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Speaker 1: a new episode of Chargers Weekly. I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: a week while we're all at home, get you as

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Speaker 1: much content as possible. And today my guess is Lance

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Speaker 1: zero Line of NFL dot Com. We're gonna break down

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Speaker 1: his latest mock draft. Hard to believe the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft just one month away. I asked Lance why

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Speaker 1: he has the Chargers moving up in the first round

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Speaker 1: to select a quarterback. We also discuss his favorite players

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Speaker 1: in this twenty twenty NFL draft class. All right, guys

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Speaker 1: are about one month away from the twenty twenty NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: Please be joined by Land zero Line of NFL dot Com. Lance,

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the business. You do all

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Speaker 1: these player profiles. Lance, I want to just start there.

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Speaker 1: How long does it take for you to do these

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Speaker 1: profiles that people are viewing on a daily basis leading

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Speaker 1: up to the draft? Starts in October? Really, you know

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Speaker 1: it starts at the back end of October, where I've

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Speaker 1: got enough game tape on, you know, a few different

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Speaker 1: prospects where I can plug some stuff in. But really

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Speaker 1: you're basically talking for the most part in November all

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Speaker 1: the way through about April twentieth, so five hundred players

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Speaker 1: have to be done, and you have your your latest

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Speaker 1: mock draft two point zero. You have the Chargers moving

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Speaker 1: up from six to three to grab twoah Tunga via

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Speaker 1: looa quarterback. We know that Tyrod Taylor is under center

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Speaker 1: very intriguing? Why do you say tah here at number three? Well,

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Speaker 1: I just took a shot here. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: really doesn't matter. I had one in five switch, you know,

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Speaker 1: flip flopping spots, Miami moving up to take Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: just to kind of shake up the board a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So you know, that's why I took a little shot

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Speaker 1: here is they're a team that needs quarterback la I

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