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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered

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Speaker 1: by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen and today's

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Speaker 1: episode Big News over the weekend. Jamal Adams, now a

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Speaker 1: member of the Seattle Seahawks, will break it down our

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Speaker 1: initial reactions, the draft capital aspect, Bradley McDougald, the new

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Speaker 1: Jet safety who came over from Seattle, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about what this does for Joe Douglas and the Jets

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Speaker 1: moving forward in two thousand twenty one really and moving

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Speaker 1: forward from there. And first things, first to a was Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're both going about our weekends and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden we see and here that Jamal Adams

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Speaker 1: got traded. I just want to know what is your

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Speaker 1: initial reaction of this pretty big franchise altering move for

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Yeah. I think it's one of the most

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Speaker 1: significant trades in franchise history. Our own Randy Lang wrote

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Speaker 1: about it over the weekend on New York Jets dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I automatically thought about the Jets move being Keyshawn Johnson

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Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for a lot of draft

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Speaker 1: capital back prior to the two thousand season. But the

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Speaker 1: initial reaction was one of surprise as far as the timing,

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Speaker 1: I was not surprised that Jamal Adams was shipped because

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Speaker 1: you had a lot of factors in play. You knew

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams throughout the National Football League would

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Speaker 1: be interested in adding a guy who plays at that

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Speaker 1: level like a Jamal Adams does. He was also very

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Speaker 1: vocal about getting a new contract and being frustrated with

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets. But I would go back to

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Speaker 1: what Joe Douglas said, we are gonna do what is

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Speaker 1: best for the New York Jets. He was not going

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Speaker 1: to move a player. To move him, he had to

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Speaker 1: get what he thought was proper value. And I thought

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Speaker 1: when I heard of what the Jets were getting back,

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Speaker 1: was hey, they got very good value for a tremendous

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Speaker 1: football player. Yeah. I agree with that. And when you

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Speaker 1: look at the other trades recently that involved two first

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Speaker 1: round picks, the ones that come to mind is somebody

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Speaker 1: like Jalen Ramsey who got traded last year Khalil Mack. Actually,

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Speaker 1: the Jets got more from a draft capital standpoint for

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams than the Chicago Bears did or the now

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders did. Excuse me for Khalil Mack when

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Speaker 1: he got traded from the Raiders to the Bears. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things to break down here, and

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Speaker 1: obviously the first thing that you think of when you

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Speaker 1: see the parameters of the trade as draft capital. The

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Speaker 1: Jets get a first round pick in two thousand twenty

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Speaker 1: one and two thousand twenty two. They also get a

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Speaker 1: third round pick in the two thousand twenty one draft,

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Speaker 1: and they send back a fourth round pick in two

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Speaker 1: thousand twenty two. So Joe Douglas, who has been a

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Speaker 1: renounced scout before he was a general manager, now has

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Speaker 1: a lot of flexibility in the draft and has four

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Speaker 1: first round picks over the next two years. And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing you're looking at if you are a followers

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Speaker 1: first round picks in one and two. So you talked

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Speaker 1: about flexibility. Listen, We'll have to see where the Jets

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Speaker 1: finish in two thousand twenty and also where the Seahawks finished,

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Speaker 1: because if you're a Jets fan now, obviously you're rooting

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Speaker 1: for anybody who You're rooting for anybody who plays against

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. Because that's going to help you're a

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Speaker 1: draft position next year and in the year following. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Like it's likely though, when you look at the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: this is a team that is in the playoff pitcher

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Speaker 1: or in the postseason each and every year. For my money,

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is good. Is as good as any quarterback

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. But if you're taking Mahomes one, I put

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson right on that line after him. That would

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Speaker 1: make sense to me. And they just added a big

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Speaker 1: time piece to their defensive mix. But the Jets, listen,

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Speaker 1: you can do a lot of things with your number

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Speaker 1: one picks. And I know where fans are concerned right

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Speaker 1: now is you're sending away a former first round pick.

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of things to consider here. Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: did not draft Jamal Adams. The other part of the

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Speaker 1: equation here is Joe Douglas has had only one draft

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Speaker 1: And that's so far from now. It's funny to think about,

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Speaker 1: looking at the twenty one draft, not only does Joe

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Speaker 1: when they traded Leonard Williams, they got a third round

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Speaker 1: a lot to break down here from a draft perspective,

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Speaker 1: But the fans are at some point, I gotta I

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Speaker 1: gotta interrupted real quick. That's a great point. Go back

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Speaker 1: to the Wonard Williams deal. Now, if you're Joe Douglas

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Speaker 1: and that scouting staff. You have a chance to package

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Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and Jamal Adams and get back eight to

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Speaker 1: ten very good players who are going to be part

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Speaker 1: And if we're just I'm gonna pour some gas on

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Speaker 1: the fire here. Remember Joe Douglas traded a six round

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Speaker 1: and then got that picked back in the draft when

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Speaker 1: the Jets traded back in the fourth round with the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: So Joe Douglas has been very He's been shipping his

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Speaker 1: accumulated a ton of picks for next season. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be very interesting to see how it all plays out

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Speaker 1: eventually down the road. And I've seen this on Twitter

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Speaker 1: a lot to a lot of Jets fans are like, well,

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Speaker 1: like a bad pick in the first round, a late

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Speaker 1: weird way. I'm not saying likely, but it's feasible that

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Speaker 1: of how difficult the NFC West is and the NFC

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Speaker 1: Jamal Adams into the equation, but you're right, every year

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Speaker 1: that run game and be stout against the run. Jamal Adams,

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Speaker 1: Jesus Swiss Army knife. You can do a lot of

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Speaker 1: both teams did well here. Yeah, I definitely agree with that.

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Speaker 1: safety Bradley McDougald. Do I don't think a lot of

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Speaker 1: Jets fans were familiar with before this trade, but based

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Speaker 1: are encouraged by the addition of Bradley McDougald, who I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll be competing the opposite Marcus May for that spot. Well,

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Speaker 1: what we saw from Greg Williams last year is he

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Speaker 1: were productive players. Now, on paper, yes, the Jets just

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Speaker 1: you drafted Ashton Davis out of California in the third round.

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Speaker 1: So if you're inside the Jets organization, you still say

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Speaker 1: But Marcus May. This also speaks, I think to the

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Speaker 1: McDougald is a guy who's been productive you mentioned and

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Speaker 1: ten interceptions, and the Jets love Ashton Davis. I leave

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Speaker 1: I think that's still possible too, even though Jamal Adams

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly my point is that when you just

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Speaker 1: these guys to be interchangeable. But Jamal was so effective

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Speaker 1: And what he finished with six and a half sacks

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Speaker 1: Ashton Davis, just because it's such a weird time of

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