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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire, Faan, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight Fire for Thursday, March twentieth, It's ear ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: March Madness. It officially kicks off about what twelve fifteen

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Speaker 2: Eastern nine to fifteen Pacific Today. It is a glorious Thursday,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen. Fortunately, Colin Cowherd was able to get

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Speaker 2: us off today and tomorrow, so your boy will be

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Speaker 2: watching all of the games, consuming all of the content,

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Speaker 2: panicking about all of the brackets. Oh my gosh, I'm

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Speaker 2: so excited. It is going to be so much fun.

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Speaker 2: This is actually a monster day. I will tell you

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Speaker 2: about the cow cutout, well what I can reveal, at

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Speaker 2: least that went down last night. I've got so many bracks.

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Speaker 2: I'm in a million bracket contest. It's just so fun.

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Speaker 2: You get invited to all of them, You're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: twenty bucks, what's a big deal. It's just so fun.

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Speaker 1: Guys.

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Speaker 2: I love this so much, and I know not everybody

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Speaker 2: loves it as much as me, and that's fine. And

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Speaker 2: some of you will check out after the first two

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Speaker 2: days or three and I'm all in. This weekend's going

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Speaker 2: to be spectacular. I have basically nothing planned except watched basketball. However,

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Speaker 2: big one tonight for the Great Foxes. We are back

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Speaker 2: in the championship, a rematch against the team we played

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Speaker 2: last year. We led the entire game and then blew

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Speaker 2: it in the end, lost by two on two free throws.

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Speaker 2: They never led until the final ten seconds. We should

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Speaker 2: have won the game. We had Richard Jefferson last season.

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Speaker 2: We don't have him this season. He's obviously announcing NBA games.

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Speaker 2: We're just as good. I don't know the other team

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Speaker 2: got better. They got this young guy from who played

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Speaker 2: at the University of San Francisco. I think he was

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Speaker 2: like top fifteen all time for them three point shooting.

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Speaker 2: He's like twenty five. Good player. And then they got

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Speaker 2: this other guy who played briefly at Sienna. His dad

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Speaker 2: was a college basketball coach. I'm not going to say

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Speaker 2: his name because I didn't ask. If I could say it,

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Speaker 2: you would know him. Coached at a prominent school in

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Speaker 2: south of the Mason Dixon line. I'll say in the

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Speaker 2: acc super nice guy and he's pretty good. So listen,

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Speaker 2: they're good. We beat him twice this season, but they

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Speaker 2: didn't have their horse, the big guy, and the other

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Speaker 2: time they were missing their other guard. I'm buddies with

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Speaker 2: both those guys fired up. Unfortunately, I cannot play. I'm

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Speaker 2: still injured with this leg injury. I thought it would

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Speaker 2: I think it's just a deep calf bruise. Like if

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Speaker 2: you stand up straight and try to do a a

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Speaker 2: my left leg, I can do it easy, no problem.

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Speaker 2: But I stand on my right leg and try to

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Speaker 2: do a single leg calf raise, and I cannot do

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Speaker 2: it because it's just immensely painful and the calf is

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Speaker 2: bruised and injured, and the muscles just haven't healed yet.

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Speaker 2: So I am icing, I'm heating. I can't play. I mean, listen.

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Speaker 2: I tried to play in other games that weren't as

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Speaker 2: all I could do. This team doesn't have any players

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Speaker 2: I'll just say that. But let me quickly before our

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Speaker 2: guest today, Doug Gottlieb, the Fox Sports radio host also

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Speaker 2: the coach of Green Bay. Obviously, Doug under a lot

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Speaker 2: of stress this season his first year coaching Division one,

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Speaker 2: and it didn't go great. They won four games, they

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Speaker 2: lost a million games in a row. He talks about that,

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Speaker 2: the transfer portal, life, adjusting to being a head coach.

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Speaker 2: It's fun. I think you guys will like it. There's

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Speaker 2: nobody else in the country who's juggling a radio host

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Speaker 2: job as well as college basketball coaching. And now he's recruiting.

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Speaker 2: He's recruiting D two, D three, try to find anybody

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Speaker 2: to bolster the roster. I think you'll like it. Nice

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Speaker 2: chat with Doug this week leading up to the tournament.

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Speaker 2: I will offer bets that I have on the tournament

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Speaker 2: a lot, not a billion, but a lot. But really quickly.

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Speaker 2: He liked Texas Tech a lot, and the number just

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Speaker 2: keeps going up. They were one of the first teams

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Speaker 2: or Duke, you know, So we punted on Texas Tech,

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Speaker 2: Saint John's I didn't like him. A couple of theirs did,

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Speaker 2: get bonus points. If you're the biggest first round loser

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Speaker 2: go all in on Duke. You know, everybody kind of agreed, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're the best team in net rating college BASKETBA in

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Speaker 2: the last twenty years. Cooper flags should be healthy. Even

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Speaker 2: should be fine. Second round they should still be fine.

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Speaker 2: the bidding war got crazy. It exceeded our budget, that's

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Speaker 2: John Shire, you're the man. You got this. I love Proctor.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to say Kenneppole's first name, it's

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Speaker 2: So we essentially got Duke, which exceeded our budget by himself,

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Speaker 2: I believe today. Yeah, McNee State again and waite Wade.

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Speaker 2: Will Wade, the former coach at LSU, he's at McNee

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Speaker 2: Is he looking at the portal? Do they get blown out?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. They're playing today three point

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Speaker 2: do your kids react to that? Or are they like, hey,

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Speaker 2: He's a damn good coach. Obviously got fired from LSU

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Speaker 2: come join me next year. Like I have no idea

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Speaker 2: what to expect from McNee state. My guess is they

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Speaker 2: the West. I'm sorry, Yes, in the West, So the

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Speaker 2: thirteen through sixteen in the West, Norfolk State. We expect

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Speaker 2: Florida wax them Omaha we expect Saint John's to crush them.

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Speaker 2: Those are two teams that should win by thirty five plus,

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Speaker 2: worried about Arizona Oregon in the Sweet sixteen. Alabama could

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Speaker 2: of my brackets I have VCU. I'm not worried about Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: I'm not really worried about Saint Mary's. This Duke team

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Speaker 2: is a juggernaut, so then they would probably meet Houston

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Speaker 2: in the final four, perhaps Tennessee. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: tough game. It's a rematch used to a while revenge.

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Speaker 2: I just think Duke's a better squad side there. The

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Speaker 2: only teams that really fear me or worry me for

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Speaker 2: Duke are Florida and Auburn, and they wouldn't face them

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Speaker 2: until the championship. So if we win the championship, if

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Speaker 2: they get to the championship and lose, then we break even,

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Speaker 2: maybe win a little bit more if they win the title.

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Speaker 2: You know, drinks on me, guys, next time you see me.

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Speaker 2: All right, quickly picks for Thursday games. The dumbest play

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Speaker 2: that I have is the biggest one Georgia plus six

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Speaker 2: plus six and a half against Gonzaga. Just fading the narrative.

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Speaker 2: I think Zag is good. I don't think they're great.

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Speaker 2: I'm on Houston minus twenty nine. Dumb bet a four

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Speaker 2: fun pizza money parlay Yale to win on the money line,

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Speaker 2: UCSD to win on the money line. You guys know,

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Speaker 2: I'm loaded up on UCSD. That's actually bigger than Georgia.

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Speaker 2: Go Triton's I'm on Louisville minus two small play on

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Speaker 2: high point plus eight. I really don't recommend that bet.

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Speaker 2: In hindsight, Perdue is going to wax him. Unless the

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Speaker 2: Braden Smith transfer stuff is legit, then maybe he's checked out,

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Speaker 2: and Purdue just you know, falls apart. I'm on Drake

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Speaker 2: plus six and a half against Missouri. I have a

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Speaker 2: silly parlay for fun Houston and Florida both to cover

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Speaker 2: twenty nine and twenty eight and a half respectively, and

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Speaker 2: then I did three totals in the early games. Historically

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Speaker 2: I've done this. I just take the under in the

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Speaker 2: three the first three games of the day because they're

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the day, it's the early in

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Speaker 2: the tournament. Jitters galore. So I'm on Montana Wisconsin under

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Speaker 2: one fifty two, Creighton Louisville under one forty five and

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Speaker 2: a half, and High Point Perdue under one fifty four

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Speaker 2: and a half, which, again that's a silly play and

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Speaker 2: Perdue there's a chance Purdue wins that game by twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay College basketball head coach Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back to straight fire. This time

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Speaker 2: And that's Doug Gottlieb, Fox Sports Radio's finest. Also the

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Speaker 4: How's life, man, that's good, man, really good.

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Speaker 3: and you've got to understand the portal. You got to

430
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Speaker 3: deal with agents, So you can't talk to players now,

431
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Speaker 3: but you can talk to agents, and agents won't share

432
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Speaker 3: with you necessarily who's in or who's out, but they

433
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Speaker 3: can kind of get a sense of what you're looking for.

434
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Speaker 3: And right now, everybody's overvalued. You know, every whatever they

435
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Speaker 3: ask for, it's like two three x of what they're

436
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Speaker 3: actually going to get. Yeah, but that's kind of what's

437
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Speaker 3: current going on lastcap. So to go back to your

438
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Speaker 3: question about the N I T and the Crown all

439
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Speaker 3: these other things, like.

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Speaker 4: It's really hard and yeah, remember.

441
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Speaker 3: Every time you're playing a game, all you're doing is

442
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Speaker 3: advertising for the kids on your team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that they can for everybody else, Like, oh, he's

444
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Speaker 4: gonna go in the portal, let me watch him play,

445
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Speaker 4: see if I like him?

446
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that.

447
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Speaker 4: It's gotta be very difficult.

448
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451
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Speaker 2: Because in college football, some teams are scrapping the spring

453
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Speaker 2: game because they're like, why would I put on tape

454
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Speaker 2: that Look at this guy is gonna pop and then

455
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Speaker 2: he you know, he becomes a target in the portal.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask Green Bay. I've never been to the

457
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Speaker 2: town where the school's located. It seems like it's an

458
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Speaker 2: awesome setup. I know you had some reporters pop into town.

459
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Speaker 2: You know, obviously you guys were a hot story this year.

460
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Speaker 2: Is that a draw you think to the school that

461
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Speaker 2: maybe has been underplayed in recent years? Which part just

462
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Speaker 2: the location location, Green.

463
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Speaker 4: Bay, Wisconsin is awesome.

464
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Speaker 3: Everybody knows it for the Packers, nobody knows where it

465
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 3: is and nobody knows how big it is or how

466
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Speaker 3: safe it is. I believe this year was like twelve,

467
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Speaker 3: but for the last five years, I think four of them,

468
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Speaker 3: it's been called the place to live in the United

469
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Speaker 3: States the summer. It's you know where you live is

470
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Speaker 3: the Only problem with Manhattan Beach is that everybody comes

471
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Speaker 3: to Manhattan Beach in the summer. You got a bunch

472
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Speaker 3: of you have a bunch of tourists to come to town.

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Speaker 3: The summer in Green Bay, weatherwise is similar, very limited community.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful. I live right in the water. It's inexpensive

475
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Speaker 3: and people, you know, one's home on summer weekends either

476
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Speaker 3: playing golf or you're.

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Speaker 4: Out in the water.

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Speaker 3: I live on the gateway to Door County. Door County

479
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Speaker 3: is the Cape Cotton Midwest. People from chicag Go and

480
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Speaker 3: from Milwaukee. They all own these cottages, and it sounds

481
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Speaker 3: cottages are really nice in these little towns in Door County,

482
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Speaker 3: which is that little Finger in Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: You know, if you look at Wisconsin, little Finger at

484
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Speaker 4: Door County. Okay, So it's cool.

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Speaker 3: It's only one hundred thousand people. Takes the most it'll

486
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Speaker 3: take you to drive anywhere is fifteen minutes. The town

487
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Speaker 3: is overbuilt road wise, you know for football games.

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Speaker 4: Watch you come out for the NFL draft too. We

489
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Speaker 4: got the NFL Draft in April twenty.

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Speaker 2: Another draw for you guys, So let me quickly go

491
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Speaker 2: back the draw.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's great and all the attention we've gotten is fantastic.

493
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Speaker 3: You know, it's not all positive this year because we

494
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Speaker 3: we weren't winning, but as we flip it, we know

495
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Speaker 3: we're going to use that to our benefit.

496
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497
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498
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499
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Speaker 2: Let me jump to the tournament and just the D

501
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Speaker 2: two D three, so you see. San Diego has been

502
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Speaker 2: an incredible story and I'm sure you know a lot

503
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Speaker 2: of people are loving them against Michigan, and I gave

504
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Speaker 2: them out last week as a team to watch in

505
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Speaker 2: the tournament. I'm on them against Michigan. I'm just curious.

506
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Speaker 2: You said the level is not that difference between low

507
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Speaker 2: division one and Division two, and I don't disagree, but

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious when they have to step up in

509
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Speaker 2: class to face of Michigan. Do you think a school

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Speaker 2: like UC San Diego has a shot?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

512
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: What's amazing about UC San Diego is, I don't know

514
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Speaker 3: if you know this. Their best player transferred last year

515
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Speaker 3: at the end of the year as a grand senior

516
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Speaker 3: to USC. Barely plays at USC like they've lost their

517
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Speaker 3: best player. I think the last three years, two years

518
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Speaker 3: ago to Boise State last year. And yet they do

519
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 3: a great job. You know, California Division twos have been

520
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: kind of undercovered, under the radar, and they've done an

521
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Speaker 3: amazing job. Now they've been they've gone through the transition

522
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Speaker 3: phase and everybody who's anybody's watched UC San Diego and like,

523
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Speaker 3: well that'll work, you know, sort of a model five

524
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 3: Princeton style. They run some of the Princeton stuff. They're

525
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: really well coached and really connected defensively. Do I think

526
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Speaker 3: that works against Michigan? Probably not, because uh, you know

527
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: you can do Michigan can kind of downshift and put

528
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Speaker 3: Danny Wolf at the five and that matches up with them.

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Speaker 3: But it's not a fun It would not be a

530
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Speaker 3: fun experience. I would not want to play Uccian Diego.

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Speaker 3: They're good that you see. Irvine belongs in the NCAA term.

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Speaker 4: You know. One of the things that I've learned this year.

533
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Speaker 3: And I sort of knew it, but now it's become

534
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Speaker 3: very clear is now you lose games because of scheduling

535
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Speaker 3: more than a time, especially at our level, more than

536
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Speaker 3: the opponent.

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Speaker 4: And I say that, you know had experience like we

538
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Speaker 4: we want.

539
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Speaker 3: I want to get back to California. I wanted my

540
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Speaker 3: mom to come up and see a game. I had

541
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Speaker 3: a couple of kids from California, so we were gonna play.

542
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Speaker 3: Irvine wanted to come on play us at our place.

543
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: I said, no, I need a road game, which would

544
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Speaker 3: again a mistake. I should have probably played them on

545
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Speaker 3: our place. I don't know if we could have beaten them,

546
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Speaker 3: but that game they lost to Ducane, and the travel

547
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 3: is just when you're at the low major mid major

548
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: level and you're playing. You know, we beat Siue who

549
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 3: won the Oile Valley, and we beat them by twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I saw that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well.

552
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Speaker 3: They had played that was their fourth game in seven days,

553
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: and so they weren't. We might have been better than

554
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: them when we were fully healthy, but we weren't that.

555
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 4: Much better than them. They were just dead.

556
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: They were just dead, right, And so when you're trying

557
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 3: to compare games and a computer model and be like,

558
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: well you lost to Ducane, like, yeah, Duking's in Pittsburgh

559
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 3: and you went on a road swing, and.

560
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Speaker 4: It's not like one of these made for TV.

561
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: Kansas for Kentucky games where you're flying on a private

562
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Speaker 3: jet and you play one game and then you go

563
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Speaker 3: back home and you play a bunch of other games.

564
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Speaker 3: So I think you c Irvine both deserved an at

565
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Speaker 3: large bid.

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Speaker 4: I truly do.

567
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Speaker 3: But you see San Diego's big time twelve seed is

568
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Speaker 3: not overseed at all.

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Speaker 4: Do I think they can beat Michigan? Could they?

570
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Speaker 2: I mean the line is down to two and a half.

571
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Speaker 2: I don't know how how close do you care about

572
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: the lines, but like money has come in. It was

573
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Speaker 2: three and a half now down to two and a half,

574
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Speaker 2: so a lot of respected money on U c CD.

575
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Speaker 2: I'm on the money line, and with the points, I

576
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Speaker 2: think there's.

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Speaker 3: I think the one the one in terms of travel

578
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Speaker 3: that's interesting to me is uh is Wisconsin.

579
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Speaker 2: Wisconsin going to altitude?

580
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

581
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Speaker 2: No, for sure.

582
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Speaker 3: Well it's not just that, but remember Wisconsin played four

583
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Speaker 3: and four days yep, and now they play Thursday and Saturday,

584
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 3: so that will be was six games in like ten

585
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Speaker 3: or eleven days.

586
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: And they could just BYU who's kind of used to

587
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: the altitude there in the era.

588
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Speaker 3: And by has been off, by who has been off

589
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Speaker 3: for a couple of days, and they.

590
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Speaker 2: Got to get by VCU. I don't know if they.

591
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 3: Will well, VCU just played three or four and four

592
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 3: days as well, so that that has a huge, huge

593
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Speaker 3: effect on the outcome of games.

594
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Speaker 2: Let me ask you another one real quick on location.

595
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Speaker 2: So Louisville is playing somehow, somehow in Lexington against Creighton,

596
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: and then they would essentially get a home game against

597
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: top seed at Auburn in the second round. Now, I

598
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: don't know where you are on Louisville, but I mean

599
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: their backcourt matches up pretty good with the young Auburn

600
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Speaker 2: kids in the back court. I don't know, Doug, that

601
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: that's a dangerous spot if Louisville gets by Creighton.

602
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I mean when Chucky's healthy and Chucky's a

603
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: stud man Chuckie Heppern who said Wisconsin last year.

604
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Speaker 4: Yeah, ye, he's awesome. I wouldn't make a.

605
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Speaker 3: Big deal about playing, you know, in Lexington when you're

606
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: from Louisville, omar, Creighton fans travel like crazy. I think

607
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: that I think that one's a little overblown, Okay, I

608
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: just do.

609
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Speaker 4: I mean, like, uh, don't get me wrong.

610
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Speaker 3: What Pat's done is incredible, right, that program was in

611
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: the ditch and they flipped it and they went out

612
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: in the portal, spent some money, and he has those

613
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: kids playing hard.

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00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 4: He runs really really good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you, Doug, how the ac stinks. Well, well,

616
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Speaker 2: that's harsh. Come on, it wasn't great. This year stinks considerable.

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00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: Hold on, if I told you you've been, you've been.

618
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Speaker 3: You're a huge college basketball fan. You grew up in

619
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Speaker 3: New York, right, Okay, So if I said, hey, you've

620
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 3: got a league with Syracuse, Duke, Carolina, Virginia, Louisville, who else?

621
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Speaker 2: I mean, have those teams lost their coaches like Beyhim's

622
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: gone to You know.

623
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Speaker 3: I understand. My point is, considering how that league has

624
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 3: been viewed. I didn't even get to NC State, Wake Forest,

625
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: et cetera. To be this far down where you can

626
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: win that many games. Like Louisville's an eighth seed, and

627
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: they deserve to be an eight seed.

628
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Speaker 4: They just do.

629
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Speaker 3: The league's not that good. They don't have the quality

630
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: of wins. So I just like, let's not go crazy

631
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: about a record against the league, which is it's it's

632
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 3: probably the fifth best league in the country. Now that

633
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 3: being said, I think Duke's the best team in the

634
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 3: country when they're healthy. But just because the league's not

635
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: great not mean that duke isn't fantastic, so let me.

636
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're all over this, but Milwaukee is hosting

637
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: some games, so it looks like some decent teams North

638
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Carolina's going to be there Milwaukee. I just looked it

639
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: up as two hours from Green Bay, Like, how does

640
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: it work for coaches?

641
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: Half?

642
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: Okay hour and a half? Would can you just straight

643
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: up go to that and watch? Or is that not allowed?

644
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 2: Or will they think they're scouting and trying to steal players.

645
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: I can go wherever, I can go wherever I want. No,

646
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: I can't.

647
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: You can't go watch somebody. You are going to go play?

648
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 3: So I went scouted.

649
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Speaker 4: We're scouting.

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Speaker 3: I was actually in California, went to the JU Junior

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Speaker 3: College Championship out here. I have people at ne I

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Speaker 3: A Championship, We're at the D two tournament, We're at

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Speaker 3: the D three tournament, and I mean the NAA tournament doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Do a lot for us.

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Speaker 3: The one I don't understand about Milwaukee is why is

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin not playing there?

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Speaker 4: What? What? There are three questions? They deserve to be

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Speaker 4: in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: They kind of got screwed. You're right, all right, we

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Speaker 2: can we can kind of wrap here, Doug with.

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Speaker 4: When you come to Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Man, if I get the time off

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Speaker 2: in the summer, maybe uh, Coward can gass up. Coward

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Speaker 2: can gas up the private jet and bring me down.

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Speaker 4: Coward's moving to Chicago, So three hours, three hours away.

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Speaker 3: So while you game next year, we're gonna play an

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Speaker 3: exhibition game for a Packer game. Come up, double up,

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Speaker 3: see the place, check it out.

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Speaker 2: I'll get you check it Can you leave me a scout?

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Speaker 2: Let me be a scout for you out here in

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Speaker 2: California and send some players your way. I will text

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Speaker 2: you a player. Want to send some money?

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Speaker 4: You want to send some money.

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Speaker 2: I'm not making that much money real quick, Doug, let

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Speaker 2: me final four picks. I know you said do because

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Speaker 2: you're is the best? Do you expect to chalk e

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Speaker 2: like four number ones advancing? Or what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with you here.

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Speaker 3: I I don't know how the brackets line out. I

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Speaker 3: don't don't. I don't, but here's what I will tell you.

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Speaker 3: I do commend the committee on this this one point

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Speaker 3: they got right.

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Speaker 4: What college football got wrong?

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Speaker 3: Okay, the SEC has and spends the most money. So

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Speaker 3: it's not a it's not an absolute. I'm not an absolutist. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's not always. You know, Kansas spent a bunch of money.

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Speaker 3: They seem to have somethings off with their team juju wise,

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Speaker 3: but generally, Okay, the SEC has and spends more money

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Speaker 3: than anybody. So yeah, they deserve to have fourteen teams

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Speaker 3: in because it's crazy how deep that league is. West

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Speaker 3: Virginia should have been in the tournament, right, because the

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Speaker 3: Big twelve spends a ton.

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Speaker 4: West Virginia spent a ton as well.

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Speaker 3: But the point is that I wouldn't surprise me at

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Speaker 3: all if the Elite eight was littered with SEC teams

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Speaker 3: and Big twelve teams and do I don't think. I

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Speaker 3: don't think the Big twelve is as good as it's been.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, Houston is still impossible to score on.

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Speaker 3: I still think that Kansas has a chance. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's a crazy break they're in. But those schools have

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Speaker 3: so much more money. Like look, you know is the Godfather.

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Speaker 3: He's do an amazing job, but he's also helped out

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Speaker 3: by the fact that he's got you know, I'll be

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Speaker 3: a five, four or.

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Speaker 4: Five million dollar payroll. Yeah, so just.

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Speaker 3: Just track the teams that have the most money and

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Speaker 3: have Hall of Fame coaches and.

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Speaker 4: They'll be there.

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Speaker 3: But my you know, without making any grandyous predictions, my

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Speaker 3: guess is Duke Win's it. I think they're terrific. I

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Speaker 3: think John is wildly underrated as a coach. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's handled the transition really well. But as a coach,

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Speaker 3: they are expertly coached. And yeah, and then, uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: we played against Drake and Ben McCullum, who people say

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Speaker 3: is going to get a bigger job and maybe get

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Speaker 3: the Indiana job, and it's interesting, you know, there's no

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Speaker 3: real tricks to what they do. They're just so fricking good, defensively,

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Speaker 3: so connected. And they have two six year seniors, two

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Speaker 3: fifth years, and then Bennett starts. He's as good as

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Speaker 3: anybody we've seen on taping, definitely better than anybody saw

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Speaker 3: it in person. So you know, Drake's got a chance

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Speaker 3: to make a little run here as well. But I

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Speaker 3: do think that those SEC schools are significantly better than

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Speaker 3: most of the Big East schools, most of the Big

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Speaker 3: ten schools, especially in terms of funding.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Doug Gottlieb head coach the Green Bay Phoenix.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time, Doug, Fox Sports radio host

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Speaker 2: can continued success and I'm excited to see your portal success, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Sha