1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: On today's episode of Command Center Podcast, jayde and Daniels 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Quarterback one surprise, Yeah, and then we do a Miami 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: review and a New England preview, and then Fred versus 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: a gorilla who wins it all. 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: Starts right now. Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred Smoot and Santana mos. Hey, guys, 7 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: I got something I've been wanting to ask you for 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: a while. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 3: Now. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: You guys like gorillas, you guys in on gorillas? 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, really yeah, this is a. 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 1: Good question for you. Okay, So I started this thought experiment. 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: I asked b Mitch this over the weekend, and it 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: was B Mitch's birthday, so you can imagine how his 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: answer went. 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: And my son birthday. Yeah, oh really yeah, it's. 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: A happy birthday to your son. 18 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: Yesterday with bothday birthday you're which. 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: One you're you're ninth grader or yeah, my ninth grader. 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Fred's son and Mitch. So basically, in 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: this room, there is a wild gorilla. We are in 22 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: this room, or there's people in this room. 23 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: Right. 24 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: You cannot use any weapons, and you are like kind 25 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: of like just like not naked, but like you don't 26 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: have anything with you, you know, shoelaces, no, nothing, right, right? 27 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: How many people making it out of it would it 28 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: take to defeat the gorilla? 29 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 4: Well, a gorilla literally has what five times the scrint 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 4: of it ten times. 31 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: To scrint of a human being. 32 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ten times to scrint. 33 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 4: So I would say it'll take one person each other, 34 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 4: five of us. 35 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: That's it. 36 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 4: Five, just five, because I'm going one person each limb okay, 37 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: and I'm going with the eliminator that's the last person. 38 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: Who's are they? All? You? Are? 39 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: They? 40 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: Like? 41 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: Who who you got? 42 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Who's on your. 43 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: Te I'm gonna take be Mitching there with me. 44 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: Dude, B Mitch, I'm telling you. B Mitch was was 45 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good about himself and he was like, I 46 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: will beat the gorilla and genuinely being serious. 47 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: Yes, take be Mitching there. I'll take London in there 48 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: with me. Also, Yeah, I take Bluefoot in there. Maybe 49 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: they could talk hen what may make that they they 50 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: can we can talk this out. We don't have to 51 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 4: do no violence, right, So I'm gonna take a couple of. 52 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: Guys in there with Strint, all right. 53 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 5: I was gonna say the same thing about you. I'm 54 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 5: taking you trying to talk and they can lay on. 55 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 4: But the gorilla gonna mess us up because unlike us, 56 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 4: he don't got no restraint. 57 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: I control, that's what. 58 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you said, the five people. 59 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 5: Were not we're not defeating that gorilla, man, So the 60 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 5: best thing to do is to do something with them. 61 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 2: You're trying to you trying to break a deal. We 62 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 2: did that. 63 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 5: You want him one of a gun because you ain't 64 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 5: fighting that gorilla and you ain't trying to get it 65 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: out of there. I mean, you know how some people 66 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 5: say go out without it. I mean, I ain't going 67 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 5: out without a fight. Yeah, you better trying to. 68 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 4: The question is at what point does the gorilla get tired? 69 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: Because we gonna get tired. What point was he said? 70 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 4: You know what I need? 71 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 5: You're tired and one hit, one hit, Yeah you're out. 72 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: O one time is a rap. 73 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: I think about this probably more than I should. And 74 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: like the first person that gets absolutely smoked by that gorilla, 75 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: like you could have. You could have one hundred people 76 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: in here and they're be like, nah, you know what 77 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean? 78 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: Like, well, you know, hippo hippo bottom is is more 79 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: dangerous than right. 80 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: But I'm saying there's no there's no physical way for 81 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: us to kill a hippo bottamus. 82 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 2: Well, hippo bottom is kills more people per year. 83 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm aware of most. I'm aware of that. But how 84 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: but we couldn't at least with a gorilla. There's a conversation, 85 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we could choke it out. I don't know, 86 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: like but they got no. 87 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: Can you sit at home thinking about choking the gorilla out? 88 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 4: Like all right, let me ask you this, what wrestley 89 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 4: move are you going to? 90 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Like? 91 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: I need to stabilize this gorilla. 92 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: What moves sounds like the hitlot step on his toe? 93 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: I just think this may I think about this too 94 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: also because I remember one time I tried to break 95 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: up a fight between Trent and a defensive tackle and 96 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Trent calls himself the silver back, make silver back on 97 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: his back? Yeah, And I used, I'm a pretty strong guy, 98 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: Like I work out a lot, I'm pretty strong without 99 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: a s yeah, and it's it's not great, but like 100 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm overcoming bad genetic and and I tried to get 101 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: rapping around the waist and like pull him back, Yeah, 102 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: big Trent, And you would have thought that I wasn't 103 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: even there, and I weighed two hundred and seventy pounds, 104 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm six five, and I could not get him disengage 105 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: the person. 106 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: So when I think. 107 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: About someone who's ten times stronger than Trent, yeah, like 108 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: there is no move. There's no move that I think a. 109 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: Great thing about it. 110 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: I'm the idiot to go try him first, So I 111 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:28,799 Speaker 4: get tossed over there. 112 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: So once y'all see me get tossed against the wall, 113 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna try it first? What would you like? You're 114 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: not just I'm just gonna go and get it over with. 115 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: Like at one point, you know, if we say we 116 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: hit again. 117 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: So when the gorilla killed him from that, what's that, 118 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 5: I'll lay next to him, put his blood on me. 119 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 4: Hey, hey we're going down. 120 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: But but that's an interesting thing because like what if 121 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: I went over and like you got a broken bone, 122 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: I just took your bone out and then I could 123 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: stab the gorilla. So you really would save us, you 124 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So like you going first would 125 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: save and well, and we'll have a really nice memorial 126 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: for you. We'll be like man. 127 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: Eat everything he could to save us, and we got 128 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: your bones hanging out. 129 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: People don't think about the thing. But if you was 130 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: in the jungle, you have to take on these animals. 131 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: And but the thing is that I think this is 132 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: why I like the thought experiment and leave a comment 133 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: how many people would have take the defeat gorilla in 134 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: a room. 135 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take my chances of freezing and getting knocked 136 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 5: out and then trying. 137 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: To fight and get knocked out. But think about it. 138 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: If I if I said here's here's a knife, everyone 139 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: gets a knife. 140 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah we can we can stop doable? Yeah, spear way doable. 141 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, even if I gave you a plate like a 142 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: metal plate from the weight room, doable. 143 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 2: Give me a number two pencil doable? 144 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: This guy like my guy over here. But yeah, So 145 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: if you want to leave an email about how many 146 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: people would take the defeated gorilla in a small room, 147 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: go to that hawk outside at gmail dot com and 148 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: leave an email, or you can leave a comment here. 149 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: If they hawk ca him down, I would grab his 150 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: foot with the hawk and how could be outside? 151 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I love that. That's a good thought experiment. 152 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: It is not I'm gonna go home and think about 153 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: fighting the gorilla myself. 154 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: Tanna had the best answers, though he's hiding under the 155 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: curtain back there. 156 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not thinking about it because I ain't even. 157 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: It would just chance. 158 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Just so much pain, just so much pain, says I. 159 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: Can see us just having him like one of them, 160 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 4: each one leg each and and you got him in 161 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 4: the head locking. 162 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: You ever wrestled like a bunch of you got a 163 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: lot of kids, You ever wrestled like a bunch of 164 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: five year olds, and you're just like, that's how the 165 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: girl would be with us. 166 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: So don't worry about it. 167 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: Knock him dance all right. 168 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: In addition to gorilla conversations, we also talked about football, 169 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: we also have the hail Tails podcast, which is talking 170 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: more Carlisle stories carl Isle, Carlyle or car Isle, depending 171 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: on where you're from, And we have a special appearance 172 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: from one Fred Smoot. 173 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: I go by Frederick Man, Frederick Smoot, Thank you, Fred. 174 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: What did you talk about on this show? 175 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 4: I talked about my trials and tribulations in Carlile. 176 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: I talked about my rookie season. 177 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: When I got there, I held out yees, so I 178 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 4: held out three days. 179 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Is this where they put all your stuff outside? 180 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: No? 181 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: No, I held out for more money before I reported 182 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: the camp. 183 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: Good move. Yeah, I wanted to be paid like a 184 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: first round and like I was. 185 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: And they paid you. 186 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: So yeah they did. 187 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: That's a pretty big time. 188 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: And when I got there there first day, it was 189 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: like downhill from the town I got. 190 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: They put me in middle linebacker. 191 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah, you told this story before. This is one 192 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: of the c I would have probably quit if they 193 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: would have been like, Logan, go play even if I 194 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: go play middle linebacker at Tenna. If they said, hey, Tanner, 195 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: go play middle linebacker on goal line. Yeah, having seen 196 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: goal line period. 197 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 5: And then having Stephen Davis as a tailbag, I've been 198 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 5: thrusting a similar situation. But I was in the Little League, 199 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: ok And I was playing one twenties one hundred. Okay, yeah, 200 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 5: so I was trying to make. 201 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: The team and one day, like I was on another team. 202 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 5: And my dad didn't want me to. They gave me 203 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 5: a spot on that team when I was sick. So 204 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 5: I say, my dad told me I couldn't play that 205 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 5: yet because I didn't work. 206 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: For my spot. 207 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 5: So I rode my bikes and runs on team working 208 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: out or playing and practicing, and I'm like, I'm gonna 209 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 5: try for this team since he is, he said, I 210 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 5: gotta earn my spot. 211 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 212 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: It was one hundred and twenty pounds. 213 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: I'm only ninety. 214 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 5: So they gave me the ball running back like three 215 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 5: times and I'm like coach receive and they were smacking 216 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 5: me like the third time. I just like, man, I'm outrunning. 217 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 5: Everybody hit the sideline, give them, give them uniform and 218 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: made the team. So thinking about that and you having 219 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 5: to play lineback up the cone. 220 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they just they just jammed it into me 221 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 4: to play out to play out to play. 222 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: How many playschef do you remember? 223 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: Had like five plays consecutively. 224 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: And I remember me going to sleep that night that 225 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 4: first night of training campt completion. 226 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: And I was like, I got the wrong job, Like 227 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: I should. 228 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: Have been a layer, maybe an actor, I don't know, 229 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: maybe a hand model. 230 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: So commercially, I don't know, Like I. 231 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 6: Really thought in my head like she had a couple 232 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 6: of million dollars to go with it. 233 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, No, that make me say you better 234 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 4: stay in here, baby. 235 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: So that's what you the story you're told on the I. 236 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: Told this story, but I told a lot of more story. 237 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: I told how my my rookie hazing happened, all. 238 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: The stuff I had to go through there. Talked about 239 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 4: the ice cream, the famous ice cream shop. 240 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: I talked about how you could just sniff in the 241 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,359 Speaker 2: air and you could smell. 242 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: Hershey, Pennsylvania, all over the state of Pennsylvania, just chocolate everywhere. 243 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: Nice. 244 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't what I mean. So obviously, if you 245 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: want to hear more Carls stories from that era, that 246 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: kind of golden era of the Washington Commanders, are you 247 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: part of the Golden Area? Uh no, No, that's what 248 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: I thought. I thought, you're you're gonna buy it. 249 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: But at the time FDIX was still rocking. Yeah, everything 250 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: was still Yeah, we were still in place. Now, we 251 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 4: still we had hope. I hope was still there. And 252 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: so that's always a great show. Obviously, Hannah and Jason 253 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 4: does a great job on that show. And so make 254 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: sure you check it out if you're a fan of 255 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: this team and this team's history, it's a must listen. 256 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 4: All right, But now we're setting kind of recent history, 257 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: no current history. Yeah, current it's not even history. 258 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Can it be current history? 259 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it can't be current history. Dude, Look at you 260 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: with the vokeb over there knuckles. Yeah, all right, current events. 261 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: And we just had a game against the Miami Dolphins 262 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: in the preseason. We lost, and I'm pretty bummed about it. No, 263 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm not. 264 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm gonna say it's a preseason game. 265 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, like I mean, we talked about this last time. 266 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Does it matter? I know a lot of fans get 267 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: worked up about it. Like it's crazy to me that 268 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: fans still ask me, like, does it matter? It's too 269 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: bad we lost that game? Like this is this is 270 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: for something different, And I feel like fans don't have 271 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: don't really get that sometimes. 272 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 4: First of all, it's a pillow fight preseason, not played, 273 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 4: not schemed, not the best players on the field. No 274 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: one cares who wins the game. The the end game 275 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 4: of this is to get out of there healthy and 276 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: to get some good work. Other than that, and I 277 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: much remind y'all, we went three and oh last year 278 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: in the preseason. 279 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: You know how that turned out? 280 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: How to turn out? And I'm just kidding, No, I. 281 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 3: Feel the same. 282 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 5: I think one of the things about it, I think 283 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 5: as players, we wanted to win in a sense, just 284 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 5: to have that you know what I mean that you 285 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 5: know how that feels when you have to practice the 286 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 5: next week or the next day and just having that 287 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 5: l hanging over you. But not only for yourself. You 288 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 5: did it, you wanted to do it for those guys 289 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 5: who was trying to make the squad. Yeah, those guys 290 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 5: had now because getting that win will give them a 291 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 5: better chance to say, well, at least this guy. Something 292 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 5: had to be done well for those guys to go 293 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 5: out there and get the victory. So that's the only 294 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 5: time we really worried about it, because you want the 295 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: team to have that kind of you know what I mean, 296 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 5: that energy from a win. But when it comes down 297 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 5: to just greating things and how you look at it 298 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 5: from the I guess the big picture standpoint, Who cares? 299 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: Man? 300 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 5: You know, we're just trying to get ready. It's a 301 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 5: glorified practice if you ask. 302 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: Me, you know what I mean. 303 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 5: It's practice with people bingo is having a game experience 304 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 5: at practice. 305 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's one hundred percent right. I 306 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: couldn't have said it better myself, Like it's it's it's 307 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: it has a purpose. And so in the same way 308 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: you practice with a purpose, you practice to see how 309 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: your new two minute looks. You practice to see how 310 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: your goal line looks. You're practicing that, but you're practicing 311 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: it for the coaches. So the coach has to call plays. 312 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: We have to work on subs, we have to work 313 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: on the communication from the sideline. Those are all things 314 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: we need to work on. But like Fred said, it's 315 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: a huge piece of evaluation. Like, I went back and 316 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: watched a lot of football because I'm just trying to 317 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: get a feel for all the individual players, you know, 318 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: So I'm watching every position and there are guys that 319 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: you've never heard of on this roster that are playing 320 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: fifty snaps. Yeah, and they will not be playing football 321 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: no offense to that person in the regular season, right. 322 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: So truth, it's an evaluation tool. It's a kind of 323 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: a dress rehearsal for some stuff. So I do think 324 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: like and but I will say this though, I was 325 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: actually really impressed with some of the stuff that Miami 326 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: did offensively, some of the stuff we did, some of 327 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: the stuff we did defensively, and some of the stuff 328 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: that that the Cliff kind of had in and kind 329 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: of how helped Jade. Now we'll talk about that here 330 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: in a second. But one of the things I want 331 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: to ask you guys, and I guess we'll start with 332 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: thread because it's a defensive question. Miami in the joint 333 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: practice and Miami in the preseason had a lot of 334 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to say a lot of offense in 335 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: because I feel like that's misleading, but they had a 336 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: lot of motions and shifts and kind of window dressing. 337 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: How is taking care of that in the preseason game? 338 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 4: It's easy, actually because we're playing so green and our 339 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 4: calls are so blah, meaning cover two, you motion, we 340 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 4: still in cover two, Cover three, you motion, were still 341 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 4: in cover three. 342 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: Like it's fine. 343 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: They didn't, but they didn't game plan. So I felt 344 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: like there was a couple of times watching it back 345 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, that's a bust. We didn't get 346 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: that communicated or we didn't handle that correct. 347 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: Because it ain't that ain't in that playbook. Yet we ain't. 348 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: And that's why I say, coach won't to see play 349 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 4: us in some bad positions. I like to see how 350 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: they work theyself out. That was a perfect thing to 351 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: go against the Miami team. There's gonna motion, not every 352 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 4: other play. Every play somebody's gonna be in motion. So 353 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: he wanted to see with them stand up to that play. 354 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 4: Discipline play, You'll reach your keys, understand what's going on. 355 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: And don't get food with that window dressing. That's all 356 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: it is is window dressing. 357 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: So at the point, I think because the defensive coordinator 358 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: was calling such a blocking it hilped the amount against 359 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: the motion. 360 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna as because you've played against I'm 361 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: sure defenses. Guy, I was with you at the time 362 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: where you're in like the first second preseason game and 363 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: someone brings like zero pressure. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, 364 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: And like, can you speak to like how that just 365 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: throws a wrench because you haven't prepped it. Yeah, you 366 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like. 367 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: It throws a wrench. 368 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: And I think it also shows the coaches you know 369 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 5: who you have at quarterback. I think that's one of 370 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 5: the things that I took from it, when you're watching 371 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: yourself in those situations offensively, knowing that all we only 372 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 5: have a hand for the plays that we're gonna run 373 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 5: or formations that we're gonna show. And then the team 374 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 5: you saw a corner blitz and I'm sitting there talking 375 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 5: about cat Yeah, and we like, but but see seeing 376 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 5: what the quarterback does with that opportunity will tell you 377 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 5: where we're at. But offensively, we're not expecting us to 378 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 5: really do nothing, you know, because you know what I mean. Yeah, 379 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: but when I'm watching and getting back to what you're 380 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 5: talking about, watching Miami do what they did, it always 381 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 5: reminded me of twenty ten and those years we had 382 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 5: we had Sean, I mean, Kyle call and Sean because. 383 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: That's what we did. 384 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 5: We ran what were gonna run and rather you was. 385 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 5: It helped us offensively just to be ready come week one. 386 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 5: We weren't trying to go out there and run the 387 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 5: whole playbook, but we had a set of plays that 388 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 5: we want to be efficient enough on to say that 389 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 5: we won. We're going to see this, We're going to 390 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 5: probably you know, go back you know through these do 391 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 5: these same plays. So I was kind of pleased to 392 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 5: see our defenses to be kind of simple and boring and. 393 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: Still with it. 394 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 5: You saw a couple of guys here and there open 395 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 5: you know, and those base coverages, but the same titles. 396 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 5: Guys flew around and they was it was every man 397 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 5: to the ball, you know what I mean, like they 398 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 5: should be. 399 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: And that's why you're the Mantana because that's the one 400 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: thing that I took away too, is like, you know, 401 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: I watched a ton of film and every person is 402 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: playing with that energy the juice on that defensive side 403 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: of the football, and it's crazy to watch because like 404 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: just how that covers stuff. 405 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: Up for you. 406 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, All this, dude's open, but 407 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: we are hauling to the ball. 408 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: And we gonna get there. We're gonna get there by 409 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: them like this. 410 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: What great defenses are organized chaos its finest and the 411 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: one thing about defense and a good defense, we got 412 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: each other back. 413 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: So if you file short, I feel in the gap 414 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: for you. 415 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like that's a really interesting like 416 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: comparison to what Cliff has in right now because like Miami, 417 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: it was like every play there's a motion, we're trying 418 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: to get angles, we're trying like you could tell they 419 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: let me just say, that's right, not that they don't 420 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: have their whole offense end, but they game planned for us. 421 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 4: No, No, you can tell that everybody in their offense been 422 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: there in that offense for years. They're not storing from 423 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: zero like us, from scratch, like they're just and to 424 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: what they already. Have they got the same quarterback into 425 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: same running backs, same wide received they just add to 426 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: a playbook where we stow it in the playbook. 427 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the a lot of ringles. And I feel like 428 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: with Cliff it was very simple is the wrong word, 429 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: because there was an element of complexity in there. But 430 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: they're going hurry up, they're finding good matchups. And I 431 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: felt like just watching it that after watching practice too, 432 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: that he's playing something close to the vest. You know 433 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. 434 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 6: I saw hitches from the outside. 435 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: I saw slip screen. 436 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 5: I mean, if that wasn't vanilla, I don't know what 437 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 5: it was, you know what I mean? I mean I 438 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 5: was watching them complete passes with the basic one on 439 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 5: one you know, first day of pre season or first 440 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 5: day of camp. 441 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 3: You know a route, route tree, you know. 442 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: Which, which I think is great because it speaks to 443 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: I think a couple of things. One Jade Daniels accuracy 444 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: that just jumped out to me when I was watching it, 445 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: like his ability like to for you to run a 446 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: hitch good coverage and then the timing and the ball placement, 447 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: like there's no coverage for a perfect throw. Yeah, and 448 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: I love to see that and Also, I just think 449 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: the other thing that Cliff did there, which was great, 450 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: As you said, Danna were an easy kind of formations, 451 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: but he was able to identify pressures, identify coverages, and 452 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: identify matchups. 453 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: And they had a lot to do with that hurry up. 454 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: Like the one thing about. 455 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: Hurry up, man, give me how it transitions, and it 456 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: makes us say play cover too, And once he sees that, 457 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 4: once Jaydon sees that his reads are cleaner, and if 458 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 4: you speed the game up, we're always gonna be able 459 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: to force to play something easy, something fast, something smart. 460 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: But guess who else knows we're in that. That quarterback 461 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: knows that we're in that, and they're just Brady did 462 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: this at a high level. 463 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: He would literally force us, they'll go hurry up, force 464 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 4: us to play cover two or cover for whatever your cover, 465 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: whatever your hurry up check is. And he would throw 466 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 4: it to the same player five times and real like 467 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 4: that's how disciplined he was. And they go to week spot. 468 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 4: I ain't going nowhere, And that's what Jane's gonna have 469 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: that clear reed. 470 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 5: Or Wes welcome you to sleep like over and over 471 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 5: here for that dude, get ten catchers in the same drive, Like, bro, 472 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 5: we ain't stopping that play. 473 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: V unbranch you to deal, all right. So yeah, that's 474 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: what hurry Up does. 475 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: That's what uh Barron Lovewood said about him, is he's 476 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: okay being boring. Yeah, he's okay, just doing the right thing. 477 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 5: It was the same way those guys, I mean, Regine 478 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 5: was still on the outside of the numbers and just 479 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 5: sit there. Yeah, and they knew the players because he 480 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 5: calling numbers and they knew, okay, number five, I gotta 481 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: do this, all right, he called them red red, I 482 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 5: gotta do this. So when you get to that part 483 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 5: of your game, that's when you like, I mean you 484 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 5: clicking you're the master. Yeah, you're the master what you 485 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 5: got offensively, But just to see what we was doing 486 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 5: preseason wise, man, And because one of the things that 487 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 5: you take from watching those guys perform, whether they get 488 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 5: a win, a little a w or l just seeing, 489 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 5: like I said before, the command of the quarterback with 490 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 5: his huddle with his guys and how efficient they are 491 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 5: in each play. You know what I mean, You didn't sell. 492 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 5: You really saw ball on the ground. You saw guys 493 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 5: running precise route, you saw guys catching the ball. You 494 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 5: saw guys blocking. Everybody was doing their jobs. So when 495 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 5: I'm watching that and it's a preseason, this is what 496 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: I want to see. This is a win for me 497 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 5: offensively for what I want to see far as production 498 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 5: wise from my team. 499 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally totally agree with that. I think the 500 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: other thing I wanted to point out too, is just 501 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: how Cliff called the game. You mentioned the screens, you 502 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: mentioned the runs. They had a couple of second and longs. 503 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: He didn't try to go for a big chunk play, 504 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 1: gets into a third and five, third and four, third 505 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: and six, much more manageable, and they just did a 506 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: great job being efficient even though it was kind of basic. 507 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: And another thing that I wanted to kind of ask 508 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: about is in the joint practice, Jayden in the red 509 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: zone was like five for five touchdowns, you know, and 510 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: obviously in the game it's you know, it's four field 511 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: goals or whatever it ends up being, right, So which 512 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: is more important and why do you think they were 513 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: more efficient in the joint practice? 514 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: Joint practice more important? Because joint practice they was called 515 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: in plays. They was scheming each other, they was attacking 516 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 4: each other, They was running stuff that they're going to 517 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: run in October, they was running stuff that's gonna be 518 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 4: ran in December. It was ones against ones. It was 519 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 4: your peak talent against my peak talent. We gonna do 520 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 4: situational that tears me. 521 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: A lot if him going five for five. 522 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 4: In those situations tell me not only is he processing quick, 523 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 4: he's learning to have too complete plays. 524 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 2: In a short window. 525 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: I love checking people in the red zone because your 526 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: speed don't. 527 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 2: Matter no more, nothing matters. 528 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: But can you make a play in the tenth of 529 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 4: a second that I cannot make? 530 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: So that means micro managing him in that situation. 531 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 4: That's to me. Playing in the red zone is harder 532 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 4: than playing in open field. So therefore, if he can major, 533 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: he can major in that. In red zone, he already 534 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 4: step ahead. 535 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, joint practice stands out more, I think, just for 536 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 5: the standpoint of being able to kind of like run 537 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 5: your plays and now not have to worry about somebody's 538 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 5: you know, looking at or watching them the study or 539 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 5: the wrong eye seeing them. But yeah, but you know, 540 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 5: I heard all the praises that Jaden got from that practice, 541 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 5: and I wasn't shocked because you saw that here the 542 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 5: first couple of days when we got the red zone look, 543 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 5: the ball's coming out. You know, he knows, he understands coverage, 544 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: you know who's open, and like just what you know 545 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 5: Fred alluded to earlier, you know when we was talking 546 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 5: about him. You know, he threw the ball away once, 547 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 5: throwing the terry, and he just knew, I'm gonna throw 548 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 5: this outside because I don't have time and guess what, say, 549 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 5: save myself for the next place you get to kick 550 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,239 Speaker 5: a field heal so, so yeah, I mean he's one 551 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 5: of those guys right now. 552 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 6: That's why I said that. 553 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 5: You know, it's not it's not a coincidence that he's 554 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 5: gotten the NOD, But you heard some of these whispers 555 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 5: from day one about how efficient he is, how precise 556 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 5: he is, and just he knows what to do before. 557 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, what, I gotta say this too. 558 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 4: Since we in the quarterback room, I got to get 559 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: Trace mcshare and some props coming off the couch that 560 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: was listen to me. I'm gonna get that guy some props. 561 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: Local kid here. Uh, that's hard to do, and I 562 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 4: don't care about him. 563 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: Knowing Cliff Kingsbury plate book, it's still hard to it's 564 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: hard to do to come in there and handle itself. 565 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 2: The way he handled hisself, and. 566 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: Let's be honest, we still almost won that game, like 567 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: we got the last drive to end the game. 568 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: Kudo to you, my friend. Not an easy thing to do. 569 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and anybody else telling you want to shout out 570 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: from the game that you thought stood out? 571 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 3: Oh man, what's the kid name is? 572 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 5: I just talked to about the safety Tyler? 573 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: Tyler Mer. 574 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: He's telling somebody you might need to get crank up 575 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 4: their U haul because I want a job. 576 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: Tyler Ones If I'm pretty sure he's probably gonna get 577 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 5: the run up, all the action this this next game. Yeah, 578 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,719 Speaker 5: if he can continue out, if he can finish this 579 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: game this preseason out the way he started with these 580 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 5: first two preseason games. Yep, go ahead and get him 581 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 5: his number one, whatever number he's who's going to not 582 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 5: be here. 583 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about Wiley? Michael Waller is running. 584 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 5: That he's arguably saying he's running back three already. 585 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: You know, he know he wants to see me. It 586 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 4: feels their way to me. So it's it's some guys 587 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 4: that's sticking out. Jamie Davis got his first second rushing 588 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: the passer. So it's guys out there making plays. Now, Man, 589 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: this is what I can say. It ain't not one guy. 590 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: Can I see him say, you know what, he's over 591 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: all head, just a bad, bad camp. 592 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: I don't think it's one guy on this team. I 593 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: can see him say that about. 594 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'd say Tyler Owens, McSorley, I'd say Dominic Campton, Luke. 595 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: McCaffrey, who made some play tough catches. Yeah. 596 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: Ben Sinnett has just shown up each and every game 597 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: in the pre season. 598 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 6: Give based some credits, sucking well the. 599 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: Businesm made the two wheels behead. Ain't that the truth? 600 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: Man? 601 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: Ain't that the truth? Yeah? So I think obviously we 602 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: talked about another guy that impressed me obviously, and he 603 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: impresses me every time he out there as Jade and Daniels. 604 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: This week they made the announcement that he will be 605 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: the number one quarterback. And I can speak for us 606 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: all when I'm saying we weren't very surprised by that. 607 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, But I think the question is why we 608 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: weren't surprised by it. 609 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 4: Probably because how he's carried himself like we could. We know, 610 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 4: because you drafted high, we ain't gonna just give you 611 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 4: the job. But how do these guys, carry hisself and 612 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: doing all the right things, pushing all the right buttons, 613 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: saying all the right things. We knew it was a 614 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: short time. And then I could always tell by talking 615 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 4: to your teammates. Because talking to his teammates the layed 616 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, they already. 617 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: Felt like he was destroyed. 618 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 4: So by them feeling like that, that tells me he 619 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 4: already earned their respect that half the battle. 620 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: It didn't shock me. 621 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: He's just ready, man. I mean, you look at it 622 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 3: from day one. 623 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 5: That's been the first thing everyone has said, from. 624 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 3: The first practice. 625 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: And I think also too, you know, you give a 626 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 5: little credit to the coaching staff for not forcing them 627 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 5: to go out there and say, well, this is your job. 628 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 5: Let's go, you know what I mean, take us to 629 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 5: the promise land. They allowed him to gradually go out 630 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 5: there and you know, go with the two sometime in 631 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 5: practice and get used to what he was seeing. 632 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: And I guess over time. 633 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 6: He just showed him like, hey, I'm a little ahead 634 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 6: of the curve. 635 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: So whenever you guys. 636 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 6: Ready, I'm ready, you know, get ready, I'm ready. 637 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 5: After that first preseason game and when he checked off 638 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 5: and he looked to the sideline and gave him that 639 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 5: little wink and gave him that point that tells you 640 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 5: you know where he's at, confident wise, you know, and 641 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 5: how he sees the game. And Terry's one of those guys. 642 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: He he speaks elegantly, and he's one of those guys 643 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 5: that just has been praising him left and right every 644 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 5: time he gets a chance to get in front of 645 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 5: that camera or the mic and just talk about how 646 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 5: he's ahead of his time when it comes to some 647 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 5: of the things that he's talking to him about, you know, 648 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 5: after practice, doing practice, some of the things he's seeing 649 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 5: and coverages the guys ready. So I'm just happy that, 650 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 5: you know, now we put that behind us and we 651 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 5: can move forward. 652 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and for me, I I agree, Tanna, Like the 653 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: coaching staff did a great job, you know, the composure 654 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: that he showed, the mature that he's shown. But every 655 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: single opportunity he's had, you know, mini camp, preseason, okay. 656 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: In practice the other team, he's. 657 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: He's just answered the call man. Yeah, like, oh, I 658 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: know this coverage, I know where the ball needs to go. 659 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: The foot speed that the physical talent has been on display, 660 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: mental talent's been on display, the leadership has been on display, 661 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 1: and you know, like, I got a lot of respect 662 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: for Marcus Marrio and now he's handled this process. But 663 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: to me, it was it was very obvious that he 664 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: was very, very talented football. 665 00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 6: I was. 666 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 4: I was at this question and I had to seriously 667 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: think about it. 668 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: You know, they say the. 669 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 4: Best quarterback class of our time is that eighty three class. 670 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: Which is that Marino Marino, all those guys. Uh? Could 671 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: this I. 672 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 4: Call this the old man class because this class has 673 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 4: started more starts than any quarterbacks in college history? Could 674 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 4: this be the best quarterback class of all time? 675 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: The new one? 676 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: What is it? 677 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four for this class with Kayle Williams Jaye 678 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: dalliels like, is this the best boat? 679 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: Nick's over there looking like the next coming to John Alway? 680 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: Could this be when we look back twenty years from now? 681 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, the best quarterback class. 682 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 5: It's a bit premature, but it tends to lead to 683 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 5: you saying, hey, I'm gonna keep my on it. Yes, 684 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 5: we don't know if all these guys are going to 685 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 5: probably you know, start, but they had more college starts 686 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 5: than any Yeah, that tradule waiting class. Eft, Like there's 687 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 5: a lot, and the one that had the less starts, 688 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 5: it's Drake May. Yeah, he's the one that's starting off 689 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 5: a little slow out the door, but he's starting to 690 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 5: catch it. 691 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 2: That tells you a lot. 692 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 3: To me, they got a lot of talent. 693 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, what I will tell you, Fred, is the 694 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: preseason a lot of you football. 695 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: I'm not I don't care what they do in the preseason. 696 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: I'm just talking about these guys and how many quality 697 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 4: starts they got, and they are processing the pro game 698 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: to me, a little faster than some quarterback because I've 699 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 4: seen Mark Sanchez coming here one one year, started in 700 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 4: usc and he's still trying to figure it out. While 701 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 4: he in the league. These guys were talking about COVID baby. 702 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 5: Say two when Mark Sanchez, those guys went to the 703 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 5: Division round. 704 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, two years back to back, two or three years 705 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 6: back to Judson. 706 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 707 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: So who knows? You know. 708 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is like, obviously the highlight 709 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: throws we've seen from this class or tremendous. But yeah, 710 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: I mean, think about Zach Wilson. 711 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: Soon, it's gonna be look like that dude in the preseason. 712 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: Remember, no, I never felt like he looked good in 713 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: the preseason and all of a sudden his made his 714 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: brain melted it. So I'm gonna wait till we see 715 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: some real football. 716 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: But you were seeing ghosts. Man, I'm with you, But 717 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: that happens. 718 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: Though, that happens. 719 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 2: I guess what how many years DoD Z that Wilson 720 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: start two? 721 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also j J McArthur good in the preseason start. 722 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 4: I'm a JJ believer, Like I believe what I seen 723 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 4: from j JJ threw the ball mode in one preseason 724 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 4: game and he threw his whole c. 725 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 2: And me, I'm a JJ believer. 726 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: Oh goodness me. Real quick question before we get off 727 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: of this. What is Marcus's role now that jameson starting? 728 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 4: Oh? 729 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: His role the same role he been held. I'm a nurturer. 730 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 4: I'm a pinioned I'm a teacher like he was, Like, 731 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: who better else to tell your Heisman winning number two 732 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 4: pick what's coming for him? And what the future hold then? 733 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 4: A former number two pick, a former Highland Trophy. Women, 734 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 4: some did they have been through that with the same 735 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 4: skill set he was brought here to be a teacher. 736 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: I wish I was a quarterbacker, could have been a 737 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: backup for like the last five years of my life 738 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: and just be here to be a teacher. That's the 739 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 4: only position that's get gifted that quarterbacks get gifted. 740 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: They ever tell you the story about me, this funny story. 741 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: So I was when I was in uh Atlanta, got 742 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: cut right and I was like, looking to resign. I 743 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: think I'm the only one here. He has been cut 744 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: more than once anyway, so kudos to me, well done. 745 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: They didn't do it. 746 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the but so I went to Houston and 747 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, you know, we want you to 748 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: kind of mentor some of the young guys. And I 749 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: am not kidding. All I did was practice and run 750 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: meetings with the young guys. That had two young guys 751 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: that were crazy talented. I never dressed for a game. 752 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: I took notes on the sideline, got paid veat minimum, 753 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: which at the time was it was a million bucks. 754 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: First of all, I would have loved in my career 755 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 4: doing it. 756 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 2: Like for defense, we don't get them. 757 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: I never I never even heard anything like that. Like 758 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: I would run meetings with the young guys. I'd stay, 759 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: I get there early, we'd meet, we'd go through practice review, 760 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: I'd meet after practice, we'd walk through some stuff and 761 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: that's all I did. 762 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: No pressure on Sunday. No pressure, That's what I said. 763 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 4: Like the backup quarterback position, it's the best position. Yeah 764 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 4: in football, all right, we don't need you till we 765 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: need you. You play probably six games and ten years low. 766 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: Would you bought those six games? You got a twelve 767 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 4: year career most of that. 768 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: Teaching love that though. 769 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 5: I mean mine was similar to that my last year 770 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 5: because they didn't really want me to practice with the 771 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 5: scout team. 772 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: But you know me, my hard head behind, like you. 773 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 5: Even have me out here on the New York Yeah, 774 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 5: just not doing anything to go practice with the scout team. 775 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: And then week six he's like, oh, well I dropped 776 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 5: the ball on each out there. 777 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I checked out. I just went and 778 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 2: got a sleeve on my leg. 779 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 6: I'm ready to go ahead and go to the offseason. 780 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 5: But no, I mean no, I would have loved that position, 781 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 5: you know, as far as just being a veteran knowing 782 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 5: that you know, hey, I can just get a check 783 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 5: and coach these little ones up, you. 784 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: Know, yeah, because I will say the job in football, 785 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: it was. It was pretty sweet. 786 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: But so yeah, I think you know again, like when 787 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: he comes on the sideline for the game doing the 788 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: radio stuff. When when Jayden comes off, like Marcus is 789 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: right there like he's got the book and he's talking 790 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: there and stuff, and so I think that's exactly what 791 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: it is. It's a guy he can win you some 792 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: games if something happens. 793 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 5: I was gonna say that Marcus is a guy that's 794 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 5: proven that that he still can play, you know, and. 795 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: You know, don't have to change the playbook. 796 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have to change. 797 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 5: And then you get like a guy that knows the 798 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 5: offense and that we I guess you could say the 799 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 5: coaching staff can trust to say, at worst, he can 800 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 5: go out there and run us. You know we can, 801 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 5: we can run them. We can run this whole playbook 802 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 5: with him. 803 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying is drift school too. It 804 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: looks that way. Yeah. 805 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's played like everyone that's oh, Jeff driscoll, 806 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: he's played NFL. 807 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 4: He's a very good backup, and he's a guy that 808 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 4: I don't think I ever seen him play like. I 809 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: got to see him play preseason game out to seen 810 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 4: him fill in for guys and he always plays well 811 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: like he's one of those guys that, like, I just 812 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 4: can't cut Jeff Driscoll. 813 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 5: You don't understand how valuable the backup quarterback is in 814 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 5: this league though, you know what I mean. 815 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: You see what the Cleveland Browns did. 816 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 5: They had a guy who the guy name was. He 817 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 5: played here one year, Josh Jones after Chase Daniels. Yeah, 818 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 5: Chase thing's been a backup and getting big money changed 819 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 5: down in time. 820 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 2: Didn't really rob the bank. Yes, he is. 821 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 5: A valuable backup, Like you get him in the game 822 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 5: and he can throw the ball, he can run your offense. 823 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 5: I mean, so it's one of those situations we've seen. 824 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 5: There have been years where like multiple starting quarterbacks went down. 825 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: Last year, you know what I mean, Tim Starter's guy. 826 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 2: Think about it. 827 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 4: The Browns signed James Winston and they signed Hunt from Baltimore. 828 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 4: They making sure, yeah got somebody, they got somebody in 829 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 4: the house. 830 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: The other thing about the backup quarterback, and people don't 831 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: maybe know about this, but like they help get the. 832 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: Quarterback ready to go. 833 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: So when I was in Atlanta, so Matt Ryan was 834 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 1: a starter, Matt Shot was the backup from Newton, and 835 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: so they'd get in on Tuesday morning. I'm not kidding 836 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: like five thirty and they and Shot would do like 837 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: red zone breakdown for the week. Matt would do first 838 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: and second down. The third string guy would do I forget, 839 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: maybe two minutes and then they'd come in and they 840 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: would give the reports to Matt and then Matt would 841 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: take the reports to the head coaching staff. 842 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 6: Right. 843 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: So getting two guys who've been it, have done it, 844 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: can help support your quarterback, I think is extremely important. Now, 845 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: last thing I want I asked about this before we 846 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: move on, is is this important for the team to 847 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: know who the starting quarterback is? Because you look at 848 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: like a team like New England for example, No, no, yeah, 849 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: and they've said no, does it matter. I've been I've 850 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: been a part of teams that have done it both ways. 851 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:50,439 Speaker 1: I just wanted to get. 852 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 3: Down a little bit. 853 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 5: But I think honestly, you know, when it comes down 854 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 5: to you want the guys that's going to be playing 855 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 5: with that got to know. But I think these guys 856 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 5: kind of new you know what I mean, you're here 857 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 5: that Yeah it was. It wasn't addressed, I guess publicly, 858 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 5: but those guys on that staff new, like, hey man, 859 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 5: this didn't. 860 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 2: He's the real dead. Yeah. 861 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 4: But I think it just get an elephant after room, 862 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: like the elephant after room after building. 863 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: He the man, let's move on to the next thing. 864 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: I was just saying because it gets guys like us 865 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: not talking about it, you know what I'm saying. In season, 866 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: we'd be talking about it if we're going right up 867 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: to the thing, and then the players get asked about it. 868 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: It's just like, hey, man, we're all down with this. 869 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: This is the starter. 870 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: Here you go. 871 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 4: If you don't answer this question, now, we got to 872 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,479 Speaker 4: keep answering the question why, like and I can't fill in. 873 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 2: The why all the time. So that's what it does. 874 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: It literally takes the why. 875 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 5: And that also allows those guys who fight for that 876 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 5: second and third job to really now know that this 877 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 5: is where. 878 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: This is where I got it, this. 879 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 5: Is where you know where the the ball lies. Basically 880 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 5: for me, I got to go out here this last 881 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 5: preseason game and I'm fighting to the end for this second. 882 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: And third year, and I'm putting on some feel for 883 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 2: somebody else either. 884 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that's a really nice segue. Do you 885 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 1: do that on purpose? 886 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: Oh? It's good. 887 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: It's a good segue into our next segment, which is 888 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: the third preseason game, and obviously we're playing the Patriots 889 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: who haven't declared a starter. Let's start with our team. 890 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: What is the expectation for us? I think you kind 891 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: of already alluded to it. And what do you want 892 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: to see in the third pieces? Like I don't think. 893 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't think Jane Dane's gonna play? 894 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 895 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 2: For what does Marcus play? 896 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: Probably not right? 897 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: He's a market because be drisl and Trace mcsword. 898 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 899 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: Do you think is Sam Harman going to be healthy 900 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: by that? 901 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 902 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: I forgot about I don't know. 903 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: That would be nice if Sam got a little burned 904 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: because he knows the offense really well. 905 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 4: No, he does, and he looked poised out there. He 906 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 4: looks like, you know, it's something to him, you know. 907 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: Because they've they've talked about him in press conferences saying 908 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: basically like they love his composers. 909 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 5: I hope that he's one of those guys that we 910 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 5: can see as a second or third guy. 911 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 3: But it's a tough it's. 912 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: A tough quarter, right. You can bring him back as 913 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 2: the practice quad. Yeah, yeah, you can bring him back. 914 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I think Driscoll and Hartman if if that's 915 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: what they decided to do. Could be practice squad because 916 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: you couln ele of one of those guys. Yeah, because 917 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: it could be a Vegrian, right, And so I think 918 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: that that'll be really interesting. But yeah, I think what 919 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: we're watching for in this third game is I don't 920 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: think Jane's gonna play. I don't think anybody who's gonna 921 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: make the roster. 922 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: Nobody's playing. Were not going to play. 923 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 2: Guy's not gonna play. So they might be trying to 924 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 2: troubleshoot a position and like we. 925 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: Need more riff to see who won is like like, 926 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: like what position you got an example. 927 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 4: That defensive line de tackle to be pacific? Yeah, all right, 928 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 4: that's a log jam. Yeah, where they like we can't 929 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 4: just close eyes and pick y'all play for Darien matthis 930 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 4: play your way out through here. 931 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: And we didn't talk about this, but the big Phil 932 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: played well in this last game, like this the best 933 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: I've seen him play, and like that, to me, I 934 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: was like, Phil is gonna be gone. Don't know what 935 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna do it now. All of a sudden, I'm like, shoot, 936 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: he's he's in the race. You know what I'm saying. 937 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 4: Think about it. If I'm for Dari and Mathis. I 938 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 4: want to play. If I'm Chris rod Reevez, I want 939 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 4: to play, If I'm Cole Turner, I want to play. 940 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: Like it's some guys on here. 941 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 5: It's a lot of guys that going, yeah, they're playing, 942 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 5: but we're talking about the main guys, the guys that's 943 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 5: going to that that first twenty two ain't playing. 944 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 4: I would say, out of the wire receiver, that a 945 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 4: crazy story for you about I would say, out. 946 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 2: Of the wire receivers, I just see Terry being the 947 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: only one that not playing. So no about that. 948 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: So when I was so when I was in Atlanta 949 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: in two thousand, must have been seventeen that season that offseason, 950 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: anybody who they thought was going to make the team. 951 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm talking forty five dudes did not dress for this 952 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: last preseason like the Rams do this saying Fran does this, 953 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: Like basically, if you are in that mix for that 954 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: starting thing there, like you're not going to play. And 955 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 1: so I wonder if it's even deeper than we think. 956 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: It's like the too deep, you know what I'm saying. 957 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: And then it's just a couple extra guys, not. 958 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 4: With the free ages we have, not with the new coaches. 959 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 4: I just think it's too new to be comfortable, like 960 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 4: to be comfortable. 961 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we could be surprised too, So you never know, 962 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 3: you know. 963 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: But I would I would think that more people than 964 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: you think won't play meeting those position battles that we're 965 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: talking about. If you do see big field playing like 966 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: he's on the line, safety playing right like they're on 967 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: the line, and like that's the last data point because 968 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: it's only going to be a couple of guys. 969 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: Yea, even if even if it's just the starters. 970 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 5: What I look at it too, man, and I ain't 971 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 5: trying to go out there and throw them on in 972 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 5: the bus, but you look at certain positions might need 973 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 5: more says that it's real. Some starters that didn't play 974 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 5: a lot in the first game played a little bit 975 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 5: last week and then then didn't turn out. We didn't 976 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 5: turn out well, so you never know, they might get 977 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 5: thrown out there for another quarter for another series. 978 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 2: So de tackle room is packed. 979 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 6: You heard it from me, but you know the safety room. 980 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 2: Is also packed. 981 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 4: Yeah all right, so if you default, you won't if 982 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 4: you Butler. 983 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 2: I think Percy's in what do you think. 984 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 5: Special teams too? I don't I think he brings them 985 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 5: to the table special teams. 986 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: Was he's looked good, he's at a good preceston safety room. 987 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's safe to me. 988 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the reasons why they're moving 989 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: to your point where they move Dominicqumpton the linebacker in 990 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 1: addition to injuries and the guy who played well. 991 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 6: And it's a little crazy how I saw. 992 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 5: I saw who we thought was going to probably be 993 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 5: a starter, and up he played longer in the second 994 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 5: half at corner. And that's your boy, Mike David kind 995 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 5: of like oh man, but still a right now, like 996 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 5: he's a starter at the corner. Yeah, and playing pretty well. 997 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,840 Speaker 2: Know, just playing with that consisty. I keep saying, run Dave, Bob. 998 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: I guess what we're saying here kind of a round 999 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: about ways. You want to see the final touches of 1000 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 1: the roster. Yeah, and this is your opportunity, your last 1001 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: opportunity if you're a player like I played in this 1002 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: game almost every year of my career. 1003 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is play too. 1004 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: It's the last one you got for one or two, 1005 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, last one you got. So 1006 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: let's make it work. Let's make it happen, and then 1007 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: let's talk about are we expecting to see Drake may 1008 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: I think that's another Oh. 1009 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, we go see Drake May. We only a quarterback. 1010 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 4: No, because I heard Mayo say, Jacob said he is playing. Really, 1011 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 4: they're going to play their staughters. 1012 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: So do you think if they play their starters, will 1013 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: play our shorter. 1014 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 4: No, We're not finna match their stink. The thing about 1015 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 4: it is they understand. 1016 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: I like how you said they stink because they held 1017 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 1: their starters out in seventeen and now they stink because 1018 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: they're playing their starters. 1019 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 4: No, they playing, they still cause they don't even know 1020 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 4: who start. That's why they playing. They like they at 1021 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 4: rock bottom, rock meat Bottle, that's where they and they're 1022 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 4: just trying to understand where they're at. So I can 1023 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 4: see Joe, Jacoby said, playing and think about this, Joe 1024 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 4: Milton been playing very good. Like they got an RG 1025 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 4: three Kirk Cousin situation over there. So if I'm a 1026 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 4: defensive court now, I'm like, I'm happy to see these 1027 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 4: three quarterback. 1028 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 2: That's a good test for my younger guy. I will say. 1029 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 1: The Joe Milton thing, the Kirk Cousins comparison, he's not 1030 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 1: quite there yet, but I think he's shown enough where 1031 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: I'd put a package in for him, like kind of 1032 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: like a tayso some hell like short yard or something. 1033 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 4: So, but what you're saying is you he'll end up 1034 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 4: playing some plays before Kurty because Kurt had to wait. 1035 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kurt had to wait. So that's that's how I 1036 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: would do it. I've always thought of that. Like coaching 1037 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 1: high school football is totally changed my perspective on this. 1038 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: If you were really dialed in and you had a 1039 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: guy like Joe Milton, it's hard to find guys like 1040 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: Joe Melton, and you put in like a wildcat package 1041 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 1: with it like a small, like heavy package where it's 1042 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: like he can run and there's a couple of passes 1043 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: option to maximize your short yardage and steal first downs. 1044 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: I think there's something to that. 1045 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 2: It's something to that because now we are forced as 1046 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 2: a defense prep to prep. 1047 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 3: Now get you're. 1048 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 4: Taking time away for much worrying about Drake May. Yeah, 1049 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 4: and we got worried about this dude. And every time 1050 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 4: we see him come in there, first thing will come 1051 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 4: to your head. They find run it with him, you know, 1052 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 4: will we not? 1053 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1054 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: And you get you don't get man coverage. Yes, he's 1055 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: got a win, man, he just picked your matchup throw. 1056 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: That he could throw nine yards with that looking he's 1057 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 2: a beast. 1058 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the New England quarterback battle is interesting. 1059 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: Like Drake May Perseett. I mean, I expect for Sett 1060 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: to absolutely deal in the fourth ree season game against 1061 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of backups. 1062 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 2: But I just we know eventually this's Drake May's job. 1063 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 2: But Drake May look good the last game. But does it? 1064 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: But is it indicative of something that they haven't declared 1065 00:42:59,640 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: it yet? 1066 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it's just good. 1067 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dacobe's good man. 1068 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacobley. But at one point. 1069 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 5: When the season is old, I mean, going with your 1070 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 5: young quarterback with a team that's not complete. 1071 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you gotta go and let him get used 1072 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 2: to it at one point eventually put him in the game. 1073 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 3: Eventually, but not not the first couple of weeks, I 1074 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 3: don't think. 1075 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. All right, let's do the game predictions. 1076 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 2: Now. 1077 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: This is an unusual game prediction because we're not predicting 1078 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: a score. We're not get going to predict who's gonna 1079 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 1: be are you? 1080 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's score school is going to be twenty nine 1081 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:34,720 Speaker 4: to twenty, boy line twenty Yeah, twenty nine to twenty. 1082 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,760 Speaker 4: How we gonna get to twenty? 1083 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. Jason's like sure whatever, Yeah, twenty nine 1084 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 2: to twenty. 1085 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 4: That's gonna be the preseason score, the last preseason game. 1086 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1087 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: So obviously Fred's predicting a score. I'm just predicting, like I, 1088 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: this is like where I want to see the Chris Rodriguez, 1089 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: the Bryson Tremaine. Yeah, you know, the Bennet Puttie. 1090 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: The uh oh, I've been saying his name wrong. 1091 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: How do you say? 1092 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: I don't say potato, I say, I say it, don't. 1093 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: Say mess me up? 1094 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1095 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: Oh god, this guy, you shann't say Andre Andre but 1096 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: Andre but Jamon Davis. Those kind of guys, those like 1097 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 1: fringe roster guys, guys that have had good either offseason 1098 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: practices or have been the little blackluster or switching positions. 1099 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: This is all the chips are in. If you put 1100 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 1: your stamp on and say I played well in this game, 1101 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 1: I deserve it. Like there's five dudes, five dudes, Tanna 1102 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: that'll make the team off this game. You think six dudes, 1103 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: maybe six, six, seven dudes, six seven dudes. 1104 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 5: This game is always interesting to me because I think 1105 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 5: you get you get a chance to see those kids 1106 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 5: from college that just go out there and look, they 1107 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 5: had nothing to lose, so they're going to probably put 1108 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 5: up points. 1109 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 3: So I say it'd be a fourteen thirteen game. 1110 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 2: I called this the Victor Cruz time of the year. Yeah, 1111 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 2: you love that. 1112 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 4: I love it because I've seen this dude come in 1113 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 4: and they like, he ain't gonna make the team and 1114 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 4: he ended up being a number one receiver. 1115 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 2: How many times did that happen. 1116 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Like that's his story. I remember 1117 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,040 Speaker 1: playing against him. I was that was my rookie year 1118 00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: and he was with the Jets just being like, who 1119 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: the heck is that guy? Yeah, and everyone's like, oh, 1120 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: it's Cruise and like no one knew who it was 1121 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: like doing had any context for it. 1122 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, they were doing the salsa for years afterday. Yeah. 1123 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: So that's my one thought on that is just make it, dude, 1124 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: if you're close, make a pushkas Allen return a kick, 1125 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: somebody do something. Let's make it happen and. 1126 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 4: Uh Brian make a play. That's who I'm pulling it. Brian, Yeah, 1127 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 4: my tab is Brian. Oh yeah, go make a play. 1128 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: I got a funny story about the fourth preseason game, 1129 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: which this is like replacing it. 1130 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 2: It sounds like nineteen eighty three. 1131 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: I remember I came in with d Y, the fullback there, 1132 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: all young, and we're gonna watch a little bit of 1133 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 1: film of we were playing Arizona and we're getting ready 1134 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: to sit down, and Bobby Turner remember the old running 1135 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: back though, He goes, what the hell you guys doing 1136 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: in here? And we're like, oh, we're just getting ready 1137 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: for the Arizona game. He's like, no, I gotta watch 1138 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: film of whoever the Week one opponent is. You guys 1139 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: gotta get the hell out. 1140 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 2: Of what you're doing in here. That love possible hell 1141 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: out of here. 1142 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,240 Speaker 1: Get you're not gonna make the team, Get out, shoot 1143 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: sho shoo shoo. 1144 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 5: I remember we cut d Y as a linebacker and 1145 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 5: brought him back as a full back. 1146 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: He crushed it. Man, did he come here as a football. 1147 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 3: Line back from Vos playing linebacker? 1148 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 2: Bro I did not know that he left. 1149 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 5: I was like, man, the dude has so much potential, 1150 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 5: Like you know, you saw him fly around. I didn't 1151 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 5: watch him, you know, you know, as a linebacker, but 1152 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 5: you saw him fly. He became a robot. Knew that 1153 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 5: room was kind of packed. But when he came back 1154 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 5: as a full back, I'm like, I didn't even know 1155 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 5: he had that inny, like quarterback you put pressure on 1156 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 5: because I think I think Mike was his still Instantly he. 1157 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: Was like, oh no, they're saying a lot of goals 1158 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 4: the blueprint there with. 1159 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 3: A full back. He's young and hungry, you know. 1160 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 5: And you know Waller was at the end d wash 1161 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 5: smashing heads like he didn't care, you know what I mean. 1162 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 2: So wow, that's good to know. 1163 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: So who's gonna be the this year's d Y. Who's 1164 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna be this year's Victor Cruz? I can't wait to 1165 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: find out. This is the I have a lot of 1166 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: love in my heart for this game. I'm gonna watch 1167 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: it very closely because this is where some dreams are made, 1168 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: and this is the last this is the last time 1169 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: some people are ever gonna play football. So that's gonna 1170 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,280 Speaker 1: do it for today's show. Thanks ver much for for watching. 1171 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: We always appreciate the support. 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