1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Second hour playing Buck kicks off. Now we are joined 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: by the one and only Sean Hannity of all things 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity, the huge TV show, a. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 2: Huge video show. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 3: I got a lot of I got praise for both 6 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: of you guys to get started, and I'm not sucking up, 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 3: but I'm kind of sucking up. Buck your You have 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 3: no idea how much your book blew me away. It 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 3: was so interesting. I'm so interested in the topic. And 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: I don't know if you could tell when you're on 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 3: my radio show, but this is a this has been 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: an obsession of mine for years that I don't often 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: talk about. And that's like psychopolitics, manipulation, hypnotism, mass hypnosis. 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: You know, you wonder, how do we lose a hundred 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: million people in the last century, and you know, how 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: come these people, you know will do their Heil Hitler's 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: or these lunatics in Iran and whatever. But it was 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: so well done. I learned so much from your book. 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: It took it to another level. Great job, Clay, I have. 20 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: By the way, Buck, just so you know, I gave 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: him a lay up bet to the Super Bowl, a 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: layups because I really wanted Robert Craft's team to win 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: just because it would irritate everybody, and I like Robert Craft. Uh, 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: but everybody kind of knew it was an uphill battle 25 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: to beat Seattle. So I said, okay, I want every 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: other bet, I'll give you this one. I didn't. I 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: didn't even get points from this guy. And he wins, 28 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: and he's like bragging that I owehim a million dollars. 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 4: It's true. I mean, you've been ever since. I don't 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 4: know where you are right now? 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: Well, where is all the money that you owe me 32 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 3: from the way? 33 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: Can we start here? Before? 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 4: You said Buck's book is amazing, and that was your 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 4: compliment for anfacturing delusion. Manufacturing delusion compliments. 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: For me was that you gave me a bet that 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't lose. I was like, but we need Sean 38 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: on at least once a week. Lay. 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: I had no idea that your OutKick show was on 40 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: my cable system because I don't see the channel a lot. 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 3: I watch Fox. I keep Fox all the time on 42 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 3: because I'm working all the time. And then one night 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 3: and I'm just flipping around, flipping around, of course there's nothing. 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: Then boom, there you are, and I got to watch 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: your podcast out kickshow on my cable network. I couldn't 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: believe it. It was great. 47 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: Yea, we got a weekly show now on FS one. 48 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: They've done a good job of putting that thing on. 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 4: They let me, you know, sit down and make whatever 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 4: arguments I want, And I don't know I should have 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: thought of it. I guess, all right, So let's dive 52 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 4: into a bunch here. I can't but let me hit 53 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 4: you with this, Sewan, because this just came down. You 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 4: spent a long time in New York City until, like Buck, 55 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: you decided that you had to leave and go to Florida, 56 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: to a much better place. But Bill Malujin just did this, 57 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: like literally four minutes ago. The New York City terror suspect, 58 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 4: one of them, a mere blot and I might be 59 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: mispronouncing that name, was arrested for throwing an ied loaded 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 4: with nuts, bolts and other objects. He pledged explosive. Just 61 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 4: to be clear, that's what TATP is. Tatph. He pledged 62 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: allegiance to Isis while in NYPD custody, saying all praises 63 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 4: due to Allah, Lord of all worlds, I pledge my 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: allegiance to the Islamic State. 65 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: Die in your rage. 66 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 4: You and I don't even know if this is an 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: insult means non believers, non believer, This isn't a religion 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: that just stands when people talk about the blessed name 69 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: of the prophet. 70 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: We take action. 71 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: All of those comments caught on NYPD body cameras, Sean, 72 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: this is just out in to New York City Gracie mansion. 73 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: They tried, Mamdanie did to say, oh, this is white supremacist. 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, this is what a lot of people, 75 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: I think are afraid of when they see what's happening 76 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: in the country. Certainly while this attack on Iran is 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: going on. 78 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 3: Look, this has been a fear of mind now for 79 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 3: a long long time. This is why I obsessively, compulsively, 80 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: repetitively by design pointed out the danger during the four 81 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: years of Biden of unseted immigration, absolutely no vetting of 82 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: these people from over two oundred countries, including many countries 83 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: were terroritized. Now in this case, my understanding is that 84 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 3: both Americans, they're young, and we'll get to the toxic 85 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 3: online environment that is I believe is purposely designed to 86 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: influence young people, and people have to be very careful 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: what their kids are doing. However, we still have known 88 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 3: terrorists in this country. We have people in this country 89 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: that didn't get vetted from right now. You know, do 90 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: I worry about sleeper cells? Yeah? I was in New 91 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: York City on nine to eleven oh one. I lost 92 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 3: friends that day. You know, two nine hundred and seventy 93 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: seven Americans died that day. And this is what frustrates 94 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 3: me about online culture. 95 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: Is a lot of people. 96 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: First of all, it's cancerous. I mean, if you want 97 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 3: to feel horrible about yourself either one of you start 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: reading comments about what people say about you, and you know, 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: you have these these anonymous keyboard warriors and their parents' 100 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: basement and their underwear, you know, that can say any 101 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: incendiary thing they want and influence people. Now that that's 102 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: fine for us, We this is the business we chose. 103 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: That comes with it. But for young people, if they're 104 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: being bullied online, it can have a profound impact on them. 105 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: Here's another problem we have. Like you see this rise 106 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: of anti Semitism, I find it disgustingly ignorant on so 107 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: many fronts. And we've got to understand that Russia and 108 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: countries like Iran and other countries, they are inundating and 109 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: targeting young people with propaganda. It's a lie that bb 110 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: nets and Yahoo caused Donald Trump to take action. I've 111 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: known Donald Trump over thirty years. Donald Trump is a 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: man of his own mind, I promise you. And if 113 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: he didn't think it was in America's best interest to 114 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: be involved in this conflict, he wouldn't be. The difference 115 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: between Trump and every person before him. And I think 116 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: this is important is that Donald Trump understands history. And 117 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: I wrote a whole book about this years ago in 118 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: two thousand and four called Deliver Us from Evil, Defeating Terrorism, 119 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: Despotism and Liberalism, and I went through the history of 120 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 3: the last century. My father, for example, fought four years 121 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: in the Pacific, and if you look at Mao China, 122 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: Stalin Russia, Hitler Germany, Fascism Italy Tojo Japan, and Paul 123 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: Pott in the Killing Fields, over one hundred millions human 124 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: souls were defeated. Donald Trump's been very clear the Iranians 125 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: cannot have nuclear weapons, and that's what Operation Midnight Hammer 126 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: was about. Now Operation Epic Fury, we're going to finish 127 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: the job. The most interesting interview besides the one I 128 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: had with Israeli Prime Minister net Yahoo last week was 129 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 3: with the Midi Eastan boy Steve Whitcoff and Witcoff. This 130 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: is what they offered the Iranians because Trump kept saying publicly, 131 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: I'd much. 132 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: Rather have a deal. 133 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: I don't want to do this, And the Iranians were 134 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: offered civilian low grade enriched uranium for civilian purposes, for free, 135 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: in perpetuity. In other words, they but they didn't want 136 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: that deal because they wanted to pursue their nuclear ambitions. Now, 137 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: what is the ISIS CA the ISIS Caliphate? Their motto 138 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: was convert or die, And in this case, you know 139 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: you're dealing with a regime death to Israel, death to America. 140 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: What is Donald Trump really trying to accomplish here? He 141 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: said it a couple of times, and people don't want 142 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: to focus on it. He wants to make sure our 143 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: children and our grandchildren don't inherit a nuclear armed dran 144 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: with the possibility that millions and millions those human souls 145 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: will will perish because of the fanaticism that is driving 146 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: them beyond all sense and logic to pursue nuclear weapons 147 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: when the world doesn't trust them, nor should they be 148 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: in the number one state sponsor of terror. So it 149 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: is an existential, long term threat to the world. And 150 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, unlike every predecessor of his, had the willingness 151 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: to take it on. He's defeating it. No military effort 152 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: is easy, but he's learned the lessons of history that 153 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: so many others have not. 154 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: And Sean, can I ask you? Can I ask you 155 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: about that because I think you're in a particularly special 156 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: place to Here's here's what we got right now. Okay, 157 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: with the Iran thing going on, we're speaking to Sean 158 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: Hannity for anyone's joining us in progress, U Sean. We 159 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: know that war or aerial campaigns, however someone wants, someone 160 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: wants to describe this, things can go wrong. We're talking 161 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: about kinetic strikes. We're talking about military activity. We have 162 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are obviously, just like your listeners, 163 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: huge Trump supporters. They are concerned right now about boots 164 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: on the ground. We're hearing it all the time, boots 165 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: on the ground. They're concerned that somehow Trump has been misled. 166 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: That Trump and Pete Hegseth, who you know very well, 167 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: we know very well that he's forgotten the lessons of 168 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: I Rock and Afghanistan, et cetera. What do you say 169 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: to your listeners, and therefore, what do you say to 170 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: the Trump faithful out there when people are saying to you, Yeah, 171 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: of course I'm with Trump on so much that he's doing, 172 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: but I'm worried that he would make a mistake here. 173 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: What do you say to those people? 174 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: Look, they've left open the door the possibility if only 175 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: under the most extreme circumstances, if needed, would any boots 176 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 3: be on the ground. I would imagine that boots on 177 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: the ground would probably be to protect oil executives. Because 178 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: assuming that all those people that were taking to the 179 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: streets to stand up against this rogue regime and were 180 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 3: being mowed down by the tens of thousands, that there's 181 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: got to be a transition, and it's got to be quick, 182 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: and it's got to kind of duplicate what the President 183 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: was able to pull off in Venezuela. But they've got 184 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: to have infrastructure and money to build out their economy 185 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: again and hopefully be America's best trading partner, which is 186 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 3: why I'm confident. But if you wanted Donald Trump is 187 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: going to do in the future, look at what he's 188 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 3: done in the past. He wiped out the Isis Califate, 189 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: no boots on the ground. He took out Solamani, he 190 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: took out Bagdaddy, dropped the mother of all bombs on Afghanistan, 191 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 3: took out to drop fourteen bunker buster bombs and Midnight Hammer, 192 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 3: and took out the nuclear facilities. Now he's finishing the 193 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: job because they will not give up that ambition, and 194 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: this is now the final step. What is the president's 195 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: thinking on it. The President's main thinking is I'm not 196 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: going to leave this job without creating a safer America 197 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: for future generations. That's what he's thinking. Now. The Trump 198 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: doctrine is pretty clear if I had to guess, He's 199 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: getting out of there, the hell out of there as 200 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 3: quickly as possible, and there will be economic benefits for 201 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: America long term. And you know this week is this 202 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 3: war is a little over a week old, I mean, 203 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 3: and the American attention span is ridiculous now. The online 204 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: chatter and the people that were wrong every other time 205 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: about present in a Trump and his economic programs, is 206 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: his past military endeavors. You know, they live to create 207 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: chaos on the name of Donald Trump. You know, Democrats 208 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 3: are openly cheering. I mean, Hakeem Jeffries, we're going to 209 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 3: lose this war. No, we're not. We're not going to 210 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 3: lose it. And it's not going to be a forever war. 211 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: That I can tell you is foremost in Trump's mind. 212 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: It's definitely difficult. I think the most difficult part of 213 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: this military effort is going to be the transition part, 214 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: and that's transitioning into hopefully what will be a democratic republic. 215 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: But even the President said it's ultimately going to be 216 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: up to the Iranian people, and at some point he's 217 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: going to tell them to come out of their homes 218 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 3: into the streets. And our hope is the remaining remnants 219 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: loyalists to the old regime are going to drop their 220 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 3: weapons and join the people and look for a better 221 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: future for the people in Iran. I mean, and the 222 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: Persian people have a history of unbelievable success and a 223 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: great culture, and they want to go back to the 224 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 3: pre nineteen seventy nine revolution days. 225 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 4: Sean, you've got an interview going up with Stephen A. 226 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: Smith about whether he might run for president in twenty eight. 227 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: I know you guys have been friends for a long time. 228 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: What did you learn there how can people find it? 229 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: Well, wherever you get your video podcast, you can find 230 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 3: it there. We have a lot of great people build 231 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: the Blasio believe it or not, sat with me for 232 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: an hour and a half. I think it's and it's 233 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: it's just different. It's fun, it's not as political. We 234 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: just keep it real. And John Fetterman sat down with me. 235 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: Ronda Santa sat down with me. You're gonna like this, 236 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 3: Clay Matthew Kachuck is going to oh yeah with me. 237 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that. I'm a huge hockey fan, 238 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: as you know. I have season tickets to the Panthers. 239 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: They've struggled all year because of injuries, unfortunately, but I'm 240 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: hoping they might make the playoffs. Two time Stanley Cup champions, 241 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: I think you lost that bet too, but let's not 242 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: talk about it. But anyway, So it drops tomorrow the 243 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: first episode. Wherever you get your podcast. It's just so 244 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: different than radio and what I do on radio, what 245 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: I do on TV. It's just fun to do. I 246 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: really enjoy it. I'm looking forward when you guys are 247 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: in town. I'd love to have you both on the show. 248 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: We could talk about Clay's book. How often that Clay. 249 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: We can talk about bucks book and how often Clay 250 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: loses best with me. I think that'll be very riveting. 251 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 4: This is good for him, just you know, Sean, because Clay, 252 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: unfortunately is already celebrating a bet that he thinks he's 253 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: one with me before we even know having to do 254 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: with Kamala. So the little dose of humility that you 255 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 4: give to Clay on his betting, this is it's music 256 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: to my ears. 257 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: Very nice. 258 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: What's made a bad bet? He said that Kamala was 259 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: not he you did win a bunch of bets in 260 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: a row. But Buck said that Kamala was not going 261 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: to rhyme. But I'm very confident that she's running. She 262 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 4: has nothing else in her life. 263 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: Sean. You've got a lot in your life. 264 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: You've got the new show, You've got your show that 265 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 4: comes on right after this one. Many of the same stations. 266 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 4: We appreciate everybody listening all day and then the show 267 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 4: tonight we'll be watching. 268 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be watching. Listen. I want to have you 269 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: guys on the on the podcast and I think we'll 270 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: have a great time. And it goes and we got 271 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 3: cigars and anything you want on the set is fun. 272 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 4: So we're there. We appreciate you, my man, keep up 273 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 4: the good work. I don't know if we lost Sean there, 274 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 4: but it is worth noting that Sean has been running 275 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 4: and hiding quite a lot since he's now losing bets. No, no, 276 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: I think it's more like he's a superhero who just 277 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: threw the smoke bomb for the dramatic a. 278 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: We'll come back. You heard me. 279 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 4: Give Sean that latest information on the arrest warrants and 280 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 4: details that have come out in the indictments of those 281 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 4: you left out. You left out a big one by it. 282 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: I'm not you left out, but I'm saying we left 283 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 4: out one big one that I want to tell everybody 284 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 4: from the indictment play that's wow. Yeah, we will hit 285 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 4: that when we come back. In the meantime, let me 286 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: paint a picture of what's happening in Israel right now. 287 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: Nighttime sirens blaring. You have only seconds to organize your 288 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: family run for a bomb shelter. Now imagine your elderly 289 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: You don't move as fast getting downstairs, upstairs, all that 290 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 4: stuff is so difficult, and then you're in a bomb 291 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: shelter for hours. That's what's happening across Israel as Operation 292 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: Epic Fury continues. Kids traumatized, families, exhausted, homes destroyed. That's 293 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: what the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews is all about. 294 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 4: They're on the ground bringing food, emergency equipment, care for kids, 295 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 4: and help for the elderly. I've seen the work that 296 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: they do. It is life saving. It makes a tremendous 297 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 4: difference in Israel. You can join Buck and Me and 298 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 4: be a part of this and give forty five dollars 299 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 4: right now to rush life saving essentials to the vulnerable 300 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: in Israel that are currently under fire. Eight eight eight 301 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: four eight eight if CJ that's eight eight eight four 302 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 4: eight eight IFCJ. You can go online at IFCJ dot org. 303 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 4: That's IFCJ dot org. 304 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 5: Stories of Freedom, Stories of America, inspirational stories that you 305 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 5: unite us all each day, spend time with Clay and 306 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 5: find find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever 307 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 5: you get your podcasts. 308 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back in quick turn. 309 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: Here we are going to talk more about the arrests 310 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: of the two individuals that has taken place in the 311 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 4: New York City terror attack attempt. 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Maniacs are 340 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: throwing a bomb that has TATP, which is a homemade 341 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: peroxide based explosive. Classic from the UH How to Make 342 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 4: a Bomb in the Kitchen of your Mom the Inspire 343 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 4: magazine by Alcaid in the Arabian Peninsula, they taught they 344 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: taught people how to do the pressure cooker stuff, how 345 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: to make all of the homemade bombs using that also 346 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 4: TATP is. It's effectively a home homemade explosive. 347 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: It's not hard to do. 348 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 4: Way back in the day when I was in the agency. 349 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: We had a whole homemade explosives class that we learned about. 350 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: Now I've forgotten everything. I'm old. 351 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 4: But once you learn how to do this stuff, it's 352 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: not hard and it's very effective. It's very effective to 353 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 4: create these these improvised explosive devices. And they wrapped it 354 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: with ball bearing so they knew they're creating a shrapnel 355 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 4: effect me. And this is an id, my friends. This 356 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 4: is what this is, and that's why the NYPD is 357 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: taking it so very seriously. 358 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: It is. 359 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 4: It is the same as if they had rolled a 360 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: hand grenade into this crowd and the hand grenade, you know, 361 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: the fuse didn't go, it didn't hit the explosive chain properly. 362 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: That's what this is. 363 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: And I mentioned this before because Clay read off a 364 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 4: few of the things in the indictment that were caught. 365 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 4: Just to be clear. 366 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: Also another Clay body cameras once again, yep, if you 367 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: don't have body cameras, it's the cops said he said it, 368 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: but did he really say it? Everyone heard him say it, 369 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: but did he really say it. Well, it's caught on video. 370 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: So these guys said, all praises due to Allah of 371 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: all worlds, I pledge my allegiance to the Islamic state. 372 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: Die in your rage, you kafar, which as I explained, 373 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: is a is a derogatory term for non Muslim in fact, 374 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: and this gets into Jihaddism. I'm going back into the 375 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: G want meant g watt area here. But they would 376 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: they would call this the tuck theory clay where Muslim 377 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: in order to get around the Islamic prohibition on killing 378 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: fellow Muslims would say would claim tuk fear, which means 379 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: that that Muslim is outside of the religion and no 380 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: longer protected as a Muslim because they're not a true believer. 381 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: So these were called the tuk furies in Jihada circles. 382 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: And so they would also they would even call fellow 383 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: Muslims Kufar non believers because they had tucked, they had 384 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: used tuck fear, and they were of this sect. So 385 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 1: the idea is, I can kill anybody I want if 386 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm a crazy Jihatis, because unless you're part of my team, 387 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: you're not really a real Muslim. 388 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: That was the idea. But here's what was said. 389 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: Additionally, caught on video camera in the indictment, one of 390 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 4: these guys, Baalat, stated they wanted to carry out an 391 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 4: attack bigger than the Boston marathon bombing, which Baalat noted 392 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 4: caused only three deaths. These are so let's just just 393 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 4: by way of review here, my friends, protests in New 394 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: York City say saying we're scared about the Islamification of 395 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 4: New York and there's too much jihadism and terrorism here, 396 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 4: and jihadis terrorists show up to try to blow up 397 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 4: the protest with bombs because they're saying, how dare you 398 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 4: say that we're terrorists. 399 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,959 Speaker 2: More or less? This is what I couldn't I couldn't 400 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: get over when I saw this story. 401 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: There's also one of the charged terrorists, would be terrorists, 402 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 4: he used, and I'm reading this is an account because 403 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 4: I shared this an account from he used, one of 404 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: the counter protesters chanting that diversity is our strength as 405 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: a springboard to throw. 406 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: The bomb, like buck, look at this video. Diversity is 407 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: our strength. Alahak bar, I will kill all of you. Really, 408 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 2: that's where we are. This is really what happened. 409 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 4: If you watch this video, Geiger Capital, which sometimes funny, 410 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 4: says it's absolutely perfect. A liberal man in New York 411 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: City yelling about how everyone is welcome as a Muslim 412 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: man yells Allahu akbar and uses him as a literal 413 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: springboard to throw a home made bomb. The West's suicidal 414 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 4: empathy on video, and you can sort of see the 415 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: guy who just got used as the springboard looking around like, 416 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 4: wait a minute, what's going on here? He's saying diversity 417 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: is our strength. We welcome everyone, we're so glad to have 418 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 4: you here. 419 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 2: And a would be. 420 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: Terrorist uses his shoulder to propel himself higher so he 421 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 4: can throw the bomb further. It's just it's such a 422 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 4: perfect metaphor. This is buck when again, when I saw this, 423 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 4: I was skeptical, because it's rarely that exactly what you 424 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: are protesting is immediately proven to be. 425 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: A valid point of protest. 426 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: Now here's the other thing, though, do you know what 427 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 4: would have happened if these bombs had gone off. The 428 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 4: people who died would be this is the way they 429 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 4: would be covered. They would have provoked in the Muslim 430 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: Terror Act, and they would their skirts were too death, 431 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 4: their skirts were too short. They're exactly what the argument 432 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 4: would be. They would say if these bombs, thankfully they 433 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: did not go off, if they had gone off and 434 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 4: they had killed people who were protesting, if that had happened, 435 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 4: they would say, oh, they brought this on themselves, just 436 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 4: like many of them on the left tried to say 437 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: about Charlie Kirk immedia, Like literally within an hour of 438 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk being assassinated, people said, well, this is what 439 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: his rhetoric caused. And to Buck's point, it is you 440 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: deserve to get raped if your shirt, if your skirt 441 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 4: is too short. I mean that's basically you're blaming someone 442 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 4: who is a victim of a crime that they had 443 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 4: no involvement on at all. That's immediately what we wouldn't 444 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 4: go to. Did you see this some idiot city councilmen, 445 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 4: I think for Manhattan or something. 446 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: I forget. 447 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 4: I used to live there, but I can't keep track 448 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 4: all these politicians, local politicians who do nothing. But he 449 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: essentially indicated with a tweet that the problem that the 450 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 4: cause of violence was the protesters, not a counter protest. 451 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: Of course, so that was. 452 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: The real problem with the people that are saying, hey, 453 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,120 Speaker 4: we got too many Islamic terrorists in the city. 454 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: I'm worried about it. 455 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 4: Not the Islamic terrorists who show up with the bomb 456 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 4: with ball bearings to rip through people's you know, every 457 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: thing possibly can. And again this is important too. Let's 458 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: say they had a gun. Sometimes people can engage, well 459 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: you have, you know, heat of the moment, the heat 460 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 4: of the moment, you can decide to engage in an 461 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 4: act that you didn't anticipate. 462 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: If you always carry a. 463 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: Gun for instance, Right, I don't think very many people 464 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 4: make bombs and go and then are provoked. When you 465 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: make a bomb, it's pretty premeditated. And by the way, 466 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 4: Elon Musk has now responded to hear too about this 467 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 4: guy on videotape who's talking about diversity as our strength 468 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 4: and everybody is welcome here. Being used as a footstool 469 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: by a homicidal maniac probably didn't change that Libtard's suicidal 470 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 4: empathy views at all. Death of the West is what 471 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 4: they all want. And I do think this is where 472 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: you kind of get to the scary part here. There 473 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 4: is such a lack of willingness to acknowledge good and 474 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 4: evil that many people on the left have so bought 475 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 4: into the idea. 476 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: And this is why all this matters. 477 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 4: That America is the bad guy that they cannot conceptualize 478 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 4: or comprehend true evil when it exists. And so many 479 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: of you have friends and family that you see engaging 480 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 4: in this line of thought. This is why American history matters. 481 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 4: This is why the way that we talk about our 482 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 4: nation matters. This is why Western civilization being celebrated as 483 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: a good thing matters, because if you do not endorse 484 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 4: that view, then you have lost the ability to see 485 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: good and evil. And even in that moment, I would 486 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: like to hear from this guy who was used as 487 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: a propulsion device to throw this bomb, he should sit 488 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 4: back and say, wait a minute, Maybe people who have 489 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 4: different opinions than me are not the real evil. Maybe 490 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 4: people throwing bombs are the real evil. And yet there 491 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: is this cognitive inability. I know you wrote about it, Buck, 492 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 4: but I do think this is one of the real 493 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 4: downsides among many of the collapse of religion. It has 494 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 4: forced many people to buy into anti Americanism as their religion. 495 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 4: And instead of instead of finding something to pour your 496 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 4: heart and soul and energy and effort into that empty vessel, 497 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 4: they have decided its politics, and in particular anti American politics, 498 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 4: and it's destroying the country. 499 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: Well, this is in that book that Sean Hannity gave 500 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: such kind words about manufacturing delusion, which a lot of 501 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: you have bought and not all of you, And I 502 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: have to say, why not, because it's such an excellent book, Clay. 503 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: I get into identity construction one of the chapters, and 504 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: creating a world in which you are the victim even 505 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: as you are victimizing is so powerful, you know, and 506 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: this is right right at the heart of Palestinian ideology 507 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: with Hamas and dealing with Israel. 508 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 4: You're the victim, even when you're walking into a crowded 509 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: pizzeria with a suicide vest on to kill everybody there 510 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 4: you never even met before. You're the victim while you're 511 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 4: the guy doing that. That is the ideology, that is 512 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 4: the construct, the identity construction that they engage in. And 513 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: obviously there's no accountability to this and no ethics or 514 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 4: morality to it whatsoever. And that's what you have here 515 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: as well. With these people who are showing up. They 516 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: have convinced themselves that they have to do this because 517 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: if they don't throw a bomb into a protest, then 518 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 4: these people are coming for them next, you know, then 519 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: the Kufar will march on them. They're insane. This is 520 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 4: also a couple of things also that are important reports 521 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: that this I call him a kid because to me, 522 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 4: if you're you know, nineteen twenty years old, to me, 523 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 4: you're still a kid, because I'm getting older. But this 524 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 4: kid grew up in the Philadelphia suburbs in a million 525 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 4: dollar home, so his parents were immigrants. He grew up 526 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 4: in a million dollar home. He had all the benefits 527 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 4: of America, all the benefits of American education, and went online, 528 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 4: and as many people do, his brain was polluted there 529 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 4: to the point where he decides that he's going to 530 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 4: try to blow up a protest in New York City. 531 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: Terrorism comes from ideology and emotional response to messaging. It's 532 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: not about deprivation, it's not ab poverty, it's not about 533 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 4: lack of options. 534 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: That's this has all. 535 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: Been debunked and refuted and dealt with and and and 536 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: I mean in the classical terrorism analysis of a last 537 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: few decades, they've looked into all of this. There's a 538 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: reason why a lot of terrorists are called like, you know, 539 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: the engineer. 540 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 2: There's a reason why a lot. 541 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 4: Of terrorists have advanced degrees. You know, Osama bin Lauden 542 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 4: was super rich. His his number two was a medical doctor. Like, 543 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 4: these are not people that grew up in some hut 544 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 4: with no running water and they had no choice but 545 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 4: to do this. That's actually not the root cause of terrorism. 546 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: To your point, Sometimes they're very i mean, look at 547 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: bin Laden. Sometimes they're incredibly wealthy. And let's play this 548 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: cut as we get ready to go to break two 549 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 4: buck here is we actually have the audio of the 550 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 4: liberal man in New York City arguing that everybody should 551 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: be welcome in America as a terrorist jumps, using his 552 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: back as a spring board to throw what he hopes 553 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: is going to be an explosive device to kill as 554 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 4: many people as possible. 555 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: Cut thirty two. 556 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 5: Were going and raised in New York, and we want 557 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: everyone here to stay in New York. 558 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 4: You don't get to come from outside and then tell everyone. 559 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 4: You can hear the scream as people recognize that there 560 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 4: has just been what was supposed to be an explosive 561 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 4: device thrown, as this left wing New Yorker is standing 562 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: there with a megaphone arguing that we want everyone in 563 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 4: the country and that we don't want anyone kicked out. 564 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: I mean, it really is. 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The iPhone has been buck 602 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 4: I bet you would agree with me on this, the 603 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 4: most transformative addition to the average American life in the 604 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 4: twenty first century. If I asked you since two thousand, 605 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 4: what has changed life more than the iPhone? Would you 606 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 4: probably agree with me iPhone most transformative? 607 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Probably. 608 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: I think Tesla's self drive is as impressive and potentially 609 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 4: headed to be more informative than the iPhone when you 610 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: think about it. Now, the iPhone's been out since I 611 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: think like two thousand and six or something, so we've 612 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: had twenty years of applications associated with the iPhone. For instance, 613 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: Uber you know wouldn't exist if the iPhone hadn't existed first, 614 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 4: and other words businesses built on top of it. 615 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: Tesla's self drive. 616 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 4: Is the most incredible technological advancement I believe in the 617 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 4: twenty first century. If you haven't experienced it, trust me. 618 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm not getting paid anything on this. It is unbelievable. 619 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: But not everybody has bought in. Podcast listener Tim from 620 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: the Detroit area, he's angry, cut be. 621 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 6: Go under those expensive schools at Travis Want too. You 622 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 6: think he had learned something, Well, stupid is a stupid does? 623 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 6: He apparently bought into the Green New Deal. Guess what, 624 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 6: I'm not buying it in orders my family, You're done, goodbye. 625 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 2: I don't understand. 626 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: I don't There is no more American car right now 627 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: than Tesla. To be clear, there is no more American 628 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 4: company right now than Tesla. Has nothing to do with 629 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 4: the Green New Deal at all, period, full stop. 630 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: It's built here. It is an amazing vehicle. It is 631 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: maybe evil. 632 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 4: I think there is a strong argument that Elon is 633 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 4: the most successful capitalist in the history of capitalism. 634 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 2: He is. I saw him tweet the other day. 635 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 4: AOC was coming after him, calling him a billionaire moron, 636 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 4: and he just responded with an asterisk trillionaire. If he's 637 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 4: not already, he is soon to be a trillionaire. 638 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 2: That that is pretty big. That's pretty big time. Can 639 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: you imagine that's pretty amazing. 640 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 4: The AOC of all people had the audacity to accuse 641 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 4: Elon Musk of not having accomplished anything when SpaceX goes public. 642 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 4: If you look at Starlink rocket Ships, Tesla the boring company, 643 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 4: they're drilling right now in Nashville so you can get 644 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 4: to the airport faster my home town. I don't think 645 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 4: there's anyone who's ever done more in capitalism than a 646 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 4: Elon And again, I'm just telling you, if you like 647 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 4: tech at all, go you can do it for free. 648 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 4: Self drive, take a ride and check it out and 649 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 4: tell me that you aren't blown away. It's like being 650 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: in the future. When I'm in my Tesla, I don't drive. 651 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 4: I let it auto drive for me. You got teenage 652 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 4: kids like I do. It's way safer than them driving. 653 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: It is maybe the greatest invention of the twenty first century. 654 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 4: When we come back, Buck, have you've seen these TSA 655 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 4: lines that are that are occurring all over the country. 656 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,919 Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. We've got to get this ended. 657 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 4: There's still a shutdown, believe it or not, because of 658 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 4: Democrats we'll talk about it next