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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Daniel Jeremiah from Move the Sticks and

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Speaker 1: I'm Beckie Brooks. And this is to a tongue lois

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Speaker 1: three sixty clean pocket for two out of the end

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Speaker 1: zone touchdown. You would look that way, nothing was open.

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Speaker 1: He takes off again and what's this? All the way

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Speaker 1: to the house, everybody. Welcome to the Move the six

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Speaker 1: three six episode. Here buck the final one in our

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Speaker 1: series for the draft, and we saved I think the

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Speaker 1: most interesting story for last. As we do a deep

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to to Uh. We talked to

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Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer, and then we have two of sitting down

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Speaker 1: with our own Steve Weiss. Yeah, we've got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of great guests. You're gonna enjoy those conversations, and we'll

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Speaker 1: But before we get to these interviews, just real quick

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Speaker 1: for those that don't know, aren't familiar, your background, your

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Speaker 1: one of the finest young people that I've come across. Um.

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Speaker 1: Been a counselor with a Leader eleven and the Opening

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Speaker 1: And what I will say about two is his humility

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Speaker 1: And I think the thing that is probably more impressive

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Speaker 1: When you think about a franchise quarterback and all the

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Speaker 1: really don't see young people get it at that age. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Think about all I try to make up for a fire,

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Speaker 1: So the ends touch down. What keeps you grounded when

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Speaker 1: the night before that game. Uh, what's going through your mind?

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Speaker 1: the high school level, and how was he as a leader?

429
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: He had this or a about him that, um, you know,

430
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 1: he could anyone would just like gravitate to him, you know,

431
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: just by the way he you know, um walks, the

432
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: way he handles himself, you know, the way he acknowledges

433
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: everyone around him, and um, you know his um he

434
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: had these prayers after practice. Yeah, that gosh, it's totally amazing.

435
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 1: Gave me chicken skin. I look forward every day to

436
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: after practice and too I would say the prayer and

437
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: bless our team, and you know the words that come

438
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: out of his mouth. Um, you know, it's just something

439
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: that you just don't throw together, you know. Um, you

440
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: know you know this this gentleman has been like you know,

441
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: reading the Bible and as a man of God, and

442
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 1: just the words and how he uh makes the words

443
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: uh equivalent to what we're going through. You know. It's

444
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: like you know, and whatever we're struggling or you know,

445
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: a day that we you know, the offense, bit of defense,

446
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: a bit of the offense, and he had said a

447
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: prayer for the offense that we don't get better tomorrow,

448
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: and just you know, I mean every day it was

449
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: something new and from the new scriptures, and uh gosh,

450
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: I thought it was amazing. I mean, he's like, we'reverend

451
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 1: to you know, I love that coach. Is there a story?

452
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: Is a story in a particular game, uh during high

453
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: school where you know there was a moment where TWA

454
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: did something on the field, whether there's bringing you guys

455
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: come from behind, or a big play in a big

456
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: moment where you thought, Okay, now this this guy might

457
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: have it at that time. Well, you know, there's a

458
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: lot of moments, you know. You know he uh you know,

459
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: uh st John Bostil game was was one where you know,

460
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 1: we kind of went down early. He came in and

461
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: as a sophomore and he just kind of just like

462
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: lit it up. You know. I think he was against um,

463
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,880
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, you know, and I think from that point on, um,

464
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, I think he was you know, our guy.

465
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: He was competing with them all state quarterback from the

466
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: year before. I mean kind of like Jalen Hurt's kind

467
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: of story, you know, but it happened at our school

468
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: kind of deal and um, but yeah, I just kind

469
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: of took over and ran with it. And just the

470
00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: way he able to you know, make things happen. You know,

471
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: some of the throws that he makes. You know, it's

472
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: like you never think anyone could fit a throw in there,

473
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: but he makes it. You know, it's super accurate. Guys,

474
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: guy that tight coverages and you know, um, it's just

475
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: you know, his his competitive nature. You know that you know,

476
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: he can build it out of a lot of you know,

477
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: thirty fifteen situations with his legs and how he makes

478
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: things happen and how he sticks his foot in the

479
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: ground and you know, how he's able to finish. You know,

480
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: some guys can't finish, but he's one of those guys

481
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: that just knew how to finish. So uh, you know,

482
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 1: it's a real tribute to him and his conditioning and

483
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: the way he prepares himself. Um, you know for each game.

484
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: The coach I've been told a lot about to us.

485
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: You know, obviously a very close knit family, but particularly

486
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: with his father that they have a kind of a

487
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: unique relationship. There can you can you share with us

488
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of what that relationship is like between

489
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: those two families. You know, to us like I guess

490
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: there's odd and then read underneath God his mom, you know,

491
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: and then there's everybody else, Dad and everybody else. You know,

492
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,719
Speaker 1: he treated mom like she was a god. You know,

493
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: no matter wherever he met her in public, he always

494
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 1: give her a hugging kiss there. And you know, I'm

495
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: not afraid to show his love for his mom. His

496
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: dad is kind of like my dad, you know. You

497
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: you know where we grew up. Um, you know, you

498
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: did everything you could to um not disappoint your dad.

499
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: And I thought his dad was a tremendous motivating factor

500
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: and you know, to his success here because you know,

501
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: he never ever wanted to disappoint his dad. You know,

502
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: he could have a four uh touchdown game, you know,

503
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: go fifteen for sixteen, but you know on the sixteenth

504
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: past you know he had in completion. And you know

505
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: why you helped me to dad when it was in

506
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: sixteen for sixteen, you know, uh, and just tried to

507
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: kind ways to get to a better you know, and

508
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: it was like a dad coach you know kind of deal.

509
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: And because he knew. You know, there's dads that coach

510
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: up their sons and then there's dad's that coach up

511
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: their sins. But this he knows what he's talking about,

512
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,959
Speaker 1: and he knows where, you know, what's happening, and you know,

513
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: he knows how to get his son, you know, the

514
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: best possible quarterback player that you could ever be. You know,

515
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: I mean because you know, Tool had tremendous respect for

516
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: his dad. Um, he always knew when his dad was

517
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: around because too, it was just like a little bit

518
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: more serious and it wasn't the jovial kind of guy,

519
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, trying to laugh at everyone and make everyone

520
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: better around him. Kind of dear. But yeah, I mean

521
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: he'd be a little bit more serious. If he's stealing reps,

522
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to take every rep that he can.

523
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: He just wants to get better. If someone made a throw,

524
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: he's jumping in front to make a better throw and it. Um, yeah,

525
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: dad was just a tremendous motivating factor to his success,

526
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: you know today, But Buck, you can you can tell

527
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: and some of those answers again, Um, I think to

528
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: his dad drove him hard. I don't think he went

529
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: over the line, but I definitely think that you sense

530
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: the respect that he has for his father, UM, and

531
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: that's where the work ethic was really instilled in him. Yeah, Dad,

532
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: his dad grinded on. His dad demanded a lot from

533
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: him when it came to the way that he led

534
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: his performance reduction. And to A responded, and I think

535
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: what's remarkable is, um, the relationship that they share and

536
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: the relationship that Tour shares with his coaches and with

537
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: his teammates. Um, he's just a very very well grounded,

538
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: uh young person. And I think his coach ability, uh

539
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: and his respect for authority is one of the things

540
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: that coaches would really really loved as he continued to

541
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: get to know him down this process, no doubt. Uh.

542
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: Well let's keep this thing going here with somebody that

543
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: had a front row seat to many of Toa's uh

544
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: best moments and his collegiate career at the University of Alabama. KIRKERB.

545
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: Street has been the kind of the face of college

546
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: football for well over a decade. You see him on

547
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: college game Day, you see him calling the game of

548
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: the week on ESPN or ABC during the fall, calling

549
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: national championship games on a yearly basis, and uh it

550
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: was great to catch up with him to get his

551
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: opinion onto a I just be curious the first time

552
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: that that that you met him or heard about him

553
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: when you're doing Alabama. I know there's a lot of

554
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: hype with him coming in, but you had Jalen Hurts there,

555
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: What was that? What was your first memory there of

556
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: to again in our world, your world in mind, you're

557
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: used to hype, right, used to this guy. You know,

558
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: wait till you see him kind of thing. And after

559
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: twenty five years, some of them are better than the

560
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: hype and and many of them are not. So I

561
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: always just I like to see things with my own

562
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: eyes and evaluate that particular year when he came in

563
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: as a true fresh man, Jalen Hurts was doing a

564
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: good job. I mean, Jalen Hurts was moving to team

565
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: UH winning games put them in a position to get

566
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: to a playoff. If you remember that year, they played

567
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: Clemson in a semifinal and won the game. But if

568
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: you really watched the game, they want it with defense

569
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: and field position and special teams. Had Clemson penned back

570
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: with Kelly Bryant. It seems like inside their own ten

571
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: the whole game, and it was almost like the offense

572
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: that year was just just slowly losing momentum as he

573
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: went on until here they got to the National championship

574
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: and they're down to Georgia at halftime. Then of course

575
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: the move that that Nick made. But for me to

576
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: answer your question, I I go to practice when I

577
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: got you know, we get on campus, I'll go to

578
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: Friday practice, Thursday practice, and always would get around the

579
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: team and fortunate to get behind closed doors with coach.

580
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: And I've always watched the starters, but I always paid

581
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: attention a specially in a case like with TWA and

582
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: the ball never hit the ground. You know, here he

583
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: is a true freshman, and he's got some ridiculous receivers

584
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: and man when he when he came in, you could

585
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: almost just feel the receivers just like, oh, oh, here

586
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: we go, here we go, here we go. We got

587
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, because Jailen can throw it. But the accuracy

588
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: that year wasn't there. And so I'll never forget man.

589
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: The day before the game, closed practice in Atlanta at

590
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: the Dome, and I was allowed in and they did

591
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: a two minute drill at the end of practice and

592
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: the first team offense goes against the first team defense.

593
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: They kind of struggled. First team defense got him off

594
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: the field. Coach Stabans, you know, he's upset. What's the

595
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: guy in Buffalo? Brian Uh Brian, who I love. He

596
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: was the o C that year. And and Mike Locksley,

597
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: who's now that the head coach that Maryland. He was

598
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: kind of a co C as well, and good buddies

599
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: with them. And they warned me all year or about

600
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: you got to see two in the two minutes and

601
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: he goes in after hurts and it's just boom boom

602
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: boom boom boom boom boom. Ball never touched the ground.

603
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: It's a day before the game touchdown, and I happened

604
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: to my eyes, happened to connect with Locksley, and he

605
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: looked at me and he goes, see, see what I'm

606
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: saying I was. I was staying there with Josh Jacobs,

607
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: who was hurt, not not participating. He's like, man, he's

608
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: been doing that all year, and I was like, okay,

609
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: So I'm just just putting little thoughts in the back

610
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: of my mind. So when it happened, I had a

611
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: lot of information about two as opposed to just being

612
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: this hyped up freshman the thing about too, it was

613
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: just his personalities. You you probably got parents. I mean

614
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: that that's the thing that is very unique and very

615
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: different the culture of the Hawaiian spirit to live and strong.

616
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: There isn't a guy on the roster from the starter,

617
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 1: you know, running back to the last guy on the

618
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: team that's a walk on, that's just trying to help

619
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: out on scout team that if you sat down and

620
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: talked with him, would not have a story, a personal

621
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: story about ta how he's impacted them in a positive

622
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: way off the field. And that's the part to me

623
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: that's just different and rare is this guy is wired

624
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: differently and it's genuine. It's a genuine and whoever gets him,

625
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the thing that that team is all

626
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden whatever their energy was, and he won't

627
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: even try to do it. He's just gonna be himself

628
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: at a high profile position. I'm telling you, wherever he goes,

629
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: get ready for that. The intangibles and the and the

630
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: kind of that mojo to change drastically when he shows

631
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: up to camp. It's interesting. I love that story because

632
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: the first time I met him. Um the guys with

633
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: dil from company invited me up to a Lade eleven

634
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: right after. So this is right after that championship game. Now,

635
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: I mean two is the biggest story in sports during

636
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: this time. Remember, like his social media following went from

637
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: like it just exploded, right, he went crazy. So this

638
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: is right after that doing a lead eleven. So this

639
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: is all the top college quarterbacks in the country. We're

640
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: all there, uh, coming there to kind of be counselors,

641
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: and they're gonna go through a little pro day things.

642
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: So I go up there and we end up. I

643
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: bring my son, who was going into ninth grade at

644
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: the time, and we go up there and we meet

645
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: all these guys and they're all really nice. It was

646
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: Stidham and Greer and all these guys. Jalen was there. Um,

647
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: so they all and I just had them take a

648
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: picture with my son. My son loved to plays football,

649
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: loves football, so they would all take a picture with him.

650
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: So everybody take a picture and then they kind of

651
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: go on about their thing. Well to it takes a

652
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: picture with my son. I finished, Hey, to, I re

653
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: appreciate that man. He sits there and talks to my

654
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: fourteen year old son for like fifteen minutes, and it

655
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: was him asking my son questions. It wasn't like my

656
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: son peppering him with questions. And I'm like, this is

657
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: a unique ability for somebody to connect. Um and having

658
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: played the position, Kurt, just to speak to how important

659
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: that is to you. It's everything. I mean, if if

660
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: you look at the great ones, it's very rare to

661
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: find a Hall of Famer or a guy today that's

662
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: at the top of his game or he doesn't have

663
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: that that quality. Uh, to maybe is an extreme case. Um,

664
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: I love to look at people and think about it

665
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: in your life. When when he treats people that can't

666
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: help him a certain way, that tells me everything I

667
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: need to know about him, because unfortunately, we meet a

668
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: lot of people that they find out who that person is.

669
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm gonna go out of my way

670
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: now to really be nice to this guy. But a

671
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: second ago you weren't now and you are and uh,

672
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: like I said I said earlier, your story, there's thousands

673
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: of stories like this about this kid because he's just

674
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: he just being himself, just the way he is. His parents,

675
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if they got into some of the

676
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: injuries and and some of the details about that. I

677
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: went down there and did a feature with with his parents,

678
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: and uh, his mom started crying telling the story almost

679
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: like we're not worthy to have him as a son

680
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: kind of thing, because there's she had so many different stories,

681
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: but the one when he broke his hip. They went

682
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: into the into the locker room and they were scared

683
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: and what's happening in his nose and concussion and his

684
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: hip and I mean, it's just so much chaos. And

685
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: they were crying and praying over top of him, and

686
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: he was worried about them being worried about him, Like

687
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: he was more worried about them. And She's like, here

688
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: he is with a broken hip and who knows what's

689
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: going on going on with his career and with his body,

690
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: and he's worried about us. He's worried about us, you know.

691
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: And I was just like, man, he just said, I

692
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: can't stay enough good things about him, and and uh can't. Well,

693
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see he's working with Trent and that

694
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: seems to be going very very well. And I know

695
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: you follow the draft very closely. I have no idea,

696
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, if he's gonna be a top two pick,

697
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: top three pick, if you're just going by his ability

698
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: to make plays, evaluate coverage, process information, get the ball

699
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: out accurately, you know he's he's gonna be I think

700
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: a big hit Hope Buck. I know we've talked about

701
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: this before, but um, you know you heard me mention

702
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: it in that conversation about two of spending time with

703
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: my son, Um when he had no there's no reason

704
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: for him to do that. He goes out of his

705
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: way to make a positive impression and that's something that

706
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: he's done on the field as as well as off

707
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, I mean that's what he does. Um,

708
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: he's positive. We talked about some guys that add energy

709
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: to the room, but he stepped in. Uh, he's a

710
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: positive energy force and that's very very powerful, and it's

711
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: very powerful when a quarterback recognizes the influence that they

712
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: have on others, uh, teammates and those around and so

713
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: the fact that he uses it in a positive direction

714
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: speaks to his maturity more than anything else. He's an

715
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: impressive kid, and Herbie is seen a lot over the years,

716
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: going back to his playing days at Ohio State. So

717
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 1: he's been around the block. Uh, great person to chat

718
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: with and get his perspective there on to a all right,

719
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer, our buddy has been working with two of

720
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: for a long time. You mentioned going back to elad eleven. Uh.

721
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: Trent has been very close with TWA through that entire process,

722
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: and I want to get your take on that experience

723
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: after we come out of this interview. But first let's

724
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: talk with the man who's been training to as he

725
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: gets ready to embark on his NFL journey. Here's my

726
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: chat with Trent dilfor I guess first question. We've talked

727
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: about two in the past, but just the first time

728
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: that you saw him, I believe was it a camp?

729
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yeah? And chooted out, I don't remember

730
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: what year was, May of an Elite eleven period, So

731
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: before his senior year in high school, UM he went

732
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: from a leleven regional. I knew about him. I had

733
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: watched all his film. I had talked to Lane Kiffen

734
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: about him, who was recruiting him at the time, and

735
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: UM was obviously incredibly impressed with this talent UM, but

736
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: also made it very clear and there's an NFL UM

737
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: there's an Elite eleven documentary clip of this where I

738
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: kind of call him out on not being disciplined and

739
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: not really understanding the disciplines of the position. And I

740
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: think it was only that moment where he grew to

741
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: trust me because he went back for a month back

742
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: to Way and his dad, who's a fantastic quarterback coach,

743
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: really drilled some of the disciplines of the things I

744
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: was talking about. When he came back in June of

745
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: that year for what we call the Elite eleven Finals, UM,

746
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: he had changed as much as any kid I had

747
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: ever seen change from the disciplines of the position. And

748
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: and then throughout that summer when we coached them both

749
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: of the finals and the opening, you could see him um.

750
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: And this is maybe the best thing I can say

751
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: about two. He's a one rep guy. He can change

752
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: in one rep. You can ask him to do anything

753
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: you want him to be able to do, uh, and

754
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: he can change it in one rep. And just that

755
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: coach ability, that train ability, is what made me know

756
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: at the time that he wasn't just gonna have a

757
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: good college career, He's gonna have a great college career.

758
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: We've talked about quarterbacks before in the past, we talked

759
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: about that quality of that competitive gene that you have

760
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: that just kind of over my dead body, Am I

761
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: gonna lose a football game? Is there examples that you've

762
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: seen from him being around as much as you have

763
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: that speak to that competitiveness that he has. Yeah, I

764
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: mean I an go on and on um in that

765
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: format in the opening that year. Um, he what he

766
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: did in a seven on seven environment, which doesn't matter.

767
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: I get it. It's not built football, but you're gonna

768
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: get us. You get a feel for how they compete. Um,

769
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: his uniqueness as a competitor came out. I'll give you

770
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: a fun little vignette. We've been playing quarterback Olympics on Wednesdays.

771
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: What is that that? Yeah, so we do targets, different targets,

772
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: we throw from our knees. We you know, make it difficult,

773
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: but basically it's just a fun little circuit of target throwing.

774
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: Because my old buck can't move. I can't throw either,

775
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: by the way, but I definitely can't move. Um and

776
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: I went over three the first time, but I did

777
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: have him beat twice late in the Olympics, and he

778
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: just he kind of laughed at me, and just immediately

779
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: the assassin came out and he came out and beat me.

780
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: Then he beat me the first two rounds on Wednesday,

781
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: so I was oh for five, um, but then I

782
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: looked his butt in round six. My point being is

783
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: that he can't let it go, like he just wants

784
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: to play again, like he can't believe he let this

785
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: old krusty butt beating him at something, um, and he

786
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: wants to rematch. In fact, by thinking about half an

787
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: hour and ago work, he's gonna ask for a little

788
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: rematch on me. But he's a unique competitor. He again,

789
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know where I sit anymore.

790
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm biased and all the kids since he was seventeen. Obviously,

791
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: I've evaluated every quarterback in the NFL for the last

792
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: ten years, the deepest level and probably the only person

793
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: in the space that's seen them at every level live

794
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: um for the last ten years. I feel like I

795
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: have a pretty good handle on who these kids are. Um.

796
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: I've never personally seen a prospect as good as to

797
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: us all. Just leave it to that. And I think

798
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: the kid is beyond special, and I could go on

799
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: and on about how good he is. But I could

800
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: also stand those of you that roll your eyes and say, well,

801
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: he's obviously gonna say that he's his friend. I could

802
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: understand that argument to one of the things that Trent

803
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: that jumps out to me when you when you study him,

804
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: and just the word quickness. When I go through my

805
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: notes and you see quick feet, quick twitch, quick mind,

806
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: quick delivery. I don't know that you know what separates

807
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: him to me? Like I always trying to figure out

808
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: what's the guy's superpower? If your quarterback, what is the

809
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: superpower you possess? To me? I just keep coming back

810
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: to that word twitch and the quickness that he has.

811
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: So I I wrote an article for The Athletic last

812
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: year where I talked about a new metric I've been using,

813
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: which is a twitch power combination metric, because there's a

814
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: lot of guys that are twitching, but then they lack power.

815
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that are powerful, but they

816
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: lack twitch. UM two was the ultimate combination of both

817
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: for me. Um I agree with you, is that one

818
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: of the twitchiest guys I've ever worked with. One thing

819
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: you left out there's this eyes I think exactly. I

820
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: think he has Russell Wilson type twitch in his eyes

821
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: where he actually sees things before they happen. If you

822
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: watch enough film, especially anybody it's a film junk count there,

823
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: I know you can access a bunch of it. Watch

824
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: the times he throws their deep over route. That's really

825
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: what the deep over the scene and the rail shot

826
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: of the three throws. You'll see him throw through his

827
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: college career where he throws him before his eyes are

828
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: actually there, Like go in super SloMo and watch him

829
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: make the sos. And I've been able to sit in

830
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: this office and watch the film with him and ask

831
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: him what he was thinking. And a lot of it

832
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: is to feel like he he is truly a boundary

833
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: to boundary guy. He sees boundary to boundary. He takes

834
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: inventory and boundary to boundary. He he'll see something pre

835
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 1: snap go look over here, but he remembers that if

836
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: this guy moves that way, that means this guy moves

837
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: that way. So if I go to throw something, there's

838
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: the gap. Does that make sense? Um? But his eyes

839
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: are so twitchy, but he has power. Man, this is

840
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: a maserati. This isn't a civic um. He doesn't like

841
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: to throw it hard, but when I want to get

842
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: him to throw it hard, just to prove a point.

843
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: He can throw as hard as anybody. He'll throw as

844
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: far as anybody. He doesn't need his feet right. He

845
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: doesn't need it to be right for him to still

846
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: attack any part of the football field you need to

847
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: attack to. Two part question for you, Trent Um going

848
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: through and talking to these guys as they come through

849
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: every year, I've become big on recall. First of all,

850
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: I love to get your thoughts on the importance of recall.

851
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about bringing up a specific playing in

852
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: a specific game. Can they give you the call to coverage,

853
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: the read, the decision h and how is too in

854
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: that area? Super visual? So um. One thing I've learned

855
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: about great competitors. Once they've done it, they move on

856
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: and they're onto the next thing. When they're reminded of it.

857
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: Now it's like Crystal Player to them. So he did

858
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: a lot of work with Kenn Wison Hunt as we

859
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: got ready for the combine Ken's obviously one of the

860
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: great EXO guys was available. I didn't want to cheat

861
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: two of that system. I'm ten years removed in the

862
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: NFL twelve Bears. I didn't want to pretend like I

863
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: knew something about the NFL. But I didn't know, so

864
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: we brought in an expert. Um. When Ken would ask

865
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: him a question, Hey, to tell me about your favorite

866
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: touchdown pass, he had moved on, and so I reminded him, Oh, no,

867
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: tell me about about the Georgia play boom. It's like

868
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: he knew every movement of the offensive line. He can

869
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: tell you the space and of the defense. He can

870
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: tell you what he saw before, what his mind was thinking,

871
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: why he pinned that safety inside where he learned that,

872
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: where's the first time he drilled it. And he can

873
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: go as deep as you want want to go. And

874
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: I think that's where he's a unique learner. Um as

875
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: we've done more exercises with him x O wise Uh,

876
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: he's very good once he gets in, like once he

877
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: asked the wise. I think he's a guy that needs

878
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: to know all the wise behind it. And once you

879
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: know the wise, he's never gonna forget it. He's gonna

880
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: know it forever, He's gonna master it. So I I

881
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: true think true. I also think recall is very important.

882
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: I think there's different types of it too. I think

883
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that fake recall where they

884
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: can tell you a bunch of stuff because they had

885
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: their coach tell it to them, and then they're regurgitating

886
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: what their coach told them. I like the authentic, like

887
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 1: you know, I can sell exactly. I saw that guy

888
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: move in half a step right before the ball was snapped,

889
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: and I knew I had his momentum going that way.

890
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: That told me. That tells me a quarterback truly truly

891
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: got it. It's fantastic. I met. I've enjoyed your talking

892
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: on the football side of it. Now there's the there's

893
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: the recovery side of it. That's a very important aspect

894
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: of physic evaluation. I saw the video you put out.

895
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: I was shocked. I don't think I even you tweeted

896
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: the words that I was shocked at where he was

897
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: at this point in the process. But I know you're

898
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: not at doctor Trent, but just watching him, how he's

899
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: moving around. What have you seen. Well, I've had to

900
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: be clear everything with doctors, So yeah, I'm an idiot,

901
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: but I wasn't gonna do anything that jeopardized his health.

902
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: So I think there's a couple of layers to this.

903
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: Number One, this when we first sat down and huddled,

904
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: the whole theme was rocky for we're going to the Ukraine.

905
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna hear from us, and he's gonna know where

906
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: we're at, and we's know what we're doing. Because you

907
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: have to heal. And Rocky when he went to the

908
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: Ukraine to try to training to Fightrago, he had to

909
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: heal him emotionally too. A lot of his training was

910
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: the healing part of it. That's what I tried to

911
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: explain to too, is you have to heal. Your body

912
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: has to heal. It is the only thing that matters.

913
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: All we do is get to the combine and show

914
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: him a medical record that says you are healed. That's

915
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: a win. That is a win. So how he ate

916
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: how we rehabbed the two two and a half hour

917
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: sessions a day that we're boring, I mean boring that

918
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: he had to do, the sleep he had to get.

919
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: He was also going to school, he couldn't throw a football.

920
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: Then he's in my office for three and a half

921
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: hours a day talking about high level XO. I mean

922
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: it was. It was a long drawn out process. Never

923
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: did we do anything that didn't The doctors hadn't cleared

924
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: well on March what was at six team. I think

925
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: that's a Monday, I believe was the first day he

926
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: was cleared. That's the day you got that video. That's day,

927
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: that's the one of him throwing. I could he could

928
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: play in a football game tomorrow. He could play in

929
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: an NFL football game tomorrow, and I'd have full confidence

930
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: he could protect himself with his athletic ability. Um, he

931
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: would perform at a super high level from a throwing

932
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: and timing standpoint, um, and he wouldn't be at risk.

933
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: I've continued to build up the capacity every single day,

934
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean overdoing it, thinking he's gonna fatigue, and then

935
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't fatigue. Um. Yesterday, for instance, he threw fifty

936
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: ish intermediate routes, so three or five step drops, you know,

937
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: let's say under twenty yard crossing routes based acrosses, corners, speedouts,

938
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: short digs, pivots, blah blah blah blah. And then he

939
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: wanted more and I wanted this to be kind of

940
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: a mid day and not a heavy day. So then

941
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we threw about twenty

942
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: five high impact throws so post post stops, deep digs,

943
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: deep comebacks, seven step action reset in the pocket, some

944
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: escape move right through twenty five of those, and his

945
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: best rep of the day was his last throw. So

946
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: I have zero questions that he's gonna be ready to

947
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 1: not just go to an O T A and perform,

948
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: but go to an OTE. If we have them um

949
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: and perform at the highest level, that's fantastic. I'll leave

950
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: you with this last question here, Trent. You mentioned it

951
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: and all the guys you've been around, and you've seen

952
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: every really every starting quarterback the NFL is has come through,

953
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: and you had a chance to look at him. I'm

954
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: just curious from a big picture standpoint what you think.

955
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: And you can include two in this, but if you're

956
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: gonna say all these guys, you've seen them, the guys

957
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: that set themselves apart, that have had that success at

958
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: the next level, what is it that we're missing? What

959
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: is it that we don't realize there aren't taking into

960
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: account what they have that that makes them great their

961
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: eyes if I had if that question is and there's

962
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: one more layer to it, DJ, what people miss. I

963
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: don't think you missed that much, by the way, But

964
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,959
Speaker 1: where people miss is they don't they don't they can't

965
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 1: watch film and interpret what that person is seeing. That's

966
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: why I could Kurt Warner. I I had deferred to

967
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: Kurt a lot. He had some of the greatest eyes

968
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 1: I've ever seen as a passer. UM he can watch

969
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: a guy's tape and tell you what he's seen or

970
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: what he isn't seen. UM all vets stuff off guys

971
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: like Bledsoe or whatever. If I'm unsure, I'll reach out

972
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: to a quarterback because it usually comes down to their eyes.

973
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: He usually comes down to what a good evaluator of

974
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: traits of system can see, to what a quarterback can

975
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: know that that guy is or isn't seen because we've

976
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: lived in and guys like me that are transparent with

977
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: my failures, like I got myself in a lot of

978
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: trouble because I saw it, just like this guy says

979
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: at quarterback B that I might not be high on Um.

980
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: He has it all. I think the biggest thing though,

981
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: in this conversation this class. I love Joe Burrow, I

982
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: love Herbert. I think he's that some of these other

983
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: guys have high ceilings. What's their thirst to get better

984
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: next year and the year after and after their second

985
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: contract because they're all gonna be mega, mega rich after

986
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 1: the second contract. They're probably gonna sign three hundred million

987
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: dollar deals after the second contract, which one of those

988
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: guys are like Peyton Manning that when he got the

989
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: first hundred million dollar contract and the first mic that

990
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: was put in his face and said, Peyton, what are

991
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: you gonna do with this? Is I'm gonna earn it.

992
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: That's the secret, sauce, y'all. That is the difference guys

993
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: that aren't great like me that got paid a ton

994
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 1: of money in a second contract and kind of exhaled,

995
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: or guys that when they get that, when they get

996
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: the riches of the world, when you can write on

997
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: any private jet, you can go anywhere you want, you

998
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: can make any decision you want. They choose to do

999
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: the lonely work. They choose watched eight. They choose to

1000
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: work on their mobility stability. They choose to retweak their mechanics.

1001
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: They choose to bring guys out to their houses and

1002
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: work routes on there in the off season. They choose

1003
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 1: to do whatever the hard stuff is to get better

1004
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: every year. That's what we can't tell who's better between

1005
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: some of these guys. You can only guess which guys

1006
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: have that competitive nature, which guys have that assassin quality

1007
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: to him, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning.

1008
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: Any of them they're going to the Hall of Fame

1009
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: have that same trades. I know to A has that trade.

1010
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't know about the rest, but Buck, you you

1011
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: heard in his voice there what Trent thinks of two

1012
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: not only as a as a person, but as a player.

1013
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: He loves his ability. When he talks about uh, he

1014
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: hasn't seen anybody like him. That's impressive coming from Trent.

1015
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: But I want to get your perspective on that relationship

1016
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: between those two. Haven't had a front row seat there

1017
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: at a Lead eleven. I mean, he's loved him from

1018
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: day one. He's loving from the time did he watch

1019
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: to start performing to Lead eleven. And I'm gonna say

1020
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: that the adoration didn't necessarily come from too of being

1021
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: the best guy at the camp. It came from two

1022
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: showing up at one camp and by the time he

1023
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: showed up to the next camp, he was dramatically improved.

1024
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: His ability to take information and to put it in

1025
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: play right away. And then when you go to the

1026
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: Leader eleven finals and the opening, when you have the

1027
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: competition aspect um, what you like to see in a

1028
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: competition that is full of alpha's, you want to see

1029
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: the cream rods to the top. And what happened is

1030
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,479
Speaker 1: as the intensity of the competition grew to it got

1031
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: better and better. And so when you take that and

1032
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: you see how he did it as a high schooler,

1033
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: and then you see the things that he had in

1034
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: the big moments that uh, he needed to perform well,

1035
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: and as a collegian, you just expect that he is

1036
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: going to continue to meet the challenge and continue to

1037
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: raise the bar as he continues to go on. I

1038
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: think he's destined for greatness when he has an opportunity

1039
00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: to play in the net flub Well, one of the

1040
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: challenges for to probably the biggest challenge has just been

1041
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: durability and health and he's been fighting through this this

1042
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: hip injury to get himself back to one. Is he well,

1043
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: that's a that's a conversation he had with our Steve

1044
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: Weish with the NFL network, and we wanted to roll

1045
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of that conversation. Do you feel like

1046
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: you're pretty much like you were before you got hurt? Oh?

1047
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: I I feel you know, I feel like if there

1048
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: was a game today, I'd be able to go out

1049
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: there and perform in the same way I was able

1050
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: to perform the other years when I was healthy. Now

1051
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: and going through your workouts to you know, your your

1052
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: passing progressions, you know some of the run game stuff

1053
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: in that you're doing. What was what's been the hardest

1054
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: part to overcome because of the injury. Well, I'd say

1055
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: the hardest part that I had to overcome with was

1056
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: not being able to do things. That was that was

1057
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: the hardest part. Um I see everyone else preparing for

1058
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: for pro their pro days. I see everyone else being

1059
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: able to prepare for the combine and I'm over here

1060
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: doing rehab, you know. So it's it's hard to see

1061
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: everyone doing things. And even when I was at the

1062
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: combine and seeing the quarterbacks being able to throw and

1063
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: me not being able to go out there and just

1064
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: compete with them, it was it was it was hard

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: at that aspect. I'm sure you're gonna through some of

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00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: these video conference meetings with teams as well. What about

1067
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: that process? I mean, can you really convey everything you'd

1068
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: like to convey through a video conference? I'd say it's

1069
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's it's very difficult. You can't some of

1070
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: the content that the coaches try to try to teach

1071
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,959
Speaker 1: you or try to show you. You can't really see

1072
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: it as good sometimes depending on your connection or whatever

1073
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: the external factors are. But it it's it's difficult because

1074
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: at the same time, you can't hear some of the

1075
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: guys talking, and you don't know who's talking. Sometimes, Well

1076
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: you heard it there, Bucky said, yeah. I mean, look,

1077
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: he's worked really hard to put himself in a position

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00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: where he could work out in front of the scouse

1079
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: and he can kind of show them a little bit

1080
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: of where he's at, uh prior to the draft, And

1081
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: I think the main thing for him and for everybody

1082
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: is not necessarily that he is ready to play when

1083
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: draft weekends comes around. It's more so is when is

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00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: he really going to be ready to play and perform

1085
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 1: like the two that we have UH seen on tape.

1086
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest question, that's the biggest thing

1087
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: that everyone has to determine. When is he going to

1088
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,719
Speaker 1: be back to the oh two of the tour that

1089
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: we saw at the championship game, the tour that we

1090
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: saw last fall, Because that's the version that I'm willing

1091
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: to wait on. I don't want to short change him

1092
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: by rushing him to get him on the field when

1093
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: the season opens. Yeah, I think that's a smart move,

1094
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: even if he has I don't know, you can't go

1095
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: over a hundred percent technically, I guess that's mathematically impossible.

1096
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: But I almost want to say maybe a hundred two

1097
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: percent before we get him out there. Let's be extra

1098
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: careful and cautious here, so we can have a long,

1099
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: long career, which we both believe I will be very successful.

1100
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: All Right, we've heard from all the folks buck we've

1101
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 1: talked about to off the field. Let's get into the

1102
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: on field evaluation and what you've seen from him and

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00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: what you anticipate the transition being like for him at

1104
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: the next level. D I think I think everyone has

1105
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of said it. Like the twitch, the explosiveness, the

1106
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: overall quickness that he displays when he has the ball

1107
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: in his hands is really really impressive, from quickly identified

1108
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: where to go with the ball, to the ball getting

1109
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: there immediately when he spots the open receiver, to being

1110
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: able to really be what I call a Jedi master

1111
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: when it comes to the r P O game. His

1112
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: ball handling, his quick release, all of those things I

1113
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: don't know if we've seen a better guy executing those

1114
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: kinds of concepts. And then when you really look at him,

1115
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: because I think people have made the mistake of maybe

1116
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: trying to compare him to Russell Wilson, I don't think

1117
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: he plays the game in that manner. His game, to

1118
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: me early resembles what Drew Brees looked like as a youngster.

1119
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: His ability to climb in the pocket and move around

1120
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: and deliver these accurate strikes. I think that quality and

1121
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: his leadership the is what is really really convincing to

1122
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: me that he's gonna be a terrific franchise quarterback. Yeah.

1123
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: I love the I love the instincts that he has

1124
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: on the football field. You know, when you see him

1125
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: when everything's drawn up the way it's supposed to be

1126
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: and you get the look that you want, he can

1127
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 1: attack and he can make you pay for it. But

1128
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: when everything's not perfect, when he gets flushed, he has

1129
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: to create um. He has that an aed ability to

1130
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: do it, and that started obviously with his uh, you know,

1131
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: his throw to win the National Championship Game. So this

1132
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: is somebody that's proven he can play on schedule, off schedule.

1133
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: The twitches there. Um you see it. The ball jumps

1134
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: out of his hand. Um, really buckets. You know, you

1135
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: can't separate the durability. That's just not an off the

1136
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: field thing. That's a concern when you talk about on

1137
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: the field. He's got to be available, if he's if

1138
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: he's available as a player at the next level, I

1139
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: have no doubt he's going to be successful. And I

1140
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: think the team that gets him is going to incorporate

1141
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: a lot of the r P O game. And talking

1142
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: to one GM said, he's the best RPO quarterback he's

1143
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: ever seen. Ball handling, you know, just snap the ball off.

1144
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: He can hit that slant a million times over. Um,

1145
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: he's very comfortable or so. I think this kid is

1146
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a big success at the next level, provided

1147
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: you can just stay healthy. Yeah, And I think that

1148
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: is the thing that everyone is is debating, like, Um,

1149
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: what are you going to get from to it? And

1150
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: how long are you going to get it? And then

1151
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: are you willing to have five six years of exceptional

1152
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: performance u versus a quarterback that may give you a

1153
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: decade of just solid play. I think that's what everyone

1154
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: has to determine. I think that's why the medical situation

1155
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: is such a touchy subject for so many value with

1156
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: it is. We all like to envision the franchise quarterback

1157
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: being in place for a decade plus in the new

1158
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,959
Speaker 1: game and the new era. But you just wonder, would

1159
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: you rather trade the opportunity to have an elite player,

1160
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: even for a short time, or someone that may not

1161
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: ever reach that ceiling but is able to be around.

1162
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: I think that's ultimately the decision that everyone has to

1163
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: make when it comes down to draft into a talking

1164
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: about law, and I think we both anticipate that being

1165
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: one of two teams more than likely the Miami Dolphins

1166
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: or the Los ange Thus Chargers. They pick five, they

1167
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: pick six, uh, well, one of them get antsy and

1168
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: potentially move up. The Detroit Lions would be the spot

1169
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: I would target the third overall pick, uh to see

1170
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,439
Speaker 1: if you could get get two in your building, which

1171
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: I think would not only make a big time impact

1172
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: on the field. But you mentioned that Buck bringing the energy.

1173
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: He will bring life and energy to your organization, which

1174
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: is what you want at the most important position. All Right,

1175
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap it up for us today. I want

1176
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: to thank everybody who helped put this together. Special shout

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01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: out to our Juna Uh, Nobille, Mark Brady. They all

1178
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: did a wonderful job. Mark Tony of David Singer some

1179
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 1: love for all the guests he was able to get

1180
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: for us, the best booker in the business. We do

1181
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: appreciate him. Um. We have the other episodes available if

1182
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: you haven't checked them out, one on Justin Herbert and

1183
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. You can find those in podcast form. Uh

1184
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: if you just go to Apple Podcast or your favorite

1185
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: podcast app, you can also find the videos of those,

1186
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: and those will be on NFL dot com slash MTS

1187
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: video you can find those there as well. All Right,

1188
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us. Thank you so much

1189
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: for listening. We'll catch you next time. I'm right here

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Speaker 1: on Move the Sticks, m