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Speaker 1: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We have

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Speaker 1: got a loaded program for you. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: with our friend Julie Kelly in the next hour. She

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Speaker 1: is down in South Florida, I believe, following the latest

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Speaker 1: on the Eileen Cannon, sorry, the Eileen Cannon the case

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Speaker 1: that has to do with with the class line documents. Yes,

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Speaker 1: mar A Lago documents that is proceeding there. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about that shortly. Jim Jordan, you might have

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Speaker 1: mentioned heard us mentioning yesterday that we were going to

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Speaker 1: be talking with him. We taped with him in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. Yesterday, shared a couple of those clips on

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Speaker 1: social media already. But he will be with us in

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Speaker 1: the third hour. But I want to dive right in

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Speaker 1: to what Julie Kelly reported yesterday in the mar A

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Speaker 1: Lago classified documents case.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a.

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Speaker 1: Huge dealericularly because Merrick Garland, Attorney General of the United States,

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Speaker 1: took complete responsibility for this raid and said he directly

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Speaker 1: signed off on it the FBI. And I'm reading from

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Speaker 1: Julie Kelly's tweet as well as the attachment for that filing,

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Speaker 1: the FBI authorized the use of deadly force at mar Lago,

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Speaker 1: and the particular pertinent part says law enforcement officers of

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary.

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Speaker 1: Now some are saying, well, this is how all FBI

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Speaker 1: raids are typically handled from a order perspective. Sorry, I'm

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Speaker 1: not accepting that as a valid reason why this should

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Speaker 1: have happened. If Merrick Garland had been applying any reasonable

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Speaker 1: intelligence here, he would have recognized that this is a

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Speaker 1: raid on like any other that has ever been conducted

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Speaker 1: in the history of the United States. Former sitting president,

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Speaker 1: you are raiding a Secret Service protected location. You and

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Speaker 1: I Buck have been through mar A Lago many times.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: You are in a secure location. You can't just walk

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Speaker 1: in with a gun. The only people that are armed

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Speaker 1: at mar A Lago are Secret Service agents. So when

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Speaker 1: you tell the FBI as a part of their raid

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Speaker 1: you can use deadly force if necessary, you are permitting

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Speaker 1: them to be able to kill someone during the course

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Speaker 1: of this classified document raid. And what I would say

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Speaker 1: in general is here, if Merrick Garland was truly trying

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Speaker 1: to be as safe as he possibly could, you tell me, Buck,

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Speaker 1: why do any of these FBI agents need to be

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Speaker 1: armed when they are conducting a search inside of a

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Speaker 1: Secret Service protected location, when they are notifying the Secret

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Speaker 1: Service that they are coming. The idea that you would

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Speaker 1: And it just feels like the FBI is actually super

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Speaker 1: fortunate that there wasn't some sort of violent act that

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Speaker 2: Well a few things here. One is that cops generally

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Speaker 2: don't feel like cops if they're not carrying guns. So

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Speaker 2: you're not going to get police or FBI or whatever

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Speaker 2: to usually walk around and do their jobs if they're

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Speaker 2: not armed. The armed part of it, I don't find.

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Speaker 2: I would assume that FBI guys are armed. The inclusion

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Speaker 2: I can tell you this much. It certainly seems strange

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Speaker 2: to Donald Trump himself. He put this out on truth

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Speaker 2: Social Wow. I just came out of the Biden witch

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Speaker 2: on trial in Manhattan the Ice Box and was showing

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Speaker 2: reports that Crooked Joe Biden's DOJ and their illegal and

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Speaker 2: unconstitutional rate of mar A Lago authorized the FBI to

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Speaker 2: use deadly lethal force. Now we know for sure that

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden is a serious threat to democracy. He is

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Speaker 2: mentally unfit to hold off his twenty fifth Amendment. He's

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Speaker 2: straight up calling for the twenty fifth Amendment right now,

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Speaker 2: which is a very you know, that's a flourish at

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the truth post here. Look the fact

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Speaker 2: that they allowed this to happen at all, and the

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Speaker 2: the papers in a way that was meant to make

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Speaker 2: it seem like ominous classified stuff was being found. I mean, Clay,

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Speaker 2: the abuse of the Department of Justice that has occurred

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Speaker 2: as part of the election interference from Democrats, it's not

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Speaker 2: just unprecedented, it's game changing. Unfortunately, I think that we've

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that they will have their explanations for why.

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Speaker 2: They'll say it was just procedure, or they'll say it's,

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Speaker 2: Like to anybody who was involved in preparing any documents

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Speaker 2: extreme this weaponization and this law fair really is. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're treating Donald Trump like a criminal. He has not

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Speaker 2: been proven guilty of a single crime. The crimes they're

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Speaker 2: alleging he committed don't even seem like crimes to any

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Speaker 2: normal person. They're stacking the deck against him, They're holding

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Speaker 2: the prosecutions until the election. And all of this is

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Speaker 2: based on the premise that we already know that he's

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Speaker 2: the bad guy. There's no presumption of innocence for a

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I understand your position of the FBI agents

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Speaker 1: expect to be armed. I actually think that Merrik Garland,

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Speaker 1: we're about to play the audio for you, should have said,

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Speaker 1: FBI agents are going in unarmed here, because what is

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Speaker 1: the danger? Most all FBI raids require that you go

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Speaker 1: into a place that you probably are not aware of

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Speaker 1: how secure it is. Mar A Lago is one of

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Speaker 1: the most secure locations on the planet.

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Speaker 2: The Secret Service is there and they are armed.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even want them to have weapons where this

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Speaker 1: actually be concerned that the FBI and the Secret Service,

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Speaker 1: which they notified, that there could be some conflict there.

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Speaker 1: Now I understand your point of the FBI agents always

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Speaker 1: want to be armed, but if you're rating a completely

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Speaker 1: So certainly don't understand. So we can disagree on that

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I certainly don't understand how if you're

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Speaker 1: Merit Garland and you're reading this warrant you can authorize

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Speaker 1: the use of deadly force at all, Like that language

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Speaker 1: has to be taken out of the document and you

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Speaker 1: two different parts of the government as it pertains to

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Speaker 2: I would want to know, uh, what, what is the

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Speaker 2: scenario in which Merrick Garland thinks deadly force is going

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Speaker 2: to be authorized? Like one of Trump's groundskeepers is going

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Speaker 2: for it to one of the yachts park nearby mar

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Speaker 2: A Lago, and they're going to have to just take

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Speaker 2: him down. First of all, they wouldn't be authorized under

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Speaker 2: normal circumstances to shoot him there. Well under under what

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Speaker 2: you know, under what possibility could you see lethal force

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Speaker 1: Point on even having them a market is crazy. Well,

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Speaker 1: but I mean the cops are armed. You know, they're

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Speaker 1: pretty much armed all the time, right, I mean they

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Speaker 1: but they never raid the former president of the United

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Speaker 1: usually you're going in where there could be danger, buck

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Speaker 1: what would have been now they tried to time make

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, trust me, they'll have a million

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Speaker 2: ways to expect. Whether service is there is why I'm

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Speaker 2: coming back to it. But what would have happened they

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Speaker 2: tried to time this raid so Trump wasn't there. What

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Speaker 2: if somebody was there in the family and just refused access.

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Speaker 2: What if Milania had been there and she doesn't want

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Speaker 2: and says no, and listen to America. This is all

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Speaker 2: so much of.

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Speaker 1: The problems that you find yourself in are a function

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Speaker 1: of all of the choices that you make. And Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 1: basically he's hired for his judgment. The fact that he

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Speaker 1: The fact that he would sign off on an arm

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Speaker 1: And if you're out there saying, well, Merrick Garland wasn't

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Speaker 1: really involved in this, he came out and said he

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Speaker 3: Federal law, long standing department rules, and our ethical obligations

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Speaker 3: prevent me from providing further details as to the basis

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Speaker 3: of the search at this time. There are, however, certain

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Speaker 3: points I want you to know. First, I personally approved

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Speaker 3: the decision to seek a search warrant in this matter. Second,

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Speaker 3: the Department does not take such a decision lightly where

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Speaker 3: possible in a standard practice to seek less intrusive means

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Speaker 3: as an alternative to a search, and to narrowly scope

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Speaker 1: I just I look at this and I already knew,

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Speaker 1: and I think you did two buck that the rig

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Speaker 1: job was in here. But the more details that come

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Speaker 1: she's just basically applying the law pretty evenly, it seems

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Speaker 1: to me and every one of these filings, and we'll

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Democrats who are behind all of

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Speaker 2: this is increasingly seen as a meaning the stuff they

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Speaker 2: you know, all that stuff, that it alone becomes an

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Speaker 2: entirely reasonable explanation for a vote for Don Trump to

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Speaker 2: be president again, because otherwise this wins. Otherwise this is acceptable.

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Speaker 2: What has gone on here, and so you know, we

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Speaker 2: could talk about the economy and the wide open border,

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Speaker 2: and we do all these other things. When you look

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Speaker 2: But I'm saying this has now created almost a solo

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Speaker 2: issue or a single issue voter paradigm where if you

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Speaker 2: a country where elections are rigged by the prosecutor's office,

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Speaker 2: you vote for Donald Trump. I don't think they anticipated

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Speaker 2: that that feeling is out there as strongly as it is.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? And I do think it's important to

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Speaker 1: try to apply principle and precedent and contemplate it. If

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Speaker 1: Trump had authorized the FBI to have an armed raid,

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Speaker 1: using deadly force when necessary, of Barack Obama's personal residents

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Speaker 1: to try to go get classified documents that he believed

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Speaker 1: or stored there, the media would have I mean, he

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Speaker 1: would have been impeached. I don't think there's any doubt

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Speaker 1: at all he would have been impeached for this.

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Speaker 2: There would have been an impedn removed, impeached and removed.

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Speaker 2: I think Republicans would go along with it. I think

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Speaker 2: he actually would have been taken out of office.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're wrong, because I would like to think

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Speaker 1: that Republicans would be you wouldn't get to sixty seven

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Speaker 2: But you may well be right. If Trump ordered a

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Speaker 2: the moment that you start to unpack that or peel

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Speaker 2: it's also worth noting, and our friend Molly Hemingway pointed

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Speaker 2: this out that there were people within the FBI, and

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Speaker 2: this has already been reported on, who were like, what

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Speaker 2: are you doing? Why are we having a raid like this.

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Speaker 2: This is insane. I mean there was that there were

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Speaker 2: voices even within the FBI who have been reported on

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Speaker 2: an honestly anonymously saying that this is unnecessary and could

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Speaker 2: cause huge problems.

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Speaker 6: Exactly. And there were transcripts released by the House who

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Speaker 6: had interviewed the Stephen d'antwano and other two were sort

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Speaker 6: of pushing back on how this went down. But eventually,

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Speaker 6: you know, Stephen d'antoino is how to the Washington Field

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Speaker 6: office they signed off on this, and it's so I

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Speaker 6: do think again, we're going to find out more information.

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Speaker 6: Was their pre planning, where was the training?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: And now we know that the evidence that they collected

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Speaker 6: is not in its original form. It has been spoiled

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Speaker 6: in many aspects. So this was not even a successful raid.

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Speaker 6: This was a bungled rate.

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Speaker 2: And what did they do, Julie, because this has already

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Speaker 2: come out. They they've they've messed with the evidence they collected.

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Speaker 2: I mean you mentioned the cover sheets. Is there anything else?

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Speaker 6: Well? Yes, Now Jack Smith had to admit in a

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Speaker 6: filing a few weeks ago that the boxes they took

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Speaker 6: out I think they took like thirty Sumid boxes out

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Speaker 6: of mar A Lago. But the files, the evidence inside

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Speaker 6: is not in the same sequence that it was when

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Speaker 6: they took it from mar A Lago. This is very

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Speaker 6: important because you're allegedly they were supposed to demonstrate that

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Speaker 6: there's classified files mixed in with you know, newspapers, et cetera. Well,

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Speaker 6: they had to admit that it's not in the same sequence. Furthermore,

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Speaker 6: and even more suspicious here is they also had to

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Speaker 6: admit to Judge Cannon that these placeholder sheets that they

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Speaker 6: brought us props which we talked about attaching to files,

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Speaker 6: kicking a picture making it look like that's how they

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Speaker 6: were filed, that's how they were found. These placeholder sheets

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Speaker 6: where they put in they took an alleged classified document,

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Speaker 6: put a placeholder in. Jack Smith just had to admit

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Speaker 6: they can't match up in every instance the placeholder sheet

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Speaker 6: with the classified document that was taken out of the box.

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Speaker 6: So this is a bungled investigation, a dangerous investigation, unprecedented,

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Speaker 6: and things could have gotten a lot worse than they

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Speaker 6: actually did. And you actually sort of have to credit

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump for not flying down there and you know,

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Speaker 6: doing protecting his property and certainly the bedrooms of his

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Speaker 6: wife and his side which also were ransacked, and we

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Speaker 6: have evidence of that yesterday as well.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Julie Kelly. Eileen Cannon, the judge in

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Speaker 1: South Florida, seems to be doing a really incredible job

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Speaker 1: unveiling all of this. I know that you have been

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Speaker 1: covering more than almost anyone, all of these documents that

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Speaker 1: are being filed. And as the story has grown, unless

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Speaker 1: it has gotten classified, where is this case going now? In

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Speaker 1: your mind? Where is Judge Cannon headed? What should we

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Speaker 1: expect as it pertains to the classified documents case in particular.

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Speaker 6: Well, what I've written is that she has now turned

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Speaker 6: the tables and she is putting Jack Smith in the

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Speaker 6: DOJ on trial. And today I'm here. There's two hearings today.

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Speaker 6: A motion to dismiss for selective vindictive prosecution filed by

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Speaker 6: Trump longtime aid Personal Aid while tein Nada, who is

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Speaker 6: a co defendant. So there was a few hour hearing

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Speaker 6: on that this morning. This afternoon there's another hearing for

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Speaker 6: emotion to dismiss based on falsehoods contained in the fortia

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Speaker 6: But I'll tell you guys, there is no love lost

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Speaker 6: between Judge Cannon and the prosecution team. They got into

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Speaker 6: it a couple times this morning. At one point, Judge

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Speaker 6: Cannon had to tell David Harbach, one of Jackson's prosecutors,

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Speaker 6: to calm down. He is disrespectful, he is condescending. At

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Speaker 6: one point, she asked him a question, and he said

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Speaker 6: to her, that's not the right question.

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Speaker 1: Holy again, that ain't good to say to any woman,

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Speaker 1: by the way, Julie, much less the judge who was

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Speaker 1: in charge of your trial. That ain't the right question.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't go well with Laura Travis. And she's not sitting

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Speaker 1: at the top of the bench either.

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Speaker 6: There were gaps in the media room when he said

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Speaker 6: that he's trying to school now. She is extremely meticulous,

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Speaker 6: extremely informed, extremely well prepared when she comes to these hearings,

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Speaker 6: and he does his best to try to school her

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Speaker 6: on things that she are already knows because he's putting

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Speaker 6: on a performance. He knows this case is imploding. So

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Speaker 6: what he has to do is act indignant, you know,

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Speaker 6: when he's doing his rebuttal to this motion, and you know,

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Speaker 6: you can just see the tension there between the judge

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Speaker 6: and Jetmith. But how this is going forward is she

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Speaker 6: is entertaining. Not only is she unseiling and posting all

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Speaker 6: of this information that the government for the most part

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Speaker 6: doesn't want us to see, she is now holding all

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Speaker 6: of these hearings where then it will be publicly vetted,

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Speaker 6: including hearings next month which I'll be covering this bombshell

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Speaker 6: motion that accuses of Biden, White House, the General Counsel

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Speaker 6: of the White House, and National Archives BOJ and FBI

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Speaker 6: of colluding together as basically right after Donald Trump left

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Speaker 6: the Oval Office to concut some sort of documents crime

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Speaker 6: against Donald Trump. So she's really turning the tables and

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Speaker 6: that's why you could see this frustration from the prosecution

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Speaker 2: Than you real quick, Julie, before we got to go,

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Speaker 2: do you think that the is there any real legal

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Speaker 2: legal jeopard in your mind from the Florida case still

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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump? No, yeah, sounds like it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's and Clay and I haven't seeing it that way

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Speaker 2: for a while. So if you're on that on that

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Speaker 2: Check out declassified with Julie Kelly, Julie, let us know

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Speaker 2: the next time you want to blow up the Internet

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Speaker 2: with findings, will definitely.

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Speaker 6: Have you back on I definitely will. Thanks guys, Thank.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in replay Travis bock Sexton Show. I told

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Speaker 1: you guys yesterday as we finished the Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 1: the program that he had walked into studio here in

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Speaker 1: d C. And so we are taping this on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: but we're playing it for you now on Wednesday. Congressman

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, who the heck knows what might happen in

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Speaker 1: the next twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest, but I.

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Speaker 1: Want to start here with you, no kidding, even for

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Speaker 1: crazy American politics standards, Thanks for being here. I want

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Speaker 1: to start with our good friend. I call her Fanny

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Speaker 1: because I think she's shown her ass a lot. Fanny

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Speaker 1: Willis down in Atlanta, was on Rachel.

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Speaker 2: Maddow's show I Believe.

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Speaker 1: And she decided that she wanted to weigh in on you.

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Speaker 1: We've got the audio here is cut six.

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Speaker 7: Jim Jordan has time after time after time attacked my

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Speaker 7: office with no legitimate purpose. Anyone who knows Jim Jordan's

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Speaker 7: history knows that he only has the purpose of trying

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Speaker 7: to interfere in a criminal investigation. He has now turned

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Speaker 7: his tricks to he's going to look at grant programs,

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Speaker 7: which I invite him to do, and we have complied

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Speaker 7: with his subpoenas.

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Speaker 3: But yet he.

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Speaker 7: Continues his attacks to try to interfere in a criminal investigation,

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Speaker 7: all while his jurisdiction has one of the worst crime rates,

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Speaker 7: has poverty issues, and not one time has he used

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Speaker 7: his position to try to investigate people who are attacking

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Speaker 7: me and attacking others legitimately doing their jobs, making him

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Speaker 7: illegitimate in his position. And it's disgusting. And so I

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Speaker 7: bring that up at the federal level because now at

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Speaker 7: the state level, they've decided to follow this clown's lead.

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Speaker 1: Okay, she called you a clown. I would think just

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Speaker 1: to refresh for everybody out there. She hired her lover,

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Speaker 1: she paid him seven hundred thousand dollars in state funds.

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Speaker 1: She may well get removed by the Georgia Court of

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Speaker 1: Appeals before all is said and done. When she decides

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Speaker 1: to go after you in that manner, is it a

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Speaker 1: badge of honor? What do you think think when things

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Speaker 1: like that, when attacks like that are made against you.

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Speaker 8: I mean, their case is falling apart. I mean she

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Speaker 8: paid Nathan Wade, as you said, seven hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 8: She came to DC, met with met with the Justice

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Speaker 8: depart member the January six Committee, meet with folks at

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Speaker 8: the White House, all part of this coordinated effort to

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Speaker 8: go to President Trump. And oh, by the way, there's

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Speaker 8: a whistleblower down there who's talked to us. Miss Timpson

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Speaker 8: has come forward and said she did it. She leged

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Speaker 8: she misspent federal fun So you know, like I said,

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Speaker 8: I've been called a lot worse than clown by folks.

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Speaker 8: So I just try to stick to the facts. In fact, Clay,

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Speaker 8: every one of these cases is falling apart. The immunity

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Speaker 8: thing in DC is on hold. Two weeks ago, Jack

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Speaker 8: Smith got caught altering the sequence of the documents he

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Speaker 8: sees the physical documents don't match up with the scan documents.

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Speaker 8: Some people might call that tampering with the evidence, something

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Speaker 8: you're not allowed to do. And of course the irony

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Speaker 8: is not lost on anyone. Jack Smith mishandled documents while

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Speaker 8: he's charging President Trump with mishandling documents, that case has

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Speaker 8: fallen apart. And of course we know what's going on

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Speaker 8: in New York, which is a complete, complete joke. We

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Speaker 8: saw that when when when Michael Alvin Bragg said he

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Speaker 8: could not and this is like two years ago, could

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Speaker 8: not envision a bringing a prosecution against President Trump and

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Speaker 8: calling Michael Cohen as a prosecution witness. That's what he said,

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Speaker 8: and but then in fact did just that after Trump

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Speaker 8: announces he's running for president. So these cases are all

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Speaker 8: about politics, and when you're all about politics, you can

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Speaker 8: see why there's a good chance he'll fall apart.

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Speaker 6: Like the art.

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Speaker 2: Congress and Jordan appreciate you being with us here. What

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Speaker 2: what do you think happens if? I mean, Clay and

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Speaker 2: I talked about this a bit yesterday on the show.

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Speaker 2: Let's say, and I unfortunately predicted that there'll be a

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Speaker 2: conviction of New York, not because I disagree in any

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Speaker 2: way that it's a sham. I think it's an outrageous sham.

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Speaker 2: It's an absurdity, but not a funny one really when

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Speaker 2: you think about what's at stake. But I think the

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Speaker 2: jury's biased. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see if they're there

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Speaker 2: is a hung jury, which I think Clay is more

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Speaker 2: inclined to think that's a possibility. What does it mean

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Speaker 2: for the rest of these cases? I mean, do they

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Speaker 2: just then act like nothing, really, no big deal. J six,

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get them on that, or maybe we'll get

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Speaker 2: them in Florida or something else. Is that just where

657
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Speaker 2: this goes? Because it feels like it's all such clear

658
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Speaker 2: election interference at this point and they're gonna double down

659
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Speaker 2: on it no matter what is that? Is that your read? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think so, because again, you know, you go through

661
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Speaker 8: the history. We've talked about this before, but you know,

662
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Speaker 8: they spout of his campaign in sixteen, then it's Muller.

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Speaker 8: Then it's then it's you know, Muller what nineteen lawyers,

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Speaker 8: thirty million dollars, forty one agents, they go into that,

665
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Speaker 8: they find nothing, then it's impeachment. Then they raid his home,

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Speaker 8: then it's you know, all for of these cases, then

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Speaker 8: it's the fourteenth Amendment. Everything they try doesn't seem to work,

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Speaker 8: but they're not gonna stop trying because they're determined to

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Speaker 8: keep President Trump from being the next president of the

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Speaker 8: United States. So yeah, I think they just just keep

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Speaker 8: plowing ahead. Now, as I said before, the good news

672
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Speaker 8: is all these all these cases are falling apart because

673
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Speaker 8: they never should have been brought in the first place.

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Speaker 8: But I do not see Democrats letting up. One thing

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Speaker 8: about Democrats, particularly the left which now controls their party.

676
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Speaker 8: They are committed to getting to the objective, come Hecker

677
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Speaker 8: high water. That's just how they operate.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, do you since that they're starting to be a

679
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Speaker 1: little bit of a panic inside of the Biden campaign,

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Speaker 1: the decision to debate on June twenty seventh and September tenth,

681
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Speaker 1: the lawfare collapsing. Regardless of what happens in New York City,

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Speaker 1: we're five and a half months out. You've known Trump

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I'm not sure he's ever been

684
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Speaker 1: at a stronger political position in his career than he

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Speaker 1: is as we're talking today. Do you get the sense

686
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Speaker 1: that they're starting. They spent tens of millions of dollars already,

687
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Speaker 1: their game plan, as it were, kind of getting its

688
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Speaker 1: ass kicked.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you since that they're starting to panic a

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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, particularly when the polling in the states to count

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Speaker 8: the seven states and now determine the presidency of the

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Speaker 8: United States. What there was I saw one pole in

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Speaker 8: Georgia they were down like point Yeah, Arizona they're down

695
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Speaker 8: like ten points. And you know, the only stay to

696
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Speaker 8: think of this of the seven where they're like dead

697
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Speaker 8: even is Wisconsin, which Wisconsin's always dead even, you know

698
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Speaker 8: this way Wisconsin is right now. But they're winning the

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Speaker 8: other six, including the VATA up substantially in the polls

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Speaker 8: I saw like a week and a half ago.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 8: I do think that's you know, because we're not We're

703
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Speaker 8: used to the polls being kind of close and the

704
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Speaker 8: polls being a little off, and some of our voters

705
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Speaker 8: like get nervous about even saying anything. You know, I'm

706
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Speaker 8: just I'm not gonna I'm not going to weigh in. Uh.

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Speaker 8: And yet now with them showing Trump in the lead

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Speaker 8: and by substantial margins in some of these key states,

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Speaker 8: I do think you know, why else would they out

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Speaker 8: of the blue, Just well, Shitzam, we're gonna we need

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Speaker 8: a debate in June. Well, whoever heard of that? Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you know, it's like, of course we're gonna have debates.

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Speaker 8: We have them every four years in the presidential race,

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Speaker 8: but we never had them in June. And they came

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Speaker 8: from Biden, who we thought was not going to debate.

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Speaker 8: So I think that does indicate you know, your your

717
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Speaker 8: question is is on target.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Congress and Jim Jordan of Ohio congressman, obviously

719
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Speaker 2: some very important races, including Bernie Marino, who is running

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Speaker 2: for a critical Senate seat as you're seeing it on

721
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Speaker 2: the House side and the Senate side, What are the

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Speaker 2: what are the issues that are going to be the

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Speaker 2: determining factors in the important close races, right, I mean

724
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Speaker 2: where it really counts, where we need to win in

725
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Speaker 2: order to have control of the House and control of

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Speaker 2: the Senate. What would you say are the top three issues?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, secure border to Noboarder, that's the biggest change in

728
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Speaker 8: three years and one hundred and twenty days ever long

729
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Speaker 8: Joebide has been president, safe streets, to record crime, and

730
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Speaker 8: you can you can measure the inflation, both in the

731
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Speaker 8: cost of gas and everything else. So it's you know,

732
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Speaker 8: from two dollars gas to four dollar gas, from stable

733
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Speaker 8: prices to record record inflation. Those are the issues are

734
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Speaker 8: gonna drive you take your family out to dinner. Yeah,

735
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Speaker 8: are our youngest son and daughter in law and their

736
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Speaker 8: little one over in Indianapolis, And we took them out

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Speaker 8: the dinner. It's like a month or so ago, and

738
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Speaker 8: we didn't go to the fancy, but it was a

739
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Speaker 8: nice restaurant. And you get the bill for just like

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Speaker 8: the five of four of us. That's different, Like holy cow,

741
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Speaker 8: how to middle class families, Like, it's crazy, what just

742
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Speaker 8: to go to a pretty nice restaurant with your family.

743
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Speaker 8: So I think all those things, and then you add

744
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Speaker 8: in this attack on Trump, this weaponization of government, these

745
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Speaker 8: agencies being turned against we the people, and then the

746
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Speaker 8: final straw is some people are going to step back

747
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Speaker 8: and look, you know, with President Trump, we didn't have

748
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Speaker 8: Russia going into Ukraine. We didn't have Hamas a terrorist

749
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Speaker 8: organization attacking our best friend, the state of Israel. None

750
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Speaker 8: of that garbage was going on. And I kind of

751
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Speaker 8: liked it when it wasn't going on. People are going

752
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Speaker 8: to say, so, I think those kind of those three

753
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Speaker 8: key issues, the weaponization of government and then this foreign

754
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Speaker 8: policy to some that is in the back of people's

755
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Speaker 8: minds as well, and they're going to say, like, let's

756
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Speaker 8: go back to Trump, things were so much better.

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Speaker 1: You listen to the show, so you're aware that Buck

758
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Speaker 1: and I have been on opposite sides of whether Biden's

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Speaker 1: going to be the guy. Yeah, and I know you

760
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Speaker 1: have seen the size of another a Yeah, the ice

761
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Speaker 1: cream debate and who's going to be the Democratic at all?

762
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Speaker 8: Those are important.

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Speaker 1: So it's important answer here for you to see whether

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Speaker 1: you're on the side of truth, justice and Clay or

765
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Speaker 1: evil and uh and and and and awful things and Buck.

766
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Speaker 1: But to set that up, it feels like every day

767
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Speaker 1: now there is a new viral Biden clip where he's

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Speaker 1: just not able to read the teleprompter or he's not

769
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Speaker 1: able to get off the stage. June twenty seventh, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned is now the CNN debate. Do you think they're

771
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Speaker 1: really gonna roll.

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Speaker 8: With this guy?

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Speaker 1: Or do you think as the lawfare is crumbling and

774
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Speaker 1: as Biden's essential argument for why he deserves the second term,

775
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Speaker 1: it feels like every day takes a new punch to

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Speaker 1: the gut.

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Speaker 2: What are they thinking?

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Speaker 8: I don't know, but I do. I hate to say,

779
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Speaker 8: since I'm sitting with you and watching Buck on the screen,

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Speaker 8: I'm with I'm oh.

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Speaker 2: No, let's cut the interview. Now. I hear he doesn't

782
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Speaker 2: want to wait a second congressation. You don't want to

783
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Speaker 2: join Clay on his rapidly sinking ship. What a shock,

784
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Speaker 2: I think this far. And I mean if they change now,

785
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Speaker 2: like what the country say, like what we're now? We

786
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Speaker 2: gotta we were We were kind of sizing them up,

787
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Speaker 2: you know, because I mean it's always about the choice.

788
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Speaker 8: We're sizing them up. And now it's like somebody completely

789
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Speaker 8: new and we got five months to figure this out.

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Speaker 8: I mean maybe, but my gut tells me. And and look,

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Speaker 8: I wasn't necessarily there a few months ago. I thought,

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Speaker 8: you know, what, will they will they bump him out

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Speaker 8: for someone else and put someone else in there. But

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Speaker 8: now I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna

795
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Speaker 8: be Biden. I just think it is. It's it's Scranton, Joe.

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Speaker 8: They'll still try to play that game, and they'll still

797
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Speaker 8: aside from these two baits, probably keeping keeping them away

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Speaker 8: from the crowds as much as possible. That's my gut,

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Speaker 8: and I don't I don't know they have anything else.

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Speaker 8: But the scary thing is is what are they planning

801
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Speaker 8: for September and October?

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Speaker 2: What do you think that's I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Keep coming I keep coming back to, like, you know,

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Speaker 8: there's something else, because if they don't get a conviction

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Speaker 8: and these like they don't get a conviction in New York,

806
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Speaker 8: these other three cases are following apart, what are they

807
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Speaker 8: gonna do? And I keep kind of racking my brain,

808
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 8: like what what is it?

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Jim see see I see this as

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Speaker 2: first of all, you know you're right because you're agreeing

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Speaker 2: with me and at all along which is that Biden's

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Speaker 2: going to be the nominee and everyone says, oh, no,

813
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be some other person. I'm like, no, it's

814
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Speaker 2: gonna be Biden, and sure enough it will be. But

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Speaker 2: I I also agree with you that they're not just

816
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Speaker 2: gonna go off to the election as things stand now.

817
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Speaker 2: I mean, because I think even if they got a

818
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Speaker 2: conviction in New York, I think the numbers might go

819
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Speaker 2: even deeper in the positive column for Trump. I mean,

820
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Speaker 2: I think it could blow up even more in their face.

821
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Speaker 2: So they're gonna pull something else. And I can't think

822
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Speaker 2: of what it is off to out of my head.

823
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Speaker 2: But you know, I'm certainly not not celebrating early. Just

824
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Speaker 2: before we let you go, Congressmans, we'll run up against

825
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Speaker 2: the clock.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, do you have much of a sense of

828
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Speaker 2: does the VP really matter? And and do you have

829
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Speaker 2: a VP that you think is the right choice for

830
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Speaker 2: for the Trump ticket.

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Speaker 8: I like all the people he's talking to you. I mean,

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Speaker 8: I really like Sarah huck to be saying. I don't

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Speaker 8: know if she's on the kind of the list, but

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Speaker 8: I like, at least he's a colleague of ours. She's

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Speaker 8: she's been tremendous. Tim Scott mark as your.

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Speaker 2: Question, I'll actually I want to jump in really quick.

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Speaker 2: Is at least is alas a conservative?

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Speaker 8: Is Alisa's been solid, She's been really I mean, we

839
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Speaker 8: worked well together back in twenty nineteen on defending President

840
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Speaker 8: Trump during impeachment when they did the crazy impeachment thing,

841
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Speaker 8: and on the Intel Committee, and because then then Leader

842
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Speaker 8: McCarthy put me on the Intel Committee for two months

843
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Speaker 8: during during the impeachment process, so yeah, she's been, she's

844
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 8: been tremendous. So but I think this is all about

845
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Speaker 8: President Trump. I really do. I think our team is coming.

846
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Speaker 8: You saw that one hundred thousand people wild with New

847
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 8: Jersey like our folks are fired up. And I think

848
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Speaker 8: it's all about him and that comparison between him and

849
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Speaker 8: Joe Biden, and what a what a contrast, Holy cow,

850
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Speaker 8: what a contrast. So I think ever's been.

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Speaker 2: Jim Jordan always appreciated you get to hang out with

852
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Speaker 2: play in DC. I'll be there next time. I actually

853
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Speaker 2: don't take any excuse to hang out in the swamp

854
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Speaker 2: going on like a swamp tour.

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Speaker 8: I really enjoy you guys show. You do a great job.

856
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Speaker 8: Appreciate that you so much.

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Speaker 2: You appreciate it. Thank you, Clay. I do love AUMs

858
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Speaker 2: where we talked to Jim. He can reference other shows

859
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Speaker 2: we've done when he wasn't a guest. That's always what

860
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Speaker 2: if you want to ingratiate yourself to radio hosts, it's

861
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Speaker 2: referenced the show when you weren't a guest because you

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Speaker 2: were actually listening. Then we're like, oh, true, it's totally true.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you know, it's fantastic Anyway, Look, we

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Speaker 2: were talking about DC government service. There are very good

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Speaker 1: Look, first of all, excited to talk with Julie, I

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Speaker 1: want to say something. The last three or four weeks,

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Speaker 1: thanks to the crew here on the studio, we've been

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Speaker 1: moving around a lot in the Travis household because my

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Speaker 1: step father in law passed away on Saturday. Name's Larry Kornaki,

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Speaker 1: lifelong Michigander, amazing guy, seventy eight years old, served in

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Speaker 1: Has owned his business, his food production business for decades.

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Speaker 1: I say step father in law, It's not really accurate

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Speaker 1: So the minute I met him, we were already I've

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Speaker 1: had a stroke about three and a half weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: He had moved to East Tennessee to live on the

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Speaker 1: lake there while still managing a lot of his business

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Speaker 1: interests back in Michigan, and so we've been going back

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Speaker 1: and forth a lot with that. Didn't want to say

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Speaker 1: he runs a business wanted to make sure that everybody

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Speaker 1: was taken care of. Theirs got over one hundred employees.

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Speaker 1: It's thriving, it's doing well in Southeast Michigan. But for

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Speaker 1: me personally, he was an incredible grandfather to my three boys.

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Speaker 1: He's got seven grandsons, which is really pretty remarkable to

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Speaker 1: think about across his family. We were in the hotel,

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Speaker 1: we were in the hospital room as he passed on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: The three boys meet friend's family surrounding him. But personally,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I would have a meeting career

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Speaker 1: if it weren't for him. Right now, I don't know

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Speaker 1: that any of you would be listening to me because

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Speaker 1: if you work in media and buck, I know you've

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Speaker 1: experienced this. You can get fired at any moment. It's

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Speaker 1: really hard to make a living in this industry, particularly

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Speaker 1: when you start off. I got fired in January of

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven along with about one hundred other people on

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Speaker 1: anybody else basically control your future. Start your own business.

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Speaker 1: I started out kick. I wouldn't have done it without

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Speaker 1: his encouragement. I don't think I would be sitting here

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Speaker 1: talking to all of you without his encouragement. So for

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Speaker 1: everybody out there, I know there are many different types

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Speaker 1: of families everywhere. Try to be that force of positivity

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Speaker 1: in your household. Even if you're not blood related to people.

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Speaker 1: The difference that you can make in someone else's life

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Speaker 1: is so tremendous. I wouldn't be here without Larry. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you to all of the Larry's

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Speaker 1: across this entire listenership. I know that many of you

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Speaker 1: have people who have done for you what he did

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Speaker 1: for me. He'll be deeply missed. I thank all of

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Speaker 1: you in advance for the condolences and everything else, but

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Speaker 1: I just want to encourage you to be the positive

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Speaker 1: force in someone's life and help them get to the

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Speaker 1: proverbial next level in their own way like he did

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back next with Julie Kelly.