WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Special Team 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:08.920 Boys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick Shot screaming live 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:13.120 on Dallas Cowboys dot com and the official Dallas Cowboys 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:18.560 at now. Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:24.600 And here it is. It's high noon on a Tuesday, 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.840 Thanksgiving week at the Star in Frisco, and we are 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:33.320 inside the SWBC podcast studio, Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:42.120 the star of the show, Mickey Spagnola. There. That's because 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.519 we got an audience, right, that's what they're here for, right, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:54.400 We've got a tour, some mix shots. Yeah, there's a 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:59.320 cowboy fan and a cowboy cap and jersey fist bumping 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:03.920 when he heard just make sure no one attacks me 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:06.200 from behind. I didn't know your family was in town. 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:13.040 They're all my family. They are the ones that listened 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:15.600 to us, by the way, Yeah, that's it. That's just 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.800 our family. You'd be surprised. I was guy that was 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.640 at some event and a guy came up, the black 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.120 dude too. He came like, hey, man, I listen to 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.080 you guys out time, like really like man, I just 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:31.479 wondered if he had a job. I wasn't sure. So this, 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:36.560 uh was it Saturday? Night. Um, we were in a 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:42.800 little pub downtown Minneapolis, and um, we were standing at 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:47.200 the bar waiting for a drink, and two guys come 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:51.080 up to me and goes, hey, are you can we 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:55.160 take a picture. It's like, oh, yeah, absolutely. They were 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:58.800 Cowboy fans making a road trip to Minneapolis too. You 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.160 go watch the game. So and they said, damn, Brian, 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:09.440 I thought you'd be Yeah. Right, that doesn't happen. Size 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.960 is a little bit different. Right, Well, here we are. 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.680 We are just over forty eight hours, fifty one hours 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.040 away from kickoff. All of a sudden, the New York 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.640 Football Giants will be here before you know it, and 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:28.079 it'll be Thanksgiving afternoon at three thirty. Cowboys and Giants, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.799 a battle for second place in the NFC East, two 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.000 teams that are seven and three coming in. Boy, you know, 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.840 when you look at this game, there's a huge It 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:41.360 seems like there's a huge difference between eight and three 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.320 and seven and four if you win, right, yeah, Well, 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:47.760 especially when you have a team in your division right 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.760 probably got the best record in football, and the next 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.040 best record in football. You're tied with that team in 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.959 the division, although you've got a game in hand. So 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:02.040 if you beat the Giants, not only do you have 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:06.640 a better record one loss, but you also have the sweep. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:10.240 So it's almost like a two game lead against the Giants, 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:14.880 and then you're also looking at Indianapolis, Houston and Jacksonville 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.200 the next three weeks. Absolutely, now that all sounds good 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.160 as well, but I can still smell the breath of 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:28.639 the Commanders down our backs. Well, they're they're coming. And 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.400 you know when you have a coach like that, you know, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.360 Rivera is one of those guys. The team loves to 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.240 play for him, and you can see it on the field. 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.280 So when everybody else was giving up on them and 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.560 they at the bottom of the division, okay, they're the 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.160 NFC East like we know it, and then next thing 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.840 you know, they only have five losses and they are 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.920 on our butts. I like it though. I like the competition. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.960 I like the pressure. I like the fact that we 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.720 came through under pressure this last game. And I gotta 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.880 say one more time. I know we don't we're done 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.760 with the Packers, But when I see a brother kick 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:09.200 a sixty yarder twice, it gives me pause on my 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:13.200 decision not to kick a field gold in that game 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:17.960 against the Packers. It still gives me pause. I think 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:22.479 we still based on those two sixty yarders and its 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.120 history of hitting sixty yarders. I know when all that 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:34.360 crap it was it was forty degrees warmer, How long 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:38.840 would that that field going to be? Man, that's easy 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:44.400 for him, That's easy. All you had to do is 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.120 look at the kickoffs that direct and then you know 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.840 what what Well, I'm really disappointed in him, Bill and 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:55.320 me or you. He said, he said, if they were 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.080 to score, then you know, everybody's gonna come down score 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.760 anyway on your defense. He would have your defense though, 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.560 this is this is the Cowboys defense here. What did 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.880 they do in overtime? Who the Packers? Now the question 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.520 would have been question field goal? What would they do 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:17.480 where they marched down and kidd goal? They would have 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.039 scored a touch. You don't know that they set it 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:21.880 up in the middle of the field. The kids. When 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.880 you make a field from twenty eight yards, the future changes. 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.640 Now there's the future that when you make the field goal, 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.520 it's different from if you just kicked it off to 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:35.520 him in overtime and they drove down and and different, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.479 and had you made the field goal and kicked off 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.599 in that direction, they would have ended up with the 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:45.000 ball at the thirty five. But it's a different one. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.359 Why didn't you stop him when you have to? When 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.680 when they got the ball have been a totally different 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.320 So you're telling me, see this, this is where you get, 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:00.680 you get these problems of of of this. Careful now, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.800 the revisionist history that we talk about, Oh, well, it's 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:07.560 gonna happen the same way. No, mother, what precedes evidence? 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.960 Did you see that it wouldn't have happened that way? History? 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.280 There are games where they've actually stopped someone. There are 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:18.920 games when Aaron Rodgers has actually been stopped, and there 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.920 are moments when has happened. They didn't do a lot 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.120 of stop it in that second half, and that doesn't 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:25.240 mean that they wouldn't have done it at that moment. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.599 Well there's a different moment. Well, your assumption is he 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.159 would make the field goal. Yes, right, that would be 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:35.360 and that's the worst part. What he making sixty yards? No, 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.400 it's not sixty yards, it's indoors. Which, by the way, 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.920 since you brought this up, got an opportunity to talk tomorrow, Yes, 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.480 thank you. No one's talked to him. So my question was, 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:53.359 when you were getting ready to approach to kick the ball, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.960 did you hear a whistleblow? And he goes, no, no, 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.080 he goes, I didn't hear anything. I said, did you 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:05.279 see anything? Because I saw the referee behind the play, 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.920 I saw the back judge, and he said, the two 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.600 guys under the goal post that were judging if it 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.400 was good or not, they said it was good. They 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:19.480 didn't wave it up. So somebody on the sideline must 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:23.120 have got a call down from either the replay guy 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:28.040 or the NFL overlooking things. And that's great sky judge, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:32.520 but over selective sky judge. It's over. Though they can 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.760 call all they want. It's over. I know you can't 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:36.680 go back and change it, but they but they did. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.360 That's crazy. I wonder what would have happened if he 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:46.240 missed it. Would they have called down? They badead. I'm 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:50.320 just saying, that's crazy. I'm sorry that that was. That's 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:53.200 There have been a few moments in this season and 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:58.120 past seasons where we had huge screw ups on the 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:02.280 referees point yeah, and no one said, uh what moments passed? 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.840 I got to move on, we run another play boom 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.640 mess it? So how I mean to me, it's like 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.360 a Prestons has been set. He said, that means that 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.040 you can go back at any time and change something. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:18.120 So I asked him, I said, so they after they 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:21.960 waved it off, you know what was your thoughts and 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:26.200 he goes, well, he goes, I was actually gained confidence 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.600 that I had made it. Yes, and he goes, and 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.400 I didn't feel like I hit it good. Um, And 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.840 I said, but there was a long delay for you 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.600 to think about it. He goes, Now, it actually allowed 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:43.640 me because I initially was pissed that that happened, and 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:48.240 he goes the long delay helped me calm down because 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:53.760 if you remember, not only did they review it for 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.760 I don't know how long, right, it seemed like five minutes, 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:05.520 but then um, Minnesota, Oh, the head coach O'Connell. O'Connell, 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.280 he started talking with the head referee like he didn't 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.120 call a time out, but he was acting like it 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:17.439 was a legal icing, right because he kept needing explanations 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.959 and this and that, and I go, he's just stalling 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.400 to ice him, right, and he goes, No, it actually 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.320 helped me calm down because I was really mad. And 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.640 I said, and the second kick he goes, oh, I 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.280 hit it. I said, well, I don't know if you 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:36.160 saw where it landed, but it landed five yards behind 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:40.040 where the first one landed, and it was dead solid, 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:44.120 perfect down the middle. So yeah, and so we had 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:48.040 a really good conversation about sixty yarders opposed to fifty 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.520 forty five, and he goes, in my mind, I want 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.400 to kick him all the same. He goes, Now, if 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.680 it's past sixty, then it's a little bit different because 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:01.000 you're gonna have to drive right. Gotta you gotta let 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.880 it go, he said, But from sixty I felt good 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.319 enough in my normal routine and swing that I can 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:11.079 get it there from there. So in perfect conditions, in 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:19.600 perfect conditions, Yeah, not when it's twenty twenty below and 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:22.280 my kickers standing on the sideline with his foot in 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:26.040 front of the heat. Yeah. Right, So he was trying 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.040 to make sure he could feel the ball off his foot. Right. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.720 You know, after a forty to three win, you notice 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.640 the cap that I'm wearing. You and Jared, did you 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.160 get that from Terry? I did not know. Tell us 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:42.400 the story. This is a team that could compete for 0:10:42.440 --> 0:10:45.040 the Super Bowl, right, I don't have the Super Bowl 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:50.200 cap On, No, he couldn't. He was like, definitely right, 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:54.160 And then uh, I thought it was funny. McCarthy then 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.880 on Monday when he did his press conference, said well, uh, 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:03.760 just a little while talking to GM Jerry, he was 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:07.320 concentrated on the Giants, right, And he goes, and then 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.520 there's Owner Jerry, who is gonna be positive and wants 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.040 to look forward. So they asked Jerry about it today. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:20.600 They played it for him and he basically said, well, yeah, absolutely. 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:25.720 He goes, but think about this, so GM Jerry, you 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:31.160 know we're it's the Giants, they're the next opponent, the 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:36.160 division opponent. Uh, somebody that you know we've already beaten once, 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:40.600 we need to beat twice. He goes, now, but Owner Jerry, 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.800 he can think past Thursday. He can think to Odell 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:49.080 Beckham and and you know they've got that meeting. I 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.400 guess company he won't. They wouldn't say when it was 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.480 going to be. And he goes in there and he said, 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.760 and that's and and and he said that's what the 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.920 owner should be doing, because the owner has to write 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:04.080 the check. And then he went into this long explanation 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.880 about you know, things you have to consider. He goes, 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.600 if I have a chance to improve my team, I 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.720 should do that as the owner. And he goes, and 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.840 think about this. The owner doesn't have to talk to 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:24.280 the GM to see what the player's ability looks like. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.600 We're the same person. And so I think it was 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.240 a really great explanation. And he said, so here's and 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.720 they were going, well you, but it doesn't seem like 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.960 you want to pay guys from outside. You rather pay 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.080 your own guys. He goes, well, here's what it comes 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:43.760 down to. If I pay this money on one guy, 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.000 if I can use that same amount on two or 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.280 three guys, Now I got to make a decision, right, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.880 is he worth one guy? Or can I use that 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.040 money for three guys? And he's not just talking about 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.719 this year, he's talking about down the road, because, as 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.680 Bill has been pointing out, we got a lot of 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:07.839 guys here a new contracts. Yeah, guys that you got. Yes. 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:12.640 Now Pollard's in the because we keep talking about digs 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:18.439 um lamb. Well, now Pollard's in the conversation too. Right, 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.400 You're not gonna sit there and go we're just letting 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.400 this guy go. Parsons and Prescott aren't far off, no, 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.079 and you're right, and so now how much can you 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.560 spend on citing a thirty year old Odell Beckham Junior, 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.720 and I thought Stephen gave a good explanation of the 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.679 things you have to decide before you could do this. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:42.160 He first said health like we got to see how 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:46.920 healthy is and Windsy ready to play? He said, Secondly, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.280 vision like, how do we see him fitting in to 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:55.200 the offense? And then he said as usual. Third is business, 0:13:55.320 --> 0:14:02.760 meaning money, and he said the biggest thing, uh oh. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.800 Then he went on to say, so, yeah, that's that's 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.600 on our mind. He goes, but the biggest disappointment was 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.200 the loss to Green Bay. So, uh what did they 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.480 expect him to say? Yeah, you know what I mean, 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.480 that's not being Jerry, that's just being Yeah, that's just 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.480 being part of the staff. And he didn't want to 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.320 say much because he knows it's a negotiation. But I 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.720 mean in regards to us going being Super Bowl with 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:30.400 oh yeah, yeah, yeah bowl. Well, and as Mike as 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:32.760 McCarthy pointed out, he goes, well, that goes back to 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:35.000 the goal at the beginning of the sex, right, So 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.320 why would you you know they act like it's such 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.680 a that's Jerry, Yeah, probably up the Cowboys. That's really 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.480 And that was everybody's story last night on the news. 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.280 And I don't know if and that's good. Yes, everybody 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.920 did it, but I heard it for most parts. Jerry 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.880 said the Cowboys are going No, he didn't say it. 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.760 He just said they look in that game super Bowl 0:14:56.440 --> 0:15:00.800 or a Super Bowl contest. Yes, I mean what who's 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.600 in the race right now would not say that? Yeah, yeah, 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.080 so I think you know, they'd love to just blow 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.360 it up with Jerry. But to me, that's exactly what 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:12.240 he should have said. Okay, up next year on Mike Shots, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.200 Who's gonna be the Cowboys? Competition to get to the 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:20.560 Super Bowl Vick Shots continues in a moment. The Medal 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.640 of Honor is our country's highest military award for valor 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.200 in combat. 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Evidently McCarthy said 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:33.280 either on Saturday or Sunday he strained the hamstring again. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.200 Because their intention was he was going to be able 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:40.280 to play. He I think it was sad. It might 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:44.359 have been Saturday after Saturday's practice. Uh. It's like because 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.600 he was getting snaps, uh, defensively during the week, so 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:50.679 they thought he was good to go, but he didn't, 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:57.440 and so Damon Clark ended up um getting a bunch 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:03.120 of snaps right up him. Let's see here, Clark had 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:07.040 forty three snaps and six wild special teams and they 0:19:07.040 --> 0:19:11.080 didn't have They didn't have that many plays, did they. 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.560 I mean that's the majority. They had forty three at least. Yeah, 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:19.960 but I mean that many means all that Betty fifty seven. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:25.960 So he had forty three or fifty seven snaps sown. No, 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:29.200 I think I saw maybe in there once on third down. 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:34.720 The majority of it was either Parsons and vander Esh. 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.959 If Parson was on the line, vander Esh was one linebacker, 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:44.320 and then however you want to classify curse. And then 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.160 there were other times. There were times when they didn't 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.520 have a linebacker, but a lot of times it was 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.920 fourth in our third and twenty three or something. I 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:56.320 thought that I thought we could come out before this 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.159 game and we were worried about our woes. It's for 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:01.080 a stopping the run, and I thought we could put 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.560 in an extra defensive linement. Oh would try something like that. 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.920 I think the Bears of the Lions do it every 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.440 once and then, well, you know there were times when 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:16.600 they would put four down linemen and Parsons on the 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:20.320 line of scrimmage to make five on third down to 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:25.240 try to confuse the pass rush. Um. Yeah, Mike McCarthy 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:30.679 was very complimentary of to Marcus Lawrence today too. But 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.480 it's about his ability to not only be a special 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:38.440 pass rusher, but the way he plays. Yeah, we talked 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.480 about that last Yeah, absolutely so the h and as 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:46.400 a matter of fact, they've got Parsons listed as knee ankle. Uh. 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:49.280 They just felt like, you know, he could be limited 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:51.719 the rest of the week, but they feel like he 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.280 can play so and plus you see how well the 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.719 backups did when he was out right. I mean there 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.960 was a lot of positive plays even when he was 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:02.200 on the sideline. So that helps us. And by the way, 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.760 three of the guys that would have missed yesterday, it 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:11.080 was this illness that keeps going around. So Fowler Hankins 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.240 and Kelvin Joseph who got sick during the game because 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:18.000 they started him off at left corner, right and they 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:23.399 immediately threw over there too, and then he got sick. Yeah. Probably, 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.880 and then Anthony Brown came in and played the rest 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:33.000 of the Yeah, because you know last so last week 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.840 Anger had the illness and he was able to come 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:41.600 in and punt um Joseph gets the sad. Yeah. Right. 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:48.040 It doesn't say I don't see any illness, must not 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:54.240 go around in uh. In East Rutherford, the dnps for 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:58.000 the Giants are all of injury, so and they got 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.959 a bunch of them. They're often of line. Um. I 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.159 don't have their starting lineup here? Do you happen to 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:08.880 have it? There's they've They've lost Evan Neil a couple 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.240 of weeks ago. They're a right tackle the Bookie first 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.600 round draft. He's being listed as limited. He's missed the 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:19.160 last couple of games. Uh Josh zoo Zudu. He has 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:24.520 been filling in as at guard. Okay Feliciano, he's a center. 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:30.960 Is he starter? He has started some? Yes, he has started, 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:34.280 and but this last game he get hurt and he 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:36.639 only played fifty five snaps, almost played the whole game. 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.560 He's got a neck injury and didn't would not have practiced. 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:49.439 Tyree Phillips, offensive lineman, neck, Yes, that's another starter. Okay, 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:53.040 so he would not have practiced. And then they're starting 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:57.520 corner a Dory Jackson. I believe he's the yeah, mcl yeah, 0:22:57.600 --> 0:23:00.520 so they and they already I think they lost some 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:04.560 guys and they lost cabo of Xavier McKinney, the safety 0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:07.399 d a couple of weeks ago his ATV accident, and 0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:14.360 Wandel Robinson a cl yeah, and he had ten catches 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:17.760 last week. Yeah, so they've got some injury problems too, 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:21.000 and it's a short week. You know, we're so lucky 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:24.719 to where blessed to where we Uh, our depth is 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:28.840 really pretty good. You could say, let's say Michael Parsons 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:32.280 goes down, got for bid, and uh you look at 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:36.000 the backups. I mean, we've got some very capable gentleman 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.080 that can not play as well as Parsons, but they 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:42.680 can fit in with the scheme very well to where 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:44.600 you can get by for a little bit. You could 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.040 get by to think about getting by, you got doing 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:49.840 some armstrong. He's playing like a madman. And you've got 0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.920 of course d Law playing his butt off. Vanders is improving. 0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:57.720 And so you know, you you look at there, you 0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.520 look at the Giants injury list, than if we had 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.400 an injury list like that, it would be devastating. But 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:07.439 I think we would have nice good players. Yeah up. 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:13.640 And if you know, you lose Parsons linebacker and bars out, well, 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.160 now you got Clark play. It might open the door 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.240 for some guy like Luke Gifford to get on the field. 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:22.600 And and and we forget about Fowler. I always forget 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.960 about Fowler. They've got him playing defensive end. He is 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.520 playing defensive end as a starter, no, as a rotation. 0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:34.280 You think he could step back. I don't think he hasn't. 0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:38.440 He's always he's been just a defensive end. Yeah. So. 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:44.720 And also when the question came up about um Tyler 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:50.719 Smith moving to guard in Peter's play left tackle, Jerry 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:54.639 basically answered the question, when Tyrone Smith returns, he's the 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:58.000 left tackle and Tyler smiths and they're get then they're 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:01.199 trying to give him some snaps in the and also 0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:06.400 to if need be, if uh they need that other 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:10.440 guard spot, Tyler Smith can play there and give Peter 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.320 some snap at left tackle. They've decided he's a left tackle, 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:19.120 so he's not a guard. Tyler Smith is definitely a guard. Uh, 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:21.720 he could play guard. Yeah, he's gonna play guard. He would. 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:25.040 He's gonna when Tyron comes back, he will slide into guard. Okay, 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:28.919 so that makes him. Yeah, so they did draft a 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.080 guard first. Mind, there you go, I'll try. I knew 0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:40.439 that's where yea, by us. He's a guard by necessity, 0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:43.919 that's why he's playing. And you know what, he was 0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:47.600 pretty darn good in the run game uh this past week. Yeah, 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:52.200 I mean a lot of that stuff was going left. Um, so, uh, 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.040 they had something going there and then that you know, 0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.639