1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: What Up Everybody? 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 3: It's Like Eah? 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Part two of the Quest Love Supreme 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 4: interview with Kathy Hughes and part one, Miss Hughes spoke 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 4: about growing up in Omaha, Nebraska, her moving to radio, 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 4: and creating the Quiet Storm, which may be responsible for 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 4: a large part of the population today. If you still 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 4: need to listen or watch, please do Here's part two, 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 4: which is a special episode for me because I get 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: to tell Miss Hughes what she means in my life 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 4: and career as she tells more stories from her incredible journey. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 4: Join us as we celebrate this Women's History Month and 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: honor great women year round on QLs. 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 5: I know that you have your shows that are are syndicated, 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 5: I e. Steve Steve, We'll do something from LA but 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 5: it goes to like whatever, one hundred markets. 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: Whatever, Ricky's in Alabama. 19 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 6: Okay. 20 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 5: So what I want to know is how are you able? 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 5: Are you the micromanaged type in terms of like, Okay, now, 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 5: I'm certain that there's the technology that exists where you 23 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 5: can instantly listen to your Houston station and quickly switch 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 5: to your Chicago station. If you want to, how were 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 5: you able to do that back in the day before 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 5: this technology, before the internet just colonized everything and made 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 5: it accessible. 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 6: How are you able to check your twelve. 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 5: Stations back in nineteen eighty nine nineteen ninety by going 30 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 5: to the. 31 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: But also remember I started on the East coast, So 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: first it was DC, then it was Baltimore, Okay, then 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: it was Philadelphia. We expanded in a pattern. Okay, it 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: wasn't then too. We bought the Clear Channel stations, the 35 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: iHeart stations that we actually went to the west coast 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: that we actually picked up stations, stations in like Saint Louis. 37 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: So we're back now basically just concentrated on the East 38 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: coast because that it's easier for us to get to 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: our stations into our people. So back then you just 40 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: had to travel and even though the technology wasn't your computer, 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: and then there were phone numbers that you could dial 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: in and listen to. 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 7: It's just about to say she was hotline and out 44 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 7: of nowhere too exactly. 45 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 5: Oh, so you would be like, all right, let me 46 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 5: see what why he's doing right now, and you would 47 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 5: call a hotline to hear exactly what's happening in Philly totally. 48 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 5: And so was she the type to like give you 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 5: notes like you didn't reach. 50 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 3: The well, amir. You remember, we had a warm line 51 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 3: and a hot line, right. The warm line was the number. 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 7: That all the labels, the artists and people had. The 53 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 7: hot line was a number that only management had. 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 6: So when you saw that ring, you knew down. 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 7: It's not the break clod break cloth close out, the 56 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 7: break clod down, the break clod out, the break really 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 7: the warm line. 58 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: I never heard that line, no doubt. All. 59 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: We have a warm line and we have a hotline. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 60 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 2: that's absolutely And so we did it by telephone back 61 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: then you could actually listen on the stations. Yeah, so 62 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: we we heard them. Okay, we heard them, but uh, 63 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 2: the reality is back to your original question about them 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: growing big and becoming the way radio has consolidated. They 65 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: ain't a whole bunch of opportunities, even for the big names. Okay, 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: so there's not much. There's not a whole bunch of 67 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: opportunity to lose them to another Now they we may 68 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: lose them to another industry, another discipline, another career, but 69 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: there's not much danger in you know, I mean Donnie 70 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: Simpson was retired when we convinced him to come back. Okay, 71 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: if he leaves me, he's going back to retirement. He's 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: not going to work. 73 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: At the estates want to play with the grand babies. 74 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: The same way. I mean, DL Hughley and Ricky Smiley 75 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: both have it perfect because with technology, they still do 76 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: their stand up Okay, they still pack houses and so 77 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 2: you know where are they going to go because certain 78 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: other corporations do have prohibition okay and limitations on what 79 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: you can do. I want my people to be as 80 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: successful as possible because with their success, like I said, 81 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: a rising tide lifts all boats. That means they can 82 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: employ people. 83 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: I need you to tell these fine fellas. 84 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 7: The story of how you did become a personality and 85 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 7: decided to do a morning show was a fellow named 86 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 7: Dick Gregory in DC. 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 6: Oh. 88 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: So, when I had the opportunity to buy my first 89 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: radio station, we did what it's called a format search, 90 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: which tells you where there's a whole hole in the market. 91 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: And the hole in the market was information for African Americans, 92 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, that's perfect. But no one 93 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: told me was that news talk is the most expensive 94 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: of all radio formats, really yeah, and air personality can 95 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: run their board, can answer their own phone, they can 96 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: do news talk is the most expensive because you have 97 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: to have you have to have an ensemble. You have 98 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: to have a team to do a show in news talk. Okay. 99 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 2: It's not possible for one air personality okay, or two 100 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: people to do it. And so I was not able 101 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: to service my debt. Again, I knew how to run radio, 102 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: I knew how to create radio. I did not know 103 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: the business of radio. And here it is nineteen eighty one. 104 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: The prime went into the mid twenties. I was paying 105 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: two and a half points over prime. My first quarter 106 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: of being in business, my interest rate was twenty seven 107 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: point five percent. Okay, it was impossible for me to 108 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: service my debt and support a news talk format. So 109 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: after about a year of me being my father was 110 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 2: a cpaight and my father taught me that one of 111 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: the things that causes a lot of people to fail 112 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: in business is that they destroy their credibility with people 113 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: that they owe money to. And he taught me never 114 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: to hide from a phone call from someone that I 115 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: owe money to, and never not pay them something. And 116 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: so each month during this time when the interest rates 117 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: are in the mid to upper twenties, and I can't 118 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: serve it's my debt and run my station. If I 119 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 2: owed you one thousand dollars, you might get a check 120 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: for three hundred, but you got something every month from me. Okay. 121 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: So I maintained my credibility with my lenders to get 122 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: me through this period. But at a certain point, my 123 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: lenders came to me and they said to me, you 124 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: can't afford a news talk format. You don't have the resources, 125 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: you don't have the experience to do this. You have 126 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: to go back to music. Well, I had already done 127 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: this research, and so I knew the number one I 128 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: was an AM station. How was I going to compete 129 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: against the monster I had created? A whu r? Okay? 130 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: I had created I was an expert on FM. I 131 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: had cut my teeth on FM in the DC market. 132 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: So they want me to play music up against I 133 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: have no separation of sound, okay, because to this day 134 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: there's very little, if any AM stereo anywhere in radio. Okay, 135 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: all right, there's no separation. I'm like, how am I 136 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 2: gonna do this? Onna be mono and they stereo? No, 137 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: this is gonna work. And so they said to me, 138 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: if you want to keep one shift, it has to 139 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: be morning Drive. And the only way you to keep 140 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: it is for you to do the show yourself, because 141 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: you're the only person you can afford. And it was 142 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: just like a light bulb going off. It was like, 143 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: that's a great idea, okay, and so I condensed my 144 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: then husband, Dewey Hughes, that we would go on the air. 145 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: And Dewey lasted about three months because by now he's 146 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: got fourteen Emmy's, he's in television, he's working for NBC. Okay, 147 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: he's not interested in doing radio, and so he says 148 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: he's gonna move to California and suggest that I come 149 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: with him, okay, And I said, no, I can't leave 150 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: my radio station. People are dependent on me. Said I'm 151 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: going to do the show by myself, and he said 152 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: I wouldn't advise that, and then out of nowhere, like 153 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: an angel, Dick Gregory descended on me. And one of 154 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: the jokes on the air was that he was my 155 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: permanent kiss, because Dick, some days when I was too tired, 156 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: or was sick or couldn't do the show, or I 157 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: had to do a promotion or speak somewhere. Dick would 158 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: do the show in my absence, but we used to 159 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: always joke on the Arabi. It's called the Kathy Hughes 160 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: Morning Show with permanent guests Dick Gregory, but for many 161 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: years Dick Gregory was there every morning. Dick Gregory would 162 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: not accept a penny of compensation and said to me 163 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 2: that in his life and his career, that two people 164 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: had resurrected him from where he was and elevated him 165 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 2: to where God intended for him to be. One was 166 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: Hugh Hefner, who put him in the playboy circuit and 167 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: really started him as a big personality. And me when 168 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: I allowed him to do my morning show with me, 169 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: because number one, if people start booking him again, his 170 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: popularity started our eyes once again. He was being invited 171 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 2: to college campuses to speak. You know, he was never 172 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: on Oprah Show because Oprah thought he was too radical. 173 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: People considered him a conspiracy theorist. Okay, and yet everything 174 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: we ever talked about turned out, maybe years later to 175 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: be the truth. Okay, it might have been a conspiracy 176 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: because but it was still a real conspiracy. Okay, it 177 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: was actually taking place, and I cannot tell you how blessed. 178 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: He said that I made a difference in his career. 179 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: He made a difference in my life and my career 180 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: because the topics that we covered, the information that we 181 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: disseminated during Morning Drive. I never will forget the morning 182 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 2: that Lee Atwater called in and he said, so, miss 183 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 2: use and mister Gregory, this is Lee at Water. I 184 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: am the President's blah blah blah. And we said, we 185 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: know who you are. We at Martin, Okay. And he says, 186 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if you are aware, but everybody at 187 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: the White House has to listen to the Kathy Hughes 188 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: at Dick Gregy show in the morning because all the 189 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: staff here keeps all the radios tuned. And I said, 190 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: so are you telling me that the president this is 191 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: morning show. We don't have any choice. We all listened 192 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: to it, and he became a regular listener and caller 193 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: to the show. But I know that was because of 194 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 2: Dick Gregory. Then one day I'm on the national board 195 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: of the Urban League and I tell Dick to come 196 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: go with me that President Bush was the speaker, and 197 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: so we're going down the receiving line. Afterwards, President and 198 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: the President talks about how Dick was his graduation speaker 199 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: at Yale University, and then he started quoting him, and 200 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: the President's handlers are trying to put President Bush. President 201 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: trying to move him, and he said, whoa, I'm talking 202 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: to mister Gregory. And so Dick said, well, let me 203 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: introduce you to Oh, I know who miss Hughes is. 204 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: I have to listen to her show in the morning. 205 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes you talk about me real bad, and you helping her? 206 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: Whoa right, okay, and you helping her. But mister Gregory, 207 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: you changed my life with that graduation speech. It brought 208 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: so much credibility and brilliance to that show that to 209 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: this date, to this date, people fill out their diary 210 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: saying that they listened to Kathy Hughes in the morning 211 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: with Dick's and permanent guest Dick Gregory and Dick's men 212 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: dead quite a few years now, and I've been off 213 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: the air quite a few years, But that was the 214 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: impact that we had in the nation's staff. 215 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, if that said he couldn't have got any black, 216 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 7: it was like we didn't think I can any black 217 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 7: up and here come was y'all. 218 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 8: Here it is, Yeah, I want to know. I want 219 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 8: to ask you Ms Cathy. You were a young mom 220 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 8: and like so you were talked about. You know you 221 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 8: have people that will watch a kid. How did you 222 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 8: balance motherhood like in the middle of all. 223 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: This, I didn't have to balance it. It was my 224 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: top priority. Okay, it was my top priority. I never 225 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: my son laughs and says that he had to be 226 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: fourteen before he didn't. He learned that everybody didn't work 227 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: or grow up in a radio station. Melvin Lindsay picked 228 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: him up from school. I love to cook, Okay, I 229 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 2: cook like somebody's grandmama. Okay, I cook, and so I 230 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: would cook on the weekends for the whole week freeze 231 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: that bring the food to the radio station. I do 232 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: my homework with his homework with him, and then I 233 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: had a sleeping bag if I had to stay late. Okay, 234 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: he was my date. Howard used to complain because I 235 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: had a little tux seedo for him. Okay, we get 236 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: dressed at the radio station, we go to affairs. Because 237 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: I didn't know anybody, I couldn't leave him, but I 238 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: didn't want to leave him with anyone other than Melvin. Okay, 239 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: who helped me. And he grew up in the radio station. 240 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: I mean Robin Holden used to put him out all 241 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: the time. She teases him now about that. She said, 242 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: you know how many times I put you out by 243 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: station because he would be down there helping her out. 244 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: And she said, now I need any help? Okay, But no, 245 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: never was I confused my first priority. I never thought 246 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: that I would have a career. I thought that what 247 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: God intended for me to be was a radio personality 248 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: syndicated I don't really have to work four hours a day, 249 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: and then the rest of the time I would take 250 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: care of the five sons that God was gonna bless 251 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: me with and a husband, and that my most important 252 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 2: decision would be what I was going to cook for 253 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: them that evening. It's seventeen. The Good Lord blessed me 254 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: with the one child that I would have, and uh, 255 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: you know I'm single now, but you know God has 256 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: blessed me with two husbands, and one of whom is deceased, 257 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: my son's father. And then Dewey Hughes, who you know 258 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: you may remember the movie Talk to Me? 259 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 6: Yeah A P. D. 260 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: Green? Did you have any like? 261 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 6: What was like with him? 262 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: I knew P. D. Green before I ever met Dewey. 263 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: Like I told you, The way I met Dewey was 264 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: he was bringing Melvin Lindsey back to work for me 265 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: at w u R. I knew p D. Because pet 266 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: was dating my roommate and has spending a lot of 267 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: nights up in our family house. And everyone's you know, 268 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: why weren't you in the movie? The reason I was 269 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: not in the movie was because I was not in Washington, 270 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: d C. By the time I got to Washington, d C. 271 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: P D. 272 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: Green was bigger than life. Okay, we had all these mmies. 273 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: He was working in television and I didn't know him. 274 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: I knew who he was, Okay, because they do only 275 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: because and Ca d C. Lemmons, who you know, just 276 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: did the Whitney a movie, the Whitney Houston movie, Casey Lemons. 277 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: The way they do movies is they test them. Okay, 278 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: and the test ninety percent of everyone they showed the 279 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: movie to said, well where is Kathy? Okay? All right, 280 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: why is she in the movie? I was in the 281 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: movie because I didn't even know Dewey existed nor Pete. 282 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: I was living in Omaha during the. 283 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: End is a lie. That's the name's Hollywood. That's cute. 284 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So they added that in the line at the end, 285 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: how's Cathy showed doing? And he says, it's doing great. 286 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: That's the ending line. But you know, I'm so honored 287 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: because Don Cheeto says to this day that the P. D. 288 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: Green roll was his favorite all time role. 289 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 6: I was going to ask you, how do you think? 290 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 8: Like you know, she would tell how him playing Dewey 291 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 8: was that accurate to the person? 292 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: Uni do we Tael and Dewey your friends? To this 293 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 2: day he was so Okay, Dewey's idol was Johnny Carson, Okay, 294 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: being from Omaha. Part of his you know, conversation with 295 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: me on our first dates had to do with Johnny Carson, Okay, 296 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 2: because Omaha is about as big as you all studio, Okay, 297 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: all right, okay, And so everybody in Omaha, and like 298 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: I told you, it's only black folks and white folks. 299 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 2: And I think our population when I was growing up 300 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: was right around two hundred thousand people, okay, of which 301 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: about twenty thousand were black, Okay, And so everybody knew everybody. 302 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: So you know, Dewey's infatuation with Johnny Carson, Dewey Dewey 303 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: is still the same way to this day. 304 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 5: How do you know when someone who wasn't a communications 305 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 5: major is ready for prime time, ready for the big time, 306 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 5: like you know, oftentimes, like a lot of people on 307 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 5: hip hop, you know, Mooney Love sort of transitions from 308 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: hip hop to radio, Chubb Rock transitions from hip hop 309 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 5: to radio. Like right now, like a lot of the 310 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 5: people I grew up listening to as hip hop MC's 311 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 5: and DJ's and whatnot are now transitioning to like even 312 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 5: I'll be sure having this show and whatnot. 313 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 6: So how do you how do you know? 314 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: Look at l J. We just honored him Monday night, 315 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: okay with the Icon Award, and it got left on 316 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: the editing floor. But the LL cool J story was 317 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: LL cool J was a member of Congressman Flake's church. 318 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: Floyd Flake Flake resigned as a congressman to go serve 319 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: his congregation. You as like, I'm not helping folks being 320 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: in Congress. So he went home and he called me 321 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: one day and he said that a member of his 322 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 2: congregation named Todd Okay, I was asking him about pursuing acting. 323 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: And this is when LL was at the height of 324 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 2: his hip hop career. Okay, but he was getting offers 325 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: because you know how they use the rappers for cameos 326 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 2: and you know, and some of them, like most deaths. 327 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: I thought was one of the best actors. Okay, the 328 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: movie he did where he played the doctor, which was 329 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: a true story. Okay, the Urgent, Okay, all right, I 330 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: thought that that was brilliant. I thought he was going 331 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: to be, you know, as big as Denzel. Uh So, Anyway, 332 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 2: they asked my opinion, and I told him that from 333 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: what I had seen of his acting, he was great 334 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: in that. You know, I would encourage him to pursue that. 335 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: One of my blessings is my best friend for many 336 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 2: decades is Dianna Williams, and Deannalliams has an eye and 337 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: an ear for talent like none other, and I depend 338 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 2: quite heavily on her. Okay, I may have a feeling 339 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 2: about somebody, but I'll ask d to take a look 340 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: at them, or listen to them, or you know, check 341 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 2: them out and see what her opinion is. I relied 342 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 2: very heavily and half for many many decades. Deanna and 343 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: I have been besties for probably half a century, to 344 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: be honest about it, okay, And the reality is depend 345 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: quite heavily on you know, Deanna's input, because she has 346 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,959 Speaker 2: the best eye and air. Okay, I'm better with music 347 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: because I have been tone death most of my life 348 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 2: and from a childhood accident. And so it used to 349 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: be when the music reps would come to the station, 350 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: they'd always play the new music for me because the 351 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: joke was if I could hear a hit, if it 352 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: moved me, okay, seriously, that was the case where Geene 353 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: Riggins was general manager. She said, I want you to 354 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: hear this song. He's from your hometown. I said, Nellie 355 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: is not from my hometown. And it was the right 356 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: country grammar, country grammar that she was playing for me. 357 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: Quincy Jones has said to me that getting a hit 358 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: wasn't really as complicated as a lot of people figured. 359 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: You have to hit a chord that's familiar to the listener. 360 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: And so when I heard Nellie's country grammar, I was like, 361 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 2: everybody knows nursery Rise. And so I said to Geane, 362 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: I said I hear this, and she said, okay, we're 363 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: gonna sign you know. Okay did But in terms of 364 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: on air talent, the two I have been blessed with 365 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 2: the two greatest Air personalities that have lived during my lifetime, 366 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: Tom Joiner and Deanna Williams. I don't think that they have. 367 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: There's no one comparable to their level of talent. There 368 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: is no one comparable to what both of them have 369 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: done in different ways, but to help individuals in the 370 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: communications industry and so to have close friendships with both 371 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: Tom Joiner and Vianna makes me look a lot smarter 372 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: than I really am. 373 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 5: I get it, we didn't even get to TV one 374 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 5: and unsung. But there's one thing I do want to know. 375 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 5: How good are you with the archival part of your 376 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: business as far as maintain old radio shows from yesteryear 377 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 5: and whatnot? Because I think oftentimes when we're building and 378 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 5: I say it's an empire, whether you say it's small fries, 379 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 5: I say it's an empire. 380 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 6: When you're building an empire literally empire, Nah, we think 381 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 6: I'm big. You're building an empire. You know. 382 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 5: Oftentimes we don't think we're making history day to day, 383 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 5: but then like thirty years go by, and like if 384 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 5: I want to hear, you know, what was radio like 385 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 5: in nineteen seventy eight blah blah blah blah blah or whatever, 386 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 5: Like how good are you with archiving like historical moments 387 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 5: that have happened at any of your radio stations. 388 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 2: So I now have a full time archivist that's trying 389 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: to get individuals, my listeners who have recorded things. To 390 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: be very honest with you, I have the money to 391 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: store things. I wasn't going to pay for our storage 392 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: bind when I moved, we threw it away. We threw 393 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: the stuff away, okay, because I was living it. Okay, 394 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: I was living it. I was trying to survive. I 395 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: wasn't interested in history, okay. I was just trying to 396 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: build a company, keep people. You know, I'm blessed to 397 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 2: say that never once have I had a check bounce 398 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: in the forty three years I've been in business, Not 399 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: once have I had a check bounce. Not once have 400 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: I had an employee who did not get paid. Okay, 401 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: And for a black company to be able to say 402 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: that after forty three years, it's quite an accomplishment, as 403 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: hard as it is and still is to get advertising. 404 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: But no, I didn't maintain those records. So my artivist 405 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 2: is thrilled every week when she comes across somebody who 406 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: might have a piece of my history. Okay, And trying 407 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: to reassemble it and pull it in and prized. You know, 408 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: just the other day, somebody went in their garage and 409 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 2: they sent me a video of me going to a 410 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: Naybob function with Quincy Jones. Okay. He and I went 411 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 2: to the nabob function that evening and uh, this person 412 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 2: uh had a copy of somebody interviewing us, okay, and 413 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,959 Speaker 2: we were talking about James Brown was being honored that evening, 414 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: and Quincy Jones and I were standing there and we're 415 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: talking about it, and then uh, they whoever it was 416 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: that was interviewing and said, well, we hope that you 417 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: all have a great time this evening on your date. 418 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: And I said, well, this isn't really a date, and 419 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 2: Quincy Jones said it is a date. Okay. 420 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 6: I was like, oh wait a date. 421 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 3: Wait, Quincy Jones a black woman. What happened? Right? 422 00:25:52,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: It was the story exactly story okay. So so we're 423 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: kind of piecing it together quest level. Because No, I 424 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: didn't maintain it. I threw the shit away quite frankly, 425 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: excuse my lately, because I put in afford story okay, 426 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: and I didn't have any place, you know, if I 427 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: adn't extra space. I was trying to put an employee 428 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 2: in it. 429 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: You just weren't thinking that you were making history. 430 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: I still don't think. I still don't think that I'm 431 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: making history. I'm very honored, Okay, I am very honored. 432 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 2: Uh when. 433 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 7: It's a crazy part, you are literally still the only 434 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 7: black woman with the most. 435 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: Radio and te like, there's nobody that's crazy. 436 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 2: And the other thing is quite frankly, I think that 437 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: what happens so often is that if we believe our 438 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: good press, then we get upset with our bad press. Okay, 439 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 2: and so I'm kind of no press. Okay. I have 440 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: read very few articles about myself. This Arkavist is like, oh, 441 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 2: look at this, and I was like, where was that? 442 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 2: And she was like, well, this was in so and 443 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 2: so magazine or newspaper. And I was like, I never 444 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: saw that. She said, well, you should have seen it. Okay, 445 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: it was front page or it was what when I 446 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: became the general manager of whu R it was front 447 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: page business section of the Washington It was years afterwards 448 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 2: that I actually saw it. Because I tried not to 449 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: concentrate on me as much as I tried to concentrate 450 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: on the mission. 451 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 5: Wait, guys, this is a historic moment. So we've been 452 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 5: doing this. We've been doing this for like what six 453 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 5: years now. Yeah, the running joke is with these guys 454 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 5: always ambushing me with love and accolades or flowers or whatever. 455 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 6: Before flowers, right. 456 00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 5: I've been I was previously notorious for not ever wanted 457 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 5: the same thing as you. Never recoppressed, never read the comments. 458 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 6: Never. 459 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 5: But you know, I also had to learn in the 460 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 5: last year that, you know, especially with black people, but 461 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 5: people in general just don't celebrate themselves. And you know, 462 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 5: it's but I understand that because we were programmed to 463 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: keep going. Yeah, we were programmed to just like stay small, 464 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 5: stay out of trouble, don't cost too much trouble, don't 465 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 5: bring you know, attention to yourself. And also, like you know, 466 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 5: if we celebrate ourselves, then we'll get big headed and whatnot. 467 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 6: And I would personally like us to think about at. 468 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 5: Least more more refocusing that part of our history and accept. Wow, 469 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 5: I'm actually forcing someone to accept flowers on quest love Supreme. 470 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 2: And you canna concentrate more on yourself. 471 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 5: I'm being forced to because everywhere I go, I got 472 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 5: people forcing me to celebrate myself. 473 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 6: So yeah, I given, I've. 474 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: He said you too, right. 475 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 9: I think everyone on this zoom could could do well 476 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 9: from acceptings some flowers everybody, everybody on this everybody on 477 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 9: this zoom is a very humble person who's very successful, 478 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 9: very good what they do. 479 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 6: And then one with fifty. 480 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 5: Six radio stations and their own television network, I think 481 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 5: definitely needs. 482 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: To you know, we're up to sixty eight. 483 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 6: Oh oh yeah, letter straight. 484 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 8: I want to ask you, mis Cathy, so what to 485 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 8: you in the in the era now of like podcasts 486 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 8: and you know, everything being kind of on demand with 487 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 8: you know, streaming and everything, What to you is the 488 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 8: purpose of radio in twenty twenty three? 489 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think the purpose has changed, particularly when 490 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: you talk about radio this gear specifically to the black community. 491 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: We are very research oriented and we consistently in our 492 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: research the listeners say second only to the black t 493 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: in terms of credibility. I think you know, I just 494 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 2: concluded a campaign that brought me so much joy over 495 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 2: the last two weeks about Stevie Wonder's happy birthday. Yes, 496 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: I triggered press, international, national press. I triggered so many 497 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 2: individuals realizing that you don't go to a black function 498 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: and don't hear the Stevie Wonder version and most people 499 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: have no idea that they're not singing the lyrics. That 500 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: the lyrics to that song is one of the most 501 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: beautiful points that Steve has ever written. Okay because okay, 502 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: just the fabulous tribute to Doctor King. But more importantly, 503 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: it was a protest song because the US comments would 504 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: not make the holiday exactly and the movement was dwindling 505 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: and really on life support, and that song really resurrected 506 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: and it was very special to me because that's the 507 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 2: same year that we went into business that he released 508 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: Hotter than July. Okay, Hotter than July was the LP 509 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: that the song was on. The birthday song was on, 510 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: and it even triggered Stevie. Stevie did a Instagram alive 511 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: talking about how you know, things haven't changed in forty years. 512 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: I was so proud of that. I still want my 513 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: company to be mission driven. I still want there to 514 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: be a message in our music. I still want there 515 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 2: to be content in our narrative that really makes people 516 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: stop to think, and so, you know, to be able 517 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: to continue doing this, I think it's what keeps the 518 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: relevance the importance of black on radio alive and so 519 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: even with technology, the reality is, one time I had 520 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 2: to compete against iHeart, I had to compete against AMFM, 521 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: I had to Now I actually compete against my actual listeners. 522 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: My listeners do their own playlists. My listeners think that 523 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: they're great DJs, my listeners. So not only am I 524 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: competing against corporations, I'm competing against the people that I'm 525 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: trying to serve. But as long as they keep coming back, 526 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: I realize that they are without saying it, recognizing that 527 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: we do the value. They recognize the value and that value. 528 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 2: You know, we're very emotional. One of the things that 529 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: kills a lot of old black folks is they go 530 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: to the same doctor for forty years. The doctor don't 531 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: even see that they got cancer, okay, because he's so 532 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: used to hearing them complain. And sister Sarah didn't been 533 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: coming here forty years, okay. We don't. We not real 534 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 2: quick to change certain things. We don't change preachers, we 535 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: don't change doctors. We don't change. 536 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 6: Barbara. 537 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 3: But it is. 538 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 7: It seems like black radio is getting smaller and smaller, 539 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 7: and the youth are not going to have the relationship 540 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 7: that like maybe we had as far because people don't 541 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 7: realize and. 542 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 3: That black radio is different. 543 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 7: And two and you can please speak to this and 544 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 7: don't realize that black radio is different in the sense 545 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 7: of this relationship with community rock, jazz, country radio. None 546 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 7: of these kind of genre stations have to have a 547 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 7: direct connection to the community, go to schools, do being 548 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 7: and it's so it's sad in a way, right. 549 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: And the relationship has changed its Urban One honors that aired, 550 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: you know, on Martin Luther King's birthday last night. Okay, 551 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: it did a fifty year tribute to hip hop and 552 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: the relationship. When they came out there with the young 553 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: man with the radio on his shoulder, it just kind 554 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: to warm my heart to realize and remember the days 555 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: where people would carry boom boxes on their shoulders. Okay, 556 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 2: be on Roller States, all right, I mean with the 557 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: bed with the boom box. Okay, that radio was like, uh, 558 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 2: you know, almost like a chalice is to a Catholic preach. 559 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 3: Okay, waiting to hit record. That's right. 560 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, it's changed and certainly with technology. But technology also, 561 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: even though it's brought on a different level of competition, 562 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 2: also has made it easier for us in so many ways, 563 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: because of voice tracking, because of being able not to 564 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 2: have to be at a certain like our gathering right now. 565 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: We're all over the country, we're all in different okay, 566 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: and yet we're having this podcast the same as ten 567 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: years ago. We would have all had to have been 568 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: assembled in your studio, okay, looking at each other, you know. 569 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 2: So it's helped with the delivery of the product. But 570 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 2: I really am not pessimistic about the future. I think 571 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 2: it will change. I think that certain things are already changing. 572 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm very dismayed over the fact that when I started 573 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 2: out there were almost four hundred black owned radio stations. 574 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: Now they're about one hundred and thirty two black owned 575 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: radio stations, and sixty eight of them belong to me. 576 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 5: Based on what you would have to get up at 577 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 5: four in the morning, five in the morning to do 578 00:35:55,520 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 5: in the bathroom. As is that human being that's looking 579 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 5: in the mirror with the brush? Is she satisfied with 580 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 5: the path that the universe has given her? 581 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 6: And is there anything else left to explore or conquer? 582 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 2: I want to come back and talk about TV okay, 583 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: because okay, I want to do a second podcast. I 584 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: like the podcast because I've had very strong opinions about 585 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 2: television and how it's really changing our perception of who 586 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 2: we are the way. Actually, I really want to come 587 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: back and talk about that. 588 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 7: Okay, give me a preview real quick, because now you 589 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 7: gave us a little bit, you got to give us more. 590 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was like, what, don't I know? 591 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 2: It's the reality is foreign countries see us through the 592 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: eyes of movies and television shows and our betrayal. One 593 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 2: of the reasons that I am still the only network 594 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 2: in this country that will air the Cosby shows because 595 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: that ensemble that is not forgiving what Bill did. What 596 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 2: he did was despicable, but that show more accurately portrayed 597 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: black life in America that any show has ever and 598 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 2: that ensemble should not be punished because of the wrongdoing 599 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 2: of one human being. I don't want the Chinese who 600 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: only see Housewives of Atlanta to think that that's what 601 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 2: black women are about, fighting with each other, screaming and 602 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 2: hollering the way media right now, the media is dogging Biden. 603 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: The reason Hillary Clinton never got elected president of the 604 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 2: United States would mose to somebody who couldn't even construct 605 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: a sentence, was because of the media dogging her like 606 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: and my opinion, she was more qualified to be the 607 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 2: president than her husband was qualified to be the president. 608 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 2: Nobody had done what Hillary had done. But the media 609 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 2: now no longer is covering the news. It creates the news, 610 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 2: and it decides, particularly as it relates to people of color, 611 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 2: what's important and what we should be thinking and what 612 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: we should be doing. Okay, but anyway, that's a whole 613 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: other podcast. I hope that you will invite me back 614 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: to because I think, okay, you might take that one, Okay, 615 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,919 Speaker 2: because if we don't get it under control, all right, 616 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: I do not know what's going to happen to the 617 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: future of us, all. 618 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 3: Right, y'all, we wouldn't know black girls be missing, Thank you, thank. 619 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 2: You exactly all right, and so very important. But to 620 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: your question, no, I have no regret regrets. There is 621 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. But I would do differently other than have 622 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 2: more than one child. Okay, I really, really really wished 623 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 2: that I had I had him so young. It was 624 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,840 Speaker 2: so you know, traumatizing and so scary for me quite frankly, 625 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 2: But I should have adopted. I should have made it 626 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: possible for more than just Alfred to benefit from the 627 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 2: blessings of this media conglomerate that God has blessed me 628 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 2: to be able to build. I have adopted individuals like 629 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 2: like I have. You know other individuals that I have 630 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 2: you know been a big aunt to our godmother or 631 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 2: a grandmother. But I wish that I had biological Okay, heirs. 632 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 3: Do you mind me interrupting real quick? 633 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 7: I just want to say this because we've been through 634 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 7: a lot in these forty years something years as you 635 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 7: know me. 636 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 3: But be clear, the only reason I wanted to be. 637 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 7: In radio is because my godmother had a best friend, 638 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 7: Nam Kathy, who who owned radio stations. Be clear, The 639 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 7: first radio job I ever got was at twelve year 640 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 7: so when I volunteer at wo L WMMJ, your first 641 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 7: radio station. And be clear that when I went to 642 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 7: Clark Atlanta University, you were the one that made the 643 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 7: call to doctor Gloria James and said she's an internship 644 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,919 Speaker 7: with w Clkay, so thank you. And to be clear 645 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 7: that I had the best all female morning radio show 646 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 7: on radio one. 647 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 3: Shout out to Shamara. 648 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 6: You just closed the show. 649 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 3: I know. 650 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 6: I was like, that's like some Mike drop version. There's 651 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 6: nothing else, Like I said, be clear. 652 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 2: I know about Sugar and Bill not saying anything. 653 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 6: We don't say much. 654 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 9: We try to we know what to talk. 655 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you said you were single. 656 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 6: That was my only question, so. 657 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 9: Questions. 658 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 8: I wanted to know IFIs is it anybody that you 659 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 8: want on Unsung that you haven't been able to get 660 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 8: you Unsung wishless? 661 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 6: Does Stephanie finally give in? 662 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 9: Yet? 663 00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: No? I know the fifty mentioned I loved them right, 664 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 2: and their position with me has been we're not Unsung, 665 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 2: And I was like, that's not the purpose okay of 666 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 2: the show. Okay, And I said, well, would you at 667 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 2: least do Uncensored? But yeah, I do have right, uh? 668 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: And they topped my list every year we pitch them. 669 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: We have pitched them every year. 670 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 3: There. 671 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 2: I mean, they they actually were trend centers. And I 672 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 2: think that that story needs to really be told. And 673 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 2: because I was such always and still am such big fans. 674 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 2: And then I mean, look how long the marriage has endured. Okay, 675 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 2: it's hard, Okay, all right, Okay, that's very rare. Okay, 676 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: And I mean remember when Smokey and Right exactly that 677 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 2: didn't work. Okay, it's hard to do what they have accomplished. 678 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 2: The fifth dimensions are. 679 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 5: And so you have to create a format a show 680 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 5: called trendsetters. 681 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 6: Or at least the title will cater to the ego 682 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 6: of the. 683 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 5: Artist, because I've heard artists say, well, I'm not unsung, 684 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 5: so I'm not doing it because I think in their 685 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 5: mind they think like unsung means failure, but no, it 686 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 5: just means that, it means. 687 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 2: You didn't get your just recognition. Should do more. 688 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 6: You should be called flowers. 689 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 2: Yeah more. I thank you all for this opportunity. I 690 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 2: like doing a podcast you want. 691 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,439 Speaker 5: Thank you knew it what you want to It's gonna 692 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 5: be the Cathy Used podcast next week for. 693 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 6: Exactly you gots. 694 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry to break the news to you this way, 695 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 5: but yeah, Kathy's taking over. 696 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 6: So I appreciate it. 697 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 2: When you when you retire, quest Love, can I. 698 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 6: Fill in absolutely, It's yours. You can buy us out. 699 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 5: Right now, Okay, Okay, I pick us up. Sorry, iHeart, Yes, 700 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 5: I've sold. 701 00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 6: I just made a deal. Yeah, family, Faith, it's. 702 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 2: I know that you don't like the flowers. You don't 703 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 2: like the accolades, but. 704 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 6: I'll take the flowers. 705 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: Okay. The things that you have done in your career 706 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 2: have been exemplary. Okay, I thank you for who you are, 707 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 2: not just professionally but personally. Like I said to me, 708 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: it's not about you know, establishing yourself as a celebrity 709 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 2: or you know, any of the rest. It's really about 710 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: who you are as a human being. Because in the 711 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 2: end of analysis, that's all we came. Herenicked, we're gonna 712 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 2: leave out here, neked and the only thing we have 713 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 2: is that which you have done to help other individuals, 714 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: and your record stands for itself. So thank you. I'm 715 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 2: truly honored and truly honored to be you guys, particularly 716 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 2: the one that's interested in me being. 717 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 6: Single and you mentioned naked, So. 718 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 5: All right, Sugar, Steve, Bill Frante, and Layah. 719 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 6: This is another episode West Love Supreme. Thank you very much. 720 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 6: The great cat views were sign it off. Thank you. 721 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: West Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. For 722 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 723 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.