1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: Ron an Anien. Is there a light for the check England? 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Is there a check the check in on light? Life? 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Got top top down? Do the car Doctor? I can 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: rant about this whole day. You buy an O two censor, 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: they give you I don't know, two ounces of anti cs, 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: of which you use a schmir Welcome to the radio 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: home of ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: is where car owners the world overturned to for their 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: a busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: take your calls. At eight five and now he running. 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the dip in the road 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: and what that dip does. And I've come to the 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: conclusion the dip is created by a dope. I've seen it. 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: I keep experiencing this, and I'll probably talk about this 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: for a while yet, but today I just want to 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: talk about it real quick because we've got a lot 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: of calls already lined up today. Welcome to board. Welcome 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor. By the way, so the dip 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: in the road if you travel down Crescent Avan, allen Dale, 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: New Jersey. You'll come to a bridge that was washed 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: out a couple of years back, and they rebuilt the bridge, 24 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: and I don't know what the county spent. It was 25 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: four million dollars or some ridiculous amount of money that 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: that they spent. And you know there's a dip. You 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: traveled down Credit Joop and it doesn't matter what speed 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: you're going, all right, if you're in a plow truck, 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: and I know this from experience, you can be doing 30 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: thirty miles an hour and have the plow three quarters 31 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: of the way off the ground. Darn if the plow 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: doesn't and that is exactly what you say when you're 33 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: not on radio, if the plow doesn't smack the asphalt, 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: because it's aboo one of those deals. You know, somebody 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: didn't design that right. Somebody had to know that that 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: was going to create a dip, but yet they built 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: the thing anyway. They just kept putting it together. They 38 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: couldn't get it straight. And this sad part is for 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: years to come and maybe generations, as they continue to 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: pave the road and repave the road, that dip is 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: always going to be there. Enter the Honda c RV No. 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: Six Honda CRV coum into the shop this week, and 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: Elizabeth has been trying to piece this car back together. 44 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: Hard working girl, she's she's a young woman. I should 45 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: say I apologize. She's, you know, trying to get it 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: together and proceed down the road of life, no pun intended. 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: And this oh six Honda is her means of transportation 48 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: back and forth to her job where she works very 49 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: hard to take care of herself and her mom. And 50 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: this two d and six thousand miles CRV that she's 51 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: literally pieced together. She just they just paid somebody to 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: put a transmission in a while back was five six 53 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: months ago that you know, it was a used transmission. 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: This is all she could afford. They put it together, 55 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: they made it work. And here she is. She's on 56 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: my doorstep now telling me about a a a hard 57 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: cranking problem. It doesn't crank smoothly when it's cold, only 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: when it's cold. So I I work it to experience it. 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: I get the problem, I make it happen. I go, yeah, 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: this sounds like a starter issue of some kind. Gotta 61 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: take it apart. Probably gonna put a starter in. Take 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: it apart, which is no easy task on the CRV 63 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: because the genius is a Honda decided that they were 64 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: going to use a shoehorn and six pounds of wheelbearing 65 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: grease to get the engine to fit into the compartment, 66 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: along with the start of the intake manifold, the radiator, 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: the trans and everything else that they shoved in here, 68 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: so that when you wanted to work on anything, it 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: was unless you were changing the oil or the air filter. 70 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Everything else is a pain in the neck. You don't 71 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: You don't say that word when you're not on radio either. 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: So took off the intake manifold, the air intake duck, 73 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: took apart a bunch of little connectors that a two 74 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles and fifteen years old just kind of 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: disintegrate in your hands. So it's a real great repair. 76 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: You want to do it, but you deal with it. 77 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: It's it fixed the car and for on you right, 78 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: what I always tell you, And that's when I saw 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: the dope, I mean the dip. I don't know if 80 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: I think they're interchangeable. I don't think it matters. The 81 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: genius that put the starter in when he did the 82 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: transmission left probably an eighth of an inch or more 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: gap at one end of the starter. He put the 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: starter in at an angle. Now most people would, you know, 85 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: straighten it out. You don't want to be a doper dip. 86 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: And he just add a heck where they tightened the balls. 87 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: Whether he saw it or not, you had to see it. 88 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: I mean it was you took the intake manifold off. 89 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: You're looking at it. It would be like looking at 90 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: the Grand Canyon and all of a sudden somebody filled 91 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: it into the point where all of a sudden there 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: wasn't a gap anymore. Like Wow, what's what's wrong with 93 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: this picture? So I got the starter out, which was 94 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: no easy test because he really worked the bottom bolt. 95 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: He really I had to put and I'm not kidding, 96 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: I had to put. I have a a twenty four 97 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: inch half inch breaker bar courtesy the folk. Should snap 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: on that I keep standing up right in my card 99 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: of doom. When I'm going for the and and I 100 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: mean the bolt. The breaker bar was starting to bend 101 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: all right, halfens driving. Thank God for cross fit um 102 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: and you know, and the bolt finally came loose. And 103 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,119 Speaker 1: then I proceeded over the course of forty five minutes 104 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: to work the bolt out. That just didn't want to 105 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: come out a little bit of spray. Some pop blasters 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: soak it in. Work the bolt, pp blaster, work it 107 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: in breaker bar. You know, got the bolt out, took 108 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: out three threads with it because they were bombed together. 109 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: Because I think this guy thought he was tightening up 110 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: the bolt that would hold to George Washington Bridge from 111 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: New York, New Jersey together. I wanted to make sure 112 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: it didn't fall out and get lost. So and then 113 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: it became, you know, rethread the bolt, you know, working 114 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: from an angle, your sideways with a mirror, and you're 115 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: going this way. And but I looked at I looked 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: at the starter. It was in at such an angle 117 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: that it actually wore the teeth of the starter at 118 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of an angle. Naturally the angle would 119 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: change and it wore the flywheel at that same angle. 120 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: You know, you had to see it, you know, And 121 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: that's the problem. This is what ort to repair is about. 122 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: All right. You've got to approach or to repair, just 123 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: like the way you would build that road properly. You 124 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: don't want to create a dip because it's gonna be 125 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: there and it's gonna affect people, and it's gonna cost 126 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: more money. I get it. The guys that made the 127 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: road there on Crescent Ham, I get that that's gonna 128 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: cost money to fix. Do it right the first time. 129 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: Take the extra five minutes, go back straight in the 130 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: road out and make it right. Go back. Put the 131 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: starter in. Why doesn't it fit? It fit for me. 132 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: As soon as I took the two bolts out, which 133 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: was the bigger, the hardest part, I put the starter 134 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: and it has a little bit of corrosion around the case. 135 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: I had to take a knife and scrape it out. Man, 136 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: and and it went. You don't want to be a dope, 137 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: I mean a dip doesn't matter. You don't want to 138 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: be one or the other. You don't want to create one, 139 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: that's for sure, because that's doing auto repair the wrong way. 140 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: You want to do it the right way. Make sure 141 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: the starter fits, make sure the road is smooth, because 142 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 1: it's gonna be there for a long time. To come 143 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: along and welcome Ron and Ainting the car doctor here 144 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: at five zero nine zero zero. There are a lot 145 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: of phone calls. I understand. Let's get over and start 146 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: talking to people. Mark in Connecticut, let's let's go brother, 147 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: how are you today? Not bad? Not bad yourself here 148 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: and getting ready to go. Yeah, and I understand we 149 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: we we kept you up. We know we're we understand 150 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: your night worker. We appreciate you hanging on. So so 151 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: let's talk about that transmission from last week. Got a lot. 152 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny certain things light everybody up. Uh, 153 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, you can tell what you can tell the 154 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: listening audience because I got a lot of phone calls 155 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: and emails over a Turbo four trans in that tea 156 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: bucket that wasn't working. It's the funniest thing. Um, you 157 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: can tell who all the ex hot rotters are, and 158 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: you can tell who all who drove the big block 159 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: chavelle in high school. Right, it's just h yeah, yeah, 160 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: So talk to me what's on your mind? Well, Um, 161 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: after I listen to you guys talk, I'm you know, 162 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: I got like partially into it because I was on 163 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: my way into work. Has pulled a double that day, 164 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: But I'm like listen to him, like, man, I go, 165 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: that sounds identical to the issue that I had, and 166 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: I had it. Um, it's weird. I got a Turbo 167 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: four hundreds, but it's in a seventy nine g J 168 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: ten pickup. Truck because back then you can either get 169 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: the the cork flight transmission or the g M Purple 170 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: four hundred just made the taste by all the guts 171 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: for the Turble four hundreds. And I've encountered it once 172 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: before and in a Chevelle, and um, I'm like, you know, 173 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: I tested the pump pressure and all that stuff, and 174 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: thinking maybe was a torque converter and you know something, 175 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe something getting stuck in the valve body 176 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: or or even you know, sometimes putting in that filter 177 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: sometimes you can come unseated and there if it's not 178 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: in there properly and roll and behold. All two times 179 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: that I've encountered the issue was an accumulator pump piston. 180 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: It was it was stuck, so you're not able to 181 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: build that pressure up to to move those four gears. 182 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: And I put in gear and like it would sit 183 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: for ten fifteen seconds and then it would kind of 184 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: creep creep along. I'm like, what that was going on? 185 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: Here I go and you know, the one time, I 186 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: basically ended up smoking the transmission because it was burning 187 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: up to the clutches. But it was a good learning 188 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: point when I m had to rebuild my first turb 189 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: before hundreds. It was a little it did the actuate 190 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: her in there for the in the spring and incubulator 191 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: pump wasn't wasn't working right, and uh, that was causing 192 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: my issues. And then I encountered it the second time. 193 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I'm not going through all 194 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: this problem. I went right to that pump piston before 195 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: I ended up scattering the transmission and that was the issue. 196 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't working right. Um. Yeah, once I would, you know, 197 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: fix that problem, you know, and I wan't threw throwing 198 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: parts at everything, you know for converters, you know the 199 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, the front pump and everything and taking things 200 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: down looking at it. And then on the first time 201 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: I did it, and once I solved it the first time, 202 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: I had accountered the second time pever like ten or 203 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: fifteen years later, I'm like, hey, let me check this out. 204 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: It's funny. It's funny to life lessons you remain, you 205 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: retain and remember working on a car, right, Oh yeah, 206 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: that was that, you know, I was raised. I mean 207 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: that's all I drive now. And my wife drives a 208 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen Toyota Sieanna because we've got the kids. 209 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, that's safe for the car. I drive my 210 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: junk that I can don't have to go through remissions 211 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: and I can work on him. It's got a carburetor 212 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: on it. How many miles your wife seeingna have on it? 213 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: She's got both a forty eight thousand miles. We got 214 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: the extended Uh you know mylogonic because she does driving. Now. Now, 215 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to give away this. Oh she leased it. 216 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if she, if she owns it, 217 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: if you own it, I don't want to give away 218 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: the second hour's opening. But if if she owns it, well, 219 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: if your podcast, if you can listen to the second 220 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: hour open, I'm gonna tell you a real world story 221 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: about Toyota WS trans fluid and uh, the problems that 222 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: come up because it's it's not bulletproof as everybody thinks. 223 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: By the way, on a quick note before I go, 224 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your calling me, Mark, do you know 225 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: just a point of note? Uh, point of interest. I 226 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: don't know why I remember this, but I do. In 227 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, General Motors did a study on the 228 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: life expectancy of a term or four hundred transmission and 229 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: they came up with it was gonna go a predicted 230 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: mileage of two hundred and fifty thousand miles alight, and 231 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: and and they and they decided that that was too 232 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: many miles, so they asked the engineers to step in, 233 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: and by nine seventy two they headed down to a 234 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: life expectancy of a hundred and ten thousand miles. So 235 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: the engineers. The engineer did this job and got a bonus. 236 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: So that's some time. We just we just made things 237 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: too well back then. Mark, I appreciate the call. I'll 238 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: get some sleep, brother, have a good night shift tonight. 239 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: And uh, we appreciate the input. I'm running any of 240 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: the car Doctor eight five five five six zero nine zero, 241 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: give us a call. Let's talk about it. I'll be 242 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: back right after this when you get keep Ron's number 243 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: hand eight five five five six zero nine nine zero 244 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: zero for when you really need advice on your car. 245 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: Here's Rob. Let's gonna talk to Larry and IOWA two 246 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: thousand eleven gmc larry. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 247 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? Ron, thanks for taking my call. Hey, UM, 248 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: I have um it's a gas motor, so I have 249 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: the six l ninety transmission in this um, so like 250 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: the last last week, um, um we had like zero 251 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: and below zero weather. Um when I was shifting into 252 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: reverse and or drive. You know, this is after the 253 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: truck has sat overnight, so like when I'm leaving for 254 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: work in the morning. UM, so I would and there 255 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: would be a delay engagement. Um. And and after that, 256 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: after it did it the first time, it wouldn't happen, 257 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: you know, any other time throughout the day. Um. It 258 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: was just like after the truck had set for like 259 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: eight hours, right, and and it's it's both gears. Now 260 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: are you letting the are you letting the truck warm up? Which, 261 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, if you yeah, I normally let 262 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: it run for about five to ten minutes before take off, 263 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: so it's it's warmed up at that stage. There's no 264 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: there's no dash warning lights on, there's no indication of no, 265 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: not not for not for a transmission code. No, because 266 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: because I do have a I do have a scanner 267 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: that will scan all models, and I've never had a 268 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: transmission code come up. Okay, so we the good news 269 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: is there's no faults. The bad news is there is 270 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: and how many miles are on this just over. You know, 271 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: the the issue is this could be anything from a 272 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: restriction in the filter. Is this sort of like the 273 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: last goal, But this could be a restriction in the filter. 274 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: This could be an air leak up around the seal 275 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: where the filter sits, although it's not common, but it 276 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: is possible. So this could be a filter related issue. 277 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: This could be hardening of the seals that that are, 278 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: you know, in the trans case itself because of the 279 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: mile is the fact that it happens reverse and first, 280 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, if this was the first gear only, I'd say, 281 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: maybe we've got a low Sprague assembly or low low 282 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Sprague your assembly first gear, something that you know, preventing 283 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: it from happening. Uh. You know, obviously it's got to 284 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: go to a shop. They've got to do a pump 285 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: pressure test. You know what's pump pressure? Like maybe we 286 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: have a pump issue. You know. The question is how 287 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: bad of a delay is it? Five seconds? Eight seconds? Um? 288 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: I would say about three? I mean, you know it 289 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: doesn't yeah, and I would say three three is not 290 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: a lot. Know, well, let me say it like this 291 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: three second delay? Uh and and how long has it 292 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: been doing this? Um? Well? Like right, now it's not 293 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: like because right now we're in the thirties, we're heading up. 294 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's getting warmer. Um right now, it doesn't 295 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: do it. It was just like when it was like 296 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: zero or below. Okay, did it just start this season 297 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: or yeah, well I bought it in July, so I 298 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: so this is the first winner I've had it. So 299 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, I would say it like this, all right, 300 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: understand which where I'm coming from. You're not going to 301 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: take the trans out and fix A or B. You're 302 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna overhaul it, all right, So you know 303 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: do we want to do we want to deal with 304 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: the three second delay under an extreme temperature condition as 305 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: it sits, or pull the trans and spend you know, 306 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of you know, you sit there and you go, well, 307 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: let's say you feed the kids, um, you know, sleeping doors, 308 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, college who needs you know, Um, now we 309 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: we we could try some miracles in a can as 310 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: I refer to them. All right, there are products out 311 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: there that you know you've got where you highway, you 312 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: gotta you got a local Rileyoto parts. You know, they've 313 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: got a great chemical selection. Perhaps they'll have something on 314 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: the shelf. I'm thinking, I'm looking for something that's gonna 315 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: be rated, you know, softens internal trans seals or restores 316 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: internal trans seal seal. You know, remember an automatic transmission 317 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: is all hydraulic, right, and you know it's just I 318 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: always think about the bulldozer you see work on the 319 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: side of the road when you're stuck in traffic on 320 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: why do these guys have to work today? And the 321 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: way that blade goes up and down, and the hydraulic 322 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: pistons going and out, and you know that's all hydraulics 323 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: and seals. If every once in a while you'll see 324 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: one that's you know, got got a wet spot, it's leaking, 325 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: just what an automatic trans does. The rubber seal wears 326 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: out of the rubber seal, loses its ability to maintain 327 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: its seal. Uh. You know, is there something that's going 328 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: to help improve you know, shift quality, hydraulic pressure, softened seals, 329 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: seal the seal if you want to, If I can 330 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: say it like that, and I know from experience, I've 331 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: looked online at a rallyoto dot com. Um, I can 332 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: imagine what the stores have in them. I would get 333 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: out to my local Rallyota parts. What do they have? 334 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: It can't hurt anything, and I don't want to promote 335 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: this is a way to fix it on a permanent basis. 336 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: But if it can get you another thirty thousand miles, 337 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: fifty thousand miles, you don't know how long it's gonna last. 338 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: But you know, it's sort of like you and me, right, 339 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: the trucks nine years old at this age, I don't 340 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: know how long I'm gonna last. You know how long 341 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: the truck's gonna last. You you're roll dic and you 342 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: shoot for the best. Um. You know that would be 343 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: that would be one way to approach it, just trying 344 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: to be dollar conscious so that you're not you know, 345 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: just yeah, the easy things. He overhaul the trans um. 346 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: The other answer is perhaps we could drop the pan, 347 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: take a look at the filter. It probably wouldn't hurt 348 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: to service it, do a fluid exchange to see what's 349 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: sort of approvement, if any, we get from that. But 350 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: those are your two choices. I appreciate the call area 351 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: Monan car Doctor. I'll be back right after this. Welcome 352 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: back run in any of the car Doctor Elio zero 353 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: winning in New York City. You're on what's going on? 354 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: Hi there? Hi, okay, I have two questions. First question 355 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: has to do with a leak that was seemed that 356 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: was in the trunk and the with the doughnut is 357 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: and I just happened to see water on that piece 358 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: that covers that whole floor, and it was wet, and 359 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: I just thought I had knocked over a bottle of 360 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: a gallon of water, which I usually keep in the car, 361 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: so I thought that was it. I didn't pay any 362 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: attention then, being wet, so I said, let me look 363 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: under this. So I looked under and the whole donut 364 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: area was filled with water. You know. I took it 365 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: to the mechanic, a local mechanic around the corner, and 366 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: he emptied all that water out and he kept it 367 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: the car and said that you know, he said later 368 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: that he took a hose and just went over let 369 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: the water run over the car for about half an hour, 370 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: and he didn't nothing happen. He didn't see a leak. Uh. 371 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: So I paid him a hundred dollars and I brought 372 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: the car home, and of course maybe and then I 373 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: just said, okay, it was fixed, because I had to 374 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 1: take it up to another place. Where they oiled it 375 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: and dried it out so forth, because so that I 376 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't continue to rush. The wheel and the rim were rusted. 377 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: And the first mechanics said that the car had been 378 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: sitting the whole bottom of the car had been sitting 379 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: in water, that so much water was there, but the 380 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: car is I have not had the car anywhere other 381 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: than my parking space for it to be sitting in 382 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: any water. Um, so then I thought it was repaired. 383 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: So maybe three months later, I said, let me just 384 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: check your water filled with order again. About a quarter 385 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: of water, No, just about a quarter of a quart 386 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: of water was down on the donut part. And I 387 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: just took it back to him again, and he says, well, 388 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: I'll just have to check it again. And he says, 389 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: I said, well, am I going to have to pay 390 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: you again for this? And then if if it's not 391 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: repaired and I bring it back and I have to 392 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: pay you again, he says, well, you know we did 393 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: most of it, which indicated he's going to charge me something, right, 394 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: and he never fixed it. So I think the wisdom 395 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: of Solomon is required in a situation like this, whinning 396 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: and and and and here's why I say that. My 397 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: My first question to you is is this your regular mechanic? 398 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: You have a relationship with this guy kind of? I 399 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: have a couple of places that I go to for 400 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: different things, small things. He's not a big he said, 401 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: I would have to take it to an auto what 402 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: do you call it? A body shop? A body shop? Yeah? Yeah, 403 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: so he's not that kind of a worker. You know 404 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: this is and you know and so so. So the 405 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: balance here becomes what if he said to you, hey, whinny, 406 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: I can I can work on this, I can give 407 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: it my best shot, but I may or may not 408 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: be able to get all of it. Would you have 409 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: still paid him to look at it, to try him? Yeah? 410 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: I would have. Okay, so pretend you did that. It'll 411 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: leave your mind because the issue really comes back to 412 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: his ken he and will he fix it. Water leaks 413 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: are a pain in the neck. It's water. Water has 414 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: its water hasn't finds its own level. Not not the lecture, 415 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: but it's just it's just you just have to approach 416 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: it a little differently. It's not like doing breaks or tires, 417 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: something that has a fixed beginning and generally a fixed end. 418 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: This can be an open ended thing. There's no rule 419 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: that says, ay, there's more than one water leak can 420 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: be it doesn't redevelop three months later, and it almost 421 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: sounds like he fixed it and then something else popped 422 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: up because the well wasn't as full this time as 423 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: it was the last time. Right, that's the way you 424 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: that's the way you said. So yeah, so think of 425 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: it like that. Apply. Now. Let me say say one thing. 426 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: When I closed the trunk, and I pointed it out 427 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: to him, Oh, no, I don't think that's it. When 428 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: I closed the trunk, whether where the trunk meets the car, 429 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, and once it's closed at the please, I 430 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: saw that on either side of that on the car, 431 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: I saw two little holes. So I said, well, could 432 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: that be it? He says, no, that's not it. I 433 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: mean I just right now, I just plugged it in 434 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: with some more tight that that play stuff. I just 435 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: plugged that in. So I don't know, because it just 436 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: last week that I took it back to him. So 437 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't know whether that could be it. But it's 438 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: a small leak obviously in A thousand and seven, and 439 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: I never noticed anything before. One of the one of 440 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: the ways, and it's it's it's it's a little it's 441 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: a little I want to say dangerous, but it's a 442 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: little different. I'm not sure how he does it. I 443 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: mean the way we do water leaks in the shop 444 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: and have for years and years is and you have 445 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: to trust the guy you're working with. Is we locked 446 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: somebody in the trunk, and you know, we'll put somebody 447 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: in the trunk and will It's not a question of 448 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: hitting it with a hose hard um. You know, we'll 449 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: stand there with a hose and hold your thumb over 450 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: the hose and you know, straight up and we make 451 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: it rain on the car. You know, you have to 452 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: kind of replicate, you know, the force of the water 453 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: hitting the car as if it was out in the 454 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: rain or out in weather. Because sometimes hitting what is 455 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: a funny thing. You take a hose, spray it directly 456 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: out of vehicle with a leak, it may not go in, 457 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't find its way. You have to kind of 458 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: let it have that natural progression and let it let 459 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: it find its path. It's it's like years ago when 460 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: the Army Corps of Engineers changed the I can't remember where, 461 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: but somewhere they changed the direction or the position of 462 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: the Mississippi, and then when the floods came, the water 463 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: resumed back flowing the way it wanted to. You know, 464 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: it's like, don't mess with God, just let the water 465 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: go where it wants. And that's sort of what he's like, 466 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: trying to find water leaks. Um, so we'll put somebody 467 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: in the car. Where do we see the wet The 468 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: other thing he could try is, as a suggestion, if 469 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: he's not aware, and I'm not trying to tell him 470 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: or anybody had to do their job, we'll take flour 471 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: and put flour down around the rubber seal and or 472 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: just something that will get displaced. And then you know, 473 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: close the lid, lift the lid, is there a spot 474 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: an impression in the rubber seal that's you know, still 475 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: got flour on it such that we know the rubber 476 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: seal isn't contacting the trun the deck lid, uh that 477 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: you know there's no seal there. And then last, as 478 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: crazy as it sounds, we see a lot of cars 479 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: with water leaks, especially the Hondas. For some reason, right 480 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: tell him to take a look at the tail lights. 481 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: We see a lot of Hondas with bad seals around 482 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: the tail lights, and it will leak water just like 483 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: you're describing it so and no nobody ever thinks to 484 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: look at the tail lights because they're looking up, not sideways. 485 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: But you know the fact is when the water runs 486 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: off the car through that channel just under the deck 487 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: lid on the body seem it's directed right at the 488 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: top of the tail lights and it finds its rimber water. 489 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: Water has a mind of its own. It's like a 490 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: three year old. It's gonna go where it once when 491 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: it wants. And right, so he can charge me and 492 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: then that's not the problem and I just pay him again. Right, Well, 493 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: it's if I take it to the dealer, they're going 494 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: to find a whole bunch of whatever. Well, it's you 495 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: know what this is all about, finding the guy that 496 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: wants to fix it in that relationship. Water leaks, you're 497 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: not easy. It's not it's it's not unreasonable to ask. Now, 498 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: in all fairness, he is also right. Body shops tend 499 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: to have a better track record in some cases, not 500 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: all cases, but body shops have to deal with more 501 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: water leaks, I think on a regular basis, and mechanical 502 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: shops in some instances, and you know, perhaps it is 503 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: a body shop a body shop type of repair. Only 504 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, only the attending physician, as I say, can 505 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: make that judgment. Um. So a second question, okay, second question, 506 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: um of who? My car is a two thousand seven 507 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: kind of accord? It has not quite forty miles. I'm 508 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: in New York City, so I don't drive much, and 509 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: I was coming through the park last week and it 510 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: hit a big pothole and it just splintered the whole tire, 511 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: one of the tires. So I took it to the 512 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: same mechanic around the corner and he put the doughnut 513 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: on and and he also told me that one of 514 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: the other back tires was cracked. But so I I 515 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: took it up to this place in the Bronx and 516 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: brought to four new Michelin tires. Uh. And then the 517 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: man says, well, you know, I said, well, can you 518 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: just check since I hit that big pothole that nothing 519 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: else is wrong with the you know, the wheel break 520 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: whatever is the wheel is attached to. And he said no, 521 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: there was nothing wrong. And then the head guy came 522 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: over and he says, you know, I think you need 523 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: you need new struts. So I said, new struss I says, well, 524 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 1: my car doesn't bounce something down, you're gonna need new 525 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: So he ended up talking me into getting four new struts. Now, 526 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking that I really need struts because you know, 527 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: the car was forty thousand miles and I don't really 528 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: drive it, and it was the smooth drive before, you know, 529 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: and the you know, and I know every time I 530 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: seem to go to these larger places, they end up 531 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: telling me I need something. And as a woman, you know, 532 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, I don't want problems. Go ahead, Yeah, 533 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure. The question is, you know, what did he 534 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: see in the strut? There's there's there, there's there's two three, 535 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: two to three reasons why. You know, structs are there 536 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: as ride and you picked it out right, you know, 537 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: how does the ride fit? Uh? You know, are the struts? 538 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: Are any of the struts leaking? Is there any physical 539 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: damage to them that they're displaced? And you know, see 540 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: maybe they shot the alignment after they did the tires 541 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 1: and they saw something out of line that had to 542 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: be corrected by replacing a strut. You know, it's it's, 543 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: it's it's it's any combination of those. But you know, 544 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: it's easy enough to prove. Here's the physical damage, here's 545 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: the alignment specs, this is what it's supposed to be, 546 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: this is what it is. Something's bent, it has to 547 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: be replaced, you know, or here's the ride quality. So 548 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, you can't at this point, it's 549 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: already done. I think, you know, in in the situation 550 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: where you know, right well, you know, always remember one 551 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: of the problems with auto repair. And the boys aren't 552 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: gonna like it when I say this, but in a 553 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: lot of places it's it's it's they're on a commission basis. 554 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: And we all know that, right and you know, it's 555 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: it's not something you really want to go through. Everybody's 556 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: trying to sell something because everybody's trying to buy that 557 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: next piece of law and furniture. One of the things 558 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: I always try to encourage people to do is find 559 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: one mechanic, you know, the nickel or ten dollars or 560 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: fifty dollars, you say, by going to this guy who 561 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: is cheaper than that guy, But that guy does this cheaper, 562 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: you know what. It all comes out in the wash, 563 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: and not to lecture, but it just does. It's it's 564 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: it's better to have that relationship with one guy that 565 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: you trust, that you know, that makes sense, that's not 566 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, unfortunately the struts that you may or 567 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: may not need, because now you're gonna think about that, 568 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: trying to think about it. When he go see the 569 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: other guy about the water leak and the trunk, explain 570 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: it to him the way I explained it to him. 571 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: And if you need something, you know where to find us. 572 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Zero the Carders coming back right 573 00:28:51,840 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: after this. Back it's going to Paul in Maine. Twelve 574 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: Dodge Caravan Paul go, I got three minutes. Yeah, excuse me, uh. 575 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: The Dodge two thousand, twelve Dodge Grand Caravan about a 576 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: hundred and five thousand UM. I bought it not quite 577 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: a year ago. I didn't get it off the lot 578 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: to five and the engine light come on. So I 579 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: took it to a patch uh place, and they put 580 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: the diagnostics on it. It come back as the number 581 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: two cylinder was misfiring. He said it could be a 582 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: spot plug or the coil. So I replaced all six 583 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: spot plugs just because of the cow was new to me, 584 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: and I put a new coil on that number two cylinder, 585 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: and it didn't take care of the problem. Uh. A 586 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,479 Speaker 1: little while later, five six miles later, the light come 587 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: back on again. So brought it down again and the 588 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: guy said, jeez, same thing, number two cylinder. He said 589 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: it could it could also be the injector. So I 590 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: put a new injector on that number two cylinder. Um 591 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: and and this keeps happening every so often, and the 592 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: lights on again. I didn't bring it down this time, 593 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: but sure it's going to say the same thing, number 594 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: two cylinder misfiring and what else could be going on? 595 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: And this is a three point six leader on assuming Yeah, um, 596 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: have you seen any of the information from Chrysler regarding this. 597 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: Let's see, there's a bulletin, if I remember correctly, out 598 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: there that talks about this particular problem. Actually there's more 599 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: than a few. Um oh nine dish double O two, 600 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: dish fourteen. There's a revision A, there's a revision B 601 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: where they talk very clearly about you know, and you 602 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: go through the routine, maybe not necessarily changing parts, but 603 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: you would swap spark plug, you would move injector around, 604 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: you would do some mechanical tests, and that's probably the 605 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: next step where somebody's going to do a mechanical compression 606 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: test and a cylinder leakedown test, and they are they 607 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: are likely going to find that the cylinder leakedown test fails, 608 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: be as the exhaust valves are carboned up and the 609 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,239 Speaker 1: or they're you know, they're pitted there. So you know 610 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: it's Chrysler has extended the warranty on the cylinder heads. 611 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: And that bulletin talks about it. I think unfortunately trying 612 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: to remember if it's a hundred thousand miles or a 613 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand miles, so you may be in 614 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: it or you may just be out. Uh, you've got 615 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: to get your hands on that bulletin again on nine 616 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: double O two four B and a. UM. Actually, if 617 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: you if you somebody has christ or service information, if 618 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: you just plug in P zero three oh two you 619 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: make model and start looking through bulletins, it'll come up. 620 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: It's it's it's all over the place. It's like a 621 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: rash um a lot of conversation about it. Now, you know, 622 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: obviously we're talking about somebody with a better skill set 623 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: than just the part's house. It's plugging in a scan 624 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: tool and saying, yeah, it's a misfire. We'll try this 625 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: and this and this, somebody to diagnose it. Now, you know, 626 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: some of the solution might be that. And it depends 627 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: on the severity of it that you know, carbon deposits 628 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: on the valves may be able to be repaired. It 629 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: depends if it's carbon deposits on the intake valves. You know, 630 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: a fuel tank audited Berryman fuel system cleaner in the 631 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: tank would likely take care of it or at least 632 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: help it could um exhaust valves, exhaust valves or a 633 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: problem for any kind of fuel tank cleaner or additive 634 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: because that's after the combustion cycle and the cleaners. So 635 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: what you could do is and you just keep this 636 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind. That I'm not saying 637 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: run out and buy a candidates and try it, but 638 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: keep this as part of the solution. You know, if 639 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: you're out of warrantine and you gotta pay for this, 640 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna be expensive. If you want to try something 641 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: simple UM Berryman Products dot com. Go look at their 642 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: their their their top end engine cleaner. It's a pour 643 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: in that you will, you know, pull the plugs, crank 644 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: the engine around, open the exhaust valve on the on 645 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: the problem cylinder and fill it up and to the 646 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: point that it will soak. You get the idea, you're 647 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: kind of sticking your finger down into the solution that's 648 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: in the cylinder and let it soak overnight. And what 649 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: that will do is that could possible we dissolve carbon 650 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: deposits on the exhaust wealth to the point that it 651 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: solves the problem. But it will it will you know, 652 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: give you a direction. Now, do you have to do 653 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: the heads or not? But you're only gonna do all 654 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: this after somebody does some mechanical compression tests and a 655 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: cylinder leak down tests, and you're likely to find Barnman 656 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 1: Fuel System Cleaner at Oriley Oto parts um online at 657 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: rallyoto dot com. Good luck to you, Paul. I'm already 658 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: hear of the woes. This could be an expensive repair 659 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: time for some diagnosis. Like I said, he five zero 660 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: the car doctors cruising back right after this. Boy, it 661 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: was like this, I started the hour and then here 662 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: we are, like you know, just so it's it's it's like, 663 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, we're we in a time machine at the 664 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 1: Lorian or something. We went eighty eight miles an hour 665 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: and we just shot to the future. I blows my 666 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: mind how fast the hours go by doing this radio show. 667 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: Just a point and you know, I gotta tell you 668 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: a car doctor Nation. We really appreciate how much you 669 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: guys love us, and we we feel the love each 670 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: and every week. So obviously there's a podcast problem, all right, 671 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: And to clear the air and to make sure everybody's 672 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: aware of it, there is a podcast problem. Yes, we 673 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: are aware of it. No, it's not anything to our 674 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: knowledge that we did. We walked into studio last week 675 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden this problem was glitching. That 676 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: the bunch of things were going on without getting technical 677 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: passwords were changed, and all of a sudden they're not 678 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: archiving the show and distributing the show properly. For the record, 679 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: we've contacted Spreaker twice now. We've had two email convert 680 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: well to we sent out two emails. We've had one conversation, 681 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: uh from an order taker basically that seems to think, well, 682 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: you know, I just send us a bunch of information 683 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: and you know we'll get back to you. Well, you 684 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: know what, we're still standing here with our hand on 685 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: our backsides waiting. UM. We appreciate your responses out there folks, 686 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: we feel your pain. We ask you to hang in 687 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: there with us. It's something that we're working real hard 688 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: to resolve behind the scenes, and that we may be 689 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: making some changes as a result. But we we know it, 690 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: we're aware of it, and we love you for your concern. 691 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: I'm run an any in the car doctor, reminding you 692 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: once again, good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see 693 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: you