1
00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,639
Speaker 1: Ron an Inian, You're concerned about the brakes grinding, and

2
00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,680
Speaker 1: I get that, and how unsafe it is, and I

3
00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,960
Speaker 1: get that, but trust me when I tell you that

4
00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:16,840
Speaker 1: by now the rotors are garbage.

5
00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,160
Speaker 2: Anyway, the Car Doctor, the boot.

6
00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,160
Speaker 3: Was halfway off and it was leaking oil.

7
00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,439
Speaker 1: Okay, from a leaking oil perspective, yeah, you've you've got

8
00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,560
Speaker 1: to change it. But I can tell you what the

9
00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,520
Speaker 1: more common cause of noise on a camera.

10
00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,920
Speaker 2: Is crawl under the car, look at the sway bark.

11
00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,680
Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of ron Aanian, the Car Doctor.

12
00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,080
Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the

13
00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,400
Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair.

14
00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,640
Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up

15
00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,839
Speaker 4: the phone and call in. The garage doors.

16
00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,720
Speaker 1: Are open, but I am here to take your calls

17
00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,240
Speaker 1: at eight five five five six oh ninety nine hundred

18
00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,440
Speaker 1: and now hes Ronnie.

19
00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,680
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, did I ever tell you the story?

20
00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:02,440
Speaker 2: I don't think I did.

21
00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,200
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this story, hey, ron and any

22
00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:05,800
Speaker 1: and the Car Doctor here at eight five five five

23
00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,559
Speaker 1: six nine nine zero zero, here to take your calls

24
00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,080
Speaker 1: and answer your questions and solve your automotive problems.

25
00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,120
Speaker 2: As our show.

26
00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,920
Speaker 1: Logo states, car advice done right. That's what this radio

27
00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,040
Speaker 1: show is all about. If you're a new listener, and

28
00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,720
Speaker 1: I know there are new listeners out there as the

29
00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,959
Speaker 1: affiliate list continues to grow, as we start to keep

30
00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,480
Speaker 1: spreading out all across America and across the Internet obviously

31
00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,720
Speaker 1: because of podcasting and streaming. Now we know the Car

32
00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,520
Speaker 1: Doctor is all over the world, and it's just great

33
00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,240
Speaker 1: to be there and we're glad to be here joining

34
00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,240
Speaker 1: you and spending time with you each and every week

35
00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,800
Speaker 1: solving your car problem and helping you.

36
00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:38,520
Speaker 2: To understand a car.

37
00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,080
Speaker 1: Maybe you've got a car and it's not a question

38
00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,480
Speaker 1: of a problem, maybe it's a question of you just

39
00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,440
Speaker 1: don't understand something. And that's what this radio show is about,

40
00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,080
Speaker 1: just to educate you as far as what's going on

41
00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,040
Speaker 1: under the hood. If you're looking for the Car Doctor

42
00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,160
Speaker 1: out online, you want to find out more about this show,

43
00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,160
Speaker 1: or you want to just get access to podcasts, and

44
00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,440
Speaker 1: it's the simplest, easiest way is cardoctorshow dot com and

45
00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,720
Speaker 1: you can either download podcasts there or stream the show

46
00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,840
Speaker 1: podcasts of the show right there. From that website. We

47
00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,600
Speaker 1: are working on streaming the show live during hours. As

48
00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,080
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, we hope by the end of

49
00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,920
Speaker 1: first quarter next year, as next year is right around

50
00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,480
Speaker 1: the corner, to have a twenty four to seven rawn

51
00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,760
Speaker 1: channel where you can just log in and listen to

52
00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,720
Speaker 1: twenty four hours of Who would listen My mom would

53
00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,480
Speaker 1: listen to that twenty four hours of Ron, but I

54
00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,000
Speaker 1: don't know that the listeners would. But we'll have the

55
00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,320
Speaker 1: Car Doctor show up for twenty four to seven and

56
00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,440
Speaker 1: you can grab it anytime you want listen to any

57
00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,079
Speaker 1: episode you want.

58
00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna make like a library.

59
00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,160
Speaker 1: You can also get out to tune in dot com.

60
00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,119
Speaker 1: There's a list out there of podcasts and affiliates where

61
00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,320
Speaker 1: you can tune in, and you can also get podcasting there,

62
00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,480
Speaker 1: and also get out to iHeart dot com or iTunes

63
00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440
Speaker 1: dot com if you wish to subscribe and pick up

64
00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,400
Speaker 1: the radio show that way, so you can take podcasts

65
00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,960
Speaker 1: with you on your device wherever you want to go.

66
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,120
Speaker 1: And by all means, if you want, email me Ron

67
00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,560
Speaker 1: at Cardoctorshow dot com and let's talk via email, or

68
00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,600
Speaker 1: we may put you up here on air and see

69
00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,880
Speaker 1: what's going on. What's going on. Well, we had a

70
00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and five EAT two point fifty FOURD van

71
00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,080
Speaker 1: this week, and I thought it was a classic case

72
00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,840
Speaker 1: of don't let the mileage fool.

73
00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:05,960
Speaker 5: You, right.

74
00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,960
Speaker 1: It had a P zero three to three misfire fault,

75
00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,600
Speaker 1: which is a misfire on cylinder three. As some of

76
00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,320
Speaker 1: you must know by now you've heard me talk about

77
00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,840
Speaker 1: misfires over the years, and it was pretty much cut

78
00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,919
Speaker 1: and dry. It was straight and true in the sense

79
00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,639
Speaker 1: that after I scanned it saw the misfire fault, looked

80
00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,440
Speaker 1: at mode six. Mode six being the information behind the

81
00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,160
Speaker 1: scenes that the computer looks at the actual machine language

82
00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,440
Speaker 1: or definition of when the fault's going to occur, and

83
00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,120
Speaker 1: it was flagging cylinder number three. When I pulled the

84
00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,800
Speaker 1: coil out. I pulled the coil out cold and did

85
00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,360
Speaker 1: an ome reading test. It was the quickest and simplest way,

86
00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,320
Speaker 1: and then I warmed it up and with a heat gun,

87
00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,680
Speaker 1: and I saw the coil short open. Because the complaint

88
00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,920
Speaker 1: with this car was it ran great cold and it

89
00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,280
Speaker 1: failed open, which is a classic of one of primary winding,

90
00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,280
Speaker 1: and a coil is going to fail in short out

91
00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,280
Speaker 1: or have some sort of an issue and be a problem,

92
00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,080
Speaker 1: and sure enough, it was a simple matter of replace.

93
00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,240
Speaker 1: The coil replaced the plug. That isn't what makes this

94
00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,040
Speaker 1: such an interesting repair. It was pretty much textbook except

95
00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,040
Speaker 1: for the fact that it only had twenty nine thousand

96
00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,240
Speaker 1: plus miles on it, almost thirty thousand miles. That did

97
00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,160
Speaker 1: fix the running issue. One coil put a plug in

98
00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,359
Speaker 1: it because it was partially found. What's interesting is looking

99
00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,160
Speaker 1: at the rest of the vehicle. This vehicle is a

100
00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,599
Speaker 1: two thousand and five anyway you slice it. It's just

101
00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,160
Speaker 1: coming up on ten years old. It's got the original

102
00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,560
Speaker 1: battery in it, battery nine going on ten years old.

103
00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,719
Speaker 1: The positive post is so badly corroded that it almost

104
00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,640
Speaker 1: looks like it's ready to fall off. And as I

105
00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,000
Speaker 1: said to the customer, first time customer, matter of fact,

106
00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:43,960
Speaker 1: a radio station here in the New York City area

107
00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,000
Speaker 1: that is using us. We're repairing their vehicle and the

108
00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,000
Speaker 1: battery is so bad that I didn't give them the

109
00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,599
Speaker 1: option of do they want to battery replaced. I told

110
00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,360
Speaker 1: them we're going to put a battery in it because

111
00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,280
Speaker 1: you're going to break down somewhere and the cable may

112
00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,039
Speaker 1: be a problem. I'll have to make a cable end

113
00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,120
Speaker 1: and you can't do that out in the field. That's

114
00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,800
Speaker 1: how that's how tough this this battery is in terms

115
00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,120
Speaker 1: of what can happen and what can go wrong. The

116
00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,680
Speaker 1: tires are dry rotted, the tires have cracks in the

117
00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,760
Speaker 1: side that you know, the original tires twenty nine thousand miles.

118
00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,720
Speaker 1: It's been sitting in a New York City parking garage

119
00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,960
Speaker 1: all these years, and you can see that these Michelin

120
00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,479
Speaker 1: tires and it's a classic case of you know what,

121
00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,599
Speaker 1: ten years old, three thousand miles a year. Sometimes it

122
00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,360
Speaker 1: doesn't pay to have that, although in this case, these

123
00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,560
Speaker 1: are the mischiliness that the vehicle came with. That the

124
00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,960
Speaker 1: tires are dry rotting and the tires are starting to

125
00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,960
Speaker 1: fall apart and disintegrate. The bottom line becomes that you

126
00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,760
Speaker 1: can't judge a vehicle strictly by mileage. You've got to

127
00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,600
Speaker 1: look at the timeframe. You've got to look at how

128
00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,719
Speaker 1: old it sits, what's the environment. Here's a vehicle that

129
00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,360
Speaker 1: saw a very little mileage, but it's been stored in wet,

130
00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,440
Speaker 1: damp garages, in parking garages, under buildings, It's been used

131
00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,320
Speaker 1: for short trips. It hasn't seen a lot of warm

132
00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,560
Speaker 1: up time. Maybe it's idled a lot. I've gotten no

133
00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,440
Speaker 1: way to know that. When it's doing remotes for this

134
00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,440
Speaker 1: particular radio station. Maybe they've used it for that remotes

135
00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,760
Speaker 1: for equipment or to keep the crew warm while they're

136
00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,599
Speaker 1: waiting for the different segments of a remote show to end.

137
00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,320
Speaker 1: But it really comes back to you've got to judge

138
00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,880
Speaker 1: a vehicle by time and mileage. Because here's a vehicle

139
00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,000
Speaker 1: with thirty thousand miles on it that well, I probably

140
00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,919
Speaker 1: wouldn't go around the block in it until I at

141
00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,680
Speaker 1: least put tires and a battery on it in order

142
00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,440
Speaker 1: to know that it's semi safe and somewhat reliable. Hello,

143
00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,240
Speaker 1: and welcome ronnin Andy and the Car Doctor here at

144
00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,480
Speaker 1: eight five five five six nine nine zero zero. As

145
00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,480
Speaker 1: I pointed out before, that's the phone number if you

146
00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,760
Speaker 1: want to get in and give the car doctor a

147
00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,440
Speaker 1: call and talk to me about your car problem, whatever.

148
00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:38,640
Speaker 2: That might be.

149
00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,160
Speaker 1: This is an interview free hour, and I see since

150
00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,280
Speaker 1: the phone banks are lit up and backed up, let's

151
00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,320
Speaker 1: kick open the garage doors right away. Let's welcome Randy

152
00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,200
Speaker 1: from Iowa on with some a return call. Actually, this

153
00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,039
Speaker 1: is a return call about I believe it's a twenty

154
00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,040
Speaker 1: ten Toyota Corolla.

155
00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,680
Speaker 2: Randy, welcome back. What's going on here?

156
00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:00,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it. I get a two fall. But yet

157
00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,400
Speaker 6: if I drive the car for a while, I shut

158
00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,800
Speaker 6: it off ten to fifteen minutes I started up, the

159
00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,560
Speaker 6: light goes back out. So got a PO one thirty eight,

160
00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,080
Speaker 6: C twelve oh one, PO three hundred and PO five

161
00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,640
Speaker 6: oh by.

162
00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,840
Speaker 1: So you've got A one thirty eight which is which

163
00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:27,280
Speaker 1: is bank one censor two oxygen sensor, heater circuit having

164
00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,840
Speaker 1: a problem air fuel sens or the circuit control itself.

165
00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,239
Speaker 2: And what are the other fault colds You've.

166
00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,760
Speaker 6: Got C twelve oh one engine control system or break

167
00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,360
Speaker 6: booster okay, PO three hundred, which is misfire right.

168
00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,440
Speaker 1: P zero three hundred. Let's let's deal with that. Let

169
00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,320
Speaker 1: me ask you this, If you clear the faults, what

170
00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,040
Speaker 1: comes back?

171
00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,360
Speaker 6: I cleared it when none of it came.

172
00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,080
Speaker 1: Back, okay, So right now you're ting other other than

173
00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:53,840
Speaker 1: other van.

174
00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,760
Speaker 6: Right when I go to the OEU, half of the

175
00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,760
Speaker 6: things for the Toyota codes baggy is sixteen of them

176
00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,000
Speaker 6: that make no sense. The valve timing's too far advance

177
00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,880
Speaker 6: too far retarded, the airflows too high, airflows too low,

178
00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:15,240
Speaker 6: evapp flow too high, too low. Every other one contradicts

179
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,360
Speaker 6: the one before it.

180
00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,720
Speaker 1: Did you clear those faults as well?

181
00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,480
Speaker 6: They come back immediately, They.

182
00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,240
Speaker 1: Come back immediately, Okay, but yet it doesn't turn on

183
00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:26,120
Speaker 1: the check engine light.

184
00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:27,400
Speaker 6: Correct.

185
00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:28,960
Speaker 2: Okay.

186
00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,080
Speaker 1: Then I'm going to start to talk to you about.

187
00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,600
Speaker 1: There's a couple of things. If you've seen Toyota bulletin

188
00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:38,440
Speaker 1: TSB double O sixty six Dash ten, not yet all right,

189
00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,280
Speaker 1: So write that one down TSB double O sixty six

190
00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,319
Speaker 1: Dash ten and I'll tell you what. It's a late

191
00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,800
Speaker 1: the conversation. Let me pull over and take a pause,

192
00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,400
Speaker 1: and when I return, we'll discuss it at length. Sit tight,

193
00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm running ny in the car.

194
00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:49,600
Speaker 2: Doctor.

195
00:08:49,640 --> 00:09:24,280
Speaker 5: We're back right after this.

196
00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,840
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back. Weren't any in the cardocket. Let's get

197
00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,480
Speaker 2: right into it.

198
00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,360
Speaker 1: Let's get back to Randy and Iowa. Randy, you're still there, sir.

199
00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:32,440
Speaker 7: Oh yah.

200
00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,880
Speaker 2: TSBO sixty six Dash ten is.

201
00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,839
Speaker 1: And there's a couple of released versions of this tells

202
00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,559
Speaker 1: the story about Toyota Corolla like yours, up to a

203
00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,680
Speaker 1: certain vent, around a certain vent serial number with multiple

204
00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:51,079
Speaker 1: codes twenty one ninety eight double oh thirty one balve

205
00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,319
Speaker 1: timing issues, all sorts of codes that make absolutely no sense.

206
00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,880
Speaker 1: And sixty six y ten talks about the issues that

207
00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,720
Speaker 1: are there as a result of a fault internal in

208
00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,599
Speaker 1: the PCM and or updated software for the operating strategy

209
00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,959
Speaker 1: of the vehicle. Do you know the history of the car?

210
00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,480
Speaker 1: Have you had any of that work done? No?

211
00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,760
Speaker 2: Best thing you need to do is get.

212
00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,800
Speaker 1: Your hands on TSB double sixty six tosh ten read it,

213
00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,120
Speaker 1: verify if your vin falls into that category.

214
00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,240
Speaker 2: And I believe you're.

215
00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,640
Speaker 1: Going to find that a PCM and a software update

216
00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,960
Speaker 1: is in order, as an educated guest from my seat here,

217
00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,120
Speaker 1: and then you'll find out that you know that work

218
00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:32,760
Speaker 1: needs to be done.

219
00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,559
Speaker 2: Now, keep in mind the vehicle is.

220
00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,880
Speaker 1: Covered under Toyota manufacturer's warranty up to eight years and

221
00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,040
Speaker 1: I think it's eight years eighty thousand miles if I'm

222
00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,040
Speaker 1: not mistaken, But the bulletin highlights that, So how many

223
00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,439
Speaker 1: miles are on the car?

224
00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:48,400
Speaker 2: Well, you're just out.

225
00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,280
Speaker 1: But you know what, you might find a Toyota dealer

226
00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,800
Speaker 1: that wants to play ball a little bit. If you're

227
00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,040
Speaker 1: going and talk to them. You know it's it's just

228
00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,000
Speaker 1: a little over four years. You know, it is a

229
00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,760
Speaker 1: common fault, and the bulletin does talk about quite a bit,

230
00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,559
Speaker 1: and depending upon your relationship with the dealer, you may

231
00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,319
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, get a halfway point, even

232
00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,960
Speaker 1: if they do half of it, do a fifty to fifty.

233
00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,600
Speaker 1: You know dealers, and I won't say they all do,

234
00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,240
Speaker 1: but you know their repair shops, they have the ability

235
00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,120
Speaker 1: to make customers happy and if they think there's an

236
00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,440
Speaker 1: advantage to making you happy, they will. So I encourage

237
00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,600
Speaker 1: you to go in and talk to them in a

238
00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,240
Speaker 1: civil manner and say, hey, guys, what can you do

239
00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:24,520
Speaker 1: for me?

240
00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:25,199
Speaker 2: And see what happens.

241
00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,960
Speaker 1: Randy, I've got to take another call, but let me

242
00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,119
Speaker 1: know what happens and keep us posted on this. Brian Lacrosse, Wisconsin.

243
00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,000
Speaker 1: I believe it is some questions on an eight thousand

244
00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,439
Speaker 1: dollars used car. What's the best eight thousand dollars used car?

245
00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,600
Speaker 1: I believe the question is, Brian, Welcome to the car doctor, sir.

246
00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:39,960
Speaker 2: How can I help hi?

247
00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,199
Speaker 3: Ron, Yes, sir, I'm driving a ninety six course Aga.

248
00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,120
Speaker 3: Now it's been through quite a life, two hundred and

249
00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,080
Speaker 3: twenty thousand miles. It's the three to one Leader sixth cylinder.

250
00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,280
Speaker 3: It's the third one of these I've had because they're

251
00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:58,360
Speaker 3: just reliable race for me to have been right, what

252
00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,840
Speaker 3: in this thing the Wisconsin Winners is just finally going

253
00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,760
Speaker 3: to take it to the boneyard?

254
00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:04,160
Speaker 5: Right?

255
00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,240
Speaker 2: Not much, not much left right? Right?

256
00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, the last repair was the left for your shot

257
00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,920
Speaker 3: color punching through into the trunk right right. At any rate,

258
00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,439
Speaker 3: I don't want a new car. Have been there, done that,

259
00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:25,120
Speaker 3: and so something in the eight to ten year old

260
00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,760
Speaker 3: eight to ten thousand is there. Do you see cars

261
00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,440
Speaker 3: that are just routinely reliable in the last long term?

262
00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think any of the Jeep Cherokee Grand Cherokee

263
00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,120
Speaker 1: four Leaders. You can find the old straight six and

264
00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,800
Speaker 1: they were they were produced in volume up through model

265
00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,760
Speaker 1: year two thousand and four, two thousand and five. You know,

266
00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,400
Speaker 1: they typically go three hundred thousand miles and beyond if

267
00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,440
Speaker 1: they've been maintained and cared for. And I would dare

268
00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,280
Speaker 1: say in Wisconsin winters, you're probably looking for a four

269
00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:55,880
Speaker 1: wheel drive.

270
00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,400
Speaker 3: Well, maybe most of my driving is the highway to work, okay,

271
00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,640
Speaker 3: And I get with those coursaus I get twenty nine

272
00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,800
Speaker 3: thirty miles to the gallon.

273
00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, then you don't want to jeep. Yeah, no, okay,

274
00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,640
Speaker 2: then you don't. Then you don't want a jeep.

275
00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,240
Speaker 1: Then we're gonna talk about older records, older camrays.

276
00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:15,000
Speaker 6: Uh.

277
00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,319
Speaker 1: You know, we could also talk about let's see what

278
00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,360
Speaker 1: did GM have ten years ago. I don't even remember.

279
00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,360
Speaker 1: Oh Malibus, See if you can, you know, see what's

280
00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,360
Speaker 1: out there. Oh four oh five Chevy Malibus. Real solid car.

281
00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,600
Speaker 1: I forgot for a minute. That's what the wife drives.

282
00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,040
Speaker 2: We like those. They're good cars. They're solid.

283
00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,840
Speaker 1: She's got one hundred and twenty eight thousand on hers

284
00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,480
Speaker 1: and it's still going strong. And that's ten years old.

285
00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,040
Speaker 1: And you know there's another one hundred and twenty in

286
00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,960
Speaker 1: that left, you know, without a doubt once I put

287
00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,959
Speaker 1: six cylinders, you know, yeah, and she's and she's pulling

288
00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,760
Speaker 1: twenty five twenty six miles per gallon, and that's combined

289
00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,559
Speaker 1: around town and highway. So I'm sure if she was

290
00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,320
Speaker 1: strictly out on the highway, you know, she'd probably hit

291
00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,679
Speaker 1: thirty all the time if it was just.

292
00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,640
Speaker 2: A steady cruise at sixty sixty five.

293
00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,319
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm talking on mine, because it's mostly

294
00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:02,560
Speaker 3: Highway and it's about that thirty YEP focus motors to avoid.

295
00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,400
Speaker 1: There's probably a few, Brian, nothing really stands out in

296
00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,680
Speaker 1: my mind. My My best answer is, you know, see

297
00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,480
Speaker 1: what's out there, because in Wisconsin, the one thing that's

298
00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,520
Speaker 1: gonna limit you, like any other Salt belt state, is

299
00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,240
Speaker 1: you know what's the rust condition. You're gonna find some

300
00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,080
Speaker 1: very popular cars, but then what's left of them? Will

301
00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,720
Speaker 1: you get another five six years out of them?

302
00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:24,440
Speaker 2: Because of the rust?

303
00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,880
Speaker 1: And you know, as you said, your corsica punch the

304
00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,440
Speaker 1: trunk through the shock through the trunk. That's how badly

305
00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,120
Speaker 1: corroded it was. So let's do this, tell you what,

306
00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,280
Speaker 1: Let's make a date. You got three weeks or two weeks,

307
00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,560
Speaker 1: whatever timeframe you want. Pick something. Give me a choice

308
00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,920
Speaker 1: of three, email me or send it to Harry. You know,

309
00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,280
Speaker 1: if you send it to fast Harry at cardoctorshow dot

310
00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,160
Speaker 1: com and he'll get you back up in Q and

311
00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,720
Speaker 1: let's talk about it up here on air and I'll

312
00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,840
Speaker 1: help you make a decision. How's that okay? All right,

313
00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,520
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you then, Brian, you're very welcome. Let's

314
00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,480
Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to Mike in Minnesota, two

315
00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,280
Speaker 1: thousand and Ford Focus and some questions about a car

316
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,200
Speaker 1: that is day Mike. Welcome to the car doctor, sir.

317
00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,280
Speaker 2: How can I help hi?

318
00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:04,680
Speaker 7: Are doing?

319
00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:05,960
Speaker 3: Doctor Carr?

320
00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,440
Speaker 7: Yes, I'd like to thank you for letting me have

321
00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,680
Speaker 7: this thing, and I'll tell you what a mechanic is.

322
00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,520
Speaker 7: No less important of finding a good doctor.

323
00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,120
Speaker 2: No, we appreciate that. What can I do for you, Mike?

324
00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,640
Speaker 7: I don't It just started in This actually is my

325
00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,080
Speaker 7: son's car. Now, the gas was old, but I've been

326
00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,760
Speaker 7: using it and it's ran rather well. But last week

327
00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,360
Speaker 7: one night I went to start it up from Bok,

328
00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,000
Speaker 7: had a hard time starting through my travel on home.

329
00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,840
Speaker 7: It died maybe a dozen, dozen and a half times,

330
00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,840
Speaker 7: and I heard minor backfiring. And my first thought is

331
00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,320
Speaker 7: either a fuel pumper or gas filter. I'm not one

332
00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,400
Speaker 7: hundred percent sure.

333
00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,840
Speaker 1: Fuel pumps on a two thousand Focus very common. Matter

334
00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,960
Speaker 1: of fact, the worst year for a Focus. I hate

335
00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,440
Speaker 1: to tell you this. The only thing worse than a

336
00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,800
Speaker 1: two thousand and one Focus is a two thousand Focus.

337
00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,560
Speaker 1: And usually it was a great deal of fuel pump

338
00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,480
Speaker 1: fuel pressure issues. Uh, you know, do you have the

339
00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,600
Speaker 1: ability to pull codes?

340
00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:07,840
Speaker 5: Mike?

341
00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,800
Speaker 7: No, it does nothing lights up, nothing comes on, So there's.

342
00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,120
Speaker 1: No uh right, well right now, but right now it's

343
00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,440
Speaker 1: dead correct, right now, it's just a crank no start,

344
00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,280
Speaker 1: all right. So you if you sit there and turn

345
00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,160
Speaker 1: the key on, the check engine light's gonna come on

346
00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,560
Speaker 1: as a matter of bulb check, you know, like, so

347
00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,360
Speaker 1: you won't know the difference if it's set a fault

348
00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,320
Speaker 1: code and died or not. If you've got the ability

349
00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,080
Speaker 1: to pull codes, I would tell you to go looking.

350
00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,560
Speaker 1: If you see a twelve thirty seven, you've got a

351
00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,600
Speaker 1: problem in the fuel pump area. It could be the

352
00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,160
Speaker 1: driver module, it could be the pump, and further testing's

353
00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,320
Speaker 1: got to be done. The other is just a simple

354
00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,120
Speaker 1: matter of it's a it's a car that it's a

355
00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,360
Speaker 1: crank no start at.

356
00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,120
Speaker 2: This point, correct, correct? All right?

357
00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,960
Speaker 1: You ever fix a lawnmower that doesn't run?

358
00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,040
Speaker 7: Yes, I have?

359
00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,920
Speaker 1: Okay, what'd you check for? You look for spark, you

360
00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,160
Speaker 1: look for fuel and was it mechanical? All right, So

361
00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,520
Speaker 1: let's do let's do the easy part of the diagnosis.

362
00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,240
Speaker 1: If you crank it over, you know, does the engine

363
00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,600
Speaker 1: sound like it's cranking normally? Yes, it does, so it

364
00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,080
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like the timing belt jumped or broke.

365
00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,199
Speaker 2: No, it does not, okay, so we can eliminate that.

366
00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's easy enough to check.

367
00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,919
Speaker 1: You can take the oil filled cap off, or you know,

368
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,080
Speaker 1: look peak maybe behind the timing cover and see does

369
00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,080
Speaker 1: the belt look like it's snapped, et cetera. But we

370
00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,240
Speaker 1: can leave that off the list. So we're down to

371
00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,159
Speaker 1: spark or fuel as common objectives. If you turn the

372
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,000
Speaker 1: key on but not crank it does the check engine

373
00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:35,800
Speaker 1: light light up?

374
00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:38,520
Speaker 7: Yes?

375
00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,640
Speaker 2: It does, okay, so we.

376
00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,359
Speaker 1: Know the PCM is alive. We know the onboard computer

377
00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,200
Speaker 1: is alive. It's getting power and it's trying to do something.

378
00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,520
Speaker 1: We just don't know what it's trying to do. So

379
00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,399
Speaker 1: now my next step would be go down to the

380
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,320
Speaker 1: local autoparts store if you don't have one, by a

381
00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,359
Speaker 1: spark tester all right. Spark tester is a fancy spark

382
00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,239
Speaker 1: plug with an alligator clip on it, or they'll it.

383
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,200
Speaker 1: It's like a long black piece of plastic. Fexton makes them.

384
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,320
Speaker 1: You can spin it in or out and calibrate for spark.

385
00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,280
Speaker 1: You should see thirty thirty five thousand volts jump out

386
00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,280
Speaker 1: of that ignition system, no problem, all day long a

387
00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,119
Speaker 1: nice hot blue spark. You know that the ignition system

388
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,080
Speaker 1: is good. And the nice part about that is, if

389
00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:21,080
Speaker 1: you're driving older cars and you're so inclined, you'll always

390
00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,800
Speaker 1: have this twenty five dollars tool in your toolbox and

391
00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,000
Speaker 1: your bag of tricks, because again, it's spark, fuel or mechanical.

392
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,520
Speaker 1: When something doesn't spark, what are we looking for? Once

393
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,720
Speaker 1: you get past no spark? You got a fuel pressure gauge?

394
00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,040
Speaker 1: Can we check for fuel pressure?

395
00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:37,520
Speaker 2: Okay?

396
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,480
Speaker 1: How about can somebody turn the key on and you

397
00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,159
Speaker 1: listen at the fuel pump at the tank. If you

398
00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,240
Speaker 1: don't hear that pump run, then we've probably got a

399
00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 1: pump problem. Now we've got to decide is it electrical,

400
00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,040
Speaker 1: is the relay bed? Is the driver module bed? But

401
00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,600
Speaker 1: short of actually doing a fuel pressure test, at least

402
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,560
Speaker 1: it eliminates you know, it's got spark, you know the

403
00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 1: PCM's alive, you know mechanical it's good.

404
00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 2: Then we can start to consider fuel.

405
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,159
Speaker 1: And that's where I would send you, Mike, take a

406
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 1: look at the fuel system any which way you can,

407
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:06,040
Speaker 1: and we'll go from there.

408
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm Mononading and the car doctor. We're back right after

409
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:08,240
Speaker 2: this