1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal ll that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 2: be happy. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: You want to be happy for a day? 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: Eat of steak? 7 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Is that woo? Woof? 8 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: And Dan and tie. 9 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the saliverbal boys and girls. My name 10 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: is ty Hila Brandt. That fine gentleman over there as 11 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: always in snowy but still cheery Chicago, Illinois. 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: Andrewsteitzir, how are you good? Playing some tennis? Bacon, some pizza? 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 2: Nothing crazy to report, though, I have been trying to 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: potty train a three year old. Uh zah, it's an 15 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: it's an ongoing process. This is a temp number two. 16 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: He's doing a lot better this time, but it's it's 17 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: an ongoing situation, Tyler. So that was my weekend. That's 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: something I learned, by the way, if you're thinking about 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: having children, could not recommend it enough. But weekends are different. 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: Weekends become a lot more work than I was used to. 21 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: So that's the only thing I have to add that 22 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: just go in knowing that. Otherwise, ty I'm thrilled to 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: be here, and you learn to appreciate work after weekends 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: or long weekends with young children. 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: So here we are. 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: I'm great. 27 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: Here we are. Welcome back in Dan. I'm glad you 28 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: had a good weekend. It sounds like it was a 29 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: mostly successful effort from the Marcos that we exchanged, so 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: I'm pleased to hear that. I hope it can continue. 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 2: Is going well. 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate the support from you. Please keep us posted 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: on that front. 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We're going 58 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: to continue doing it once week throughout the off season 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: as well. Quote the show was so good, you guys 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: need to work out a way to convey to the 61 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: public that the bruin As are a big part of 62 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: why the price of admission. 63 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 2: Is worth it. 64 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: WHOA, I don't know what that way YouTube cutups for 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: teaser clips or what. But you guys just talking whilst 66 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: I love that word guided by audience questions is always 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: a joy. Thank you, mindsirt or Madam Verballers do. Com 68 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: Boom is where you can go to find out more 69 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: info on that. We offer the live stream of that 70 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: video available to all The archived version is available to 71 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: our premium tier, but everybody gets the audio at bare minimum. 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: We take your questions every week, and honestly, it's one 73 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: of the most exciting, most fun things that we do 74 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: every week. I have nothing to add. 75 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: I'm ready to get You want to give us some 76 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: news before we get into our main subject. I do. 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't have the sound My soundboard died. 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: Can you approximate it? 79 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: Tie breaking news? 80 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: I think we nailed it. We're like the guy oh now, 81 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: I forget his name, Michael something from police Academy. That's 82 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 2: a very old reference at this point in time. But 83 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: we do have some news. So the playoff not expanding yet. 84 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: We have a timetable. 85 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Screeching halt sounds at the ready, yesuse it sounds like 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: that's where we're at. I did my best to skim 87 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: the rather long Heather Dinnish article. Okay, fair, she does 88 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: a great job. 89 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: Awesome job. 90 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: It appears as if the ACC has some reservations, particularly Clemson. 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: Sort of yeah, it's it's more of first of all, 92 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: capital T capital A. The alliance was not a part 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: of the previous conversation. Of course, Georgie k coming in 94 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: as the new commissioner in the PAC twelve was shadowing 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: Larry Scott during the conversations about twelve team expansion, But 96 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: in those meetings, not every commissioner was present. And of 97 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: course Jim Phillips, the commissioner of the ACC, he is 98 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 2: brand new as well, and so Kevin Warren relatively new 99 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: in his own right in the Big Ten. So there 100 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: is that concern because some of these commissioners are saying, look, 101 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: what does this look like for the athletes? What does 102 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: this look like with relation to nil? What does this 103 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: look like in terms of expansion expansion of the sports schedule? 104 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: And the Jim Phillips thing is he referenced talking to 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: coaches who were unanimous and not wanting expansion, even though 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: Pitt would have been in this past year if they 107 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: had adhered to a conference champion model, and Clemson players specifically, 108 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: per Jim Phillips, were not in favor of playing more games, 109 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: which is not necessarily where this is all going if 110 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 2: the regular season schedule is altered in some way. So 111 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: I think the sentiment was, we're cool with expansion, but 112 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: let's figure out how it can work for everybody, and 113 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: everybody not necessarily meaning conference commissioners, but everybody coaching and 114 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 2: playing and involved in scheduling and making this happen. From 115 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: an administrative and competitive standpoint, so that, I guess is 116 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: the point. Though it seems like expansion is inevitable, there 117 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: are now factions and conversations around the margins about how 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 2: this is all going to work. That has pushed it 119 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: pushed things back to a place of I don't know, 120 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: questionable scheduling, questionable scheduling the current I don't know when 121 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 2: it's gonna happen. Yeah, the current. 122 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: Format ends in what two years? Twenty twenty five, right, 123 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: And so many of these early discussions I think are 124 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: trying to go to a place where they could change 125 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: it before then. But I think we're at a point 126 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: one way or the other where they're gonna expand the playoff. 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. It's just a matter of when 128 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: is it going to happen and works like yeah, right, 129 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: and what it looks like. Is it going to happen 130 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: before that twenty twenty five or twenty twenty six, whenever 131 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: it is, or is it going to happen after all? 132 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: Along there has been speculation media rights and what does 133 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: it mean if they do it before versus after? It 134 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: all goes to ESPN. If it's before, if it's after, 135 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: they can chop it up. It seems there's a desire 136 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: to chop it. There's like a whole slew of media 137 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: related things that are involved here, but we haven't even 138 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: gotten to that stage. Is what I think I took 139 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: away from this. What we're still kind of squabbling over 140 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: is where are we playing the games? How many games? 141 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: I saw Jim Phillips, he had some thoughtful comments, Yeah, 142 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, with regard to players safety and health and 143 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: playing the extra games. And I think it's fair to 144 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: ask all those questions. I don't fault him for wanting 145 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: to get answers to those beforehand. 146 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: We will get there. 147 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: It just may not happen as quickly as we were 148 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: led to believe earlier this year when this working committee 149 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: came back with the twelve team expansion idea or ideas. 150 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: So we'll see. Yeah, it just all rubs me the 151 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: wrong way, Tym. I've been somewhat consistent in this, Like, 152 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: I know it's inevitable, I know it's happening. I know 153 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: I will personally adjust, but I am still of the 154 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: mind that this is not all the point of college football, 155 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: that this shaping and growing of January in the sport. 156 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: Like I understand everybody wants to find a national champion. Okay, great, 157 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: I'm along for that, but that we are focusing so 158 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 2: much and we're pouring so much into it when such 159 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: so few teams actually have a chance of winning it, 160 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: especially now that they're gonna have to win two or 161 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: three games to win the whole thing, three four, whatever, 162 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: however many games it's going to go to that, I 163 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: think we're losing sight of the appeal and charm and 164 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: the differentiating factors of the sport. Like I don't know, 165 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: you ever go to a pro stadium and you know, 166 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: like they build up the area around the stadium. There's 167 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: like a yard house, you know, all those types of places. Like, 168 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 2: are we just turning college football into a yard house? 169 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: We're losing all of the like interesting unique local bars 170 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: and restaurants, and we're all just dining at the places 171 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: within three hundred and forty four feet of like the 172 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: city this sends Bank Stadium or something, you know what 173 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: I'm saying that Like we're just focusing on just like 174 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: the big box element of January college football, and we're 175 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 2: just like, I don't know, this just doesn't seem like 176 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: the point of the sport. 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: At all. 178 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: And that's just me, I suppose, because obviously I'm in 179 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: the minority here. But I don't know all of these stories. 180 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: Just like God, we're thinking about January some more. This 181 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: is what this is what we want from the sport. Okay, cool? 182 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: And it just I don't know. Bums me out. I 183 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: know what's happening. I know it's inevitable. I'll get on 184 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: board in the way that I can, But I don't know, Ty, 185 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: does this do it for you? Is this really doing 186 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: it for you? That's a leading question. 187 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: I love the idea of playing first round playoff games 188 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: on campus. Sure, I don't know if that will happen, 189 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: but at least that very specific aspect of some of 190 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: the plans that have been floated, that very specific aspect 191 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: is of incredible interest to me. 192 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: I would love to see that. 193 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: I think that would very much play into what you're 194 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: just that nuance, the uniqueness of college football having games 195 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: on campus. 196 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: Right, Are they gonna do it? 197 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if that's something that 198 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: they can agree to. Everybody seems wedded to the bowl 199 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: system as it stands. You know, I'm not going to 200 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: take the side on that. I just would love to 201 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: see more games on campus. I think that's the one 202 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: thing you and I can agree on. Beyond that, though, 203 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: how they structure it, how teams get in, how deep 204 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: into January this thing goes. It's also fair to ask 205 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: those questions because for as much as we paid attention 206 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: to the Alabama versus Georgia National Championship game, and for 207 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: as much as I know that it was a big 208 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: deal to watch that game on January tenth for most 209 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: of the people who listen to the show, I also 210 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: know there are a fair amount of folks who, after 211 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: their team played their bowl game, presumably before January tenth, 212 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: they were like, no, I'm good, I'm not gonna stay up. 213 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stay up to watch the SEC championship 214 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: game again. Just let me know what happens after the 215 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: fact ESPN dot com, cbssports dot Com, and I'll be 216 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: good with that. The same was true to an extent 217 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: with the playoff right if your team wasn't in it, 218 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: we saw ratings were down, and I could talk as 219 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: much as I want about playing games in New Year's 220 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: even what that means, But I just think they need 221 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: to find some way to keep interest high. If they're 222 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: going to really invest heavily into this twelve team model, 223 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: now I'm all for it. I'm okay with it. I 224 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: think at least initially, there will be interest in seeing 225 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: what happens in those first two rounds. 226 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: Everybody's getting participation trophies, right, that's the whole point of this. 227 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: Allow more teams to participate with the same exact outcomes. Right, 228 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 2: It's a participation trophy event coming to the sport we love. 229 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: But they have not proven to me, through at least 230 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: this first version of playoff expansion, if you want to 231 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: call it that, when they went to four teams, they 232 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: have not proven that they can drive that interest through 233 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: a final four round, let alone a final twelve. I 234 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: think the interest will be higher in a final twelve, 235 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: probably more so than a final four. 236 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: But maybe they have not proven. The powers that. 237 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: Be have not proven that they have a good way 238 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: to make the college football watching public very interested, as 239 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: interested as they would like in that. 240 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: Final four round. 241 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: And so i'm they got to figure that part out. 242 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's marketing, I don't 243 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: know if it's by including more teams, whatever it is. 244 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: But if you're going to expand at twelve. You've got 245 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: to prove out that the interest is going to be 246 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: as high as you want it to be. 247 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: I am not bright enough, and please let me be 248 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 2: the first to announce this. I'm not bright enough to 249 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: understand TV ratings, what it all means, what to extrapolate 250 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: from down ratings, from up ratings, how streaming numbers are 251 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: involved or not involved, or people watching in groups or 252 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: at bars or whatever. I don't know any of that stuff. 253 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 2: That's not what I do. But it seems like with 254 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: the playoff, people were super excited in twenty fourteen fifteen, right, 255 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: that was the first season we get Oregon, Floria State, Alabama, 256 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 2: Ohio State, Oregon. Excuse me, Oregon. Who do they play? Yeah, 257 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: Oregon Ohio State in the National Championship. I think that 258 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: was the highest rated game. And like it has just 259 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: slowly fallen off every year, like people are excited for 260 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: something new and then like the reality of the situation 261 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: sets in and you're just like, oh, these are the 262 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: teams built to win it every year. I just something 263 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: tells me we're in for that with the twelve teamer 264 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: that you know, the sport grows during the regular season 265 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: and shrinks in the postseason, and we're having the people, 266 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: the same people decide on this postseason that have been 267 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: deciding on all of the postseasons, the commissioners and Bill 268 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: Hancock and all these people, And I just think it's 269 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: going to go that way, like there's going to be 270 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: an inevitability to whatever this playoff becomes. That is going 271 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: to sort of further steer like college football should be 272 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: like this sport or like that sport instead of college 273 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: football just being college football, right with trying to maximize 274 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: what the regular season is, instead of saying what January is, like, Oh, 275 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: we should get twelve teams or sixteen teams and be 276 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: like a Sweet sixteen like college basketball or like the NFL, 277 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: and like playing at home stadiums in the cold and 278 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 2: get this team from Florida to a midwestern place and 279 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 2: see how they play. Okay, cool, it's just going farther 280 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: and farther, further and further away from I think what 281 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: a lot of people or most people actually love about 282 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: the sport. So I don't know, we'll see happy to 283 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: be proven wrong, but it doesn't seem like people are 284 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: into postseason college football for a national championship at the moment. 285 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: Maybe that'll change when Pitt and Wisconsin and Baylor are playing. 286 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe it will. 287 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. 288 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: Hard for me to see. 289 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: Right in, let us know your thought, soliverbo atmail dot com. 290 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: My hunch is that. 291 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot of varying opinions on this for a 292 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: very subject. My opinion varies from day to day. Frankly, 293 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: I've always been a playoff guy. I'm all in favor 294 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: of twelve teams. But you can't help but be a 295 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: little bit skeptical that this thing is going to end 296 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: up being great for college football when you hear some 297 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: of the behind the scenes sure conjecture, right, It's just, yeah, 298 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: I think there's skepticism abound as to what it would do, 299 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: what it would mean, how it would help, how it 300 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: might hurt. The only way we're ultimately going to find 301 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: out is when they put this thing into effect, whether 302 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: it's an hour or later, and it will happen. 303 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: But right in, by the way, thoughts, more money, way, 304 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: more money for players would go a long way from 305 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: me in appreciating any sort of expansion. 306 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: That's all, Okay, we'll leave it at that. What else 307 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: do we have around the world of college football very 308 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: quickly before we get into our game. 309 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of more money for other people beyond players, 310 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: Kirk ference is now making seven million dollars a season, 311 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: which is not an unheard of amount of money for 312 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: a relatively successful coach, which he is. He made the 313 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: Big Ten championship game this year. He's extended through twenty 314 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: twenty nine. On the heels of I looked it up. 315 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: Iowa had the one hundred and fourth most efficient scoring 316 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: offense this year under his son, one hundred and fourth. 317 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: I think he's cracked a top fifty points per drive 318 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: offense once in the past ten years. 319 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: So if that's. 320 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: Worth seven mil, that's worth seven mil. And he dissolved 321 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: the like Diversity council that he was spearheading that was 322 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: on the council recommended that they move into a new 323 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: direction with both hiring a new ad and new head 324 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: football coach. So yeah, those are the goings on in 325 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: Iowa City right now. Sucks. I guess if you're an 326 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: Iowa fan looking for a new look Iowa offense. 327 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: Not a great looked in, No, not a great look 328 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: at all. But Kirk Farrens is sticking around until thirty 329 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: twenty nine whenever it is, and I hopefully he can 330 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: make some changes on offense. I don't know, he's not 331 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: going to it's his kid, but no bringing. 332 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: More cousins more to run things. 333 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody needs to offer Brian Farren's a job elsewhere 334 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: to like run his own thing. 335 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: Sure, like a Kinko's. What what kind of job are 336 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: you talking about? 337 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that was always the thing with 338 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: Jay Paterno at Penn State, right. 339 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: There are always jokes like, hey, are there. 340 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: Any rich boosters who can offer this guy a job 341 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: doing something else? Or do you own like a semi 342 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: pro team that perhaps you could put him in charge of, 343 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: just to get him out of that coordinator role. 344 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 2: A reht Bomar no show car dealership job. 345 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't. 346 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: I don't know who that booster is at Iowa to 347 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 2: be like, hey, buddy, you want to you want to 348 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: sell medical parts, you want to sell you want to 349 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: sell any sort of equipment that people and you just 350 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: don't have to do it. You just show up and 351 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: be like, hey, I'm Brian, what would you like to 352 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: know about what it's like to stand on the field 353 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: at Kinnick and hopefully you can move some catheters. 354 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 355 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 2: So that's Iowa football right now. We've got transfers, we've 356 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 2: got NFL declarations. George is gonna look very different next year, 357 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: and by golly, I think they're still gonna be talented ty, 358 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: By golly, I think they're gonna field a good team. 359 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: But like the headline names, James Cook, Nacobe Dean Jordan 360 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 2: Davis obviously has gone, George Pickens, DeVante Wyatt lewis seen 361 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 2: who was so good all season long at safety, So 362 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: they're gonna look very different. They've had some transfers at corner, 363 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: I believe, but I saw Nolan Smith, the edge rusher 364 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: outside linebacker. He announced he's returning. Stetson Bennett expected to return. 365 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 2: That they're just gonna look very different, but I don't 366 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: anticipate a giant drop off. I don't believe they're gonna 367 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: be national championship contenders, but who knows, ty, come on, 368 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: they're one of like the six teams that can win 369 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: it all most years, So who am I to say? Okay? 370 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: Any other news? 371 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: Jhalil Billingsley to Texas following old offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian 372 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: Drew Sanders, the BAMA linebacker. Bama's lost a few kids. 373 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is. 374 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: There's no way to keep up. Like Caleb Williams. The 375 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: time of this recording, Mida Monday has not signed anywhere, 376 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: though Mario Williams is now former receiver at Oklahoma, is 377 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: going to sc Jackson Dart, the freshman USC quarterback who 378 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: entered the portal, is deciding allegedly between Ole Miss and 379 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: A and m or excuse me, Ole Miss and Oklahoma. 380 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 2: And I think you had some thoughts like why would 381 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: he consider Oklahoma when Gabriel's there? Yeah? I mean what 382 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 2: am I missing? Why? 383 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: I understand that there is an appeal with Jeff Levy, Right, 384 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: I get that, and that's why Dylan Gabriel went there, right, 385 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: they're trying to I get that. I understand that. What 386 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand for the life of me is why, 387 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: if you're Jackson Dart, why would you go into a 388 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: situation like that? Why would you sign up for a 389 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: situation right where there's already a very obvious starter who 390 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: is signed on to play at Oklahoma and you know 391 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: that from day one you're going to be in a 392 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: fierce competition to get playing time. 393 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: I understand these guys you have, like a down quarter 394 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: they're calling for the other guy. 395 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand that if you are a quarterback recruit 396 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: at that level, you are supremely confident in your own abilities. 397 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you shouldn't seek out some level of competition, 398 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: but this is a one time transfer rule. 399 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: Okay. 400 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: So if you want to go, and if you want 401 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: to get immediate eligibility, and presumably if you want to 402 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: be an NFL quarterback and get the most out of 403 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: your college experience, why would you not go into a 404 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: situation where there is less resistance. You know, everybody, everybody 405 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: wants to talk the game, and everybody wants to beat 406 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: out the next best guy and prove their metal at 407 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: the college level. That's very admirable. Go where you're going 408 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: to get playing time. Go to Ole Miss. Ole Miss 409 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: is fine. You will do well at Ole Miss. You 410 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: can play for Charlie Weish junior and Lane Kiffin, and 411 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: you can leave in two years. I don't know what 412 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: Charlie West Junior's got up his sleeve, but nonetheless, there's 413 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: a lot less resistance at Old Miss than there is. 414 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: At at Oklahoma. 415 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: What are you doing goosing? It's fine, it's great. You 416 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: loved your time in Oxford? Great, right, yeah, it's a 417 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: fun time. I don't I don't believe Jackson Dart will 418 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: be tailgating in the way that I was tailgating when 419 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: I was twenty three years old or however old. I 420 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: was with a bunch of college girls and sun dresses, 421 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: and it was a very different experience for me that 422 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure it would be friendy ole Miss quarterback tailgating. 423 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: I suppose you're attending that school. 424 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: So, uh, he might really like Oklahoma. He might really 425 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: like Brent Venables. He would be playing behind an offensive 426 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: line coach by one of the what best three, if 427 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 2: not the best offensive. 428 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: But what he won't play until next year? Right? You 429 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: think he's gonna beat out Dylan Gabriel. 430 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, so Jackson Dart attends USC with 431 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: another blue chip quarterback and beat him out Miller Moss 432 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: for the backup job behind Keaton Slovas. So on a 433 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: certain level, they're like, you gotta bet on yourself, right, 434 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: Like ole Miss is still bringing in quarterbacks. Ole Miss 435 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: might bring in a five star, like they might bring 436 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: in arch Manning, Like this is a landscape now where 437 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: you're like, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna go where field, 438 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: where it feels right, where the coaches are the best 439 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: at developing quarterbacks, and of course that's where all the 440 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 2: quarterbacks want to go. So Jackson Dart, I don't know 441 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: him personally, don't really know people that know him all 442 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: that well, but you have to assume that he feels 443 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 2: pretty good about his chances about starting wherever he goes 444 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: based on the interest that he's received since entering the portal, 445 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: Like where would he like, should he go to cal 446 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: and be the next average you know, play behind an 447 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: average offensive line and not throw to NFL receivers? Like, 448 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, what are you supposed to do? I 449 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: understand that it's a should he go to Michigan and 450 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: like try to beat out Cade McNamara and JJ McCarthy. 451 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: What's the move? It's a fluid situation, yeah, pretty much 452 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: all day every day now in college football between the 453 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: nil stuff and the transfer rule and just it's different, right, 454 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: It's different than it was five years ago, ten years ago. 455 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: I get that it's fluid. I get that it's a 456 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: moving target. I get that there is no silver bullet. 457 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: I just don't understand. Like Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel is 458 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: a good example. Dylan Gabriel, Yeah, decided to go to 459 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: Oklahoma after he saw that there was an opening with 460 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams leaving Sure all right, he took this philosophy 461 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: of Hey, first off, there was a relationship there with 462 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: Jeff Levit, it made sense that he'd want to go 463 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: there and play for him. But as soon as he 464 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: found out there was an opening, he pulled back his 465 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: commitment to UCLA and decided he was going to go 466 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: somewhere else. Mm hmm. 467 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: Path of these resistance. 468 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: If you have the one time transfer, don't burn it 469 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: on like a dream. Burn it on a place where 470 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: you can go and play, and hopefully, if you want 471 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: to play in the league, give yourself the most area, 472 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: the best opportunity to do so. I just the betting 473 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: on your on yourself thing makes a lot of sense 474 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: to me. 475 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: I get it. 476 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: You have to do that on sub level, but don't 477 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: be stupid about it. 478 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: Go where you're gonna play, but everywhere you go there 479 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 2: is going to be a quarterback of the future or 480 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: another quarterback behind you. That fans are going to clamor 481 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: for that coaches are going to consider if you struggle, 482 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 2: if he had stayed at USC, He's like I can 483 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: beat out Kayleb Williams like, and you though, like, I 484 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: don't know what the solution is, Like you either go 485 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: somewhere where there aren't there isn't talent around you and 486 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 2: the coaches don't have a track record of developing NFL 487 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: caliber quarterbacks, or someplace that has lost a bunch of 488 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: guys to the portal for whatever reason, or that they 489 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: don't have faith in their current quarterback of the future. 490 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: But all of these places, because of transfers, because of 491 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: you know, everything going on the movement in the sport, 492 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 2: they're all going to load up at quarterback. 493 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: But then why not just stay at USC if you're 494 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: so confident, Just stay at USC and beat out. 495 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: Whoever they bring in. Because he probably believes and rightfully so, 496 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, if he's coming to USC is already Lincoln 497 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 2: Riley's guy, already has a leg up on the Lincoln 498 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: Riley system, already is in with the Lincoln Riley guys 499 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: in way of life. 500 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: Well, what about he probably me Jeff Dylan Gabriel is 501 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: a Lebby guy. 502 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: Well Leby was old missed, though there was at least 503 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: some sort of space there, And I, you know, I 504 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: don't know, Ty, you might just go to a school 505 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: where you're like, this place feels like home, right this place, 506 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: see I'm looking out. Maybe they have everything. 507 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm too cynical at this stage in the game. 508 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: But guys are getting money, guys are going place as 509 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: they're transferring like never before because they want to play 510 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Sure, and so feels like home. You know, 511 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: you can make any place feel like home if you're 512 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: getting seven figures, or if you're getting a good nil deal, 513 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: or if you've got people in your ear telling me 514 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: the right stuff. So I only half buy that. In 515 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: most cases, I just don't. I don't get decision making. 516 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: So ole Miss is the obvious choice for you to 517 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: play for Lane Kiff. With Matt Crow moving on to 518 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: the NFL. Ole Miss has a new offensive coordinator or 519 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: not that it's not Lane Kiffin's offense, and Charlie weis junior. 520 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 2: They lost a bunch of I think lost some offensive 521 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: skill talent to the draft. I just I at least 522 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: Brent Venables has like its fresh eyes right, that he 523 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: himself is not necessarily loyal to Dylan Gabriel or Jackson 524 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: Dart either way, that I guess is the case. Like 525 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 2: right now, is there any other school where you're like, 526 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: oh man, why not go here? Why not go to 527 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: North Carolina unless you believe in Drake may is at 528 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: the quarterback of the future, Like why not go to 529 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 2: Like what's the school? What are the other options? Right now? 530 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I 531 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: don't know. Don't ask me. I don't don't go to Stanford. 532 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 2: Their offense, they were producing NFL level quarterbacks and now 533 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 2: they're not. I just don't. 534 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I don't get it. There 535 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: is another very high profile quarterback that has transferred into 536 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: Oklahoma and now you are going to go there too again. 537 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: One time rule you could transfer rule, but that you 538 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: know that gets murky. One time rule, make it worth it. 539 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 540 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: Maybe Dylan Gabriel's I think what he broke his classical 541 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 2: Maybe he's got a bum collarbone that like, I don't know, 542 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 2: he's not throwing right, I don't know, I don't know. 543 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: I'm just speculating. I'm completely guessing that there's some reason 544 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 2: that he feels like he could win a job anywhere, 545 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: and those are the places that appeal to him. If 546 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 2: I were him. If I were him, I would look 547 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 2: up who the best offensive line coaches are in the country. 548 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: After what Keidan's Slovas was like on the you know, 549 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 2: under constant pressure at USC. I don't blame him for that. 550 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: USC couldn't develop that many. I think they had a 551 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 2: couple of offensive line draft picks, But I don't blame 552 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: him for looking at it like that. I look forward 553 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 2: to seeing where he goes. I look forward to following 554 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: his career. He looks like Anakin Skywalker, right, that's his thing. 555 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: That That is literally why he does the EyeBlack thing. 556 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah right, okay, that's literally why. So all right, we've 557 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: got a fun game planned for today. Yes, we're gonna 558 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: be logging onto the internet. Dan, can you please play 559 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: that sound for me? Of course, there it is. Everybody 560 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: knows this sound unless you are a youth. So a 561 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: gen z our bod modems are dialed in. We are 562 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: hardwired now into the good old fashioned interwebs. For as 563 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: long as I can remember, for as long as you 564 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: can remember, message boards have powered the college football community. 565 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: It is truly one of the things that has made 566 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: college football unique. Every sport has it, college football takes 567 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: it to something of a different level. Yes, Over the 568 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: last couple of years, there have been a variety of 569 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: social media accounts that have popped up to track some 570 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: of the oddities that transpire in this very secular or 571 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: these very secular college football ecosystems. One that you and 572 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: I have grown particularly fond of is called message board 573 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: Geniuses Accurate treasurer at board geniuses on Twitter. We're big 574 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: fans of the work. They don't know that we're doing this, But. 575 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Is that boa r D or b o r e D. 576 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: It could be the hand Yeah, that's true. I believe 577 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: it's just bo ar D genius, Okay. And what they 578 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: do is they capture some of the local flavor from 579 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: around college football. I'm assuming many of these are sent 580 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: and they're not in any position to track all of 581 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: them at once. It would be a gargantuan effort. But 582 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: what you and I have done is we have gone 583 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: through this beloved Twitter feed. We have pulled some of 584 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: our favorites and we are actually going to analyze the 585 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: veracity of some of these claims right as you might expect. 586 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 1: Some are just incredibly galaxy brain and overthought and ridiculous 587 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: in nature. Some actually I pulled a couple. It's like, okay, okay, 588 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: I can I can. 589 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: Maybe see this some board. 590 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, come on board. For those watching the video, I 591 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: put together a tinfoil hat that I'm now. 592 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: Putting on you. 593 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: You look wonderful. I put the tinfoil hat on here. 594 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 595 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to wear it for. 596 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: The remainder of the episode because we need to do 597 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: so in order to talk through some of these things. Yeah, 598 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: I'm excited. 599 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 2: By the way. Can I ask you? Can I ask 600 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: you about the ethics of screen grabbing paywalled in some cases, 601 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 2: in most cases, messages on messages on message boards. Do 602 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: you think it's okay in the interest of hilarious transparency 603 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: or do you think it's akin to the matt Ufford 604 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: theory of nobody should ever film anybody else at karaoke, right, 605 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 2: that that's a private, safe place to get things off 606 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: of your chest and to vent in a lot of 607 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: the same ways, karaoke is right. That you're just like 608 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have a couple of drinks. I had a 609 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: rough work week. I'm just gonna belt out. Let's do 610 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: it for the boys or whatever your your karaoke song is. 611 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: Do you feel that it's an unethical violation to publicize 612 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 2: this kind of private space. 613 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: Clearly they are not the ones going out and getting 614 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: these screen right, of course they're being sent to them, but. 615 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: They're publicizing how many Twitter followers does something right. It's 616 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: not insignificant, So I am okay with it. Because we 617 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: college we cover college football from the national broad view, 618 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: where all of these things at the more team specific 619 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: level are not always visible, so I appreciate the level 620 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 2: of insight. I say it's okay because I believe they 621 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 2: only post anonymous accounts, so it's not Dave Davis from 622 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: Dave Davis Dental posting. Here's what I think about you 623 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 2: know so and So's ex wife. I think I'm okay 624 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: with the anonymous element of it. So I'm okay ethically 625 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: with the ridiculous things we're about to approach. So you 626 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: got a bunch here? Were you a poster ever? Yes? 627 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: A lurker? 628 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: Yes? And yes? 629 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: Okay? How many message board accounts do you have? 630 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: Currently just one and I can't say much beyond that. 631 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: But I way back when I used to lurk and 632 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: I think occasionally post. My career is a no small 633 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: parts message boards. 634 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: You know this. I do tell my story band great story. 635 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: I spammed when I was at before I was at SI, 636 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: when I was doing the college what was the College 637 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: Football Tour Guide? How I got my start in my 638 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: own website doing these videos at Tailgates. I used to 639 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: spam every single Scout and Rivals message board with my videos. 640 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 2: I used to embent every single one of them, like, hey, 641 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: I went to text A and M this week. Hey, 642 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: and I just put put it on every site and 643 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: it got viewers, it did well, and then I just 644 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: I got banned I'm sure from all of them, but 645 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: it worked, so uh, don't do that now. That's not nice. 646 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I used to post and uh lurk some 647 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: on I don't remember if I paid or if I 648 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: got comped by people. I know that I don't remember 649 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: because it was so long ago. We're talking like eight 650 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 2: oh nine, twenty ten. Somewhere in there at e Duck, 651 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: which was part of the Scout community when scout dot 652 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: com was a thing. But that's I did look up 653 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: your handle, your chosen handle today on Google to see 654 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 2: there's nothing that exciting now in terms of Google results. 655 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, I am quite familiar, That's what I'm saying. 656 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was part of two at one point three 657 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: and now only just one, which I can't say more 658 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: about either. O'h look at you. But I understand the 659 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: ecosystem well. I think in order to be a true 660 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: college football fan, I wouldn't suggest you go out there 661 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: and start posting, but you at least need to understand 662 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: that this is a pretty good hotbed for strange opinions 663 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: and strange takes. As it relates to individual teams in 664 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: college football, we'll. 665 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: Get into it. Isn't it amazing though, that you think 666 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: about every single advance in web technology, every single podcasting videos, 667 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,719 Speaker 2: any sort of language. I don't know what Python is, 668 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: I have no clue, but there's different languages, there's different 669 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: ways of conveying information, different social media platforms. But if 670 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: you want to make a good amount of money in 671 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: college football, there are like three and a half ways, 672 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 2: and one of which is by running a very successful 673 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 2: paywalled message board site. Correct and this is technology from 674 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: late nineties, Like this is not crazy advanced web technology, 675 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: and yet the appeal for people to spend money is 676 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: to collectively as a community, guess about recruiting that Like, 677 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: you can be a former player who makes a ton 678 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: of money on TV or the radio. You can run 679 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: a message board, or you can be like Bryce Young. 680 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: Those those are your options right now to make a 681 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: bunch of money in college football. And so I mean 682 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: good for the people who have been able to like 683 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: sustain this, because really this is the move. Like we 684 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: know people who run these sites that have a lot 685 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: of subscriber to do we do. There's some cash in it. 686 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: There's absolutely some cash in it. So listen, I tip 687 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 2: my cap. And it's one of the ongoing surprises of 688 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 2: the Internet and sports that this is just hand over 689 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: fist if you're doing it right for the right team. 690 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: It is very much in the broad stroke of the 691 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: Internet as analog as it gets. But alas message boards 692 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: have persisted. 693 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, over the years, the cockroaches of this current apocalypse. 694 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: I want to call reference to this suite. 695 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: Okay, hit may this tweet that was posted back on 696 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: January the twelfth. It looks like this one was found 697 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: over at eleven Warriors. Oh, shout out Ramsey, Shout out Ramsey, 698 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: great Ohio State site. Okay, what is what is the 699 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: what is the message? I have a new conspiracy theory. 700 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: Nick Saban and Dion Sanders are in multiple ATHLAC commercials 701 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: together more than likely with connected agents. Uh huh. I 702 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: say that Nick Saban is endorsing Jackson State to top 703 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: recruits as an alternative to signing with Bama. Why Jackson 704 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: State becomes a farm team for Bama to poach second 705 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: to third year players when needed, plus any academic and 706 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: personal issues get worked out by Jackson State. Simply put, 707 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: Saban gets first DIBs on the JSU transfers and might 708 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: be able to request them to happen. 709 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 2: First of all, obviously not true. I love this energy here. 710 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 2: This is a energy message board. Energy. This is great. 711 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: This is great. Where there's no evidence, there's no logic, 712 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I can connect some dots 713 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 2: in my head where I'm like, I love where this 714 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: guy's head is at. Like it makes no sense, but 715 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 2: I just love where this guy or gal's head is at. 716 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 2: So I'm for this theory. Ty. 717 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: Do you remember we had Joel klad on the show, 718 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 1: and sure, and we called out that we had heard 719 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: from some folks that he may fashion himself a weird 720 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: college football conspiracy theorist on a few select topics. This 721 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: feels like a Platt type of thing. 722 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 2: You think Joel Klatt believes or potentially believes that Nick 723 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 2: Saban is steering top recruits to Jackson State based on 724 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: the fun he has with Deon Sanders filming commercials. 725 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's a possibility. 726 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,959 Speaker 2: Okay, I have no evidence otherwise, so I will say 727 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: I love your energy in theorizing that Joel Clatt may 728 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 2: buy into this theory. By the way, messageboard geniuses ranked 729 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: their top sites, and I think textags the legendary Texas 730 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: A and M site ran away with just in perusing 731 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: like there should be some sort of textags and maybe 732 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 2: this already exists, like a convention of some kind, like 733 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 2: a meeting of the minds, like in the way that 734 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 2: we have these international symposiums, whereas a politicians, well no, 735 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like Davos, yea, all like the world leaders 736 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: and like billionaires come together, like how can we enrich 737 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 2: the world? Like I think the top posters at textags 738 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 2: should be meeting up in some sort of symposium. I 739 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: love this idea, Like, here's one staff. Will we get 740 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 2: any more commitments before the December tenth weekend? This is 741 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 2: from ourtp Aggie. My wife is trying to plan her 742 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 2: schedule for the month. She likes to know which nights 743 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 2: we're getting a commitment, so she knows when I will 744 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 2: not be quote available for her on those nights. I 745 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: know y'all understand. I don't know if I do, but 746 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 2: I would love to learn more. Is he talking about 747 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 2: adventures romantically? Is he talking about like just helping out 748 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: around the house because he's going to be too ensconced 749 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: in the message board, in textags, learning about this new commitment, 750 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 2: watching tape, forming opinions about how this new commitment will 751 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: be involved in the depth chart and what his ceiling 752 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: will be for the aggies. I would love to know 753 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 2: all of these things. And you know what, as we 754 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: have both learned as married dudes, it's really good to 755 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,439 Speaker 2: give advanced warning when we have plans. Yeah. 756 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,319 Speaker 1: I think this is a thoughtful post. I think it's great. 757 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: I think it's it's thoughtful. 758 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: Do you have any friends who have gone down the 759 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: recruiting rabbit? Hole with Oregon specifically, Ah, I have a 760 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: friend who did I have a friend who with Notre Dame, 761 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: with Penn State. I'm not gonna say, okay, but you 762 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: have a friend who like has quote unquote sources and 763 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: is like deeply in that world. He doesn't have sources, 764 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: but he's very deep into this world. Okay, and he 765 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: may or may not have tweeted at recruits on multiple occasions. 766 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 2: We found it. 767 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: We didn't know as a larger group of friends how 768 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: to how to address this subject with this gentleman. Is 769 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: an intervention required? 770 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: What do we do if if somebody was going to games, 771 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: the high school games, not going. 772 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: Not going to high school games. He's got kid, that's 773 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: a level, man, that's a level. Definitely was following progress 774 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: throughout high school games, but not actually at the games physically. Okay. 775 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: This is definitely a vibe, definitely a vibe. 776 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: To be that integ It is great that you're altering 777 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: the schedule like that. 778 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 2: Uh, it's thoughtful. 779 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: It is overpoort, it's let's be real, it's a little much, 780 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: but I appreciate the commitment to the bit. 781 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 2: I like that it potentially is about him spending romantic 782 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 2: time with his wife that he is he is such 783 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: a force of nature that his wife needs to know 784 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: in advance when he's a fail, that she is like, Okay, 785 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: I have to prepare, I have to get ready for 786 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 2: this kind of thing. Yeah, I remember the intro. I 787 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 2: don't think this guy was like super involved, like down 788 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 2: deep in the wormhole. But I remember around two thousand 789 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: and two maybe he attended USC. A friend from high 790 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: school and he told me he was really excited because 791 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 2: like a five star offensive lineman was coming to USC Okay, 792 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: And my first thought was, wait, how do you know. 793 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 2: Isn't there just some big reveal who the new freshmen 794 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 2: are going to be? How would anybody know in advance 795 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: who an incoming? And I think it was Jeff Byers, 796 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 2: I want to say, an offensive lineman from I believe, Colorado. 797 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 2: But that was my first approach to college football recruiting, 798 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: being a thing like what he's got this intel and 799 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: then it just you know, went from there. And I 800 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 2: was in college at the time. 801 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,280 Speaker 1: I had no idea. 802 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, I know some people who've gotten pretty pretty 803 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: deep into it, but nothing on the level of this 804 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: post or attending high school games. What is your next message? 805 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,719 Speaker 1: My next message kind of akin to the wife and 806 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: being prepared. This is just a weird one from a 807 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: Virginia tech fan who says, quote can tell from those 808 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,319 Speaker 1: snug jeans referring to Brent pry that the dude's got 809 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: a hog. So mm of course sure, uh huh. No, 810 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: My actual one is a post from a Georgia fan. 811 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: Do you not want to talk about the Virginia tech fan? 812 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really much to add. 813 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm not asking you to add to that 814 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 2: specific visual in that thought. 815 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: But okay, the question is a. 816 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,360 Speaker 2: Hold on indulge me. It's almost February. The question is 817 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: this Virginia tech fan is looking at Brent priz'e snug 818 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 2: we said jeans pants whatever, he's wearing jeans and said 819 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: he's got a huge hog, which great, good for him, 820 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: whether it's true or not. What is the extrapolation, like, 821 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 2: what is the cowherd level thinking? Okay, this is who 822 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: Brent Priye is physically, this is what it means, Like 823 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 2: he's going to go for it on more fourth downs, 824 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: He's going to be more aggressive, He's going to have 825 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 2: more testosterone about his work, like he is going to 826 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 2: have more confidence as a recruiter wearing these types of pants, Like, 827 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: what is the cowhard level extrapolation. 828 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you're the one wearing the tinfoil hat. I 829 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: am wearing the tinfoilhut. I guess the extrapolation is that observation, 830 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: combined with the fact that he's got a very strong 831 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: hairline his te levels may lead to the conclusion that 832 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: there's a lot of masculinity there. Of course, perhaps that 833 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: will in some way drive the Virginia Tech program forward. 834 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm making this up on the float. 835 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 2: I'm just wondering what the excitement is around that as 836 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: it relates, or it's just an observation, or just like 837 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: we got to get to know this new guy. Here's 838 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 2: some facts about Brent Prye has called really good defenses 839 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 2: at Penn State, has a history in the mid Atlantic region, 840 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 2: can walk into a room and impress you depending on 841 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 2: the tightness of his pants. Like, I don't know, I 842 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: love again love the energy here. 843 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: Let me go over to ugussports dot com. This is 844 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: about Stetson Bennett and I saw this and I was like, 845 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: that's funny. I kind of get it. Quote I love 846 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,840 Speaker 1: the kid, and he was forever be a champion. Not 847 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: great grammar, but our defense just carried this team to 848 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: a national championship. Next year, our offense will have to 849 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: be far more dynamic as a defense reloads, and we 850 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: all know Stetson and it isn't the guy to make 851 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: that happen. For his sake and for our programs, I 852 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: hope he rides off into the sunset. It's time to 853 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: see what one of the young guys can do. I 854 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: don't hate this general conspiracy, but yeah, I don't hate 855 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:23,320 Speaker 1: the sentiment because look, stets and Bennet got better. Stets 856 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: and Bennett won a national championship. Stets and Bennett was. 857 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 2: Good in this game. Yes, uh, he finished it well. 858 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: Finished first three quarters I would say were pretty dicey. 859 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: Finished it well, but got the job done. Definitely improved 860 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: from last year this year. I understand where this is 861 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: coming from. This is coming from the same place that 862 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,240 Speaker 1: my Ian book sentiment came from a year ago, which 863 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,439 Speaker 1: is he's good, he's great, he won a lot of games, 864 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: in this case, won a national championship, and never gonna 865 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: be able to take that away from him. There is 866 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: a very clear ceiling. Mm hmm. There's a very clear ceiling. 867 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: So if you're a Georgia fan, and if you're looking 868 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 1: at the recruiting class, and if you've got you know, 869 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: a brock and like all these guys coming in, I 870 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: understand wanting to know, would somebody else give us a 871 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: higher ceiling on offense because clearly that's the area where 872 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: Georgia needs to improve next seme, So I get it, 873 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 1: I get it. I would also say, maybe take. 874 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 2: A beat to enjoy that you won the national championship. 875 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: Now I love this, turn the page. 876 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 2: But it's always about the next game. What are we 877 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: going to do next? This is what sport are we 878 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 2: talking about here? 879 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: Ty? So from that standpoint, I'm wearing the hat. Maybe 880 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,439 Speaker 1: it's getting into my brain, but I understand the logic here. 881 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 1: I'm okay with I'm totally with it. 882 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree with it, but I appreciate it 883 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 2: because this is like college football distilled into a series 884 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 2: of letters and spaces that sure, this guy did something 885 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 2: that no modern quarterback has done in forty years for 886 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,280 Speaker 2: our program, surrounded by great talent, with a great defense, 887 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. But the argument could also be 888 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 2: made that Stetson Bennett was much more consistently good than 889 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: any other modern Georgia quarterback, Like he didn't throw in 890 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 2: the sheer number of dud games that guys like Matt 891 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: Stafford or Aaron Murray or whoever Jake from Jake Eason 892 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 2: threw in as starters at at Georgia. But at the 893 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 2: same time you're seduced by the what if you're seduced 894 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 2: by the future. You know what you have in Stetson Bennett. 895 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 2: You don't know what you have in like Brock vandergriff 896 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 2: or whoever the next guy is for Georgia. And so 897 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 2: I'm okay with this. I don't think it's insane at all. 898 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 2: I think it's consistent with what we what we know 899 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 2: about the sport, so I appreciate it with it Red 900 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 2: Raidersports dot Com from Reckham four thirty two, my cousin 901 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: sells weed in Southlake, a very nice area of Austin, 902 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 2: and he said Quinn and his buddy Brady Boyd wide 903 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 2: receiver at Minnesota are one hundred percent confirmed to the 904 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 2: eight oh six. The eight oh six area code, just 905 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 2: to be clear, appears to be Northwest Texas where Lubbock 906 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 2: is hand in South Plains, including the cities of Amarillo 907 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 2: and Lubbock. Quen You weres not signed sealed delivered to 908 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 2: Texas Tech. Correct that that's per my latest understanding of 909 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 2: the portal. 910 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: Yes. 911 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if you have rankings in terms 912 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: of like here are the trustworthy sources? Is a weed 913 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 2: dealer top five, top ten? Because some people are going 914 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 2: to know there are always going to be whispers out 915 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 2: there that like Bruce Feldman or Nicole Auerback or Pete 916 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 2: Fammel are not hip too. We're always going to have 917 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: those people who know well in advance. This guy failed 918 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 2: the drug test, this guy's flunking out of school, this 919 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 2: guy's transferring, this guy hates the coach, this guy's dad 920 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 2: hates the coach. Whatever, there's always going to be like 921 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 2: and those are correct. Those are good sources with good information. 922 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 2: I would just like to figure out how trustworthy a 923 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,879 Speaker 2: weed dealer, because if said weed dealer is the weed 924 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 2: dealer of people within the program and they trust him 925 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 2: or her for whatever reason with transfer information or like 926 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 2: this guy's coming, that's pretty cool. Didn't work out in 927 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 2: this scenario. This dealer is oh for something, But. 928 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. 929 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 2: I like that this poster is has hit the streets 930 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 2: in terms of figuring out where the murmurs and whispers 931 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 2: is sharing that pounding the pavement. A Woodward Bernstein of 932 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 2: the message board generation, I'm good with it. It didn't 933 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 2: work out, but he took a shot. 934 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: He took a. 935 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 2: Shot and sharing some intel that didn't work out. Still 936 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 2: good with it. 937 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: Here's one from the Michigan faithful Dan. Yeah, Michigan came 938 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: in flat happy to be there. I think he's talking 939 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: about the play off, bad game plan, poor adjustments in 940 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: the game, just got away, good season, but Michigan should 941 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: be playing Bama for the title. Mm hmm. All these 942 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: analysts is garbage about Michigan getting a taste of elite. 943 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 2: Nope, too bad. 944 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: Hopefully next time they are better prepared. The implication here 945 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,800 Speaker 1: is that Georgia is still a second fiddle to Michigan, 946 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: that Michigan is better than the Dragon Bulldogs, despite the 947 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: fact that this. We watched that game, so this. 948 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 2: Can happen, right, and Bill Connolly has a metric about 949 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,840 Speaker 2: second order wins where there are games in which because 950 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 2: of weird occurrences or maybe that's you know, freak freak 951 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 2: injuries or whatever where it's just like, man, this team 952 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 2: looks like they should have won. They seem to have 953 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 2: dominated the game. But whether it was special teams miscues 954 00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 2: or a couple uncharacteristic explosion plays, whatever, this other team won. 955 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 2: Was there any part of you after watching Michigan Georgia 956 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,399 Speaker 2: that no, you that you sat back and said, man, 957 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 2: I just I think Georgia was smoking mirrors there? 958 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: No, No, this is a very common message board posting. 959 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 2: By the way, we were the better team. Yeah, yeah, 960 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 2: of course, very common. I can't get on board with this. 961 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: No. 962 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate the attempt, and I think it can apply 963 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 2: to certain matchups. I'm not I'm not in this, not 964 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 2: in this situation. 965 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: Uh. 966 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 2: This is from seventy three, really seventy three on horns 967 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 2: two four seven. If you're on the board anywhere, PK 968 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,240 Speaker 2: Pete Kwitkowski, defensive coordinator, Texas. I'll be at Austin this week. 969 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 2: Let's blanking throw down. If I win, you get the 970 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,160 Speaker 2: blank out of Texas and go back to the West Coast. 971 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 2: If you win, you can stay and quote coach, you're 972 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:55,839 Speaker 2: bleeping too high safety defense spoiler alerts. I'm gonna kick 973 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 2: your bleep bleep. 974 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,399 Speaker 1: You. Let's settle this like Men by the Bleachers made 975 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: in Temecula. Yeah. 976 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. So should more coaching decisions come down to whether 977 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 2: or not a coordinator can defeat a specific message board poster. 978 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm not totally against it its content. 979 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 2: Should the more savvy coaches out there, assistants, head coaches 980 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 2: or whatever, do anonymous town halls with message boards so 981 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 2: Pete Pitkowski would at least be offered a chance to 982 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 2: respond to seventy three really seventy three and perhaps reveal 983 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 2: his own martial arts background or fighting background so that 984 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,280 Speaker 2: everybody could know. And I'm not saying they should settle 985 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 2: it this way, like I don't think scheme decisions should 986 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 2: be based on an ability to defeat a message board 987 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 2: poster in hand to hand combat. I don't, but I 988 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 2: think there should be considerations. I think that if it's 989 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 2: decided that we know about the background, the fighting background 990 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,360 Speaker 2: is seventy three, and we learned about the fighting background 991 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 2: of Pete Kwakowski, I don't think. 992 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 1: They should fight. 993 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,239 Speaker 2: But I think if Pete Quickowski knows that he's physically outmanned, 994 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,479 Speaker 2: that he listened to seventy three in this town hall 995 00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 2: and not necessarily implement, but at least listen to his suggestions. 996 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 2: If he finds out that seventy three is in fact 997 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 2: a trained killer of some kind, I mean, I guess 998 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 2: the flip he's going to have to prove his bona fides. 999 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,240 Speaker 2: The flip side would be somebody on an LSU message 1000 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 2: board wanting to fight Coacho, which is a tough beat. 1001 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 2: I don't think you want to fight Coacho. Know don't know. 1002 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what his level of training is. I 1003 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: have seen his intensity on the sidelines, and we've read 1004 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 1: about his intensity for years. I feel like you only 1005 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 1: post this if you feel like you have a decent chance, 1006 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 1: or at least you shouldn't post it unless you have 1007 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: a decent chance. 1008 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,680 Speaker 2: Now, let's just assume this lady or gentleman is chemically 1009 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,959 Speaker 2: altered and felt especially brave and challenging via message board 1010 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,959 Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator to a fight. But at the same time, 1011 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 2: I appreciate the like heads up, like here is when 1012 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in Austin the assumption that Peklekowski's trolling 1013 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 2: the message board or peakless people are trolling the message board, 1014 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 2: here is my schedule with which you can use the information, 1015 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 2: however you want to set up a fight. Also, I 1016 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,880 Speaker 2: don't like that he didn't set up the parameters of 1017 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 2: the fight. Are they boxing? Is it no holds barred? 1018 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 2: What is probably no choice? I think it's I think 1019 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,760 Speaker 2: it's bar style fighting. Anything goes, I think so, Yeah, 1020 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 2: eye gouging, nutshots, whatever. 1021 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,959 Speaker 1: Is Johnny Cash, it's boy named Sue, it's you know, okay, 1022 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 1: you got the pocket knife? 1023 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 2: Whatever, whatever. I just think he's so organized with like 1024 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 2: letting Pete Kokowski know when he's gonna be in town. 1025 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 2: He might have an idea of like the ideal way 1026 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 2: to fight because he's kind of being a gentleman about 1027 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,359 Speaker 2: it in a backwards way. 1028 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,879 Speaker 1: Hey, what's our theory on coaches actually reading message boards. 1029 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 2: Of them or their people or family members? 1030 00:53:59,719 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: Do? 1031 00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? I agree. There is somebody in the the Alabama program, 1032 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 2: in the Clemson program, in the Ohio State program monitoring, 1033 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 2: And I guess this is like a succession reference, like 1034 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 2: they're they're they're monitoring the temperature of the digital fan base. 1035 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: It was it was told to me by a mutual 1036 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,879 Speaker 1: friend of ours, uh, somebody who who pedals in much 1037 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: of these coaching rumors that one hundred percent of the time, 1038 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: they know everything being said about them. For as confident 1039 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,319 Speaker 1: as they may come across on the surface, they're all 1040 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,720 Speaker 1: terribly insecure and know everything that's being said about them always. 1041 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 1: So now just assume that they have people who are monitoring. Yeah, okay, 1042 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 1: what do you have next? 1043 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,240 Speaker 2: This is from what is this site? 1044 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:52,760 Speaker 1: This is from a BAMA site Bama Online titled Katie Freakin' 1045 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:57,839 Speaker 1: Perry We are zero and two when she is affiliated 1046 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 1: with one of our games. First all missed. Now this 1047 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: please never again. I can get behind this. You know, 1048 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm very superstitious. 1049 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where that goes. 1050 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a tie and this is speaking right 1051 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 1: into the heart of me as a college football fan. Yeah, 1052 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: for a long time, I would not pick Notre Dame 1053 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: to win on this podcast to cover a point spread. 1054 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,959 Speaker 1: I tried the reverse jinks. I quit the day job. 1055 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,160 Speaker 1: I decided, Okay, we're gonna start a new chapter. We're 1056 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 1: not gonna do that Notre Dame one eleven and one. 1057 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: And I didn't really even think twice about should I 1058 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: be picking should I not be picking? Here? I just 1059 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: made a full break from it, and it worked out 1060 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 1: okay for me. There are still many other aspects of 1061 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 1: my life where you know, if there's something that maybe 1062 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: gives me a little bit of discomfort around the decision, 1063 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 1: if maybe the universe is sending me an odd sign, 1064 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 1: I just kind of cautiously back away from that. I 1065 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 1: appreciate this. I appreciate that they're posting this, and it 1066 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,760 Speaker 1: may have been a tongue in cheek post. 1067 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,839 Speaker 2: For me, it would have been. 1068 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: I have long said that the green jersey games for 1069 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,759 Speaker 1: Notre Dame football, even though the numbers don't back me up, 1070 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,399 Speaker 1: curse it. Yeah, the green jerseys are cursed. Man, don't 1071 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: wear the green jersey. 1072 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 2: I get it's a novelty. 1073 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,399 Speaker 1: I get it. 1074 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 2: Stick to what works. 1075 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 1: The current uniforms are working fine. You don't need to 1076 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: do the green jersey thing and freak me out. And 1077 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: so I appreciate the black cat that is Katy Perry 1078 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: here in this case. I appreciate the the anxiety that 1079 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,280 Speaker 1: it might provoke among the fan base. This is totally 1080 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: something I can get on board with. 1081 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 2: Look if Alabama, he says Alabama, right, the Alabama fan 1082 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 2: base oz and two there she was at the Old 1083 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 2: Miss game and talked about Trevor Knight and all sorts 1084 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 2: of stuff. If they have bad blood with Katie Perry, 1085 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 2: you got to go after the other side of bad blood, 1086 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 2: do you not? You gotta get t Swift on game day, 1087 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 2: be solution oriented. I believe that's who bad Blood is about, 1088 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 2: right it was. 1089 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 1: But then they did a video together and I think 1090 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: they buried defenses. Yeah, they buried the hatchet. That's too bad. 1091 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 2: And again I think T Swift lives in Tennessee. I 1092 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: think she lives. 1093 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 1: She lives in one day, So does she. You're you've 1094 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,200 Speaker 1: been following close than I have. Yeah, that's what I'm 1095 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,160 Speaker 1: told for my sources, Okay, but I don't for sure. 1096 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie Perry's tough man, She's tough, staying power, I 1097 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 2: would say, as we've talked about, Uh, next one I have, 1098 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with Texas here because. 1099 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 1: The's just so good. 1100 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 2: Uh. This is from Brazil Horn. I don't know which 1101 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 2: Texas site this is from. It's not on this screen grab. 1102 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 2: I hope Baylor Stadium gets foreclosed on in the Magnolia 1103 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 2: f heads buy it for pennies on the dollar, cover 1104 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 2: it in ship lap, and hang barn doors over the entrances. 1105 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 2: Then make it. This is my word a crappy, but 1106 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm substituting B and B. 1107 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that level of intensity. 1108 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 2: Well, it's so specific because the local knowledge is strong, Yeah, 1109 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 2: that they know that this poster brazil Horn, perhaps all 1110 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,959 Speaker 2: the way from South Powell is making reference to Chip 1111 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 2: and Joanna. I don't know if I've actually watched the show, 1112 00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 2: but I've seen pictures of extras stories about ours fixer upper. 1113 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 2: I have not been in the stadium. I don't know 1114 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 2: whether or not ship lap and barn doors that like 1115 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 2: fake vintage farmhouse look would improve it. It's relatively new, 1116 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 2: but I appreciate the specificity of that kind of message 1117 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 2: board anger, even though it doesn't fully make sense, because 1118 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 2: I think that would only encourage more and more people 1119 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 2: to be excited within the stadium because apparently their store 1120 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 2: in Texas is like the most popular tourist destination in 1121 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 2: the state, right, So that would just get people jumping 1122 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 2: and getting in line for Baylor tickets to make a 1123 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 2: ton of noise in that stadium. So yeah, I appreciate it. 1124 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 2: It's it's sort of off the beaten path as a 1125 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 2: trash talking subject, but I'm good with it. We drove 1126 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 2: past it. 1127 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: We drove past it on our journey from Austin up 1128 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 1: to Dallas before one of our life shows a couple 1129 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: of years ago. Now it feels like an eternity, you go, 1130 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: because we haven't done live shows forever. I thirty five, 1131 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 1: if I want to say correctly, we were driving past it. 1132 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 1: We drove past it in the daylight, and yeah, I 1133 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: was not impressed by it. 1134 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 2: From Afar, it did not well, it didn't do much 1135 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 2: for me, but we weren't inside. 1136 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: We weren't inside, and people who are who I've been inside, 1137 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: say it's it's a fun place to watch a game. 1138 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: And I will try to stay objective. I would just 1139 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: say from Afar, driving past at like seventy five miles 1140 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 1: an hour, it was it was sort of unspectacular to me. 1141 00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 1: That being said that this is a different level of intensity. 1142 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: It is, but I like the local knowledge. I think 1143 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: if you're going to trash talk a stadium, if you're 1144 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: going to trash talk a fan base, I know Baylor 1145 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: fans are particularly proud of the new stadium, and they 1146 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: should be. This is the level of intensity I think 1147 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: that you need. 1148 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,640 Speaker 2: Okay, what do you have next? 1149 00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: I've got one here from USC fans. Oh love that. Yes, 1150 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 1: this is some good forward thinking with Brian Kelly out 1151 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: at Notre Dame. I don't see a loss on the schedule. 1152 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: If you go undefeed it win the Pac twelve, we 1153 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 1: are in the playoffs. No way in the world the 1154 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: networks would give up the LA TV market, Dan, the 1155 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 1: budding LA college football TV market, which we never talk 1156 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: about in the program for good reasons. Not seeing a 1157 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: loss on the schedule is another one of those common 1158 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 1: strokes among message board posters. People who look at a schedule, 1159 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 1: they look at the surroundings going into a new season, 1160 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: and are just very bullish on the team comically. So, 1161 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,919 Speaker 1: of course, talk to me about USC's depth chart, talk 1162 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: to me about this roster. Obviously, if they get Caleb Williams, 1163 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: that'd be a pretty big boon. They already got Mary Williams, 1164 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: the transfer wide out from Oklahoma, So Lincoln Riley's doing 1165 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 1: a good job. But also got a bunch of guys 1166 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: transferring in. Yeah, but also so it's not as if 1167 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,760 Speaker 1: the cabinet is fully stocked and ready for a national 1168 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 1: championship run in twenty twenty two. 1169 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 2: Am I right in saying that I see losses. So 1170 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 2: Notre Dame is if you're looking at the schedule, Notre 1171 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 2: Dame is the end of the season, right, Yeah, So 1172 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 2: they have Notre Dame with we don't even know who 1173 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,160 Speaker 2: the starting quarterback is going to be. They're at UCLA. 1174 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 2: It's in La but at Ucla who they just got destroyed. 1175 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:27,600 Speaker 1: By, right correct? 1176 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 2: This past year. They've got a Colorado team that's kind 1177 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:34,640 Speaker 2: of floundering cal who knows, Arizona improving at Utah. At 1178 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 2: Utah's a penciled in win the pactal champ with their 1179 01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 2: returning started quarterback. Okay, at Utah, we've got Wazoo at home, 1180 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 2: Arizona State at home, Oregon State on the road. Remind 1181 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 2: me who won that game last year? I believe the comfortably? Yeah, yeah, 1182 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 2: Fresno State with Jeff Tedford who's back baby, he's back. 1183 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 2: Rice in Stanford. They don't too much for me regard 1184 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 2: like if u SC somehow runs the table, they run 1185 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 2: the table. I don't see it. I think there's at 1186 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 2: least three or probably two or three four losses whatever, 1187 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 2: because it's year one and it's just difficult to win 1188 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 2: big right away when you don't have the depth to 1189 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 2: do so. But it is the Pac twelve, and they 1190 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,960 Speaker 2: don't have a challenging game in the non conference part 1191 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 2: of the early schedule. They notre Dame to finish, So 1192 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 2: I am not taking this seriously. I wonder, though, does 1193 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,240 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley in LA? In LAX? Does he pass the 1194 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 2: Hudson News test in LA? Yeah? He does? In Norman? 1195 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? 1196 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City he does. In Norman he does. 1197 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: In doubts he probably does in it. Yeah. 1198 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 2: I think I think he would be recognized in most 1199 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 2: large airports, mid size airports near major college football hubs, definitely. 1200 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 2: I don't know about Philly, No, no, but I'm saying 1201 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 2: Philly's not a major college football But LA is interesting 1202 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 2: to me, Like you'd be recognized in the Nashville Airport, 1203 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 2: in the Charlotte Airport, Birmingham, Atlanta. Yeah, but LA is 1204 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 2: sort of a different animal, isn't it. It's it's a 1205 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 2: different level of big game. If you're hunting for celebrities 1206 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 2: at LAX, then in Norman, Oklahoma. 1207 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like would TMZ if they were not tipped off 1208 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: to his flight landing at LAX, would one of their 1209 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,600 Speaker 1: like photographers or producers instantly. 1210 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 2: Be like, oh, that's the USC coach. Like, is Lincoln 1211 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 2: Riley one of the five hundred most famous people in LA? 1212 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 2: Is he one of the most two hundred three? 1213 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: Like? 1214 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 2: Is he the four hundred and forty seventh most famous 1215 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 2: person in his college town? See, you're the West Coast guy. 1216 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I have no context for LA. I don't think he 1217 01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: is interesting. He's getting paid handsomely, he is. But the 1218 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 1: Hudson News test, So here's the Hudson News test for 1219 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: people wondering. Yeah, the Hudson News test is, and we 1220 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 1: said this all the time about Clay Hilton. Yeah, the 1221 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Hudson News test is, if your college football coach is 1222 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 1: out and about and you saw him at a Hudson 1223 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: News in an airport or a train station or anywhere 1224 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,080 Speaker 1: around the world where there are Hudson newses, would you 1225 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: recognize him or would he be recognized by a random 1226 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 1: passer by at that Hudson News Clay Hilton almost certainly 1227 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 1: would not be. 1228 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 2: No, and we cover the sport, I'm not. 1229 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 1: Sure we would recognize him. Lincoln Riley, I think we would, 1230 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 1: But would the average passer by the average person. 1231 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 2: Here's here's oh man, we're gonna pile on Clay Heelton. 1232 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 2: There's no reason too. Everybody seems to like him personally. 1233 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 2: If we were at a Mexican restaurant in Saint Louis, Okay, 1234 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 2: and Clay Hilton came over to our table and said, 1235 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 2: is everything okay? And he was dressed like a manager. 1236 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 2: You guys having a good time those Enchalada's hitting. I 1237 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,440 Speaker 2: think I might just say, yeah, it's great, thanks. I 1238 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 2: don't know. 1239 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 1: I don't think we would know that it's him. 1240 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 2: Like if you went to go buy a new Mazda 1241 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 2: and Clay Hilton were on the showroom floor and he 1242 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 2: said you interested in gas? Are you interested in hybrid? 1243 01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 2: Would you look at him and be like, I'm sorry, 1244 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 2: is that former USC head coach Clay Helton? Or would 1245 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 2: you say, oh, we're looking I add a third row, 1246 01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 2: got a big dog, And. 1247 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. Just asking questions, TI, I'm just asking questions. 1248 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 2: The marketplace of ideas. 1249 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got so many. 1250 01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 2: I don't know how long I bought this show to 1251 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 2: be This could be our best or worst show ever. 1252 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1253 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,479 Speaker 2: We've got a Clemson post about it is not even 1254 01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 2: the least bit suspicious that our problems on offense started 1255 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 2: just after the herb Street Twins walked into the walked 1256 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 2: onto the football team. I feel like we are executing 1257 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 2: brilliantly on offense, but the other team simply has the 1258 01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 2: plays snuffed out before they begin. So this gentleman or 1259 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,479 Speaker 2: lady tiger Baum one is suggesting, right, there's a mole 1260 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 2: that one of the herb Street twins is leaking the 1261 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 2: offensive game planer. Both are in conjunction with one another. 1262 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 2: And then he goes on to say, I know that 1263 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,680 Speaker 2: I have mocked some of you in the past with 1264 01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 2: this ESPN paranoia crap, but this thing is starting to 1265 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,440 Speaker 2: take legs. It would not surprise me one bit that 1266 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 2: e SCPN would stoop this low to damage our program. 1267 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,720 Speaker 1: Laugh all you like, wow, So we're talking full on 1268 01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:43,840 Speaker 1: Herbie leaks. Here is what we're talking about. 1269 01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 2: We're talking Herbie leaks. We're saying that ESPN has such 1270 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 2: a pronounced vendetta against Clemson naturally because they are not 1271 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 2: in the sec that Kirk herb Street, analysts of the 1272 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 2: bugest analyst in the sport, has employed his two sons 1273 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:11,320 Speaker 2: to get him the game plan in writing. I guess 1274 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 2: or just here's how did they. 1275 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 1: Do how did they do it at Louisville. Louisville with 1276 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 1: what the whole waki. 1277 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 2: Links thing, right, Well, that was the announcer, right, Okay, 1278 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 2: that was an announcer that had access to some sort 1279 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 2: of game plans tipping off calls or signals or something 1280 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,439 Speaker 2: like that. So the herb Street Twins, I guess would 1281 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 2: know the signals and would know the calls and the 1282 01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 2: adjustments and the opening script or something like that. But man, 1283 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 2: I for one, am fully on board. I am fully 1284 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:50,760 Speaker 2: on board with this being a worthwhile conspiracy to pull 1285 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 2: on the string to see where it leads. 1286 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: Is this? I mean they got to be using signal 1287 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: or some sort of encrypted app. I would assume you 1288 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 1: would think. So these are gens the kids at this point, 1289 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:07,560 Speaker 1: m they know how to get around the system. I 1290 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: love the energy with which this was posted. Oh my god, 1291 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 1: it's great. This post is long enough that it was 1292 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,800 Speaker 1: not written tongue in cheek. Oh yeah, this is somebody. 1293 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 2: Who honest, he went on to say, like laugh all 1294 01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 2: you like, but connect the dots people. This is somebody 1295 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 2: who's into it. I love this. 1296 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,880 Speaker 1: I am not on board with this is a real thing, 1297 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 1: but on board with this energy. I love it. 1298 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 2: I love the full denial of any sort of accountability 1299 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:37,160 Speaker 2: that the offensive line has struggled and a young quarterback 1300 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 2: has struggled, and the play calling has been pretty woeful, 1301 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,719 Speaker 2: and the assistant hiring has been probably loyal to a fault. 1302 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 2: Like there is a there is a full dedication and 1303 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:56,599 Speaker 2: buy into Clemson football that it must be the outsiders, right, 1304 01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 2: it must be this, this chemical element added to the 1305 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:09,880 Speaker 2: otherwise pure elixir that has changed the foundation and success. 1306 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: I love it. 1307 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 2: I love that sort of blind dedication, and so I'm 1308 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 2: okay with it, all right. So we're running short on time. 1309 01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,040 Speaker 2: Is a long show. 1310 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,679 Speaker 1: I've got one, maybe two more that I can do here. 1311 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,840 Speaker 2: You want me to do best of my remainings? 1312 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you want me to do Kansas joining the SEC? 1313 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 1: Do you want me to do Clemson doing it the 1314 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 1: right way? The Raiders not interested in Jim Harbaugh. Billy 1315 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Napier nixing a lazy river. 1316 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:38,599 Speaker 2: I like that one. 1317 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:42,320 Speaker 1: That's recent. Yeah, so, Billy Napier. There were apparently plans 1318 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 1: as part of Florida's renovation effort to build a lazy 1319 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: river in the football facility and This gentleman says that 1320 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,800 Speaker 1: getting rid of the Lazy River in the new facilities 1321 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 1: to strike one, it was a real selling point. 1322 01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 1323 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Now, I did see there was some fallout to this 1324 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:06,080 Speaker 1: posting by the boor geniuses, i e. Folks within the 1325 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 1: Florida community who don't like the poster and don't want 1326 01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 1: anything to do with the poster. They're disassociating and the 1327 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,160 Speaker 1: message board geniuses account and people are a person who 1328 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,479 Speaker 1: runs it is very quick to say we understand that 1329 01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,640 Speaker 1: these are isolated thoughts, not the full reflection of an 1330 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: entire fan base, all right, And that's also a very 1331 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,320 Speaker 1: important point here that we should man. Of course, these 1332 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,360 Speaker 1: are by no means representative of entire fan bases. These 1333 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,640 Speaker 1: are very much extreme examples. That's why this Twitter account. 1334 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 2: But it's representative of fringe college football fans. All of 1335 01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,719 Speaker 2: these are within the realm of fringe college football thinking, 1336 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 2: for sure, is a lazy river, is a ball pit 1337 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 2: is to Clemson? 1338 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:48,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1339 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 2: A LSU sleep pod, the dentist's office at Oregon, the barbershop? 1340 01:10:54,840 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? Are any of these things such deal breakers that 1341 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 1: if you're a five star recruit, it is going to 1342 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: alter your decision making process. 1343 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's a wow factor thing. It's not 1344 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 2: that you're selecting a school because of the slide or 1345 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,640 Speaker 2: the putt putt course, or the barber shop or the 1346 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:23,920 Speaker 2: lazy river. It's the wow factor of this place is luxury. 1347 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,680 Speaker 2: This place is treating its players in a way that 1348 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 2: is not consistent with the lower level schools recruiting me. 1349 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,200 Speaker 2: Lazy river is a wow factor item tie. I can't 1350 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,599 Speaker 2: deny that. Like, I come across very few places that 1351 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 2: offer their own lazy rivers. 1352 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:43,439 Speaker 1: I have googled how much it would cost to build 1353 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: my own lazy river. I have I told you this, 1354 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 1: of course, as we all have. I would love to 1355 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,880 Speaker 1: have a lazy river. I think it's it's by far 1356 01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: the most underrated of all water park attractions. 1357 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,280 Speaker 2: So where how would you employ a lazy river on 1358 01:11:58,320 --> 01:11:58,959 Speaker 2: your property? 1359 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,880 Speaker 1: I have no idea. There's no way I could. I 1360 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:03,599 Speaker 1: just it would cost more than I'm worth for sure. 1361 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,120 Speaker 1: So I get the allure of the laser river. I 1362 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 1: like the lore of the lazier river. I just don't 1363 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 1: think it's that big a deal. I just like, like, 1364 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:20,360 Speaker 1: maybe buy some extra iPads or virtual reality goggles or 1365 01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,200 Speaker 1: something that's not as extreme as the lazy River. I 1366 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,120 Speaker 1: just don't see that as a huge selling point. 1367 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 2: No again, though, it's wow factor. It's you've seen the rest, 1368 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 2: Now come play for the best and chill out in 1369 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,679 Speaker 2: an inner tube around the facility during your free time. 1370 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm okay with it. I'm okay with bemoaning the loss 1371 01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 2: of a potential lazy river because it's it's a differentiating factor. 1372 01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 2: I'm not on board with that. 1373 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,920 Speaker 1: Right that we agree to disagree. 1374 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 2: All right, give me your final one. This is from 1375 01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:54,599 Speaker 2: a there's a Kansas state posting about eating too much 1376 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 2: potato salad causing diarrhea. I think that's sort of self evident, 1377 01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 2: like monitor how much potato salad you eat because you 1378 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 2: never know what it's going to do to your system 1379 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 2: and how you'll respond to having too much potato salad. 1380 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 2: I've got a post about the Chicago mafia getting involved 1381 01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,840 Speaker 2: with Illinois beating Nebraska. 1382 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:13,639 Speaker 1: Okay. 1383 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 2: I've got an Auburn fan saying they should build a 1384 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 2: statue to Gus to honor Gus Malson. It's pretty good. 1385 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,160 Speaker 2: I've got a post from a Clem Clemson in Texas. 1386 01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 2: A and M do not get enough credit for having 1387 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,519 Speaker 2: these magical homes on the internet, and I wish they 1388 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 2: would like create an annual game like ditch South Carolina, 1389 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 2: ditch the hopes of Texas A and M playing Texas 1390 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,280 Speaker 2: and set up a Texas A and M Clemson rivalry 1391 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 2: we need for. 1392 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 1: We need the Clemson A and M metaverse is what 1393 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: we need. 1394 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,560 Speaker 2: I've got Ohio State an Ohio State poster on Bucknuts, 1395 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,559 Speaker 2: which appears to be the twenty four to seven site 1396 01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:55,479 Speaker 2: saying Tate Martel was the curse? Serious question? What if 1397 01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,679 Speaker 2: he was our next guy? This was posted. I don't 1398 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 2: have a date when this was posted. He can throw, 1399 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 2: he can run, he can maybe be what's needed to 1400 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 2: get our offense over the hill. C J. Stroud can't run, 1401 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 2: but he can throw. Our offense is based on the 1402 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 2: quarterbacks ability to do it all, and currently we have 1403 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 2: an elite passer but not a non existent runner. How 1404 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 2: well might a Martel? How well might Tate Martell have 1405 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 2: done in this offense with Day at his side? Tate 1406 01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 2: Martell last scene playing consistently a receiver for Miami. I 1407 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 2: think as a backup at UNLV. 1408 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,960 Speaker 1: Yes, correct, that's correct. 1409 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, hard to see that being the answer my final 1410 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:35,719 Speaker 2: full question from Brady. So it might be an actual 1411 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,840 Speaker 2: person named Brady. Can a school buy a player from 1412 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:43,599 Speaker 2: another school? It's the subject. It wouldn't be paying the player, 1413 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 2: but a school to school transaction. They can use the 1414 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 2: money to add on to stadiums or buy many players 1415 01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:51,879 Speaker 2: through raising tuition. 1416 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 1: This is full on transfer i e. English Premier League. 1417 01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 2: It's borderline human trafficking, is I'm reading this. Instead of recruiting, 1418 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:08,120 Speaker 2: we should just buy the best players already playing. So 1419 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,800 Speaker 2: let's give it the way it deserves, which is obviously none. 1420 01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 2: But so people are going to say, this is not 1421 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 2: a joke, this is not funny, this is nil. This 1422 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,479 Speaker 2: is where we are heading right, This is this is 1423 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 2: the slippery slope that the solid verbal boulder is rolling down. 1424 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:35,000 Speaker 2: So could Clemson arrange deals with other schools? So explain 1425 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 2: EPL Like the top clubs can go to other clubs 1426 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 2: or lower level clubs who are perhaps more cash strapped 1427 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 2: and money hungry, and say look, we're gonna we're gonna 1428 01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,719 Speaker 2: buy the rights to this player for a certain amount 1429 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 2: of time and then return that player after that time something. 1430 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a whole host of different ways you 1431 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,559 Speaker 2: could do it. You could buy a guy for a 1432 01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 2: certain period of time. That's called a loan, right you 1433 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:03,680 Speaker 2: can you can loan a guy out, yep. And you 1434 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 2: can also just straight up by a guy if you've 1435 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,479 Speaker 2: got the money. If you've got a player, then you 1436 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 2: know it's not working out in one place, or maybe 1437 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,320 Speaker 2: it'll work out better in yours. You can just go 1438 01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 2: out and pay the transfer fee and then you own 1439 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 2: the rights to that player. And so it is very transactional. 1440 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,840 Speaker 2: There are many clubs out there who have made small 1441 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 2: fortunes doing this by having a good scouting department, by 1442 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 2: bringing in top talent, by selling them for you know, 1443 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 2: a factor eight x ten x of what they initially paid, 1444 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 2: and then they use the money for something else, either 1445 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 2: players or facilities, or you know, any number of different things. 1446 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 2: So it's very much a soccer philosophy. So my question 1447 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,320 Speaker 2: to you is, let's again, let's take this seriously. The 1448 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,080 Speaker 2: obvious upgrade that Clemson could have used in purchasing another 1449 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 2: player again, couldn't have this player making the money on 1450 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:58,559 Speaker 2: this transaction? The team, the program, the school. Can you 1451 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,080 Speaker 2: said money right that they need the money to improve 1452 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 2: their stadium or you know, hit their recruiting budget or 1453 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 2: their travel budget, whatever uniform budget. If Clemson were to 1454 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,559 Speaker 2: pay Western Kentucky for Bailey's Appy, of course Bailey's Appy, 1455 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 2: why would he get any of that money? 1456 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 1: Right? 1457 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,960 Speaker 2: If Bailey's Appy were to go to Clemson based on 1458 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,120 Speaker 2: this kind of loan after four or five games where 1459 01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,080 Speaker 2: Bailey's Appy's like, oh man, this kid at Western Kentucky, 1460 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 2: not geographically too far away, is lighting it up right, 1461 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,719 Speaker 2: had a good game against Michigan State, and Western Kentucky's 1462 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,400 Speaker 2: not making Power five TV cash. So let's say Clemson, 1463 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 2: who is making that big cash offered you know, a 1464 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,599 Speaker 2: million bucks or something like that, a non insignificant amount 1465 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 2: of money that Western Kentucky could put towards a sports, 1466 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 2: a different sport whatever. They're like, okay, fine, we like 1467 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,160 Speaker 2: our backup, We'll go with it. Does Bailey's Appy make 1468 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 2: an appreciable difference in the Clemson twenty twenty one season 1469 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 2: if they could buy the best available or Grayson McCall, 1470 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,439 Speaker 2: whoever it is, that the best available? But I feel 1471 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,200 Speaker 2: like Coastal care Lina was winning more games, so they 1472 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,680 Speaker 2: would be a little more hesitant though it's in the 1473 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 2: geographic footprint even more is there a world in which 1474 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 2: the best G five quarterback, especially local to the South Southeast, 1475 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,920 Speaker 2: is making a difference in Clemson season? Should this be 1476 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,640 Speaker 2: an allowable transaction? I think so? 1477 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so Clemson lose. 1478 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,519 Speaker 2: I don't think Bailey's appy beats Georgia, and we wouldn't 1479 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,679 Speaker 2: know because Bailey's Appy wouldn't be available and he wouldn't 1480 01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,800 Speaker 2: be a known commodity to open the season. 1481 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:32,800 Speaker 1: Right right, I mean, there are always no shortage of 1482 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 1: really good group of five quarterbacks. And Dju was bad 1483 01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,519 Speaker 1: early on. He got better, he got better, right, he 1484 01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:43,600 Speaker 1: got better, but he was very bad early on. So 1485 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,320 Speaker 1: could you bring in somebody? Could you bring in a 1486 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,439 Speaker 1: grays and McCall. I get that Coastal might be adverse 1487 01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:54,720 Speaker 1: to that move. Yeah, but everybody's got a price. Everybody's 1488 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 1: got a price. If your coastal, if you can make 1489 01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:01,439 Speaker 1: bank to get Grayson McCall pro prospect to get him 1490 01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:05,360 Speaker 1: over to Clemson, yeah, of course. So I think it's 1491 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:06,400 Speaker 1: an interesting question. 1492 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:07,320 Speaker 2: There are some. 1493 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,400 Speaker 1: Around college football, by the way, yeah, who think it's 1494 01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:13,839 Speaker 1: headed in this direction because of nil. You know, program 1495 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 1: can't straight up by a guy, A program can't straight 1496 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,639 Speaker 1: up pay a guy, but Boosters have businesses and invest 1497 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,800 Speaker 1: in a fund of some kind. Yeah, there are some 1498 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,080 Speaker 1: folks who think that we're headed in this direction, that 1499 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 1: it could potentially derail college football. As we know a 1500 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,640 Speaker 1: Kirby Spartanik Saban. 1501 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 2: Might be two of them. 1502 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's interesting to me. It's interesting to me. 1503 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm not totally against the spirit behind this post, and 1504 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 1: of course is outlandish, but that being said, I understand 1505 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,360 Speaker 1: where it's coming from. And I don't know, maybe a 1506 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,800 Speaker 1: year or two more into Nil will be singing a 1507 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 1: similar tune like we got to get Boosters aligned here, 1508 01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 1: we got to go out and we got to buy 1509 01:19:58,479 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback that can come and help this thing. 1510 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:06,479 Speaker 2: I love this because it takes the autonomy fully away 1511 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:11,479 Speaker 2: from Bailey's Appy. In this, I was like, hey, college football, 1512 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,760 Speaker 2: it's you go to college and you're happen to be 1513 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,240 Speaker 2: good at football, and we're gonna give you a bunch 1514 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 2: of money to attend school and any other expenses, and 1515 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 2: in return, you're gonna play college football for us. Also, 1516 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,679 Speaker 2: if another school thinks they could use you more, we'll 1517 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 2: sell you. That energy is kind of misplaced, but yeah, 1518 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 2: Bailey's Appy with now Clemson's receivers were disappointed. The offensive 1519 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,760 Speaker 2: line was disappointing. I don't think Clemson fans were huge 1520 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,120 Speaker 2: fans of Tony Elliott's job this past year or two. 1521 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,400 Speaker 2: But is Bailey's appy connecting on more passes downfield? They 1522 01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:50,680 Speaker 2: lose to what NC State and doublet and Pitt by 1523 01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 2: eight or ten points or something like that. They're losing 1524 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,799 Speaker 2: to Georgia either way, that gets them in the playoff. 1525 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,679 Speaker 2: If Bailey's Appy is the difference against Pitt and NC State. Now, 1526 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. Clemson wasn't able really to stop in 1527 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,840 Speaker 2: overtime like that was a defensive thing. It was Devin 1528 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 2: Leary connecting on some crazy passes. But I think I 1529 01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:15,240 Speaker 2: think Zappi in this alternate universe, with time to learn 1530 01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:16,920 Speaker 2: the system and get in a rhythm and whatever, blah 1531 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,400 Speaker 2: blah blah, I think he's better. 1532 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are going to need to come back to 1533 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,680 Speaker 1: this prebist. You know how Conan used to have the 1534 01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:27,240 Speaker 1: Walker Texas Ranger lever, of course. 1535 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 2: Until he realized that he didn't want to pay residuals 1536 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,720 Speaker 2: to the actors and the clips he was showing on 1537 01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,680 Speaker 2: his show. That's the reason they stopped because they're like, 1538 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,080 Speaker 2: I think the people at the studio that produced Walker 1539 01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:44,080 Speaker 2: Texas Ranger are going to start charging you for this. Yeah, 1540 01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:44,679 Speaker 2: what we. 1541 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 1: Need to do is we need to have a message 1542 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 1: board lever. Of course, you need to make a sound. 1543 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 2: I'm giving you the. 1544 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,000 Speaker 1: Acount of that, and every sound take a dip in. 1545 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, every week, every other week, every month, yeah, 1546 01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,200 Speaker 1: every so often, mix it up, but it would be 1547 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 1: helpful to have a message board lever. Yeah, saliverbo atmail 1548 01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 1: dot com is the email address right in. Let us 1549 01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:06,680 Speaker 1: know if there are any that we missed. 1550 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:07,679 Speaker 2: Or just your favorite. 1551 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 1: Please do continue to monitor the artists over at boor 1552 01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 1: geniuses on Twitter. We appreciate their fine work. We appreciate 1553 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,639 Speaker 1: the fine work of the college football community in putting 1554 01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:24,599 Speaker 1: these thoughts, these ideas, some of this drivel into the universe. 1555 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,519 Speaker 2: We love the energy the all time message board post. 1556 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this wrong, but this is the all. 1557 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 2: This is the sketch of it. John Boyce, who have 1558 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,599 Speaker 2: known forever, good friend of mine, decent friend of mine. 1559 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,360 Speaker 2: I haven't seen him in a long time. He did 1560 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,919 Speaker 2: a whole video about on bodybuilding dot com. An argument 1561 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 2: erupted about how many days there were in a week, 1562 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 2: and somebody insisted that it was not seven. There was 1563 01:22:55,040 --> 01:23:00,639 Speaker 2: an ongoing I want to say, like very long days, weeks, months, years, debate. 1564 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,360 Speaker 2: Look it up about how many days there actually were 1565 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:05,719 Speaker 2: in a week. 1566 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. You should look up the John Boys video. 1567 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: John's the best. 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