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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: with her Radio. Welcome to another episode of the Almost

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Speaker 1: Famous Podcast ashe and I cannot be more excited to

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Speaker 1: be talking to you on week two of Matt James

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Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor. Ashley, what's up? Hi? Ben? Not much?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have a lot to say about this episode,

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Speaker 1: mostly about Victoria. Of all I have to talk about

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Speaker 1: today's Victoria. It's a lot, isn't it. Well, Hey, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna break down this week's episode in just a bit.

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Speaker 1: Before we do, we do have some incredible guests today.

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Speaker 1: Chris Bandy and Luke Pell are coming on here in

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Speaker 1: just a second. Chris Bandy is a country singer. Luke

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Speaker 1: Pell was in his music video. We gotta figure out

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Speaker 1: what in the heck how did Luke Pell getting a

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Speaker 1: country music video? And Luke Pell is a country singer.

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Speaker 1: And also later on in the podcast, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Bennett Jordan's on as well as somebody I'm super pumped

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Speaker 1: to talk to and I know Bachelor Nation uh is

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Speaker 1: falling in love with this person via social media. Susannah

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Speaker 1: the Bachelor Analyst. Now you might have seen her recently

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Speaker 1: with her Bachelor Instagram kind of breaking down all the

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Speaker 1: data from the seasons and talking about who gets more followers,

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Speaker 1: who's spending more time on air, who's not whatever. It's

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Speaker 1: super interesting and actually I know you and I are

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Speaker 1: both fans of her. Yeah, it's gonna be really cool

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Speaker 1: to get her insights from this season, Like she has

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Speaker 1: real data, Guys, Like I'm looking at a chart right now.

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Speaker 1: It's like forty two point four percent of the screen

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Speaker 1: time is given to white contestants, eight percent is given

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Speaker 1: to non contestants, So like the lead and Chris Harrison,

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Speaker 1: so very interesting stuff like that. It's Uh, it's a

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Speaker 1: super interesting concept she came up with. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: about it until tatious season, so maybe it existed before.

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Speaker 1: And but we're gonna talk to her. We're also gonna

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Speaker 1: break down the episode. It's an action packed almost podcast,

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Speaker 1: uh Ashley before we get into our very first interview.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned last week, and we're gonna mention again

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Speaker 1: if you go to my fan threads dot com slash

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Speaker 1: almost famous now. My fan Threads is a company I

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Speaker 1: started with a buddy a little over a year ago

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Speaker 1: and we do UH on demand printing UH for peril. Well,

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Speaker 1: Almost Famous has teamed up with my fan threads to

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Speaker 1: start in a parel line. This stuff is great. It

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Speaker 1: just says like almost famous. Which who doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: wear something that says almost Famous? Uh? You go to

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Speaker 1: my fan threads dot com slash almost Famous to pick

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Speaker 1: up our podcast merchandise. It would be a huge help

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Speaker 1: to us and just I think it's good stuff it is.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for supporting the show. We do so

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Speaker 1: by buying some merch ay. Our very first guest of

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Speaker 1: this podcast is somebody that we have been intrigued by,

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Speaker 1: confused by. Uh. We've been a huge fan of and

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Speaker 1: at times questioned uh. Which is why it's so great

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Speaker 1: to have him on this podcast because now we get

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Speaker 1: to ask him these questions in person, can hear his answers, and,

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Speaker 1: like we always say, once you hear somebody's store worry,

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Speaker 1: it's really hard not to like him. Well, Bennett, welcome

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Speaker 1: to Almost Fame his podcast. Thank you, Thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for having me to be here. How'd going good? Really good?

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Speaker 1: Look what I'm wearing on your behalf? That a girl?

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Speaker 1: I love it? I love it? Stand cozy good good

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Speaker 1: so um Bennett the way that Ben introduced you was

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Speaker 1: so perfect. We like, we loved you. We were confused

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Speaker 1: by you. We're like, what's he thinking? Sometimes? We were

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Speaker 1: always entertained by you. How did how did you come

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Speaker 1: home from filming The Bachelorette and think you're gonna look

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Speaker 1: versus how you did come across? You know, I knew

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Speaker 1: you know, to the extent um the beginning of the journey,

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Speaker 1: scene with themar doing the chateau, you know, be a

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Speaker 1: I didn't have many expectations, but I knew that I

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Speaker 1: I think one of my favorite parts of this last season.

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Speaker 1: And then that scene are and I'm like, Okay, he's

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a great question, Ben, I think, um,

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Speaker 1: So how big was your room? Like? How what was

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Speaker 1: realize that. UM. So you know, certainly had some very impactful,

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Speaker 1: alluding to you know, my background, my childhood, my upbringing

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Speaker 1: that's really required to um, you know, get your full

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Speaker 1: like that. UM, but you know that there was definitely

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Speaker 1: had very very very real feelings you know, flirtation. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: to follow up questions, and I'll start with this one, UM,

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Speaker 1: what was your upbring legs? I don't think we got

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Speaker 1: and you're hoping to tell more of it. What what

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Speaker 1: would you have told Tasha. I mean, obviously you know,

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Speaker 1: on again. Um you were great, uh content for our podcast.

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Speaker 1: We talked about you a ton. Thank you for joining

427
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: us today. Wish you the best. And uh, I think Ashton,

428
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: I've said it for weeks now, even in the midst

429
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 1: of the most confusion about you is we hope to

430
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 1: see on paradise. Uh. We we hope to see there.

431
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Speaker 1: And you know what, if you do pull up in

432
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Speaker 1: a yacht, I'm not gonna blame you. I cannot think

433
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: I would not be mad at you at all. I

434
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Speaker 1: would say that guy is doing it right. Thank yay Man,

435
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate it. Guys, thank you for having

436
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Speaker 1: me on. Have a great one. Well, as we mentioned,

437
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Speaker 1: we're gonna break down this week's episode as we do

438
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: every week during a season. Uh. This is the second

439
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: episode of Matt James this season. Uh. We're really starting

440
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: to get to know the contestants a little more. However,

441
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 1: nothing this episode to me was shocking. Ashley. I want

442
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: to hear if you have the same opinion, and I

443
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: say that because I think what we saw a night

444
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 1: one felt like a good sense of what we got

445
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Speaker 1: on week two. Ashley, I know you have some strong

446
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: feelings about this episode take it away, but yes, yes,

447
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think that we saw a

448
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: lot of the same faces get screen time this episode

449
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: as we did last week. Like the girls that we

450
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: expected to see growth with we got. Uh. When I

451
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Speaker 1: say that, I specifically mean Brie and Sarah. They both

452
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: had great one on ones this week, really meaningful conversations.

453
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 1: But as far as things that are shocking goes, I

454
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: have to disagree because I think that Victoria, her whole

455
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: being is shocking to me, but it wasn't but it

456
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: was expected. I'm not shocked. It was expected. Okay, it

457
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: was expected, you're right, But her as a human being

458
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: to me is beyond Like I was watching that this

459
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: thinking like is she an actress? Because normally you see

460
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: the villains, and you know, you guys, when we use

461
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: the term villain, like the controversial character, because oftentimes villains

462
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 1: are very kind hearted and they they're different than what

463
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: we see on TV. But with controversial characters, we see

464
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: them like give a sly smile, laugh at themselves, be

465
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: cracking jokes to have a sense of self awareness. We

466
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: see them like almost enjoy egging people on. I think

467
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: that with Victoria, this is her natural, constant state of being.

468
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: In every grade of school Shiver went through, and every

469
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Speaker 1: friend group she's ever maybe had, she has the kind

470
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Speaker 1: of personality that I don't know how she can keep

471
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Speaker 1: a friend. As horrible as that is to say, she's

472
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: just the alt She's just a nuisance, and she's so

473
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: reactive to everything. Everything is offensive, everything is rude, everything

474
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Speaker 1: sets her off, and everything is the hugest deal. Ever,

475
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Speaker 1: how do you feel? Yeah, well, here's my take. And

476
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Speaker 1: it's the very first time I've ever watched a season.

477
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Speaker 1: And you know this, and people who have listened to

478
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: the podcast know this. I'm never one to say that

479
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: this thing is scripted, like ever, like I've been in

480
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: it for too long. I would have known by now,

481
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: like it's never been scripted. And after the first episode,

482
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Speaker 1: I I told you, Ashley, Uh, well this seems weird.

483
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: This is the very first time I'm watching this character

484
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: on television. I'm going was it placed? Like? Because this

485
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: feels like a lot and typically like you might not

486
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: be there, be there to make friends but you're there

487
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: to at least try to like get along and not

488
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: start stuff out of nowhere. And it takes a few

489
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: weeks for people to kind of understand each other and

490
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 1: get annoyed by each other. This is fiery right away.

491
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Speaker 1: But here's what I where I want to switch a

492
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Speaker 1: conversation to. This season has so many great characters, so

493
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: many great stories, so many important people that like are

494
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: just really incredible humans, and I don't want this to

495
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: fall into what we've seen for the last few seasons,

496
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden, the controversial characters take up

497
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: the first four weeks of the show. It's not fun,

498
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: but it's not fun for me to watch. Maybe it's

499
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: fun for the viewer, maybe that it is entertaining. Maybe

500
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Speaker 1: that's what you want to see. But I feel like this,

501
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: out of any season, has so many great storylines to

502
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: it that we don't need it, Like we don't need

503
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: the controversial characters right now. And I don't want to

504
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: be I don't want to sit at my TV and

505
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 1: feel judge the whole time because I'm like, why are

506
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: you getting mad? This is ridiculous, This is annoying, Like

507
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to have that, like reaction. I want

508
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: to sit there and enjoy what's going on. At least

509
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: usually when we get the four weeks of controversial characters,

510
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: they're entertaining to some degree, we kind of love to

511
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: hate watch them. I noticed that this last week. But like,

512
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: there's nothing I love about watching her. It's it's getting hard.

513
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: A Week two was at times confusing. It's definitely going

514
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: to be a storyline, uh, at least for a few weeks.

515
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: I would imagine, like, I don't know if Matt's caught

516
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: on yet. I think he's confused. But I think he's confused.

517
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: Let's let's just like skip up. Let's just concentrate on

518
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Victoria and that whole Victoria Maryland storyline for a second,

519
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: and then we'll go on to the good parts of

520
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: the episode. I think that that could be his only

521
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: downfall as far as not having experience in the franchise,

522
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: Like he's not seeing this situation clearly. I have no

523
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: idea why he seems to be taking Victoria's word more

524
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: than the very sane seeming Maryland. Well. I think at

525
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: least the first couple of weeks. You're right, I do

526
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: think his experience plays into it. He's not used to

527
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: the drama in the house. He doesn't know how these

528
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: things usually go right. If you're in the house, you

529
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: see people start to disagree and argue and and you're

530
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: usually like a little more tuned to that. He doesn't

531
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: have that, and so if he doesn't have that, then

532
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: you have this sit down. It's the very first time

533
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: that he's been really confronted with anything controversial yet, which

534
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: week two is really early to be kind of, you know,

535
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: confronted with anything controversial. And so now I bet his

536
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: mind I'm assuming here, but I bet his mind goes

537
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: to a place of intrigue, of curiosity of what's going

538
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: on and how do I do this well? Because, as

539
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: we've said it every season, the mark of a good

540
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: back to their Bachelor is not if they're likable or

541
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: not right, they're gonna be likable, it's how do they

542
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: handle controversial and difficult situations. So he's now because we

543
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: he and I talked about before the season, like I'm

544
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: sure in the back of his head and he's probably

545
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: not listening to me at this point. He's just doing

546
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: what he does best. But it's like I've been in

547
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: the back of his head. He's going how do I

548
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: handle this well. I don't want to mess up right away.

549
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: This feels like a big issue. How do I do

550
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: this and make sure that this doesn't ruin the show?

551
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: I guess my experience, my natural instinct, if I even

552
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: had not been part of the show before, would be

553
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: let me talk to some other people about how they

554
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: view these two characters. But that gets dangerous actually, and

555
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: we've seen leads do that in the past. And when

556
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: you bring in the mob, and you bring in the group,

557
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, there becomes like somebody that

558
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: is vilified, maybe for the wrong reasons. Maybe people don't

559
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: have to have something out to get her, And like,

560
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: you want to keep this as closed as you can

561
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: so it doesn't spread out amongst the whole group, that

562
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't become a controversy months the whole group, because

563
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: you want to keep your drama isolated. If you can

564
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: as a lead and handle it there, confront it there now,

565
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: if you later on need to move to the group,

566
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: you can. But I wouldn't recommend going out and being like, hey,

567
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: you know these two girls like and you don't want

568
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: to talk about other girls with other girls. I mean,

569
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: I get it, but also Matt, Just like, based on

570
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: just sitting down with the two of them, which one

571
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: do you think is being is more dramatic? Like, it's

572
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: just very obvious to me that the drama queen who's

573
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: maybe a little off putting, maybe a little bit too

574
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,479
Speaker 1: much in certain circumstances like just like kissing you and

575
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: grabbing you all the time and having a broad strap

576
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: show at a formal event. You're just like, which one

577
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: is maybe a little bit more off in this situation?

578
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he's starting to become a tune to it, right,

579
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: He's starting to ask arounded producers, Hey, what's going on here?

580
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: Give me something like give me some site, And they're

581
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: gonna start like they're not gonna tell him, but they're

582
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: gonna start like helping him. He's gonna start asking the

583
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: right questions, I think now, like you see a week two,

584
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna start asking the right questions now. But here's

585
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: always the thing to remember, we can't forget this is

586
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: you and I and every other viewer gets to watch

587
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: the show and see everything go down, Like we see

588
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: the issues in the house, we see the conversations in

589
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: the house, we see the arguments in the drama in

590
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: the house. Matt doesn't see that. He he hasn't experience yet.

591
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: He's getting small snippets of that, and as he starts

592
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: to become more tuned to it, more knowledgeable, we're gonna

593
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: see him I think, start to go, wait, this isn't okay,

594
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: Like this needs to stop. Or maybe he's into it.

595
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: We don't know yet. Maybe he's into victorious nuttiness. Maybe

596
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: we don't know yet, like what if this? I mean, hey,

597
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: we we we never know how this thing can play out.

598
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: I've been more shocked in my life, uh, watching this show.

599
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: But like, we don't know yet what Matt's into. We're

600
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: just gonna need to know him as well. I just

601
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: have to say, like, my heart goes out to to

602
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: Maryland for having to have to room with her, and

603
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: if she gets eliminated because of her, like, man, does

604
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: that girl deserve a spot in paradise? Like give it

605
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: to her now. I'm sure she's gonna get it. It's

606
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: just you know, it's similar to uh, what's his face?

607
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: I forget his name at this point, but the guy

608
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: uh from it was on Clear season night one when

609
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: he confronted Joseph and then he was sent home. Um,

610
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: you know that same guy has a very similar storyline.

611
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: He's going, Hey, something's wrong here. This isn't okay, this

612
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: guy isn't who he said he is. I want to

613
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: bring this to your tension on night one so that

614
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: like this can be stopped. And he's the one that

615
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: goes home. Joseph stays and we forgot about him and

616
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: he got the wrong in the deal. So maybe the

617
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: two of them can go up to paradise. Ashley, let's

618
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: skip now to the one on one day, the very

619
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: first one on one of the season. It's a big deal. Uh.

620
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to our Bachelor data analysis analysts here

621
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: in a little bit about how important the one on

622
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: one is. But Ashley, you know, Bree was one of

623
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: your favorites after last week. UM, so I'm sure you're

624
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: pumped to see her here go on the state. It

625
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: definitely put her on my top four. She's definitely staying

626
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: in my top four. Uh. They go on a TV rides.

627
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: It was very cute, very authentic feeling because he well

628
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: turned the car over and that was really scary and

629
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: I audibly gasped. But at least they had something to

630
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: kind of laugh about and break the tension and like,

631
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: no awkward moments after you experienced something like that together. Um,

632
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: maybe they joked about a little bit too much, but

633
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: then I was gonna say, you can tell. I was

634
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna say, that's like the first thing. And I mean,

635
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: you expect it. I think people are gonna like find

636
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: it endearing. But it's like the very first time that

637
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: you see, Oh, Matt hasn't done this before, Like he's

638
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: not he doesn't understand yet that he's gonna have to

639
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: have a jillion conversations he really. I mean, here's the secret.

640
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: You just gotta ask a lot of questions. Like you're

641
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: not gonna have something to say about everything because you

642
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: have you know, twenty conversations a day, So ask a

643
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: lot of like questions to your to your date. And

644
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: at this point, we we we saw I think for

645
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: the first time. I was watching it, Jessica was watching it.

646
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: We're like, Okay, they've brought this up a lot, like

647
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: this feels like the space filler we don't need. Yeah,

648
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: And I couldn't believe that they kept showing it. I

649
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, they keep showing it. This must really

650
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: be all that they're talking about, right, now. But they

651
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: finally get over that hump when they sit down to

652
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: dinner and they talk about their relationships with their dads

653
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: and how in in the family that they wish to

654
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: develop in their futures. They want very present dads. They

655
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: want to have a close family unit to call their own.

656
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: It was definitely something that they bonded over last week

657
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: and continue to do this week. Uh, I love I

658
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: like it. They're on the same page. She's really pretty,

659
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: very sweet. He's very sweet. I I did I feel it.

660
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: She gets the rose. I mean, you know, Bree and

661
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: Matt once they got over the whole like, hey, we

662
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: fell off and I'm sorry for you. Like talk, you

663
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: know that ended. We did get to see them both

664
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: open up. And the cool thing is, like, you know,

665
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: Brie really shares horse her story and it's one where

666
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: her mom was pregnant and Brie is a fantastic human,

667
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: Like how incredible is this story to really like think

668
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: about I thought about it a lot, to be honest,

669
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: It was like I had to press pause and just

670
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: let that soak in. The mom was like she was

671
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: thirteen and she had a baby, and she grew up.

672
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: It looks like she she turned out a beautiful human

673
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: and it's easy to think that her mom now is

674
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: thirty seven and her mom is starting another cycle of

675
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: her life again. You know, she's I think she's engaged

676
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: something crazy. Here's something that I thought about. Her mom

677
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: could have been the Bachelor ATTE, could still be the

678
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: Bachelor ATTE and she, like, I mean, think about it,

679
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: Claire was older than her mom is younger than Claire is,

680
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, and that's like super impressive. Like this whole

681
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 1: thing is something to be like, what an incredible mother

682
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: she has? What incredible like like story that is and

683
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: Breeze awesome, but like that puts things into perspective where

684
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: like her mom is like kind of at the age

685
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: where you could go on the show. I don't know

686
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: for mom's single or what. But she's engaged and having

687
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: a new baby. Oh well that's huge. Well that's massive.

688
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: Celebrate that she's not gonna come on the show. She's

689
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: doing her own thing now. Well, Ashley, as we see

690
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: this day kind of play out, we obviously, you know,

691
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: love bree and we think she's gonna be around a

692
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: long time. She's incredible, she gets the rows. Uh. We've

693
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: already spoken about the Victoria drama that just kind of

694
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: keeps popping up um throughout this day and throughout the

695
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: first part of this episode, and really throughout the whole episode.

696
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: But we then moved into Matt's very first group date

697
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: with Victoria being on it. Now, Ashley, I think you

698
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna say, but I'm I'm not a fan.

699
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the show. I like what they

700
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: I like a lot of the show. I'm never a

701
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: fan of the whole wedding stuff and I think they've

702
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: overplayed it, and I just don't love the idea of

703
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: these wedding picture things. I think the photographer is great.

704
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: I think he's fun, but like, we gotta stop it,

705
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: like it's every season now. I know it's so weird.

706
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: I was like, we saw this four weeks ago. Yeah. Crazy.

707
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: It's like, you guys, you're creative. You come up with

708
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff. I know that it's limiting

709
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: now that you're shooting in one spot, but the wedding

710
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: dress thing has got to go stop. Like it's a

711
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: special time to put a wedding dress on, don't you know.

712
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: Don't just make it like it's nothing. It's and it's

713
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: just a little awkward, right especially on the first group day,

714
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: like Matt standing there, um, and and one other thing

715
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: that I'm and I feel like a critic right now,

716
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: and I don't. I do mean to be. I guess,

717
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: um is it's never great to set the bachelor or

718
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: the lead up to have to kiss other contestants in

719
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: front of the other contestants. It's not it's just not right.

720
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: It's awkward. It's it's not good for the heart. Like

721
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, once you see it, you're never gonna get

722
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: like really it out of your mind kind of um.

723
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: And I know it's playful and it's fun and whatever,

724
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: but like the whole concept of that was like just

725
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: not fun for me to watch. It wasn't I didn't

726
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: get anything out of it for me, particularly it's the

727
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: first kiss. I'm like, why would you waste your first

728
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: kiss girls? Because he wasn't going in for any of

729
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: these kisses in front of people, like when you're basically

730
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: throwing yourself at him, like wait for a moment that builds.

731
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: It's so this wasn't my favorite day, but it kind

732
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: of turned into something fun. It felt though, like this

733
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: day and I love it. Um. It became chaos, and

734
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: I think like the show did a good job at

735
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: showing us it, but I'm sure like if you were

736
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: on that day, that whole like obstacle course like thing

737
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: that they were doing in the way A dresses, it

738
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: became just kind of a mess. Like I don't think

739
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: it made any sense, and so you just have a

740
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: bunch of people running around trying to get this heart.

741
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: Finally somebody wins and it like closed the deal. But

742
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: I think watching it was just probably confusing to be there. No,

743
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: there's no rules. And and Paul, he was asleep at

744
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: the couch. Paul, he is a stage manager who's been

745
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: playing a bigger role as seasons go on. Uh, he

746
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: was the ref here, very very sweet man. He also

747
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: makes you very nervous because you oftentimes as part of

748
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: the cast, only see him during rows ceremonies. But he's

749
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: so so sweet anyway, Um, yeah, I I just kind

750
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: of want to reiterate what you just said. I think

751
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: that these types of battle dates never do anything for me.

752
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: They don't tell you much about somebody's personality and nine

753
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 1: days out, um, but then of course whose team goes

754
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: on to get the nighttime portion of the dates? It's

755
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: Victoria's and Victoria was devastated that she didn't get the

756
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: group date rose, but for all of us, why ching,

757
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: it was obvious that was going to go to Lauren. Uh.

758
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Lauren and Matt had a great conversation. She said that

759
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: the reason that her parents have been together in such

760
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: a happy, long marriage is because the Church God has

761
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: always been first and foremost in their relationship. And that's

762
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: basically like, that is the kind of relationship that I want,

763
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: but I never talk about it with other women, So

764
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: I thought it was a really big deal. I thought

765
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: also thought they had pretty cute flirty banter when they

766
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: were talking about Wake Force versus North Carolina. Yeah, it was.

767
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: It was a cool moment because you know, you're weak two.

768
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: You don't know these women very well. Matt's probably super

769
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: still because they're beautiful, but you're still like unconvinced a

770
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: little bit that there's somebody there actually for you. So

771
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: he has somebody sit down across him and say the

772
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: things that he's always dreamed of hearing in a partner,

773
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: and he's taken back, like he's like almost speechless in

774
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: his response if there was one, because I think he's

775
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,959
Speaker 1: just like holy call, Like I've got an amazing group

776
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: of beautiful, incredible kind women. Uh, and you see that

777
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: kind of play with Lauren throughout this group day. She

778
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: does get the group day Rose not surprising, which leads

779
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: us into the next one on one. Sarah gets the

780
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: one on one. I'm a big fan of Sarah. I

781
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: think she has uh she's gonna go along ways. I

782
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: don't know if she's one from Matt, but I think, um,

783
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: she she has a big personality. I think she's like

784
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: really into Matt. I think she's a great choice for

785
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: an early one on one. Uh. But Victoria's you know

786
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: again we bring her up. She's upset that she doesn't

787
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: get this one on one. Um, she's upset that she's

788
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: not getting more time with him. Which, hey, it's week two,

789
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: Like we've all got to pause a bit. Uh. But

790
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: Sarah does go on the one on one and they

791
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: go on a biplane uh, which as I'm watching it, Ashley,

792
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: my palms are sweaty because so scared. I mean, what

793
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: an incredible way to capture, Like the video footage is amazing,

794
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: but it makes it so like I just get so nervous. Yeah,

795
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: and the foliage is beautiful, But no, I plan on

796
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: never getting in a plane that small forever. Not my

797
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: not my jam. I would have been very nervous up there.

798
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: I understand that that adrenaline boosting type of date really

799
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: bonds you quickly, but it's a hard note for me

800
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: not that of course, though if I was on the Bachelor,

801
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: I'd be like, fine, let's go up there. Um, did

802
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: you ever do anything that you felt very very uncomfortable

803
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: physically in danger of when you were the Bachelor? No,

804
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: I got pretty lucky. Um, there was never any like

805
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: massive heights, which I just don't love. We ate a

806
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: lot of weird food and that's great with me. I

807
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: kind of enjoyed that. But yeah, I got lucky. Yeah.

808
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: So Sarah and Matt sit down like a little campfire

809
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: environment after their plane ride. He could tell that she

810
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: wasn't really opening up about her family, and it was

811
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: quite obvious to anyone. I think that there was something

812
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: that she was missing out on. So she he encourages

813
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: her to do so again over dinner, and that's when

814
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: she talks about her dad living with a l S,

815
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: which is just the most honestly like fear inducing disease

816
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: to me, Like It's just it's just so awful, and

817
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: I my heart goes out to her and her family

818
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: and her dad, and she is so strong and she's

819
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: so amazing being a caregiver for her father. You can

820
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: just feel the strength of their relationship. But you know

821
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: what was like the most just a great bachelor moment

822
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: to me in all of this was was when he,

823
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, mad is like overwhelmed by the fact that

824
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 1: she's choosing to be there dating him, and then he said,

825
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: is there anything that I can do to prove that

826
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: I am like worthy of being a partner to you?

827
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: M hmm, what a cool question, right, I mean it,

828
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to like equal the playing field, you know,

829
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: when you're the bachelor and you have contestants with the

830
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: bachelor and you have contestants, because it kind of typically

831
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: feels like the contestants are trying to prove themselves to

832
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: the bachelor. Yeah, And one of the coolest things I

833
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: think any lead can do is kind of level the

834
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: playing field and saying no, this is about us, like

835
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: this is our experiences, is our journey, This is not

836
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 1: about me having any type of power here. That's about

837
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: us figuring out if there's love that can exist in

838
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: this environment between us. You know, obviously, you know we

839
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: sit here as the audience. We've we got to meet

840
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: Sarah's dad. Uh during you know, the very first episode,

841
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: we kind of saw her family, so we all knew

842
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: like what was going on. It couldn't be easy for

843
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: her to talk about. UM. But like this was a

844
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: great moment when Matt responds with this, because I think

845
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: for her right now, she probably does have her family

846
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: on her mind right, like there's a lot going on

847
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: at home, and and she obviously helps out a ton

848
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: at home, and for her for Matt to say like, hey,

849
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: I just want you to be comforted that like you're

850
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: gonna be here as long as I'm interested in you

851
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: and as long as you're interested in me. Uh, I'm

852
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: not gonna drag you along in this. But I also

853
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: along the way wants you to know that I I

854
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 1: feel I'm putting privileged to be like with you here

855
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: in this environment. Um, it's just really awesome and uh

856
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: And and this date was like I was a little

857
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: bit nervous for it when she wasn't saying anything because

858
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: I felt like Matt knew she was holding back and

859
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: and he's not really interested in somebody's gonna hold back,

860
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: like he wants their stories. So I was like, don't

861
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: let this go, Like, don't don't let like, don't not

862
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: open up, don't pull a Ben Smith and like have

863
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: to come back on the show and say, hey, there

864
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: was actually something that I meant to say, and she

865
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: says it, and I feel like, you know she because

866
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: of that in mass response, like she rose to one

867
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: of my favorites. Um, and we'll talk about here here

868
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: later on after the episode. But what an incredible one

869
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: on one day. We had some great one on one

870
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: date to this episode. But that brings us into you

871
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of the final part of this episode, which is

872
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: the cocktail party, a big storyline, Mayors. We get to

873
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: see Abigail again, who we've obviously missed this whole episode

874
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: pretty much. Uh, She's great, and I mean their connections awesome.

875
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: There's a comfort there. Uh you know obviously Matt's intour.

876
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: But we already talked about the Victoria Maryland drama that

877
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: becomes uh toxic as some level, just like Victoria saying

878
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: Maryland was toxic. Uh, Ashley, do you think this is

879
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna be a big deal? Like do you see Maryland

880
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: going home from this, Yeah, that's what I'm because if

881
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: you look at the scenes for the next episode, it

882
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: looks like the girls are really starting to be like

883
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: Victoria like needs to be gone. And I think that

884
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: that's the kind of reaction you get when somebody undeservingly

885
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: goes home so worried about that. Uh. Very interesting that

886
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: during the rose ceremony the person that gets faint started

887
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: blacking out is Sarah, who has a rose. Those are

888
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 1: incredibly intent moments. I know you guys watch at home

889
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: and it's probably seems like horror line, silly. You know,

890
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 1: you're probably like, this is a show, blah blah blah. No,

891
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: those are like your heart is pounding during those moments.

892
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: So I'm surprised we don't get more people who faint

893
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: more often. And let's not forget this is not a

894
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: secret anymore with the show. We're not giving anything away

895
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: that hasn't been given away before. These rose ceremonies are

896
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: not ten minutes like we watch on TV. They're hours long.

897
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: Like there's cameras that drop, there's people that take breaks,

898
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: there's new cameraman that come in, they pick up the

899
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: whole time. The cast is standing there still, and I

900
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: don't know about anybody else. I once passed out and

901
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: my uncle's wedding, like I think it was. I mean,

902
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: it's had to be over twenty years ago because I

903
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: was standing up on stage for too long with my

904
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: knees locked, and all of a sudden, down goes Ben.

905
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 1: It can happen like, it's not shocking to me because

906
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: you're standing up there for so long. That's it. That's

907
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: a goofy little guy. But yeah, your heart is pounding,

908
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: your nerves are raging for that long. But it was

909
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: interesting that it was Sarah, which makes me like a

910
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: little concern. She even says in the voiceover that, you

911
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: know Matt's contemplation, like it could be you know this.

912
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: Who knows where the SoundBite came from, but she says

913
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: something about Matt possibly keeping Victoria makes her worried about

914
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: whether she even she'd be staking around. I mean, yeah,

915
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: we don't know where that plays out, right, It's gonna

916
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: be interesting. But a couple of few final notes notes

917
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: here before we we in this segment, is uh, really

918
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: cool of m J to stand up for Maryland. I

919
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: thought it was a really cool thing for her to

920
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: do is Victorias sits down and start saying, you know,

921
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: Maryland's toxic and MJ very patiently, very calmly, just because

922
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: I've never seen her be like that. I can't support

923
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: that because my opinion is that she's never been that way,

924
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: and I think that's how you handle those well. And

925
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: we see it with m J um Ashley. Uh if

926
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: we rated this episode and then give us your top

927
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: three contestants to this point, oh am, I right for

928
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: the episode? Is um. I paused just because I was

929
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: thoroughly entertained, but a lot of it was because I

930
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: was just in awe of Victoria's behavior. I'm gonna go

931
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: with another eight, Like we had some mind blowing ten

932
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: out of ten episodes during Tastias season, So I'm going

933
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: to use that as like the height the top three

934
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: contestants right now. Yeah, so definitely Brie. I'm still gonna

935
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: put Rachel in there. It's the same as the same

936
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: as last week. So it's Rachel, Vinery and Abigail And

937
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: I would say, like I said last week, Sarah's definitely

938
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: up there, but I would put her in my top four.

939
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a seven because I just don't think

940
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: we got enough out of it. I think it's week

941
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: two again. This is always a long episode. We're gonna

942
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: get better here. I thought there were some like kind

943
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 1: of awkward moments. I think MAT's getting his the swing

944
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: of things. I think he's gonna be great. Um, there

945
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: was some drama that I just don't love watching. It

946
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: just makes me feel uncomfortable and it kind of like

947
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: hurts others in the process. Someone even to seven wasn't

948
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: my favorite episode, but my top three. It's gonna be

949
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: Abigail Bree uh. And I'm gonna put Sarah up there

950
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: as well. Now, um over Rachel at this point, I

951
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: think Abigail Brie, Sarah Uh. Hey Ashley Uh. Let's take

952
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: a break and we'll come back with almost famous podcast. Well,

953
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: one of our favorite parts of the podcast is breaking

954
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: down bachelor headlines. We've got a few to breakdown for

955
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: you today. Actually, our resident expert on all things pop

956
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: culture and bachelor headlines, We're gonna start with you. On

957
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: the very first one, Bachelor's Peter Weber moves to New

958
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: York City after split from Kelly. He's ready to go,

959
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: he says, it's according to US Magazine. Actually this is confusing. Okay, well,

960
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: to make this a bigger I don't get it, Kelly

961
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: is actually also moving to New York too. They're both

962
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: moving to New York and they're just not gonna live together.

963
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: She says that she's not moving until Mark. She's she'll

964
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: be in Florida until then. But that is freaking weird. Okay,

965
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 1: so obviously it has nothing to do with the move.

966
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: They broke up for way other way, bigger reasons on

967
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: the move. I don't know. I think that was that

968
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: was probably obvious, but I just really didn't expect them

969
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: both to end up in the same city. It's just

970
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: all weird. We don't know. We know so little about

971
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: this relationship, right, Like, it felt like it was good

972
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: to the end. It felt like it was good till

973
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't. That's all we see publicly. But hey, next

974
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: headline is this is super interesting. Actually, I need you

975
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: to explain this because I tried to do it on

976
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: my own but I just couldn't figure it out. Twitter

977
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: thread about Bachelor contestant Kristen Hopkins helping a former classmate

978
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: goes viral. This according to people, Okay, this is crazy

979
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: and very cool. Kristen Hopkins. She's one of the attorneys

980
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: on Matt season. She hasn't had a lot of screen

981
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: time yet, but hopefully she gets because she's a hero.

982
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: She went to school with this girl and on their

983
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: way back from an alumni event, the girls on the

984
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: train with her and like they weren't together, Like it

985
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: wasn't like they were going over each other's houses, were

986
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: like gonna go grab dinner or anything. But she was

987
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: watching out for this girl because there was this guy

988
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: who was being super creepy, um talking about like babysitting

989
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: for his daughter. Uh, just really hitting on the girl,

990
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: but like not in acute way. Um. He apparently was

991
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: married and he was kind of trying to cheat on

992
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: his wife with this with this girl. But she said

993
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: that she was being too dull, just not picking up

994
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: on his creepy vibes. But Kristen did and she she

995
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: went up to her and she said, girl, this man

996
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: is creepy. He's hitting on you. And she just said

997
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: basically that she she saved her because she could have

998
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: been getting off the train and getting into trouble with

999
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: this guy, but she prevented it. So cool, such a

1000
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: cool story to see and uh, really awesome that the

1001
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: girl remembered Kristen and then highlighted this story went it

1002
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: went viral, so a lot of people heard it this

1003
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: last week. Next story is one obviously, we have a

1004
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: couple of headlines here about Heather Martin come back on

1005
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: the show. Uh, we'll wait and talk about those ones.

1006
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: She does well. The final headline today is one about

1007
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: the most recent Bachelor couple, Tasia and Zach. Actually they

1008
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: were spotted out and about in New York City. What

1009
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: was going on? Well, she ran a charity five k

1010
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: with him this week, and gosh, I hope that she's

1011
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: a runner, because that would not be like an easy

1012
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: thing getting a couple and then all of a sudden,

1013
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm expected to run things. It doesn't really feel like

1014
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: your thing. Actually, it doesn't really feel like you and

1015
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: you and Jared Mett and you're like, let's go for

1016
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: a run. Like you work out, you love to work out,

1017
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: you stay in shape, but like running running is not

1018
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: your like favorite right, Yeah it's not. That's not my

1019
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: ideal workout. But I think that Tasia fits the role,

1020
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: and it was very sweet to see them doing something

1021
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: for charity together. It's awesome. Well, hey, actual let's take

1022
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: a break here. When we come back, more of the

1023
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: almost in this podcast. Alright, guys, we got Chris and

1024
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 1: Luke on the phone. You guys just did a new

1025
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: music video. I think I think the first question about

1026
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: getting a music video done right now is how did

1027
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: you do it? So luckily we shot that one before

1028
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 1: everything shut down for a while. I think we shot

1029
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: that one probably less well, not last the last um November,

1030
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: I guess in two thousand nineteen, So we didn't. It

1031
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: was easy to do it then, no social distancing or anything. Well,

1032
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: this obviously is a great song. We have you on, Chris,

1033
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: Bandy is on in. Luke is in his music video. Chris,

1034
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: we've seen it done before. Uh where a bachelor bachelor

1035
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: at contestant is in a music video? A country seems

1036
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 1: to be our realm? Why did you choose Luke? We

1037
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: had a few running scenes and uh, Luke looked much

1038
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: better running in Nashville than I did. Uh, so he

1039
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,479
Speaker 1: was our first call. Is there any Is there any

1040
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: romance in this video? You know it's it's kind of

1041
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: a funny story. Um, so there is no romance. I

1042
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: think the only time that they were in a shot

1043
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: together was a big fight outside of a bar UM.

1044
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: And then the whole the whole premise of the song

1045
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: is saying, you know you, you've learned from your mistakes,

1046
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: You've grown up a little bit, You've taken all of

1047
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: your wrongdoings and become a better person from them. UM.

1048
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: And then we kind of left it as a as

1049
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: a cliffhanger at the end, so kind of like the

1050
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: movie The Breakup, you don't know whether or not they

1051
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: get back together or whether they don't, so it's kind

1052
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: of up to the viewers perception. We got Chris Bandy

1053
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: on again. Luke Pell was in his music video Man

1054
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: enough now, Luke, you're a country singer yourself. Uh is

1055
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 1: it common in the country world to be in somebody

1056
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: else's video? How did you decide? Was even a tough

1057
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 1: decision at all? I wasn't a tough decision at all.

1058
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: I love I love Chris and the whole team UM

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00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: that works with him, and so when they asked me,

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00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, yeah, dude, I'm down. I'm excited

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00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: to do it. I've known the song UM for a

1062
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: couple of years prior to since I had met Chris

1063
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: and we became friends and his song before his record

1064
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: deal came out and and happened and was signed and everything.

1065
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: He had already put that song out independently and it

1066
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: had just killed it on Spotify, was viral, and so

1067
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: I was a big fan of the song and of

1068
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: Chris and and knew about it well before they asked me.

1069
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: And then when you got a record deal, that's when

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00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: they went ahead and decided to do a big budget

1071
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: video and all those things, and so I was just, uh,

1072
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: you know, glad and honored to be a part of it.

1073
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: Well bad bags. The question, Chris, are you a Bachelor fan?

1074
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: Is that? How you thought? Uh, Luke pal perfect to

1075
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: be a manly man in this role. So I've I've

1076
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: watched a few seasons of The Bachelor. Um, I would

1077
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: say not to my accord. My girlfriend is a fan

1078
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: and I started following along because of her. Um. But

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00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: Luke and I actually met in the country music world,

1080
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: and we've played quite a few shows together and just

1081
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: hung out um in in Nashville. So we've been friends

1082
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: for a long time. And having him in the video

1083
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: was was an awesome experience, kind of a full circle thing,

1084
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, it was. It was awesome to have

1085
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: him and he killed it, as you can see in

1086
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: the video. Well something big. And I mean my fiance's

1087
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: from Franklin and so I've gotten be around Nashal a

1088
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 1: little bit. Got to meet a couple of country singers.

1089
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: I know, this is a huge deal. Now. I always

1090
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching these on YouTube and stuff. But you made

1091
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: your Grand Old Oprey debut February. That's a massive deal

1092
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: country music, isn't it. Thank you so much. Yeah, it

1093
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: was just I mean, moving to Nashville, you kind of

1094
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: know that the Grand ol Opry is the pinnacle of

1095
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: venues to play, and it is. It was on top

1096
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: of my bucket list. And I remember when we got

1097
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: the call. My manager said, hey, you're playing an opery

1098
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, in three weeks, And my heart just kind

1099
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: of sunk into my stomach because I was already so nervous.

1100
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: But the people that have played that stage and have

1101
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: have gone on to be members of the Grand ol Oprary,

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00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it is so ingrained in Nashville history

1103
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: that getting to do that was, I mean something that

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00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: I will never ever forget. I hope we get to

1105
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: play it many many more times, but that first time

1106
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: was just incredible. Well, before we let you guys go,

1107
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: we wanted to hear a little uh if you will,

1108
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,600
Speaker 1: a little birth of your new single would have loved Her,

1109
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: which if you do do a music video for it,

1110
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: we would suggest again absolutely it's a it's a three

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00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: part series or a yeah, awesome, well you'll be the

1112
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: love interest. I I wrote this. So I wrote this song, um,

1113
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: thinking about my grandpa, who passed away about six months

1114
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: before I met my girlfriend, and I just had this

1115
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: idea that, you know, if he were still around and

1116
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: gotten the chance to meet her, he would have loved her.

1117
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: And I brought this idea in with a good friend

1118
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: of mine who I write with all the times, Zach Kale,

1119
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: and we were kind of throwing ideas out and stuff,

1120
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: and he told me that his dad actually passed away

1121
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 1: before he met his wife, and we kind of, you know,

1122
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 1: knew that we were going to write this song that day.

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00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, this is my brand new single to country

1124
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: radio and it's called would have loved Her. She's from

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00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: song Town. Just slack you lot of them well, and

1126
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: don't let it fool you, she says. She thanks me

1127
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: a better man like you did cherish Meerman loved her.

1128
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: Love it. Look I just added to my Apple music Well,

1129
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: thank you so much, good ahead, so good, so awesome.

1130
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: Well hey again, that's Chris Bandy everybody. Luke pel Is

1131
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 1: in his music video man Enough Now debut self Tier DP,

1132
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: released May nine, and you had a hand in writing

1133
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: four of the seven tracks. Cris Bandy, everybody, Luke, thanks

1134
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: for coming on. We appreciate you all. Thanks for having me,

1135
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: y'all fine, love you guys, Thank you so much. Love

1136
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: the way, the best, and add the y'all. When we're

1137
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 1: talking country, I gotta put it in Ashley. Alright, guys

1138
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: up next. Very interesting technology director and data analyst. Her

1139
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: name is Susannah and in December two thousand eighteen, she

1140
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: began analyzing the impact of The Bachelor on social media

1141
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: and analyzing data surrounding the franchise. You can find her

1142
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: data analysis on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok at Bachelor data. Uh So,

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01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast, guys. Hey Susannah, Hey, thanks for

1144
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 1: having me. So what made you start analyzing the Bachelor data?

1145
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: So it's a funny story. I had just become a

1146
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: technology director and I didn't know how to use spreadsheets,

1147
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: so nothing at the time sounded worse to me than

1148
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: taking an Excel class. So I decided to start following

1149
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: Instagram followers of people who were on the show to

1150
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: try to figure out if there was any correlation between

1151
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: what happened on the show that could lead to more

1152
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: Instagram followers. It's such an interesting pursuit. And uh, I honestly,

1153
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: I came across your page kind of randomly. I think

1154
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: during Tacious season was really the first time it came

1155
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: to light. And I mean, I've kind of been watching

1156
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: and I think you might tell me different, but I

1157
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 1: feel like it has grown sensatious season, Like, I think

1158
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: it really has caught fire. But the thing that I'm

1159
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 1: always so impressed with, there's so much data that goes

1160
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: into the show, right, like what color dresses people wear,

1161
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: what color clothes people wear, how much screen time there are?

1162
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: Like how does what does it look like when you're

1163
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: watching the show and you're plugging in these numbers, Like

1164
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: how do you do it all? And how do you

1165
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: conceptualize it into something that makes sense? Yeah, So the

1166
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: night of the episode, I actually try to sit down

1167
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 1: and enjoy it. I sit down, I just watched and

1168
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 1: I just captured general screen time. So some segments during

1169
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: the show like is it a one on one day,

1170
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: is it a group date? Um. Then after the episode

1171
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: is done airing, I'll go back and rewatch it and

1172
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,919
Speaker 1: I'll analyze for things like screen time, so I'll break

1173
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: down how long people are on the screen and who's featured,

1174
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: and then and I'll also try to find some novelty

1175
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: things to collect data on. So this last week I

1176
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: analyze dress colors, where they sparkly, were they not um

1177
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: and different things like that to try to see if

1178
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: there's any correlation between what we see on the show

1179
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: to tell us what might happen in the future. So

1180
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: you've been doing this since two thousand eight teens, you've

1181
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: had a couple of seasons. Are there any trends or

1182
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 1: themes that just seem to stay constant? Yeah. So the

1183
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: big thing that whenever it comes to the show and

1184
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: data is screen time is golden. So if you were

1185
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: on the screen, you have a really big chance of

1186
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 1: increasing your Instagram followers. UM. And I always find that

1187
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: interesting because you can't say that that generally always works,

1188
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 1: because when you look at different people in different types

1189
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: of screen time, there's a ton of variables that take

1190
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: place there, so not all screen time is equal. So

1191
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: if we look at last season with Tasia, the Bennett

1192
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: and Noah drama, they got tons of followers out of that,

1193
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: so you can see that people are interested in following

1194
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: these people on Instagram after the show. But then if

1195
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: you look at some other people like Joseph, it doesn't

1196
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: really translate as well to followers. So it's interesting to

1197
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: look at what the screen time looks like and then

1198
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: how people look at it. But then looking at UM

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01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: some other data, I think my favorite that I found

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01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: is that the first one on one date, which is

1201
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: on tonight's episode, is one of the biggest indicators for

1202
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: the Bachelor, at least on who's going to become the

1203
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: next bachelorette. Who in the past has had the first

1204
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: date and then become Bachelor bachelorette. Yeah, so the last

1205
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: twelve seasons of The Bachelor, six of them became the

1206
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: bachelorette eventually. So if we look at UM, Hannah Brown

1207
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: had the first one on one date, Becca Kouffrin, uh,

1208
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: we had Claire Crawley, we had Ashley a Bear, we

1209
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,479
Speaker 1: had Ali Fattowski, we had Jillian Harris. They all became

1210
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: bachelorette and they all also had the first one on

1211
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: one date. Very so interesting. That's so interesting. Now, what

1212
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: what about when it comes to villains, Because I don't

1213
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: want to call Bennett a villain, but he pretty but

1214
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: he was a controversial right, um, but he was no

1215
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: in no way the kind of villain that Joseph was.

1216
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: So when it comes to villains, is there a kind

1217
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: of villain who gets more followers than others? Yeah? I

1218
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: mean it's one of those things. It's it's how likable

1219
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: they come across. Right, So like Demmy is a great

1220
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: example that she got played up as having drama in

1221
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: the house, but people love her. They follow her on Instagram,

1222
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: she went on Paradised. You know, she had a really

1223
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, likable personality at seems as because people are

1224
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: following her. So that's one of those things that not

1225
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: all villains are created equal. Um. But the key thing

1226
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: there is that they're getting screen time and they're not

1227
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: disappearing in big group dates. They're getting screen time even

1228
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: if they're not on a one on one. Well. You know,

1229
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about data and why I find you're

1230
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: so interesting is you know you are just a few

1231
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: years in so your data is still at a micro

1232
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: level now. Over time, when you continue to do this,

1233
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: and I hope you do, it will become big data

1234
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: at some level. Like you're gonna have a lot of information,

1235
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of patterns that you can see.

1236
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: Do you feel and no spoilers here? But are you

1237
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 1: starting to get a sense of what's going to happen

1238
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: in the show based on the data that you've already

1239
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: received the last two years? Can you almost predict spoilers

1240
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: now for the show before the episodes even air? Not really?

1241
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: So something that's important when it comes to this data

1242
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: is that you have to remember that this is all

1243
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 1: focused on a show about somebody who's trying to fall

1244
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: in love with somebody, So you can't have data predict

1245
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: you know, who is this person going to fall in

1246
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: love with? But there are certain things that can kind

1247
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: of give you early indicators on who's gonna last long um,

1248
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: And that's around screen time, right, They're not going to

1249
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time at least what I've seen

1250
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: so far and watching this show, gosh, since Jake Mbelka's season,

1251
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 1: is that they're not going to spend a ton of

1252
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: time building up somebody's character, Um for them to only

1253
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: go home week three. Um, so keep an eye out

1254
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: on who's getting a lot of screen time. But you

1255
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: can really see around episode four and five at that

1256
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: point who has a lot of followers. Who's getting a

1257
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: lot of screen time will generally indicate who's going to

1258
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: make it to the final six or so. So screen

1259
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: time anything weird, like anything totally unexpected, like the color

1260
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: that they wear, the tone of their voice. Um, you know,

1261
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: weird entrances. You know one thing that is a really

1262
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 1: good indicator that I just started tracking during clarentatious season. Um,

1263
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: that's been my first you know shot at trying to

1264
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: take featured screen time data. And I'm not talking like

1265
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: Ivan has a one on one date, so all that

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Speaker 1: time goes to him. I'm talking, Okay, it breaks from

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Speaker 1: Ivan goes to Tasia, So let's stop the time for Ivan. Um.

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Speaker 1: When I take that, I'm also documenting if that's a positive,

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Speaker 1: a neutral, or negative screen time, So it's kind of

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Speaker 1: how the person is being portrayed, if it's a positive

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01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: or if it's a neutral. And neutrals, like you know,

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Speaker 1: they're in an im and they're just kind of narrating

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Speaker 1: what's happening on the show. A negative would be, you

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01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,920
Speaker 1: know the interaction between Bennett and Noah. Um, those with

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01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: more positive screen time tend to make it further in

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01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: the season very interesting. So let's make it about Matt

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Speaker 1: James in here for a second. Right. Uh, we we've

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Speaker 1: seen the first two episodes at this point. But on

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Speaker 1: the first episode, Uh, we can see the limit entrances

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Speaker 1: and there is some really like I mean, this year,

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Speaker 1: out of any I think they're super entertaining. Um, they're

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Speaker 1: very taught talked about. There's the ones the tooth that

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01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: stand out to me are like goat shoes and the vibrator.

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Speaker 1: Those two I just thought were super intriguing. Could you

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01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: tell from your data if one of them was better

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01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: than the other based on following or response sort of?

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Speaker 1: So you know Katie at the one with the vibrator,

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Speaker 1: she didn't gain a ton of followers. Um, this last episode,

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Speaker 1: it was really Abigail was the star of the episode.

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01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: And that's normally true with every season. Whoever gets that

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01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: that first impression roads they get tons of followers that

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Speaker 1: week and I'm talking surpassing a hundred thousand followers. But

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Speaker 1: with the gimmick versus traditional limo insurances. The thing is

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Speaker 1: is that if you do a gimmick, you're gonna be

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01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: on TV longer. And normally that segment there's a structure

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Speaker 1: to it where you know, some some of the women

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01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: will come in, they'll have more of a traditional insurance

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Speaker 1: like Hi, it's nice to meet you. I'm so nervous,

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to you inside. And then

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Speaker 1: you have the gimmicks. You know, you have the vibrators.

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Speaker 1: We also have the people who are showing up with

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Speaker 1: a car or something like that, and they just generally

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: get more screen time. UM. So with that you can

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01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: build some more early on favorites because they're more memorable. Um.

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Speaker 1: But what's really interesting is if you look at the

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Speaker 1: trend of gimmicks. Actually your season, Ben had the highest

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Speaker 1: number of gimmicks overall looking at the past six seasons,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of the people who actually make it

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01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: towards the end all had gimmicks. So it's something that

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Speaker 1: helps them be memorable, but um, it also helps with

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: their story to to kind of get them started. You

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Speaker 1: do some data on race representation, and we've seen over

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Speaker 1: the past couple of seasons that there's been a more

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Speaker 1: diverse cast, more diverse leads. Is there anything interesting as

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Speaker 1: far as that growth that's been demonstrated to the numbers? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I think this was one of my favorite things

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Speaker 1: that came out of my data analysis. The first season

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Speaker 1: I did was Colton and Tasha was actually on it,

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01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: and that season I was really just trying to find

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Speaker 1: tiny trends in the little amounts of data that I

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Speaker 1: had at the time, and Tasia was the first UM

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Speaker 1: trend that stood out to me because screen time did

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: translate to followers for her, and the only variable that

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01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 1: I could find there and her there was somebody else

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Speaker 1: in her season two was that they were non white

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Speaker 1: contestants UM. And something that's been really great that I've

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Speaker 1: seen since then that i've been watching it with this,

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Speaker 1: you know, more of a data centered attention is that,

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Speaker 1: you know, casting is one thing, but also seeing them

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Speaker 1: in the storylines and having more screen time for them. UM.

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Speaker 1: It's been improving, especially Tastias season UM. If you look

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Speaker 1: at the breakdown in this way, I try to do

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Speaker 1: most weeks, especially once we can get past the first

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Speaker 1: few weeks where I can actually recognize people. UM is

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Speaker 1: trying to see equitably. What's the breakdown of people who

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Speaker 1: are white versus non white and then seeing you know,

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Speaker 1: are they shown equitably on the show? Um? Because that's

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01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: also important in being able to see people on our

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01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: screens that have different backgrounds, like we saw ontatious season.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, this is a great follow You

1341
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: gotta follow it, Bachelor Data. It's just interesting. I mean,

1342
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: even if you're not a massive fan of the show,

1343
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: this stuff has been intriguing to me every time you

1344
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: post about it, every time you share it. I'm into it.

1345
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: I watch it. Uh it is. I think it's gonna

1346
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, I really believe this. As much

1347
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: as this is a fun project, probably for you, I

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01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 1: think it's gonna revolutionize a lot of like how people

1349
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: watch the show. I think it's gonna be gonna like

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01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: bring a different kind of interest and intrigue into each episode. Uh.

1351
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: We actually, I both specifically on our I heart text

1352
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: thread said we gotta get you on the podcast, um,

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01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: and I got we gotta get you on again, Like,

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01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: I think this is such a fascinating thing you're doing

1355
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: again it's Bachelor Data. Now you're a last guest of

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01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:49,799
Speaker 1: this episode. Uh. And so here at almost in his podcast,

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01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: we have something that is an honor to us, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's an honor to anybody else

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 1: that ever does it or listens, but we're gonna ask

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: you to close out this episode with us, So if

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Speaker 1: you can stick around for one second. Uh, this has

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Speaker 1: been another episode of Almost Famous Podcast. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: next week breaking down Matt james third episode of his

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Speaker 1: Bachelor season. It's fantastic, such a fan of this season,

1365
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: such a fan of Matt James. With that, I've been been,

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Speaker 1: I've been Ashley, and I've been Susannah. Hey, we'll be

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01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 1: back next week. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost

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