WEBVTT - Is Integration Costing Black America Its Power? | Native Land Pod 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.160 Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio and partnership with 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:08.440 Reason Choice Media. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:09.440 Welcome Home, y'all. 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.200 This is episode one thirty one of Native lampod where 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.120 we give you our breakdown of all things politics and culture. 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.520 I am your host, Angela Rai, joined by my co 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.040 host Andrew Gillum and Bacari Sellers. A lot is happening 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.439 this week, guys. Donald Trump is just just at war. 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:27.080 Yes, too much is right. That's to be the name 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:28.960 of the show. Too much it's happening. 0:00:29.560 --> 0:00:32.040 Donald Trump is not just at Warren Iran. He has 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.920 declared war on America. Snap cuts are hitting states and 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:39.840 so our redistricting lines to silence our voices in Tennessee, Louisiana, Alabama, Missouri. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:42.599 But there may be some wins at least for now 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:46.560 in Mississippi, Indiana, and South Carolina. Doctor King was worried 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.160 about integrating his people into a burning house? 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:49.720 Was he right? 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.640 Getting into all of this and then some today? Welcome home, y'all, 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:59.320 Welcome welcome home. Okay, do you guys feel like you 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:00.920 need to say anything? Show open or can we jump 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.800 on it in? They all right, let's get into for 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.440 your situational awareness because we have a lot of news 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:18.600 you can use. Gop Republican representative. I'm sorry, I just 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.200 didn't even know what to call her. But after this, 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.399 she's going to be a sharecropper because listen what she said. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.600 So Jim Kiggins recently joined a radio show where the 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.720 host had something to say about Democratic leader Hakim Jeffries. 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.560 It's given big sharecropping vibes. Let's go ahead and roll 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:32.000 that clip. 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:35.200 If a King Jeffries wants to be involved in Virginia politics, 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.039 then I suggest he does what all a bunch of 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:39.560 New Yorkers are doing. Leave New York, move down here 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.800 to Virginia. Run for office down here. You can represent us, 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:46.240 if not, get your cotton picking hands off of Virginia. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.400 That's right, yes, yes to that. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:55.440 So she claims she didn't hear him say cotton picking, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.120 but she said that's right, Yes, yes to that. That 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.800 is three of her left yes, and hints that's why 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:05.160 she's a GOP Republican because I want to double down in. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.120 Her yes, yes, yes to that. 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:11.400 The congresswoman is in a contested race against Representative Elaine Luria. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.680 She's a former congresswoman representing that area of Virginia Congressional 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:20.680 second Congressional District too, which holds Chesapeake and Virginia Beach areas. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:23.000 Kakeim is calling for her to resign. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.920 What do y'all say, should she be censured on the 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.800 House floor, reprimanded? How about the making sure that punishment 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.240 is equal in the House of Representatives, which y'all think. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:36.520 No, no, not until we get to speak of the House. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:40.400 Who believes that the Congress is the first branch of government. 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:43.360 Yeah, no, I mean we got bigger schristal fry. I 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.960 mean I think that that, look, what she said was racist. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.040 Let let spend some money in her district. Let people know, 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.520 because she's up for an election in a tough district. 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.880 But I'm more concerned about the individuals who are, you know, 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.320 as Andrews says, making sure we don't have people who 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.600 share our lived experiences in common in voting that way 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.320 than what people say on a little AM radio show. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:05.920 So I just think we got we don't have that 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:07.359 much time and we don't have that much energy. So 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.800 let's focus that on what I think moves the needle. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:13.160 Okay, y'all saying keeping the main thing, the main thing. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.519 I will just say it could be used. And I 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:18.160 think what Kart was getting here, he said, spend a 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:22.079 little bit of money within this district to just drive up, 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.960 you know, negatives and see if this thing can't be flipped. 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:27.680 Yeah. I mean, if you drive up her negatives half 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.200 a point on this, that's a win. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.200 Well, and I think that's part of this strategy, right. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.880 It's not like resign or get censured for resign and 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.920 cents your's sake. It would be to try to take 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.120 that seat back because she's im moral and racist or 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.480 at least aligns with them. 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:42.120 So I think. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.960 You know, however, however, we got to make the math 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:46.400 math against these map maps. 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:47.400 We got to figure it out. 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.280 So again hooking by hook a by crooks, Like. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.880 Well, that's they're saying for sure, my Jesus. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.200 Okay, So now here's my next question for y'all. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.560 What happened to separation of powers or minding conflicts of interest? 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:04.680 Because I really want to understand why six conservative all 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.640 six all six conservative justices from the Supreme. 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.880 Court, we're living it up and living their. 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:14.200 Best life at the White House for Trump's state dinner 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:19.119 honoring King Charles the day before, a very consequential voting 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.760 rights vote. This was the day before the Louisiana versus 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:22.960 Cali decision dropped. 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.440 What were they doing, y'all? What are they doing? 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.679 This is a tough one when you at Clarence Thomas 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:35.680 taking rackets that total more than tens of millions of 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:40.040 dollars in value from people who have business before the court. 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.120 And the Chief justices response is that we have a 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:48.279 policy internally, but that it is a self governing, a 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:53.400 self policing policy around ethics. Nothing surprises me when it 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.640 comes to this court. I think Justice Jackson had it 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:02.080 right that they are just partisans, their acting as partisan characters. 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.839 There's no reason that we should confused the American people 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.280 that their actual jurists when it comes to making decisions 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:16.280 between democracy, the constitution versus Trump and Trump's priorities. Trump 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.480 and trump priorities take precedence with this court period. 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:23.560 You know, I think that there has been a direct 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.799 correlation and I can't remember who made it, between Justice 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:32.560 Roberts and Justice Tanny who arthured the eighteen fifty six 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.560 fifty seven I should know that dred Scott decision that 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.960 said that African Americans free or enslaved were not citizens 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:42.719 after the Cali decision came down is eighteen. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.960 By the way, that was close, very close. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.159 And I think that, yeah, when you look at the 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:52.880 Cali decision, there is it is analogous to the tenure 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:58.840 of Chief Justice Roberts. However, this lack of ethics is 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.200 a new kind of a nundrum that the Court is 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.880 dealing with. He's going to be remembered both for taking 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:08.120 away the rights of women. You know, if you a 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.040 woman who was born forty years ago had more rights, 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.719 reproductive rights and a woman born today taking the rights 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.800 of African Americans away with the with the evisceraration of 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:19.800 the Voting Rights Act. 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.599 I mean he he's going to go in the most 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:27.080 self contradicting court in the history of the courts. I 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:31.080 mean courts reversed themselves, but usually generations later. 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.840 Yeah, they reversed themselves in three years. They said President 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.600 three years ago, don't don't apply today. And I mean 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.680 they told us they get This is the same court 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.880 that gave us that a corporation as a citizen, which 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:47.400 fundamentally changed the way that politics in this country works. So, yeah, 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.040 the Chief Justice Roberts. But how you like them apples. 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.000 Your mudium Damn. 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.440 I had a good transition to I said, I don't 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.200 like the mapple that all, but if we eat one 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.840 a day, it keeps the doctor away. And Andrew actually 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.520 has some information that is very helpful about how we 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.120 can live our best lives regardless of what the Supreme 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.640 Court is doing living it up on our expense. The 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.360 nerd in him found out about an epigenetic study that 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.200 makes a correlation between music and extending lifespan. So Andrew, 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.840 please fill us in on this necessary bio hack. 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:25.800 Well, I don't know if it's cute, but I know 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.360 we got a little video introduction to this. But I 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.880 told you earlier I was a nerd on this one 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:37.800 because so epidemiology for those who don't know, basically, I 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:43.000 think the literal translation is on top of genes meaning 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.040 other than your genes, which we get a lot of 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.360 information and inputs to tell us that our genes are 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.360 predictive of our lifespan, of habits. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:51.360 Of. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:58.000 Various diseases that through no fault of our own, we 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:03.120 can contract. Well. Science is telling us that our life 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:08.000 trajectory is based basically about fifty percent on our genes 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.480 and the other fifty percent on our behaviors, our habits, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.640 our diets, so on and so forth. Well, just this 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:16.400 week a new study was released. Well, actually, I'll let 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:17.320 the Newswoman tell you. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.600 The Newswoman is nuts news. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.040 Seventy five year old man's I'm about the new. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.080 Speaking of age, here's the. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:31.240 C what what do you think? 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.880 Okay, my sick figure may not sell for millions in 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.840 some prestigious art gallery, but apparently creating art may help 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:43.320 us age slower. A new study from University College London 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.720 found people who regularly do things like read, listen to music, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:50.520 or visit museums may biologically age slower. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:51.120 Than people who don't. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.800 Researchers say the mental, emotional, and social stimulation from the 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.960 arts may help keep our brains healthier as we get older. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:06.280 Finishing, touch, cooking, dance, music, let me know in the 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.440 commons below, you. 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.959 Know it was just music age. So I'm glass. She 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.000 drew her little stick. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.640 Figure, and guess what I have for two days now 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.680 been doing art in my garage. This is a piece, 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:26.640 a piece I translated using birthday masks. But this is. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.679 Put about put it all the way, like, put it 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.480 in front of your face. Are you wearing this mask 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:32.760 to a. 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.480 Nope, but they were from Mars masks. But the point 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:43.960 is is that the the life extension that is expected 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.120 through the science and research has been done on this 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.000 is about a six percent increase in your lifespan capacity, 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.120 which equates to about a year that you add to 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.680 your life by doing just things like arts, culture, going 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.760 to see a play, music, singing, ansing, or enjoying those things. 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.080 And there is no difference in whether you are the 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.400 participant or the observer. And guess what else? This was 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.480 the kicker for me. It is equivalent. The six percent 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.240 is equivalent to the exact same life extension you get 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.120 by doing exercise over that same period. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.720 It's pretty impressive that you're gonna be able to fit 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.160 your clothes, y'all take it from me. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.319 Here, no guarante here, no guarantees. 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:28.720 But maybe it's fine if we can get lightpo suction 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:29.200 paid for. 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:30.760 But car, you should let us hold something. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.800 We hear you have an important lawsuit against open AI 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:39.400 given there. Unfortunately I'm not going yet. They are unfortunately 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.439 to the shooter at FSU. So this is important and 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.000 I'm not saying that you were paid out yet. I 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.560 know you'll let us hold some on the other side, 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.160 but please talk to us because I think it's really 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.679 important for people to know about the dangers of AI 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.320 and the overreach without regulation. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.760 So yes, I was joined by Greg Francis and Robbie 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:01.240 Bell from Osborne Francis in Orlando and Banished from Banister, 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:04.880 White and Stallvey in Greenville, South Carolina. Along with my 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.400 law partner, Amy will Banks. We represent Tiru Chaba, who 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.440 was an employee of air Mark who was down in 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.439 the student center. Air Mark, as you all may or 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:17.640 may not know, is one of the largest food service 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.600 providers in the country and they were down there visiting, 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:26.120 attempting to get in good graces so they could maintain 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:30.840 a contract with Florida State University. When young mister Eigner 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:36.600 opened up shots in the student center, he killed two individuals, 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.680 including my client. And one of the things we found 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.520 out as we were going through this process is we 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.400 actually got thirteen thousand chat logs turned over to us 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:53.160 over a year of communications between chat GPT and mister 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.760 Eigner talking about everything you can imagine, but you could 0:11:55.800 --> 0:12:01.640 steadily see someone going through a downward spiral, to say 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.840 the least, and the day of he actually would ask 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.079 questions like what time is the best time to go 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.920 to Florida State where the most students would be on campus. 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:14.560 They gave him a time frame he committed the murders. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.800 During that time frame. He would ask him about the 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:19.439 types of weapons that he had and how they should 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.000 be used. He asked him how many people had to 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.440 be killed in order for the to garner the news. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.559 He expressed admiration for Columbine et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:32.960 And so we filed this seventy six page lawsuit. I'll 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.920 actually add it to the show notes so anybody who's 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.599 interested or any young students who want to go to 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.280 law school can read it. It's a product's liability case. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.120 It's a uphill battle because we're fighting, you know, I'm 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.440 a country board from Denmark fighting billionaires in Palo Alto. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.800 But we feel like we're standing on on just ground. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.000 I was in Tallahassee this week in front of the 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.680 courthouse announcing this lawsuit, and I'm excited for what's next. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.199 This isn't like two thirty cases that everybody hears about 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:02.160 against YouTube and Facebook, because in those cases, YouTube and 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:06.120 Facebook only source information from other folk. In this particular case, AI, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.000 it actually creates the content that it regurgitates to the user, 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:12.760 and it does so without any safeguards. And the last 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.840 thing I'll say is everybody can probably go on and 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.360 find access to those thirteen thousand chats, But after you 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.520 do it, it really makes you want to hug your children, 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:23.560 because this young man was going through so much and 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.920 he utilized chat GPT as his best friend. That was 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.920 his group chat. That's like the only person who spoke 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:29.079 to all day every day. 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:36.480 Sounds like Nick Fintez. But beyond that, I remember the shooting, 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:39.880 and naturally we just celebrated, well, rather commemorated a year 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:45.920 since that tragic event occurred at Florida State University. My 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.760 heart always races when I, of course, hear about shootings 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.080 on campuses. I think about schools, I think about kk 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:54.520 phup system, I think about it all, and I'm sorry 0:13:54.600 --> 0:14:00.600 for the passing of your client's child. I say this 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.520 if for folks who may not completely I think understand, well, 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.920 why chat GPT. If the individual is asking the question, 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.640 then they're just answering them. If those questions were posed 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.800 to an adult over the continuum of a year's worth 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:19.760 of time. There would be a composite picture pretty much 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.800 gained by that set of exchanges that would have sent 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.640 up some red flag laws, would have sent up some 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:30.040 Baker Act potentially that would have caused some level of 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:36.720 intervention that could have potentially staved off this event. The 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.640 shooter's mother was actually a local Shares deputy here in 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:42.280 sibley On County. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:44.480 One of the Weapons Service weapons. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.280 Yeah, and I deeply regret I think the way the 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.120 community treated. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:51.640 Her. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:55.160 The sins of the mother are not the child, and 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.040 the sins of the child are not the parent. But 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:03.080 I will say I am I've been terrified of AI, 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:08.720 and only after listening to this interview this week about 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.240 this new book that just came out this week, I'm 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.600 Not a Robot that chronicles the life of a journalist 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:20.920 who spends an entire year using AI for just about everything, cooking, scheduling, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:26.400 getting a massage from a robot, and comparing these experiences 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:30.400 between the human experience and that of the robot massuits. 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:35.560 And she came out saying, I was surprised, terribly surprised 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:40.480 that the robotic experience was comparable, if not better than 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.440 the human experience, and what I think I feel about 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:50.840 that is we one are replacing ourselves, but two, why 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:55.840 isn't there any regulation on this stuff? And why can't 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.760 people in government move to protect our jobs? Our interests 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:01.960 are cuture? What are the ethics around this? I don't 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.240 leave it up to Elon Musk and his ethics to 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.400 define the parameters of what it should and shouldn't be 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:11.080 used for. I think it requires government intervention and maccari. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.280 I hope through this lawsuit, not only are you going 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:16.280 to find justice on the other side of the family, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.680 but that it will awaken some consciousness and lawmakers around 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:21.400 how to regulate this. 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.480 Stuff that we absolutely need it. 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.000 We also need somebody to regulate Donald Trump's mouth, because 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.280 what is it with him and black women reporters? So 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:33.440 he called Rachel Scott of ABC a bitch because she 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.960 had the audacity to ask him a question he did 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:37.320 not like. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:38.160 Let's roll the clip. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:44.360 You're just right, thank you, thank you, press, thank you. 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.240 You see the DHS secretary next to him. 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.560 I mean, you know, of course that's raise MB And 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:53.040 then he called a Kayla Gardner a very dumb person 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.480 for asking about a ballroom that was supposed to be 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.520 paid for by private donations, and then the four hundred 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.520 million dollar bill got passed the taxpayers. Then now they're 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.399 saying is a billion dollars based on a Secret Service 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:10.440 briefing with Republican senators just on Tuesday, they're saying it's 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.520 two hundred and twenty million to hearten the White House complex, 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.760 one hundred and eighty million for a visitor screening facility, 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.199 one hundred and seventy five million for training, and another 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.280 one hundred and seventy five million to enhance security for 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:27.240 Secret Service protectees. According to a memo that was provided 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.680 to NBC News, let's please roll the clip where he 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.520 has the audacity to talk to the system this way 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:33.439 for asking questions. 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:34.040 We all have. 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:42.960 Ballroom. 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.800 So what happened is we have a ballroom that's under budget. 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.800 It's going up right here. I've doubled the. 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:53.240 Size of it because we obviously need that and we're 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:58.080 right now on budget, under budget and ahead of schedule. Yeah, 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:02.879 I double the size of it. You dumbed for if 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:09.760 you are you are not a smart right over here? 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.560 What about right over here? And based on a lot 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.720 of things that have happened over the last year, we uh, 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:18.480 we double the size. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:19.400 Of the ballroom. 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.960 So we're gonna have a ballroom that's appropriate for the 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.240 White House. We double the size. The ballroom now is 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:28.320 ahead of schedule and it's a little bit under budget 0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:29.680 depending on the finishes. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:35.480 And so here you hear him in the mind question. Wait, 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:36.879 let me just say this one thing real quick me 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.960 just so we like clarify this. Here you hear him say, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:43.840 you dumb person, You're not a very smart person, very 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:46.800 clearly right into the mic. On the past clip, you 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.919 see him mouth bitch, but you don't audibly hear it. 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:51.920 But there are a lot of reporters that heard him 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.040 say that about and to Rachel Scott this one, you 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:56.280 hear it directly of the mic. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.080 Be your question, Yeah, this is for. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:07.399 Y'all too, Like, how should black reporters, particularly black female reporters, 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:17.760 respond to this level of disrespect while maintaining whatever societal 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:22.320 decorum standards we have in place for the way journalists 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.359 or professionals are supposed to act. 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:28.000 Answer. 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.040 I guess, since I'm the resident black woman, I will go. 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:37.119 You know, I don't know if you should ask me, 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:40.679 because I'm not going to be the one, like the. 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.159 Only one here. There are some people out. 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.720 So I'll tell you how I would respond if he 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.760 said to do what Donald. 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.840 Trump did and let me respond no, ma'am, yes, please, 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:54.919 somebody not me. 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:56.159 I'm not doing let me. 0:19:56.640 --> 0:19:57.760 I can't reenact. 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:00.800 I'm not going to say hen Kong a black woman dumb. 0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:04.120 So somebody can edited. And then on the side tomorrow, 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:05.560 Ellen kick me out. 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:10.439 Derek, do me a favor. Run the part of this No, 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.160 I just want to show you how I respond. 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:12.520 Derek. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.080 Run a part of the clip where he says dumb person, 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:16.879 and cut it off right there so I can respond, 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:17.680 like he's talking to me. 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.359 Donald Trump, why they have this ballroom? Cost as much? 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.119 Go I double the size of it, You dumb person? 0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:26.199 Who the are you talking to? 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:27.040 Like? 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.480 I don't know, ain't no mister president here. I don't 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.040 know who you're talking to. There's nobody dumb standing here. 0:20:33.080 --> 0:20:35.120 I know you love to call black people low iq. 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.480 I know you love to challenge our intellect, but the 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.080 only dummy standing here is you, because you're the one 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.159 that can't do the math to figure out that number one. 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:43.640 We don't need this ballroom. Number two. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:47.120 You've broken all kinds of laws soliciting donations for said ballroom, 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.359 and now you're trying to pass this off to taxpayers. 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.800 I'm trying to figure out who you're talking to, who 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:53.640 you think you're fooling, because we all see you. 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:56.360 In secret service. 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:02.359 To the gates of the White House. 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:04.879 And she's fired from ABC. She won't even make it. 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.879 She wanted it, that was that was okay, So she 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:09.480 actually works for MSN. 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:14.600 Now confused, I'm not. 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:15.120 Going for that. 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.200 Like, I don't care who you are, you don't get 0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:18.000 to disrespect me. 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:19.760 And I do think that there is an. 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:23.479 Obligation for us to carry in the strength and the 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.200 respect of other black people, other black women into those spaces. 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:30.320 I don't think that we should like I don't think 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.119 that it's our obligation to just be like okay and 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.600 just keep asking the question. No, there's a line that 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:39.040 you've crossed, and you have violated my self respect and 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:40.440 I'm not going to allow that to happen. 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.439 I'm just not I feel I think what one with 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:46.360 these journalists are trained to do is not make themselves 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:48.399 a story. So they're going to go out of their 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:52.320 way on all counts not to become what the thing 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:56.320 is that people are talking about. They want. She is well, 0:21:56.400 --> 0:21:59.920 of course, but but imagine had she, you know, said 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.320 I'm not a bitch and then kept going there was 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:05.000 you know, she then becomes she replaces the story she 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.520 wants to cover. The story she wants to cover is 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:12.080 how the everything you touch Donald Trump basically is cheaper 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:14.800 before your hands get to it, and then you touch it, 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.280 you break it, and it costs the American people more money. 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.120 There's a trend here, right. Let's look at the straight 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.760 of her moves, which was open before he declared war. 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:27.879 He had had a success at getting anything else done 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.080 in this war other than costing the American people billions 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:33.480 of dollars. And we still ain't gotten no strait of 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:34.120 her moves open. 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:34.440 Right. 0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.080 So the White House he destroys it. He wants to 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.880 build a ballroom. It starts a two hundred million, then 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.040 it goes to four hundred and fifty million, and now 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:46.600 we're over a billion dollars. Everything he touches cost everybody 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.719 more money. That's I mean, that's that's not what she 0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:51.919 was going to say, but that's what the viewer is 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.080 to interpret from these rising costs that are so constant 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.040 with him. What I would like to see, though, is 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:05.320 the journalist together rebuke the behavior of the president. He 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.679 calls white women names, he calls anybody he doesn't like 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.760 from anywhere in the world a name or an insult. 0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:16.360 If he doesn't like what's coming out of their miles. 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.199 They together say no, I agree with you. Yeah, but 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.960 I just want to say, why can't they together, as generalists, say, 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.480 put a lot of demarcation. We will not cover this 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:28.520 White House and till such and such, we will not 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.440 at least attend your press conferences to carry your message 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:34.480 until such and such. And they're not doing that well. 0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.960 And I think that that is part of the challenge 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.200 when you when if they all stand together, let's walk 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.600 this out. And this actually leads great into our viewer 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:48.160 question into our next topic. When you protest in that way, 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:51.480 when you are the people of consciousness in that way 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.720 with this administration, what ends up happening is they just 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.720 find your replacement. It's not a replacement that's credible. But 0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:01.440 look at what the press room at the Department of Defenses. 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.679 I refuse to how that shit wore Department of Defense 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:09.480 looks like now right like there is something about having. 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:10.280 To still be present. 0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:13.720 I think that we are reaching the point or we 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.520 have long reached the point where we have to draw 0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.359 the line in the sand with this man as a 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:23.760 human being first, because he regularly violates human decency. 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:26.280 You know what I mean, get it, get it. 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.359 And I think my recommendation is not not to protest 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:33.439 the press conferences itself, but not to carry their messages. 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:37.640 So these things begin with them rolling out their lives 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.440 and you know, fantasies that they want you to then 0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:44.960 carry on your evening news rather than the types of 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:48.399 questions that should be being posed to these folks. But 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.320 you know, I just don't have expectations for the man. 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.040 But I don't think we should allow it to be 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:54.000 gotten away with either. 0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:56.560 My only point is I think her bosses should. I 0:24:56.640 --> 0:25:00.320 think her bosses should show some level of respect for 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.359 her and come out and say something as well. I mean, 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.119 that's just for me, I agree with you, for both 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.040 of them. Yeah, but I yeah, I agree. I mean, 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:09.680 I just think that this some higher ups you should 0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:11.920 come out and at least issue a statement that that 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.760 type of disrespect would not be shown to employees of 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:17.879 ABC or a mess. 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.560 Now, now I'll say this be if I had any 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:24.200 confidence at all that the news organizations would do that. 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.240 That would not be my response. I would say something. 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.480 I'd be like, yeah, I would be like, I'm not 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.880 sure who you're talking to, but I do have a question, right. 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:33.520 But if I knew that my organization would do that, 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:36.119 if I knew, they would not have my back, which traditionally, 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.119 we're seeing that the FCC issue with the view is different. 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.440 We're seeing ABC kind of show up a little differently, 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.720 but in the meantime, we know we're going to have 0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:59.160 to show up for ourselves. We have a viewer question 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.480 along these lines, and this comes from Latrina. 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:04.080 Let's hear a question from Arkansas. 0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:09.400 Hey, lady Pa, my name is Latrina from Little Rock, Arkansas. 0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:11.520 I got a question for you all. 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.040 I am really completed. 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:20.920 My question is they're redistricting everybody returning, taking away Democratic districts, 0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:26.600 putting us in Republican districts. What happens then? What happens 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.080 if we don't vote? Who are we supposed to vote for? 0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.520 If we're refusing to vote for anybody with an art 0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:39.080 beside their names and we're left with no representation. What 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.560 happens if we don't vote or who are we supposed 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:47.520 to vote for? Now that is my question. Can y'all 0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.600 please put that can speak on that we are I'm 0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.359 out here compised. I have never missed an election. 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:54.600 I'm forty eight years old. 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:59.040 I voted in every election since I was eighteen. Please 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:01.800 help signed a confirm voter. 0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:05.600 I love it when I tell you. 0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:07.600 I don't know why that made me emotional, but it 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:13.399 really did. Thank you first of all for calling in. 0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:17.800 I do feel like our people are at this remarkable crossroads. 0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.520 And when we started the show today, of course we 0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:24.680 talked about some of the small victories in South Carolina. 0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.200 Of course they took a vote on Tuesday and decided 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:32.320 and actually some of the Republicans sided with Democrats and 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.119 didn't move forward in the Senate with redrawing the maps. 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:36.520 But I mean, one of the things that you saw 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:40.679 in South Carolina was that it was twofold one the 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.119 Cinate Majority leader, Shane Massey, who we are diametrically on 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.159 a pose on issues like tort reform, for example, but 0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:49.560 he is and Andrew probably knows this from having to 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.480 work closely with the legislature as a mayor. He is 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.520 the most shrewd adversary that you could have on the 0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.639 other side. He sees things for what they are. He 0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:02.320 is a traditional conservative Republican who believes in those conservative values. 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.000 And so I don't question whether or not he wants 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.320 South Carolina to be better. We just have different ways 0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:11.440 of getting there. Right. It's that old type of way 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.840 of having political discourse and dialogue. And what he said is, 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:16.960 he said, by going seven zero, the first thing you 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.840 need to realize is when there's a Democrat in the 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.560 White House or Democratic majority, we ain't gonna have nobody 0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.920 to pick up the phone, he said. And we need 0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.800 resources in South Carolina. So from a governance perspective, it 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:28.960 makes the most sense. The second thing is we don't 0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.639 do mike districting reapportionment. That's just not what we do. 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.280 We're not gonna sit here. It's a slippery slope. And 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.920 what he recognized, he said, now we have is red now. 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:40.920 But twenty six years ago, thirty six years ago, South 0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.320 Carolina was a blue state. North Carolina blue states, a 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:46.160 lot of these states South, the whole South. People forget that. 0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:50.120 We just became the South became red in the early nineties. Right. 0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.520 And the last thing he said was he said, man, 0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.920 he got that southern in his blood. He said he's 0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:57.720 not gonna sit here. And this harkens back to the 0:28:57.800 --> 0:28:59.920 old time and what we fought a whole world over. 0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:01.840 But he said he's not gonna let the federal government 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:03.400 come down him and bully him and tell him what 0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:06.320 to do. He does not if it's Donald Trump or 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.240 whomever else. He is a Donald Trump. He supports the 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.600 president of the United States. He supports a Republican president. 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:13.760 But he was able to articulate ways. And they got 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:17.080 seven eight Republicans along with the Democrats. And you know, 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.160 I spoke to the Democratic leader and I said one thing. 0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.800 I said, look after Virginia, let's not play any games 0:29:22.880 --> 0:29:24.680 and game this out and say we may have access 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.200 to two or three, let's take the one we know 0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.000 because every vote, every seat counts in November. 0:29:29.760 --> 0:29:32.120 Can I just say this, I think it's important to 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:36.280 note the Republicans didn't. 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.880 It wasn't a winning vote on redistricting. 0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:43.400 What they needed were two thirds of a majority to 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:49.480 approve this to be able to proceed towards this redistricting resolution. 0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:51.920 So in a twenty nine to seventeen vote, there were 0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:55.880 five Republicans who joined with the twelve Democrats to vote 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.680 to vote no, and that meant that the two thirds 0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.320 majority wasn't not successful. I think, Andrew, I'm gonna come 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:05.280 to you, and then I want to go to Okay, 0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:08.120 and then for Tennessee. What I want to talk about 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:11.200 here is you all know last week Tennessee voted to 0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:16.760 remove the only black congressional district in the state. There 0:30:16.760 --> 0:30:21.800 were protests by several members and we saw Justin Jones 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:28.240 burning Confederate flag. We saw Justin Pearson face to face 0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:34.000 with I think it's the Sergeant at Arms or whoever 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.320 their equivalent is in the House not allowing him access 0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.760 to the floor for that vote yesterday. Unlets please put 0:30:40.800 --> 0:30:47.880 this up, Derek. We had a letter that the Speaker 0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.760 of the House sent to and of course I can't 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.240 read this, but I have it on my phone to send. 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:55.440 To leaders Karen Camper. 0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.400 But anyway, the point is that in this letter thank you, 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.000 they say that due to the actions of some of 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:07.360 the Democratic Caucus members by the way that they're taking 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:11.320 them off of all of their committees, all of their committees, 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:15.960 they they sight of a blatant or a blanket. 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:19.160 Rule from the Permanent Rules of Order of the House. 0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.240 I went through all thirty two pages and don't see 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.800 where this cites anything. But what I want to really 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.240 get into, y'all, is this moving goalpost. 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:28.400 We go to Mississippi. 0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.960 Mississippi's Governor Tate Reeves said the Thursday last Thursday that 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.640 he was ordering a or no the Thursday before last, 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:40.680 a special session to redraw the congressional maps in Mississippi. 0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:45.400 On Wednesday morning, Tate Reeves says he's canceling that special 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:50.480 session to comply with an order from uh the Court, 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:54.880 a federal appeals court, saying that they they they vacated, 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.880 they vacated an order requiring them to redraw those maps. 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:03.480 So now Tate Reeves is in a Twitter battle with 0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.800 Congressman Bennie Thompson, saying it's not a matter of if, 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:07.320 but when. 0:32:07.440 --> 0:32:09.960 So, even these victories are short lived. 0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.600 The Supreme Court of Missouri said that they were going 0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:17.440 to uphold these maps that will take Congressman Cleaver, Emmanuel Clever, 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:21.200 my former boss out of his old district. Congressman Andre Carson, 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.360 he said he's safe for now in Indiana. What I 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:29.760 want us to understand, y'all, because Tennessee is revisiting something 0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.680 they did in twenty twenty three AG we were talking 0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:37.120 about this. The Justins were expelled from the House for 0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:41.840 protesting around mass shootings. So it's not like they haven't 0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:44.640 done this before. It's not like they haven't tested the waters. Texas, 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.800 of course, was a case study. And so I'm trying 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.600 to what I really want to know. This was a 0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.560 really long setup. But what I really want to know 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.760 is in this redistricting battle, are we on the right 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.920 side of history to keep forging ahead, to keep pushing this. 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.000 Latrina asked us if it was smart for her to 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:08.280 vote at all because she feels so unrepresented by the 0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:11.240 people they're offering her. I know, we have videos from 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.000 Congressman Clyburn and race to places, but we'll get to that, 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:15.960 but I want to just start there with y'all. 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:18.920 You know, just we'll quok on the question and I 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:24.400 appreciate the question, and she evotes something in me as well. 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.920 I mean, it really is the most purest way you 0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:33.560 can look at this process, right, democratic, small D democratic. 0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:36.720 I have been voting since I was eighteen. I haven't 0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.680 missed an election. What am I supposed to do now 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:44.680 when the ballot has no options for me to choose 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:49.120 to select no one who I could put in who's 0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.239 going to be my representative voice. I just want to 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:57.080 remind her and anyone else who may be confronting this 0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:01.320 as part challenge, is that one there should always be 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:06.840 a choice, and there usually is. I know, And in 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:08.719 my part of the state, we got a lot of 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:13.000 Republicans at nearly every other level of government than the 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:16.319 municipal because we happen to be a blue sort of 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:20.200 democratic Bastian. But my congress member is a right winger. 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.280 I still go and I vote every every time. I 0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:28.759 don't vote for him, but I vote every time. You 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:31.960 you still have the ability to hopefully choose a candidate 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:36.440 who you like and are willing to support. The question 0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.960 is is whether or not the odds of the new 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:44.839 district as it is designed, is such that even when 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.880 all of us vote our full might for the candidate 0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:54.240 of our choice, will it be enough to overcome the 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:58.680 Shenanigans of the Republicans and their gerrymanderin efforts. And I can't, 0:34:58.760 --> 0:35:01.160 and I don't think you can yet, and I don't 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:05.600 I know. I cannot say how close or how far 0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:10.120 apart those numbers will ultimately end up being. When I 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.480 say numbers, it's how many Democrats in the district, how 0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:14.719 many Republicans in the district, how many independence and non 0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:17.040 party affilies are in the district. Because the truth is 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.800 is that right now Democrats running for congress congressional seats 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:25.360 are closing an eighteen point twenty point gap on average 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:29.840 between how many points how many votes the last Democrat 0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:33.640 got compared to the last Republican. And so if you're 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:39.040 in the district that's now twelve percent more Republican, down 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.839 from thirty percent. We still have a fighting chance, but 0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.080 we won't know that until we see the maps. I 0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.200 just that's a technical kind of answer, but that's the 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.799 best I could offer on what do you do when 0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.520 you when you have a ballot that doesn't seem representative 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:54.600 of your of your choices. 0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.520 Well to that point, let me, I'm just gonna I 0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.319 want to I want to raise this clip and then 0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.600 can you answer on the other side. Since Andrew brought 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:05.440 up maps, Royce Duplessis is sitting in on the Government 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:09.279 Affairs Committee now that Troy Carter's nephew, Gary Carter was 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:12.720 removed or voluntarily stepped aside under the threat of removal. 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:14.920 They were in session till four in the morning. 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.120 Royce says, everybody fighting for this, you know, four to 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:23.319 two map, the Republicans pushing and Donald Trump pushing for 0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:24.560 a six to zero map. 0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.000 The two Democratic. 0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:31.400 Seats in Louisiana occupied by black men, Troy Carter and 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.759 Cleo Fields. They have gone back to the map that 0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:38.560 existed before Cleo won his seat. So I want to 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.640 play this clip from Royce and Bakari. Please weigh in 0:36:41.719 --> 0:36:43.000 on the other side and say what you were going 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:43.600 to say as well. 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:48.720 Hey, so we just wrapped up. It's about four forty 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:52.240 five in the morning. Committee just wrapped up. We started 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:58.799 around seven o'clock and we just wrapped up. And what 0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:02.760 advanced out of the committe was a five to one map. 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.239 So currently Louisiana has a four to two map. We 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:09.120 have four Republican seats, two Democratic seats. What was advanced 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:12.080 out of committee was a five to one map that's 0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:17.280 going to have five Republicans and one Democrat. That bill's 0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:23.759 going to move to the floor. But this this harmful 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:31.520 bill that reduces democratic representation, Black representation. It just reduced, 0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:37.400 it just hurts representation across the board. Advanced on a 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:44.239 four to three party line vote after hours hours of 0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:52.120 testimony against reducing this representation and against diluting the vote 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:57.200 of people in this state. Hundreds of people showed up. 0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:01.840 Literally just one person was in support of this bill 0:38:01.880 --> 0:38:04.840 to move out of a committee. Just shameful stuff, totally 0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:10.239 anti democratic, totally disrespectful, really bad stuff. I'm gonna give 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.879 y'all more of an update at some other time when 0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.560 the sun is up, because I need to go back 0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.120 inside and do something, but get some rest. 0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:20.799 I guess. 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:24.520 We got committee A nine thirty tomorrow. 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:28.640 So really disappointed right now, really disappointed, But we're gonna 0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.600 keep pushing and look, let's stay in the fight. 0:38:33.000 --> 0:38:34.799 Man. I don't want Royce to be disappointed. 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:34.920 Man. 0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:36.600 I don't walked out of I don't walked out of 0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.720 the State House some nights after budgets passed. I remember 0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:42.640 one budget we took away HIV and AIDS fund adapt funding, 0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.200 and we had we had the most people in the 0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:49.239 country on the age drugs waiting list. And so a 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.120 lot of times your state legislators, your city council people, 0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.200 when they're fighting a good fight, they feel like emotionally 0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:58.719 intellectually drained because you go out in spaces and you, 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:04.200 you try to. You you serve, not just because it's 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:08.440 a higher calling, but you have what may be the 0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:14.239 definition of insanity because you genuinely believe that what is 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:18.000 right will prevail, and you go to work every single 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.600 day echoing that if I continue to beat the drum 0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:26.759 of righteousness and justice, it will prevail. And so they 0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:28.839 always say, when you do the same thing repeatedly, over 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:30.880 and over again with the same results, that's the definition 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:32.960 of insanity. And so I do think it takes a 0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.040 level of insanity. But Royce and the people who came 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:40.239 out and Troy Carter, and I saw the four Cleophils. 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.360 I saw the four members who black members who have served, 0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.200 and Cedric Richmond and Elena and all of those people 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.880 who did that work. They actually did preserve a black 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:55.080 district in Louisiana. The goal was to eradicate it all. 0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:57.239 But Cali gave them the right to. 0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.440 In Cali, yes, gave them the right to. And I 0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:04.239 want Royce to know that his work was not in vain. 0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.719 And you know, we were on the opposite side of 0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:09.000 a mayorial campaign. So I hope he hears this, that 0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.720 it actually shows that God puts us sometimes in places 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:16.400 where we can do the work of justice for this moment, 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:18.680 and it appears that he is the right person, in 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.120 the right place, in the right time for this moment. 0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.320 So that's first. I wanted to kind of talk about 0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:27.799 the why right. A lot of people, and I think 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.840 the young lady who asked the question, a lot of 0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:35.440 people don't understand because they don't understand the why of 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:40.279 what's happening. And I think when you just simply examine it, 0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:44.680 your gut is right. This redistricting is not done for 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:49.080 any type of fairness. In democratic principles, everybody understands that 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:52.080 when you draw lines, you're supposed to draw lines so 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.600 that they're fair, so that you have districts of similar 0:40:55.680 --> 0:41:00.000 characteristics or cities of similar characteristics that share similar needs 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.160 have somebody to go and represent them. This is sheer 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:08.759 partisan power graph, and so that notion is offensive to 0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:11.200 most and they believe that that notion that they believe 0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.640 to be true just can't be right. It has to 0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:17.319 be something else. But in this particular case, that is 0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:23.160 it naked. No, it's naked political ambition. And if you 0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:25.760 turn the page of it. This is why I say 0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:30.799 that watching Republicans during this time is fascinating because you 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:35.320 realize their politics are so basore because of the fact 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:38.359 that when you have a Democratic White House or a 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:42.080 Democratic House, and you have a six h seven zero 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.640 map in the South, where you have CBDG grants, where 0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:48.320 you have poverty that is running from the top border 0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:52.280 to the southern border, when you have issues that need resources, 0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.439 you're going to be calling Washington, DC, and ain't nobody 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:58.600 going to pick up the phone. Yeah, so your power 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.520 graph today twenty twenty six is going to be more 0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:06.600 devastating to your constituents even in twenty twenty seven, twenty 0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:09.520 twenty eight, than you ever could imagine. Now, the last 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:12.480 thing that I'll say is that Andrew's right being a 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:17.239 candidate in this environment, it would suck because if you win, 0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:22.120 you have caught the proverbial submarine right, because every single 0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.160 day you are in a swing district, you're going to 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:27.120 be spending more time in New York City raising money 0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.239 from them same billionaires that you ran against. Spending time 0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:32.880 away from your family every single day is going to 0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.640 be a campaign for you. So you're going to have 0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.279 to dedicate yourself to something totally different. And those of 0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.560 us who are asking Andrew or Macari sellers, are you 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:43.200 going to run for Congress? That is literally a consideration 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.960 of running in a swing district, like do you want 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.680 to govern policy or do you want to spend every 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:53.960 single day campaigning? And you got to you literally have to. However, 0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:57.319 if you answer that question, yes, we get back to 0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.360 the point where you do have a chance. And a 0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:02.080 lot of these than districts because although they took away 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.080 the forty five fifty to fifty five percent African American, 0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.960 they did boost the BVAP and when then whatever we 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.640 say BVAP ladies and gentlemen, that's the black voting age 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.280 population for some of these districts from twelve to twenty five, 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.960 twenty five to maybe thirty. And so you'll have a chance, 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:20.920 a punch's chance doing an environment like this, and so 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.040 all of those things I think matter. And I probably 0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:24.560 said a whole lot. I hope, I hope a little 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.399 bit of it made sense to somebody that it's good. 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.600 Nobody knows. 0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.680 I want us to pull back a little bit. Latrina, 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.440 I don't know, Andrew, I don't know. You know me, 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:41.080 and you get. 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.120 Emotional, actually, but car gets emotional too. 0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.759 But it's just something about what she said and then 0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.120 topping that off with what Roy said that just pull 0:43:49.200 --> 0:43:53.200 on my heartstrings. And there's a question, you know, a 0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:57.000 rhetorical question that Congressman Cliburn raised in his interview with 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.680 Jake Tapper that I want to play quickly and then 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.080 I want really like elevate And I don't know if 0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:05.080 I should say elevate just come out of this, broaden 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:07.640 out the conversation. So can we play that clip and 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.320 then let's broaden out Well. 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.080 My first reaction was, if you look at this, Evan, 0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:14.279 let's just look at South Carolina and look at the 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:19.520 congressional district in South Carolina. Why is it okay they 0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:25.400 have a seventy five percent white district and that's not racial. 0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:30.360 If you have a forty five percent black district, that 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:34.759 is racial. So what is this about. There's no way 0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:38.000 that the numbers bear this out. When you look at 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:41.480 what the Supreme Coach regions had been, you have to 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:45.279 come to the conclusion that they're throwing everything out of 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:49.720 the window, coming up with new theories, putting in their 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:55.880 own prejudices in this, and they're being very potesant in 0:44:55.960 --> 0:44:59.279 their rulings. I never thought I would see today that 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:02.600 the United States kream grow would be so openly partizan 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.359 with what it's been doing. And I really believe if 0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.560 you look at all of these decisions and you look 0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:11.800 at the history of the country, I think the Justice 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:17.120 Roberts is going to take his place alongside some other 0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:23.600 infamous justices like Taine, who gave us the dress Scott decision. 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:31.759 I wanted to play that because, as Bacari talked about 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.720 at the top of the show, the dread Scott decision 0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:39.799 of eighteen fifty seven, the John Roberts Court decision that 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.839 gutted the Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five. Of 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.960 twenty twenty six, this is the two hundred and fiftieth 0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:52.719 anniversary that some celebrate of this country. It will be 0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:56.920 on July fourth, seventeen seventy six, and it is time 0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:00.600 for us to come to the alter call of justice, 0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:06.720 to really determine if this is a country a place 0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.480 that holds space for us, not just for us to 0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.760 vote in a fighter for the sake of preserving the record, 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.080 or for the sake of preserving history, or for the 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.839 sake of you know, leading the resistance, but is there 0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.319 space for us to actually be the builders that we've 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:26.399 been from its foundation in sixteen nineteen, and to get 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:29.880 the credit for it and the space in it to thrive, 0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.279 not just to barely survive, not just you know, for 0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:36.840 another fight. I was telling you guys on the call 0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:40.000 earlier that I spoke to the Laura Miller Bar Association, 0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.520 which is our Black Bar, and what was on me 0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:44.760 what my speech was called, the nation is on fire. 0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:49.000 And I harken back to, you know, Professor Ogletree coming 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:53.080 to speak to us at the Nabalsa convention, and he 0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.719 talked about our houses on fire, and Doctor King in 0:46:56.760 --> 0:47:00.640 a conversation with Harry Belafonte said something else. For her context, 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:03.560 Charles Ogletree spoke to us in two thousand and four. 0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:08.000 Doctor King was having the house on fire conversation in 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:11.040 the sixties with Harry Belafonte. This is what he said. 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.960 I've come upon something that disturbs me deeply. We have 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.799 fought hard and longed for integration, as I believe we 0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.680 should have, and I know we will win, but I 0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:24.080 have come to believe that we are integrating into a 0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:28.040 burning house. I'm afraid that America has lost the moral 0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:31.920 vision she may have had and I'm afraid that even 0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:34.960 as we integrate, we are walking into a place that 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:38.280 does not understand that this nation needs to be deeply 0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:43.240 concerned with the plight of the poor and disenfranchised. Until 0:47:43.280 --> 0:47:46.600 we commit ourselves to ensuring that the underclass has given 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.200 justice and opportunity, we will continue to perpetuate the anger 0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:53.839 and violence that tears the soul of this nation. I 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:57.920 fear I am integrating my people into a burning house. 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:05.120 Yeah yeah, and one that's one that has fuel being 0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:09.120 actively thrown on the flame right now. You know, when 0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.280 I think about some of the acts that these members 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:14.560 of the state legislatures have taken just recently in the 0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:17.960 states that we identify as a small win because they 0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:21.920 decided not to completely and utterly bankrupt democracy in their 0:48:21.920 --> 0:48:27.120 state for now, for now, is that I'm surprised that 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:31.400 none of them made the argument of just the self 0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:35.640 preservation and reputation of their state. These are Southern states, 0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:39.560 most of which are at the bottom of the charts 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:44.960 on nearly every indicator that directs to whether or not 0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:52.920 you're going to have a thriving health, educational job, economic 0:48:53.640 --> 0:49:01.680 workforce slash community worth living in. And when you don't 0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.960 have representative voices that speak to the deepest of the 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:08.760 needs of the people in your state, and you start 0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.200 to tumble even further down than where you are, if 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:13.840 you didn't already think you were at the bottom. What 0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:18.040 multinational corporation decides to relocate into a city or a 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:21.920 state that is literally on fire, that's burning down because 0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:26.040 you have now suppressed, removed, suffocated the voices of the people, 0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:31.120 ignored their needs, and now you've got streets that are uninhabited, 0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:36.080 neighborhoods that are uninhabitable, schools that are uninhabitable, no jobs, 0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:40.480 and so people are walking around shiftless. This is what 0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:43.400 they are inviting if they were to just to take 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:48.719 your term, Angela, just pull back and recognize that this 0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:53.200 is a self defeating mission they are on. They think 0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:57.440 they're doing it despite our noses. That's what they think 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:01.840 they're chopping off. These folks are going to see that 0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:04.880 they have led the actions that they are taking under 0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:10.200 the insatiable thirst and hunger for power and their obsession 0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:14.760 with it, that they are literally throwing their states over 0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:18.320 the cliff. You can't keep a people who have something 0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:23.560 to say silent for perpetuity. It's like a boiling pot. 0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:25.879 It may simmer for a while, but it will get 0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:28.920 too hot and it will boil over. And when it 0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:33.560 boils over, it's going to be bad for everybody. Everybody, 0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:37.160 So don't do it for my sake. If you actually 0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:40.160 care about the places that you are elected or selected 0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:44.440 or appointed to represent, and you recognize also that the 0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:49.560 house is burning down, don't throw kerosene on the fire. 0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:54.040 Figure out a way to abort mission. Pull up, Maverick, 0:50:54.239 --> 0:50:59.920 you are flying too close to the sun. You'll get burned, yeah, 0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:02.759 and eviscerated. It's just I don't I don't mean to 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:04.360 take this to a place where it didn't mean to go. 0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:09.600 But these are if I'm a black man, Yes I'm 0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.439 in the South, I'm all those things. But if I'm 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:13.840 just to pull back as a person who cares about 0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:21.279 and loves where I live, and I do, then you 0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:23.799 have to at some point say, is this in the 0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:27.880 best interest for the future of my my children? Yeah, 0:51:27.960 --> 0:51:32.960 my family, my neighborhood, my schools, my roads and infrastructure 0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:37.279 and public parks, and it is just really in the 0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:39.760 interest of it. And I think if anyone who searches 0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:43.840 themselves and shouldn't take long, you should conclude pretty quickly, 0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:48.040 this is a bad deal, period. Angela. To the question 0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:51.960 of whether we aboard mission, unfortunately, I think under the 0:51:52.040 --> 0:51:57.040 conditions and under the systems by which we operate, and 0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:01.680 given the fact that, as you say, and hopefully profitably, 0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:06.000 that we built this joint for free, they need to go. 0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:09.839 They need to go. 0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.040 He said, get the hell out of my country. I'm 0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:14.120 just do not come. 0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:19.759 My favorite line, she knows I want a T shirt. 0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:20.560 That's my girl too. 0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:24.799 All I'm saying is is we have we are so 0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:30.440 deeply vested in these places. We have built these places, 0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:34.120 We've strengthened these places. We have bent that moral compass. 0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:38.880 We've been that we are that. Why should we vacate? 0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:42.040 Why should we have to absorb ourselves? No, I know 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:43.000 that wasn't your suggestion. 0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:48.239 No, no, no, I have a follow up. Well, because here's 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:52.560 the question. What I appreciate. There's a an account on Instagram. 0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:55.600 Their hope is not AI. But it was really good. 0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.200 I actually stayed at reading. They had like ten pages 0:52:58.239 --> 0:52:58.400 of the. 0:52:59.160 --> 0:52:59.799 Learned it from us. 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:05.480 Okay, but it's called black art matters with two s's, 0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:07.960 and what they what they do so artfully in this 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:10.520 piece that I really appreciate because becr you know, from 0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:12.960 our pre production car yesterday, I was on some I 0:53:13.000 --> 0:53:15.680 don't know, maybe the house burned down to ashes. 0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:17.160 We just need to go over and build something else. 0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:18.279 I'm not beyond that. 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:20.200 By the way, I do think that we're in the 0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:22.960 ash of the thing. I don't think that there's even 0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:26.359 a structure left, like not even the frame. But they 0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:30.600 say that integration was a double edged sword essentially, right, 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:34.239 there are things that we got that we benefited from integration, 0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:38.680 like a better hospitals, you know, better schools, better access 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:43.560 to you know, a wider range of educational possibility, better 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.040 paying jobs not the best, so you know, there's still 0:53:46.040 --> 0:53:48.920 a lot of work to go there. But what we 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:53.040 lost in that process was all of our institutions. And 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.319 sometimes even when we didn't seek integration and we had 0:53:56.360 --> 0:53:59.520 all of our own institutions, they still burned those down. 0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:03.560 They found reasons to destroy our ability to be self reliant. 0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:07.399 And so the question really is do we continue down 0:54:07.520 --> 0:54:11.640 that dual track? Is that what is required of us? 0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:14.960 Because I don't think that we can totally secede, you know, 0:54:15.160 --> 0:54:18.200 I'm not trying to say, like, let's be the black Confederacy, right, 0:54:18.960 --> 0:54:22.440 But I do wonder Andrew not like hmm, actually that 0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:25.920 might be a good idea, but like, what is our 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:26.839 path for y'all? 0:54:26.840 --> 0:54:27.480 We're tired? 0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:27.920 We fight. 0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:31.280 Not only are we fighting the fight, fighting the fight. 0:54:31.080 --> 0:54:34.239 Of our ancestors, we're fighting the fight we already won. 0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:36.920 We have to go back and redo this because we 0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:39.600 didn't do as Reverend Jackson said or Jesse Junior said, 0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.319 the constitutional amendment was required for y'all to do the 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:46.120 right thing. You got to have a constitutional amendment guardrail 0:54:46.160 --> 0:54:48.759 because a legislative action isn't sufficient. 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.000 Come on, man, that's just too that's a lot. 0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:56.280 So to answer your question kind of plainly and bluntly, Yeah, 0:54:56.520 --> 0:55:00.160 be blunt, like I don't think we I don't. The 0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:02.640 three of us ain't got no choice. We ain't going nowhere. 0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:06.600 We can't go nowhere. And the reason that we ain't no, no, 0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:10.560 ain't we no because we have lived, we have lived 0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:14.080 a life where our loved ones have paid too much 0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:17.200 for me to abandon this journey. Now you know what 0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:18.759 is it? He brought me too far? 0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:19.960 Now? 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.880 Yeah, So like I know how you think, I know 0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:25.960 how you feel, Angela, I slept with you. I went 0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:27.840 to bail yesterday at six o'clock. I was tired. I 0:55:27.880 --> 0:55:32.759 slept with your question because I understood it, and a 0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:34.640 lot of times you one of the things I'm trying 0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:39.600 to be better at is not discarding people's genuine intellectual curiosity. 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:45.239 And I came to the resolve that we don't have 0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:52.680 a choice because of all of the effort, time, energy, blood, sacrifice, 0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:56.879 pain that people have put into this struggle to make 0:55:56.920 --> 0:56:00.600 this country a more perfect union. She not that right. 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:06.000 And also, we also took for granted many of the 0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:10.320 achievements that were garnered by so much death, devastation and 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:14.080 brutality around us. We took for granted the Voting Rights Act, 0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:16.200 we took for granted the Civil Rights Act, we took 0:56:16.239 --> 0:56:19.640 for granted the Fairhousing Act. There are not the three 0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:21.640 of us, because we have our own beefs and quarrels 0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:24.799 and qualms. However, there are a lot of us who said, 0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:28.360 when Barack Obama got elected, we rested on our laurels 0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:32.200 and said, we have proverbably made it. This is the mountaintop. 0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:36.120 And then we had opportunities throughout the pendency of our 0:56:36.160 --> 0:56:40.279 life to preserve a democracy, which we didn't necessarily understand 0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:44.279 was fragile and made some choices, calculations and votes which 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.880 proved to be devastating. Now, the analogy is Donald Trump 0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.600 is a bull in a china shop. The unique part 0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:53.800 about that, however, is when that bull leaves that china shop, 0:56:53.920 --> 0:56:59.600 that china is forever broken. You cannot glue China back together, 0:57:00.080 --> 0:57:04.520 simply cannot. It's forever damaged. And so the first thing 0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.360 we have to do is reimagine what democracy in this 0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:10.600 country should look like. And we have to literally spend 0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:14.280 time reimagining what these systems should look like that treat 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.480 us as full citizens, and not only treat us as 0:57:17.480 --> 0:57:20.760 full citizens, but make sure that we have the ability 0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:23.320 to thrive in these systems, each one of them individually. 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.320 We need to re examine that and reimagine that and 0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:31.200 figure out from a very very a very very just 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:35.960 fundamental level of making sure that we are part of 0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:41.560 this participatory democracy right and it starts right here in 0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:44.120 our own houses. It starts with raising good humans. It 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:47.640 starts with making sure that we are doing the sub 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:51.560 precinct work, that we're organizing again, that we're listening to 0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:55.480 communities again, that we are participating in school board meetings 0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:58.520 and local city council meetings, and we're making sure that 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:01.480 people run for office all of the offices, not just 0:58:01.520 --> 0:58:04.160 the ones that get you on YouTube or get you 0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:06.280 on Twitter, or when you lose the race, may get 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.840 you on cable TV. But making sure that we have 0:58:08.920 --> 0:58:12.400 people doing the good work. It means that our institutions, 0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:16.640 which are flailing many times, whether or not you're talking 0:58:16.640 --> 0:58:19.440 about our civic organizations, that means being a part of 0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:22.400 these institutions, not just being a part of them, but 0:58:22.520 --> 0:58:25.440 trying to redefine them from the inside, becoming a life 0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:28.120 member of the NAACP. And then challenging Derek where you 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:30.040 want him to be challenged. You know, I think he 0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:32.360 does a good job. But if you want something different, 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:35.200 if you want leadership to look different, then challenge it. 0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:38.120 Going to your church, going to the black church. Don't 0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:40.840 be afraid, but don't come empty handed either. Make sure 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:43.480 you're putting your resources and your time and your treasure 0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:46.920 where your mouth is. Stop just calling bullshit out from 0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:48.439 the sidelines and get in the game. 0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:56.720 Who cares about truth when the last morning's seen it? 0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.400 And also, at the end of the day, I think Andrew, 0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.760 you have been talking about this a lot more frequently 0:59:04.800 --> 0:59:07.280 over the last six months, Angelib but Andrew's been talking 0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:09.080 about it for a while. We have to do a 0:59:09.120 --> 0:59:11.360 better job of taking care of ourselves because too many 0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:14.440 of our soldiers are dying. Too many young people are 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:17.760 dying because of the stresses that this world has caused 0:59:17.800 --> 0:59:20.080 and put upon us, because of the environments that we 0:59:20.120 --> 0:59:23.320 live in. And there's a direct correlation between the insanity 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:25.479 that we go through our mental health and then living 0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:27.800 in a food desert where you don't have access to 0:59:27.840 --> 0:59:30.560 fresh fruits and vegetables, and so you die. And wonder 0:59:30.560 --> 0:59:32.720 why people at forty four years old are having massive 0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:35.480 strokes or heart attacks. And so I think all of 0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:40.040 these things are necessary, and we cannot we cannot cannot 0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:43.040 resort to the Messiah complex that some of us do 0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:46.240 so often, which is sit back and try to wait 0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:49.720 for the next great Messiah. I think that that power 0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:52.840 is within all of us, and a lot of times, 0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:54.760 the last thing that I'll say is we take for 0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:59.280 granted our successes so far, but we also don't fully 0:59:59.280 --> 1:00:02.400 comprehend the power that is within all of us that 1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:03.720 Donald Trump can't take away. 1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:06.560 I love all of that, and I just I say, 1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:09.919 Book Curry, I want to thank you and Angela thank 1:00:10.000 --> 1:00:14.400 you for the topic, because it has caused me to 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:16.880 sit back and think about some things a little differently. 1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:20.120 And one of those things is is I definitely took 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:24.440 for granted how much that operates in our society from 1:00:24.520 --> 1:00:30.640 day to day that were not legally codified. They were 1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:36.800 norms and traditions and the ways in which you treat 1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:44.080 people respectability, you know, like all the things that Donald 1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:47.080 Trump has upset in this system. I kept being like, 1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:49.120 there's got to be a law for this. I know 1:00:49.200 --> 1:00:51.840 they've got this somewhere into this and this and that, 1:00:52.240 --> 1:00:55.400 and it's like, oh no, no, no, they know that 1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:59.280 doesn't exist in writing legally codified for us to then 1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:03.439 be able to claw back what he has taken out 1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:07.920 and worse over, because his co conspirators, the majority of 1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:12.120 the Supreme Court, are in cahoots with him as they 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:17.200 all realize their version or their vision for the beloved 1:01:17.520 --> 1:01:22.120 white supremacist society that they want to live in. The 1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:25.560 rest of us out here on the struggle bus trying 1:01:25.560 --> 1:01:27.880 to figure out where we're all. Where are all of 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:33.400 these ironclad promises and safeguards that were supposed to kick 1:01:33.440 --> 1:01:38.200 in the gear when a tyrant showed up. And they 1:01:38.240 --> 1:01:42.840 don't exist under the cover of the law. They exist 1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:46.560 in traditions and the good will that we extend to 1:01:46.600 --> 1:01:50.320 our neighbor that when given the opportunity to do the 1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:52.480 right thing or the wrong thing to each other, you'll 1:01:52.560 --> 1:01:55.040 choose to do the right thing. When you're a leader. 1:01:56.560 --> 1:01:58.440 That's not the default position. And if I had to 1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:02.680 argue it, that's never been the default disposition of leaders 1:02:03.240 --> 1:02:05.600 in this country. They don't just choose to do the 1:02:05.680 --> 1:02:08.680 right thing, they're forced to do it. When they do it, 1:02:08.720 --> 1:02:13.960 they're forced oftentimes. I certainly consider this for the opposition 1:02:14.240 --> 1:02:18.919 oftentimes because some of the things that I think when 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:24.480 you said re envisioning this democracy, I remember the legislative 1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:30.760 agenda for so many civil rights organizations reading the same 1:02:31.160 --> 1:02:34.280 way from year to year to year on a couple 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:39.479 of fronts. One was about voting rights, another was around 1:02:39.600 --> 1:02:45.440 establishing our citizenship beyond. Another was around what we do 1:02:46.160 --> 1:02:52.200 to further clarify and law the Voting Rights Act so 1:02:52.240 --> 1:02:57.680 that the courts were not left you wonder, not interpret, 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:00.480 but to wonder and create new law from the bench, 1:03:00.800 --> 1:03:03.320 which is what I believe they've done in these most 1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:09.880 recent cases, but they are given verse line, paragraph sentence. 1:03:10.560 --> 1:03:15.400 What the lawmakers mean when they say the Voting Rights 1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:17.400 Acting who is to have access based off of this? 1:03:17.440 --> 1:03:20.880 Is that in the third and unfortunately, we had a 1:03:20.920 --> 1:03:26.960 sixty vote Democrat majority in the US Senate, we had 1:03:27.520 --> 1:03:32.520 a a House under democratic control and a White House 1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:38.000 under democratic control. No longer can we afford to flout 1:03:38.520 --> 1:03:42.840 those kinds of winds and fail to do the most 1:03:43.080 --> 1:03:47.560 basic of responsibilities that we have to ensuring our democracy 1:03:47.560 --> 1:03:50.080 and the protection of the people who got you there, 1:03:50.560 --> 1:03:54.280 because none of those protections exist even after a sixty plus. 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:58.240 We had sixty one, and then Kennedy died, and then 1:03:58.240 --> 1:04:03.040 we lost that seat to the due who ran against them, 1:04:03.240 --> 1:04:06.480 I mean, ran to replace him out of Massachusetts. And 1:04:06.560 --> 1:04:12.880 so Democrats are now having to be called for higher purpose. 1:04:14.280 --> 1:04:17.320 I don't care about you, don't call me, don't I 1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:21.360 no solicitation. Just state your plan and make it plain. 1:04:21.600 --> 1:04:25.600 I'm not reveled by what Trump did and said, and 1:04:25.680 --> 1:04:27.160 da da da da da da da. You got to 1:04:27.200 --> 1:04:31.320 get serious about the business of governing and securing our 1:04:31.440 --> 1:04:34.080 freedoms and the power, the little bit of power that 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:36.080 we are able to claw back. Otherwise, y'all, we're gonna 1:04:36.080 --> 1:04:38.720 be right back in the same place or worse. 1:04:39.760 --> 1:04:42.120 And I think you know on that. 1:04:43.080 --> 1:04:45.200 The fact that we are back in the same place, 1:04:45.440 --> 1:04:48.160 to me begs the question. And i'd ask you all 1:04:48.200 --> 1:04:51.880 at home to consider what is left of the structure 1:04:53.160 --> 1:04:56.480 of the house. Is it the frame? Is it smoldering ashes, 1:04:56.560 --> 1:04:59.160 is it some that were in between? And what do 1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:03.080 we build in it? To absence? I will receive everything 1:05:03.160 --> 1:05:07.360 be said about, you know, our ancestors, our forefathers, our 1:05:07.400 --> 1:05:10.120 own mothers and fathers, and all of the investment they've 1:05:10.160 --> 1:05:12.280 made into this country, whether on a micro level or 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:16.680 on a macro level, those contributions all matter. But I 1:05:16.720 --> 1:05:20.280 do think it's nation building time for us. I really do. 1:05:20.400 --> 1:05:23.160 And I'll use this to transition in the calls to action. 1:05:24.920 --> 1:05:27.440 I want you all to really think about where we are. 1:05:28.280 --> 1:05:31.360 I want you to think about what their floor is, 1:05:31.600 --> 1:05:34.680 because their floor is not drawing your voice out of 1:05:34.680 --> 1:05:38.440 a congressional district. They haven't gotten the state legislative districts yet, 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:42.360 but that's coming. Their floor is not expelling your representatives 1:05:42.400 --> 1:05:46.280 that you voted for from the House or the Senate 1:05:46.600 --> 1:05:49.600 or removing them off of committees. Their floor is not 1:05:51.800 --> 1:05:55.360 taking away affirmative action. Their floor is not gutting the 1:05:55.440 --> 1:05:58.080 Voting Rights Act, killing it completely. Their floor is not 1:05:58.560 --> 1:06:01.880 removing access to health care. Their floor is not cutting 1:06:01.880 --> 1:06:06.480 SNAP benefits by which Alabamaans right now have lost Snap 1:06:06.520 --> 1:06:09.080 benefits to the tune of hundreds of thousands of people, 1:06:09.160 --> 1:06:12.320 or at least one hundred thousand people. What is their 1:06:12.360 --> 1:06:16.320 floor If their floor is not just starving us, it's 1:06:16.360 --> 1:06:19.680 not just killing us, it's not just silencing us. What 1:06:20.000 --> 1:06:22.400 is their floor? And once we figure out what the 1:06:22.400 --> 1:06:25.920 floor is, we know where our fight begins, what the 1:06:25.960 --> 1:06:29.000 real resistance efforts are, what the real advocacy efforts are, 1:06:29.040 --> 1:06:31.920 what our demands are, what our Freedom Party looks like, 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:36.240 and then we can talk about the mountaintop. At the 1:06:36.320 --> 1:06:38.760 end of the speech that Charles Ogletree gave to us 1:06:38.760 --> 1:06:42.120 in two thousand and four, he says, the reason we 1:06:42.240 --> 1:06:48.160 sing swing Low, Sweet Chariot is because our people are 1:06:48.160 --> 1:06:51.240 not in the mountains. What does it take for us 1:06:51.280 --> 1:06:53.840 to climb the mountain and get to the top. That's 1:06:53.880 --> 1:06:55.600 my question for you on I'm gonna stop here because 1:06:55.600 --> 1:06:57.400 I'm gonna cry. I'm nine suposed to go first. It's 1:06:57.400 --> 1:06:58.600 my week. I'm sorry, guys, but. 1:06:58.800 --> 1:07:01.040 Awful for Andrew. 1:07:02.000 --> 1:07:04.560 No. I mean I think that we need to revisit 1:07:04.600 --> 1:07:08.200 and lean on faith. I think we need to lean 1:07:08.280 --> 1:07:11.200 on our history. I think we need to lean on 1:07:11.240 --> 1:07:13.360 our strength, and at the end of the day, I 1:07:13.360 --> 1:07:15.360 think we need to lean on each other. Because one 1:07:15.360 --> 1:07:17.760 of the things that I recognize about this moment is, 1:07:18.840 --> 1:07:21.040 you know, I had a long week this week too, 1:07:21.080 --> 1:07:23.000 Lord at Mercy. I've been in the eye of the 1:07:23.320 --> 1:07:25.640 bull's eye all we long. But I realized that the 1:07:25.680 --> 1:07:29.120 people who reach out to you, the people that pray 1:07:29.200 --> 1:07:31.720 for you, the people that you see that give you 1:07:31.760 --> 1:07:34.439 the nod or the you know you keep going, those 1:07:34.440 --> 1:07:36.200 are the people that are going to help us get 1:07:36.240 --> 1:07:39.400 to that parobial mountaintop. And so lean on your brother 1:07:39.440 --> 1:07:41.720 and sister, lean on your faith, lean on our history. 1:07:42.680 --> 1:07:46.120 Know that we've been here before, We've been in this 1:07:46.200 --> 1:07:50.919 nay here before, and we emerged victorious. I truly believe 1:07:50.960 --> 1:07:52.040 we'll find that victory again. 1:07:52.960 --> 1:07:55.920 I'm a triple down on this theme. I think we're 1:07:55.960 --> 1:08:03.240 in is the salvation. What will carry us through, is 1:08:03.400 --> 1:08:05.919 what has always carried us through, and it is each other. 1:08:06.040 --> 1:08:10.120 I mean, I'm never going to forget Minneapolis as a 1:08:11.120 --> 1:08:16.519 turning point in the crucible. It is terrible that lives 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:25.240 had to be laid down, but we prevailed in what 1:08:25.439 --> 1:08:30.559 felt like the darkest of night. And look what may 1:08:30.600 --> 1:08:33.360 have been staved off for a lot of other places, 1:08:33.400 --> 1:08:35.639 and a lot of other black places, frankly, that were 1:08:35.640 --> 1:08:38.920 listed and targeted as the up next. So I do 1:08:40.000 --> 1:08:43.160 believe that righteous people will prevail. The other thing is 1:08:43.160 --> 1:08:49.519 is we have been here before, but also we haven't 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:56.000 each Each battles may look very similar, even what is 1:08:56.040 --> 1:09:00.120 that debate? What is that argument? Looks very similar sometimes, 1:09:02.040 --> 1:09:04.839 but God had to take us to the first learning 1:09:05.680 --> 1:09:08.160 so that we could spot more clearly what needed to 1:09:08.240 --> 1:09:12.559 change the next learning time around. And we wouldn't have 1:09:12.600 --> 1:09:15.559 known the thing that needed to be changed the second 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:18.040 time around or the third time around if it weren't 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:21.760 for the time that preceded the battle that you're in 1:09:21.840 --> 1:09:25.880 right now. So they are similar. For sure, we have 1:09:25.960 --> 1:09:29.440 the grit and we know that we got the composition 1:09:30.920 --> 1:09:35.040 to bear what will be required. But each one of 1:09:35.080 --> 1:09:38.600 these lessons is a different lesson. Each one of the battles, 1:09:38.960 --> 1:09:41.640 the derivative of it, there is what will result is 1:09:41.680 --> 1:09:46.080 going to be another thing, another notch, and then we'll 1:09:46.080 --> 1:09:50.519 find ourselves back in war and it will look similar. 1:09:50.600 --> 1:09:53.559 But the thing we we'll be fighting for then will 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:55.960 be the next rung that takes us higher. It'll be 1:09:56.000 --> 1:09:58.960 the next thing that takes us higher. I say that 1:09:59.040 --> 1:10:01.559 to say I don't want us to be disillusion that 1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:06.760 we're always fighting the same fight. It isn't always the 1:10:06.800 --> 1:10:11.919 same fight is a familiar fight and a familiar battery 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:14.599 of things that come at us. But the body and 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:19.000 the soul and the spirit needs that familiarity. But the 1:10:19.040 --> 1:10:21.839 fight is actually going to be different because we're trying 1:10:21.880 --> 1:10:25.400 to climb a new rung. We're trying to move to 1:10:25.479 --> 1:10:28.559 a new level, and so we have to stay in 1:10:28.600 --> 1:10:31.479 the fight. We have to stay in the game. I'm 1:10:31.520 --> 1:10:34.960 not beyond the fact that systems have to change, some 1:10:35.080 --> 1:10:38.800 need to be leveled. When we win back administrations, we 1:10:38.880 --> 1:10:42.320 must be more strategic in our demands. You showing up 1:10:42.360 --> 1:10:45.479 at my church is never enough, but it absolutely will 1:10:45.520 --> 1:10:51.880 not suffice. So we can do this. We will do this, 1:10:52.160 --> 1:10:54.040 and the thing that will sustain us will be what 1:10:54.160 --> 1:10:57.040 always has and it's been us and the God in 1:10:57.160 --> 1:11:05.000 us that has allowed us to exist and persist through 1:11:05.040 --> 1:11:05.679 the next battle. 1:11:06.760 --> 1:11:09.840 Well, thanks, brothers. I always appreciate your calls to action. 1:11:10.040 --> 1:11:12.880 Andrew and McCrary, I have one more. Don't be mad, 1:11:13.520 --> 1:11:15.240 but it's so important, you know what. We are in 1:11:15.280 --> 1:11:17.639 the middle of the fight of our lives with this 1:11:17.680 --> 1:11:21.080 redistricting battle, and that is why we're going to Montgomery 1:11:21.200 --> 1:11:26.600 this weekend. Of course, Alabama has its primary elections on Tuesday, 1:11:26.960 --> 1:11:29.759 but this Saturday, for all roads lead to the South, 1:11:29.800 --> 1:11:33.120 we are joining each other, lockstep arm in arm to 1:11:33.240 --> 1:11:35.160 say not on our watch. 1:11:35.200 --> 1:11:36.960 We're going to have a rally and cry. This is 1:11:37.000 --> 1:11:37.800 the first of many. 1:11:37.880 --> 1:11:42.960 On Saturday, at one pm Central in Montgomery, Alabama, was saying, hey, 1:11:43.080 --> 1:11:46.080 we're standing together. We're standing united. We will fight back. 1:11:46.120 --> 1:11:48.760 We might be tired, but together we are mighty, and 1:11:48.800 --> 1:11:52.639 we will ensure that you respect our voices and our votes. 1:11:53.320 --> 1:11:57.679 Right now, the governor's calling for a special election in August. 1:11:57.880 --> 1:12:00.000 You will see the names of Terry Sewell and Shamari 1:12:00.040 --> 1:12:03.320 figures on the ballots in Alabama. You will see Cleo 1:12:03.400 --> 1:12:06.280 Phil's and Troy Carter's names on the ballot in Louisiana. 1:12:06.320 --> 1:12:07.720 That's election day in Louisiana. 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:10.400 We want to make sure that they understand that our 1:12:10.439 --> 1:12:12.599 votes are nothing to play with. We don't just call 1:12:12.680 --> 1:12:16.120 another election. We're calling for our representatives to be heard 1:12:16.400 --> 1:12:19.240 and to be seated, for the Supreme Court to not 1:12:19.400 --> 1:12:22.040 undermine the Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five, and 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:24.960 that is exactly what they've done in the last few days. 1:12:25.000 --> 1:12:26.240 But we are all coming together. 1:12:26.640 --> 1:12:32.040 Hears some powerful voices on that stage this Saturday in Montgomery, Alabama, 1:12:32.320 --> 1:12:34.920 and you will also be in the space with some 1:12:35.040 --> 1:12:38.040 powerful advocates on the ground, and so we want you 1:12:38.080 --> 1:12:40.640 to come organized together. The most important thing we can 1:12:40.680 --> 1:12:43.200 say to each other in this hour is you are 1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:45.640 not alone. So turn to your neighbor, tell them to 1:12:45.640 --> 1:12:47.600 write on down with you to Montgomery if you're not 1:12:47.640 --> 1:12:51.560 in Alabama, and make sure that you come get refueled 1:12:51.600 --> 1:12:54.040 for the fight. The fight continues, and I can't wait 1:12:54.080 --> 1:12:56.080 to see you all there in Montgomery this weekend. 1:12:56.200 --> 1:12:57.000 Thank you so much. 1:12:57.680 --> 1:13:00.600 I'm going to ask y'all for a personal call to 1:13:00.600 --> 1:13:03.679 action for our show. I really want us to consider 1:13:04.479 --> 1:13:07.680 a nation on fire like town Hall series, because I 1:13:07.720 --> 1:13:10.680 think that it gives us an opportunity to build not 1:13:10.800 --> 1:13:14.759 just with our listeners, but other community members the vision 1:13:15.160 --> 1:13:19.120 and the reimagining that we deserve to your point, Andrew, 1:13:19.160 --> 1:13:21.519 so I hope that we'll consider that, especially in this 1:13:21.600 --> 1:13:22.679 hour that run right now. 1:13:23.080 --> 1:13:25.280 The only way that I'll do it is if we 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:28.599 make sure that we're not in I want to go. 1:13:28.720 --> 1:13:30.360 I want to go out where the people at. I 1:13:30.360 --> 1:13:32.960 don't want to be in the city of Atlanta, per se. 1:13:33.040 --> 1:13:35.200 I want to be in making you know, I don't 1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:38.040 want to be in Miami. I want to be I 1:13:38.080 --> 1:13:41.719 don't know, somewhere else that the people necessarily don't always 1:13:41.720 --> 1:13:43.960 get to touch. So let's keep that in mind as 1:13:44.000 --> 1:13:46.160 we as we plan that. But I'm down. I want 1:13:46.200 --> 1:13:47.040 to go where the people are. 1:13:47.280 --> 1:13:49.760 I Appreci'll remind you when we come to it and 1:13:49.840 --> 1:13:52.080 you complain about you can't fly into and can't get 1:13:52.120 --> 1:13:52.799 in and out. 1:13:52.640 --> 1:13:53.479 Of that's wrong. 1:13:53.600 --> 1:13:56.200 Remind you, thank you we can fly in and out of. 1:13:56.479 --> 1:13:58.680 Andrew, thank you for contextualizing. 1:13:59.200 --> 1:14:02.400 Don't worry about it whatever, just make sure we can. 1:14:02.520 --> 1:14:06.160 Just I'm glad you can textualize his demands with practicality, 1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:09.680 but I do. 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