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Speaker 1: Hi, This is blas Night and welcome to the Taking

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Speaker 1: a Walk Podcast. Another look at this week in music

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Speaker 1: history for the week of July the fourteenth, and we

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Speaker 1: go right away over to the music history desk to

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Speaker 1: the one and only Harry Jacobs. Hello, Harry, Well.

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Speaker 2: It's pleasure to be here. I am I am, I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't need to remind you. I am the

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Speaker 2: music mave and I am the king of the history Desk.

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Speaker 2: I am a number. I can't even remember all the

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Speaker 2: names you've given me, but i'm.

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Speaker 3: Something the purveyor of music history.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, let's get off with a bang. Here.

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Speaker 2: July fourteenth through the twentieth is the week we're covering.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty seven. On July fourteenth, to who began their

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Speaker 2: first major US tour. They opened for Herman's Hermits. They

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Speaker 2: explain was that the big track from which.

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Speaker 3: Album, Meaty, Beady, big in Bouncy.

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Speaker 2: Just giving you a chance, you know, a couple times

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Speaker 2: altogether in one sentence. Meati, beaty, big in Bouncy. But

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Speaker 2: US with Herman's Hermits and a big day for them.

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Speaker 2: This is a surprising one. It's kind of fitting that

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Speaker 2: we go from the who who had a reputation. Keith

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Speaker 2: had a reputation of smashing guitars. In nineteen seventy three,

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Speaker 2: probably before Pete Townsend ever smaster's first guitar, the Everly

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Speaker 2: of all places, in California. Phil Everley got pissed, smashed

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Speaker 2: you know if Phil Everly had it in him?

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Speaker 1: I didn't know, And it occurs to me. I wonder

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Speaker 1: if a special musician who was part of the Everly

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he was part of them at that moment.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who I'm speaking of? Are you talking

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Speaker 2: about Warren Zevon, Yes, Sir, Warren Zyvon was part of

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Speaker 2: Wow, isn't that interesting Warren Zevon. What Buzz is referring

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Speaker 2: to is that we did a show with Warren Zevon,

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Speaker 2: him at the Hatshell in Boston. And what was interesting

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Speaker 2: did this show, Warren Zevon was juicing. At that time.

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Speaker 2: him a whole bunch of vegetables. Yet he chained smoked

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Speaker 2: through the end of the show, Chain smoked like it

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Speaker 2: was his job. Would only eat vegetables and chain smoke cigarettes,

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Speaker 1: Zevon toured with the Everly Brothers for a couple of

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Speaker 2: You know, multi talented guy, played guitar. We saw him

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Speaker 2: information here on this Week in music history. Nineteen forty five.

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Speaker 2: July fourteenth was the day that Jim Gordon was born.

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Speaker 2: Who is Jim Gordon, you might ask. He was a

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Speaker 1: Laila And it's really one of the most tragic stories

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Speaker 1: In his head, he would he would kill his mother

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Speaker 1: There's a tremendous book written by Joel Selvin. Joel was

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Speaker 1: also the darkness, you know, it's the wrong term, shines through,

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Speaker 2: He Jim suffered from schizophrenia, and this was just at

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Speaker 2: He's a guy who lived with the voices in his

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Speaker 2: you know he died in prison at seventy seven years old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a terrible story, but his musical legacy will

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There are certain songs buzz that you you can

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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty five, one of those songs was released. It

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Speaker 2: was Bob Dylan's Like a Rolling Stone. It starts with

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Speaker 2: I got to feel like, if you were to play

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it sounds good to this day, of course.

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Speaker 1: And when I think of that song, I think of

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Speaker 2: To Dylan fans and non Dylan fans. I watched the

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Speaker 1: And when you're seeing Bob, you know, perform it live,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's now or in the past.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's one of Bob's great performances

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Speaker 1: how does it feel? Everybody would just, you know, hold

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Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy eight, The Stones Some Girls reached number

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Speaker 2: one on the Billboard Top two hundred. You and I

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Speaker 2: have had this discussion about Some Girls, I say at

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Speaker 2: I think it was the last great Stones album. They've

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Speaker 2: had some very good album since then. Boy, there are

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Speaker 2: ten songs on that album, maybe eight of them or

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Speaker 2: nine of them are songs you would put on a

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Speaker 2: all time. Miss You Drove Me a little crazy at

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: A great one, and so many of the songs still

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. In nineteen eighty nine, Tom Petty in a way

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Speaker 2: He left the Heartbreakers behind for a minute recorded Full

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Speaker 2: Moon Fever, his first solo album, and he did a

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Speaker 2: great job. Free Falling came out of that. Think about

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Speaker 2: free Falling in the Tom Cruise Jerry Maguire movie where

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Speaker 2: he was driving. You know, he's in the car singing

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Speaker 2: free Falling at the top of his lungs. Running down

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Speaker 2: it's fun running down the Dream and free falling on

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Speaker 1: And I dare say Running Down the Dream one of

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Speaker 2: Absolutely nineteen fifty six, on July fifteenth, Joe Satriani was born.

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Speaker 2: Sammy Hagar a couple months ago here in Vegas, and

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Speaker 2: running through those van Halen songs like he wrote him.

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Speaker 2: He's every bit as good as Eddie van Halen was.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think he's a guitar sabant, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 1: Oh you remember his song, by the way that got

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Speaker 3: The one I remember was called Satch's Boogie.

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Speaker 2: Now I don't remember that was that in mid the

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Speaker 2: nineties at some point check it out. Yeah, I will.

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Speaker 2: I'll definitely do that. July sixteenth. I'm not speaking of

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Speaker 2: you can guess. Love and Spoonful released Summer in the City,

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Speaker 2: and that's one that had a beat at the beginning,

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Speaker 2: just one single drum beat, and then the song starts

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Speaker 2: a fantastic song, and that was just all about summertime

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds good.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, when the summer finally breaks, at least

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Speaker 2: It's great to crank that one up. I love it.

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Speaker 2: That was one of those songs on the radio that

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Speaker 2: every summer we would pull it and bring it into

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Speaker 2: the time, Like you know, Memorial Day weekend, that song

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Speaker 3: I think I might go listen to it later.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like the idea. Nineteen eighty three,

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Speaker 2: July sixteenth, the Police's Synchronicity hit number one on the

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Speaker 2: Billboard two hundred Every Breath You Take. I mean a

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Speaker 2: was the big song on that. A lot of other

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Speaker 2: great songs walking in Your Footsteps Synchronicity on that as well.

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Speaker 1: I was a fan of the synchronicity that song in particular.

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Speaker 1: A head spinning week, I would say, and we love

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