WEBVTT - The Path Forward: How to Fund DHS, Secure the Border, Pass Election Integrity & Win Historic Conservative Victories

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in as Verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson

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<v Speaker 1>with you, and we've got a pack show for you,

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<v Speaker 1>including predictions that we made in the last show that

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<v Speaker 1>are spot on, and if you could be king for

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<v Speaker 1>a day. I've got something I want to make that

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<v Speaker 1>we should just banon politics.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll deal with that a little bit later, but we

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<v Speaker 2>have big news.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like Republicans are actually going to stand up

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<v Speaker 1>and win on a big issue in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 2>Center fill us in.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's say, first of all, Monday's Pod, we made

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<v Speaker 3>a prediction. We made a prediction that number one Eric

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<v Speaker 3>Swalwell would resign from Congress and number two Tony Gonzalez,

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<v Speaker 3>a Republican, would resign from Congress as well. It is

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday night, it is twelve twenty two in the morning,

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<v Speaker 3>and both of them are gone. Both of them have resigned.

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<v Speaker 3>Both are in scandals. Look, Gonzalez's scandal was really ugly.

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<v Speaker 3>It was not pretty. He had an affair with staffer. Tragically,

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<v Speaker 3>the staffer took.

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<v Speaker 4>Her own life. She literally poured gasoline on herself and

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<v Speaker 4>lit herself on fire. She was the mom of an

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<v Speaker 4>eight year old child. It was horrific, and so his

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<v Speaker 4>stepping down it is not a surprise to anyone that

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<v Speaker 4>needed to happen. And then Swallwell.

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<v Speaker 3>Swalwell almost like pushed Gonzales aside, said, hold my beer,

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<v Speaker 3>I can be more slimy, I could be more nasty

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<v Speaker 3>than you. At this point than the number of women

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<v Speaker 3>who have worked for him who've come out and accused

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<v Speaker 3>him of sexually harassing them, sexually assaulting them, raping them,

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<v Speaker 3>the number keeps spiraling, and so it is fairly amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>A few days ago, Eric Swalwell was the leading candidate

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<v Speaker 3>to be the next governor of California. He is now

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<v Speaker 3>unemployed and I think there's a good likelihood he'll be

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<v Speaker 3>facing criminal prosecution. So wow, the world can change, and

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<v Speaker 3>it turns out if you're a dirt bag, it can

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<v Speaker 3>change really really fast. That prediction we told you about

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday, we were accurate. And look, part of what

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<v Speaker 3>we laid out is the hesitancy Democrats. A day ago,

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<v Speaker 3>we're calling on Swallwell to suspend as a good manatorial campaign,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were not calling on him to leave Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's because the balance of power in Congress is

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<v Speaker 3>exceptionally close. I think part of why this happened today

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<v Speaker 3>is Gonzales stepped down as well, so you had one

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<v Speaker 3>Republican one Democrat, both stepped down, so it didn't alter

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<v Speaker 3>the balance of power. And I believe every one of

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<v Speaker 3>the members of Congress is glad they did so that

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<v Speaker 3>was the right decision.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We've also got a big deal that's going to be happening,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like with Republican leadership, and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what that looks like. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>All right, senator, So you're there in DC. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>just list.

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<v Speaker 2>Round numbers here about one in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>John Thune seemed too as I was it was described

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<v Speaker 1>to me earlier, got some cojones and said he's had

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<v Speaker 1>enough and and by golly, we're going to fight now,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna get funding that we needed. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be done through reconciliation, is what it's looking like. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you explain what has been being said behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>how we finally got to this point, and now what

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<v Speaker 1>actually happens moving forward?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Ben, I want to start by saying, you said

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<v Speaker 3>it's about one in the morning. I said, literally three

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<v Speaker 3>minutes ago that it was twelve twenty two in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, rounding.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, round, o, kid, that's not how you round

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<v Speaker 3>you round down to twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>Round up here. I was giving you more credit. Your

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<v Speaker 1>dedication to the show at a sounds better.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're in Texas, so it's barely eleven o'clock in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Barely eleven twenty five if we're going to get right

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<v Speaker 2>at it right, so it's time for you.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a podcast that's going to insist on truth

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<v Speaker 3>and advertising.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to insist on accuracy. So it is now

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<v Speaker 4>what times now twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that he gets off the mic to get

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<v Speaker 1>his phone to make sure that he knows my.

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<v Speaker 4>Phone is down there. I got to see what time

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<v Speaker 4>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So those glasses and those here and aids, we just

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<v Speaker 1>got to get him for your next birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>But keep going. I'm ready, all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you know man, I'm tempted to hold up a

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<v Speaker 3>finger foot to you, and it's not the thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the thumb, and we're gonna save that for

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<v Speaker 1>later in the show. We're gonna save that for later

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<v Speaker 1>in the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to give you a segue there make

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<v Speaker 3>your day.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll give this segue before the show started today.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just pull back the curtain. I said, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to see a poll that is done on how

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<v Speaker 1>untrustworthy people think politicians are both sides out if in

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<v Speaker 1>every picture you take, you're doing the thumbs up post, like,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just me because I see more political pictures

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<v Speaker 1>than than average Americans, but I despise all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>I find a picture of me with a thumbs up like,

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<v Speaker 1>you will not find that on the internet anywhere. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna do that pose. I don't care who's standing

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<v Speaker 1>next to me. And I think you would trust Americans

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<v Speaker 1>more as you described it with a middle finger than

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<v Speaker 1>you would like a politician with a thumbs up picture.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I was king for a day, I would

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<v Speaker 2>ban it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I will confess, Ben, I.

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<v Speaker 2>You've done the thumbs up picture. I googled it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't do a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the most common place I do a thumbs up

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<v Speaker 3>picture is if I'm taking a picture with Aggie's. So

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<v Speaker 3>Aggie's will do a gigam and that's that's the symbol

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<v Speaker 3>for Texas A and M, and I'll do a hook

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<v Speaker 3>them for longhorns as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So I my guess is neither of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Just for the record, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know that's that's okay, you came to Texas, but it

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<v Speaker 3>took you a while.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>And so.

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<v Speaker 3>My guess is eighty percent of the pictures that are

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<v Speaker 3>thumbs up that I've done have been with Aggie's and

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<v Speaker 3>then there's been a handful where someone really occasionally someone

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<v Speaker 3>was like, hey, will you do a thumbs up?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, all right, fine, like if you really

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<v Speaker 4>want to.

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<v Speaker 2>But that is not my thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will tell you an interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, do you know I feel about this

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<v Speaker 1>not really In the first Trump administration, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>in the Oval, somebody said, are you going to do

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<v Speaker 1>the thumbs up? I was like, I will not. I

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<v Speaker 1>will not do the thumbs up. And if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at the picture that they sent, I did not do

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<v Speaker 1>a thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 2>I smiled. I did not do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd do the thumbs up very rarely. But I will

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<v Speaker 3>tell you a funny story about thumbs up. So it

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<v Speaker 3>is like six seven years ago, I was down at

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<v Speaker 3>the border, and I was at a border patrol checkpoint

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<v Speaker 3>at our southern border where there were a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen wheelers crossing from Mexico over to the United States

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<v Speaker 3>over to Texas, and I was just standing at the checkpoint,

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<v Speaker 3>and I got to say, if you're a truck driver

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<v Speaker 3>and you're driving across the border, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things you may be expecting to see at the

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<v Speaker 3>border patrol checkpoint, but the US senator from Texas is.

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<v Speaker 4>Not one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so the looks of startled shock from every

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<v Speaker 3>truck driver. It was really quite amusing because I stood

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<v Speaker 3>there probably an hour or so and like geted every

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<v Speaker 3>truck driver, and I took an informal survey. So a

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<v Speaker 3>number of the truck drivers gave me a thumbs up

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<v Speaker 3>and the remaining one gave me a middle finger. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And it was I gotta say, I actually felt pretty

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<v Speaker 3>good about the truck driver survey because I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was about eighty twenty, so about eighty percent got the

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<v Speaker 3>thumbs up and about twenty percent flipped me off. And

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, all right, I'll take those odds. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>truck drivers are my peeps.

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<v Speaker 2>The rod number.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the Republican Party has become a blue collar party,

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<v Speaker 3>like truck drivers, steel workers, construction workers, cops, firefighters, waiters

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<v Speaker 3>and waitresses. That's our base. But it was still a

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<v Speaker 3>fun because it literally was. It's amazing. Almost every truck

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<v Speaker 3>driver it was one of two fingers, and I got it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't remember how much, but it felt

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<v Speaker 3>like close to one hundred percent that they would give

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<v Speaker 3>me one finger or the other.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good odds there By the way, on Saturday, I

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<v Speaker 1>worked out, I did get a middle finger in the

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<v Speaker 1>gym from a liberal. And I mean, I'm I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there and I have my headphones in and I'm listening

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<v Speaker 1>to music and this guy just you just you could

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<v Speaker 1>just tell he just was wanting to talk and he

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<v Speaker 1>just decided he'd had enough and he just he just

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<v Speaker 1>put it right out there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, all right, well, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to lifting weights now.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was a random dude. And it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 3>Anna who was pissed at you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was not that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it was just a random liberal who, if he's

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<v Speaker 1>listened to the show like that was probably the highlight

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<v Speaker 1>of his whole year. And I'm glad he had that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I could facilitate that for him.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel confident we don't have a lot of random

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<v Speaker 3>liberals listen to this podcast. We have reporters because when

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<v Speaker 3>I walk on Capitol Hill and people ask me questions,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say, oh, I just addressed that in the podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Why don't you listen to the podcast?

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<v Speaker 3>And then they go listen to the podcast and they

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<v Speaker 3>write stories and like break news because we break news.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's talk reconciliation because we're actually going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about real and hard news. So Department of Homeland

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<v Speaker 3>Security has been shut down for two months. Yep, the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats do not care. So understand, for two months, Coast

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<v Speaker 3>guardsmen have not been paid, Secret Service agents have not

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<v Speaker 3>been paid. FEMA has not been paid. Department of Homeland Security,

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<v Speaker 3>the people that are fighting cyber terrorism, the people that

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<v Speaker 3>are fighting bioterrorism, they have not been paid. About two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand federal employees have not been paid for two months.

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<v Speaker 3>And the sad reality is not a Democrat I believe

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<v Speaker 3>cares And a big part of the reason they don't

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<v Speaker 3>care is the media is not holding them accountable, so

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<v Speaker 3>they're having no consequence. So Brian Schotz, who is Democrat

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<v Speaker 3>senator from Hawaii, he's widely viewed as the Democrat leader

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<v Speaker 3>in waiting after Chuck Schumer. He said about a month ago,

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<v Speaker 3>he said, Democrats are serene during the shutdowns, the longest

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<v Speaker 3>shutdown in American history. About six weeks ago, I stood

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<v Speaker 3>up to my colleagues in the Senate and I said

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<v Speaker 3>the Republicans, and I said, look, the Democrats are wildly unreasonable.

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<v Speaker 4>It is bizarre.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think where Democrats are right now is I

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<v Speaker 3>think they will never ever ever vote again to fund Ice.

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<v Speaker 3>Their base just hates Ice, and this is an open border's,

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<v Speaker 3>pro violent criminal party, and I think from their perspective,

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<v Speaker 3>they will vote against funding ICE forever, and they're perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>happy to shut down all of DHS to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>The irony is DHS is defunded. You know what is

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<v Speaker 3>funded Ice?

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<v Speaker 4>Ice. So when we took Plaine.

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<v Speaker 2>That quickly ToView the man missed those episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>When we passed the Reconciliation Bill last summer, the working

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<v Speaker 3>Family's tax cut, we funded ICE, and we funded customs

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<v Speaker 3>and border patrol for the next three years because we

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<v Speaker 3>knew Democrats were getting unreasonable. And so the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>DHS is shut down, but ICE is alive, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is literally the case that Democrats are voting to cut

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<v Speaker 3>off funding for Coast Guarden, FEMA and Secret Service and

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<v Speaker 3>all the rest because they're mad at ICE and ice

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<v Speaker 3>get is fully funded. That being said, here's what I

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<v Speaker 3>said six weeks ago to my colleagues. I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>this is where Democrats are. It is wildly unreasonable, it

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<v Speaker 3>is indefensible, but it's where they are. So here's the

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<v Speaker 3>approach forward. There were some Republican senators. They're saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do nothing. The pressure will build on Democrats and

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<v Speaker 3>eventually they'll cave. And I said, you know what, they

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<v Speaker 3>will never cave. They will leave DHS shut down for

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<v Speaker 3>the entire year. And part of it is if the

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<v Speaker 3>media were functional and real, they wouldn't because they'd feel heat.

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<v Speaker 3>But nobody in the media is blaming them. And by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, the standard media trick is they blame both parties. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Congress is broken. That's how they give cover to the Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>To be clear, I have voted sixteen times in the

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<v Speaker 3>last two months to fund DHS. Democrats have voted sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>times to defund DHS. It's not both parties. The people

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<v Speaker 3>who are voting to fund it are not responsible. In

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<v Speaker 3>the way that the people are voting to defund it

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<v Speaker 3>are The reason DHS is shut down is it takes

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<v Speaker 3>sixty votes. We only have fifty three Republicans, which means

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats can shut it down and they're doing so.

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<v Speaker 3>Now what I urge is, I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>let's pass a bill that funds DHS, and if the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats are so unreasonable they will not fund ICE and CBP,

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<v Speaker 3>let's exclude them. Let's fund everything else. That's what the

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<v Speaker 3>Senate did two weeks ago. It then went to the

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<v Speaker 3>House and I got to say, House Republicans, they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of lost their minds and they began screaming, We're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to defund ICE. Now that claim was always false

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<v Speaker 3>because ICE is fully funded. ICE is funded through the

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<v Speaker 3>Reconciliation Bill. But I understand the sort of shock because

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<v Speaker 3>the position of the Democrats is so wildly unreasonable that

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<v Speaker 3>House Republicans were pissed. But the consequence they voted down

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<v Speaker 3>the Senate bill and it meant DHS stay shut down.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just think House Republicans had not gotten to

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<v Speaker 3>the point where they have accepted, where they've internalized these

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<v Speaker 3>are the crazy ass Democrats of the Senate we're dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with and they're never ever ever going to fund ICE again.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's what I suggested. Fund all of dhs except

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<v Speaker 3>ICE and CVP, and then immediately take up a budget reconciliation.

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<v Speaker 3>Budget reconciliation cannot be filibustered. The Democrats cannot block it.

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<v Speaker 3>We can pass it with just fifty Republicans in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 3>and we should fully fund ICE.

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<v Speaker 4>And I will tell you today.

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<v Speaker 3>So every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday, when the Senate is

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<v Speaker 3>in session, Senate Republicans have lunch together. So today Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>we had lunch and we had.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you a question.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say you guys have lunch, is it working

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<v Speaker 1>groups at tables or is there like a big speaker?

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<v Speaker 2>How does the lunch actually work? So people understand.

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<v Speaker 3>So there are two rooms that you have lunch in

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<v Speaker 3>in the Senate. One is the LBJ room. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>smaller room, it's just off the Senate floor. The minority

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<v Speaker 3>gets the LBJ room, and then the bigger room is

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<v Speaker 3>the Michael Mansfield Room, named after Montana Senator Senate Majority

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<v Speaker 3>Leader Michael Mansfield, and it's a larger room. So whoever's

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<v Speaker 3>in the majority gets the man's fe old room, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, for personal reasons, what do you eat there?

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<v Speaker 4>So there's actually different.

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<v Speaker 2>Centers that do it. How's that like? Is there a host?

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<v Speaker 3>So Tuesday and Wednesday there is Senate catering and there's

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<v Speaker 3>like a catering office in the Senate that brings in food.

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<v Speaker 3>It ferries like today we had some beef and some

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<v Speaker 3>chicken and broccoli and green beans. I mean, catering is

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<v Speaker 3>actually pretty good. I mean one of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm surprised, just like the food they provide at the

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<v Speaker 3>Senate lunches is surprisingly decent. And those are Senate employees

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<v Speaker 3>that do the catering on the Capitol and so events there.

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<v Speaker 3>They provide catering for any meal and we have dinners

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<v Speaker 3>and lunches and things that are on the Capitol. So

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday and Wednesday the Senate Catering provides that, and then Thursdays.

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<v Speaker 3>The way it works among Republicans is it rotates among

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<v Speaker 3>different senators who hosts. So typically like I host about

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<v Speaker 3>once a year, and when you host, you usually fly

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<v Speaker 3>in food from your home state. So for example, when

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<v Speaker 3>I host, I fly in food from Texas. It's typically

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<v Speaker 3>either barbecue or Mexican or the two things that I've done.

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<v Speaker 4>I've done. I usually do barbecue.

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<v Speaker 3>I sometimes do Mexican, so I'll fly in either you know,

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<v Speaker 3>different barbecue places in Texas where we'll'll fly the food in.

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<v Speaker 3>And then what actually happens when you host is you

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<v Speaker 3>send a gift bag to your other senators. And the

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<v Speaker 3>gift bag is usually a collection of stuff from your state.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'll usually pick up some stuff like some you know,

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<v Speaker 3>HB tortilla chips and salsa and you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>different and you kind of put a gift bag together

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<v Speaker 3>that I don't know. It's about one hundred bucks worth

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<v Speaker 3>of different stuff from the state that you collect and

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<v Speaker 3>you send it. Oddly enough, senators send a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>booze to each other, so I actually have I have

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<v Speaker 3>a whole shelf in my office filled with booze that

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<v Speaker 3>senators have sent me. And I don't drink the booze

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<v Speaker 3>very much, so it just sits there. It collects faster

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<v Speaker 3>than I drink it. But you have varying senators that

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<v Speaker 3>will send like the Kentucky senators will usually send it.

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<v Speaker 1>Burban around to win that ball game, right, And then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming Texas jo like, here's some Tito's.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done Tito's. I've done Schiner back is what I

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<v Speaker 3>usually send. I'll off and send a six pack of

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<v Speaker 3>schiner Bach. I have done Tito's in the past. Those

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<v Speaker 3>those have been the two that are kind of you

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<v Speaker 3>pick a collection of stuff that sort of reflects your state.

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<v Speaker 3>And so today we had and the Tuesday lunch is

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<v Speaker 3>the leadership lunch, so leadership runs it. The Wednesday lunch

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<v Speaker 3>is the steering lunch. Steering are the more conservative senators.

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Scott is right now the chairman of Steering. There's

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<v Speaker 3>about a dozen of us that are on the Executive

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<v Speaker 3>Committee of Steering. I'm on the Executive Committee. They are

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<v Speaker 3>by design the most conservative senators. So the Wednesday lunch

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<v Speaker 3>tends to be more policy driven. But we typically meet

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<v Speaker 3>from about twelve thirty to two, so it's anywhere from

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<v Speaker 3>an hour to hour and a half. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people get there about one, so it's typically one to two.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes it's twelve thirty or too. But you have a

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<v Speaker 3>good hour of robust discussion and it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Of say it room where someone has a four and

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<v Speaker 1>is talking then someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>So it lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like you're sitting there hanging out with your

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<v Speaker 1>buddies and then for fifteen minutes someone speaks.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the floor. It's actually a real working lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a working lunch, and actually a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>work gets done. And so I try to make the

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<v Speaker 3>lunch every day because you have real debates and discussions

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<v Speaker 3>with your colleagues. And so today we had this was

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<v Speaker 3>the leadership lunch today, and so you had a presentation

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<v Speaker 3>from John Thune and from Lindsey Graham about the plan.

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<v Speaker 3>And the plan is to take up a reconciliation bill,

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<v Speaker 3>which is what I proposed six weeks ago. They are

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<v Speaker 3>planning right now to fund DHS and ICE for three

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<v Speaker 3>and a half years through fiscal year twenty twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>And they want to keep the bill very narrowly limited

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<v Speaker 3>to just ICE and CBP, And so I stood up.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually talked at.

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<v Speaker 3>Length today and I made a pretty vigorous argument. I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a no brainer. We need to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the right thing to do. Absolutely all of us

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<v Speaker 3>agree with us. But I said, I think we're making

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<v Speaker 3>three very serious mistakes. Number one, I think the proposal

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<v Speaker 3>to fund icen CBP for three and a half years

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<v Speaker 3>is a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>We should enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we should fund them for ten years. Ten years

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<v Speaker 3>is the limit under the statute for how long you

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<v Speaker 3>can fund anything under budget reconciliation. And I said, the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrats are going to vote against border security, against ICE

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<v Speaker 3>and CBP for the foreseeable future. If that's the case,

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<v Speaker 3>let's fund it for a decade. Let's take the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>we have right now to ensure that border security is

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<v Speaker 3>funded for ten years.

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<v Speaker 4>I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Secondly, if we simply respond to the Democrats' legislative terrorism

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<v Speaker 3>shutting down DHS by funding what we would have funded ordinarily,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's really dumb. What I have argued is

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<v Speaker 3>we ought to increase the funding for ICE by ten percent,

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<v Speaker 3>so that the consequence and this is it's a policy decision,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's also a political decision. The consequence of Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 3>Warren and Bernie Sanders shutting down the government for two

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<v Speaker 3>months and going nuts on border securities. Congratulations, Elizabeth, you

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<v Speaker 3>just increased the funding for ICE by ten percent. That's

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<v Speaker 3>just rather than beyond defense, let's go on offense and say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, we are the Party of Border Security.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to fund it. And because you guys were

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<v Speaker 3>wildly unreasonable, we had a bipartisan agreement on DHS funding

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<v Speaker 3>until the Democrats backed out of it. So the consequence

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<v Speaker 3>of your stupidity is you increase the funding of ICE.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a no brainer. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>my colleagues will agree with either of those points, the

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<v Speaker 3>ten years or increase in the work.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, why would they not agree the ten years?

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<v Speaker 1>And my cynical view is always I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>there first. Is it because they'd want it to be

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<v Speaker 1>an election your issue within the next ten years, or

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<v Speaker 1>therefore they're saying, now, hey, let's fight on this in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 4>Again, No, it's not that, it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Cynical politics has made me certain this want to be clear. Yeah, Like, look.

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately, I'm like, I could see something like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to. I like this issue I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to come up every couple of years. I can fight

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<v Speaker 1>over it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Look that there's a natural instinct of essentially playing small ball,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is the outcome of negotiations between John Thune,

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<v Speaker 3>Lindsey Graham, and the White House. And I think the

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<v Speaker 3>White House is playing small ball too, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>am urging the White House. Let's go ten years, let's

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<v Speaker 3>up the budget. I've made this case to the White House.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not there yet, and so they're focused on the

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<v Speaker 3>challenge right in front of us rather than the challenge tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 4>But here's the big case.

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<v Speaker 3>That I made, and I leaned in really aggressively. I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>we should do a reconciliation bill. We should fund ICE,

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<v Speaker 3>do it for ten years. We should fund CVP, do

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<v Speaker 3>it for ten years. We should up the budgets, but

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<v Speaker 3>we shouldn't limit it to just those two. We should

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<v Speaker 3>do a much broader reconciliation bill. In the case I

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<v Speaker 3>made to my colleagues, I said, this, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>last meaningful chance we will have to pass Republican priorities.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's a very real chance right now. It's substantially

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<v Speaker 3>more likely than not that we will lose at least

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<v Speaker 3>the House in November. We may lose the Senate to

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.960
<v Speaker 3>If that's right, then we have just the remainder of

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:24.800
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty six to pass conservative victories, because starting next year,

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 3>the House will be nothing but all impeachment and all

0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:29.600
<v Speaker 3>investigations all the time, and so we will not be

0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 3>able to pass conservative priorities. So my case to my

0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.680
<v Speaker 3>colleagues was, we ought to take this up and use reconciliation,

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 3>just like we did last year on the fourth of

0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:40.879
<v Speaker 3>July where we passed the Working Families tax gut and

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.879
<v Speaker 3>had a massive number of conservative victories. We ought to

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:45.479
<v Speaker 3>do it again, and I suggested there are a lot

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:47.119
<v Speaker 3>of things we can do. So for example, I have

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 3>a bill called Keep America Flying that says the Democrats

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:56.480
<v Speaker 3>will never again be able to shut down civilian air traffic.

0:22:56.680 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 3>So they won't be able to defund air traffic controllers,

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 3>they won't be able to defund the TSA, they won't

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 3>be able to defund the federal workers that are critical

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.440
<v Speaker 3>to keep planes in the air. By the way, September

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 3>thirtieth budget funding is going to expire again right now,

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the Democrats are going to force another shutdown. One hundred percent.

0:23:15.359 --> 0:23:19.200
<v Speaker 3>I will wager in some money right before the elections

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 3>they will force a shutdown. I think we are idiots

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 3>to do nothing to prevent them. But the problem is

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 3>a lot of folks in Congress just look an inch

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 3>in front of their nose and they can't look ten

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:33.440
<v Speaker 3>inches in front of their nose. So if we're headed

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:36.119
<v Speaker 3>to a shutdown in September, we'd be morons not to

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.520
<v Speaker 3>do something to forestall it. So one of the things

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.920
<v Speaker 3>we can do is make sure that the four hour

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 3>lines at airports, the people missing their flights for spring break,

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 3>that doesn't happen again. We could pass funding that says

0:23:47.480 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 3>we're going to keep planes flying. Democrats no longer get

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:54.840
<v Speaker 3>to destroy your vacation or destroy your work trip just

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.919
<v Speaker 3>because they're mad. That I think makes a lot of sense.

0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:00.760
<v Speaker 3>What I've verged is we had to do things that

0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:05.280
<v Speaker 3>make sense for the economy. So, for example, an idea

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 3>that I have been pushing hard is indexing capital gains

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 3>to inflation. So the way it works, let's say ten

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 3>years ago you bought a stock for one hundred dollars,

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 3>and in the course of ten years, inflation has driven

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 3>the cost of that stock to two hundred dollars. Now,

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.200
<v Speaker 3>if that's all inflation, you don't have any meaningful gain.

0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 3>But if you sell that stock at two hundred dollars,

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.119
<v Speaker 3>you pay capital gains tax on the difference between one

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 3>hundred dollars and two hundred dollars. And that's a phantom gain.

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 3>And so what I believe is you ought to index

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 3>capital gains to inflation, which means whatever the inflation is

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 3>you base, you raise the basis, you raise the cost

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 3>of whatever it is you've invested. That would have a

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 3>massive positive stimulus effect for the economy, and affordability is

0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 3>a huge issue for the voters. It has an enormous

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.639
<v Speaker 3>impact on housing. So here's what's in interesting. If you

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 3>have a house. Let's say you bought a house and

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 3>the house is appreciated massively in value, the same principle

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:09.520
<v Speaker 3>is true if you sell it. If the appreciation is

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 3>due to inflation, you pay taxes on that. Yeah, and

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.880
<v Speaker 3>so what happens is a lot of people don't sell

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:19.200
<v Speaker 3>their house when you die. If you pass your house

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 3>onto your kids, the basis steps up, which means your

0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 3>kids take it not at the cost you paid, but

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 3>whatever the cost is when they inherit it, so that

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 3>capital gains tax disappears when you die. What it results in,

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 3>particularly in high tax states, is people holding onto houses

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 3>a really long time in not selling them.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's an amazing question.

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 3>Man, California, which has among the highest taxes in the country. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>what percent of hopes do you think are passed on it?

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<v Speaker 3>Death and other words are held on too so long

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 3>because the capital gains tax would be so high.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I'm going to totally guess. I would

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.600
<v Speaker 1>say at least forty percent. Now I may be wrong,

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.359
<v Speaker 1>but I know people that they get they that's how

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.480
<v Speaker 1>they got their parents' house for the same reason you

0:26:07.560 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 1>just described it.

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 3>So you are wrong. That's a little too aggressive. It's

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 3>about twenty five percent. But twenty five.

0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Percent saying, by the way, because like in Texas, what

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 1>is it three percent, four percent.

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.000
<v Speaker 3>It's much lower. I don't know the Texas number, but

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 3>it's much lower. And the consequence, Let's say you have

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 3>a family that has a bunch of kids. They buy

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:26.719
<v Speaker 3>a big house and they raise their kids in it,

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:30.680
<v Speaker 3>and then their kids graduate, go off into the world,

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:34.520
<v Speaker 3>and you've just got an older, retired family. Now, many

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 3>like an older required couple, doesn't need a big house

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 3>with a bunch of bedrooms. In a normal world, they

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.479
<v Speaker 3>would sell that house. They'd put it on the market

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 3>and they'd buy like they'd buy a smaller little town

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 3>home or condo. They'd buy something that is more appropriate

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 3>to their stage in life, but especially in California and

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 3>other high tax states, they don't do that because their

0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 3>tax bill would be huge. So the effect of this

0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 3>would be the lower the cost of housing for people

0:26:59.840 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 3>that buying. What it means is a young married couple

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 3>that wants to buy that first house. If there were

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:07.160
<v Speaker 3>more houses on the market, it would drive the prices

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.639
<v Speaker 3>down and they could afford it more. So that's an

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 3>example of something we can do. I also suggested we

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 3>could plus up the school choice provisions. We could plus

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 3>up the Trump account provisions. There are lots of things.

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 3>Ron Johnson is advocated for the Shutdown Fairness Act, which

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:27.919
<v Speaker 3>says that number one, when there's a shutdown, all essential

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:30.359
<v Speaker 3>workers will be paid. Number Two, there's another bill that

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 3>says we won't have shutdowns in the case that you

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 3>don't have funding, you will continue at the prior levels,

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 3>or maybe you'll ratchet down slightly. My point, look what

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 3>I stood up to my colleagues and I said, listen,

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 3>I am not today advocating for any one particular policy.

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 3>And I told them the story. So back in twenty eighteen,

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 3>we had a Republican House, a Republican Senate, we had

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:59.200
<v Speaker 3>a Republican President Donald Trump. And in August of twenty eighteen,

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I gave a presentation to the Senate Republicans and it

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.479
<v Speaker 3>was a PowerPoint. It was about fifty pages long, and

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I called it Carpe DM Seize the Day. And I

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 3>went through in the last hundred years what had happened

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 3>every time the Democrats had had the House, the Senate,

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 3>and the White House, and they pass fundamental transformations of

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 3>this country. They passed the New Deal, they passed the

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Great Society, they passed Obamacare and Dodd Frank like, when

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 3>they have control, they push the pedal to the metal

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 3>and they floor their socialist left wing plans. Republicans, we

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.280
<v Speaker 3>are piddly. We don't do nearly as much. We did

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 3>the working Family's tax cut. That was a big, big victory,

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 3>but we haven't done a whole lot since then. And

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 3>the case I made in twenty eighteen is I said

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 3>we ought to take up another reconciliation. It was the

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.959
<v Speaker 3>vehicle for the biggest legislative victories we have. And I

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 3>had a chart that I put together of like fifty

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 3>bills that different Republican senators had introduced, and I said, listen,

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm not being crazy. I'm not saying we should pass

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 3>all fifty of these. I'm saying, let's pick five. My

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 3>case was not we should do something specific. My case

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 3>was simply, we should do something. And I turned to

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 3>my colleagues, I said that what I said it in

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:16.840
<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen, I talked in particular the class of twenty fourteen.

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 3>There was a big class. Nine new senators Republicans were

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 3>elected in twenty fourteen, and I said, listen, you guys,

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 3>if we don't take this opportunity, we had one hundred

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 3>and eighty three days left in the Congress, this may

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 3>be the last opportunity you ever get to pass.

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 4>Meaning meaningful legislation.

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 3>If we lose the House, you're done, no more legislation,

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 3>forget about it. If that's the case, don't we have

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 3>an urgency to do something? And as I look back

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 3>at my entire tenure in the Senate, the most indefensible

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 3>legislative decision was Mitch McConnell's decision in twenty eighteen not

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 3>to take up another reconciliation.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 4>And I fear that we're repeating them.

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, so look for the last couple

0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 3>of months, I have been searching around for how do

0:30:06.240 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 3>we do another reconciliation. I've been making this case for

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 3>a while, but I've said, what we need is a

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 3>tent pole. What do I mean by a tentpole. I

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 3>mean an idea that is big enough, that is bold enough,

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 3>that is important enough that it will unify fifty Republicans

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 3>in the Senate and two it or eighteen.

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 4>Republicans in the House. Because we have really narrow majority.

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 3>So you've got to have something big enough that everyone

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:31.479
<v Speaker 3>gets behind, and then you could have other provisions carry

0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 3>along if you have a tentpole. In my view, ICE

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 3>and CBP are the tentpole. There is not a Republican.

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't care if you're the most rock rip conservative

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 3>or completely squishy mod No Republican wants to vote against

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 3>funding ICE and CBP. That is a tent pole that

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.400
<v Speaker 3>can carry the rest of it. And so that's the

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 3>case I'm making to my colleagues right now. The White

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 3>House is not on board, and my intention is I'm

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 3>going to make this case to President Trump directly. I

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.479
<v Speaker 3>have not done so yet. Today was the beginning of it,

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 3>making it to my colleagues in the Senate. But I

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 3>think this is a decision do we swing for the

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 3>fences and get victories, economic victories that we can campaign

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 3>on and win elections in November, or do we play

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 3>small ball? And by the way, one of the things

0:31:19.480 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 3>that leadership is saying is no, no, we'll do another

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 3>reconciliation after this. Well, you know what, the next reconciliation

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 3>will fail because without a tent poll, without something like

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 3>iceon CBP, you ain't getting fifty and you ain't getting

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.480
<v Speaker 3>to eighteen because the Republicans will scatter on all sorts

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>of different grounds. So you've got to have something big

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 3>enough to bring them together and then we can win

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 3>real victories. That's the case I'm trying to make to

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 3>my colleagues.

0:31:45.400 --> 0:31:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's going to be really interesting how this plays out.

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>And you're right, I think Americans are like, what are

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>you doing for me right now? I wish all the

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.959
<v Speaker 1>Republicans would understand that and be bold like you described it.

0:31:56.040 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>We'll see if that happens.

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise some of your colleagues may not be your colleagues

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>after the election this coming November.

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 3>And Ben, by the way, one of the things that

0:32:04.680 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm also urging my colleagues to include is election integrity,

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 3>to include as much of the Save America Act as

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 3>we can now. Now it is limited because of reconciliation.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 3>There are rules under statute as to what you can

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:21.000
<v Speaker 3>include in reconciliation. It has to be budgetary and not policy.

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 3>And so how you get you can't get the full

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Save America Act in reconciliation, but you can get election

0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 3>integrity provisions. You can, for example, condition federal grants, for example,

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 3>the Help America Vote Act grants, which are grants that

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 3>go to help fund elections. You can condition those on

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 3>election integrity. You can condition those. You can take those

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 3>away from sanctuary cities. So I'm arguing we ought to

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 3>be using like, let's take this opportunity to pass legislation

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 3>that Republicans agree with. Let's win victories. Let's not give

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 3>up the chance to win victories.

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great point.

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:57.719
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep covering it and we'll keep you up

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>to day on what's happening in Washington, d C. Don't

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:02.760
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0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.160
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0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:08.760
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<v Speaker 1>the show Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and a weekend review on

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>Saturdays as well for what you may have missed during

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:15.360
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<v Speaker 1>back here on Friday morning.