
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: to be our kids kids you know, it says our

808
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: grandkids are great grandkids that are going to feel the

809
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: effects of what we're doing now. And something as simple

810
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: as letting an athlete it takes something like CBD would

811
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: be so beneficial because you don't have those things, like

812
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: if you really were focused on like, let's focus on

813
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: CT being an issue, Like you don't want brain issue

814
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: to have like outfits linman defensive linemen, those like little

815
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: tiny hits we call them sub subconcussion, sub subconcussive hits

816
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 2: like those those are the things that add up over time,

817
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 2: and those are things you don't feel. But I noticed

818
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: myself like even in November December, late in the season,

819
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: I'll be home and I'll be having my buddies will

820
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 2: come see me, and they'll be talking to me after games.

821
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm not even I can't even really form send it.

822
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: I can talk, I can't talk, but like I'm like,

823
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: I'm not as like, uh, I'm not as sharp, I'm

824
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: not as like you know what I'm saying. So that's

825
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: definitely something that could be. Yeah, we should be focused on.

826
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: Years down the road, like probably in the near future,

827
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: ten fifteen years whatever, we're going to look back at

828
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: this time and kind of like laugh at the way

829
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 1: we're the NFL and we all tried to go after hey,

830
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: replacing this with this and be like, yeah, what were

831
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: we thinking taking all this stuff back then? We kind

832
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: of know it now, yeah, you know intuitably we know

833
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: that now, but we're definitely going to look back. One man,

834
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe it took this long for this stuff

835
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: to kind of pass.

836
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: Or it's the same thing as like we look at

837
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: we look at like thirty years ago or one hundred

838
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: years ago, and doctors like there's a there's a bell

839
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: Mead plantation down the road and they have like it's

840
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: a really cool place to go check out. I went

841
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 2: and saw it's like a museum. And this woman had asthma. Well,

842
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: whenever the eighteen hundred or whatever that was around, the

843
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: prescribed her to smoke cigarettes and climb at high altitudes

844
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: because the lung is sort of got because the lung

845
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: was viewed as a muscle and not like you know

846
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

847
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 3: So it's like and you look.

848
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: At it, you're like, what idiots? Yeah, but in one

849
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: hundred years they look at us going, yo, what idiots. Well,

850
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: it's so like technology is moving so fast, which allows

851
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: us modern medicine to also move equally as fast. So

852
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: the doctors that go to school in the eighties and

853
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: doctors their identity is one hundred percent what they know,

854
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: you know. So so if you go if you have

855
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: a doctor that went to school, graduated in eighty two

856
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: and didn't do anything else, his shit's so outdated and

857
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 2: it's not fair. And if you say, well, a doctor

858
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: told me to do this, doctors can be idiots too,

859
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, unless you stay on top

860
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: of everything and go towards like hey, like we got

861
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: to I had to learn and progress and grow, Like

862
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: it's it's so easy to have a PhD.

863
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean, we deal with that a little bit in

864
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: the training that I was just about to say that

865
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: the teams you're on the training rooms, you're kind of

866
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: dated to what they know, and guys like yourself, like,

867
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: I've learned a lot from you over just being with

868
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: you for a year, and yeah, and you just kind

869
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: of you kind of realize the education you try and

870
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: get outside of the facility and the stuff you read

871
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: into or listen whether it's a podcast or any of

872
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: that information out there and you start to learn and

873
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: question a few things or try to challenge not even

874
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: not necessarily challenge it, or you realize your innocent self

875
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: bringing it up in that environment and when they kind

876
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: of just like laugh at you or or you know,

877
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: just frown upon it or belittle it, and you're just like, man,

878
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: what you know, I've read this is actually has some

879
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: really beneficial stuff and a lot of these a lot

880
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: of a lot of trainers or doctors anybody, they need

881
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: a lot of data and research throughout time to kind

882
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: of prove that instead of being like being Greenfield somebody

883
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: who experiments on himselves all the time and can give

884
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: you data and some stuff to try out and go

885
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: after and you're kind of like, yo, I'm going to

886
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: do this too. They're kind of like, nah, we're not

887
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: there yet, or that doesn't make sense because of what

888
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: I was taught back in you know, the nineties.

889
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they it's funny. I think a few years ago

890
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: my nickname around the facility was doctor Morgan, and I

891
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 4: definitely see that it wasn't in a positive way like

892
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 4: it was the it was because you know, we talk

893
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 4: about being in the training room, the outdated you know,

894
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: methodologies and the approach to treating injuries. And you know,

895
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 4: if you're a rookie, fringe free agent type of.

896
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: Guy, you don't necessarily have time to waste.

897
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: You know, I sing your knee, you need something that

898
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: might has to expedite that train that that that healing.

899
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 3: And so you know, I do a lot of.

900
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: Things that are unorthodox, that are necessarily outside of the

901
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 4: the realm of expertise of these trainers. So, like you said,

902
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 4: they don't necessarily understand it. But I was telling guys like, look,

903
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 4: every time you get injured, get a second opinion. Absolutely

904
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: has down, get a second opinion. You can't rely on

905
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 4: somebody because it's a conflict of ventures. The way the

906
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: training room is set up in the NFL, it's just

907
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 4: a conflict of interest.

908
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: Bro.

909
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 4: Like I've seen guys, you know, get screwed over because

910
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: of politics and just different you know, things that weren't

911
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: necessarily related to the injury.

912
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 3: It was just like political stuff. It wasn't it was

913
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: bad advice.

914
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not naming names, but I just think

915
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 4: that the more innovative you can be when it comes

916
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: to your health, and the more flexible you can be,

917
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 4: because we all know, like the rate of information is

918
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: like doubling at like an exponential rate because there's so

919
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 4: much information out there. Yes, so like everything's constantly changing,

920
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 4: and so if you're still relying on stuff from like

921
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty two or even two three years ago, you're outdated.

922
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 2: Right, you're not continuing that knowledge. You an education, bro.

923
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: But the play Devil's Advocate, like those guys, it's not

924
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: that they want to. It's not that anybody tries to

925
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: necessarily mess you over. It's just that everyone kind of

926
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: works under the what they the owners like their job

927
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: is to get the product on the field as fast

928
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: as possible from what they know, and it's not and

929
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: when the head coach or the owner anybody comes in

930
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: your office and they're checking on a player, like hey,

931
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: where's so and so at, Like where are we at

932
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: with him? And in their mind they're just going over

933
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 1: anything they've ever went with you, like, yeah, we should

934
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: probably have him ready in a week, knowing in his

935
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: mind maybe it's two weeks, but they don't want to

936
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: hear that right now. So I'm going to say a week,

937
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to go to that athlete and

938
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, hey, you know, we need to

939
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: get a roll on how you feel and how that

940
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: they don't hear the right response, they can filter how

941
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: they won you know, either hey, you know he they're

942
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: either battling for you or it's like, you know, he's

943
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: just not necessarily you know, he's not pushing the way

944
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: we're trying to push. You can get painted different ways,

945
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: they can pay it different ways. But they have a

946
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: job to try to you know, they have to go

947
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: home too.

948
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 3: It's a position for them to be in.

949
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 4: It's not fair, right, And we talk about that at

950
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 4: the PA is like, can you have you know, a

951
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: built in second opinion or and somebody who's not affiliated

952
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 4: with the team in essentially come in and administer rehab

953
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 4: and second opinions and advice because I get it, bro, Like,

954
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: I get there in a mess up position. You know

955
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, at the end of the day, who

956
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 4: really suffers though? It's the player, right, you know, we're

957
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 4: at the you know, we're at the you know, discretion

958
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: of what they tell us. And if you're a young guy,

959
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 4: you know you're gonna believe mostly of what everybody tells you.

960
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: And so you know, it is what it is. I

961
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: know We can't get too deep.

962
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: On that on here, but I definitely think that the

963
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: more guys can educate themselves and look at to like,

964
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: you know, you're a vet bro, like, so you're setting

965
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 4: an example for somebody coming into the to the league.

966
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: Now.

967
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 4: So it's like if I come in and I'm a rookie,

968
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 4: I'm looking at te la Wan Okay, I see he

969
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 4: has a routine. You know, he has an approch to

970
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 4: how he maintains his health, and yes, he's a professional

971
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 4: about it. So I think the more that we can

972
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: model that and you can model that, the better and

973
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 4: just kind of being that sound board for guys and

974
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 4: that voice of reason, because when you're coming in as

975
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: a rookie and you're not like a high draft pick.

976
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 2: Bro, You're just you're kind of on your own, you're

977
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: going I've never I've never had an issue with like

978
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: Todd Tursl. He's the head trainer of the Titans. He's

979
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: always been so good to me, so good to me

980
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 2: in so many ways. And when we talk about education,

981
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: like the difficult thing about education, especially with modern medicine,

982
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: is that there's so much information out there, but it's

983
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: not just about this is the way. It's this is

984
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: the way, and there's another one saying no, that's the way,

985
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: and then there's one that's more in the middle. There's

986
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: so many different ways to process information and so many

987
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: different opinions that when you go and you get these things.

988
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: If we're talking about an a cl all these things,

989
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: there's positives and negatives to all that stuff. And it's

990
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: people's jobs as are who are in that position, whether

991
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: you be a doctor or a trainer, a physical therapist,

992
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: you it's your job to go and not only read

993
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: the stuff that you agree with, but read the stuff

994
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 2: you don't agree with as well. So you have an

995
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: opportunity for your own self to play devil's advocate and

996
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: keep you in check for the stuff that you know

997
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 2: you might have felt, well that's ridiculous before. Well it's

998
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 2: a classic term. Don't knock and seel. You try it,

999
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 2: You got it. You got to give those things a shot.

1000
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: I like Ben Greenfield so much because he does do

1001
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: those things. He'll he'll hack his sana to sort of

1002
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: over two her degrees and he'll do yoga in it

1003
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: for ninety minutes, you know, and just to see what

1004
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: that's like. He'll go through different recovery routines and check

1005
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: stuff out, but he puts on his body. But a

1006
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: big thing people to know is need to know as well,

1007
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: is not every human being the same. It's not like

1008
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: we're all four trucks and manufacturing in the same place.

1009
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: My GenEx are different than nears are different the nears.

1010
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: Some things are gonna work better for me than they

1011
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: are for you. Some guys love the static stretch, you know,

1012
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 2: and then but there's things that says sag stretching shuts

1013
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: out for CNS, which is your central nervous system. So

1014
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: but some guys, I've seen dudes in our locker room

1015
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: go and be like literally static stretching before games turns,

1016
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 2: before we go out. They say, like, it's an hour

1017
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: and a half until it's right. But then I see

1018
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: those guys killing it. He don't, Yeah, you see, I

1019
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: see those guys killing it. So it's like it's tough.

1020
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: But I will say, you're a lot. You're more than

1021
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: welcome to talk about whatever you want because like you

1022
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: should never there should never be there can always be

1023
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: pushback for having an opinion, but like as long as

1024
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 2: it's productive, like what you're all the things you're saying

1025
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: is productive. I there's something you don't agree with, then

1026
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 2: you should never feel bad. I. Yeah, I'm employed by

1027
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: the Titans. I think the Titans do an amazing job.

1028
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: They do a great job. You yourself, you're you can

1029
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,479
Speaker 2: say whatever you want and I'm I will say whatever

1030
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: I want to, you know, because it's like, that's what

1031
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 2: the whole point of having you know, your own production

1032
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: of things right now, it's it's not hey, Derek Morgan

1033
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: said this. Derek Morgan said that. It's like, oh, Derek

1034
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 2: Morgan actually said this, right, these are his words. Right.

1035
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: You know what I enjoyed with Todd is and you

1036
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: you probably you probably I would assume you probably had

1037
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: the same relationship with them. But like when Todd he

1038
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: would know that I read or like do a lot

1039
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: of stuff to where I'm legitimately asking questions or if

1040
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: I take something or bring it in and he's like, yeah,

1041
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: if you.

1042
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: Think that's better, go ahead and do that.

1043
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: Like guys like working with you, I think that's where

1044
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: you get that's where you get progress. And you said

1045
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: it earlier, like guys coming into the league in the league,

1046
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: young cats like always educating yourself because again, like you

1047
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: are your own business no matter what. And if you

1048
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: get messed over and you kind of go down that path,

1049
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: like it's just as much on you as it is

1050
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: you wanting to point a finger at like, oh, you know,

1051
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: I got messed over this way. Like if you find

1052
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: the right vest, ask questions too, and you find the

1053
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: knowledge yourself and try to constantly educate, you can kind

1054
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: of stay on top or or try and be a

1055
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: little ahead of the game to where you know you.

1056
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: Go about it the right way. I see a little,

1057
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: I see a little.

1058
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: Your teeth look good, man.

1059
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: Do you even have to brush your teeth anymore? They just

1060
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 2: stay well all the time. No, I do, because my

1061
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 2: boy just choose gum now to I don't have to

1062
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: he puts in a cup at night. Well, man, I

1063
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: actually have to floorge Washington dentures.

1064
00:46:59,480 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: Bro.

1065
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: I have to floss now too. I used to not

1066
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: have to floss just because you didn't flost before. It's

1067
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: what you're saying. Well, you know if that's true.

1068
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: But you know, people when they look at me, they

1069
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: didn't know if they should kick a field goal or

1070
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: just you know, few me a toothbrush.

1071
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 2: Hey, cop, what do you got going on under the hood.

1072
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: What's up with the meat cleavers? Bro?

1073
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 3: Kind of miss him though?

1074
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 2: What's that you said? You kind of miss him?

1075
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: You go back on my I G page and you know,

1076
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: find some old photos smile at.

1077
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: Him, laugh like, look, I didn't know. I didn't know

1078
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: there was an issue before. But now that I see this,

1079
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, there was definite an issue before.

1080
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's clearly something on.

1081
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: My personality is I guess right, guys didn't even know it.

1082
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: Look at that, My.

1083
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: Personality was so solid that you guys didn't really know

1084
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: how bad my teeth were.

1085
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, that's true. That's true.

1086
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: Kind of like straight hand, you know, Like, I mean,

1087
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 4: he has the gap, but it's like his personality.

1088
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: He fixed his gap. He fixed it, and then he

1089
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: decided he's like this ain't me and he actually went

1090
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: back and reap and fixed it.

1091
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: He recapped, he recat I told when I was going,

1092
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 1: when they were about to do everything, I was like, hey, guys,

1093
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: if I don't like this, can we shave.

1094
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: Everything back to what it used to be? And like

1095
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, no problem that. He's like can't

1096
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: that's a lie? What?

1097
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 3: No?

1098
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: Well, when they put him in that you kind of bite,

1099
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: and he shaved stuff perfectly anyway.

1100
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, you set me a picture of

1101
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 2: your teeth when they.

1102
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: Filed the things down.

1103
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: What I'm saying here, my two year old's teeth with

1104
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: the same size as your teeth when they filed them down.

1105
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: So I'm saying she had these little I'm saying like,

1106
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: if you like, hey, I want to go back to

1107
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, it's just too late now, Like your

1108
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: teeth are perfect.

1109
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: It's a lifetime decision.

1110
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lifetime save these right here.

1111
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: If I wasn't, if I didn't like it, he'd be

1112
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: able to shave these to look like my old ones.

1113
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, they just you know, they did just give

1114
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: you some mean be like chewing this for half an hour, dude,

1115
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: get your teeth back.

1116
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: Yeah you're good, You're good to go.

1117
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 2: He didn't know what else we got, man. Oh yeah,

1118
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: Vaynter Sports. You talk about Vayner Sports.

1119
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I take him in doses. Love Gary Vee.

1120
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: But obviously he's all over the place. Yeah, talk a

1121
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,479
Speaker 1: little bit about vander Sports and going up there Vanner Media.

1122
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: I want to get my ass up there and be

1123
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: in that office.

1124
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: Sometime. I remember this off season we were supposed to

1125
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: go together. You kind of win on your own. It's cool.

1126
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 3: I don't I don't quite remember that.

1127
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you have CTE, but we don't want to

1128
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: jump over that.

1129
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 3: Look, bro.

1130
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 4: Like when I came in, I had c aa are

1131
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 4: you a c I want to see shoot on him?

1132
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: Do it? Let's I took listen litten do it.

1133
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 4: When I came in, like not even before I came in,

1134
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: I was doing all my agent interviews and they're like, hey, Derek,

1135
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 4: what's your favorite show.

1136
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: I'm like The Office, The Office, we can get you

1137
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 3: on that show. I'm like, what great.

1138
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 4: They're showing me the presentation there guys there, I'm looking

1139
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 4: at Lebron James and Peyton Manning and Drew.

1140
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: Bey, just like yeah, I could do that.

1141
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 4: And then when I got drafted, I was like, hey,

1142
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: remember about that.

1143
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: Remember The Office? You said you can get me on.

1144
00:49:58,600 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 3: The show right off?

1145
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 4: You know, Steve kr You're like, oh, yeah, we'll look

1146
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 4: into it. Never heard anything from m Damn. And it

1147
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 4: was like they had set my expectations so high of

1148
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 4: what an agency was supposed to deliver, and they just

1149
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: I mean, bro, I got nothing, and it was almost like, yeah.

1150
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 3: You're in a bad market, You're in Nashville. But I'm like, look, bro,

1151
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 3: like I was the first round pick. Can I at

1152
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: least get a car deal, like something, something local?

1153
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: And you know, it was more.

1154
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: So like a trickle down, like they had the headliners,

1155
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: like the guys that just mentioned the Peyton Manning's at

1156
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: the time. Lebron was with them, like everybody you could

1157
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 4: think of they have, and so it's like it's almost

1158
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 4: like when something comes to them, those.

1159
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: Guys get it first, and you get you get what's left.

1160
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 2: And get that trickle down.

1161
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: Hey, we ain't got nothing for you, man, Yeah we

1162
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: got a great value add you could possibly do for

1163
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: ro Mark.

1164
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: Like and and and and So I was with them

1165
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: for like forty two minute Mark.

1166
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 3: I was with them for.

1167
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 4: About maybe five years, right, So the first year, you know,

1168
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 4: I was talking to him and then they just like

1169
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 4: went ghosts. I didn't hear from I didn't talk to

1170
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 4: my agent, who's ragent. You mean, put put names out if.

1171
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 2: You want to, you can, you said whatever, And then

1172
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: if you're driving home and you're like check it out,

1173
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to put on.

1174
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day I came into

1175
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: the league. We talked and about it was like a

1176
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 4: three year hiatus where I didn't hear anything from my

1177
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: agent three years, like three years. And then coming around

1178
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: on my contract year, Hey, Derrick, how's it going.

1179
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: So you're not even hearing check You're not even getting

1180
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: check ins or anything.

1181
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about marketing, adverthing.

1182
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about Hello, what's up, bro? Like nada.

1183
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: So it comes around to my contract year and I

1184
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: started getting those texts, what's up, d how you doing man?

1185
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 3: Just checking in? And I'm like, oh, it's contract time.

1186
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 3: I get it.

1187
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 4: And so I fired them before my contract and I

1188
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 4: went out and got somebody else and for a reduced

1189
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: straight you know, because I didn't I didn't agree with

1190
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: the three percent they weren't delivering to get that. So

1191
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: I get negotiating on my terms with another agency, same thing,

1192
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: over promised, under delivered. And my whole thing was They're like,

1193
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: look there, we got this McDonald's deal for you got

1194
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 4: the subway deal coach PEPSI, And I was like, look.

1195
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 2: Bro, the next Jared.

1196
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I was.

1197
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: Let's let's not be the next I didn't think that

1198
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: joke all the way through.

1199
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: Were listen, all right?

1200
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 4: So moving forward anyway, I told them, I said, look,

1201
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 4: I can't endorse something that I wouldn't give my kids.

1202
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 4: So I wouldn't give my kids McDonald's, so I can't.

1203
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 4: I can't endorse this.

1204
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 3: So it was my values.

1205
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 4: I was kind of like pulling that and they were

1206
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: just kind of like, we got nothing for you. So

1207
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 4: I fired them, damn son. And so two years ago,

1208
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 4: what was that second agency?

1209
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 3: Vanguard?

1210
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,760
Speaker 2: Vanguard? Yeah, Vanguard Vanguard like the index funds.

1211
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't them though, that was just.

1212
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: A different one, so like it but different.

1213
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't know if it was like an

1214
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: umbrella like Vanguard is like we're going to branch off

1215
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: me an agency now too.

1216
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 3: I mean they could if they wanted to.

1217
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: But so anyway, I got connected to Vander Sports from

1218
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: one of my friends in college and they was like, hey,

1219
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 4: have you heard of Gary Vaynerchuk And I was like who?

1220
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 3: And so I started googling.

1221
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 4: Them and you know, taking them in doses and yeah,

1222
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 4: she just borked into the bike.

1223
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: That's all right, can't smell it from here. All right, Well,

1224
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: now you're getting us sick.

1225
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 3: I don't, look, it's just the alismologies.

1226
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 4: So anyway, I got in touch with Vandersports, and I

1227
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 4: mean bro like their business, rollerdecks and their network insane.

1228
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 4: They weren't approaching the sports agent you know, industry from

1229
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 4: same perspective as everybody else, right, they were approaching representing

1230
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 4: athletes from more of a business mindset. And it's like, hey, look,

1231
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 4: we have this whole rolodex of companies that we work with.

1232
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 3: Let's leverage that.

1233
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 4: Not everybody's going to be a Gatorade ad or a

1234
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 4: Pepsi ad, you know, those huge ads.

1235
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: But we do have.

1236
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 4: Something like an accounting service who likes the service, entrepreneurs

1237
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 4: that want to be affiliated with an NFL guy. Oh

1238
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 4: and by the way, they'll pay you fifty racks.

1239
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, well that makes sense to me.

1240
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: I like what they're doing, where do I sign exactly?

1241
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 4: So I think what they did and I think what

1242
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 4: they're doing is they're evolving and they're kind of challenging

1243
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 4: the status quo of what an agent looks like instead

1244
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 4: of you know, getting collecting a check and kind of

1245
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: seeing your next contract.

1246
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1247
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 4: I went to Vanger and They had no incentive from

1248
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 4: my contract because I was still with my old agent,

1249
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 4: so they were just basically getting paid on what they

1250
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 4: brought to the table. And you know, through the last

1251
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: two years, I've been able to kind of reach out

1252
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 4: to them, but hey, do you have a connection with

1253
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 4: this guy? And AJ be like hey one second, and

1254
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 4: literally within you know, twenty four hours, he would have

1255
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: me connected to that person. So their network were so

1256
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: strong that I was able to tap into that and

1257
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 4: leverage it to say, hey, look this is what this

1258
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 4: is the things that I'm focused on. Can you help

1259
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: me get in contact with this person or set up

1260
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 4: a meeting or a call.

1261
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: And they were able to do that.

1262
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 4: And on the marketing side, I mean they just looked

1263
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 4: into their role indecks of companies and to say, hey,

1264
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 4: look we have this company here, they want to work

1265
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 4: with you, They're willing to pay or get you an

1266
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 4: equity deal and whatnot. And so that's the other thing

1267
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 4: that we started to look at is how can we

1268
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 4: get equity out of companies instead of just getting compensation.

1269
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 4: So like the Beyond Meat deal that me and my

1270
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 4: wife are part of, like we were brand ambassadors, but

1271
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 4: we didn't take any money up front. We just took

1272
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: equity and so you know, I got to thank my

1273
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,439
Speaker 4: wife for negotiating that deal.

1274
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: But it's almost like having the long term in mind

1275
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: where you don't have to take the quick cash, right.

1276
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 4: And it's like I could have took fifty thousand dollars

1277
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 4: from Beyond Meat, but I took thirty thousand dollars worth

1278
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 4: of equal And I mean.

1279
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 3: You see what Beyond Me is doing right now.

1280
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, So it's like having that mindset and that that

1281
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 4: approach to kind of say.

1282
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: Look, let's not let's think more long term on things.

1283
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 4: And vain Or Sports has really done a great job

1284
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 4: of helping me approach the business, you know, side of

1285
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 4: things from that from that vantage.

1286
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: Point, and athletes are becoming more aware of theirselves as

1287
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 1: a business more than just.

1288
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: A football player.

1289
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Like guys that in our circles all the time are

1290
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: getting into different endeavors for different things all the time,

1291
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: like you yourself, Taylor Is. I try to but it's

1292
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: pretty dope, man, talk about talk about your wife and

1293
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: the whole, the whole beyond not even beyond me, but

1294
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: the whole vegan stuff. I'm a big carnivore. Talk about that. Man,

1295
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: you talk about how big, how much of a stud

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Speaker 1: your wife has has been in this whole process.

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Speaker 3: Have you have you have you guys ever tasted my

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00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 3: wife's food?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've tasted something like when guys sometimes you guys

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Speaker 1: tell me about her.

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Speaker 2: She made Thekwan's food.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, said okay, Google, so you kind of see

1303
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 4: how she cooks, right, So the types of food that

1304
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 4: she cooks doesn't make you want to feel like you're compromising.

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00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 4: Right when I think vegan, I was like, man, I

1306
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 4: gotta eat none but vegetables. Like we literally tried to

1307
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 4: go vegan in twenty fifteen and my wife went to

1308
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 4: Whole Foods and she bought a whole bunch of vegetables

1309
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 4: and we just came home and dumped it on the

1310
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 4: counter and were like, what the hell do.

1311
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Speaker 3: We do with this?

1312
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: Right?

1313
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 4: And we lasted like seven days and we failed, and

1314
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 4: we you know this. Back around twenty seventeen, I was

1315
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 4: looking for different ways to enhance my recovery because I

1316
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 4: kept hearing that it cut down inflammation. And I was

1317
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 4: consulting with this nutrition that she kept sending me research

1318
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 4: and research, and I kept looking it up and I'm like, shoot,

1319
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna try this off season. It's like March at

1320
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 4: this time, let's try it. So I slowly started to

1321
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 4: cut out red meat, I cut out poultry, eggs, and

1322
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 4: then the last thing to go was dairy. And so

1323
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 4: what I realized was what I started to notice was

1324
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 4: every time I ate something that didn't have animal products

1325
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 4: in it, I felt like I was I didn't have

1326
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 4: that slump you know, when you eat something you kind

1327
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 4: of your body kind of takes a little bit to

1328
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 4: get back going, because that's your body breaking down whatever

1329
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 4: you put into your stomach. So it's creating, it's using

1330
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 4: a lot of energy to.

1331
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: Break down whatever you eat.

1332
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 4: So when you eat more of a plant based diet,

1333
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 4: it's easier on your system to process that and digest it,

1334
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 4: so you can use those that energy for other systems

1335
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 4: in your body.

1336
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: And so for me, that was another thing I looked at.

1337
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 4: I have hereditary high blood pressure, and so I was

1338
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 4: twenty one years old with high blood pressure as a

1339
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 4: Division one athlete, Like that didn't make sense to me.

1340
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 3: And so when I got my blood panels back, that

1341
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 3: was back the perfect you know, the levels were amazing, So.

1342
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: That dropped my sea reactive protein, which is your inflammation drop,

1343
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 4: and then just my overall energy.

1344
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: Bro, Like, I felt great. Like the first year I

1345
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: went through.

1346
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 4: It was twenty seventeen and we're in training camp and

1347
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 4: you know, like day nine ten training camp, you start

1348
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 4: to get grind, feel everything. And I was still waking

1349
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: up like I'm straight, like I'm a little sore, but

1350
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 4: I'm good, you know what I mean. This is like

1351
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 4: year seven at the time, and I was feeling really good.

1352
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 4: I was scared because the whole, the whole myth is

1353
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: what the protein, right, the protein protein protein?

1354
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 3: How can you you know, how's that gonna affect you?

1355
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: And so when I came back to training camp, I

1356
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 4: still felt strong, I still felt good, and my weight

1357
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 4: was still pretty sustainable. I was like two sixty two,

1358
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: but my body fat a drop, you know, my body

1359
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 4: just kind of leaned out.

1360
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Speaker 3: So I'm a big believer in it.

1361
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Speaker 2: Bro.

1362
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Speaker 4: I tell people, look, if you can do maybe like

1363
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 4: one meal a day that's that doesn't have meat, then

1364
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 4: you're you're on the right track. We don't look at

1365
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 4: it from like a judgemental standpoint, because we get judged, bro,

1366
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 4: Like vegans would judge us for wearing leather shoes.

1367
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, like I'm not on that now,

1368
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1369
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, it'll get kind of crazy. That shit will

1370
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 2: get kind of out of hand.

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Speaker 3: Dude.

1372
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: Like if you're like, first off, what other people do

1373
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: is none of your business, right number one, So fuck

1374
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: off you. I just hate it when people are like

1375
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm doing this, so everybody should do this. It's like, listen, like,

1376
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm not a vegan. Do I think there's a place

1377
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 2: for this world. Absolutely? If someone's a vegan and I'm not,

1378
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: does it piss me off? Absolutely?

1379
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: Not right?

1380
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: You know, but I think, like, you know, I think

1381
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: people are trying to find these crazy like health like

1382
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: go in and I'm gonna be vegan now, but they

1383
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: don't understand that what that means. You can be vegan

1384
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 2: and be unhealthy. You know what I'm saying. You can.

1385
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 2: You can be vegan being healthy. And it's like sometimes

1386
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: case starting don't put don't eat process me like grass fed,

1387
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 2: take care, take care of your body, Yeah, take your

1388
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: body in the right way is like, don't things things

1389
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 2: that are natural? Look at the nutrition nutrition facts in

1390
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: the back of the thing. And if there's words you

1391
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 2: can't pronounce probably not, you know what I'm saying, like

1392
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: and that that's a great way to start. You'll start

1393
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: to feel the energy. It need a lot of green

1394
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: screens that you can that can help you have those fats.

1395
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: People are so scared of the word fats. They don't

1396
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: want to be fat. When fats help exactly, Fat's helpier.

1397
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: Like if you like, if you people want to do

1398
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: a Kido diet, those types of things. Dairy, Yeah, I

1399
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: cut out dairy and it feels amazing. Right Cheese Now,

1400
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: if you look at cheese when it's melted, like that's

1401
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 2: in your body, that's gonna you're gonna feel sluggish. But

1402
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 2: and it's if people are going to do vegan, Like

1403
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: I've seen people that have gone vegan and they look amazing.

1404
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: It looks so healthy, they look great, their you know,

1405
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: their body mass is still there and they have their

1406
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: high functioning. I've seen other people go vegan and maybe

1407
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 2: they're doing something different or whatever, but they don't look great.

1408
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: They almost look sickly at times. And so it's important.

1409
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 2: Just like people want to quick fix for everything that's

1410
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Everyone wants to look at it and see

1411
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: an article and be like that's it. That's what I'm

1412
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: going to do. In reality. It's like you have to

1413
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: educate yourself on some stuff. You're in a documentary coming out,

1414
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: So sorry, yeah, it's all right, loops of daisies, you

1415
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: have just a bit over rant, but okay, anyway, long

1416
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: story show, Like there's a lot of things you need

1417
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: to be afraid of, like not afraid of. There's a

1418
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: lot of things you need to not fear because of

1419
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: fear propaganda like that. What's that documentary that came out

1420
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: with the with the What the Health? What the Health?

1421
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: Like a lot of that I I I've I haven't

1422
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: seen that, but I've seen a doctor's reaction to it

1423
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: and stuff. And there's a lot of things in there

1424
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: are good. Like there's when you're talking about animal agriculture,

1425
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: Like that's scary enough as it is that that is

1426
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 2: bad for the environment. You don't have to fluff it

1427
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 2: up or make it worse to cause like a fear propaganda.

1428
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: Like there are things, like we've talked about on this podcast,

1429
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: you can do a lot to help this world right

1430
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: now taking care of animals and doing it the right

1431
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: way and using every bit of the animal Like those

1432
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 2: are good ways for people that want to eat me.

1433
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: But it's it's like it's all about making choices and

1434
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: doing your and doing your you know, your homework, take

1435
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: your get your blood done, see what you're deficient in

1436
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: and work on those things, and it's you're going to

1437
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 2: feel better. But it's not just a flip of the

1438
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 2: switch and it's over.

1439
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: It's a process.

1440
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're part of a documentary coming out, aren't you.

1441
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1442
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: I saw you, I saw you boost. That's what's it

1443
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: called called Game Changers? Is it going to change the game?

1444
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 3: I think you will.

1445
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 2: Really.

1446
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1447
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: I saw Arnold Schwarzenegger is in it, so I kind

1448
01:02:58,520 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: of piqued my attention.

1449
01:02:59,480 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 3: Damn.

1450
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 4: It's just about plant based athletes, right, you know, it's

1451
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 4: everybody from weightlifters to people who run track, football players,

1452
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 4: Lewis Hamilton, the race car driver. Yeah, I think was

1453
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 4: Venus Williamson or Serena Williams. I think she may be

1454
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 4: a part of it.

1455
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, when's that dropping September? Yeah, it's pretty dope,

1456
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 3: you know. James Cameron, Yeah, Titanic Okay.

1457
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly a producer on it, and so yeah, it

1458
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 4: seems to be a game here.

1459
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 2: Just let me get on this. Yeah, I'm the plant

1460
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: based right now. Yeah, change back everything I just said.

1461
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that thing. James CAMRA's doing it. Yeah,

1462
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 2: I lovely. Let's do this thing.

1463
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: Fact for people curious about this being vegan or vegan

1464
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: diet and kind of the way you go about nutrition,

1465
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: the nutrients that you don't necessarily get in a vegan diet,

1466
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: I want to know how you get this stuff in

1467
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: your body, whether it be vitamin B. You've heard all

1468
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, Vitamin B, vitamin B twelve, vitamin

1469
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: the iodine, iron, calcium, and zinc.

1470
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 2: Like, how do you do you supplement that? Yeah? You

1471
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 2: supplement that stuff.

1472
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 4: And I think that if you take a you know,

1473
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 4: a big enough sample from the general population, I think

1474
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 4: we're all deficient in those Yeah, because if you look

1475
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 4: at it out of mean B twelve we used to

1476
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 4: get that from the soil, right, but now the soil

1477
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 4: has been so overly farmed and it's so nutrient depleted

1478
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 4: that we don't even get B twelve from the soil.

1479
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: No more so, I think that we would all.

1480
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 4: Be deficient in B twelve if we did, you know,

1481
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,439
Speaker 4: blood panels and on a regular diet. So I think

1482
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 4: that you know, understanding what could be the deficiencies with

1483
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 4: the vegan diet and supplementing. I mean there might be

1484
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 4: days where you know, I don't have all my macros

1485
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 4: in a in a meal, correct, And I'll just drink

1486
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: a protein shake bro like forty grands of protein P protein, and.

1487
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: I'll get my amino acid profile.

1488
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: And so it's just I think people kind of get

1489
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 4: overworked up about the protein thing.

1490
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 3: It's like, dude, like, all I got to do is

1491
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 3: drink a shake. I'm cool.

1492
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 4: I got my full acid profile and my full protein

1493
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 4: needs for the day.

1494
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 3: And I'm straight, yeah, you know, but supplementation.

1495
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 1: What's uh what your guys is you're in your wife's

1496
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: business called company called.

1497
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 3: Shoot my wife is she got her own business.

1498
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 4: She's like, hey, you know, I know we did that

1499
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 4: that uh that appearance together, but I need my half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she start plugging that.

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01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 4: So her I mean it's chef Charity Morgan. That's you know,

1502
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 4: that's her brands, her personality, and then you know she's

1503
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 4: her businesses is a plant life chef and so she

1504
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 4: does I call her a transitional chef.

1505
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 3: So if you're on the fence, and you're thinking about

1506
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 3: going plant based and you want to try things.

1507
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 4: She's that person that can make you a mac and

1508
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 4: cheese or like a shrimp pole boy.

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01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: Familiar with like exactly, so you don't have to go

1510
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: and eat a quinoa bowl, like what's that?

1511
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 4: Like I used to call it canoa, like like people

1512
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 4: don't even know a print stuff. So I think that,

1513
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 4: you know, that's what she's really amazing at. And she

1514
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 4: does a great job. It's a reason fifteen twenty guys

1515
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 4: are on our meal plan. Yeah, it's just that you

1516
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 4: don't have to compromise and the taste and it's hardy,

1517
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 4: you know, it's hardy meal. So I think she's doing

1518
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 4: a good job of kind of creating a brand for herself.

1519
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 4: She's in talks with some some networks to do a show.

1520
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 4: It's the reason I'm retiring, because you know she's retired sugarmoth.

1521
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got a sugar momba now.

1522
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, she's she's doing really good on that.

1523
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 4: And you know, we just we're trying to collaborate and enhance.

1524
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 3: Each other's efforts whenever we at at the time. But

1525
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 3: you know, she's doing her thing. I'm doing my thing,

1526
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 3: and then we come.

1527
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: Together on Yeah, what's her what's the website chef.

1528
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 4: Charity Morgan dot com And you can find her on

1529
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 4: Twitter and Instagram chef Charity Morgan.

1530
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: So we need it right there.

1531
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, your philanthropy work, Yeah, talk about talk about the

1532
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: things that you're involved in.

1533
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: For sure.

1534
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 4: The philanthropy has been an evolution over the years and

1535
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 4: really bro like it's like the phonemo. It's kind of

1536
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 4: a form of a phono of like not wanting to

1537
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 4: look up ten years from now, but like, damn, I

1538
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 4: should have did this while I had the platform, Like

1539
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 4: I should have I should have made this relationship or

1540
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: I should have did this because the one thing I

1541
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 4: started to adopt is is there's a fear of kind

1542
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 4: of doing stuff and taking a risk. But I think

1543
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 4: the feeling and the regret from not taking risks it's

1544
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 4: something that I want to avoid more so than not

1545
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 4: because I'm okay with taking a risk and trying and

1546
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 4: failing at something, even if you know I fail, at

1547
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,959
Speaker 4: least I tried, you know what I mean. So through

1548
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 4: that I've been looking at just different ways to always

1549
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 4: give back, and you know, being that we've gotten to

1550
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 4: this certain level, people look at us as an example,

1551
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 4: and so you want to do the right things, and

1552
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 4: you want to help people, and you want to do

1553
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 4: everything you can. And I've always been like I overanalyze things.

1554
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 4: It's like, man, I did this football camp, but this

1555
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: kid's still going back to the same environ I didn't

1556
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 4: really equip him with tools, Like he probably won't make

1557
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 4: the NFL. So what did I do to really help

1558
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 4: this kid other than meeting a professional athletes.

1559
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: As him just playing football for a day?

1560
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like what And not to say that those are

1561
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 4: bad things, like those are still good things, like he'll

1562
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 4: probably remember that the rest of his life, but in

1563
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 4: terms of being more sustainable and really giving people tangible resources.

1564
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: And so I've always looked at that.

1565
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 4: And as I started to look at my money and

1566
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 4: what my money was doing, it wasn't always.

1567
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 3: Matched up with the philanthropy.

1568
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 4: It's like I'm doing the football camps, the back to

1569
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 4: school drives, the Turkey giveaways, but my money's invested in

1570
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 4: over here in the stock market, and I don't know

1571
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 4: what that's doing, right. So I started to look into things.

1572
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 4: I watched this documentary called The Thirteenth Have you guys

1573
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 4: seen that on Netflix. It's on Netflix out It's called thirteenth.

1574
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 4: You know, the thirteenth Amendment is what abolished slavery, but

1575
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 4: there was this caveat in that in that bill where

1576
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 4: it basically said that you could still enslave people for

1577
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 4: criminal charges.

1578
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: Is this what you called me about that one time

1579
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: when you were calling about exactly prisons?

1580
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, what that What that thirteenth Amendment did was saying that,

1581
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 4: you know, if if you committed a crime, no matter

1582
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 4: how petty it was, I could lock you up. So

1583
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 4: right after slavery was abolished, all these black people were

1584
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 4: getting locked up for petty offenses loitering, you know, smoking,

1585
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 4: like just just different little petty offenses, and I would

1586
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 4: lock you up and I would get free labor.

1587
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 3: So it was essentially slavery at the end of the day.

1588
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 4: It was just that I criminalized you, and I made

1589
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 4: you a criminal, and I was able to extract free

1590
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 4: labor out of you.

1591
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 3: And so what you see now with the private prison

1592
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: industry is it's the same thing.

1593
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 4: You know, we have the we have the world's largest

1594
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 4: we have the world's largest prison population, and the ratio

1595
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 4: and how that adds up stacks up to the rest

1596
01:09:59,080 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 4: of the world's population.

1597
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 3: It's completely out of balance.

1598
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 4: And so when you look at the statistics around the

1599
01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,920
Speaker 4: people that are in prison and for petty offenses and

1600
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 4: all those things, it's a reason.

1601
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:10,799
Speaker 3: Why that happens.

1602
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 4: When we talk about private prisons, they're incentivized to keep

1603
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 4: people locked up. So if you come to me and

1604
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,799
Speaker 4: I'm a judge and I have some type of affiliation

1605
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 4: with a private prison group like a geo group or

1606
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 4: cour Civic that may be on I might might be

1607
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 4: on their payroll.

1608
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 3: So if you come to me and you're a kid

1609
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 3: and you kind of you.

1610
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 2: Know, as a judge, as the judge, I'll.

1611
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 4: Be more incentivized to lock you up because I know

1612
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: that those cour Civic and those geo groups, they have

1613
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 4: a certain quota to make. So if they're not, if

1614
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 4: they're not imprisoning people at a certain rate, they're losing money.

1615
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 3: So they're incentivized to lock people up for petty things.

1616
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 4: And so what I didn't know when I found out

1617
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 4: was that these companies are public companies that are traded

1618
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 4: on the stock market.

1619
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 3: And if you're part of a.

1620
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 4: Fund, the ETF and whatnot, you could unknowingly be invested

1621
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 4: in these companies and so what I started the wake

1622
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 4: up was like, dang, like, let me call my financial advisor. Hey,

1623
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 4: am I am I in these companies? Now you're not okay?

1624
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 4: But what is my money doing? And so I started

1625
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 4: to kind of reallocate my private capital that was invested

1626
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 4: into more impactful investments, so affordable housing developments, technology, training

1627
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 4: for underserved communities, access to capital for minority entrepreneurs, all

1628
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 4: these different things to try to break these cycles. And

1629
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 4: so when you talk about philanthropy, I've kind of evolved

1630
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 4: into like a holistic approach, so hitting a philanthropy to charity,

1631
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 4: but also you know, meaningful investments into these you know,

1632
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 4: communities to try to break these systemic cycles. And so

1633
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:45,799
Speaker 4: what I've done recently we formed an Opportunity Zone fund

1634
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 4: to basically go into these same communities but do what

1635
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 4: I've been doing at scale. You know, we're sitting right

1636
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 4: now in an opportunities zone. I don't know if I

1637
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 4: if I talk to you about.

1638
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,759
Speaker 2: This, you mentioned it but as much details.

1639
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,560
Speaker 3: So it's like, if you're an opportunity zone.

1640
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 4: Business and I invest in you, I can basically get

1641
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 4: a tax free investment on any type of liquidation. So

1642
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 4: if I have a capital gain and I reallocate that

1643
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 4: capital to the opportunities on right, to the opportunity's own

1644
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 4: business or development or whatnot, and if I hold that

1645
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 4: investment for over ten years, it becomes tax free.

1646
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: Correct.

1647
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 4: So what you're seeing is a lot of these private institutions,

1648
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 4: family offices, they have a lot of capital gains. I

1649
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 4: mean some people estimated it being a six point one

1650
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 4: trillion dollar market. So these when this money flows into

1651
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,639
Speaker 4: these communities, if it's not done the right way, then

1652
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 4: what you're going to see is more gentrification, more displacement,

1653
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 4: less ownership from the community. So my whole thing is

1654
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 4: making sure that doing I can do my part to

1655
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 4: make sure the investment is done the right way, so

1656
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 4: it's not just top down, Like the worst thing a

1657
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 4: community can ever want is somebody coming in and telling

1658
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 4: them and what they're supposed to do.

1659
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 3: Here.

1660
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 4: I'm here to help you. I'm here to help you

1661
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 4: solve your problems. I don't care what you say, this

1662
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 4: is what we're going to do. And so that's where

1663
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 4: it's like for me. I feel like when you go

1664
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 4: into these communities, it has to be an inclusive approach.

1665
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 4: Because I can't come into your home and your community

1666
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 4: and tell you what you need without having a conversation.

1667
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 3: With you first.

1668
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 4: And so what you're seeing is people reallocating their money

1669
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: to these communities, but solely based on the financial return.

1670
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: So what we're doing with our fund.

1671
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 4: Is essentially having a double bottom line, so you have

1672
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 4: a financial return, but you also have some type of social.

1673
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 3: Or environmental return as well.

1674
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 4: So we look at it as a very intentional investment

1675
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:44,560
Speaker 4: approach to revitalizing communities. And you know, we're looking at Nashville, Atlanta,

1676
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,759
Speaker 4: Austin where my partner is, Coachville where I'm from. There's

1677
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 4: opportunity zones in all these cities, and you know, we

1678
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,719
Speaker 4: have relationships within all.

1679
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,919
Speaker 1: These markets, and you're just trying to be more intimate

1680
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: with those areas other than letting the very top yes,

1681
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: just kind of side here's where all, here's what this

1682
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: money is going to go to.

1683
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 2: So then it doesn't kind of.

1684
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 4: Separate exactly, because if you look around Nashville, it's like

1685
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 4: how many cranes are in the sky bro.

1686
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 2: Like fifty Americas crane or megascrans are here? Are you serious?

1687
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: Some percentage like that.

1688
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 4: That's high so like, but if you go drive around

1689
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:23,560
Speaker 4: North Nashville, like it's pushing out to North Nashville.

1690
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: But what you see are people like these sleazy developers.

1691
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 4: If I had if you're if you're a resident in

1692
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 4: a home and I want to buy your home and

1693
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 4: you won't sell it, they'll go tell Metro and report

1694
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,560
Speaker 4: codes on you and say, look, they're not in compliance,

1695
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 4: their their roof is messed up, or they're you're not

1696
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 4: following this, so you can get evicted and I come

1697
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 4: and snatch your home up so I can tear it

1698
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 4: down and build a tall and skinny and have somebody

1699
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 4: move in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot exactly. So that's

1700
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 4: what you see is happening. These people are are not

1701
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 4: you know, privy to what's going on, and they're getting

1702
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 4: taken advantage of because they just don't have the financial literacy,

1703
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 4: the education understand it. And so that's what I'm trying

1704
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 4: to prevent, you know, and play my role prevent from happening.

1705
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 4: And so yeah, I mean that's what I've been focused

1706
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 4: on the last couple of months, and we're trying to

1707
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 4: really do it the right way.

1708
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 2: That's awesome. You're a stud man, it's incredible.

1709
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's four three nothing? Maddie wanted to

1710
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 1: talk a little ball back there. Well, it was a

1711
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: recommend I apologize.

1712
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 2: Four to three is four defensive linemen and three linebacks.

1713
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: Over that transitioning from.

1714
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: A four three d N two three four outside back

1715
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: here just me in my head. I was like, I already,

1716
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: we already know, like there's gonna be a lot of

1717
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: topics that you'll be able to kind of.

1718
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 3: Go with with. Okay, are we at a time?

1719
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've been wrapping if you want to

1720
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 2: hit one.

1721
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: It was like the transition from a four three hit

1722
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 1: the go ahead, hit that quick, bro.

1723
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 4: I thought I was about to get either traded or released.

1724
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 4: I called my agent at the time, and I was like, Hey,

1725
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 4: they just hired Kim wizend Hunt.

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01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 3: He's a three four guy. Like, what's up? Am I

1727
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,520
Speaker 3: getting released?

1728
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 2: Like?

1729
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: No, they definitely see you as being a part of

1730
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 3: their plans moving forward.

1731
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this is the political answer. Yeah.

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01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 4: Like, but I'm like, yo, this is my contract here.

1733
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 4: You just changed my position. And so I was like, okay,

1734
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 4: I had to either take it on an.

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01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 3: Approach of naw, I'm not doing that or I had

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01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 3: to approach it with.

1737
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 4: Open mind, and that's what I did. And so I

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01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 4: think it's all about mindset, right, you know, it's all

1739
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 4: about your approach and your mentality on certain situations. So

1740
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 4: if you focus on the bad, that's all you're going

1741
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 4: to see is bad. But if you focus on the

1742
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 4: you know, the positive outlook, and you'll start to see

1743
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 4: the opportunities in it. And that's exactly how I approached it.

1744
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 4: And so for me, I think it worked out because

1745
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 4: you know, playing four three m that's a lot more

1746
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,480
Speaker 4: grinding and hitting three four outside linebacker.

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01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 3: You're still in the in the trenches.

1748
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 4: But yeah, I might drop out for coverage every other

1749
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,519
Speaker 4: couple of plays and that kind of staves your body.

1750
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 4: So I took it on the approach of that. And

1751
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: then when you have Dick with Bow coming in and

1752
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 4: running that three.

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01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 2: Four, that's unreal.

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01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 4: I love that three before I could play that, you know,

1755
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 4: for ten years. And so you know, it's all about

1756
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 4: the scheme fit. And I think that the scheme, the

1757
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 4: three four scheme fit me and guys like Brian and

1758
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 4: Rackbow skill set very well.

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01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 3: Like we weren't dropping in the coverage every play. We

1760
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 3: weren't at the.

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01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 4: Nose taking on double teams and doing things that were

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 4: outside of our skill set, and so I think it's

1763
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 4: all about the scheme and it definitely helped us.

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01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. Boys. That was so understead Man.

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01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:24,640
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on.