Speaker 1: On today's episode of Command Center Podcast, jayde and Daniels
Speaker 1: Quarterback one surprise, Yeah, and then we do a Miami
Speaker 1: review and a New England preview, and then Fred versus
Speaker 1: a gorilla who wins it all.
Speaker 2: Starts right now. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot and Santana mos. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I got something I've been wanting to ask you for
Speaker 1: a while.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: You guys like gorillas, you guys in on gorillas?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, really yeah, this is a.
Speaker 1: Good question for you. Okay, So I started this thought experiment.
Speaker 1: I asked b Mitch this over the weekend, and it
Speaker 1: was B Mitch's birthday, so you can imagine how his
Speaker 1: answer went.
Speaker 2: And my son birthday. Yeah, oh really yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: A happy birthday to your son.
Speaker 2: Yesterday with bothday birthday you're which.
Speaker 1: One you're you're ninth grader or yeah, my ninth grader.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Fred's son and Mitch. So basically, in
Speaker 1: this room, there is a wild gorilla. We are in
Speaker 1: this room, or there's people in this room.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You cannot use any weapons, and you are like kind
Speaker 1: of like just like not naked, but like you don't
Speaker 1: have anything with you, you know, shoelaces, no, nothing, right, right?
Speaker 1: How many people making it out of it would it
Speaker 1: take to defeat the gorilla?
Speaker 4: Well, a gorilla literally has what five times the scrint
Speaker 4: of it ten times.
Speaker 2: To scrint of a human being.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ten times to scrint.
Speaker 4: So I would say it'll take one person each other,
Speaker 4: five of us.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 4: Five, just five, because I'm going one person each limb okay,
Speaker 4: and I'm going with the eliminator that's the last person.
Speaker 1: Who's are they? All? You? Are?
Speaker 2: They?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Who who you got?
Speaker 1: Who's on your.
Speaker 2: Te I'm gonna take be Mitching there with me.
Speaker 1: Dude, B Mitch, I'm telling you. B Mitch was was
Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about himself and he was like, I
Speaker 1: will beat the gorilla and genuinely being serious.
Speaker 4: Yes, take be Mitching there. I'll take London in there
Speaker 4: with me. Also, Yeah, I take Bluefoot in there. Maybe
Speaker 4: they could talk hen what may make that they they
Speaker 4: can we can talk this out. We don't have to
Speaker 4: do no violence, right, So I'm gonna take a couple of.
Speaker 2: Guys in there with Strint, all right.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say the same thing about you. I'm
Speaker 5: taking you trying to talk and they can lay on.
Speaker 4: But the gorilla gonna mess us up because unlike us,
Speaker 4: he don't got no restraint.
Speaker 2: I control, that's what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you said, the five people.
Speaker 5: Were not we're not defeating that gorilla, man, So the
Speaker 5: best thing to do is to do something with them.
Speaker 2: You're trying to you trying to break a deal. We
Speaker 2: did that.
Speaker 5: You want him one of a gun because you ain't
Speaker 5: fighting that gorilla and you ain't trying to get it
Speaker 5: out of there. I mean, you know how some people
Speaker 5: say go out without it. I mean, I ain't going
Speaker 5: out without a fight. Yeah, you better trying to.
Speaker 4: The question is at what point does the gorilla get tired?
Speaker 4: Because we gonna get tired. What point was he said?
Speaker 4: You know what I need?
Speaker 5: You're tired and one hit, one hit, Yeah you're out.
Speaker 2: O one time is a rap.
Speaker 1: I think about this probably more than I should. And
Speaker 1: like the first person that gets absolutely smoked by that gorilla,
Speaker 1: like you could have. You could have one hundred people
Speaker 1: in here and they're be like, nah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, well, you know, hippo hippo bottom is is more
Speaker 2: dangerous than right.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying there's no there's no physical way for
Speaker 1: us to kill a hippo bottamus.
Speaker 2: Well, hippo bottom is kills more people per year.
Speaker 1: I'm aware of most. I'm aware of that. But how
Speaker 1: but we couldn't at least with a gorilla. There's a conversation,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we could choke it out. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like but they got no.
Speaker 4: Can you sit at home thinking about choking the gorilla out?
Speaker 4: Like all right, let me ask you this, what wrestley
Speaker 4: move are you going to?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: I need to stabilize this gorilla.
Speaker 4: What moves sounds like the hitlot step on his toe?
Speaker 1: I just think this may I think about this too
Speaker 1: also because I remember one time I tried to break
Speaker 1: up a fight between Trent and a defensive tackle and
Speaker 1: Trent calls himself the silver back, make silver back on
Speaker 1: his back? Yeah, And I used, I'm a pretty strong guy,
Speaker 1: Like I work out a lot, I'm pretty strong without
Speaker 1: a s yeah, and it's it's not great, but like
Speaker 1: I'm overcoming bad genetic and and I tried to get
Speaker 1: rapping around the waist and like pull him back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: big Trent, And you would have thought that I wasn't
Speaker 1: even there, and I weighed two hundred and seventy pounds,
Speaker 1: I'm six five, and I could not get him disengage
Speaker 1: the person.
Speaker 2: So when I think.
Speaker 1: About someone who's ten times stronger than Trent, yeah, like
Speaker 1: there is no move. There's no move that I think a.
Speaker 2: Great thing about it.
Speaker 4: I'm the idiot to go try him first, So I
Speaker 4: get tossed over there.
Speaker 2: So once y'all see me get tossed against the wall,
Speaker 2: you're gonna try it first? What would you like? You're
Speaker 2: not just I'm just gonna go and get it over with.
Speaker 2: Like at one point, you know, if we say we
Speaker 2: hit again.
Speaker 5: So when the gorilla killed him from that, what's that,
Speaker 5: I'll lay next to him, put his blood on me.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey we're going down.
Speaker 1: But but that's an interesting thing because like what if
Speaker 1: I went over and like you got a broken bone,
Speaker 1: I just took your bone out and then I could
Speaker 1: stab the gorilla. So you really would save us, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So like you going first would
Speaker 1: save and well, and we'll have a really nice memorial
Speaker 1: for you. We'll be like man.
Speaker 2: Eat everything he could to save us, and we got
Speaker 2: your bones hanging out.
Speaker 4: People don't think about the thing. But if you was
Speaker 4: in the jungle, you have to take on these animals.
Speaker 1: And but the thing is that I think this is
Speaker 1: why I like the thought experiment and leave a comment
Speaker 1: how many people would have take the defeat gorilla in
Speaker 1: a room.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take my chances of freezing and getting knocked
Speaker 5: out and then trying.
Speaker 2: To fight and get knocked out. But think about it.
Speaker 1: If I if I said here's here's a knife, everyone
Speaker 1: gets a knife.
Speaker 2: Yeah we can we can stop doable? Yeah, spear way doable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even if I gave you a plate like a
Speaker 1: metal plate from the weight room, doable.
Speaker 2: Give me a number two pencil doable?
Speaker 1: This guy like my guy over here. But yeah, So
Speaker 1: if you want to leave an email about how many
Speaker 1: people would take the defeated gorilla in a small room,
Speaker 1: go to that hawk outside at gmail dot com and
Speaker 1: leave an email, or you can leave a comment here.
Speaker 4: If they hawk ca him down, I would grab his
Speaker 4: foot with the hawk and how could be outside?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love that. That's a good thought experiment.
Speaker 2: It is not I'm gonna go home and think about
Speaker 2: fighting the gorilla myself.
Speaker 1: Tanna had the best answers, though he's hiding under the
Speaker 1: curtain back there.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not thinking about it because I ain't even.
Speaker 2: It would just chance.
Speaker 1: Just so much pain, just so much pain, says I.
Speaker 4: Can see us just having him like one of them,
Speaker 4: each one leg each and and you got him in
Speaker 4: the head locking.
Speaker 1: You ever wrestled like a bunch of you got a
Speaker 1: lot of kids, You ever wrestled like a bunch of
Speaker 1: five year olds, and you're just like, that's how the
Speaker 1: girl would be with us.
Speaker 2: So don't worry about it.
Speaker 3: Knock him dance all right.
Speaker 1: In addition to gorilla conversations, we also talked about football,
Speaker 1: we also have the hail Tails podcast, which is talking
Speaker 1: more Carlisle stories carl Isle, Carlyle or car Isle, depending
Speaker 1: on where you're from, And we have a special appearance
Speaker 1: from one Fred Smoot.
Speaker 2: I go by Frederick Man, Frederick Smoot, Thank you, Fred.
Speaker 1: What did you talk about on this show?
Speaker 4: I talked about my trials and tribulations in Carlile.
Speaker 2: I talked about my rookie season.
Speaker 4: When I got there, I held out yees, so I
Speaker 4: held out three days.
Speaker 1: Is this where they put all your stuff outside?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: No, I held out for more money before I reported
Speaker 4: the camp.
Speaker 2: Good move. Yeah, I wanted to be paid like a
Speaker 2: first round and like I was.
Speaker 1: And they paid you.
Speaker 2: So yeah they did.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big time.
Speaker 4: And when I got there there first day, it was
Speaker 4: like downhill from the town I got.
Speaker 2: They put me in middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah, you told this story before. This is one
Speaker 1: of the c I would have probably quit if they
Speaker 1: would have been like, Logan, go play even if I
Speaker 1: go play middle linebacker at Tenna. If they said, hey, Tanner,
Speaker 1: go play middle linebacker on goal line. Yeah, having seen
Speaker 1: goal line period.
Speaker 5: And then having Stephen Davis as a tailbag, I've been
Speaker 5: thrusting a similar situation. But I was in the Little League,
Speaker 5: ok And I was playing one twenties one hundred. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: so I was trying to make.
Speaker 3: The team and one day, like I was on another team.
Speaker 5: And my dad didn't want me to. They gave me
Speaker 5: a spot on that team when I was sick. So
Speaker 5: I say, my dad told me I couldn't play that
Speaker 5: yet because I didn't work.
Speaker 3: For my spot.
Speaker 5: So I rode my bikes and runs on team working
Speaker 5: out or playing and practicing, and I'm like, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: try for this team since he is, he said, I
Speaker 5: gotta earn my spot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was one hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 2: I'm only ninety.
Speaker 5: So they gave me the ball running back like three
Speaker 5: times and I'm like coach receive and they were smacking
Speaker 5: me like the third time. I just like, man, I'm outrunning.
Speaker 5: Everybody hit the sideline, give them, give them uniform and
Speaker 5: made the team. So thinking about that and you having
Speaker 5: to play lineback up the cone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they just they just jammed it into me
Speaker 4: to play out to play out to play.
Speaker 1: How many playschef do you remember?
Speaker 2: Had like five plays consecutively.
Speaker 4: And I remember me going to sleep that night that
Speaker 4: first night of training campt completion.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I got the wrong job, Like
Speaker 2: I should.
Speaker 4: Have been a layer, maybe an actor, I don't know,
Speaker 4: maybe a hand model.
Speaker 2: So commercially, I don't know, Like I.
Speaker 6: Really thought in my head like she had a couple
Speaker 6: of million dollars to go with it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, No, that make me say you better
Speaker 4: stay in here, baby.
Speaker 1: So that's what you the story you're told on the I.
Speaker 2: Told this story, but I told a lot of more story.
Speaker 2: I told how my my rookie hazing happened, all.
Speaker 4: The stuff I had to go through there. Talked about
Speaker 4: the ice cream, the famous ice cream shop.
Speaker 2: I talked about how you could just sniff in the
Speaker 2: air and you could smell.
Speaker 4: Hershey, Pennsylvania, all over the state of Pennsylvania, just chocolate everywhere.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't what I mean. So obviously, if you
Speaker 1: want to hear more Carls stories from that era, that
Speaker 1: kind of golden era of the Washington Commanders, are you
Speaker 1: part of the Golden Area? Uh no, No, that's what
Speaker 1: I thought. I thought, you're you're gonna buy it.
Speaker 4: But at the time FDIX was still rocking. Yeah, everything
Speaker 4: was still Yeah, we were still in place. Now, we
Speaker 4: still we had hope. I hope was still there. And
Speaker 4: so that's always a great show. Obviously, Hannah and Jason
Speaker 4: does a great job on that show. And so make
Speaker 4: sure you check it out if you're a fan of
Speaker 4: this team and this team's history, it's a must listen.
Speaker 4: All right, But now we're setting kind of recent history,
Speaker 4: no current history. Yeah, current it's not even history.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Can it be current history?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it can't be current history. Dude, Look at you
Speaker 1: with the vokeb over there knuckles. Yeah, all right, current events.
Speaker 1: And we just had a game against the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: in the preseason. We lost, and I'm pretty bummed about it. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm gonna say it's a preseason game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I mean, we talked about this last time.
Speaker 1: Does it matter? I know a lot of fans get
Speaker 1: worked up about it. Like it's crazy to me that
Speaker 1: fans still ask me, like, does it matter? It's too
Speaker 1: bad we lost that game? Like this is this is
Speaker 1: for something different, And I feel like fans don't have
Speaker 1: don't really get that sometimes.
Speaker 4: First of all, it's a pillow fight preseason, not played,
Speaker 4: not schemed, not the best players on the field. No
Speaker 4: one cares who wins the game. The the end game
Speaker 4: of this is to get out of there healthy and
Speaker 4: to get some good work. Other than that, and I
Speaker 4: much remind y'all, we went three and oh last year
Speaker 4: in the preseason.
Speaker 2: You know how that turned out?
Speaker 1: How to turn out? And I'm just kidding, No, I.
Speaker 3: Feel the same.
Speaker 5: I think one of the things about it, I think
Speaker 5: as players, we wanted to win in a sense, just
Speaker 5: to have that you know what I mean that you
Speaker 5: know how that feels when you have to practice the
Speaker 5: next week or the next day and just having that
Speaker 5: l hanging over you. But not only for yourself. You
Speaker 5: did it, you wanted to do it for those guys
Speaker 5: who was trying to make the squad. Yeah, those guys
Speaker 5: had now because getting that win will give them a
Speaker 5: better chance to say, well, at least this guy. Something
Speaker 5: had to be done well for those guys to go
Speaker 5: out there and get the victory. So that's the only
Speaker 5: time we really worried about it, because you want the
Speaker 5: team to have that kind of you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: that energy from a win. But when it comes down
Speaker 5: to just greating things and how you look at it
Speaker 5: from the I guess the big picture standpoint, Who cares?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: You know, we're just trying to get ready. It's a
Speaker 5: glorified practice if you ask.
Speaker 3: Me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's practice with people bingo is having a game experience
Speaker 5: at practice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's one hundred percent right. I
Speaker 1: couldn't have said it better myself, Like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it has a purpose. And so in the same way
Speaker 1: you practice with a purpose, you practice to see how
Speaker 1: your new two minute looks. You practice to see how
Speaker 1: your goal line looks. You're practicing that, but you're practicing
Speaker 1: it for the coaches. So the coach has to call plays.
Speaker 1: We have to work on subs, we have to work
Speaker 1: on the communication from the sideline. Those are all things
Speaker 1: we need to work on. But like Fred said, it's
Speaker 1: a huge piece of evaluation. Like, I went back and
Speaker 1: watched a lot of football because I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: get a feel for all the individual players, you know,
Speaker 1: So I'm watching every position and there are guys that
Speaker 1: you've never heard of on this roster that are playing
Speaker 1: fifty snaps. Yeah, and they will not be playing football
Speaker 1: no offense to that person in the regular season, right.
Speaker 1: So truth, it's an evaluation tool. It's a kind of
Speaker 1: a dress rehearsal for some stuff. So I do think
Speaker 1: like and but I will say this though, I was
Speaker 1: actually really impressed with some of the stuff that Miami
Speaker 1: did offensively, some of the stuff we did, some of
Speaker 1: the stuff we did defensively, and some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that that the Cliff kind of had in and kind
Speaker 1: of how helped Jade. Now we'll talk about that here
Speaker 1: in a second. But one of the things I want
Speaker 1: to ask you guys, and I guess we'll start with
Speaker 1: thread because it's a defensive question. Miami in the joint
Speaker 1: practice and Miami in the preseason had a lot of
Speaker 1: I don't want to say a lot of offense in
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's misleading, but they had a
Speaker 1: lot of motions and shifts and kind of window dressing.
Speaker 1: How is taking care of that in the preseason game?
Speaker 4: It's easy, actually because we're playing so green and our
Speaker 4: calls are so blah, meaning cover two, you motion, we
Speaker 4: still in cover two, Cover three, you motion, were still
Speaker 4: in cover three.
Speaker 2: Like it's fine.
Speaker 1: They didn't, but they didn't game plan. So I felt
Speaker 1: like there was a couple of times watching it back
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, that's a bust. We didn't get
Speaker 1: that communicated or we didn't handle that correct.
Speaker 2: Because it ain't that ain't in that playbook. Yet we ain't.
Speaker 4: And that's why I say, coach won't to see play
Speaker 4: us in some bad positions. I like to see how
Speaker 4: they work theyself out. That was a perfect thing to
Speaker 4: go against the Miami team. There's gonna motion, not every
Speaker 4: other play. Every play somebody's gonna be in motion. So
Speaker 4: he wanted to see with them stand up to that play.
Speaker 4: Discipline play, You'll reach your keys, understand what's going on.
Speaker 2: And don't get food with that window dressing. That's all
Speaker 2: it is is window dressing.
Speaker 4: So at the point, I think because the defensive coordinator
Speaker 4: was calling such a blocking it hilped the amount against
Speaker 4: the motion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna as because you've played against I'm
Speaker 1: sure defenses. Guy, I was with you at the time
Speaker 1: where you're in like the first second preseason game and
Speaker 1: someone brings like zero pressure. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And like, can you speak to like how that just
Speaker 1: throws a wrench because you haven't prepped it. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3: It throws a wrench.
Speaker 5: And I think it also shows the coaches you know
Speaker 5: who you have at quarterback. I think that's one of
Speaker 5: the things that I took from it, when you're watching
Speaker 5: yourself in those situations offensively, knowing that all we only
Speaker 5: have a hand for the plays that we're gonna run
Speaker 5: or formations that we're gonna show. And then the team
Speaker 5: you saw a corner blitz and I'm sitting there talking
Speaker 5: about cat Yeah, and we like, but but see seeing
Speaker 5: what the quarterback does with that opportunity will tell you
Speaker 5: where we're at. But offensively, we're not expecting us to
Speaker 5: really do nothing, you know, because you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but when I'm watching and getting back to what you're
Speaker 5: talking about, watching Miami do what they did, it always
Speaker 5: reminded me of twenty ten and those years we had
Speaker 5: we had Sean, I mean, Kyle call and Sean because.
Speaker 3: That's what we did.
Speaker 5: We ran what were gonna run and rather you was.
Speaker 5: It helped us offensively just to be ready come week one.
Speaker 5: We weren't trying to go out there and run the
Speaker 5: whole playbook, but we had a set of plays that
Speaker 5: we want to be efficient enough on to say that
Speaker 5: we won. We're going to see this, We're going to
Speaker 5: probably you know, go back you know through these do
Speaker 5: these same plays. So I was kind of pleased to
Speaker 5: see our defenses to be kind of simple and boring and.
Speaker 2: Still with it.
Speaker 5: You saw a couple of guys here and there open
Speaker 5: you know, and those base coverages, but the same titles.
Speaker 5: Guys flew around and they was it was every man
Speaker 5: to the ball, you know what I mean, like they
Speaker 5: should be.
Speaker 1: And that's why you're the Mantana because that's the one
Speaker 1: thing that I took away too, is like, you know,
Speaker 1: I watched a ton of film and every person is
Speaker 1: playing with that energy the juice on that defensive side
Speaker 1: of the football, and it's crazy to watch because like
Speaker 1: just how that covers stuff.
Speaker 2: Up for you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, All this, dude's open, but
Speaker 1: we are hauling to the ball.
Speaker 2: And we gonna get there. We're gonna get there by
Speaker 2: them like this.
Speaker 4: What great defenses are organized chaos its finest and the
Speaker 4: one thing about defense and a good defense, we got
Speaker 4: each other back.
Speaker 2: So if you file short, I feel in the gap
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like that's a really interesting like
Speaker 1: comparison to what Cliff has in right now because like Miami,
Speaker 1: it was like every play there's a motion, we're trying
Speaker 1: to get angles, we're trying like you could tell they
Speaker 1: let me just say, that's right, not that they don't
Speaker 1: have their whole offense end, but they game planned for us.
Speaker 4: No, No, you can tell that everybody in their offense been
Speaker 4: there in that offense for years. They're not storing from
Speaker 4: zero like us, from scratch, like they're just and to
Speaker 4: what they already. Have they got the same quarterback into
Speaker 4: same running backs, same wide received they just add to
Speaker 4: a playbook where we stow it in the playbook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the a lot of ringles. And I feel like
Speaker 1: with Cliff it was very simple is the wrong word,
Speaker 1: because there was an element of complexity in there. But
Speaker 1: they're going hurry up, they're finding good matchups. And I
Speaker 1: felt like just watching it that after watching practice too,
Speaker 1: that he's playing something close to the vest. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I saw hitches from the outside.
Speaker 2: I saw slip screen.
Speaker 5: I mean, if that wasn't vanilla, I don't know what
Speaker 5: it was, you know what I mean? I mean I
Speaker 5: was watching them complete passes with the basic one on
Speaker 5: one you know, first day of pre season or first
Speaker 5: day of camp.
Speaker 3: You know a route, route tree, you know.
Speaker 1: Which, which I think is great because it speaks to
Speaker 1: I think a couple of things. One Jade Daniels accuracy
Speaker 1: that just jumped out to me when I was watching it,
Speaker 1: like his ability like to for you to run a
Speaker 1: hitch good coverage and then the timing and the ball placement,
Speaker 1: like there's no coverage for a perfect throw. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I love to see that and Also, I just think
Speaker 1: the other thing that Cliff did there, which was great,
Speaker 1: As you said, Danna were an easy kind of formations,
Speaker 1: but he was able to identify pressures, identify coverages, and
Speaker 1: identify matchups.
Speaker 2: And they had a lot to do with that hurry up.
Speaker 2: Like the one thing about.
Speaker 4: Hurry up, man, give me how it transitions, and it
Speaker 4: makes us say play cover too, And once he sees that,
Speaker 4: once Jaydon sees that his reads are cleaner, and if
Speaker 4: you speed the game up, we're always gonna be able
Speaker 4: to force to play something easy, something fast, something smart.
Speaker 2: But guess who else knows we're in that. That quarterback
Speaker 2: knows that we're in that, and they're just Brady did
Speaker 2: this at a high level.
Speaker 4: He would literally force us, they'll go hurry up, force
Speaker 4: us to play cover two or cover for whatever your cover,
Speaker 4: whatever your hurry up check is. And he would throw
Speaker 4: it to the same player five times and real like
Speaker 4: that's how disciplined he was. And they go to week spot.
Speaker 4: I ain't going nowhere, And that's what Jane's gonna have
Speaker 4: that clear reed.
Speaker 5: Or Wes welcome you to sleep like over and over
Speaker 5: here for that dude, get ten catchers in the same drive, Like, bro,
Speaker 5: we ain't stopping that play.
Speaker 2: V unbranch you to deal, all right. So yeah, that's
Speaker 2: what hurry Up does.
Speaker 1: That's what uh Barron Lovewood said about him, is he's
Speaker 1: okay being boring. Yeah, he's okay, just doing the right thing.
Speaker 5: It was the same way those guys, I mean, Regine
Speaker 5: was still on the outside of the numbers and just
Speaker 5: sit there. Yeah, and they knew the players because he
Speaker 5: calling numbers and they knew, okay, number five, I gotta
Speaker 5: do this, all right, he called them red red, I
Speaker 5: gotta do this. So when you get to that part
Speaker 5: of your game, that's when you like, I mean you
Speaker 5: clicking you're the master. Yeah, you're the master what you
Speaker 5: got offensively, But just to see what we was doing
Speaker 5: preseason wise, man, And because one of the things that
Speaker 5: you take from watching those guys perform, whether they get
Speaker 5: a win, a little a w or l just seeing,
Speaker 5: like I said before, the command of the quarterback with
Speaker 5: his huddle with his guys and how efficient they are
Speaker 5: in each play. You know what I mean, You didn't sell.
Speaker 5: You really saw ball on the ground. You saw guys
Speaker 5: running precise route, you saw guys catching the ball. You
Speaker 5: saw guys blocking. Everybody was doing their jobs. So when
Speaker 5: I'm watching that and it's a preseason, this is what
Speaker 5: I want to see. This is a win for me
Speaker 5: offensively for what I want to see far as production
Speaker 5: wise from my team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally totally agree with that. I think the
Speaker 1: other thing I wanted to point out too, is just
Speaker 1: how Cliff called the game. You mentioned the screens, you
Speaker 1: mentioned the runs. They had a couple of second and longs.
Speaker 1: He didn't try to go for a big chunk play,
Speaker 1: gets into a third and five, third and four, third
Speaker 1: and six, much more manageable, and they just did a
Speaker 1: great job being efficient even though it was kind of basic.
Speaker 1: And another thing that I wanted to kind of ask
Speaker 1: about is in the joint practice, Jayden in the red
Speaker 1: zone was like five for five touchdowns, you know, and
Speaker 1: obviously in the game it's you know, it's four field
Speaker 1: goals or whatever it ends up being, right, So which
Speaker 1: is more important and why do you think they were
Speaker 1: more efficient in the joint practice?
Speaker 4: Joint practice more important? Because joint practice they was called
Speaker 4: in plays. They was scheming each other, they was attacking
Speaker 4: each other, They was running stuff that they're going to
Speaker 4: run in October, they was running stuff that's gonna be
Speaker 4: ran in December. It was ones against ones. It was
Speaker 4: your peak talent against my peak talent. We gonna do
Speaker 4: situational that tears me.
Speaker 2: A lot if him going five for five.
Speaker 4: In those situations tell me not only is he processing quick,
Speaker 4: he's learning to have too complete plays.
Speaker 2: In a short window.
Speaker 4: I love checking people in the red zone because your
Speaker 4: speed don't.
Speaker 2: Matter no more, nothing matters.
Speaker 4: But can you make a play in the tenth of
Speaker 4: a second that I cannot make?
Speaker 2: So that means micro managing him in that situation.
Speaker 4: That's to me. Playing in the red zone is harder
Speaker 4: than playing in open field. So therefore, if he can major,
Speaker 4: he can major in that. In red zone, he already
Speaker 4: step ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, joint practice stands out more, I think, just for
Speaker 5: the standpoint of being able to kind of like run
Speaker 5: your plays and now not have to worry about somebody's
Speaker 5: you know, looking at or watching them the study or
Speaker 5: the wrong eye seeing them. But yeah, but you know,
Speaker 5: I heard all the praises that Jaden got from that practice,
Speaker 5: and I wasn't shocked because you saw that here the
Speaker 5: first couple of days when we got the red zone look,
Speaker 5: the ball's coming out. You know, he knows, he understands coverage,
Speaker 5: you know who's open, and like just what you know
Speaker 5: Fred alluded to earlier, you know when we was talking
Speaker 5: about him. You know, he threw the ball away once,
Speaker 5: throwing the terry, and he just knew, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 5: this outside because I don't have time and guess what, say,
Speaker 5: save myself for the next place you get to kick
Speaker 5: a field heal so, so yeah, I mean he's one
Speaker 5: of those guys right now.
Speaker 6: That's why I said that.
Speaker 5: You know, it's not it's not a coincidence that he's
Speaker 5: gotten the NOD, But you heard some of these whispers
Speaker 5: from day one about how efficient he is, how precise
Speaker 5: he is, and just he knows what to do before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what, I gotta say this too.
Speaker 4: Since we in the quarterback room, I got to get
Speaker 4: Trace mcshare and some props coming off the couch that
Speaker 4: was listen to me. I'm gonna get that guy some props.
Speaker 4: Local kid here. Uh, that's hard to do, and I
Speaker 4: don't care about him.
Speaker 2: Knowing Cliff Kingsbury plate book, it's still hard to it's
Speaker 2: hard to do to come in there and handle itself.
Speaker 2: The way he handled hisself, and.
Speaker 4: Let's be honest, we still almost won that game, like
Speaker 4: we got the last drive to end the game.
Speaker 2: Kudo to you, my friend. Not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and anybody else telling you want to shout out
Speaker 1: from the game that you thought stood out?
Speaker 3: Oh man, what's the kid name is?
Speaker 5: I just talked to about the safety Tyler?
Speaker 2: Tyler Mer.
Speaker 4: He's telling somebody you might need to get crank up
Speaker 4: their U haul because I want a job.
Speaker 5: Tyler Ones If I'm pretty sure he's probably gonna get
Speaker 5: the run up, all the action this this next game. Yeah,
Speaker 5: if he can continue out, if he can finish this
Speaker 5: game this preseason out the way he started with these
Speaker 5: first two preseason games. Yep, go ahead and get him
Speaker 5: his number one, whatever number he's who's going to not
Speaker 5: be here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about Wiley? Michael Waller is running.
Speaker 5: That he's arguably saying he's running back three already.
Speaker 4: You know, he know he wants to see me. It
Speaker 4: feels their way to me. So it's it's some guys
Speaker 4: that's sticking out. Jamie Davis got his first second rushing
Speaker 4: the passer. So it's guys out there making plays. Now, Man,
Speaker 4: this is what I can say. It ain't not one guy.
Speaker 4: Can I see him say, you know what, he's over
Speaker 4: all head, just a bad, bad camp.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's one guy on this team. I
Speaker 2: can see him say that about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd say Tyler Owens, McSorley, I'd say Dominic Campton, Luke.
Speaker 2: McCaffrey, who made some play tough catches. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ben Sinnett has just shown up each and every game
Speaker 1: in the pre season.
Speaker 6: Give based some credits, sucking well the.
Speaker 2: Businesm made the two wheels behead. Ain't that the truth?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? Yeah? So I think obviously we
Speaker 1: talked about another guy that impressed me obviously, and he
Speaker 1: impresses me every time he out there as Jade and Daniels.
Speaker 1: This week they made the announcement that he will be
Speaker 1: the number one quarterback. And I can speak for us
Speaker 1: all when I'm saying we weren't very surprised by that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But I think the question is why we
Speaker 1: weren't surprised by it.
Speaker 4: Probably because how he's carried himself like we could. We know,
Speaker 4: because you drafted high, we ain't gonna just give you
Speaker 4: the job. But how do these guys, carry hisself and
Speaker 4: doing all the right things, pushing all the right buttons,
Speaker 4: saying all the right things. We knew it was a
Speaker 4: short time. And then I could always tell by talking
Speaker 4: to your teammates. Because talking to his teammates the layed
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, they already.
Speaker 2: Felt like he was destroyed.
Speaker 4: So by them feeling like that, that tells me he
Speaker 4: already earned their respect that half the battle.
Speaker 2: It didn't shock me.
Speaker 3: He's just ready, man. I mean, you look at it
Speaker 3: from day one.
Speaker 5: That's been the first thing everyone has said, from.
Speaker 3: The first practice.
Speaker 5: And I think also too, you know, you give a
Speaker 5: little credit to the coaching staff for not forcing them
Speaker 5: to go out there and say, well, this is your job.
Speaker 5: Let's go, you know what I mean, take us to
Speaker 5: the promise land. They allowed him to gradually go out
Speaker 5: there and you know, go with the two sometime in
Speaker 5: practice and get used to what he was seeing.
Speaker 3: And I guess over time.
Speaker 6: He just showed him like, hey, I'm a little ahead
Speaker 6: of the curve.
Speaker 3: So whenever you guys.
Speaker 6: Ready, I'm ready, you know, get ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 5: After that first preseason game and when he checked off
Speaker 5: and he looked to the sideline and gave him that
Speaker 5: little wink and gave him that point that tells you
Speaker 5: you know where he's at, confident wise, you know, and
Speaker 5: how he sees the game. And Terry's one of those guys.
Speaker 5: He he speaks elegantly, and he's one of those guys
Speaker 5: that just has been praising him left and right every
Speaker 5: time he gets a chance to get in front of
Speaker 5: that camera or the mic and just talk about how
Speaker 5: he's ahead of his time when it comes to some
Speaker 5: of the things that he's talking to him about, you know,
Speaker 5: after practice, doing practice, some of the things he's seeing
Speaker 5: and coverages the guys ready. So I'm just happy that,
Speaker 5: you know, now we put that behind us and we
Speaker 5: can move forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for me, I I agree, Tanna, Like the
Speaker 1: coaching staff did a great job, you know, the composure
Speaker 1: that he showed, the mature that he's shown. But every
Speaker 1: single opportunity he's had, you know, mini camp, preseason, okay.
Speaker 2: In practice the other team, he's.
Speaker 1: He's just answered the call man. Yeah, like, oh, I
Speaker 1: know this coverage, I know where the ball needs to go.
Speaker 1: The foot speed that the physical talent has been on display,
Speaker 1: mental talent's been on display, the leadership has been on display,
Speaker 1: and you know, like, I got a lot of respect
Speaker 1: for Marcus Marrio and now he's handled this process. But
Speaker 1: to me, it was it was very obvious that he
Speaker 1: was very, very talented football.
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 4: I was at this question and I had to seriously
Speaker 4: think about it.
Speaker 2: You know, they say the.
Speaker 4: Best quarterback class of our time is that eighty three class.
Speaker 2: Which is that Marino Marino, all those guys. Uh? Could
Speaker 2: this I.
Speaker 4: Call this the old man class because this class has
Speaker 4: started more starts than any quarterbacks in college history? Could
Speaker 4: this be the best quarterback class of all time?
Speaker 1: The new one?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four for this class with Kayle Williams Jaye
Speaker 1: dalliels like, is this the best boat?
Speaker 2: Nick's over there looking like the next coming to John Alway?
Speaker 2: Could this be when we look back twenty years from now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the best quarterback class.
Speaker 5: It's a bit premature, but it tends to lead to
Speaker 5: you saying, hey, I'm gonna keep my on it. Yes,
Speaker 5: we don't know if all these guys are going to
Speaker 5: probably you know, start, but they had more college starts
Speaker 5: than any Yeah, that tradule waiting class. Eft, Like there's
Speaker 5: a lot, and the one that had the less starts,
Speaker 5: it's Drake May. Yeah, he's the one that's starting off
Speaker 5: a little slow out the door, but he's starting to
Speaker 5: catch it.
Speaker 2: That tells you a lot.
Speaker 3: To me, they got a lot of talent.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, what I will tell you, Fred, is the
Speaker 1: preseason a lot of you football.
Speaker 2: I'm not I don't care what they do in the preseason.
Speaker 4: I'm just talking about these guys and how many quality
Speaker 4: starts they got, and they are processing the pro game
Speaker 4: to me, a little faster than some quarterback because I've
Speaker 4: seen Mark Sanchez coming here one one year, started in
Speaker 4: usc and he's still trying to figure it out. While
Speaker 4: he in the league. These guys were talking about COVID baby.
Speaker 5: Say two when Mark Sanchez, those guys went to the
Speaker 5: Division round.
Speaker 6: Yeah, two years back to back, two or three years
Speaker 6: back to Judson.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: So who knows? You know.
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is like, obviously the highlight
Speaker 1: throws we've seen from this class or tremendous. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, think about Zach Wilson.
Speaker 2: Soon, it's gonna be look like that dude in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Remember, no, I never felt like he looked good in
Speaker 1: the preseason and all of a sudden his made his
Speaker 1: brain melted it. So I'm gonna wait till we see
Speaker 1: some real football.
Speaker 2: But you were seeing ghosts. Man, I'm with you, But
Speaker 2: that happens.
Speaker 1: Though, that happens.
Speaker 2: I guess what how many years DoD Z that Wilson
Speaker 2: start two?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also j J McArthur good in the preseason start.
Speaker 4: I'm a JJ believer, Like I believe what I seen
Speaker 4: from j JJ threw the ball mode in one preseason
Speaker 4: game and he threw his whole c.
Speaker 2: And me, I'm a JJ believer.
Speaker 1: Oh goodness me. Real quick question before we get off
Speaker 1: of this. What is Marcus's role now that jameson starting?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: His role the same role he been held. I'm a nurturer.
Speaker 4: I'm a pinioned I'm a teacher like he was, Like,
Speaker 4: who better else to tell your Heisman winning number two
Speaker 4: pick what's coming for him? And what the future hold then?
Speaker 4: A former number two pick, a former Highland Trophy. Women,
Speaker 4: some did they have been through that with the same
Speaker 4: skill set he was brought here to be a teacher.
Speaker 4: I wish I was a quarterbacker, could have been a
Speaker 4: backup for like the last five years of my life
Speaker 4: and just be here to be a teacher. That's the
Speaker 4: only position that's get gifted that quarterbacks get gifted.
Speaker 1: They ever tell you the story about me, this funny story.
Speaker 1: So I was when I was in uh Atlanta, got
Speaker 1: cut right and I was like, looking to resign. I
Speaker 1: think I'm the only one here. He has been cut
Speaker 1: more than once anyway, so kudos to me, well done.
Speaker 2: They didn't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the but so I went to Houston and
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, you know, we want you to
Speaker 1: kind of mentor some of the young guys. And I
Speaker 1: am not kidding. All I did was practice and run
Speaker 1: meetings with the young guys. That had two young guys
Speaker 1: that were crazy talented. I never dressed for a game.
Speaker 1: I took notes on the sideline, got paid veat minimum,
Speaker 1: which at the time was it was a million bucks.
Speaker 4: First of all, I would have loved in my career
Speaker 4: doing it.
Speaker 2: Like for defense, we don't get them.
Speaker 1: I never I never even heard anything like that. Like
Speaker 1: I would run meetings with the young guys. I'd stay,
Speaker 1: I get there early, we'd meet, we'd go through practice review,
Speaker 1: I'd meet after practice, we'd walk through some stuff and
Speaker 1: that's all I did.
Speaker 2: No pressure on Sunday. No pressure, That's what I said.
Speaker 4: Like the backup quarterback position, it's the best position. Yeah
Speaker 4: in football, all right, we don't need you till we
Speaker 4: need you. You play probably six games and ten years low.
Speaker 4: Would you bought those six games? You got a twelve
Speaker 4: year career most of that.
Speaker 3: Teaching love that though.
Speaker 5: I mean mine was similar to that my last year
Speaker 5: because they didn't really want me to practice with the
Speaker 5: scout team.
Speaker 3: But you know me, my hard head behind, like you.
Speaker 5: Even have me out here on the New York Yeah,
Speaker 5: just not doing anything to go practice with the scout team.
Speaker 5: And then week six he's like, oh, well I dropped
Speaker 5: the ball on each out there.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I checked out. I just went and
Speaker 2: got a sleeve on my leg.
Speaker 6: I'm ready to go ahead and go to the offseason.
Speaker 5: But no, I mean no, I would have loved that position,
Speaker 5: you know, as far as just being a veteran knowing
Speaker 5: that you know, hey, I can just get a check
Speaker 5: and coach these little ones up, you.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, because I will say the job in football,
Speaker 2: it was. It was pretty sweet.
Speaker 1: But so yeah, I think you know again, like when
Speaker 1: he comes on the sideline for the game doing the
Speaker 1: radio stuff. When when Jayden comes off, like Marcus is
Speaker 1: right there like he's got the book and he's talking
Speaker 1: there and stuff, and so I think that's exactly what
Speaker 1: it is. It's a guy he can win you some
Speaker 1: games if something happens.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say that Marcus is a guy that's
Speaker 5: proven that that he still can play, you know, and.
Speaker 2: You know, don't have to change the playbook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have to change.
Speaker 5: And then you get like a guy that knows the
Speaker 5: offense and that we I guess you could say the
Speaker 5: coaching staff can trust to say, at worst, he can
Speaker 5: go out there and run us. You know we can,
Speaker 5: we can run them. We can run this whole playbook
Speaker 5: with him.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying is drift school too. It
Speaker 2: looks that way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean he's played like everyone that's oh, Jeff driscoll,
Speaker 1: he's played NFL.
Speaker 4: He's a very good backup, and he's a guy that
Speaker 4: I don't think I ever seen him play like. I
Speaker 4: got to see him play preseason game out to seen
Speaker 4: him fill in for guys and he always plays well
Speaker 4: like he's one of those guys that, like, I just
Speaker 4: can't cut Jeff Driscoll.
Speaker 5: You don't understand how valuable the backup quarterback is in
Speaker 5: this league though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You see what the Cleveland Browns did.
Speaker 5: They had a guy who the guy name was. He
Speaker 5: played here one year, Josh Jones after Chase Daniels. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Chase thing's been a backup and getting big money changed
Speaker 5: down in time.
Speaker 2: Didn't really rob the bank. Yes, he is.
Speaker 5: A valuable backup, Like you get him in the game
Speaker 5: and he can throw the ball, he can run your offense.
Speaker 5: I mean, so it's one of those situations we've seen.
Speaker 5: There have been years where like multiple starting quarterbacks went down.
Speaker 2: Last year, you know what I mean, Tim Starter's guy.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 4: The Browns signed James Winston and they signed Hunt from Baltimore.
Speaker 4: They making sure, yeah got somebody, they got somebody in
Speaker 4: the house.
Speaker 1: The other thing about the backup quarterback, and people don't
Speaker 1: maybe know about this, but like they help get the.
Speaker 2: Quarterback ready to go.
Speaker 1: So when I was in Atlanta, so Matt Ryan was
Speaker 1: a starter, Matt Shot was the backup from Newton, and
Speaker 1: so they'd get in on Tuesday morning. I'm not kidding
Speaker 1: like five thirty and they and Shot would do like
Speaker 1: red zone breakdown for the week. Matt would do first
Speaker 1: and second down. The third string guy would do I forget,
Speaker 1: maybe two minutes and then they'd come in and they
Speaker 1: would give the reports to Matt and then Matt would
Speaker 1: take the reports to the head coaching staff.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: So getting two guys who've been it, have done it,
Speaker 1: can help support your quarterback, I think is extremely important. Now,
Speaker 1: last thing I want I asked about this before we
Speaker 1: move on, is is this important for the team to
Speaker 1: know who the starting quarterback is? Because you look at
Speaker 1: like a team like New England for example, No, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they've said no, does it matter. I've been I've
Speaker 1: been a part of teams that have done it both ways.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to get.
Speaker 3: Down a little bit.
Speaker 5: But I think honestly, you know, when it comes down
Speaker 5: to you want the guys that's going to be playing
Speaker 5: with that got to know. But I think these guys
Speaker 5: kind of new you know what I mean, you're here
Speaker 5: that Yeah it was. It wasn't addressed, I guess publicly,
Speaker 5: but those guys on that staff new, like, hey man,
Speaker 5: this didn't.
Speaker 2: He's the real dead. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I think it just get an elephant after room,
Speaker 4: like the elephant after room after building.
Speaker 2: He the man, let's move on to the next thing.
Speaker 1: I was just saying because it gets guys like us
Speaker 1: not talking about it, you know what I'm saying. In season,
Speaker 1: we'd be talking about it if we're going right up
Speaker 1: to the thing, and then the players get asked about it.
Speaker 1: It's just like, hey, man, we're all down with this.
Speaker 1: This is the starter.
Speaker 2: Here you go.
Speaker 4: If you don't answer this question, now, we got to
Speaker 4: keep answering the question why, like and I can't fill in.
Speaker 2: The why all the time. So that's what it does.
Speaker 2: It literally takes the why.
Speaker 5: And that also allows those guys who fight for that
Speaker 5: second and third job to really now know that this
Speaker 5: is where.
Speaker 3: This is where I got it, this.
Speaker 5: Is where you know where the the ball lies. Basically
Speaker 5: for me, I got to go out here this last
Speaker 5: preseason game and I'm fighting to the end for this second.
Speaker 2: And third year, and I'm putting on some feel for
Speaker 2: somebody else either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that's a really nice segue. Do you
Speaker 1: do that on purpose?
Speaker 2: Oh? It's good.
Speaker 1: It's a good segue into our next segment, which is
Speaker 1: the third preseason game, and obviously we're playing the Patriots
Speaker 1: who haven't declared a starter. Let's start with our team.
Speaker 1: What is the expectation for us? I think you kind
Speaker 1: of already alluded to it. And what do you want
Speaker 1: to see in the third pieces? Like I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think Jane Dane's gonna play?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: For what does Marcus play?
Speaker 1: Probably not right?
Speaker 2: He's a market because be drisl and Trace mcsword.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think is Sam Harman going to be healthy
Speaker 1: by that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I forgot about I don't know.
Speaker 1: That would be nice if Sam got a little burned
Speaker 1: because he knows the offense really well.
Speaker 4: No, he does, and he looked poised out there. He
Speaker 4: looks like, you know, it's something to him, you know.
Speaker 1: Because they've they've talked about him in press conferences saying
Speaker 1: basically like they love his composers.
Speaker 5: I hope that he's one of those guys that we
Speaker 5: can see as a second or third guy.
Speaker 3: But it's a tough it's.
Speaker 2: A tough quarter, right. You can bring him back as
Speaker 2: the practice quad. Yeah, yeah, you can bring him back.
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I think Driscoll and Hartman if if that's
Speaker 1: what they decided to do. Could be practice squad because
Speaker 1: you couln ele of one of those guys. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it could be a Vegrian, right, And so I think
Speaker 1: that that'll be really interesting. But yeah, I think what
Speaker 1: we're watching for in this third game is I don't
Speaker 1: think Jane's gonna play. I don't think anybody who's gonna
Speaker 1: make the roster.
Speaker 3: Nobody's playing. Were not going to play.
Speaker 2: Guy's not gonna play. So they might be trying to
Speaker 2: troubleshoot a position and like we.
Speaker 1: Need more riff to see who won is like like,
Speaker 1: like what position you got an example.
Speaker 4: That defensive line de tackle to be pacific? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 4: that's a log jam. Yeah, where they like we can't
Speaker 4: just close eyes and pick y'all play for Darien matthis
Speaker 4: play your way out through here.
Speaker 1: And we didn't talk about this, but the big Phil
Speaker 1: played well in this last game, like this the best
Speaker 1: I've seen him play, and like that, to me, I
Speaker 1: was like, Phil is gonna be gone. Don't know what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do it now. All of a sudden, I'm like, shoot,
Speaker 1: he's he's in the race. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Think about it. If I'm for Dari and Mathis. I
Speaker 4: want to play. If I'm Chris rod Reevez, I want
Speaker 4: to play, If I'm Cole Turner, I want to play.
Speaker 2: Like it's some guys on here.
Speaker 5: It's a lot of guys that going, yeah, they're playing,
Speaker 5: but we're talking about the main guys, the guys that's
Speaker 5: going to that that first twenty two ain't playing.
Speaker 4: I would say, out of the wire receiver, that a
Speaker 4: crazy story for you about I would say, out.
Speaker 2: Of the wire receivers, I just see Terry being the
Speaker 2: only one that not playing. So no about that.
Speaker 1: So when I was so when I was in Atlanta
Speaker 1: in two thousand, must have been seventeen that season that offseason,
Speaker 1: anybody who they thought was going to make the team.
Speaker 1: I'm talking forty five dudes did not dress for this
Speaker 1: last preseason like the Rams do this saying Fran does this,
Speaker 1: Like basically, if you are in that mix for that
Speaker 1: starting thing there, like you're not going to play. And
Speaker 1: so I wonder if it's even deeper than we think.
Speaker 1: It's like the too deep, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then it's just a couple extra guys, not.
Speaker 4: With the free ages we have, not with the new coaches.
Speaker 4: I just think it's too new to be comfortable, like
Speaker 4: to be comfortable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we could be surprised too, So you never know,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: But I would I would think that more people than
Speaker 1: you think won't play meeting those position battles that we're
Speaker 1: talking about. If you do see big field playing like
Speaker 1: he's on the line, safety playing right like they're on
Speaker 1: the line, and like that's the last data point because
Speaker 1: it's only going to be a couple of guys.
Speaker 2: Yea, even if even if it's just the starters.
Speaker 5: What I look at it too, man, and I ain't
Speaker 5: trying to go out there and throw them on in
Speaker 5: the bus, but you look at certain positions might need
Speaker 5: more says that it's real. Some starters that didn't play
Speaker 5: a lot in the first game played a little bit
Speaker 5: last week and then then didn't turn out. We didn't
Speaker 5: turn out well, so you never know, they might get
Speaker 5: thrown out there for another quarter for another series.
Speaker 2: So de tackle room is packed.
Speaker 6: You heard it from me, but you know the safety room.
Speaker 2: Is also packed.
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, so if you default, you won't if
Speaker 4: you Butler.
Speaker 2: I think Percy's in what do you think.
Speaker 5: Special teams too? I don't I think he brings them
Speaker 5: to the table special teams.
Speaker 1: Was he's looked good, he's at a good preceston safety room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's safe to me.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons why they're moving
Speaker 1: to your point where they move Dominicqumpton the linebacker in
Speaker 1: addition to injuries and the guy who played well.
Speaker 6: And it's a little crazy how I saw.
Speaker 5: I saw who we thought was going to probably be
Speaker 5: a starter, and up he played longer in the second
Speaker 5: half at corner. And that's your boy, Mike David kind
Speaker 5: of like oh man, but still a right now, like
Speaker 5: he's a starter at the corner. Yeah, and playing pretty well.
Speaker 2: Know, just playing with that consisty. I keep saying, run Dave, Bob.
Speaker 1: I guess what we're saying here kind of a round
Speaker 1: about ways. You want to see the final touches of
Speaker 1: the roster. Yeah, and this is your opportunity, your last
Speaker 1: opportunity if you're a player like I played in this
Speaker 1: game almost every year of my career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is play too.
Speaker 1: It's the last one you got for one or two,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, last one you got. So
Speaker 1: let's make it work. Let's make it happen, and then
Speaker 1: let's talk about are we expecting to see Drake may
Speaker 1: I think that's another Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we go see Drake May. We only a quarterback.
Speaker 4: No, because I heard Mayo say, Jacob said he is playing. Really,
Speaker 4: they're going to play their staughters.
Speaker 1: So do you think if they play their starters, will
Speaker 1: play our shorter.
Speaker 4: No, We're not finna match their stink. The thing about
Speaker 4: it is they understand.
Speaker 1: I like how you said they stink because they held
Speaker 1: their starters out in seventeen and now they stink because
Speaker 1: they're playing their starters.
Speaker 4: No, they playing, they still cause they don't even know
Speaker 4: who start. That's why they playing. They like they at
Speaker 4: rock bottom, rock meat Bottle, that's where they and they're
Speaker 4: just trying to understand where they're at. So I can
Speaker 4: see Joe, Jacoby said, playing and think about this, Joe
Speaker 4: Milton been playing very good. Like they got an RG
Speaker 4: three Kirk Cousin situation over there. So if I'm a
Speaker 4: defensive court now, I'm like, I'm happy to see these
Speaker 4: three quarterback.
Speaker 2: That's a good test for my younger guy. I will say.
Speaker 1: The Joe Milton thing, the Kirk Cousins comparison, he's not
Speaker 1: quite there yet, but I think he's shown enough where
Speaker 1: I'd put a package in for him, like kind of
Speaker 1: like a tayso some hell like short yard or something.
Speaker 4: So, but what you're saying is you he'll end up
Speaker 4: playing some plays before Kurty because Kurt had to wait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kurt had to wait. So that's that's how I
Speaker 1: would do it. I've always thought of that. Like coaching
Speaker 1: high school football is totally changed my perspective on this.
Speaker 1: If you were really dialed in and you had a
Speaker 1: guy like Joe Milton, it's hard to find guys like
Speaker 1: Joe Melton, and you put in like a wildcat package
Speaker 1: with it like a small, like heavy package where it's
Speaker 1: like he can run and there's a couple of passes
Speaker 1: option to maximize your short yardage and steal first downs.
Speaker 1: I think there's something to that.
Speaker 2: It's something to that because now we are forced as
Speaker 2: a defense prep to prep.
Speaker 3: Now get you're.
Speaker 4: Taking time away for much worrying about Drake May. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and we got worried about this dude. And every time
Speaker 4: we see him come in there, first thing will come
Speaker 4: to your head. They find run it with him, you know,
Speaker 4: will we not?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you get you don't get man coverage. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: got a win, man, he just picked your matchup throw.
Speaker 2: That he could throw nine yards with that looking he's
Speaker 2: a beast.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the New England quarterback battle is interesting.
Speaker 1: Like Drake May Perseett. I mean, I expect for Sett
Speaker 1: to absolutely deal in the fourth ree season game against
Speaker 1: a bunch of backups.
Speaker 2: But I just we know eventually this's Drake May's job.
Speaker 2: But Drake May look good the last game. But does it?
Speaker 1: But is it indicative of something that they haven't declared
Speaker 1: it yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's just good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dacobe's good man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacobley. But at one point.
Speaker 5: When the season is old, I mean, going with your
Speaker 5: young quarterback with a team that's not complete.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta go and let him get used
Speaker 2: to it at one point eventually put him in the game.
Speaker 3: Eventually, but not not the first couple of weeks, I
Speaker 3: don't think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. All right, let's do the game predictions.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: This is an unusual game prediction because we're not predicting
Speaker 1: a score. We're not get going to predict who's gonna
Speaker 1: be are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's score school is going to be twenty nine
Speaker 4: to twenty, boy line twenty Yeah, twenty nine to twenty.
Speaker 4: How we gonna get to twenty?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Jason's like sure whatever, Yeah, twenty nine
Speaker 2: to twenty.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be the preseason score, the last preseason game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So obviously Fred's predicting a score. I'm just predicting, like I,
Speaker 1: this is like where I want to see the Chris Rodriguez,
Speaker 1: the Bryson Tremaine. Yeah, you know, the Bennet Puttie.
Speaker 2: The uh oh, I've been saying his name wrong.
Speaker 1: How do you say?
Speaker 2: I don't say potato, I say, I say it, don't.
Speaker 1: Say mess me up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh god, this guy, you shann't say Andre Andre but
Speaker 1: Andre but Jamon Davis. Those kind of guys, those like
Speaker 1: fringe roster guys, guys that have had good either offseason
Speaker 1: practices or have been the little blackluster or switching positions.
Speaker 1: This is all the chips are in. If you put
Speaker 1: your stamp on and say I played well in this game,
Speaker 1: I deserve it. Like there's five dudes, five dudes, Tanna
Speaker 1: that'll make the team off this game. You think six dudes,
Speaker 1: maybe six, six, seven dudes, six seven dudes.
Speaker 5: This game is always interesting to me because I think
Speaker 5: you get you get a chance to see those kids
Speaker 5: from college that just go out there and look, they
Speaker 5: had nothing to lose, so they're going to probably put
Speaker 5: up points.
Speaker 3: So I say it'd be a fourteen thirteen game.
Speaker 2: I called this the Victor Cruz time of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you love that.
Speaker 4: I love it because I've seen this dude come in
Speaker 4: and they like, he ain't gonna make the team and
Speaker 4: he ended up being a number one receiver.
Speaker 2: How many times did that happen.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Like that's his story. I remember
Speaker 1: playing against him. I was that was my rookie year
Speaker 1: and he was with the Jets just being like, who
Speaker 1: the heck is that guy? Yeah, and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's Cruise and like no one knew who it was
Speaker 1: like doing had any context for it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they were doing the salsa for years afterday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's my one thought on that is just make it, dude,
Speaker 1: if you're close, make a pushkas Allen return a kick,
Speaker 1: somebody do something. Let's make it happen and.
Speaker 4: Uh Brian make a play. That's who I'm pulling it. Brian, Yeah,
Speaker 4: my tab is Brian. Oh yeah, go make a play.
Speaker 1: I got a funny story about the fourth preseason game,
Speaker 1: which this is like replacing it.
Speaker 2: It sounds like nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 1: I remember I came in with d Y, the fullback there,
Speaker 1: all young, and we're gonna watch a little bit of
Speaker 1: film of we were playing Arizona and we're getting ready
Speaker 1: to sit down, and Bobby Turner remember the old running
Speaker 1: back though, He goes, what the hell you guys doing
Speaker 1: in here? And we're like, oh, we're just getting ready
Speaker 1: for the Arizona game. He's like, no, I gotta watch
Speaker 1: film of whoever the Week one opponent is. You guys
Speaker 1: gotta get the hell out.
Speaker 2: Of what you're doing in here. That love possible hell
Speaker 2: out of here.
Speaker 1: Get you're not gonna make the team, Get out, shoot
Speaker 1: sho shoo shoo.
Speaker 5: I remember we cut d Y as a linebacker and
Speaker 5: brought him back as a full back.
Speaker 2: He crushed it. Man, did he come here as a football.
Speaker 3: Line back from Vos playing linebacker?
Speaker 2: Bro I did not know that he left.
Speaker 5: I was like, man, the dude has so much potential,
Speaker 5: Like you know, you saw him fly around. I didn't
Speaker 5: watch him, you know, you know, as a linebacker, but
Speaker 5: you saw him fly. He became a robot. Knew that
Speaker 5: room was kind of packed. But when he came back
Speaker 5: as a full back, I'm like, I didn't even know
Speaker 5: he had that inny, like quarterback you put pressure on
Speaker 5: because I think I think Mike was his still Instantly he.
Speaker 4: Was like, oh no, they're saying a lot of goals
Speaker 4: the blueprint there with.
Speaker 3: A full back. He's young and hungry, you know.
Speaker 5: And you know Waller was at the end d wash
Speaker 5: smashing heads like he didn't care, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So wow, that's good to know.
Speaker 1: So who's gonna be the this year's d Y. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna be this year's Victor Cruz? I can't wait to
Speaker 1: find out. This is the I have a lot of
Speaker 1: love in my heart for this game. I'm gonna watch
Speaker 1: it very closely because this is where some dreams are made,
Speaker 1: and this is the last this is the last time
Speaker 1: some people are ever gonna play football. So that's gonna
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