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Speaker 1: your home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back. I'm Dale Lilly here with Matt Williamson and Matt.

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Speaker 1: There's an article here on CBS sports dot Com by

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Speaker 1: Jeff Kerr, and we may have some guys to add

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Speaker 1: to this ourselves on both sides of this. But he

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Speaker 1: did five veterans who benefited, and then five veterans who

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Speaker 1: who took a step backwards based on what happened with

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Speaker 1: their teams in the drafts in fantasy. But I think

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of like fantasy relevant names. Sure, yeah, right, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about left guards too often here, right, Uh,

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Speaker 1: five veterans who the draft helped. He lists Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: is his number one and I kind of disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: How did you how is Lamar Jackson helped by the

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Speaker 1: trade of his number one receiver when they didn't add

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Speaker 1: another receiver. Yeah, here's my thought. Here would be my

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Speaker 1: two arguments for and against having Lamar on the list.

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Speaker 1: Against is exactly what you said, They're they're passing game

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Speaker 1: it wasn't awesome to begin with. My positive would be,

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Speaker 1: well there, you know the storyline of the Ravens had

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Speaker 1: an awesome draft, they'll win more games. Maybe he's now

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Speaker 1: in line to be m v P, super Bowl, huge contract,

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Speaker 1: all those things. You know that his stock is a player,

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Speaker 1: human being quarterback raven increased even though his stock is

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Speaker 1: a passer decreased. Yeah, I put Harbor on that list

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Speaker 1: before Lamar, then, you know what I mean? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't see. Also know that these things they're putting more

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Speaker 1: on Lamar's plate than even before. Yeah. Right, They're What

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Speaker 1: they're saying now is hey, Lamar, we know we asked

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Speaker 1: a lot of you in the previous years. Now we

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Speaker 1: want you to do even more. We want you to

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Speaker 1: have to run that We want you have to run

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Speaker 1: for fift hundred yards this year, right, and take more

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Speaker 1: big nuts. They had a two tight ends in the

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Speaker 1: fourth round and then they had a punter. Uh, I

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Speaker 1: don't get it. I mean they drafted Filan Lee for

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Speaker 1: God's sakes. Yeah, there's a lot of players they like.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna just, you know, throw away everything

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Speaker 1: I said about linder Bomb or Hamilton's or Jones because

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Speaker 1: but I don't see how they helped Lamar. Right. But

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Speaker 1: I think there's more questions about this draft than people

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Speaker 1: want to realize, and that Hamilton's only fell to him

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Speaker 1: because he he has He doesn't run that great, he

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Speaker 1: that fast. He's a little bit of a unicorn, a

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Speaker 1: league and show me, show me a bunch of six

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Speaker 1: ft four safeties, right that have really succeeded, Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I wish he was a Steeler. I'm not cutting down

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Speaker 1: the guy. You know the reasons why these guys fell. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And as much as you and I like Jones, I

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Speaker 1: read some things after that. One of his reasons he

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Speaker 1: fell Travis Jones and nose tackle is the same as

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Speaker 1: flele is. People are really worried about weighting issues with him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's all he's a little soft in the middle, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's more red flags to some of these guys.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to say, boy, the Ravens just take good players,

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Speaker 1: and the draft super kind to them, and they just

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Speaker 1: grab all the good ones and they're smarter than everybody else.

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Speaker 1: And I respect that organization of no end, but these

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Speaker 1: guys had more flaws than maybe draft Twitter told you. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. Um, Kyler Murray is on the

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be saying Lamar, we don't think you can

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Speaker 1: Michael went to you know, sicily and learned how things work,

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Speaker 1: You know. But it's a little like the Miami head

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Speaker 1: an interesting approach, but it's still a bit of an unknown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree. Um, A J. Brown is the next guy

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Speaker 1: don't know that. I want like I'm knocking A J.

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Speaker 1: a better spot than he was I guess a month ago. Yeah.

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