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Speaker 1: and he's got the power again. And you know, from

431
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Speaker 1: a year ago to saying well, you know, my future

432
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: and green Bays now out of my hands because of

433
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: this draft pick. To now my futures in my own hands,

434
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: whether it's here or somewhere else. And I just think

435
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: he's in a situation now where he feels disrespected by

436
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: the pick by not being told they were going to

437
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: take him. But a year ago, he really had nothing

438
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: he could do about it. Now, you know, he's got

439
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: the power of you how or is the club really

440
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: cut off guard by this? Not as love as like

441
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: when the report came out, you know, a week or

442
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: so ago. But I think they've they've gotten the sense

443
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: that this has been brewing, you know, for quite some time.

444
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 1: You know. The first intimate was when Rogers basically said

445
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: right after the season that you know, there's a lot

446
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: of players with uncertain futures, me being one of them.

447
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that put him on notice

448
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: a little bit. Initially, from what it sounds like, they

449
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: were hesitant to give him any more guaranteed money or

450
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: even structure the contract in the way that it would

451
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: ensure he would be the quarterback beyond the season. They

452
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: were simply going to do a restructure where they created

453
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: some calf base by turning some money in the signing

454
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 1: BoatUS money but ultimately not necessarily ensuring that he would

455
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: be here long term, and he got upset by that.

456
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: And then, according to our Adam Schefter's reporting that by

457
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: the time they got around to offering him a bona

458
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: fide contract extension, one that would both give him money

459
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: and years, he was to the point where he was

460
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: so upset that he didn't even want that. So we're

461
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 1: at the point now, guys, where you know, quite frankly,

462
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what he wants if there is a

463
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Speaker 1: way to get him back to Green Bay. We had

464
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Speaker 1: a caller when we were talking about this last week

465
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Speaker 1: who spent time living in Green Bay, and he said

466
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: that the community at large doesn't love Aaron Rodgers as

467
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: unconditionally as you know, people outside of Green Bay might think,

468
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: can you kind of paint the picture as you see

469
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Speaker 1: it in terms of how Rogers is viewed there, because

470
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Speaker 1: it's not like he's a total saint from what we've

471
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Speaker 1: been told. Is that accurate, well partially, And I think

472
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: it's in some ways it's unfair to Aaron because he

473
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: followed this incredible legend and I'm not just talking about

474
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: football player, but Brett Fire in terms of the way

475
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: Brett was in the community. Now, things were different in

476
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: the late nineties and two thousands. There wasn't all the

477
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: social media. There wasn't everybody with a camera, phone, an iPhone, whatever,

478
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: and Brett was a part of the fabric of the community.

479
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: There's a street downtown green Bay, Washington Street has a

480
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: ton of bars, a ton of bars and taverns and nightclubs.

481
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: I should say a todd for Green Bay. It's a

482
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,360
Speaker 1: toime and that's where that where Fire and his buddies,

483
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: Mark Chimura and Frank Winners would hang out. And they

484
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: were just you know, it wasn't uncommon to see Brett

485
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: and the guys around town, and people really fell in

486
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: love with that. If you also think about Brett, you know,

487
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: people lived with him kind of threw a bunch of

488
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: family tragedies, as death of his father. Of course, Brett's

489
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: own admission of addiction to painkillers that he was very

490
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: public about, even his wife's battle with bress can answer.

491
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: Everything was sort of out in the public. Aaron's is

492
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: not that way much more private. You know, it's a

493
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: different time. Guys don't go out in public as much

494
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: here anymore. So, I just think it's it's a it's

495
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: a little bit unfair to Aaron in the circumstances. But

496
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: I also think Aaron hasn't put himself necessarily out there

497
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: as much as Brett did to kind of get that

498
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: be loving this now. They love him because he's a

499
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: good football player, but they love him because he's one

500
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: of them. No, And one other point to that is

501
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: if you think about Brett, Brett wanted to come back

502
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: to Green Bay. I mean, I don't ultimately ended up

503
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, but in that summer two thousand and eight,

504
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: he wanted to come back and the Packers didn't want him.

505
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: That turned a huge public support more in fives favor.

506
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: Now Aaron Rodgers says he doesn't want to come back.

507
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: People of Wisconsin are incredibly provincial people in Green Bay,

508
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: if you don't want to be here, they take that

509
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: as a personal insult. And I think that's a little

510
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: bit about what your caller might be be Yeah, and

511
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: Buffalo fans, I think are the same way about their

512
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: own team. They're they're pretty much if if you don't

513
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: want to be here, don't want you kind of people.

514
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: And I we can totally I think in Buffalo relate

515
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: to that. What about the front office, the personalities there,

516
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: the GM, Mark Murphy the president, How is this all

517
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: playing with him? And what's their next step? Yeah, as

518
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, Steve, this is such a different organization in

519
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: terms of structure and you know, obviously very similar to

520
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo in terms of the community evolvement at the size

521
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: of the town, but not from an ownership structure. There

522
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: is no owner. This is a publicly health team. There's

523
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: like three million shares of stock owned by a million

524
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: and a half people or whatever the number is. And

525
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: Mark Murphy is the team president. He essentially acts as

526
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: the owner, but it's not his money, it's not his team.

527
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: So therefore sometimes maybe he's not going to be as

528
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, demanding as maybe like a Jerry Jones or

529
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft is. And so there's not going to be

530
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna step in and say, look, this

531
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: is the way we're doing it, and this is my

532
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: team and this is the way it is. That's just

533
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: not how it works here. It's never worked here that way.

534
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: When Ron Wolf, with a Hall of Fame general manager,

535
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: was here, he made all the football decisions. When Ted

536
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: Thompson was a general manager. He made all the football decisions.

537
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: And it's no different really with Brian Goodacoots, the fourth

538
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: year general manager. He's the one who picked Jordan love Now. Certainly,

539
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: Mark Murphy, if he thought this was ultimately the wrong thing,

540
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: he could have stepped in and said I don't I

541
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: think you're making a big mistake. Didn't do that, And

542
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: this is created and Aaron Rodgers versus Brian Goodacootz situation.

543
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: There's been reports that Rogers will only come back if

544
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: Goudacoots is out as general manager. No one, what I

545
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: know about the way the Packers do business, I don't

546
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: see anyway that they fire the general manager to appease

547
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And so that's why we're again sort of

548
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: had a standstill. And then Rob we've seen differing opinions

549
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: out there. You know, Brett says he thinks, knowing Aaron

550
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: like he does, he's gonna dig his heels in and

551
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: not blink. And we've seen other people that think it

552
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: can be worked out. Right. How resolute do you get

553
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: the sense that Aaron is? He certainly doesn't need the money,

554
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: So I guess you could argue that sitting out if

555
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: he's not moved is a possible, uh stance that he

556
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: could take. But what yeah, how do yeah until the

557
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: organization says that's fine, you want to sit out. Oh,

558
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: by the way, you owe us thirty million dollars if

559
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: you're signing bonus back, you know that. Then maybe it's

560
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different thought. But um, you know, look,

561
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard to say um because you know,

562
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Aaron really really haven't heard from him other than him

563
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: being quote disappointed that the story came out when he

564
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: spoke to I think it was Mike Tarico at to

565
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: Kentucky Derby. I'm not sure i'd buy that. You know,

566
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: he was disappointed that it came out. But uh, here's

567
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: the thing. The one thing that could maybe sway Rogers

568
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: is this, And it's maybe why guys like his ex

569
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: teammates John Quin and James Jones believe there's a way back.

570
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I wonder if Rogers has maybe underestimated what the public

571
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: response would be and that he thought more people might

572
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: be on his side. And he is a guy that

573
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, legacy is important to him, and maybe he

574
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: overplayed what he thought, you know, might be the public

575
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: support on his side. That maybe it's not so much

576
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: on it, and maybe that's his way back in. You know,

577
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: maybe he sees that as well. You know, maybe I

578
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: made a mistake here, But what Brett said about him

579
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 1: is true for a personality standpoint. Um, Aaron doesn't do

580
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: anything without thinking it through. He is a super super

581
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: smart guy and he is not a you know, fly

582
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: by the seat of his pants decision maker. So if

583
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: Aaron's upset about this, and he is, I'm not so

584
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: sure that he can walk it back. When is the

585
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: first time on the counter that we're gonna see tangible

586
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: evidence that it's either getting better or not going to

587
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: be a problem, or this is gonna get ugly? Yeah,

588
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: great question. I think there's a couple of dates. One

589
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: May twenty fourth, which is the first day of OTAs now,

590
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: but we all know OTAs are voluntary. Rod does have

591
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: a five hundred thousand dollars workout bonus that he's probably

592
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: already lost out on because he hasn't been in any

593
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: of the virtual meetings which have been going on for

594
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: about three weeks now. I don't expect him to show

595
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: up made twenty fourth. Mandatory mini camp is June eighth, now.

596
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: If he doesn't show up there, he's subject to about

597
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars and fines. June one is also

598
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: an important date because that's if they were to trade him,

599
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: they would do it after that for salary cap purposes,

600
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: you know, and that of course there's nothing budgets between

601
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: on all those dates. Now we're looking at you late

602
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: July or early August, whenever the training camp report date

603
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: is so, and Rob, just bring us up to speed

604
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: if you could on where Green based cap situation is.

605
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we know post June first, which is

606
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: only a few weeks away. At this point, you would

607
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: obviously wait until then to kind of relieve yourself of

608
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: the a normal thirty eight million dollars cap hit and

609
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: cut it down to twenty one I believe is in

610
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: the number I saw. But what is their cap situation here?

611
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: And we also have the prospect of not really knowing

612
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: what the number is going to be for the league yet,

613
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: So how are they navigating all of that? You know,

614
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: because they have to prepare for a worst case scenario

615
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: in case it comes to pass. How does that look

616
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: on their books? Yeah, it's an important thing to consider,

617
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Chris and this whole thing because first, of all, going

618
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: back to this year, they had to do a ton

619
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: of restructuring just to get under the cap. They restructured

620
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: six contracts of veteran guys. None of them was Rogers.

621
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Speaker 1: That they didn't touch his contract, which in part could

622
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: be telling as well. But they're in a situation now

623
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: where there are a couple of million. They have a

624
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: couple million bucks of cap space, not enough to do

625
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: anything significant. If they made the move with Rogers after

626
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: June one, they would actually pick up sixteen million in

627
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: salary cap space and they would create a big number.

628
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's so concerning for this year,

629
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: but next year is a huge problem. They're top eight

630
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: players under contract for next season combined for a salary

631
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: cap total of one hundred and sixty one million dollars.

632
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: Let's say the cap goes up to two hundred million.

633
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: It's at one eighty two now, that's still only less

634
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: than forty million for the other forty five players on

635
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: their roster, and of course that includes that top eight

636
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: includes Aaron Rodgers monster cap number of I think thirty

637
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: nine million dollars. And here's another thing to think about.

638
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: Those top eight guys that combined for one hundred and

639
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: sixty million in cap space for twenty twenty two, does

640
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: not include receiver DeVante Adams who's in the last year

641
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: of his contract, and does not include JayR Alexander. They're

642
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: all pro cornerback who will end up playing for the

643
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: fifth year option of thirteen million for deck season that

644
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: doesn't technically count right now. So it's one reason that

645
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people, myself included, thought that the Packers

646
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: were making one more run at it with this group

647
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one and then might blow the thing up,

648
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: which would include turn the thing over to Jordan Love

649
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and they're trying to help him

650
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: in every way they can. On the other side of

651
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: the ball, they're not giving them any more weapons, but

652
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: they're drafting defensive players all the time in Green Bay.

653
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: What's it looked like this year with their draft? Yeah,

654
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe bring back twenty of the twenty two

655
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: starters from last year's team that reached the NFC Championship

656
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: Game went thirteen and three, and oh, by the way,

657
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: was number one in the NFL in total offense without

658
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, so called weapons. Now, they did draft the

659
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Maury Rodgers the slot receiver gadget guy out of Clemson,

660
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: who I think is something that they've been missing ever

661
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: since Randall Cobb was let go a few years ago,

662
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: so that I think that will be an interesting dynamic.

663
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: But if Rogers were willing to look at this draft

664
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: and see that it actually could help him right away,

665
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: I think he would like what he's seen. I don't

666
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: know that he's willing to consider that at this point.

667
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: But if you think about the NFC Championship game lost

668
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: to the Buccaneers, they didn't lose that game because they

669
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: didn't have enough weapons. They lost that game because their

670
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: cornerback play was incredibly shaky. Other than Alexander Kevin King

671
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: got burned. Their slot guy got burned. They drafted Eric

672
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: Stokes with their first round pick, speedy corner back. That's

673
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: a help. They've got issues on the offensive line in

674
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: that game. They drafted three offensive linemen, including a second

675
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: round center who's probably going to replace the only offensive

676
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: starter that they lost in free agency, Corey Linsley, and

677
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: they addressed, you know, over the last couple of years,

678
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: offensive line in general. So it's actually a pretty darn

679
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: good setup to make another run and it be a

680
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: sort of last dance type of situation, which is probably

681
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: why you know, Gutencoust came out and said and really

682
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: didn't couch this, that the team is not trading Aaron Rodgers.

683
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: So with him not couching that at all, we do

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00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: we take that statement as fact just temporarily or do

685
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: we are we pretty convinced that's a statement that's going

686
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: to hold up for Gutencoust all the way through to

687
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: training camp. Yeah. And you know, I'm not sure how

688
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: the Bills or other organizations operate, but I can tell

689
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: you this about the Packers is they don't do anything

690
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: until they have to, like, uh, you know, until it's

691
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 1: right up against the deadline or whatever the self imposed

692
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: deadline might be. And they're gonna ride this thing out.

693
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna hope Rodgers changes his vine and that they

694
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: can convince him to come back and be their guy. Um.

695
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: So again, I think that's why we're in for a

696
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: long haul. The question I have is if Rodgers is

697
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: indeed dead set I'm never playing again, does good Accoonts

698
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: trade him or just say then I guess you're sitting out.

699
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: Then that's the thing that nobody knows, at least I

700
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: don't know what this what are the chances if if

701
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: the Packers are you know, financially set up to kind

702
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: of blow it up after this year, taking this one

703
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: last run to the Packers, go to Aaron Rodgers and say, okay,

704
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: here's the deal. You come in play this year. We

705
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: will absolutely trade you. When it's all over, we're gonna

706
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: move on from We're gonna blow it all up and

707
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: start with Jordan Love, rebuild around him, and we'll we'll

708
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: send you to the team of your choice. Yeah, and

709
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: that's that's a great point, Steve. I don't know if

710
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: they would do that or if he would accept it,

711
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: but to me, it could be a valid compromise to

712
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: this situation and say let's make one more run at

713
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: it and then we'll trade you, you know, to you know,

714
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: work out a deal to your team a choice. Now,

715
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: I will say, speaking of deals to the team of choice,

716
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: when they were going to trade five in the summer

717
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: of two thousand and eight, they had trades lined up

718
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: with two teams, with Tampa and the Jets, and they

719
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: went to five and said where do you want to go?

720
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: And he said Tampa, and they sent them to the Jets.

721
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, Steve. It's a nice scenario that you

722
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: laid out there, but team of your choice, I don't

723
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: know if that's going to be on the list anywhere.

724
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: That's a that's an engraduation for Aris. But he could

725
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: could say, well, we'll make a short list of six

726
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: ten three take their number. Shortlist totally would be I'm

727
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: most likely a team in the AFC. So now you

728
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: look at AFC teams that you know, look AFC teams

729
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: that have quarterbacks. You know, I've been using Cincinnati as

730
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: an example, just not to pick on them or whatever,

731
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 1: but like Cincinnati's not going to trade Brion Rodgers because

732
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: they have Joe Burrow on their belief in Joe Burrow

733
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: is you know. But so there's enough number of teams

734
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: in that sereal obviously Buffalo, I mean he got, you know,

735
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: an established quart now, But there are a couple of

736
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: teams like Yeah, there are a couple of teams like Houston,

737
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: like Denver, a couple of teams like that that that

738
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: r can maybe even maybe even Miami, yeah or yes,

739
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: or even Indianapolis if if if Carson Wentz flames out right,

740
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: But like you're not you know, if you're the Los

741
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. You know, like me, Yeah, you're not a

742
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contending team right now, but you're building around

743
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: you know, justin Herbert. So there's just teams like that

744
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: that you're not going to be involved. You know who

745
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,479
Speaker 1: crosses my mind when I say that is Vegas. John

746
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: Gruden is always shopping for a new quarterback and that

747
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: would be a very tame He might be the guy

748
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: who drives the price up for an Aaron Rodgers late

749
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: in his career. And John Gruden, by the way, it

750
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: was the coach in Tampa when he thought he was

751
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: getting Brett Fire for two thousand and eight. Maybe in

752
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: two twenty one or two. Yeah, I think that is

753
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: a good place to leave this conversation. We've certainly peppered

754
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: your Rob with enough questions about it, and I'm sure

755
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: we're not the first people to do it. So thanks,

756
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: thanks very much for the time and the insight. We

757
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: appreciate you kind of painting the picture for us here

758
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: and for your sake. I hope it ends sooner rather

759
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: than later. Take care of and thanks for the time.

760
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, appreciate it all right. Rob Demovsky, ESPN NFL

761
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: Nation Reporter for the Green Bay Packers been doing it

762
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: up there a long time, knows this stuff so good

763
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: to get a feel for what it is, what it

764
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: could be, and eventually what it was, and of course

765
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: what it's not, you know, I mean, that's all right, Yeah,

766
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: that's it is interestingly enough in a business the size

767
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: of the NFL and how many billions of dollars we

768
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: talk about, and everybody throws money around when they talk

769
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: about the NFL, like, oh my gosh, it's a cash

770
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff the money's involved, and the

771
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: corporate decisions that they make and the policies and the

772
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: union and they own. It's still about relationships when you

773
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: get when push comes to shove and the product that

774
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: is on the field and those guys are out there

775
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: actually in helmets running around. It is about relationships. And

776
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: we see it every offseason, but in this one it's

777
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's the leading headline, yeah for a minute

778
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: at least here in the off season about how those

779
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: relationships go south. And it's it's pretty interesting every time

780
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: it happens. But it's a reminder that, you know, no

781
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: matter what the corporations say, people still run the world. Yeah,

782
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: And while there is a history of teams moving on

783
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: from head coaches in favor of a star player. We

784
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: have not seen it at the GM level. We just

785
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe there's an exception or two out there

786
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: that I'm not thinking about right now, but we've seen

787
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: coaches get jettisoned in favor of a star player. I mean,

788
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: it goes all the way back to nineteen eighty one.

789
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean Magic Johnson got Paul Westead bounced out of

790
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: LA as the head coach of the Lakers, and there

791
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: have been several examples since then where the head coach

792
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: has been, you know, pushed out the door in favor

793
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: of the star player who's producing on the court, at

794
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: the field, whatever. GM is a different that's a different

795
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: animal there, and I don't think that's a press in

796
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: it than anybody really wants to set. And as we've seen,

797
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: you know, late lately, in our conversations off here and

798
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: people talking around it, you can you can say sports

799
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: in general, but the NHL is vastly different than the NFL,

800
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: and the NBA is vastly different than the NFL. They're

801
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: very different sports. But like you say, at the top

802
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: and at the heart, I don't know at the top

803
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: or at the heart of or at the root of

804
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: all of it is relationships. And that's what drives these guys.

805
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: You gotta go. You live with these guys, You live

806
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: with each other for months and months at a time.

807
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: And in football, and I don't know what it's like

808
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: in in the NBA, it's a very small roster. It's

809
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: a very close knit group, very tight. You interact with

810
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: those guys constantly. It's a very small group and flors

811
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: games every day, every other day, and little bit differently

812
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: in football. This is the way I see. This is

813
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: only my opinion, and football is a little different because

814
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: you're asking guys to hurt physical, physical, exertion, pain, injury.

815
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen. You can't get around it.

816
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: You got to be ready for it. And those relationships

817
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: are important. If you want, if you want me to

818
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: suffer for you, you better be suffering with me, right,

819
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: You better ready to support me. So it's it's those

820
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: kind of dynamics that drive the league and disgruntled players

821
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: and happy players. It's subtle differences make all the difference,

822
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: and they're profound. I just wonder how long he sticks

823
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: to his guns because Rob brought up a very important

824
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: point that I hadn't really given a whole lot of

825
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: credence to and that is the legacy thing. And he

826
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: maintains that legacy is important to Aaron Rodgers. And he

827
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: may have miscalculated what he felt his fan backing in

828
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: Green Bay was because based on the caller last week,

829
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: based on what Rob said today, how far of his

830
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: beloved Rogers I think is appreciated. Yeah, And there's a

831
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: big difference between beloved and appreciate it. Well, there's there's

832
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: great there's great players, and then there's legends. You know that,

833
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's a slight difference. They're both good. We

834
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: appreciate having Aaron Rodgers here in Green Bay, but we

835
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: love but Brett. But he'll, yeah, he'll never match up

836
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: to the guy and the person and the and the

837
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: persona that that Brett was while he was here. He

838
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: was he was truly us you know that kind of thing.

839
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: But that also, um, I mean you can slice that

840
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 1: any way you want. And you know, Aaron Rodgers, I

841
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 1: don't know that you make decisions based on what might

842
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: be in the future. Um. Yeah, And particularly when it's

843
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: about opinions, I think I see Aaron Rodgers is smart

844
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: enough to know he goes all I want to be.

845
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: I don't loved or whatever, but I want him to

846
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 1: under stand where I'm coming from. And if they do,

847
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: they'll be okay with me. Yeah. And I think the

848
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: main issue here is he feels he should have won

849
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: more championships by his age thirty eighth season and he doesn't.

850
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: And he feels he has laid it on the line

851
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: every single week, every single year for this franchise, you know,

852
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: for the better part of the last sixteen years. And

853
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he believes it's been returned to him

854
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: in kind to help him win enough. And that's why

855
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: he's ticked. I think. I think that's the root of it.

856
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: I think he's got a beef. Well, yeah, he's got

857
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: a beef. But the draft last year, it was the

858
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: icing on the cake. But or the year before this banish,

859
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: I get it there. There are certain things he would

860
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: have done differently, but a lot of time and certainly

861
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: he can make this case about the Jordan Love draft pick.

862
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one that stands out. It's exactly

863
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: it happened to him, exactly the way it happened. In

864
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: his favor sixteen years ago when he got drafted with

865
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: Brett Fars still on the roster and had to sit

866
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: behind Brett far for three years. So he sat behind

867
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: him for three years, and now it's happened to him

868
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: in the reverse. That's that's unusual. And he can certainly

869
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: point to and say, listen, at you want me to

870
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: hurt your Come on, you know, where's our relationship. We

871
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: have a real chance here to win something if we

872
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: just make a couple like two players away. We're two

873
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: plays away. You know, we just went to the NFC

874
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: title game, and you're drafting this kid who's not going

875
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: to step on the field for you for three years

876
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: when we're this close. I mean, I think he's that's

877
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: what he's gotten his goat. He's gotten what's gotten his goat,

878
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: and he's just like, well, if you're not gonna do it,

879
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: let me go somewhere else where I can help a

880
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: team win a title, particularly when in recent history with

881
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning going from ye Indianapolis to Denver and Tom

882
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: Brady going from New England to Tampa Bay, team guys

883
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: have done it. And I think that is only emboldened

884
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: players who feel they have the kind of influence on

885
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: teams that he does, and he's probably seen it. And again,

886
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: NBA different from NFL and stuff like that. But I

887
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: think some of these professional athletes in the football ranks

888
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: see the way that NBA players can exert their influence

889
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 1: on front offices in the league to either come get

890
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: them via a trade or come get them in free

891
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: agency to build a super team. Now that's easier in

892
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: the NBA than it is in the NFL because the

893
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: rosters are smaller. You only have five guys on the floor.

894
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: You have two superstar players, you can win a championship

895
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: with the right balance of cast around them. NFL it's

896
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: a little harder to build that, but you see how

897
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: they have. I mean, the players in the NBA have

898
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: changed the face of the league and how teams are constructed.

899
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: And I think NFL players are smart enough to know

900
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: they can't be that demonstrative. But more and more we're

901
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: seeing prominent players in the NFL see how far they

902
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: can push the envelope in changing things with their current

903
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: rosters or moving to another team. But it's also different

904
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: in football because there's no one player other than the

905
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: guy you're talking about. There is no other player that's

906
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: going to affect it as much as they're affecting it already.

907
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: So they can say, give me a little help here,

908
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 1: a little help there, and then then it wasn't provided.

909
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: But then if even if it wasn't provided, here's the

910
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: thing when they do provide and say, okay, here's the guy.

911
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: All right, there's the guy, and all of a sudden bust, Well,

912
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: you see how hard it is. It's it's not an

913
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: exact science. It's not like it seems to be in

914
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: other sports where they can tab a guy and say

915
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 1: that's the guy. If you get that guy in, everything's

916
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: going to change in the dynamics on the floor because

917
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: there's only five guys on the floor at once, while

918
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: there's still eleven guys in football, and the percentages of

919
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: one guy other than a quarterback being able to tilt

920
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: the balance. We saw it last year as Steph Digg

921
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: shows up in Buffalo and all of a sudden they

922
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: go from on offense to juggernaut. That's rare. That's rare.

923
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: But you see because the team actually did it. Yeah, right,

924
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: and the and the you know, Aaron Rodgers sitting over there,

925
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: going what are we doing you're not even trying. You're

926
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: not even trying to help make a move. Yeah, you know.

927
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: So there's that's about as far as you can go

928
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: with that argument. Yeah, it's gonna have legs. It's gonna

929
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: keep on traveling. I don't think we're getting at the

930
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: end anytime soon. I really don't. I mean, yeah, I

931
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: think it's going into June, mid June at least. Of

932
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: course I think this. But I just said at the

933
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: end of that interview, I think the packers, if they

934
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: want out of it, said just say, okay, and here's

935
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: the deal. Just give us one more year and you

936
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: come up with a list of at least six teams

937
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 1: that you'd be willing to go to, all in the AFC. Yeah,

938
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: and then we'll pull the trigger. And then we'll pull

939
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: the trigger. Yeah, it might come to that. It'll be

940
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: very interesting to see break time for us. When we

941
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: come back. We'll get your thoughts on the NFL offseason

942
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: and what you think it's gonna look like for the

943
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: players and the off season program all virtual like it

944
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: was last year, a blend of in person and virtual

945
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: or back to the way they've always done it. Let

946
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: us know on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live here,

947
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: presented by a lot of health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

948
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Welcome back to one Bills five. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

949
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: with you. Second half of the show under way as

950
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: we're checking in with you to see where you see

951
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: the offseason program debate ending up between the players union

952
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: and the league. Are we expecting virtual until training camp?

953
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: Blend of in person and virtual between now and training camp,

954
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: We're back to the way it always was. Let us

955
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: know at eighth three fifty one, fifty two, five fifty

956
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: gonna go to the tweet sheet now, which is brought

957
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: to you as always by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

958
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and Jack says

959
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: blend it, I think OTA meetings and workouts will be virtual,

960
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: but I do believe they'll get in mandatory mini camps

961
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: around the league for four five days of in person

962
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: work even though limited work staff. So we want to

963
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: have their teams in the house for installs and to

964
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: put eyes on the roster. Yeah, it's it's really the

965
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: coaches that I want the guys here and the bonding, connecting,

966
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: getting in sync on the field. That kind of stuff.

967
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: That's really the the crux of this. Every time something

968
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: is is you're able to do something and you're then

969
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: or it's legal to do something and you're not able to,

970
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: you feel like you're losing ground on your competition. So

971
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: coaches are really hyper sensitive to the fact that other

972
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: teams have ninety eight percent attendance at their offseason workouts

973
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: and they've got a team that has opted out and

974
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: not shown up. They it is a really uncomfortable play,

975
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: uncomfortable place for a coaching staff to feel themselves, and

976
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: that's when they start giving push back to the owners about,

977
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, making more mandatory things happen. And for me

978
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: and I've we said it earlier in the show, owners

979
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: do not care. It's cheaper for them to keep those

980
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,479
Speaker 1: guys out of the room. Yeah, there's a two hundred

981
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: thirty five dollars per day per diem for every day

982
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: a guy is on site doing what he's supposed to

983
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: be doing here at the facility, right and I do

984
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 1: know the bills are like top five in the league

985
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: in total money committed in cut player contracts to workout bonuses,

986
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: So there's a built in incentive right there for a

987
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: lot of the players on this roster to be here.

988
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: And it's easy to see to guess which teams are

989
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: really high in that Green Bay is high, and that

990
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo is high, and that you know, they it's not

991
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: the place where guys. A lot of guys like to

992
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: live in the offseason for the weather reasons and all

993
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: of the other stuff that they do with them. With

994
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: the money and free time they have, they can live

995
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: anywhere they want and something. Most of these guys, you know,

996
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that grew up in California.

997
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: If they're playing for the Chargers and the you know

998
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: and the any other teams out west, they you know,

999
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: they they'll stay out there. They can visit home easily

1000
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: from where they're playing starting practicing at the facility in Buffalo.

1001
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: If you're from Texas, Florida, you know, California, whatever you don't,

1002
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You know, you got to fly

1003
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: out every week and nobody wants to do that. Um,

1004
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: It's it's obvious or whether you like Buffalo or not.

1005
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: Smaller market teams have fewer guys that actually live in

1006
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: proximity to the team, and they do, you know, they

1007
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: so they go home and live My wife and I

1008
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: did it. I maybe for four off seasons, for a

1009
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: few months a year, we would go back and live

1010
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: near well in my hometown. We didn't. We didn't do

1011
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 1: it for a lot of years, and then we did

1012
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: when our just before our children got into school and

1013
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: just after and then we stopped. Um, we did it

1014
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: because we felt it was important for our family. Yeah,

1015
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: and you know, to do that, and we got a

1016
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: lot of benefit from it. But ultimately, if the club

1017
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: would have even sneezed at it, we would like, I'll stay,

1018
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: We'll stay here in Buffalo. Yeah, it's just the way

1019
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: it's I was wired a little differently, Yeah, I was

1020
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: wired a little differently. Dinah says guessing that offseason will

1021
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: be a blend of virtual and in person, with virtual dominating,

1022
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: but I think in person will have a significant impact.

1023
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: So Dinas of the opinion that you know, the in

1024
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: person stuff does count and will make for better play.

1025
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, you can make whatever argument you want about

1026
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: last year and how it went. I think you could

1027
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 1: argue it almost as easily on both sides because people

1028
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: will point to the fact that point scoring was at

1029
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: its highest rate. Ever, So what do you need an

1030
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: offseason four, and people to coach defense will be like, well,

1031
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: hold on a minute. The reason the offense was so

1032
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: good is because our defensive units weren't ready and tackled

1033
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: anybody in eight nine months and it took him a

1034
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: month to get to remember how to do that effectively

1035
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: at top speed. So yeah, in person does matter. So

1036
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: you can make you can fit the argument to either

1037
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: side of the football. The only argument that can be

1038
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: made one way or the other that is good or

1039
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: bad is what were the injuries? Like were their teams?

1040
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: And certainly you can look at San Francisco and say, hey,

1041
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: they were nicked up beyond belief and there was some

1042
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: season d injury, right, So I think that's really the

1043
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: only thing that for me as a player or former player,

1044
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: would move the needle. If if which showed that all

1045
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, everywhere across the league there was a

1046
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: market increase in injuries of any type that could be

1047
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 1: attributed to lack of prep or lack of offseason stuff,

1048
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: then you got to say, Okay, well maybe you know,

1049
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: but I don't think they can do that. I don't

1050
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: think they can do that. I think the injuries were

1051
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: at least stagnant, So we'll see, but those are the

1052
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: numbers that could move it, right the football Listen, they

1053
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 1: had a wildly successful season last year by any measure

1054
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: except for fan attendance, a wildly successful yeah, and so

1055
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: why would they change it? And unless there was a

1056
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: you know, a reason for it, a human reason. If

1057
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: you're the players arguing this, you can say, look at

1058
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: how successful our season was. We didn't even have a preseason.

1059
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: You know you're going to have a preseason, so there

1060
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: will be on field reps, game like reps. So what

1061
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: do you need us therefore? Now, I think that would

1062
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: be the argument the players would be submitting, saying, you're

1063
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna be three preseason games more prepared than you were

1064
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, And I ultimately the league will just

1065
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: say this, guys, we're paying you two hundred million dollars

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00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: a year, show up for work now. And if they've

1067
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: still refused, then you say, all right, well then you

1068
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: got to give us something. How about an eighteenth game? Right?

1069
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's true. I mean how often, tell me, Steve,

1070
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: how often have the NFL owners in this Have the

1071
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: owners in this league just given something to the players

1072
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: without something coming back in return? Never? Yeah? And I

1073
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: think that the truth of the matter is that it

1074
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: is about negotiations and all that. But I, you know

1075
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: this this offseason here's a I think it's it's something

1076
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: that clubs could use to their advantage, particularly clubs like Buffalo,

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00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 1: like Green Bay, like Cincinnati, like some of the other

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00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: less than South Beach kind of places, you know, the

1079
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: New Orleans and of the world and the Miami South

1080
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: Beach of the world in Tampa Bays and all whatever,

1081
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: all those places that are supposedly just because of the

1082
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,959
Speaker 1: cities are attractive, like New York or whatever. Is this

1083
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: is that particularly at this place that we've seen it

1084
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: over the course of Sean mcdermot's tenure here. They make

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00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: it an attractive place on the football side and on

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00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: the culture side, and on the way you're treated side,

1087
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: and what they provide for you in season side, and

1088
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 1: the recovery, in the staffing, in the in the aid

1089
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: they give you on an offseason, the programs they provide,

1090
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: the every the facility. They make it so attractive. Guys

1091
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: are like particularly guys like man, you mean I can

1092
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: have I can have a masseuse and I don't have

1093
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: to pay her. The club will do it. You mean,

1094
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: you've got they've got a cryo chamber, and I don't

1095
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: have to I don't have to go out and spend

1096
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: my own money on an hyperbaric chamber. I've got breakfas lunch.

1097
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna feed me every day? You got you got

1098
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: like a coaching staff waiting for me to show up

1099
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: every day, and not just feeding you, like giving you

1100
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: exactly what you're supposed to be putting in your body.

1101
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 1: See the Bills have done that and gone gone that

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00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: way in such ways. And plus the way Sean McDermott

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00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: handles his players and how much the players love him

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00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: and how much they feel he loves them back, that

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00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of that relationship with the coaching staff and the

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00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: kind of culture they've got. Now, having said that, the

1107
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: real crux of this issues this, there will be teams

1108
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: that will say, listen for free agents. It's our policy,

1109
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: but we don't even call you until May. You're free

1110
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: all the way until May. And then once May starts,

1111
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: then we start a couple of weeks here, a couple

1112
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: weeks said, then you come back in it. Then you

1113
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: go to a place like Cincinnati says no, you have

1114
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: to show up for work every day January, February, March, April, May, June, July.

1115
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: You're you're You're here every day because we're paying you,

1116
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: and that's the way it's going to be. And we

1117
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: don't think that's unreasonable. And Buffalo is like, bro, you

1118
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: get five months off. That all goes into the mix

1119
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: of what you're gonna do on the football field and

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00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: which players want to come play for your club. And

1121
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be part of the free

1122
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: agent process. Break time for us here when we come back,

1123
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: where can I take a look at the NFL player

1124
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: who was at the US Track and Field Championships running

1125
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: in the one hundred meters. You'll recognize him from a

1126
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: rather long run from last season. We'll talk about DK

1127
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: Metcalf's performance when we come back here on One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Collot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

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00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

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00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf. Did you see him run at the US

1131
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: Track and Field champions five? But I've watched the Olympic qualifiers. Yep,

1132
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: he got, he got, Actually he didn't got last in

1133
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: his heat nine guys, he was two tents behind the

1134
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: winner and about four steps I guess he's come in

1135
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: lane two lane too, all the way on the right

1136
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: there for our MSG viewers that are watching this, and

1137
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: he looks like everybody in the race is big brother.

1138
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: He's bigger, but like a grizzly bear running against antelopes.

1139
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: And here's the thing what people get. DK Metcalfe knew

1140
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: going in there it's gonna be a tough haul for

1141
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: him to get to the finals and get to the

1142
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 1: Olympic team. But the thing about it is, go man,

1143
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: do it. I love it. I do too. Why not?

1144
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: I remember when Marquis Goodwin was doing that here as

1145
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: a long jump long jumper. Yeah, and he was pretty

1146
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: good at that and went to the London Games before

1147
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: he got here, I want to say, yeah, two thousand

1148
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: and twelve London Games. Yeah, and then he got drafted

1149
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, so the year after, but he went

1150
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: to trials to try to make it too. Afterwards. The

1151
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: thing is people are like, oh, he can't run, he's

1152
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: not as fast as the fastest guys in the world. Well, yeah,

1153
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: because he's carrying fifty extra pounds and anybody else on

1154
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: that track. There's nobody on that track over one. Yeah,

1155
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: he carries a little bit of extra way. He's two

1156
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: thirty five. Yeah. And here's the thing too, no question,

1157
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to be an elite fast runner on planet Earth.

1158
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: These guys are really fast, that's what they do and

1159
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: I've seen, but by the same token, there have been

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Speaker 1: only maybe a handful of really great track guys who

1161
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: were good at football. Yeah, it's hard transition to make.

1162
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: The knock on track guys when they came to football

1163
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: used to be that. They just they weren't physically tough enough,

1164
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: first of all, because the sport never you know, if

1165
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: you got a hang nail, the guy didn't, you know,

1166
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: you don't run that day, that kind of thing. It's

1167
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: they were kind of diva. They have that reputation of

1168
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: being that way. Now that's certainly that's not all of them.

1169
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: Certainly there's some tough guys that do it. But the

1170
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: guys who came to the NFL, you know, they had

1171
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 1: trouble applying that speed to an athletic frame, to change

1172
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: of direction, to stopping and starting, because you don't you know,

1173
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: you don't stop and you don't you know, all you

1174
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: do is start. You're running a straight line. It's a

1175
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: little bit like asking a hockey player to come out

1176
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: and play defensive back. It's a different skill set. And

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Speaker 1: while dk Metcalf does stand out on the football field

1178
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:27,360
Speaker 1: with that speed, particularly at that size, it's it's a

1179
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: much wider range of skills that you have to have

1180
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: to be a football player than it is to be

1181
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: a you know, a sprinter. Um. Here we're gonna see MSG.

1182
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: People are seeing the play where it's here, Buddha Baker

1183
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: picks it off and takes off run and right at

1184
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: the at the five yard line and when he gets

1185
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: to what it looks like, yeah, the six or seven

1186
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: yard line the other end, Uh, dk Metcalf ran him

1187
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: down and walked him down. And Uh, Buddha Baker's a

1188
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: fast dude. I know this, did you. Uh? I've been

1189
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: run down by track guy before too. Willie Galt got

1190
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: me and it wasn't close, but it wasn't the one

1191
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: yard line as well. Same thing. But guys like that

1192
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: are different fast and DK Metcalf is a different guy.

1193
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: He's a different fast than guys in football. Long strider, big,

1194
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: strong guy and straight ahead, really good speed. Um aside

1195
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: from quickness, so That play that he made against the

1196
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals last year for the Seahawks was iconic because

1197
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: him they held him, uh, and that was it. It's great.

1198
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: It's a little bit like the Don Bby play from

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty six or seven, super Bowl twenty seven

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01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: when he ran Leon letdown. Same kind of athletic ability.

1201
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: Same thing with James Harrison picking off a pass in

1202
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and going one hundred yards and Larry

1203
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald got him, but he tried to go for the

1204
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: strip instead of just getting him on the ground, and

1205
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: the guy scored a touchdown with it. That was a

1206
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: difference in that game. So you see plays like that

1207
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: where a guy's speed and his tenacity kind of show up,

1208
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 1: and and you never see that kind of stuff in sprinters.

1209
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: They get out, they run fast. Who ran fastest that guy?

1210
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: The competition is different when you see just a foot

1211
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: race than it is when you're seeing some other sport.

1212
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: Did you see the women's one hundred? I did not?

1213
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: Was it noteworthy? If you don't know the name Shakari Henderson,

1214
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: you will by the end of the Olympics. Yeah, she

1215
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: looks like flow Joe out there. Oh does she? She

1216
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: is far ahead track speaking, far ahead of everybody else

1217
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: in the heat. Yesterday just out of the blocks, got

1218
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: to about fifty yards and the race was over. Like

1219
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: she was widening her lead as she finished. Let me

1220
01:04:56,000 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: write this down. What's her name? Shakari Richardson saj apostrophe

1221
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: c A R R. I believe I'm pronouncing that correctly.

1222
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: Ran a ten to seven seven win dated one. So

1223
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 1: good stuff. Yeah, I think we're gonna know who she is,

1224
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: or a lot more people are gonna know who she

1225
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: is come the end of July. Well, anyway, hats off

1226
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: to DK metcalf Man. I'm glad you did it. I

1227
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: know you didn't win it, but hey, for trying, you

1228
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 1: made us proud in my opinion, and he'll never have

1229
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: to wonder that's right because he tried it. We gotta

1230
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 1: take a break, but when we come back, it's Bill's

1231
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: fifth round Draft Joys. Tommy Doyle gonna join us here

1232
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: on the show. We'll see how he's doing and how

1233
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: prepared he feels he is for Rookie Minicamp coming up

1234
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: later this week. That's coming up next here on One

1235
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's

1236
01:05:48,400 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: Radio at a Steve tester who has been all over

1237
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of a

1238
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're

1239
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: not even in the straded here of normalcy here. Oh,

1240
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: we're number three of a Monday edition of One Bills

1241
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: Live and time to bring in Bill's fifth round draft choice,

1242
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: the Pride of e dynam Minnesota one. Tommy Doyle joining

1243
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: us on the program. And Tommy, we haven't had a

1244
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: chance to talk to you directly, so let us extend

1245
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: our congratulations to you. A great week for you and

1246
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: your family. Last week getting drafted, that was awesome? Or

1247
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: the week before? Actually it's two weeks in the review,

1248
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: mirright now? How you holding up here? Are the nerves

1249
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: starting to kick in here as you get ready for

1250
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: rookie minicamp? I mean, man, I'm just excited to get

1251
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: out there, you know, meet everyone. I'm already diving into

1252
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: the playbook. So it's just just a really exciting time.

1253
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 1: What I guess I'll ask you this the same question

1254
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: every a draft pick gets asked, how how were your

1255
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: conversations with the Bills if there were any leading up

1256
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: to the draft. Um, Yeah, I know, I thought they

1257
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 1: were good. You know, Coach Johnson, the old line coach,

1258
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: actually came out to my pro DA and worked me

1259
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: out there, so I definitely felt like there was an interest,

1260
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: and once they picked me, I was just very excited

1261
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: to be to be a part of it. How cool

1262
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: is it that your old line coach in the pros

1263
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: is also a Miami University alum. That's got to be

1264
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: kind of like a cool little connection. Not saying you're

1265
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: getting any special treatment, we know that won't happen, but

1266
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: still it's kind of a cool thing that you know

1267
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: he can relate to you on that kind of a level. Yeah,

1268
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: no doubt. Yeah, he played at Miami Ohio, which is

1269
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: a super cool connection. So that was that was cool

1270
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: for him to come come back to his alma matter

1271
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: and work worked me out for pro day as well.

1272
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: What did you hear in the run up to the

1273
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: draft from all the teams? I mean, you tilt the

1274
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: scales like your three hundred and twenty and you're six

1275
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: feet eight inches, so you're one of these big guys.

1276
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: You fit that type, did teams? You know what they

1277
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: tell you about your size and how you'd fit in

1278
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: and where they had you envisioned playing. Um. Yeah, you know,

1279
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: obviously I'm a bigger guy. Most teams just felt like

1280
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: the way for me to be successful is to use

1281
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 1: that length the right way, be able to bend um,

1282
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, not make sure it's I'm not using it

1283
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: to my disadvantage. Um. Yeah, that was That was the

1284
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: main the main thing coaches talk to me about. And

1285
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: then Temmy, I know that you're left handed. You told

1286
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: us during the break you are left handed. So when

1287
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: you made the switch from right to left, did that

1288
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: did that make the transition that much easier being on

1289
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: your dominant hand side. I mean, I don't know if

1290
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: your feet kind of followed, but I guess flipping it

1291
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: ought to be a little bit easy right handed. But

1292
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: I like in hockey, I shot left handed. Oh you did? Okay? Yeah,

1293
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: But my first two two years at Miami, I played

1294
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: right tackle right. Um, and then in twenty nineteen I

1295
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: made the switch over to left tackle. Um. You know,

1296
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: I felt like it went pretty smoothly. I had had

1297
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: an off season to kind of transition. Obviously, there's some

1298
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: muscle memory that happens that you kind of got used

1299
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: to certain things. But you know now, I feel like

1300
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: I'm to the point where I can play both sides

1301
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: and be pretty fluid at each way. Give us an idea.

1302
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 1: You know, you won the Mac title in twenty nineteen.

1303
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: Talk to us a little bit about that championship team.

1304
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: What it meant to you that the kind of offense

1305
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,600
Speaker 1: that you ran. Uh, what are your strengths and weaknesses,

1306
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,879
Speaker 1: you know, run game pass, game pass pro, run blocking,

1307
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 1: UM and on that championship team in twenty nineteen, how

1308
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: did you fit in? Yeah, that that championship year was

1309
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 1: something I'll ever forget. You know, when I got recruited,

1310
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: they come to Miami, Ohio, UM, they weren't necessarily the

1311
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: best team. They had struggled lately. UM coach Martin, the

1312
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: head coach there, kind of pitched to me the vision

1313
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: they had to turn the program around and you know,

1314
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: recreate the culture there. So I feel like in twenty nineteen,

1315
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, we were able to do that. We always

1316
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: said we wanted to play play smart and tough and together,

1317
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's what we did. And I

1318
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: feel like I was a leader on that team and

1319
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: was able to bring the guys together and really rally

1320
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 1: because we started the year off slow that year. You know,

1321
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: we went one and three in our out of conference

1322
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: play and we were banged up, but we bounced back

1323
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 1: and we were a tough team, and it was just

1324
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: an awesome moment to win that championship. I remember on

1325
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: the media conference call, you know, a week or so ago,

1326
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: right after you got drafted, Tommy, I asked you about

1327
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: the matchup you had with aj Epenesso, who's now your

1328
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: teammate here in Buffalo. I had no idea it was

1329
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: your first start at left tackle. And I know you

1330
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: said you had a full offseason to kind of work

1331
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 1: the transition, but what was What was that like? Because

1332
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, I know you're always getting ready for every

1333
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: opponent you face, but that's a pretty formidable guy to

1334
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: face in your first start after flipping from the right

1335
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: to the left. Yeah, I mean, no doubt. It was

1336
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: something that kind of motivated me in the offseason. I

1337
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: knew we were playing Iowa week one. I knew he

1338
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 1: was a hell of a player, and so to be

1339
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: able to have that matchup and you know, play at

1340
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 1: Kinnick Stadium in front of all those fans, um, you know,

1341
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: I just try to treat it treat it like every

1342
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: other game and just prepare and be ready to go.

1343
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: I know you're still young in your NFL career, but

1344
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: you've you played a lot of football and also earlier

1345
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: in your in your life, you played a lot of hockey.

1346
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: How did playing multiple sports, you know, until your high

1347
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,640
Speaker 1: school years help you? Do you think it was a

1348
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: plus minus? And why did you give up hockey? Yeah?

1349
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: I definitely think it was a plus. Um. You know,

1350
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: I was a defenseman in hockey. I did a lot

1351
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,759
Speaker 1: of you know, backwards skating crossovers on ice. I definitely

1352
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: feel like that helped my quickness when I'm in cleats. Um.

1353
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, ultimately, I stopped playing hockey my sophomore year

1354
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: of high school. I was I was getting too big,

1355
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: I was growing Um. I felt like football was a

1356
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: better path for me to play in college. So I

1357
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: kind of switched my focus over to that. And then

1358
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: the thing because we always talked a lot of a

1359
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: lot of guys in the NFL level have some kind

1360
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 1: of basketball background, especially guys that are your height, you know,

1361
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: like your new teammate Spencer Brown, he played a lot

1362
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: of basketball in IOA. I think it was all state

1363
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: and you can see how the footwork in basketball would

1364
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: help an offensive tackle. But I gotta believe hockey from

1365
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: a balance standpoint has to really be helpful for an

1366
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, especially with change of direction and things like that.

1367
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: And you mentioned you know you've you've gone in reverse

1368
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: an awful lot on skates, So pass protection I gotta

1369
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 1: believe comes pretty naturally to you too. But what about

1370
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: the balance specifically hockey to football, Tommy, No, Yeah, I think,

1371
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: as you said, it definitely helps. You know, in hockey

1372
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of change of direction, a lot of quick,

1373
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,839
Speaker 1: sharp movements. You know, you have to have good balance,

1374
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: and I think it definitely helped transfer over on in

1375
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,600
Speaker 1: the football field. You grew up in a Dina, Minnesota.

1376
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: You also, and I know this playing in high school football.

1377
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 1: For a guy like you, you had to play both

1378
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 1: sides of the football. You played a little defensive line,

1379
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: You did all that. How much emphasis or when did

1380
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 1: you finally decide? Was it in college in Miami, Ohio

1381
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: when you got recruited or whatever? Did you ever flirt

1382
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: with playing defender instead of offensive line? I was primarily

1383
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: a defensive end in high school, you know, that was

1384
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: my main position. I played a little bit of tight

1385
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,799
Speaker 1: end and offensive tackle my senior year, just because coaches

1386
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: were recruiting me and saying that they saw me as

1387
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. But you know, defensive end was my

1388
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 1: main position, you know. But I came to Miami, Ohio

1389
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: knowing that I was making the switch over to tackle.

1390
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 1: So once I got there as a freshman, that was

1391
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: when I really, you know, put all my focus on

1392
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: learning how to play offensive tackle and learning how to

1393
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: be alignment. Talking to Bill's fifth round picked, Tommy Doyle here,

1394
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: who is going to be back in town late in

1395
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: the week for rookie minicamp as the draft choices and

1396
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,799
Speaker 1: the undrafted sign he's coming to town, Tommy, With respect

1397
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: to your height, I'm assuming you've always been tall, or

1398
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: at least one of the all as kids in the

1399
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: class in grade school or whatever it might be. But

1400
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 1: being that tall at tackle for a long period of time,

1401
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: I would tend to think that, you know, the general

1402
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: approach of opponents, they're going to try to get under

1403
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 1: you because in most cases they're not as tall as you.

1404
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: So bending, as you already mentioned, is important, is that

1405
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: what is kind of firing off in your brain besides

1406
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,759
Speaker 1: the snap count every time you're getting ready for a rep,

1407
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: because you know people are going to just look at

1408
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: you and say, well, this guy's so tall and long,

1409
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to go around him. I

1410
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: gotta get under him if I'm going to have a

1411
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: fighting chance. Is that kind of the assumption you almost

1412
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: go in with every snap? Yeah, definitely, it's a point

1413
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: of emphasis. You know, leverage is very important in the

1414
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: run game, you know, setting my pads low, and then

1415
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: as you said, in pass protection, you know, if I'm

1416
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: standing up too tall and opening up, you know, guys

1417
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 1: tarted my chest. So it's definitely a point of emphasis.

1418
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: How tough was it just playing three games this last season? Yeah?

1419
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: It was. It was an interesting season, you know it was.

1420
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: It was obviously a little disappointing. Um would have liked

1421
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: to play more, but you know it was kind of

1422
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: out of my control, and I was just happy to

1423
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: be able to get those three Dames in. Did you

1424
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 1: think Tommy that you know, you guys had a good

1425
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: look at you know, repeating as as mac Champs had.

1426
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: It been like, I know, you guys got some games in,

1427
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: but like I'm talking like a full blown season like

1428
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: nineteen was Yeah, No, that was that was the goal

1429
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: of that season was to be back to back MAC champs. Um,

1430
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't work out that way, and only

1431
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 1: playing three games, you know, with COVID was obviously not ideal,

1432
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,879
Speaker 1: but like I said, it was out of our control.

1433
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: What's your schedule this coming week? I know rookie Minicamp.

1434
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna be in town. You're gonna be

1435
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: in town on Wednesday with the rest of the guys. Yep, yep,

1436
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 1: that's correct. What cityd fly out of in Minnesota? I'm

1437
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: flying out of Minneapolis. How far is that from I Dinah,

1438
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: It's only like twenty minutes, okay. And then I got

1439
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: to ask you, um, because you know, land to ten

1440
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,639
Speaker 1: thousand lakes. Ice fishing part of the background here, Tommy.

1441
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: I've done a little bit of ice fishing. Yeah, yeah,

1442
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: So what don't usually, Tommy, don't go on the ice

1443
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: when you're three twenty? Bro? What it gets thick enough

1444
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: up there? He's good. Guys drive trucks out there with

1445
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: their sheds, right, do it? Don't do it? Yeah? And

1446
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: they do a little bit of that here in the

1447
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: Inner Harbor. So if you're you know, if you really

1448
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: get an itch come January. There are places around here

1449
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: where you could do that. There's guys that do it

1450
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 1: over there in the Inner Harbor. So if you need,

1451
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: if you need to get a hold of somebody, you

1452
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: let us know. I want to try to get your

1453
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: hooked up so you can drop a line through the

1454
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 1: ice one day, if you don't mind. Tell us a

1455
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: little bit about your family, Brothers, sisters. Um, yeah, I

1456
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: have one sister. She's a year and a half older

1457
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: than me. She works as a nurse. My dad speaking

1458
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: while speaking of fishing, my dad has a cabin in

1459
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: northern Minnesota. So we do a lot, a lot of

1460
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: fishing in the summer when we can, like smallmouth bass.

1461
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: We do a lot of muscle were talking, Yeah, I

1462
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 1: mean me and my dad love love to get out

1463
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: on the lake. We don't do as much ice fishing. Um,

1464
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: and you know when we do, we gotta make sure

1465
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: there's there's twelve inches of ice, so you know I'm

1466
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,880
Speaker 1: not falling through. See here already knows how to think.

1467
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: It's you have some people depending on you up here,

1468
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: so make sure you make that's good. Yeah, right, that's good. Well, listen, Tommy,

1469
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: we appreciate the time. It was good getting to know

1470
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: you a little bit. We look forward to us seeing

1471
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: you up here on the field. So safe travels and

1472
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: we'll see you here real soon. Take care now, Yeah,

1473
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate you guys having me all right.

1474
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: That's Bill's fifth round Draft Joys Tommy Doyle. Man, he's

1475
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: he's already living the life I want to live when

1476
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm done working. I gotta freaking lake house. He's dropping

1477
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: lines in the water. That's like, that's my speed for retirement, man.

1478
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: That is where it's. Yeah, you're gonna be on a

1479
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: golf course somewhere. I'm gonna be on a boat with

1480
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: a line in the water. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm glad

1481
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: we've got that nailed down right. Yeah you can be Yeah,

1482
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: I get ssick and uh do you really? Yeah? Bad,

1483
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: it's bad. I'm totally And I'm sure you've tried all

1484
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 1: the tricks too, right, like, yeah, stare at the horizon.

1485
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. All problem is when I you know, you

1486
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: do it. We went out on the on the in

1487
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: the Gulf. It's like, yeah's eight foot waves, soap and water,

1488
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: and I was okay until I couldn't focus on the

1489
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 1: on the horizon and then when you lose the side

1490
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: of land, when you're out that far, then I was done.

1491
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 1: I was under deck, laying on my back with my

1492
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: hand over and for like six hours, you were, mister

1493
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: Middle America. Yeah and right. And for those of you

1494
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: who don't know, if you get c sick, you don't

1495
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: go under and lay down. That's the worst. You can't

1496
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: do anything. You you really you almost have to pass

1497
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: away to improve you really, you really really are spoken

1498
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: like a true Middle of America. You really resident. Yeah,

1499
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 1: you're really ready for that. Just take me now, and

1500
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: there's no denying it. Thank you. Now, take me now.

1501
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: It's bad, bro, it is so bad. And U So

1502
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: I grew up on boats, so I have my sea legs.

1503
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 1: Fortunately I didn't have to suffer the strange too, because

1504
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:11,800
Speaker 1: I go out on you know, I can canoe and

1505
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: kayak and all that. Oh yeah, and lakes are fine, right,

1506
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: lakes are five. Yeah, I mean maybe not water, not

1507
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: Lake Ontario on a rough day. But you know, you

1508
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 1: like water, ski and do all that stuff. But if you, yeah,

1509
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: you get me out on the big like if I'm

1510
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: on a cruise ship, fine, oh yeah, because that's like

1511
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,759
Speaker 1: a charter boat. Yeah. So unless it's the Poseidon adventure,

1512
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: You're okay. But I'm telling you when I go out,

1513
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: when you go out, yeah, it's I'm it's different. It

1514
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: diff affects you. Yeah, because I like like my daughter

1515
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: in Alaska. It affects decisions you make about what you're

1516
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: gonna do. When you're up there. It's like, how's it

1517
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,600
Speaker 1: gonna be? Can we go fishing? Yeah? Where we're gonna go?

1518
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: How long? You know? Because I'm not you're not doing deadly.

1519
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: I'm watching it. I am opting out if it and

1520
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't choose the hiking mountain reineer and it's over

1521
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 1: the fishing trip. That's right. I don't need to catch

1522
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 1: king salmon. I'm good on the mountain. It's almost the

1523
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: point where it's if there's even a whisper, I don't

1524
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: even like say well, may I'll give it a truck.

1525
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: Because once you're out there, you know how bad it is.

1526
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 1: You're stuck. You know how bad it is because nobody's

1527
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 1: bringing you in just for one can tell you how

1528
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: bad sea sickness is. This is a true story. A

1529
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:22,919
Speaker 1: friend of mine, he has a brother, very successful businessman.

1530
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 1: He had He told me this story. He had a

1531
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: brother who was very successful businessman, got some cash and

1532
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 1: they went out on a on a boat and there's

1533
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: like it was a boat. It was. It wasn't a

1534
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: big boat, but there was like a number of people

1535
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 1: on the boat. They were fishing right, and it got

1536
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: a little rough and he got sea sick and it's

1537
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 1: so bad. This is the he goes. He's he's, let

1538
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 1: me listen, I will buy the boat. If you just

1539
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: get me into shore. I will buy the boat. He

1540
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: didn't you, he was, I will buy the boat. Just

1541
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: get me to shoot. That's how bad it is when

1542
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 1: you're s sick. There is you cannot escape it. Well, no,

1543
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 1: there is no escape and nobody's helping you to escape

1544
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 1: because nobody's calling a fishing Yeah, because this guy's not

1545
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 1: feeling good, Just yak over the side, over the side

1546
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: and have some ginger ale. That's right, you know, get

1547
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: Nobody cares. And that's that is true. Nobody really it hurts.

1548
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: So I mean, it doesn't hurt, it's just you just

1549
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: can't escape it. There's no body position, no place you

1550
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: can look, no trick, no nothing that you can do

1551
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,840
Speaker 1: to make it go away. And it's that helps a little.

1552
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:31,719
Speaker 1: By the boat just helps a little. Once there's nothing

1553
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: left to cough up anymore, like once your system is help,

1554
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't help. Well, it doesn't help. I've done that.

1555
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: It does not help. Okay, I've fed the fish. Yeah,

1556
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: you're chumming the water. Fame does not help. There's no escape.

1557
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: That's just that's the thing. There's just no escape from it.

1558
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: And that's the that's the really worst part about It's

1559
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: a mental anguish as well. So anyway, Tommy Tommy Doyle

1560
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: obviously doesn't you don't have to worry about that when

1561
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 1: you're ice fishing, no, or yeah, and the lake's up there,

1562
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: well unless unless he's on Lake Superior, you know, six

1563
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: eight three point Yeah, I just gotta be a foot thick, bro. Yeah,

1564
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: well he knows. He said, it's gotta be at least

1565
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: twelve inches. But they drive those guys have those fishing

1566
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: sheds over the drive, drive the truck out there, driving

1567
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: a truck out there, and part of yeah, they just

1568
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: and they truck too, parked the truck too. Yep. Yeah,

1569
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: that's that's cold. That's serious. That's serious. And I get

1570
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 1: it too. That'd be fun, right you got a little

1571
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: house there. You say, yeah, kick up the heat or too.

1572
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, yeah, I could see that. Seems

1573
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: that that that sounds fun to me. That's bear and

1574
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: you're not rock. I'm not getting solid ice, I'm not

1575
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 1: getting csick on. You're not getting right. You're right because

1576
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you you make you make life decisions based

1577
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: on the fact you want to. That's right, without even

1578
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: having a put it in the fridge. That's right. So

1579
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: to Doyle sounds like he's gonna fit in. Oh I

1580
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, him and Spencer Brown are gonna be

1581
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 1: thick as thieves, can't you see? It's gracious two of

1582
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: both of them. Six eight? Yeah. Man, man, where are

1583
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: we talking about? Nicknames already? Called those two guys and

1584
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 1: sequoias or something. Well, yeah, that and well they got

1585
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: the other guy with forest lamp has got the sequoia lamp.

1586
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: That's right, he does. Oh, there's some marketing opportunities here.

1587
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: Can't see the forest for the trees. Yeah, but yeah,

1588
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 1: that's they got. They got some size. Yeah, I mean

1589
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: forest lamp six five and he's a guard. Yeah, they're

1590
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: all all those guys are Oh my gosh, you walk

1591
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: in in you walk out of this. It's a it's

1592
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: a hard room. And that's why Sean McDermot is so impressive.

1593
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: He's a wrestlert he's got that mentality. But do you

1594
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: stand in front of a team meeting in the NFL,

1595
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 1: it's a it's a tough room. And we're not talking

1596
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: stand up comedy either, No, you know, it's you talk

1597
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 1: about a tough crowd. NFL team meeting is a tough crowd.

1598
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: They're serious dudes, and and it runs the gamut young old,

1599
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: well relatively young guys, to guys in their thirties, guys

1600
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: who were just starting out wondering, you know, wondering what

1601
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna do for dinner that night, to guys who

1602
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: have got to go home. They got they got a

1603
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: successful business on the side, you know that kind of stuff.

1604
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: They got people that work for them. You know, it's

1605
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,600
Speaker 1: a tough hit. It is a tough crowd, and you

1606
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: have to appeal to all of them. Yeah, you gotta

1607
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 1: carry that off. You gotta carry that off. So it's you.

1608
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 1: You get those guys in the room, like guys like

1609
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 1: Bobby Johnson, the offensive line coach. You got to you

1610
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: gotta know your stuff. It's an impressive field. Yeah, and

1611
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 1: I would say the most important thing, and Brandon Being

1612
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,599
Speaker 1: addressed this when he was on with us last week,

1613
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: Having guys that tall is obviously an advantage from a

1614
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: reach perspective. I mean, both of these guys have almost

1615
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: thirty six inch arms, So steering guys around the edge,

1616
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, of the pocket, is not the problem. The

1617
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: problem is being able to sync their hips and bend

1618
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 1: to get their pad level low enough. And that's why

1619
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: I was talking to him about it, just to hear

1620
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: what his thoughts were. And you know, Brandon being said,

1621
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: both of these guys are athletic enough where they can bend.

1622
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: And if you think about Spencer Brown's basketball background, you're

1623
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: in a defensive stance. Maybe not so much for him,

1624
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 1: he's probably in the post playing defense under the basket,

1625
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: but Tommy talked about it. I mean, when you're in

1626
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: reverse and hockey, you don't do that standing up. You're

1627
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: crouching for balance and you're on your toes pushing off

1628
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 1: your toes going in reverse. So I gotta believe that

1629
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: balance in hockey helped him out a ton in offensive

1630
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,719
Speaker 1: line play. Yeah, and he was he was already started

1631
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: he just kind of grew out of a hockey game.

1632
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: Got too big, right, he's six ten. S imagine that

1633
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 1: guy at the blue line six ten with an extra

1634
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:37,840
Speaker 1: one hundred ten pounds. That's big. And that's what it

1635
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: is too. When you're rushing the past or, think about it.

1636
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 1: You're trying to get it's it's the difference between trying

1637
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: to run around a trash can to get to the

1638
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: quarterback rather than a double wide fridge trying to get

1639
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: to the pastor. It's just that much more with his

1640
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: reach and the strength that they have is just it's

1641
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: that much further for a guy that it's just that

1642
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: many more problems for how long his hockey stick was

1643
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: one of his like eighty inches, you know, like in

1644
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: their char has got a gigantic stick, isn't it? Isn't

1645
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: there a limit on how long you think it is?

1646
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: Do they measure it with the guy's body like that?

1647
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I used to know that. I can't

1648
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: remember that they used to be. I used to when

1649
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: the when my guys used to play, they said, you know,

1650
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: you wanted it either when you're in skates, you wanted

1651
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: you to come up to your chin and when you

1652
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 1: were out of your skates. You wanted to come up

1653
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: to your nose. Yeah, I think as a general rule,

1654
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: but you know, guys obviously like it shorter or long

1655
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: can exceed sixty three inches from the heel of the

1656
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: stick to the end of the shaft. Okay, sixty three inches.

1657
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 1: Sixty three inches, all right, there you go. Yeah, so

1658
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 1: I guess he wasn't playing with a stick any longer.

1659
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: That char has got to be right there at the

1660
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: at the edge of that he's got to be right. Sure,

1661
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that are like a longer

1662
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: stick and they pushed the envelope too, right, So right, Yeah,

1663
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: we'll have to see. Um, I should have asked him that.

1664
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 1: I was just curious more than anything else. I mean,

1665
01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: sophomore in high school. Maybe he's only six six six five,

1666
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: and it was just not that big at all, you know,

1667
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: he compared to what he is now. Yeah, it's fun.

1668
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to see these guys line up. Um,

1669
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: it's gets you excited seeing and getting a chance to

1670
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: talk to him. Also, you know, we had Spencer Long

1671
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: on Brown. I don't know why I keep because there

1672
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: was a guy named Spencer Long that's offensive line in

1673
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: the league. That it's gonna be Spencer Brown. We had

1674
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: him on last week. Now we had Tommy Doyle on

1675
01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: along with Greg Rousseau. All these guys and they're all

1676
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 1: really tall guys. Yeah, what's I think what's going to

1677
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: be interesting just by virtue of the fact that they

1678
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: drafted two offensive tackles with their third and fourth picks respectively,

1679
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: that some of the free agents that they brought in

1680
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 1: here prior to the draft. I wonder if they are

1681
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: going to start some of those veteran players out inside

1682
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: at guard positions to get these young kids as many

1683
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 1: reps as possible at the tackle position, even if it

1684
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 1: is with the second team. Do you know what I'm saying,

1685
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,719
Speaker 1: Like you have Dion and Darryl As you're starting tackles

1686
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: left and right, respectively, and then Spencer Brown and Tommy

1687
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: Doyle our second team offensive tackles right behind them, and

1688
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: you're getting them as many reps as you can all

1689
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: through the off season. We really had some consternation over

1690
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: this last year because we couldn't see it and we

1691
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:27,759
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to see it in games or anything.

1692
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: But you got to know that there you got five

1693
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: guys playing offensive line, and you've got eight guys behind

1694
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: those first five that are waiting for a chance to

1695
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: get on. And those five may be okay like they're

1696
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: currently situated, but if you switch the two guards around

1697
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: on either side or the tackle on the guard and

1698
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: trade their places, the combination of that is better than

1699
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 1: it was otherwise. And then you got other five guys.

1700
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,679
Speaker 1: Well if when you so you got these thirteen guys

1701
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 1: about usually thirteen offensive linemen for five spots in whatever

1702
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: combination you can place. There's a lot of permutations that

1703
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 1: you kind of have to sort through as as a

1704
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: coaching staff to find the best five in the best

1705
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 1: combination to get on the field. Yeah, Like an example

1706
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 1: would be Bobby Hart, you know, the free agent they

1707
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: signed from Cincinnati. He was a right tackle there in Cincinnati.

1708
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:25,479
Speaker 1: But the drafted these two kids. It might be like, hey, Bobby,

1709
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna line you up at guard. See how you

1710
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: do there. We're gonna get the reps for these young

1711
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: kids for slam guard all the way. Well, yeah, he

1712
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: is a guard, but yes, and Daryl Williams, the right

1713
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: tackle who played so well last year, played most of

1714
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: his career at guard. Maybe you're thinking, Okay, if one

1715
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: of these kids knocks it out of the park, we

1716
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: can slide him down or use him as a swing

1717
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: guard or whatever. But the competition is real and also too,

1718
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm not to be cynical. Money enters into it. If

1719
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: they got a cheap, young labor that they trust. Yeah,

1720
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: the old expensive labor can can leave or get traded

1721
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: to teams who are looking for and he all of

1722
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're looking pretty good in the twenty twenty

1723
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 1: two draft because you picked up three extra picks by

1724
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 1: trading a couple of really quality veterans. Yeah, I mean,

1725
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: that's that happens as well, it looks like it is

1726
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: going to happen. Jacksonville is going to sign Tim Tebow

1727
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 1: to a one year deal as a tight end, reuniting

1728
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:26,479
Speaker 1: him with his former college coach at the University of Florida,

1729
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. We had heard about this for probably a

1730
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: couple of weeks now after the initial contact was made

1731
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: between Tebow and the Jaguars, and now it looks like,

1732
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: at the very least, he will be on the team's

1733
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: offseason roster and try to make a go of its

1734
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: steve at the tight end position, which was a position

1735
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: that was suggested for him coming out of college as

1736
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 1: a position change. Now he is going to try to

1737
01:30:53,720 --> 01:31:01,799
Speaker 1: undertake that at age thirty three. Your thoughts to Steep Hill, Yeah,

1738
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 1: to step Hill. His athleticism will carry him through a

1739
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: little bit. His competitive nature and I think there's no

1740
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: question that urban Meyer brings Tim Tebow into the fold

1741
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 1: on the chance that he can play, but with the

1742
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 1: certainty that he's going to be a great influence. He's

1743
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: going to be a positive. He's going to show some

1744
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: guys how he wants it done. He's going to be

1745
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 1: the kind of attitude that urban Meyer wants that the

1746
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 1: permutate his entire roster. That's a certainty. The football ability is,

1747
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a roll of the dice, which it is.

1748
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 1: They do need tight end help. I mean, they cut

1749
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Tyler Eifford in the off season heading into free agency,

1750
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 1: and I'm anticipating Tebow is going to be largely of

1751
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: the blocking variety in line and you know, short to

1752
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 1: intermediate receive, it'll be it'll be hard. You'll be hard

1753
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:03,680
Speaker 1: pressed to find a guy who work harder at it.

1754
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll throw himself in one hundred percent to

1755
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: the tight end position, just like he was trying to

1756
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 1: do with quarterback, just like he's trying to do with baseball.

1757
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: How successful he is is going to be, it remains

1758
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: to be seen. But you know you're gonna get a

1759
01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: full effort from the guy, and you know he's going

1760
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: to be a great example of the guys around him

1761
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 1: in the room, and he's gonna bring to the table

1762
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: the mentality that he had as a quarterback, which is

1763
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: a kind of a big picture which is always a

1764
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:29,000
Speaker 1: plus for young guys. Um, I don't have a problem

1765
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: with it at all at all. No good on him,

1766
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: forget yeah whirl and you just wonder what his career

1767
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: could have been had he made that position switch early

1768
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 1: in his career, which was the general consens. We'll get

1769
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 1: an idea that I'll bet you we'll get an idea

1770
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 1: of that, even at thirty three, and he doesn't have

1771
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: any miles on him football wise playing baseball, so I'm

1772
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 1: thinking we'll get an idea of how good he could have,

1773
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: would have should have. Might be break time for us

1774
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 1: when we come back. More of your thoughts on the tweet,

1775
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,280
Speaker 1: cheat a little NFL true falls and your phone calls

1776
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: at eight o three oh five fifty back in a

1777
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: second here on one Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health,

1778
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, Welcome back, talking just about everything

1779
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: under the sun. Some free agent moves. We got Tim

1780
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 1: Tebow looks like he's gonna sign with Jacksonville and try

1781
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: to resuscitate his career at age thirty three. At a

1782
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: different position. We did see the Colts sign former Chief's

1783
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: offensive tackle Eric Fisher to a one year, nine point

1784
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: four million dollar deal. Whether he's ready for the start

1785
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 1: of the season is another question after he suffered in

1786
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,120
Speaker 1: an achilles tear in the AFC title Game against the Bills.

1787
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 1: So I don't know if that timetable is gonna line up. Yeah,

1788
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: it's him in reporter. They're not gonna push him too hard.

1789
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: But even if he even if he comes back like

1790
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 1: in October or November, he's there for the stretch run

1791
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: down the playoffs. He's a quality he's a quality left

1792
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: tackle and it'll be a perfe timing for them and

1793
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: even when they need it. Yeah. So let's go to

1794
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: the phones though. At eight oh three, five fifty, we

1795
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: got Jim in Orchard Park with a question about the schedule,

1796
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: which is coming out on Wednesday, Jim, when you have

1797
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: for us? I fellows hey looking real facts and jackson're

1798
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 1: talking about ice fishy. I got a tip for you.

1799
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 1: Will you get out of the car and you start

1800
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: walking on the ice. Let's the biggest staddist guy walk

1801
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 1: on that ice first, and then you follow his footsteps. Okay, Okay,

1802
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 1: there's one to perfect. It's usually not me. So yeah, no,

1803
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: I won't be if a big fat guy gets out

1804
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 1: of a car. I'm pretty sure think I'm pretty thinking

1805
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 1: he's pretty sure safe if you got the car out there.

1806
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: My question, my question is if a lot of rumors

1807
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm hearing about futball and Tampa Bay Thursday night gave

1808
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,679
Speaker 1: the opener. Yeah, I want to know if you've guys

1809
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: hear anything about that. And another question is if you

1810
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 1: were the GM, Well, you rather play Tampa Bay or

1811
01:34:56,800 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 1: Kansas City and the opener and get get it over with.

1812
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: But would you'd rather line up against a couple of

1813
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: weeks or teams the first few games? And yeah, I

1814
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: mean I hear that, Jim. You always want to get

1815
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 1: off to a fast start. But I think Steve will

1816
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: be the first to tell you the NFL regular season

1817
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: is a marathon, not a sprint. You certainly don't want

1818
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: to have a three game losing streak or anything like

1819
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: that anywhere in your schedule if you can help it.

1820
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 1: But the Bills did that in twenty seventeen when nine

1821
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,840
Speaker 1: and seven is still got into playoffs. So it's not impossible.

1822
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 1: But I get what you're saying. There's a different There's

1823
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: a couple of ways to look at that. You know,

1824
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 1: do you want the element of surprise, you know, against

1825
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 1: a juggernaut opponent, whether it's the either of the teams

1826
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: that showed up in the Super Bowl, maybe of course

1827
01:35:45,240 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 1: they have the same element of surprise they could spring

1828
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 1: on you as well. So I think there's different ways

1829
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 1: you can look at that and weigh the pros and

1830
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: the cons. I think if you ask any coach in

1831
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 1: this league, they'll tell you we got to play who

1832
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: we got to play at some point, whether it's at

1833
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: the beginning of the middle of the end, we don't care.

1834
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: We know who we have to face, will be as

1835
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: prepared as we can for each and every one of those.

1836
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:09,000
Speaker 1: You gotta be ready, that's all there is to it.

1837
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 1: You're gonna it doesn't it's irrelevant. When you play them,

1838
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be ready, and you're gonna have

1839
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: as much time to get ready as that other team does,

1840
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 1: and sooner or later you're gonna have to, you know,

1841
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 1: strap it on. I think the other question about the

1842
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: schedule coming out, there's no listen. They're gonna have a

1843
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:27,320
Speaker 1: primetime television show on the NFL network to unveil the

1844
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: schedule for the NFL. It's going to be announced all

1845
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: the way across all platforms at eight pm on Wednesday night.

1846
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: Just think about this. The NFL network is gonna have

1847
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: a lot of production value in this show. They need

1848
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 1: to know the schedule hours and if not days before

1849
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 1: it actually comes, before it comes public. Yea, So you

1850
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: can look forward to trickle out and start getting rumors

1851
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: about this and that and which games are here and

1852
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 1: which games are there, and specifics about about the schedule

1853
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:02,000
Speaker 1: will come out during the day Wednesday at least, if

1854
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 1: not tomorrow. So and I just read a tweet from

1855
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 1: Tony Dungee. He's finding out tomorrow. He says, he's finding

1856
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: out tomorrow what the opening Tampa Bay game is on

1857
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: that Thursday night, because it is an NBC game. It's

1858
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,720
Speaker 1: an NBC game look for So there's that. So it

1859
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 1: is gonna trickle out a little by little, but the

1860
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: show and the public announcement's not going to be till

1861
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: Wednesday night. But as you might imagine, if they're going

1862
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: to put a TV show on about it, they're gonna

1863
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: need to rehearse, and to rehearse, you need to know

1864
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I think it has been announced

1865
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 1: that the kickoff game will be announced earlier in the

1866
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: day on Wednesday, believe, Wednesday morning. The kickoff game, which

1867
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 1: is usually the Thursday before the main slate of games

1868
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 1: in week one on Sunday is played, So we will

1869
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 1: know that by the time we're on the air Wednesday afternoon,

1870
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,719
Speaker 1: and then Maddie and myself will have the Bills streaming

1871
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: special on all of our social platforms leading up to

1872
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: the schedule. Room and I alluded to the Tony Dungee

1873
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 1: tweet he mentioned it was just an hour ago that

1874
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Tomorrow morning, he's gonna find out what's going to happen.

1875
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 1: And I don't know that it was a wasn't a

1876
01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:08,080
Speaker 1: mistake that he's gonna find out on Wednesday, or that

1877
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: he or that he is going to find out tomorrow,

1878
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: and he won't be able to tell anybody because he'll

1879
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 1: be under strict orders not to you know what I mean.

1880
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: So he has tweeted out that he's going to find

1881
01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: out tomorrow, but I don't know if he actually means tomorrow,

1882
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 1: or if you know, if they actually are going to

1883
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 1: find out in order to put their show together for

1884
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: Wednesday night or or what that means. Yeah, and Peter King,

1885
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,879
Speaker 1: you know, who also works for NBC and does Football

1886
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: Morning in America, was poking around as well, and it's

1887
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 1: his opinion that the league wants to come out of

1888
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: the gate strong with a premier matchup in that kickoff game.

1889
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: And it's his contention that the Bucks, who are a

1890
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: lock to be in the game, is the defending Super

1891
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 1: Bowl champs, especially since their team is largely the same

1892
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 1: as it was last year in terms of their roster makeup,

1893
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:56,680
Speaker 1: is going to play in his belief, the Cowboys are

1894
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: the Bills. So the Bills are in firm contention to

1895
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 1: be in that kickoff game. And Steve and I has

1896
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 1: sit on this show even if the Bills are not

1897
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 1: the team playing the Bucks on that Thursday night kickoff

1898
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 1: opener I think it could almost bet dollars to donuts

1899
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 1: They're going to be in some primetime position in Week one,

1900
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: whether it's Sunday night, whether it's the Doublehead or Monday Night,

1901
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,040
Speaker 1: They'll be in one of those spots as one of

1902
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: the teams, because you could, as Steve has said time

1903
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 1: and again, they were a juggernaut last year or second

1904
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 1: in the league in scoring, scored over five hundred points

1905
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 1: a game, and they were labeling people at the end

1906
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: of the season. That is an attractive commodity for any network.

1907
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 1: And they've got the runner up MVP. So I'm thinking

1908
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 1: the marquee matchup if you look at the Bills on

1909
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 1: the road, if the Bills do indeed open on the road,

1910
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 1: it could be Tampa Bay, Dallas on Thursday night, Buffalo

1911
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: in Kansas City on Sunday night, Green Bay somewhere else

1912
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 1: you know on Monday night, Yeah, or New Orleans or

1913
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 1: some other great marquee matchup. It could be. It could

1914
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: be you know, New England, that Tampa Bay could be

1915
01:39:59,280 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. Um, there's a lot of matchups

1916
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 1: that are intriguing and the league might want to get

1917
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, started off with a bang. The one thing

1918
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 1: they don't want matchups. The one thing they don't want

1919
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:12,880
Speaker 1: is a matchup that could be over by halftime. That's

1920
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: exactly what they don't want. That's exactly so they want

1921
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: teams that can put up points and you know, stay

1922
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: in games. You know, down ten points, the game's not

1923
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,759
Speaker 1: over because this team can explode on you for seventeen unanswered,

1924
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, that's exactly that's who

1925
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: they're looking for. And Dallas fits that bill, provided Prescott's

1926
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 1: good to go, and Buffalo fits that bill. And I

1927
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 1: think they you know, you try and outthink yourself a

1928
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 1: little bit. You're looking at teams that struggle defensively but

1929
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 1: have great offenses. Certainly Buffalo's defense didn't struggle, but it

1930
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,680
Speaker 1: was middle of the road last year in a lot

1931
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 1: of categories. Tampa Bay had a pretty good defense, particularly

1932
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: the one that showed up in the Super Bowl. But

1933
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo can score points. So a lot has been said

1934
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: about it. It seems obvious. I still don't think you

1935
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 1: can unseat the Cowboys as a really attractive matchup to

1936
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 1: start the season with Dak Prescott making his return to

1937
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 1: the field. On all of that, really, it's we'll wait

1938
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:15,439
Speaker 1: till Wednesday to find out. But like I said, you'll

1939
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:18,759
Speaker 1: get inkling, and social media will start to spring leaks,

1940
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 1: and you'll get to some ideas about how many primetime

1941
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:24,519
Speaker 1: games and early in the season and all that kind

1942
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: of stuff. The leagues good about tamping down on that stuff. Yeah,

1943
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:31,840
Speaker 1: so we'll see just what leaks, per se. I don't

1944
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be a whole lot out there.

1945
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: If you look back at the embedded series that the

1946
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 1: Bills put together and other teams have as well. The

1947
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 1: owners get the heads up in the middle of the afternoon. Yes,

1948
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,480
Speaker 1: they'll say, okay, here's what happened. They'll call the GMS

1949
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: and the presidents and they'll say here's here's what our

1950
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 1: schedule looks like, and they'll just read it off to

1951
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 1: them over the home. That's what happened with Kim Pagoula

1952
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean last year was on embedded So that's

1953
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,000
Speaker 1: pretty interesting to me. The league gives it to the owners,

1954
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 1: says here's what we're thinking, and of course you know this.

1955
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 1: On Thursday, we're gonna come in here and say, I

1956
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 1: can't believe we're gonna go six weeks without a home

1957
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 1: game that one. What do they know that I'm saying,

1958
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen. And we got three week, we

1959
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 1: get a bye week, and then we get two. There's

1960
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 1: gonna be all kinds of complaints and like it's so

1961
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: in Kansas City on short rest again, it's so unfair,

1962
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You'll get all that and we'll be

1963
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 1: we'll be the lead voices in that choir with you know,

1964
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,519
Speaker 1: all right, so we'll see break time for us Steve

1965
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: and I to close things up when we come back

1966
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 1: here on one. Bill's Live presented by Collid of Health.

1967
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. What have we learned? Brought to

1968
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of

1969
01:42:57,439 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: your Buffalo Bills. Shield Podia, a friend of the show,

1970
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:05,559
Speaker 1: writer for The Athletic NFL writer, put together his post

1971
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 1: draft power ranking. Steve, want you want to guess where

1972
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:15,000
Speaker 1: the Bills checked in? Top four? They did third. He

1973
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: says it doesn't take much imagination to look at their

1974
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:19,160
Speaker 1: roster and think it could be better than the group

1975
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: that went thirteen and three last year before losing in

1976
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 1: the AFC title game. Bill's offense ranked fifth in efficiency

1977
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,120
Speaker 1: and They returned ten of eleven players who logged at

1978
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:30,679
Speaker 1: least five hundred snaps, while also adding reliable veteran wide

1979
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 1: receiver Emmanuel Sanders. Defensively, getting Milano back healthy should make

1980
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: a difference. Defensive tackle star Letulala returns from opt out.

1981
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 1: Bills could add a corner, but overall, GM Brandon Bean's

1982
01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: done a terrific job. It's a Super Bowl caliber roster

1983
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:48,480
Speaker 1: that returns head coach Sean McDermott and both of their coordinators,

1984
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: Brian Dable and Leslie Frazier. They are only two teams

1985
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 1: ranked ahead of them, are the Super Bowl participants. Yeah,

1986
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: the Arrows still pointing up on Buffalo and they have

1987
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:05,719
Speaker 1: not They have not taken a step backwards talent wise

1988
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,559
Speaker 1: on their roster, not at all sacrifice anything really when

1989
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 1: you think about it, anything significant. I mean John Brown

1990
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Brown what they were Remember they were eight no without

1991
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 1: John Brown in the lineup. Yeah, and swapped out a

1992
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: guy that is probably every bit the route runner than

1993
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 1: he is. Yeah, it's probably a better route runner, though

1994
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 1: not as fast, but certainly a playmaker guy that fits in.

1995
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be really interesting this roster. The

1996
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 1: arrow is still pointing up on the Bills. I don't

1997
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 1: think they've reached their ceiling now. Certainly they could do

1998
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:35,240
Speaker 1: that early this season or whatever, even the off whatever,

1999
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: But man oh man, they seem to be in a

2000
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:41,679
Speaker 1: spot where they have yet to reach their potential, starting

2001
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: with their quarterback, who is in line to make another

2002
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 1: run at it. It's it's pretty fun, fun team to

2003
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,759
Speaker 1: be a part of. Her. Yeah, And at first glance,

2004
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,719
Speaker 1: I was looking at the schedule, going, Oh, they gotta

2005
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 1: play Kansas City. Oh, they gotta play Tampa. Oh they

2006
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 1: gotta play you know these guys. They gotta play the Titans. Again.

2007
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: It's always tough game with the Titans. But if you

2008
01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 1: look at it in totality, I don't I believe it's

2009
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: the twenty third schedule in terms of strength of schedule.

2010
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna get Jacksonville in a rebuilding mode, Jets in

2011
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:17,840
Speaker 1: a rebuilding mode twice. You know, Saints without Drew Brees,

2012
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 1: Saints without Drew Brees. So Jacksonville, Carolina is still getting

2013
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:26,719
Speaker 1: their ducks in. Washington's still kind of getting things fixed

2014
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:31,719
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Atlanta still has defensive problems to figure out. Houston.

2015
01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:35,320
Speaker 1: It's really indee Kansas City. Yeah, Houston's on the schedule,

2016
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 1: Indie Kansas City, Pittsburgh and Tampa probably their four toughest

2017
01:45:40,240 --> 01:45:42,320
Speaker 1: games and then released on the surface, and then New

2018
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 1: England's in that mix. Um, there's the middle of the

2019
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 1: road to lower tier teams here on the schedule where

2020
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 1: you could easily see a way of getting back to

2021
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen wins. Yes, particularly with seventeen games on the schedule,

2022
01:45:55,360 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: or the seventeenth game being that Washington Club. Yeah, like

2023
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 1: I said, the air was pointing up. They've not only

2024
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: got abuse, buckle down and get the rookies inherent start

2025
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,640
Speaker 1: making their team. Ben Voland from the Boston Globe on

2026
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:11,400
Speaker 1: our show tomorrow. We will see you there at noon,

2027
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. It's one Bill's Lit.