WEBVTT - Draft Show: On The Defensive 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.919 This is the twenty twenty one NFL Draft with Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.320 Brian brought us Dave Hellman, Dane Brufler, and Jeff Cavanaugh. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:36.040 Day two of the NFL Draft is upon us. Welcome 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.400 in to Dallas Cowboys dot Com and one oh five 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:41.120 three the fans coverage wall to wall. You're a Browns 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:44.280 two and three of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.960 taking place in Cleveland, Ohio. I'm Kyle Yeoman's pleased to 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:52.240 be joined by the best analyst, the best crew there 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.480 is whenever it comes to the Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.920 Draft show and draft coverage in general. Brian brought us 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.200 Jeff Kavanaugh, Dane Bruce were from the Athletic and then 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.720 Dallas Cowboys dot COM's own draft expert, as we like 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.240 to call you. I feel like Brian and Jeff would 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.399 probably have something to say about that, and same thing 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.280 with Dane. But Brian draft actually David Hellman something to 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:15.200 say about everything I do. So no, Dave's an expert. 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.640 Just Dave goes to like one hundred to one hundred 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:20.880 and twenty players, then I go to one fifty and 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.120 Brian goes to two hundred, and then Dane goes to 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:27.959 eight hundred. Yeah, Dave, Dave is an expert. That might 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.200 be the best thing you've said already, Dave. Dave's an 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.800 expert to a certain point. And then Dave likes to 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:35.560 ask Dane what he thinks. Yeah, tomorrow is gonna be boy, 0:01:35.640 --> 0:01:38.120 I cannot wait to hear what Dane has to say tomorrow. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.360 A lot of pitching that direction to that side of 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.840 the table. And of course, right now it looks like 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.360 the Cowboys have a little bit of time until they 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.040 are on the clock. They pick at the moment, and 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.840 there's a lot of emphasis on at the moment at 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.600 the number forty four over all slotted spot as the 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.200 Cowboys still waiting for their second pick. Of course, their 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.920 first one came at twelve. In last night's part of 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.800 the draft of the first round, Michael Parsons, linebacker out 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.760 of Penn State, was taken with the twelfth overall pick 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.240 after trading down from the Philadelphia Eagles. But Brian, I 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.640 mean there is some smoke coming from that front office, 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.680 in that that war room at the moment of maybe 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.720 trying to get back up in the early parts of 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.120 this second round. Yeah, this is great to be and 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.200 if this is the difficult thing that you deal with 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.079 when everybody has had the opportunity to sleep on their 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.360 board and you know, you got all those names up, 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.640 then you're thinking like, Okay, how can I get to 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.520 this guy? How can I maneuver? And you know, Dallas 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.399 has got the extra picks that they can maybe make 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.840 this happen. And I'm hearing for from several of my 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.280 guys up on the top near that board that the 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.840 Cowboys are attempting to move up there to get in 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.720 that range, you know, the top of the first pick 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:53.640 there would be at thirty three, thirty four, with the 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.000 Jets Atlanta at thirty five. Starting to hear some whispers 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.600 about that maybe the Cowboys were trying to get up 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.960 in there. So they're trying they've got a player of mine. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.760 And but the thing about it, though, guys, sometimes these 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.200 teams are not going to let you back in because 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.320 they're sleeping on those boards, and you know, and they 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.200 see those players like, man, let's let's just pick this guy. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.000 We'll move on and we'll work the roast of the 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.799 draft from there. That's the hard part for me. And 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.040 we said that, you know, we did the pro post 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.440 round press conference last night. We got back on the air, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.919 and Brian, you remember twenty fourteen. It feels a lot 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.440 like that to me, where you know, you drafted Zach Martin. 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:32.080 There you maybe had one guy by the name of 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.160 DeMarcus Lawrence that you really loved, and they jumped up 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.240 to pick thirty four second pick in the round to 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.120 get him. The problem is they had a trade partner 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.600 and do they have it right now? And that's the 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.600 big question for me. I mean, we're gonna find out, 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.480 because I think if the Cowboys can trade, I really 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.640 think that they're gonna try to because they have the AMMO. 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.520 I think they're happy with Micah Parsons, but I think 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.320 we would all agree they would have loved to have 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:56.560 gotten a cornerback last night. That's my inclination at least, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:03:59.120 and I think they're gonna try. It's just a matter 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.160 of if they can find a part They're looking at 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.320 those three third round picks and they're not thinking, Okay, 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:06.640 we're gonna draft three good players there. They're thinking, Okay, 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.160 we're gonna use one of those two of those to 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.760 go up and get even better player. And if they 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.440 come away within the first three rounds with three players. 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.560 Nothing wrong with that if they really believe in those players. 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:22.480 And so corner, maybe another defensive player could be a safety, 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.760 someone they have their eye on, someone looking to trade 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.800 up and get their guy. Who do you think that 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.599 would be. That's my biggest question, because it could be 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.720 a corner Jaff, it could be a safety. But at 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.080 the same time, you're gonna have to give up a 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:37.800 good amount of draft capital to get into that conversation, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.240 especially whenever it is, like Brian said, after sleeping on 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.840 a board like they have. Yeah, and it's tough because 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:46.359 you try to narrow it down based on who you 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.239 think the best players are left, and then you throw 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:54.440 in the Cowboys' needs, right, because my initial inclination would 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:57.320 be Holy Cow, Jeremiah Wosu Cormo is the best player 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.760 on this board. But is that somebody that the Cowboys 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.760 would be interested in or do we need to shift 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:06.320 our attention over to somebody like Trevon merrig or Richie 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:11.520 Grant or one of these corners. And again, because I 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.680 want to get in their brain and my brain. If 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.400 you were going up for a corner, I'm like, whoa 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:19.600 Kelvin Joseph and Asante Samuel Junior, and one of those 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:25.000 is coachability questions, and one of those is small and 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.320 so do I need to move on down a little 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:29.640 bit and say, okay, what about like Trevon marrig or 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:34.760 Tyson Campbell the Georgia corner? Would they be in on 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.320 Christian Barmore? Would they be in on an edge like 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:43.160 a ziz ajulary. Because some of my top players are 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:47.560 guys like Elijah Moore, Tevin Jenkins, Landon Dickerson. I don't 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.520 know that those are trees they want to bark up. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.000 So I don't know, Dan, you want to help me 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.400 try to narrow it down because I could go so 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.920 many directions. And corner is so fascinating because after those 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.880 first four guys, the four guys that were drafted last 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:06.679 night with Certan Horn Farley and Greg Newsome, it's really 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:11.880 anybody's guests which order each team has corners five through twelve. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.200 I mean, if Paulson Nadibo was the target, would that 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.120 be completely shocking? Not really? You know, he's a quality player, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.440 He's a Day two player. And so when you look 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:24.640 at guys like Tyson Campbell, if you have to Melofon, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.640 Aaron Robinson, Paulson, Nadibo Asante, Samuel. I mean there's so 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.640 many names here at corner that if they love one 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.600 of these guys above the rest, that that could be 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.640 the target. We know they want to get upgrade the 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.200 cornerback position, and if they feel like there's a gap 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.120 between one of the guys, one of the corners that's 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.480 left and then the rest of that group, I really 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.680 feel like that could be the corner. We just it's 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.920 it's hard to figure out who that is. We just 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:49.920 don't have as many bread crumbs this year, you know, 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.560 trying to figure out exactly who they're targeting. You have 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.000 to we have to mention safety. No safety has been 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.640 drafted up to this point. Travan marig is out there, 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:03.360 Richie Grant, Javon Holland. I know there's some chatter about 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.799 Javon Holland being taken very early. I know the Dolphins 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.960 have their eye on him, So we can't rule out 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.320 safety either. A defensive back makes the most sense, though, 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.360 I think, right yeah, I'm just starting again. Well, you 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.920 guys are talking and giving really great information. Atlanta is 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:20.240 a team that's interested in moving. So if Dallas can 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.560 get the thirty five. I did the quick math on that, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.440 likely going to have to part with one of those 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.120 with one of those third round picks. You're seventy five, 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.280 is we're two hundred and fifteen points, that's a way 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.120 overpay you you're ninety You need ninety to get to 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.440 them with your pick. So you're you're seventy five's were 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.360 two fifteen. That's a way of an overpay. Eighty four 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.520 is worth one seventy and ninety nine is worth one 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.080 oh four. So if you can convince the Falcons, say 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.280 at thirty five, to take that ninety nine from me, 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.240 the third round pick that you that you you know 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.640 that you have, maybe that could get you to the 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.560 spot where you need to pick the guy I like 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.960 all the names that you guys were talking about. Would 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:03.000 you do it for eighty because it's not really yours anyway? No, 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.640 you took it as a consolation prize for not getting 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.680 what you wanted attend. If it helps you get one 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.800 of those players that you guys mentioned. I think you 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.880 app so. I think this is white Dallas. I think 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.480 the Merrick thing, I think there's I think there's some 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:19.320 some serious love there to that player, and I think 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.000 that you know that the defensive back coach goes over there, 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.560 he runs the workout and all that stuff. They're gonna 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.119 know that guy. They're looking for a true free safety here, guys, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.360 they really really are. But you know again, it could 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.880 be those cornerbacks too. I mean, they're just stacked in. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.200 There's so nicely for you, a couple of them on 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.640 the shorter side if you put your board together, probably 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.800 for you, great for them, not so much. I do 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:43.120 think it's interesting, and you know, I guess the flip 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.160 side of that, which is the side that me and 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.440 Dane would probably prefers. There's been so much smoke about 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:51.000 them maybe trying to trade that. I believe it. But 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:53.480 last year, I don't remember who brought this up today, 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.880 but they sat pat and let Treyvon Diggs just fall 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.320 to him at fifty one and it looks like every 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.920 good offensive tackle and this draft is still on the 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:06.640 board heading into today. Jeremiah Woosu, Cormoa, Christian Barmore. These 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.720 are guys you like, but not guys you need. Maybe 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.959 they can just hang tight and let it fall their way. 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:13.800 It didn't happen last night. It doesn't mean it can't 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.600 happen to night. Yeah. What we need to know about 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.439 Corey Moore is there's a there's a condition there, and 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.000 it's it's more of a procedure than it is a 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.040 something wrong with him. He has a cardiac workup that 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:29.080 needs to be done on him. It's more lack of information. Yeah, 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.160 that's the biggest problem. And if you talk to these 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.160 scouts and ascue me, there's doctors and trainers around the league. 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.720 They're saying, hey, no combine killed us. Right now, there's 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.240 only eighty percent of this information that we have on 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.080 these players. So this might be something that teams are 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.679 holding on when you start talking about cardiac heart so 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.679 we'll see. This is right around the moment when we 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.360 were going to see that start coming into play last night. 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.200 Whenever you have a first round grade on a player, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.160 you're not necessarily going to change that unless something major 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.520 comes out of the medicals. It's right around this second 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.320 third round where these are still premium picks, but you 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.960 still have to know at least, like Brian said, one 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.720 hundred percent of the medical information to feel good about 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.839 those premium picks. Well, and if the Cowboys were eyeing secondary. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:15.120 I would and this is not an informed speculation, it's 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.160 just my thought on the players, I would think that 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:20.880 would be a safety. And that actually kind of makes 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:22.480 it a challenge for me because I think they really 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.840 do want a corner. And so if you start talking 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:29.720 about packaging players and moving and giving guys up, because 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.320 to me, it goes to what Dane is saying, like 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.840 the order of the corners right now, I wouldn't want 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.560 my team to be in a hurry to say I've 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.320 got to have Tyson Campbell when let's say, for the 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.240 Cowboys scheme, you want to fit Paulson, Nadibo, melafon Wu 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.040 Tyson Campbell, like I got a few of them. So like, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.840 I wouldn't be in a hurry to be so confident 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.319 that I have the right order when there's so many 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.600 people who have them in different orders that I need 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.600 to jump to the front of the line to go 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.040 get one of them. But I could see you thinking 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.720 that about the safety. I could see you having a 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.920 big time preference on the safeties a lot easier than 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.800 the corners. Is that crazy? Well, but that's assuming that 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.120 they like all these corners. You know, it's it's it's 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.440 hard to say, because who knows, they might not be 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:15.760 interested in some of these guys, whether it be Aaron 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:17.600 Robinson or a Debo or you know, it's just hard 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.920 to say. But I think that's a fair point in general, 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.800 because the safeties are there fewer safeties in this draft 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.000 that you feel are worthy of a top fifty pick, 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:29.280 whereas corners, that's a position that's going to stretch, which 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.599 I hate. I hate that I'm saying this because I 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.040 want them to draft. I want them to draft a 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.160 safety so bad, and there's so many ones that I 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.120 like that are they can hang here. They could get 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.600 Holland they could maybe you know, maybe they trade up 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.600 for Mark or maybe maybe he falls, who knows, It's 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.319 not out of the question. Richie Grant is one of 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.960 everybody's one of their favorite players. Yeah, but I go 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.480 back to twenty fourteen because I learned a valuable lesson 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:55.000 that year from Brian brought us. They traded up for 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:56.959 DeMarcus Lawrence, and I hate getting rid of picks, and 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:00.000 I was like, you know, Trent Murphy was still there. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:02.920 Who else was still there in that draft? Stefan too, 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.880 it was still there, Like all these guys were still 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.360 what are they doing. Brian was like, DeMarcus Lawrence is 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.000 the only one left that they thought could play right 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.959 into this scheme. Sometimes your preference is right, and and 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:14.920 I mean, yeah, DeMarcus Lawrence worked out. But the point is, 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.320 you see a list of ten guys, you're like, this 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.280 cornerback class can stretch. They probably or might I don't 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.240 want to say probably. They might see three guys. They're like, 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.079 there are three guys that can play on the boundary 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:27.160 in this scheme that we feel good about, and we 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:30.040 can't afford to lose them. Okay, well, riddle me this 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.680 because for me, the top guys available don't play the 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.640 positions we're talking about. Like my top guys would be 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:45.520 j ok adularry Landon Dickerson, Tevin Jenkins, Elijah Moore. Could 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.480 the Cowboys stun you if they're trying to go up 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.240 to get the highest rated player on the board, even 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.120 if it's not one of the positions we're talking about. 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.120 That's a fantastic question, and it's it's easy to fall 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.320 in because I think, you know, last night with Kat 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.440 we said like we beat it into the ground corner 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.840 corner horns or tan horns or tan and so now 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:05.640 we're sitting here. No, I don't want to say panic, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:07.560 but you just feel that need. And I wonder if 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.320 they feel it too, or if it's just us, And 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.160 I don't know the answer, because like, if I were 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:12.920 talking about going back up at the very top of 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.360 round two, I would be doing it for a first 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:17.440 round grade. So, like, I think, what would be fun 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.720 is go around the room. You have first round players left? 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.200 Who are they? I do? I have two? I have 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.160 a Coromoa and OJULARI would be my two guys left. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.160 Those are my two as well. Dane yep, same here, Dave. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.640 I mean I'll throw in Barmore. I know y'all hate him, 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.920 but I don't, Okay. So that's just that's what I wonder. 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.800 Would they be would they be trying to get up 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.480 there for a guy at a position that they feel 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.439 like they need and like, or would they be kind 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.320 of in lockstep with Hey, guys, the two or three 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:46.360 best players are these and they're there, let's go get them. Yeah. Well, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.560 it's interesting when you look at the guys that are left. 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.319 There's usually a reason for it, you know, a Woosta Koramoa. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.240 Brian laid that out Audilari's got his own medical issues. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.800 Christian Barmore, he's got his own off field issues. Landon Dickerson, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.000 he's got medical concerns. Tevin Jenkins off field and medical concerns. 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.360 H Own Zika at Washington, He's got a few medical things. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.600 So on and on and on. Each one of these 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:12.360 players that are the quote unquote best available, there's something 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:14.439 going on with each of them that are going to 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.600 cause them to fall a little bit where that fall 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.719 is going to end. As anybody's guests, do you think 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.920 that that might play into the factor of the Cowboys 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.640 may be jumping up because they're afraid that some of 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.600 those guys with these big old question marks hovering over 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.400 them are going to fall, and the players that they 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.120 thought originally we're gonna be there at forty four might 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:32.720 go a little bit early on here in this this 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.120 second round. I'll tell you what happened last night. That 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:37.000 was a big that was a big punch in the 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.600 face of reality. You know, I don't know. I heard 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.800 that was a top player on their broad Okay, he's yeah, 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:43.880 that's not a good point, that's right, I mean, but 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.200 that's but you also could you also hear that oh well, hey, 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.360 well we would have taken one of the corners over 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:53.240 him if that was the case. And so that was 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.280 a that was a big, big gut punch last night 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.720 to sit there and watch that happen right in front 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.560 of you, and Stephen Jones, to his credit, laying chum 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.480 in the water two three days before with Philadelphia, knowing 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:07.640 how he wants to come up and get a wide receiver, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:10.360 because at seven thirty in the morning, he's trying to 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.480 go up and get wattle, you know, but he has 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.880 to settle with Smith, which is not a bad consolation 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.200 prize by the way, But that was a big kick 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:20.200 in the you know what. I've said it three different 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.960 ways now, but that's that's what I want to shout out. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:27.600 Urban Meyer commend him for his honesty. He said today 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.240 that they were heartbroken when someone was taken off the 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:33.520 board right before they picked at twenty five. So he 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.080 didn't try to hide it and say, oh, yeah, Travis 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:36.760 etn was the next guy on our board, you know, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.680 the top player on our board. He was flat out 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.720 said we were heartbroken. I don't he didn't say who, 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.880 maybe Kadarius Tony went twenty, but he did not hide it, 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.000 which I appreciate that honesty. Yeah, that's that's refreshing, because 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.920 lord knows, you know, every guy they against the guy 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.760 they wanted. You don't want to be the team sitting 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.360 there with draft cappel and again I'm the guy also 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.320 to the predict that they're gonna make all these picks 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.800 because Steve Jones is telling me I got no money, Bros. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.200 I'm so I got no money. I gotta get all 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.240 these young players to play, you know, but I want 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.080 You don't want to be the team sitting there with 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.560 all these picks and going, oh man, we're just letting 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.120 him come off the board and we could have done 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.920 something here, you know, Or you see somebody make a trade, 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.760 you're like going, what are we doing? You know you 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.080 don't want to be that team. Well, you also mentioned 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:24.040 it a couple of moments ago, and my own only 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.120 take one of those picks to get back up into 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.360 the top thirty, to get into those those mid thirties picks. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.600 If you only take one of your eleven picks to 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.560 do so, I don't think it's necessarily anything we could 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.960 we could go against. If it's the Dallas Cowboys, let's 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.120 go and take our first break before the first pick 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:41.920 is in of the night. The pick is in, by 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.320 the way from Jacksonville, who is on the clock to 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.200 start off the second round of the NFL Draft. You're 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:49.360 listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:56.359 oh five three. The fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:00.960 party continue. It does continue, party, Isn't that right? Just 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:05.399 turn around tends if you're hungry or thirty, or you 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.600 forget that you're still technically on the air and you 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.080 say something dumb like I have a tendency to do 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.520 and you do that from time a career out of that, 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.000 I really have. So I like to consider our Dallas 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:20.000 Cowboys dot Com viewers these are the friends, right, like, Hey, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.960 you know what, sometimes I am tired and cranky. Yeah, 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.840 sometimes I do need to snack. The radio. The radio 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.800 listeners are like work. They're co workers and now or 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.919 with friends. We're happy to have you here. That's a 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.520 good way to say it. I mean, if you're on 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.680 the Dallas Cowboys side of things, you very well could 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:36.480 have been with us from the beginning when we started 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.320 the draft show back in December. So you've been around, 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.840 You've you've seen the personalities back and forth. But Dane 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:45.040 is the pick is in for Jacksonville pick number thirty 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:46.800 three of the NFL Draft. Do you think it could 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.600 be here? As Goodell walks to the stage, Tyson Campbell, 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.360 that that was I heard that Jacksonville Jaguars liked him 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.160 a lot. Uh. That makes the most sensere They could 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:58.760 use a corner But there's a lot of players on 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.000 the board here. They got plenty of calls too, and 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.200 they turned down every one of those calls. So someone 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.879 here that they really really like could be Tyson Campbell. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.440 By the way, we are not allowed to use the 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:16.320 audio again from the NFL broadcast of the NFL Yes, 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.600 we are okay, but we still can't use it. Apparently, 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:24.359 cornerback Tyson Campbell out of Georgia, first pick off the board. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.760 I mentioned him earlier, and Dan, you were very quick 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:29.120 to say he was going to be the first pick. 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:31.439 It's what I heard. That's what I was told last night, 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.560 and I was told this morning. Uh. It's funny. Uh. 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:39.280 Soon after Tyson Campbell, the odds makers to go thirty 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.200 three went from like plus seven hundred to minus two 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:44.679 fifty or something, So you knew something was up. I 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.000 just want to like, Jeff's over here dancing because the 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.160 guy he doesn't like is off the board. Yeah, we're 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.560 already there. Tyson Campbell's a freaking good cornerback, man, I 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.080 don't understand the hate. I like him more than Stokes, 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.200 to be honest with you, I just think he looks natural. 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:00.240 He got it in the sec week after we like, 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.720 what do you want? I think he's more fluid than 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:07.479 Stokes is, but Stokes got better results every week. And like, 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:11.960 I think Campbell can be a good corner I don't 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.800 think he is a good NFL quote. He didn't go 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.760 in the top ten. He's a second round pick, I know. 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.240 But he's my one, two, three, four or five six 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.359 seventh corner left. So I didn't want the Cowboys to 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:24.600 trade up for my seventh corner left because I'm more 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.800 about me that We've been over this a million times. 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.439 But that's the disconnect, because I don't care about me 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:32.560 or you. Oh see, I'm in on me because if 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:34.439 you don't care about you, nobody's going to that is 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:38.199 that here on the draft A poster out of that 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.080 on the wall, down to that point, Like I'm sure 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.880 you have Asante Samuel over over him right here. Well, 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.000 he's not. He won't be a Cowboys pick, So I 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.800 just don't care. So that's a good question, though, Asante Samuel, 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.800 it's been very quick, it's been very well documented that 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.080 we're riding him off as a quote unquote Cowboys pick. 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.480 I am, I don't want. You're not alone in that 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.680 regard though, because of the way that he fits into 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.680 what could be the Dan Quinn system. However, if he's 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:07.760 a slot corner, could you use him there? If you 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:09.879 thought he was better than Jordan Lewis, could you use 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.080 him in that scenario? Because he is a little shorter, 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:15.840 but he's quick enough. I can play out something. I mean, 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.480 I could play him outside. I just what bothers me 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.040 is that the Cowboys tell us it's player over scheme, 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:24.840 and then we write off a bunch of players because 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:27.119 of this because of its game. So I just I 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:31.280 just went consistency. There is that a scheme thing? Or listen, 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.879 I get like I've watched Asante Samuel's tape. He's really 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:36.919 good and he did it on the outside in a 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:40.960 major college conference, which you know, Florida State certainly fits 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:44.240 the parameters of the schools they look at. But it's 0:20:44.280 --> 0:20:46.639 still I think it's more of just a philosophy thing 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:48.600 in a scheme thing of like if you're a certain size, 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.320 then you don't have a certain reach, you can't do 0:20:50.400 --> 0:21:05.800 certain things. I don't know if that's scheme. The first 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:08.720 pick of the twenty twenty one second round of the 0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.720 NFL Draft, Tyson Campbell, goes to the Jacksonville Jaguars, the 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:16.320 cornerback out of George As. We welcome you back into 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.640 our coverage here on one oh five three the Fan 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:22.119 and Dallas Cowboys dot Com and Dan We just mentioned 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:23.760 a couple of moments ago. But what kind of player 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.159 are the Jaguars getting with that first pick of the draft? 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:30.320 Size speed talk about how you draw up the cornerback position. 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:33.359 He is what it looks like at least, just you know, 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:35.960 going out there and being an athlete. The big reason 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.159 why he's still available here is he really struggles to 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:41.600 find the football and make plays on the football. It's 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:43.600 it's and that's something that you talk to. Some coaches, 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:45.840 they'll say, we can coach him to be better in 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.720 that area. Other coaches will tell you either you have 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:50.400 it or you don't. And I would say. The one 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.720 thing about Tyson Campbell that I liked about him is 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:58.080 he was consistently in phase where you know, SEC quarterbacks 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.520 did not hesitate to throw at him, but he was 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:02.680 always in phase. It wasn't like he was off balance 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:04.800 and just looked out of control out there. He was 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.680 in phase. He just couldn't finish And so I understand 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.280 why he is the pick here. And Jaguars they want 0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.639 to get better at corner. They drafted CJ. Henderson in 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.639 the first round last year. They go back to the 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.959 SEC for another corner this year with Tyson Campbell. Understand 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.080 you know Urban Meyer, he wants speed and they get 0:22:23.119 --> 0:22:25.520 a lot of it here with Campbell and Kavadaugh. This 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.719 is one of your guys that at least were a 0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:30.479 Cowboys target, but not necessarily one that you were very 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:32.720 high on. Yeah, and it's pretty much exactly what Dane 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:34.440 is saying, like, I'm a big fan of the guys 0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:36.360 who as a cornerback. The ball is in the air, 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:39.320 now what, And if the answer to now what is 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:41.119 I'm gonna find it and I'm gonna make a play, 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.720 You're kind of my guy. And if that's not the answer, 0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:46.600 then I'm scared. So that's the sort of player that 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.320 I didn't want to see the Cowboys give up an 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.960 additional pick to go pursue. I would rather say, Okay, 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:53.879 let's see what's going to happen with these corners for 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:55.919 another minute. Let's let it play out for a second. 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.359 And if you end up scrambling with the last guy 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.119 that you think because a fit like what happened with 0:23:01.160 --> 0:23:03.960 Tank Lawrence, go get him. Um that's just not the 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:05.879 guy that I wanted to do it for. And so 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.320 I hope he plays well in Jacksonville because I cheer 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:11.200 for everybody. Guys. Guys, Dallas is going to own Atlanta's 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:17.560 pick here. So they got in at thirty five. So yeah, 0:23:17.600 --> 0:23:20.520 I don't know the particulars of what happened with the trade, 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.160 but we'll we'll get him here. We've got You've got 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:28.240 the Jets still ahead, but Dallas has convinced the Atlanta 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.080 Falcons to that we need your pick, so we'll see 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:34.119 what happens as we get there. I'm not I'm I'm 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:36.159 dumb a lot, and I'm wrong a lot. But I 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.159 love I love feeling smart and right. It is a 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:41.840 fantastic feel. Okay, now I just got another text says 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.520 they just backed out. Oh okay, why we use a pencil? 0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:49.959 All right, let's just this. Yeah, I'm dealing with I'm 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:51.520 dealing with a bunch of teams. Got a couple of 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.320 sources going on. Yeah, I got a couple of sources. 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.600 I'm sorry, Brian's a busy guy. Right as I start 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.480 to reach to pat myself on the backs away from you, 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:03.960 you were actually in motion fel good about himself. Never mind, Honestly, 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:06.280 I wouldn't, you know, not to I don't want to 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:08.359 sound too self important, but I wouldn't be surprised by 0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.520 the way. The Jets have just made their selection at 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:14.439 thirty four. Wide receiver Elijah Moore out of Old miss 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.800 is the second player off the board here in the 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:20.359 second round of the draft. Really good wide receiver, and Jeff, 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:21.960 I know you were mentioning him a couple of moments 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:27.960 ago as well. They just said Dallas backed out, So okay, yeah, 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.840 they backed out Elijah Moore. Yeah, he was my fourth 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.119 favorite wide receiver in this draft, and I kind of 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:34.520 thought he would go in the first round. I love 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.439 Elijah Moore. I think there's elements when you watch him 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:41.399 run routes that are almost Antonio brownish, and he's got 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.440 four three speed and he has incredible production in the SEC. 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.240 I think Elijah Moore is a really really good player 0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.520 at a premium position. So I think that that is 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.200 a great pick. I feel really weird about how much 0:24:53.240 --> 0:24:57.520 I like what the Jets are doing. Three really good pigs. Yeah, 0:24:57.680 --> 0:24:59.640 good point. I mean, Joe Douglas knows what he's doing. 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:01.760 And you know, you look at what they did last 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:03.760 year in the first round with McKay Beckton. Then this 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.480 year they get Elijah vera tucker that's the left side 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:08.400 of their line for the next ten years. It looks 0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.640 pretty good. And then you add a weapon like Elijah Moore, 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.280 who Jamison Crowder maybe a June first cut. You got 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.440 Corey Davis and Denzel Mims on the outside, Elijah Moore 0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:21.399 on the inside. Hey, Zach Wilson, Uh, not not a 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:23.639 bad start there for you. In New York, roll left, 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.160 you know, shuffle left in the pocket and then get 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.840 the ball out Brian kind of going off of what 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.440 what was reported initially. And then of course, like you said, 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.399 Dallas backing out, word coming down or at least rumor 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.560 that they wanted Tyson Campbell there, Yeah, there's a penchantial 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.600 that they wanted Campbell and with him off the board, 0:25:39.920 --> 0:25:42.359 is it possible that it's back on? Brian? Is it 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:46.040 Schefter just tweetstrating out, Oh, they're trading maybe so they 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.320 might not be else. I wonder if they got a 0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:56.280 better off. That's a good point. This is crazy. Oh, 0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.800 back and forth. So Atlanta is out, that's that's big 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.480 report is out, So that would be the next pick. 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.560 So they have they have already said to the Jets, 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.879 at least on the NFL broadcast, that Elijah Moore is 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.320 the pick. But nobody's moved on and that's probably for 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:12.159 good reason. They're trying to figure out who they just 0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:15.399 traded out too well. And Elijah Moore was the highest, 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.159 my highest graded player still available that didn't have one 0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:20.639 of those off field or medical issues you know we 0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:25.280 went through. Was that clean, very clean player aside from 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.920 what happened at UH in the Egg Bowl two years ago. Iconic, 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:34.600 Oh did he do the fire hydrant thing? Yeah, I 0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.000 should have moved him up to wide receiver three. Yeah, 0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.840 that's great. So yeah, that's the extent of it. And 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.719 then you can feel pretty good about Elijah Moore. By 0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:43.879 the way, the pick is in at thirty five and 0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:46.399 it was the Denver Broncos. Wow, just a team of 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:50.640 the d Denver's just out to ruin Dallas, Alas strapped 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:52.439 all the way. From far did they come up? They 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:56.280 went from him forty I assume, right if they gave 0:26:56.359 --> 0:27:00.000 that up. Yeah, that's okay. So if you're Atlanta, you're thinking, 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.720 and I'm not falling as far back to forty four, 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:05.520 I can fall back to forty and still get a 0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:07.639 third round pick, and then I can trade back to 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.800 forty four if Dallas this guy makes it to me 0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:14.080 and I can get more get back up to forty three. Maybe. 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.680 How often, Brian you you spent some time in war rooms. 0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:18.320 How often does stuff like that? That was a lot 0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:21.560 of fun? How often? How often does that happen? Where 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.800 it happens? Yeah, it just gets completely Yeah, all of 0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:26.640 a sudden, you're on the phone and you're like, thinking, 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.040 we got a deal and you want us to turn 0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:30.680 the card in and they're like, no, we just lost 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.280 our guy. We'll catch you another time, and you're like damn, 0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:36.119 and you hang up the phone and you're starting like 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.679 who else we got on the phone. Oh so, so 0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.000 do we wonder it was it maybe Campbell? They thought 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:42.520 they were they were going up to try to get 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.920 Cambell and then he got picked. That would make sense, Okay, 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.359 So yeah, either that or like you said, Denver came 0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:49.200 up and put him put an offer on the table 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.160 that was better. We'll see what the what the compensation 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:53.760 is here in a couple of moments. But there's a 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:56.080 good chance that hey, maybe it is maybe Denver wanted 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.000 to go up and get one of these guys. Who 0:27:58.000 --> 0:27:59.960 could this be for Denver? Though, Dane, if you're looking 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.160 and trading up from forty to thirty five, it has 0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.720 to be a pretty select few individuals that they'd be 0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.760 interested in, right. Yeah, let's look at the needs chart 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.919 here for Denver, um you're looking at. Here's here's the compensation. 0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:17.400 By the way, Denver gives up thirty, gets thirty fifth, 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:21.320 they give up a six round pick as well. Uh, 0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:24.600 and then Atlanta has forty and they receive a fourth 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.320 which is one fourteen from Denver. So all this year 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:29.960 in this trade. At the moment, I think Denver's top 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:34.560 three knees right now quarterback, right tackle, and linebacker Jenkins. 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:40.480 Could this be Mills, a Wooskoramoa? Yeah, I mean quarterback. Yeah, 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:42.320 it could be where we see the quarterback where I mean, 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:43.880 you would think the would have taken fields at nine, 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.520 right if they really wanted a quarterback that badly. Listen 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:50.800 to the George Patton talk about that he was adamant 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.760 about keeping that certan pick. That was one that he 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.640 didn't even tell his scouts or anything that what he 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.440 was doing. So yeah, I mean, when you've got a 0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.320 cornerback available, you just you can't pick a quarterback. It 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.560 would just be an all play. I just can't worry 0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.600 about that need. So the pick is in, the Broncos 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:09.800 are about to select it, and with the thirty fifth 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:14.400 pick in the NFL Draft, the Broncos select I'm gonna 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.640 time this out right today at some point, Dave. I 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.000 was really bad at last week. You'll get it on 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.000 fifth last. It was last night. S See, it's been 0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:24.960 that kind of You're not inspiring confidence, not even a 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:26.560 little bit. Well, the problem is you never know when 0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:32.640 they got to read running back Williams out of North Carolina, 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.240 a Miami smart. Nothing like giving up picks for a 0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:39.040 running back. Dane nothing like it. Well, I mean I 0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:40.680 think there's a pretty big drop off. I mean, we 0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:43.920 you know, you think of Naja Harris, Travis etn and 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:45.560 then Javonte Williams, and then there's a little bit of 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:46.920 a drop off before you get to that next guy, 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:51.080 whether it's Gainwell or Michael Carter or Trey Sermon. So, uh, 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:54.840 but you're here, you're looking at Denver. Uh. They got 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.400 rid of who's our Colorado running back, your boy Philip Lindsay. Yeah, 0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.560 Philip Lindsay got rid of him. So you know they 0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:03.120 had a need there. Melvin Gordon really hasn't worked out 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:05.560 the way they thought, so I can understand why they 0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.240 want to get better running back. I'm gonna stand on 0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.080 the table for the old Krusties and say, that's a 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:14.480 small price to pay for a first round, arguably caliber 0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.360 running back, like a fourth round pick. Really, come on, 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.720 you're right, I've just swung so far on my pick, 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.520 just like it's possible to still think running back is 0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:27.760 a valuable position, like yeah, absolutely, And I get it, 0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.520 Like I running backs don't matter is more of a 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.440 catchphrase than anything, and I understand the logic of it. 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:34.920 I'd rather have a good one than a bad one. 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.240 If you told me if I can get Javonte Williams 0:30:38.280 --> 0:30:41.040 for a fourth round pick and steal him from Miami, 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:42.920 I'm I'm in if I if I need one obvious, 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:44.840 is there any chance that he's better than the guys 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:48.080 that were picked ahead of him at n He's not 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.160 the first person that suggested that. I mean, I'm just 0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.640 I but I have him behind the other two. Don't 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.400 get me wrong on that. I just wonder if that's 0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.200 one of those situations where this kid you watch him 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.760 play man, I mean, he he's pretty special carrying the ball. 0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.400 I think when you watch the way he goes down hill, 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.800 he attacks, he's a hard guy to tackle. I mean, 0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.520 guys bounce off him and stuff like that. So you know, 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.760 good for good for Denver to make that happen. They 0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:15.800 I mean, they go up and they steal the Cowboys 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:18.280 draft or at least early on and take Patrick's or 0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:20.360 ten at nine, and then they get Javonte Williams. Here 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.120 in the early parts, it's pretty good. One two punched 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.320 there a little bit impact on both sides of the 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.000 football for the Denver Broncos. Once again, it was two 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:30.560 nineteen that the Broncos got from Atlanta, and then it 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:34.240 was the fourth round pick that Atlanta received for Denver 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.640 that was at one fourteen, and now the Falcons will 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:41.560 pick a little bit further back at forty. So on 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.280 the clock. Now the Miami Dolphins, Dane, you said that 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:46.960 you thought it might have been Javonte Williams, the running 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.280 back going this direction. Where do they pivot too? Now? 0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.080 They really need a right tackle. Uh, you know Tevin Jenkins. 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.080 How do they feel about him? Could that be a 0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:58.760 fit here? That that's a possibility. They we talked about 0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:02.240 maybe going linebacker in the first round, so or Usukuromo. 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:03.800 I feel like we're gonna be naming a lot of 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.560 these same names as we go through here in the 0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.480 first half of the second round. Some of these talented players, 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.400 Uh that that could be there for them, not not 0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:17.040 cause me. Uh maybe Richie Grant. They can use more 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:21.600 safety help a Santy Samuel another corner. Can I ask 0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.880 you about cause me? When you got you see a 0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:27.920 knee bender there at all? I see a good I 0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:32.200 could see a good athlete. And that's thatcher. He's got 0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.560 a shorter armed guy, Okay, and that and that is 0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:38.400 something that you see for sure. Yeah, all right, he's 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.360 not a road. I appreciate you confirming my belief there. 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.200 Thank you for doing it. Who did we mocked to 0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.080 in our our mock draft? This was a Javante Williams 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:50.080 that we mocked to Miami here, so it could end 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.000 up being a tackled running backs pretty much off the table. 0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.320 It's the Dolphins, the Eagles, the Bengals than the Panthers. 0:32:56.360 --> 0:33:01.400 The next four picks. Oh that's wow. Holland safety out 0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.200 of Oregon as the selection for Jeff got real happy 0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.960 right there. Wow, I know wait, okay, which I know 0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.760 you're You're not the only person. You don't think he 0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:15.040 can cover? No, I think he can. I just like 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.479 other safeties better. And I kept hearing that the Cowboys 0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.959 were interested in Javon Holland and it was gonna it 0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.280 was gonna hurt me if they picked Javon Holland with 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.440 like Richie Grant. They want to believe me, we gotta 0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.680 fight on it before a show today. Well, no, because 0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:28.960 I felt like Brian was talking about Holland and I 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.719 was like, wait, you have Grant higher. But but I 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.400 was trying to I was, you're right. I was trying 0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.000 to tell you who I thought they were gonna take 0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:39.680 right and and I want the NFL to help them 0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:42.280 not take the guys I don't want them to take. 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.440 So I appreciate the Miami Dolphins doing that, just taking 0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:47.280 him off the table before you even have to make 0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.960 a decision. I think it's Jeff's cheering for I'm not 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.560 saying I'm here for me, Dave Javon. Holland's not my 0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.400 favorite player in this class, but I think I got 0:33:56.480 --> 0:33:59.040 so excited, like there's so much smoke that they might 0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.680 actually draft to say that. I'm just like, if you'll 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.480 just do it, I'll take what I can get. Did 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.720 you think, like if you're just willing to spend the pick, fine, 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.839 I don't care. Did you think Dallas like Holland over 0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.440 merrig Or Grant? I think Merik is their favorite. I 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.719 think they like I think they like talland more than 0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:18.920 they like Richie Grant. You think so? I mean, again, 0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.839 to Dane's point, we have fewer bet breadcump crumbs than 0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.640 we ever have. Let's get picked, then let's go ahead, 0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:29.960 and I mean to bring Richie Grant. I do like 0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:33.960 American Richie Grant. Are back to back is opening for 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.600 people to be gone. I always at the point of 0:34:36.600 --> 0:34:40.960 the draft, it's actually I don't want it actually happens 0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:42.839 in war rooms where you're like, oh, please let them 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.839 take that guy, let them tell oh, yes, okay, yeah 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:48.120 that was throw Oh no, a safety's gone, and you 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.360 fist pump your buddy under the table, like, not my safety, 0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.880 though I hope he has a great career, though, I 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:55.879 cheer for everybody. That's how we kind of that's how 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.200 we think of ourselves here is as a mini war room. 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.440 So there's a little bit of fist. I don't think 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.800 you're very good, but now that you're not my problem, 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.080 good Dane. Put him in order. Just your order, Richie, 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.880 Grant Mary and Holland right there. Okay, so we're fist bumping. 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:14.560 You say, Grant Mary Holland, that's my personal order. Yes, 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.239 I went, I went, Grant Holland, Holland, I went mine. 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:22.080 I'm gonna do my thing. But they're all the same, 0:35:22.160 --> 0:35:23.880 they're all in the same right there, they're on the 0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.799 same round. Has anybody like we've we've heard so many 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.160 links to Merrick, We've heard links to Holland. Do we 0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.800 have an inkling of an idea of what these guys 0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.880 think about Richie Grant. That's why they're gonna take it. 0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.239 I mean, I hope you're right. They only had one 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:39.640 zoom call with Michael Parsons and the head coach wasn't 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.640 on it, so who knows. That's not an Indica trying 0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:44.720 to reach out. I got a no comment on him Grant. Yeah, 0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.960 maybe that means they love him. Confirmed Lijah Molden at safety. 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:51.480 We got, we got some guys. We're creeping up on 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.200 forty four boys. We're doing great, So there are some 0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:57.200 really good players still available to hated Philadelphia Eagles are 0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.200 on the clock at the moment. We're gonna step aside 0:35:59.200 --> 0:36:01.760 with our second right. You're listening to the twenty twenty 0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:03.719 one NFL Draft on one on five three the Fan 0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:15.560 and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Clare I haven't heard clear yet. 0:36:15.640 --> 0:36:18.000 I'm gonna assume we're clear. I'm gonna assume we're clear. 0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.560 We're here always right now. We're killing it right now 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:24.120 about this. We're back on the internet side of things 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.040 in Javon Holland, just off the board to the Miami 0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.040 Dolphins at thirty six. At thirty seven, the Eagles than 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:34.200 the Bengals, than the Panthers, picking back to back to back. Eagles, 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.719 of course got their wide receivers, yet got got their 0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.600 wide receiver rather yesterday. Dane. Do you think there's a 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.600 chance that, uh, they go offensive side of the football 0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.359 here they go try and find one of those corners. Yeah, 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:46.960 we know they want to get better at corner, so 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:48.600 maybe this is where we start to see another one 0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.239 of those runs. But I don't have to go there. 0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:54.000 You know, they don't have to go corner when I 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.000 think that they feel like the whole board is open 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:59.000 to them. Creed Humphrey at center as a possibility here 0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:02.440 they could address the offensive line. They're always looking for 0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.319 pass rushers. I really think the Eagles are wide open 0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:07.319 with this pick. If it was if it was an 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.839 offensive lineman here, who do you think it would be? 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:14.120 Do you think it would be like Jenkins? Jenkins would 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.480 be my best Landon Dickerson? Why is he? Why is 0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:20.680 he still here? Dylan Redunds, Uh, Tevin Jenkins? What's going on? 0:37:21.960 --> 0:37:24.799 I know his shoulder was flagged and you know, just 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:30.480 uh some Scott's voice, some concerns about just uh, you know, 0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.319 him being good. No, more just football character stuff. Okay, okay, 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.920 leave it at that, all right? Too mean to people 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:41.560 on the fields. Just watching the tape, you wouldn't expect that, 0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.600 yahause he plays with his hair on fire, and you 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.680 know he's a he's a bully. Who's your top interior 0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:52.040 lineman right now? Why Davis Landon Dickers He's a first 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.439 round talent. It just comes down to the medicals and 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:59.240 are you comfortable with his injury history? But just based 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:03.200 on talent, based on character, easily landed Dickerson. He was 0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.399 like my number twenty one overall player. Can he play guard? Yeah? 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.799 Where I think he's best? Okay, And I think that 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:11.520 he should be in consideration for the Cowboys. When we 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:14.640 were competing with the Connors and with Beta, they didn't 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:16.920 want to take one the best guards last night. Yeah, 0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:19.440 well you know that Michael Parsons was at the top 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.920 of their board. That's true, number one overall player or whatever. 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.640 The only thing they actually tipped was when McCarthy said 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.160 that they wanted to draft an offensive lineman this weekend. 0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.320 So maybe you'll get your wish. Yeah maybe so. Landon 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.319 Dickerson is the only player in this draft who has 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:34.560 at least one start at all five offensive line positions 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.360 in college, and he's got to be one of the 0:38:36.400 --> 0:38:39.000 only guys in this draft who's had every college season 0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.960 end with the season ending injury. But I love, Yeah, 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.560 tape is awesome. His tape is awesome. I would love 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:52.040 to disagree with you. The Eagle selection is in it. 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.239 How about center Landed Dickerson out of Alabama. That's a 0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.000 really good pick. I think is he going to play 0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.160 center or guard for Philadelphia? We just talked about it 0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:02.840 and maybe he your guard. Yeah, well, when Kelsey retires, 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:04.200 you can move into I mean that's the beauty of 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.200 Landon Dickerson is you don't have to, you know, absolutely 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.400 put him here or there. He can play across the 0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:13.760 interior maybe. I mean he's six six three three twenty. 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.600 I mean he can play probably outside if you wanted 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.279 him too. They list him as a center. It looks 0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:19.120 like they're on the on the board. I think that's 0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:21.440 what he was officially listed as. Yeah, I'm sure, but 0:39:21.520 --> 0:39:23.560 like I said, he started all across the offensive line, 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.120 and I think he's actually best at guard. Not many 0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.279 six six centers in the NFL. It's kind of rare. 0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.840 It used to be a tall center was a bad center. 0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.479 It used to be that way because when you start 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:38.160 talking about like at least lineman getting underneath you and 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.200 stuff like that. But these these tall guys are playing 0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.520 pretty well. This This one's fun man because he's a 0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:47.000 bully too, Like Landon Dickerson might have had more cleanups 0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:49.359 than anybody else that I studied, where it's like it's 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:51.920 pass protection and if you're rushing against a guard but 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.960 there's nobody over the center, you should probably have your 0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.280 head on a swivel because you're about to get dump trucked. 0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.520 Like Landon Dickerson likes nothing better than to put you 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.880 on your hind quarters. So with Landon Dickerson here, the 0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.680 pick of Christian Barmore to the Cowboys at forty four 0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:09.319 is confirmed. Right, that's what's happening, because it's just gonna 0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.319 be like them practice to go against each other. I 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.440 was gonna, I mean, it's Tuscaloosa North up there in 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.719 Philly right now, and might as well. That's true. Back 0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:18.880 to back Alabama players going to Philadelphia in this draft. 0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.680 That's two really good picks for the Eagles, And I 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:23.960 hate saying that, I really do you didn't have to 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.239 say it. But there's a reason Dickerson felt a little 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:30.600 bit is because the injury history is vast, uh and 0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:33.160 that's something that will be uh, you know, something we 0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:34.759 have to watch and hopefully you can stay on the 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:36.879 field because he's just a good player and he's he's 0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:38.239 the type of player that you love to have on 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.480 your team, but you hate him when he's an opponent 0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.320 because he will just not let up. And the football 0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.040 intelligence is off the charts. So I got we we've 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.400 skipped over it. But New England has traded into this 0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:54.319 spot since he's fallen back to yeah, forty six, and 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.799 so New England's and I mean they already made their pick. 0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:00.400 So thirty eight overall is what New England gets. Sinnati 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:04.040 gets forty six and the fourth round picks one, twenty 0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.360 two and one thirty. That is not a lot for 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:10.600 an eight spot jump, by the way, your team's trying 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:17.200 to do it here back here at the twenty twenty 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.759 one NFL Draft Live from the Star here on one 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:22.120 O five three, the fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:23.920 We had a couple of picks come out across the 0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.000 board after Javon Holland flew off the board to Miami 0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:31.440 Landon Dickerson, the center slash offensive lineman out of Alabama, 0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:35.680 goes to Philadelphia as the Eagles take the second straight 0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:39.360 Alabama Crimson Tide player. And now the Bengals were originally 0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:42.560 on the clock, but instead the New England Patriots trade 0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:44.839 up with a couple of fourth round picks and they 0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:50.879 select Alabama defensive tackle Christian Barmore, another Cowboys target off 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.200 the board here over the last couple of minutes, Brian, 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.279 is that one hurt a little bit just because you 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.480 might have hoped he fell to forty four. I kind 0:41:57.480 --> 0:41:59.840 of heard you have to hold his hand as a player, 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.080 and there were some some things like that. You know, 0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:05.680 they have a big support staff there at Alabama, and 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:07.960 so he was a guy. Though they got him around, 0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.719 he wasn't a starter. You watch some tape at him, 0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:13.160 and he's not actually starting in the game. It's the 0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:15.719 last three or four games you watch. You're like, oh, 0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.800 that's this kid. Oh I get it now. So yeah, 0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:22.440 but you talk about Nick Saban has a great relationship 0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.239 with Bill Belichick, though they'll know all about the kid, 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.120 you know, and obviously New England feel like that they 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:31.120 can reach him. If he plays like he did those 0:42:31.200 --> 0:42:34.680 last several games, then the Patriots should look really smart here. 0:42:34.840 --> 0:42:37.160 This is oh sorry, he just a guy that hates 0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:39.279 to be blocked. I mean you watch him over the 0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.560 second half of the season, and just as the Ohio 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.200 State Notre Dame, the two teams at Alabama played in 0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.320 the playoff, a guy that was just unblockable at times. 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.480 And you know he was. He was my top defensive 0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.399 tackle in this in the summer, and it was all 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.920 based on traits because he, you know, was not a 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.239 full time starter. Yet in the first half of the year, 0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.200 you got I was kind of worried, like, Okay, this 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.120 does not look like the guy that I studied over 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.560 the summer, And in the back half of twenty twenty, 0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.400 he just turned it on and was unblockable. So a 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.200 really good player. And that's a great point with the 0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:13.080 save in Belichick connection the questions. Belichick made this move 0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:16.120 with the answers that he wanted to some of those questions, 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.759 and you know that the intel is good with that relationship. 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.440 This goes back to my point about Richie Grant, which 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.120 it's kind of subjective, but I haven't gotten the sense 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:28.000 recently maybe if he fell into their labs at forty four, 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:29.480 they would draft him. But I don't get the sense 0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.360 that this was like a guy that the Cowboys super coveted, 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.239 do you know? Yeah, I don't think, And I think 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:37.239 there are other d tackles they like a lot more 0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.520 that they could get later tonight or maybe tomorrow. Yeah, 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:42.840 you know, I would think, And it depends because I 0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:46.040 don't know exactly how they feel about a rotation of 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.279 Tristan Hill and Nevill gal More, but maybe they like that. 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.560 And if they do, then what you're really looking for 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.200 is I know, Barmore's three hundred and ten pounds, but 0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:57.200 to me, he's not a one technique. He's more of 0:43:57.239 --> 0:43:59.640 an attacker. At Alabama, they weren't putting him on the 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.240 field rundowns. They were putting him into rush the passer. 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.279 So I think, if I'm the Cowboys, I'll just watch 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:07.279 the defensive tackle thing play out and maybe, if you 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:10.960 like Levi owns Rique enough, you could pop him at 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.200 forty four. But I might just wait until later to 0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.000 try to get one of the big boys. I think 0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.080 they're looking for a trash can full of dirt to 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:22.239 steal Brian's favorite catchphrase. Great catchphrase though, there's a couple 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:24.680 of them in this draft. Though, I'll tear cans full 0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:26.919 of dirt. Yeah, that kid McNeil, he's breathing the same 0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:28.960 air as the center he's at close to. I mean, 0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:32.319 it's incredible how close he's. Super spreader. Event in there 0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:36.239 got the Bears drafting Tevin Jenkins. Who's That's who I 0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.239 had the Bears drafting in my final mock draft in 0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:41.120 the first round. So pretty good value here to get 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:42.879 him in a second. And you know, we just laid 0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:45.760 out the concerns with Tevin Jenkins. But on the field, 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.080 I mean usually when you hear blocked a guy off 0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.480 the screen, usually that's just kind of hyperbole. And you know, 0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.120 just to give you a visual, No, you watch watch 0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:58.000 him against Joseph Osai and he literally blocks him off 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.000 the screen. He's gonna be a plug and play right 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:02.759 tackle for the Bears. I'm such a sucker for a 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:05.839 pairing like you draft Justin Fields on Thursday and draft 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:08.160 this guy on Friday. I love that. Who took the 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:11.799 drafting away from Matt Naggie or from Ryan Pitt right, 0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.840 Like what I mean, it's like the Bears and the Jets. 0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.040 I love what they're doing, and I'm not used to 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:20.239 saying that changing narratives. I really wanted Tevin Jenkins to 0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.800 be a raven, but just well, because you know, you 0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.359 got a quarterback run threat. You're just doing so much 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:28.440 power and you just put Tevin Jenkins in there and 0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.759 you're like, hey, go move people, because that's the sort 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.359 of dude that he is where it's just like, yes, 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:34.200 I'm gonna beat you up and we're gonna go over 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.120 here for a while, and then I'm gonna meet you 0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:37.839 back at the line of scrimmage on the next play 0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:40.000 and we're gonna do it again. He's just he's so 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:44.120 much fun to watch. They traded up for Justin Fields 0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.640 in the first round and they were able to keep 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.160 the second round pick, and that was so big because 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:51.000 you're able to get a right tackle like this, who 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.320 you He's gonna be the starter in the season opener. 0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.719 So that was a really shrewd move by Ryan Pace, 0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.719 which are words I don't think I've ever said. Before. 0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:04.160 Oh shots, fine, talk get Fields? Is that what you're saying. 0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:06.120 I'm saying they went to go get Fields and they 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:07.840 didn't give up a second round pick, this pick that 0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:09.839 they're able to turn into Tevin Jenkins, which is an 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:12.400 impressive move. Now they gave up next year's one, obviously, 0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.080 but still, let me ask you this trying to save 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.920 your job? Is that is that is that when you're 0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.480 giving up next year's one and you're a general managers 0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:22.160 got wouldn't foot in the parking lot with the U 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.400 haul out there? You know? I saw one of the 0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:26.839 one of the big networks was talking about like this 0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.160 is the guy they love, this is they just felt 0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:31.680 a certain way about Justin Fields. I'm like, maybe, but also, 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.160 don't they know they're all fired if they don't hit 0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.920 on somebody else's fault or somebody else's problem. I saw 0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:39.040 that line from you last night. Yeah, by the way, 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:42.520 the Bears traded up for this picky to get in front, 0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:45.399 or they traded with Carolina to get this pick. I'm 0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.600 still looking for what the compensation was. Nobody actually assumed 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:52.240 talking about two and then something because that's where Chicago's 0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:54.880 where they were. So they've traded up twice. Now, they 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.359 traded up to get Justin Fields, and then, like Dane said, 0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:00.160 they didn't take their second round pick away that fifty two, 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.360 which is of course premium enough to get up and 0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:04.920 make a trade to get Tevin Jenkins. So all of 0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.040 a sudden, the Bears, after making the playoffs, now have 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:11.840 a seemingly found their quarterback, seemingly found their offensive tackle, 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.680 and at least at the moment, doesn't look like they've 0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:16.480 really given up a whole lot to do so. No, 0:47:16.800 --> 0:47:18.439 I know it sounds like I'm beating up Brian pace, 0:47:18.480 --> 0:47:20.360 but the reason the Bears are where they are is 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:22.440 because they've missed on a lot of those early picks. 0:47:22.520 --> 0:47:25.759 First round, second round, and you know time will tell, 0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.160 but it's justin fields and Tevin Jenkins could absolutely not 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:30.520 work out. But I think where we are right now, 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.920 there's at least some optimism with both of those selections. 0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:37.200 For Chicago. The Falcons pick is in. It's Falcons Lions, 0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:40.839 Giants forty nine ers and then the Dallas Cowboys at 0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:43.440 forty four. Goodell is at the stand right now. I'm 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.279 sure he's about to announce the Falcons selection after this. 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:49.080 I kind of want to get a heartbeat, kind of 0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.960 feel where we're standing whenever it comes to the Cowboys selection, 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:55.640 because I mean, we're getting down to the wires. It'll 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:58.640 probably happen close to the top of the hour, whenever 0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:01.680 the Cowboys selection comes down. And Goodelle taking his time 0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.560 at the stands here with the Falcon selection and he's clapping, Oh, 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:06.640 we're probably intro and somebody we're probably doing a bit. 0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:08.840 Oh you think so. We love doing the bits. We 0:48:08.960 --> 0:48:11.640 love doing the bits. Make the pick round, Well, it 0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.120 might be a round the way to these. It could 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.799 be for the first responders day. I run the risk 0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:19.399 of saying something insensitive, but I can't wait till it's 0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:25.240 like the end of the safety Richie Grant out of 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:28.399 the University of Central Florida goes off the board at 0:48:28.440 --> 0:48:32.759 forty and Atlanta breaks your heart again. That's okay. Now 0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:36.120 we're on travon merriag watch, because now they're thinning the 0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.239 herd on you. Now we're on merriage Watch. Can he 0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.680 slip four more spots? Or do you just wait a 0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:48.120 couple more rounds? Mighty mouse, let's look at it. Lea 0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:50.160 owns a reque still out there, and I think that's 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:51.960 a player. This team could be interested in a lot 0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.120 of tackles too, And could you be tempted by best 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:57.960 player available? Depending on the medicals on ja Oka orlry Right. 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:00.879 Only one corner off the boards so far in this round, 0:49:01.400 --> 0:49:04.400 being Tyson Campbell, So you know they've plenty of options 0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:06.600 here with which direction they want to go. That one 0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:09.680 hurts though, that that I mean, that was your top safety, 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:12.279 right Dane right brought us Richie Graham. Yeah he was, 0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:14.799 but I don't think there's a huge gap between him 0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:18.439 and marriage and even Holland. But yeah, Richie Grant could 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:20.319 just do everything on the football field. He's an old 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:22.960 man though he'll be retired in four years. People harp 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:27.040 on the twenty four years old. But listen, Terence Newman, 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.160 he played like Hill. He was fifty sacks. I think 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:30.640 it means he's ready to come in, step in from 0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:33.640 day one and make an impact. So he is a 0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.840 good player, uh and he might not be elite in 0:49:35.880 --> 0:49:38.759 anyone area, but he's pretty good across the board. And 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:41.120 those type of types of guys usually stay in the 0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:44.680 NFL for a long time. And which we I know, Jeff, 0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:46.839 it's all about you, I get it. Well, No, it's 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.040 not all about me. It's all about me and you 0:49:49.360 --> 0:49:52.160 and Dane and Brian Kyle. It's not about Dallas. This 0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:56.600 this hurts It hurts me because I think he's he's yeah, 0:49:56.640 --> 0:49:58.960 he's top five for me, like maybe Jay Okay, I 0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.680 like him betterbody, he's one my faves. But I don't 0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:03.920 think Dallas felt that way, at least not as strongly. 0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:06.920 I think they like Travan Merrick better. Yeah, so what 0:50:06.960 --> 0:50:08.600 are you doing doing the me thing? You should be 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:10.759 happy about this. This doesn't hurt you. This is fine. 0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:12.799 The Cowboys didn't mind, dude, I mean it doesn't. It 0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:16.040 doesn't hurt me as much as I think it hurts you. No, 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.439 I'm okay over here, all right, we got a lot 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:22.120 of good football players day, and we're gonna work this out. 0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:24.120 It's gonna be fine. Yeah, I definitely think so as well. 0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.400 We're gonna go ahead and step aside because that Cowboys 0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:28.520 pick is going to be right up near the top 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:31.000 of the hour. We're gonna take our third break and 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.720 we're gonna come back. The Cowboys are just three picks 0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:36.600 away from their second selection in the NFL Draft. You're 0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:38.839 listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one 0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.640 oh five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:49.600 There we go, there's the clear back on the Internet 0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:52.440 side of things. Kyle Yomas, Jeff cabin All, Brian brought us, 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:57.000 Dane Brugler, and David Hellman here with you throughout the 0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:01.600 entire two hundred and fifty nine picks of the NFL draft. 0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:04.279 Lots going on here, gentleman Brian, Where do you think 0:51:04.280 --> 0:51:06.520 the Cowboys are looking right at this point? Yeah, I 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.360 think that this board has fallen. If if, in fact 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:12.879 that they like the TCU safety mark, I think that's 0:51:12.960 --> 0:51:16.600 the direction they're gonna go. You have to determine Okay 0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.479 on their board, and you guys rank him, how would 0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:25.400 you have him? Moulden, os Urique, and then maybe you 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:29.680 know Osai? How would you have those? I mean that 0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.200 seems like the names that we might be looking at 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:35.440 right now. How would you have those guys rank? I'm 0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:37.880 weird and Osai's the top one of those names, but 0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:39.680 I don't think he. I don't like the fit here. 0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:42.279 I think Marik would be the most likely fit. I 0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:45.279 like Marigan owned Zerick. Most of those two options of 0:51:45.280 --> 0:51:48.400 those names. Give me the names again, uh Marek, os 0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:53.479 Erricke Moulden, and then Osai Moulden would be my top 0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.640 one out of all of those. Actually, you would you 0:51:55.640 --> 0:52:01.640 play him at safety or corner for this team? Safe safety? Right? Yeah? 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:03.879 I think for this team's safe. See, this could be 0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:07.640 you remember Dan Quinn and his deal when he you know, 0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.360 and you know the Cowboys got the kid, now Kaze, 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.239 you know this Molden could be the guy that, all 0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:15.680 of a sudden is that slot corner type guy that 0:52:15.719 --> 0:52:18.239 you put at safety like he did with Kazi at 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:21.560 of San Diego State. So he's so easy to like 0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:23.600 as a player. Yeah, I mean it's one of those 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:26.839 He's not the biggest, he's not the fastest, but he 0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:30.680 is just a really good football player who understands what 0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.400 the offense is doing. And then his reaction quickness and 0:52:33.480 --> 0:52:36.400 his smarts that allows him to play in the slot, 0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:38.600 that allows him to Now he's a small margin for 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:41.000 error because he doesn't have that makeup speed or the 0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:43.719 length that you want, and he's pretty specific with how 0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:47.080 you're going to play him. But yeah, Elijah Molden is 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:48.759 just an easy player to like here in the second round. 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.240 By the way, while we also have a couple of moments, 0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:53.680 I'm going to get these live reads out of the way. 0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:57.440 Dallas Cowboys Football and Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Dance youth Camps 0:52:57.440 --> 0:53:00.239 are back this summer for athletes and dancers of all 0:53:00.280 --> 0:53:03.160 skill levels. Save twenty five dollars with early bird pricing 0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:07.120 now through May tenth. 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We haven't even gotten to talk 0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:42.840 to you guys about it a little bit, I know 0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:46.319 on the Dallas Cowboys side, not Millerite. Mill was great, 0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:49.120 that's always fantastic, But what about the Parsons pick? Just 0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:53.000 quick synopsis of what you thought overall the trade down 0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:57.680 the board. That's a big one too. Levion Serique defensive 0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:00.640 tackle out of Washington goes to Detroit at forty one. 0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:06.160 The Parsons thing. I didn't love the pick. I think 0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.839 for me, he was like the fifteenth or sixteenth best 0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.040 player in the draft. But part of that is because 0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:13.200 I ding you for being an off the ball linebacker 0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:15.560 and I think he has to develop. But as far 0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:18.560 as being a game wrecker moving forward, like he's got that. 0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.279 So the idea that you added a third round pick 0:54:21.320 --> 0:54:23.799 after being wiped out on your corners and ended up 0:54:24.400 --> 0:54:26.520 with a guy that I think can help you immediately 0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:29.120 with your run defense, I don't mind that adding the 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:33.680 third round pick to me made it palatable where okay, yeah, 0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:36.359 you know, when you start to look at the things 0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:38.600 that were so impressive about him is when he rushes 0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:41.359 the passer and how physical he could be and how 0:54:41.400 --> 0:54:43.840 he's and it's not the sideline to silence stuff, because 0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:46.480 I think that's really really good. But he could get 0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:50.520 sideways and downhill fast, and I think that, you know, 0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:52.880 and we've had an opportunity to talk to him with 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.239 the last couple of times, he's like, man, I'm just 0:54:55.360 --> 0:54:57.560 I'm just a natural football player. I'm just that's what 0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.239 I am. And you see some of that sometimes because 0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.680 you'll see him he feels like he's guessing at the play, 0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:05.800 but he's such a good athlete and so fast and 0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:08.560 powerful that he could get there when he makes like, 0:55:08.640 --> 0:55:10.680 oh I made a bad read here, but I'm gonna 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:13.080 go downhill. I think initially he's going to be a 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.200 guy that's gonna they're gonna use him to rush the passer, 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:17.279 and they're gonna start to give him some things that 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:21.399 you know that with from from Jalen Smith, and if 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.600 he could take some of the things over from Jalen Smith, 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:25.799 then you'll see him out there on that field. I 0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:27.960 hope he's out there all the time, and I hope 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.719 he gets to the quarterback often. That's what'll make me 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:33.080 feel good about that. Yeah, very much. So the pick 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:36.600 is in for Miami. Will address that and the Azerique 0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:39.600 pick whenever we get back on the radio side of things. 0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:00.359 Closing in on our number two of our Day two 0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:02.799 NFL Draft coverage here on one O five three The 0:56:02.800 --> 0:56:06.440 Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The Miami Dolphins just 0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:11.080 now selecting offensive tackle Liam Eikenberg out of Notre Dame. 0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:13.839 That back on the back end, excuse me of the 0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:17.800 Lions pick at forty one, as Levi owned Serike defensive 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:21.440 tackle out of Washington was taken, so it was Richie Grant, 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:25.480 Levi own Serike, Liam Eichenberg back to back to back picks. 0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:29.040 Right here before the Cowboys pick at forty one are 0:56:29.120 --> 0:56:32.040 the San Francisco forty nine ers Dan Brugler. The Raiders 0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.080 just traded up to number forty three, so they're on 0:56:34.120 --> 0:56:37.439 the clock now. The trades have been fascinating here. We've 0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:40.239 seen how many trades here in the second round. It's 0:56:40.360 --> 0:56:43.759 crazy and so interesting that we've seen the Raiders come 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:45.799 up here to forty three to get in front of 0:56:45.840 --> 0:56:49.720 the Cowboys. Who could that? Before? Could that? Before the final? 0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:53.560 What need did they fire? Safety? Top three? It could 0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:55.719 be is it a get in front of the cowboys 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:58.480 thing or a guy has fallen far enough thing? Because 0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.880 Jok is still there as well. I think you would 0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:05.000 and look, depending on where you're looking for your needs. 0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:08.279 I think that for Vegas, one of those is going 0:57:08.320 --> 0:57:11.120 to be safety. And so if you're if you're doing 0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:13.040 the same thing we've been doing, which is tracking them, 0:57:13.080 --> 0:57:16.760 go and you go, oh, Holland went, that's okay. Oh, 0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.200 Grant went, that's not good, and then you're down to 0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:21.960 marrig which I think a lot of boards would be 0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:26.560 that's clearly the best safety left. You could jump Dallas 0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:28.760 to go get them. I think that's what's happening here 0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:31.400 with Las Vegas. By the way, that the Raiders pick 0:57:31.480 --> 0:57:35.120 is in at forty three. The Cowboys at forty four 0:57:35.520 --> 0:57:37.400 want to reset things as we do head into our 0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:39.880 number two. Dame Burgler from the Athletic, We've got Brian 0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:42.120 brought us, Jeff cavan Off from one O five three 0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:44.960 the Fan, and then Dallas Cowboys dot COM's David Hellman. 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:48.440 I'm Kyle Yeoman's with you leading the group of analysts 0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:51.480 here and yeah, if it is Trayvon Marrick here, do 0:57:51.600 --> 0:57:54.960 the Cowboys think about even acquiring more picks or do 0:57:55.000 --> 0:57:57.480 you just stick in there and pick whoever's your best 0:57:57.520 --> 0:57:59.600 player on the board. Well, they'll pretend that that's exactly 0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.360 what they wanted, and no, I mean I think there 0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:04.720 will be Look, there's there's a lot of really good 0:58:04.760 --> 0:58:06.560 players left, and again we're gonna keep going back to 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:08.640 a couple of the same names. I think in Joka 0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:12.720 and Adularry as guys that who knows where that stops 0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:16.760 because who knows how teams feel about them exactly medically. 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:19.800 But if you if you lose marriage here, I think 0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:24.280 you've got a good group of corners. You've got three 0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:27.080 or four pass rushers that I think most teams are 0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:31.440 gonna like. You've got it. Man, If you would let 0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:33.960 me go wide receiver, I'd throw Rondale Moore at you. 0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:37.440 But you've got You've got a nice group of players 0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:41.240 where I think the Cowboys would probably stick there and 0:58:41.600 --> 0:58:44.600 pick their favorite corner. If I had to guess, who 0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:49.560 would those corners be, Yeah, for them, I'll guess that 0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:53.200 it would be between Well, maybe if you have Elijah 0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:55.760 Molden as a safety and you consider him, and then 0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:57.880 I'm just gonna go with the longer guys, So I 0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:00.400 would say Paulson Adibo and if he had to Metafon 0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:03.160 will what about Kelvin Joseph. I would love Kelvin Joseph. 0:59:03.240 --> 0:59:06.720 He's my favorite corner, remaining by far that he's my 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:10.200 favorite corner. I think Tyson Campbell was a guy they've 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.680 liked a lot. They really wanted him. Kelvin Joseph and 0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:15.479 i Fiatsu Malafon were both names that I think and 0:59:15.800 --> 0:59:17.760 these are again, these are guys that I think they 0:59:17.760 --> 0:59:20.720 were trading up to try to get and that goes back. 0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:23.200 Maybe they would have drafted or maybe they want a 0:59:23.280 --> 0:59:26.800 safety if it fell that way. Obviously we've seen this run. 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:30.240 If that doesn't work out for them, I wouldn't be 0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.080 surprised at all. I would love it if it was 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:34.720 Kelvin Joseph. I mean, you've got the wild card of 0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:37.440 you might just have to tell him Monday through Friday, like, hey, man, 0:59:37.440 --> 0:59:40.200 don't worry about coming in, just you know, meet us 0:59:40.200 --> 0:59:42.160 in the city, were playing, and let's play football. Because 0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:44.680 his two college coaching staffs didn't really want him around. 0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:47.240 But the dude can play football. Why didn't they want 0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:51.000 him around. I wasn't there, but Dane, you want to 0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:52.960 take a shot at explaining it. But I mean he 0:59:53.000 --> 0:59:55.080 transferred out of one place, and my understanding is when 0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.560 he opted out at the end of the year at Kentucky, 0:59:57.640 --> 0:59:59.880 the coaches were pretty happy about it. As you say, 1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:02.840 if you got to like get out of LSU, if 1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:05.280 if you gotta transfer out, then you must have done 1:00:05.320 --> 1:00:10.000 something wrong. No offense, guys, that is so true. Uh 1:00:10.160 --> 1:00:11.800 And then yeah, I mean it was to a point 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:15.120 where the effort level dropped and the coaches basically said, 1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:19.000 why don't you just stopped out? You know, it's just uh, 1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:21.000 I can't have you standing around out there. Let's just 1:00:21.320 --> 1:00:23.520 move on part ways and you know, it is what 1:00:23.560 --> 1:00:27.040 it is. It's a weird season. Um he Kelvin. Joseph 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:30.400 is not without his faults, but as a player, I 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:33.920 think he's really talented. His eye disciplines a little bit 1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:36.960 of a mess, but as a physical talent and athletic talent, 1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:40.760 he is outstanding. So it's at least at the moment, 1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:44.120 we're thinking it's down to Merrig and Joseph here, or 1:00:44.160 --> 1:00:46.600 maybe I'm saying Joseph, but that's who we would want 1:00:46.720 --> 1:00:49.880 right well, yeah, if we're looking at the okay, I 1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:55.640 mean if I would also throw in Boogie Basham, Joseph Osai, 1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:58.760 maybe even Ronnie Perkins. There's there's a lot of good 1:00:58.760 --> 1:01:01.160 players available. It's just see which one the Raiders take 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:04.080 off the board for you. And if it's Merrig, I 1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:05.960 do wonder do you guys think No matter what the 1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:10.960 Cowboys tell us that they got blindsided twice, yes, I 1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:12.840 don't think they'd admit it. I think they would say 1:01:12.880 --> 1:01:15.400 they tried to go up. Does this count is getting blindsided? 1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:17.240 If I think if you get jumped one pick before 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:18.760 you thought you were going to pick a guy, well, 1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:21.320 re safety's being off the board in the second round, 1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:27.560 and the moment Vegas looked or traded up, that was 1:01:27.640 --> 1:01:30.280 the name that like, Okay, they're coming up in front 1:01:30.280 --> 1:01:33.360 of the Cowboys for a reason, and Mary is that reason? 1:01:34.240 --> 1:01:36.800 Tell us about Trayvon Mary and what the Cowboys missed out. 1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:38.560 By the way, the Cowboys are on the clock here, 1:01:38.560 --> 1:01:42.040 they're presented by Miller Lite. So at forty four you 1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:44.760 lost a couple of your guys right up leading into it, 1:01:45.240 --> 1:01:46.880 and now you got a decision to make. But tell 1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:50.840 us about Trayvon Merrick really quickly. Dane Burglar Range you 1:01:50.840 --> 1:01:53.000 can play that single high role where he can play 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:56.760 either sideline, former wide receiver and corner in high school 1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:58.760 and you see that with the way he plays safety. 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:03.200 You know, obviously a local product here in DFW and 1:02:03.240 --> 1:02:05.960 a really good player. And it's you know, we'll never 1:02:06.040 --> 1:02:08.439 really know for sure if the Cowboys would have drafted 1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:10.600 him at forty four, but safe to say he was 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:13.760 on the short list of options. Brian, what do you 1:02:13.760 --> 1:02:16.680 think about marig and where did the Cowboys potentially go 1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:19.400 this direction? Yeah, I think, and I think Dane's got 1:02:19.400 --> 1:02:23.040 the player completely right. So you know there's like I say, 1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:25.720 could you go with the corner. That's something that they've 1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:29.120 talked about a bunch last night. You know, you're trying 1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:31.120 to maybe find a way. They said, heck we were 1:02:31.320 --> 1:02:33.400 if the quarter was on the board, we would take him. 1:02:33.400 --> 1:02:36.040 So I think they went into today with a plan 1:02:36.200 --> 1:02:39.600 of hey, let's go and get a quarter. They obviously 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:42.640 maybe Campbell was their guy. They backed out. Now they 1:02:42.680 --> 1:02:45.160 get down here. Joseph I think is a guy. Everything 1:02:45.160 --> 1:02:47.320 you guys were talking about with Joseph, I think is 1:02:47.640 --> 1:02:50.480 a really really good melofm Wu was an interesting guy 1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:53.440 too because how long he is Molden. I mean, he 1:02:53.440 --> 1:02:56.040 could play a couple of different spots. At least they 1:02:56.080 --> 1:02:58.960 have options here at corner, and I think that's the thing. 1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:01.480 Whichever one of those guys pick the most talented one 1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:06.560 is is Samuel to me, but he's the shortest. Joseph 1:03:06.640 --> 1:03:08.520 is the one. I think if you look at overall 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:11.080 how he could play man, he could he could be 1:03:11.120 --> 1:03:12.560 specially if you could get him to go in the 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:14.800 right right, and mister Drew Pearson going up to the 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:18.160 Oh he's back. Oh true is don't do anything wild, Drew. 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:20.120 You can't want up what you did. You say, Yeah, 1:03:20.120 --> 1:03:23.120 he can't talk a Hall of Famer now, so there's 1:03:23.120 --> 1:03:25.120 not as much anger in your heart. Like I think, 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:26.880 you just make the pick, we won't be able to 1:03:26.920 --> 1:03:30.600 hear it either, right, well, I just I think once 1:03:30.600 --> 1:03:32.919 you've given hat away, like it's not Philly, you won't 1:03:32.920 --> 1:03:34.919 be able to feed off the crowd you got into 1:03:34.920 --> 1:03:37.360 the Hall of Fames. He're a happier person. I think 1:03:37.400 --> 1:03:39.400 this is the time to just play it straight up 1:03:39.720 --> 1:03:42.160 and say, hi, everybody, I'm Drew Pearson. I'm a Hall 1:03:42.200 --> 1:03:44.840 of Famer. It's funny, actually that's the pick. Yep. They 1:03:44.920 --> 1:03:48.280 whenever Dallas came on the clock. Here no tray Von Merrick, 1:03:48.360 --> 1:03:52.080 no Richie Grant, couple of corners available. Drew Pearson announcing 1:03:52.080 --> 1:03:54.200 the pick. In the second round of the twenty twenty 1:03:54.200 --> 1:03:57.480 one NFL Draft, with pick number forty four, the Dallas 1:03:57.520 --> 1:04:03.520 Cowboys will select Let's go BPA take Joks player, figure 1:04:03.520 --> 1:04:06.440 out the medical later on as he's ager, Larry figure 1:04:06.440 --> 1:04:09.240 out the medical later and just give US one player 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:13.720 Best Player Available. Drew Pearson Hall of Fame Drew Pearson 1:04:13.920 --> 1:04:17.520 continuing to take his time. Look at Cleveland, man, that's 1:04:17.520 --> 1:04:21.040 a lot of peatile city. Fantastic. You like that city, Dane, 1:04:21.080 --> 1:04:23.120 It's beautiful thing. It's a decent city. That's the muni 1:04:23.120 --> 1:04:25.480 a lot right there. What's the muni? That's a golf 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:30.240 course and place. There's a look inside the war room, 1:04:30.280 --> 1:04:32.360 by the way, as the decision has already been made. 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:36.920 Drew Pearson's getting pumped. Is he's going fast? He is yelling, 1:04:37.000 --> 1:04:39.000 we don't need the volume up, no, if we can 1:04:39.080 --> 1:04:40.760 feel it for you can see the reaction in the 1:04:40.800 --> 1:04:42.360 war room with the cowboy. You look at the all 1:04:42.560 --> 1:04:45.480 they're all laughing. Mike McCarthy's kind of cringing a little bit. 1:04:45.520 --> 1:04:48.240 I think, well, that's because he's wearing a suit. I 1:04:48.600 --> 1:04:52.160 want to be in that Oh come on, you can 1:04:52.200 --> 1:04:53.800 tell every time he's at a bresser he didn't want 1:04:53.800 --> 1:04:55.800 to be in that sit. Does anybody like wearing a suit? 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:58.640 Come on? So here's the pick with the forty fourth selection, 1:04:58.680 --> 1:05:03.640 the Dallas Cowboys select. He's reading the card. I mean, 1:05:03.680 --> 1:05:06.800 we knew that, gracious, So he's selling some plumbing supplies 1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:15.400 to Kelvin Joseph. Let's go boss Man Fat. Boss Man Fat, 1:05:15.480 --> 1:05:17.960 first of all, is a great musician. Check out his 1:05:18.080 --> 1:05:20.680 YouTube channel. And on top of that, he is a 1:05:20.720 --> 1:05:23.760 heck of a corner. Six rap albums out there, Yeah, 1:05:23.840 --> 1:05:28.040 and they're all good and they get better. We do 1:05:28.080 --> 1:05:31.440 the interviews. You call him that when he when get 1:05:31.480 --> 1:05:33.040 them on the phone. Oh yeah, yeah, I'll say hi 1:05:33.120 --> 1:05:35.080 to boss Man Fat. No, he's I mean, I just 1:05:35.200 --> 1:05:37.960 I think that his tape was first round worthy, and 1:05:38.120 --> 1:05:40.600 I agree. You know, if you were if you were 1:05:40.600 --> 1:05:44.520 willing to or comfortable with um who he is and 1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:47.080 practice habits or whatever it was in college at both 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:49.400 LSU and Kentucky, that didn't seem to go over well 1:05:49.440 --> 1:05:53.120 with coaching staffs. That dude's a baller. So you didn't 1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:55.040 get to take your corner in the first round. So 1:05:55.080 --> 1:05:57.160 the Cowboys are doing the Blue Star Special thing where 1:05:57.160 --> 1:05:59.200 they're looking around the room and going, hey, that Kelvin 1:05:59.280 --> 1:06:02.080 Joseph's really good, and somebody else's like, right, but are 1:06:02.080 --> 1:06:04.200 we ready for the other stuff? And somebody goes, I 1:06:04.200 --> 1:06:05.800 don't care. We didn't get one in the first round. 1:06:05.840 --> 1:06:07.560 Let's take a first rounder in the second. So you 1:06:07.600 --> 1:06:10.520 get Kelvin Joseph. He's a dude, he is a good player. 1:06:10.960 --> 1:06:14.919 So I don't know how much I telegraphed it, but 1:06:15.200 --> 1:06:18.240 I had an inkling. I had an inkling this guy, 1:06:18.320 --> 1:06:20.160 this guy was on the short list of guys that 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:22.640 they were targeting. Great to Dave Elman because he did 1:06:22.760 --> 1:06:24.560 mention it to be before the we even went on 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:27.240 air that Kelvin Joseph was squarely on the radar. This 1:06:27.960 --> 1:06:30.640 guy was one of I think Travan Merrick was one 1:06:30.640 --> 1:06:34.880 of them. Maybe Richie Grant was one of them. Tyson 1:06:34.920 --> 1:06:37.400 Campbell was absolutely one of them. But Kelvin Joseph was 1:06:37.440 --> 1:06:40.080 on a short list of guys that they were targeting tonight. 1:06:40.240 --> 1:06:42.800 See Jacksonville helped you out, got Campbell out of the way, 1:06:42.920 --> 1:06:45.160 made you pick boss man fat, and you got the 1:06:45.200 --> 1:06:47.720 better player. So it's gonna be great. What I did was, Brian, 1:06:47.880 --> 1:06:50.040 you know this. You know we went to LSU twenty 1:06:50.120 --> 1:06:53.040 years apart. Sure, we got some friends down there. I 1:06:53.160 --> 1:06:57.600 did my diligence this morning, because you know, Kelvin played 1:06:57.720 --> 1:06:59.400 his first the first part of his career at LSU. 1:06:59.440 --> 1:07:03.680 So I called her everything everything y'all just said is 1:07:03.680 --> 1:07:06.000 is accurate. I do like he I think he's gonna 1:07:06.040 --> 1:07:09.000 need some help. I think this is a guy that 1:07:09.120 --> 1:07:11.520 has off the field interests and is an off the 1:07:11.560 --> 1:07:16.120 field focused player. He's got a budding rap career, if 1:07:16.120 --> 1:07:19.320 you want to call it that, boss man fat Um, 1:07:19.800 --> 1:07:22.240 you know, I don't you know you talk about see 1:07:22.280 --> 1:07:24.440 you said, don't worry about Monday to Friday. I think 1:07:24.480 --> 1:07:26.920 that is an absolutely awful idea. I think this is 1:07:26.960 --> 1:07:29.840 a guy Monday to Friday. You need to make sure 1:07:29.880 --> 1:07:32.000 he's in the building, looking at tape and doing the 1:07:32.000 --> 1:07:33.640 things that he needs to do well. I'm saying, his 1:07:33.720 --> 1:07:36.040 worst case, you just tell him, hey, you know what, 1:07:36.360 --> 1:07:37.880 I don't want to deal with all that. We'll just 1:07:37.880 --> 1:07:40.440 see you on game time. We'll point out who you're covering. 1:07:42.720 --> 1:07:46.960 A great idea. Everybody wins. Having said what I just said, 1:07:47.600 --> 1:07:50.000 you know you talked about LSU was you know, happy 1:07:50.040 --> 1:07:53.040 to see him go? That's not completely true. I got 1:07:53.200 --> 1:07:56.320 good reviews back. Like everybody in the program over there 1:07:56.560 --> 1:08:00.280 likes Kelvin Joseph like said, he's a hard worker and 1:08:00.360 --> 1:08:03.520 a good kid, like all around, like not not a 1:08:03.880 --> 1:08:05.280 you know, for lack of a better word, like not 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:07.720 a scumbag. He's not a criminal. Yeah, he's He's not 1:08:07.760 --> 1:08:11.880 a bad person. He just probably needs some help prioritizing 1:08:11.960 --> 1:08:15.600 football among other interests in his life. So I'm just 1:08:15.760 --> 1:08:17.960 I dug around a little bit this morning when I 1:08:18.000 --> 1:08:20.360 had an idea that he might become a Cowboy, and 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:23.320 I felt better about it once I got done doing that. 1:08:23.439 --> 1:08:26.120 I do he comes with some challenges that I think 1:08:26.120 --> 1:08:27.840 the Cowboys are going to have to be on top of. 1:08:28.720 --> 1:08:32.360 But it's a it. Like I said, I heard good 1:08:32.400 --> 1:08:34.479 things back and just talking about the type of person 1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:36.519 that he is. He has more rap albums than he 1:08:36.560 --> 1:08:39.840 does career interceptions, like it's just one of those things 1:08:39.920 --> 1:08:43.639 that everybody rap albums and any of the corners picked 1:08:43.640 --> 1:08:50.479 in the top ten, you know albums. He's not a 1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:54.280 guy that's talent wise you're worried about. It's just, yeah, 1:08:54.280 --> 1:08:59.360 everything that Dave said very eloquently, thank you. It's he's 1:08:59.360 --> 1:09:01.559 a good player, and so you know he's gonna come 1:09:01.600 --> 1:09:04.880 in and compete for a starting job right away. By 1:09:04.880 --> 1:09:07.760 the way, the Jaguars at forty five took Walker, a 1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:11.880 little offensive tackle out of Stanford, So the Cowboys get 1:09:11.920 --> 1:09:15.360 their linebacker in round number one, to twelve, and then 1:09:15.360 --> 1:09:17.800 at forty four they go with Kelvin Joseph Corner out 1:09:17.840 --> 1:09:20.280 of Kentucky. Those are the first two picks out of 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:23.559 eleven slated for the Cowboys. What's next? Though? You got 1:09:23.560 --> 1:09:26.360 your Corner out of the way, Seemingly you hope that 1:09:26.360 --> 1:09:28.720 he could potentially come in and be a sort of 1:09:28.760 --> 1:09:30.640 by the way, I mean, Dave, you said that you 1:09:30.720 --> 1:09:34.479 kind of mentioned it how he was telegraphed by this 1:09:34.560 --> 1:09:37.080 coaching stafford, by this front office of maybe being on 1:09:37.120 --> 1:09:40.080 that like on that target list short lived. I don't 1:09:40.120 --> 1:09:43.440 think they telegraphed it. I was trying not to telegraph 1:09:43.520 --> 1:09:45.519 it because you never know what's going to happen. But 1:09:45.560 --> 1:09:47.559 I just I had an idea you had in England, 1:09:47.640 --> 1:09:50.040 being decent at my job, that it might happen. But 1:09:50.160 --> 1:09:52.880 you remember back whenever we were talking about Pro Days 1:09:52.920 --> 1:09:54.920 and where Mike McCarthy was going to Pro Days. Didn't 1:09:54.920 --> 1:09:57.600 Mike McCarthy go to Lexington? Didn't he go to the 1:09:57.640 --> 1:10:01.080 Kentucky protect me on the spot. I actually don't know. Yeah, 1:10:01.120 --> 1:10:02.680 I want to say, yeah, Kyle, he was all up 1:10:02.680 --> 1:10:06.280 in there. I was studying. I at least I'm not 1:10:06.880 --> 1:10:08.640 exactly man that's how you tell it. That's how you 1:10:08.680 --> 1:10:11.200 don't telegraph it. You don't put the coach or the 1:10:11.280 --> 1:10:14.840 DC on the zoo call. Know we know Jeff, Jeff 1:10:14.880 --> 1:10:17.160 loves it, which is fine. What do you what do you? 1:10:17.320 --> 1:10:19.040 What do you think about this pick? Brian No, I'm 1:10:19.200 --> 1:10:21.439 I'm totally okay with this, and I think Jeff is 1:10:21.479 --> 1:10:23.639 absolutely right about it. I think this guy's got first 1:10:23.720 --> 1:10:26.080 round traits all over him. And this guy will line 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:28.519 up on both sides of the field. He'll cover in 1:10:28.560 --> 1:10:30.879 the slot. I don't think he's afraid as a tackler. 1:10:30.880 --> 1:10:33.240 There's several times where he came forward to get his 1:10:33.280 --> 1:10:36.720 man on the ground. Again, his numbers won't show a 1:10:36.840 --> 1:10:39.360 high volume there, but the effort is really really good. 1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:41.439 I think he physically, like we're talking about, he looks 1:10:41.520 --> 1:10:44.240 the part and he'll cover the best guy. Now, the 1:10:44.240 --> 1:10:47.120 problem he'll run into is like and everybody happened the 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:49.559 sec he had to carry Kyle Pitts one time and 1:10:49.680 --> 1:10:51.439 Pitts took him on a double move that was a 1:10:51.479 --> 1:10:54.960 seventy yard touchdown. So you know to me, but that 1:10:54.960 --> 1:10:57.519 that happens. This guy's a smooth player. He could turn, 1:10:57.640 --> 1:10:59.960 he could run he has no issues there. The law 1:11:00.000 --> 1:11:02.720 long speed's really good, He's able to carry some receivers. 1:11:03.200 --> 1:11:05.599 I thought, you know, other than the one time with Pits, 1:11:05.640 --> 1:11:08.439 but I was pretty impressed by this guy. I really was. 1:11:08.520 --> 1:11:10.800 I'm sorry that he left LSU, but I'm glad he 1:11:10.800 --> 1:11:13.360 found him some opportunities to play there in Lexington. You know, 1:11:13.439 --> 1:11:16.280 we talk about a lot. I think during the draft 1:11:16.320 --> 1:11:18.800 process about Rashaan Slater in the tape that he put 1:11:18.880 --> 1:11:22.520 up when he was blocking Chase Young and how impressive 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:25.240 that is. I don't think I saw anybody cover Heisman 1:11:25.280 --> 1:11:28.880 Trophy winner DeVante Smith better than Kelvin Joseph did so. 1:11:28.880 --> 1:11:32.000 So if you wanted interception against him, yeah, he battled 1:11:32.120 --> 1:11:34.559 Kyle Pits pretty well. Pit's got him. Yeah, he got 1:11:34.640 --> 1:11:38.080 him on an outside stand. He broke inside everybody though, 1:11:38.160 --> 1:11:40.760 so you know it's it's uh, but I thought for 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:45.439 the most part he fared pretty well. Now, what's the 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:48.720 next need? By the way, Bengals at forty six take 1:11:48.800 --> 1:11:52.639 tackle Jackson Carmen out of Clempson. He's from the Cincinnati area. 1:11:52.800 --> 1:11:54.920 Is he really? Is that a bit of a reach there? 1:11:55.200 --> 1:11:58.920 I kind of had a third. I think it's more 1:11:58.960 --> 1:12:03.080 about who they drafted him in front of. Well, because 1:12:03.120 --> 1:12:04.639 I think he's playing guard. I don't think they draft 1:12:04.720 --> 1:12:07.120 him as a tackle. Fair, So you know you're drafting 1:12:07.200 --> 1:12:12.800 him in front of what Creed Humphrey, Quinn, Miners, Josh Myers, 1:12:13.479 --> 1:12:18.600 Davis Mayfield. You know, I think based off of what 1:12:18.680 --> 1:12:20.679 we thought of him. Yeah, a little bit of a reach. 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:22.640 But the Bengals don't care what we think. That's a 1:12:22.680 --> 1:12:26.040 good point they should though, right, Jeff, No, no, no, 1:12:26.040 --> 1:12:28.120 no, no no. Team shouldn't care what we think, but we 1:12:28.200 --> 1:12:30.600 shouldn't care what teams think. You know, you got to 1:12:30.640 --> 1:12:33.000 stay true to you, Kyle. Okay, I'm trying, I'm learning. 1:12:33.040 --> 1:12:34.519 I'm only in year two of this. Yeah, if the 1:12:34.560 --> 1:12:36.360 Cowboys draft a guy with their next pick that you 1:12:36.400 --> 1:12:38.559 have graded in the fifth, what you do is you 1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:41.720 say that was a terrible pick, and then you know, 1:12:41.760 --> 1:12:43.400 the Cowboys will say, well, this is what we thought 1:12:43.400 --> 1:12:45.840 of him, and we had professional scouts in a front office, 1:12:45.880 --> 1:12:47.400 and you're like, yeah, but I got a laptop and 1:12:47.400 --> 1:12:49.719 some all twenty two and you stick to your guns 1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:52.320 and you say, hey, great pick on Kelvin Joseph, bad 1:12:52.400 --> 1:12:53.880 job on this one. Look, this is this is a 1:12:53.920 --> 1:12:58.000 tough question. But if you had a rank Michael Parsons 1:12:58.000 --> 1:13:03.559 and Kelvin Joseph strictly on talent, nothing else, like not 1:13:03.680 --> 1:13:07.240 take even like technique out of it, the technical side 1:13:07.240 --> 1:13:09.559 of the game, off the field, medicals, all that, take 1:13:09.600 --> 1:13:14.839 it off. Just pure talent. Michael Parsons, Kelvin Joseph top fifteen, 1:13:14.920 --> 1:13:16.880 both of them. I was gonna say, top twenty. Yeah, 1:13:16.880 --> 1:13:18.760 I mean, yeah, I think they're that's fair to say. 1:13:18.880 --> 1:13:21.040 It's really exciting for me to hear that. That's a 1:13:21.120 --> 1:13:23.800 really interesting way to look at these two picks. Can 1:13:23.840 --> 1:13:26.240 I can I? Can I take another direction? What do 1:13:26.240 --> 1:13:29.160 you got? What if I told you could have Slater 1:13:29.280 --> 1:13:33.400 or in Bolton as your two picks, you would do this? 1:13:33.560 --> 1:13:36.120 Could I do Slater and boss Man? Fat? Yeah? Can 1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:38.760 I have just slap idea? I'm just the fact that 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:41.680 they took a linebacker. That's why I threw him in there. Oh, 1:13:41.720 --> 1:13:43.240 I just I would take it this way. That's how 1:13:43.320 --> 1:13:45.960 much I like Joseph. Oh I love Joseph. I'm just saying, 1:13:45.960 --> 1:13:48.360 though I love this is what is slate? What would 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:51.800 Slater at Bolton do to your attitude right now? About 1:13:51.800 --> 1:13:56.160 this draft? For the cowboys. I think. I like, so 1:13:56.920 --> 1:13:58.800 let's go ahead and stop step aside for just a 1:13:58.800 --> 1:14:01.000 couple of seconds, because we do have the newest Dallas 1:14:01.040 --> 1:14:04.439 Cowboy on the phone is Kelvin. Joseph Corner out of 1:14:04.560 --> 1:14:08.320 Kentucky is on the line, and Kelvin, first off, congratulations, 1:14:08.320 --> 1:14:10.479 you're the newest Dallas cowboy. What's going through your head 1:14:10.560 --> 1:14:15.840 right now? Thank you? I'm just I'm just blessed right now. 1:14:15.880 --> 1:14:19.600 I'm just living a moment, thank you God and so 1:14:20.040 --> 1:14:23.120 and then joining with my family. It's been a long road, 1:14:23.200 --> 1:14:29.519 long journey, and I'm just thankful that Dallas believing. Hey, Calvin, congratulations, man. 1:14:29.520 --> 1:14:31.599 I'm just I'm curious. You know, there was a lot 1:14:31.600 --> 1:14:33.639 of speculation that you could be a first round pick. 1:14:33.680 --> 1:14:35.479 It's obviously it's a bit of a weight from the 1:14:35.560 --> 1:14:38.559 end of last night to now. What was what was 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:41.320 today like? And were you were you hearing anything? Did 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:43.280 you have any inkling of how this could shake out 1:14:43.320 --> 1:14:48.920 for you? They it was It was kind of it 1:14:49.040 --> 1:14:50.960 was kind of crazy, like kind of over and down. 1:14:51.040 --> 1:14:53.920 I started all over like a smile on my Facebook 1:14:53.960 --> 1:14:56.160 to to drive. Once it started, I got kind of 1:14:56.880 --> 1:14:59.120 you know, you'll feelings get kind of down a little bit, 1:14:59.160 --> 1:15:01.439 but I just say faith that I was gonna get 1:15:01.439 --> 1:15:05.760 called today and pretty good about it. And and right 1:15:05.800 --> 1:15:09.040 now I'm I'm just thinking my lucky don't and folds 1:15:09.240 --> 1:15:12.800 just just because a lot of friends, a lot of 1:15:12.960 --> 1:15:16.640 way where he's saying the tay lju and just I 1:15:16.760 --> 1:15:19.639 knew like that what sold I was gonna get kicked, 1:15:20.479 --> 1:15:26.920 and it happened. And God it's boss Man Fat aka 1:15:27.120 --> 1:15:28.880 Kelvin Joe. Way to be the other way around, Kelvin 1:15:28.960 --> 1:15:32.120 Joseph aka boss Man Fat with us here, Um, what 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:34.960 was it like with the Cowboys leading up to the draft? 1:15:35.520 --> 1:15:37.439 How much interest did they show in you? Who did 1:15:37.479 --> 1:15:42.160 you talk to? All those things? Child boys? Child boys 1:15:42.200 --> 1:15:44.760 showed a lot of interest. I talked to like the 1:15:45.000 --> 1:15:48.840 time staff, just from the doctors to the coaches to 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:52.320 GM own us. I talked to everybody that And once 1:15:52.400 --> 1:15:55.080 I went to in the athletes, I talked to the doctor. 1:15:55.160 --> 1:15:58.679 We had like two two conversations and I was telling 1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:01.680 them I'm like, bro, I hope y'all draft me for 1:16:01.800 --> 1:16:05.160 real and he lade the hand. But like that was 1:16:05.200 --> 1:16:08.240 just a conversation behind closed. Like I wanted to go 1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:12.720 to the caliboy. Yeah, and they had a lot of 1:16:12.760 --> 1:16:16.400 INSes in me, and I'm pascious for it. Boss Man. 1:16:16.600 --> 1:16:20.000 We're going into the studio tonight to drop an album. Here, 1:16:20.040 --> 1:16:21.840 there's something we got. We got some tunes in heart. 1:16:21.880 --> 1:16:26.240 We're right there. We're feeling it right now. I'm feeling 1:16:26.320 --> 1:16:30.280 it right now. But no, just and it was right now. 1:16:30.320 --> 1:16:32.479 I'm just gonna enjoy them over with our family and 1:16:33.160 --> 1:16:35.120 get ready to go to Dallas. They put put their 1:16:35.240 --> 1:16:38.320 rook can Hey, Calvin real quick. I mean yeah, I 1:16:38.439 --> 1:16:40.639 know you want to, you know, get off and celebrate 1:16:40.680 --> 1:16:43.040 and have a great night. But obviously spent a long 1:16:43.120 --> 1:16:45.960 time in the SEC. You're coming to Dallas where you 1:16:46.040 --> 1:16:48.400 know your partner at cornerback is another SEC guy in 1:16:48.439 --> 1:16:50.680 Trayvon Diggs. Do you do you know him at all? 1:16:50.720 --> 1:16:52.360 Do you have a relationship. You're gonna reach out to 1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:56.639 him just out of curiosity. I'm gonna I'm gonna definitely 1:16:56.680 --> 1:16:59.880 reach out to Just studying his game and just going 1:17:00.000 --> 1:17:04.000 and this whole processes of the NFL colonists in league 1:17:04.040 --> 1:17:07.840 right now, the pro days and stuff like that, and 1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:11.280 knowing his abilities that he can do. He was very 1:17:11.439 --> 1:17:16.200 versatile from receival to to dB. I know you can 1:17:16.280 --> 1:17:18.599 put me on a lot of different tips and plus 1:17:18.640 --> 1:17:21.679 his big other stuff from the dnique. So I'm pretty 1:17:21.760 --> 1:17:25.800 sure just from little Footwirth and big two different techniques. Right, 1:17:26.280 --> 1:17:29.719 we're gonna show clique so we can be drums. Kelvin, 1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:34.519 Joseph Knewest Dallas Cowboy and cornerback out of Kentucky, picked 1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:36.920 at number forty four. Calvin, thanks so much for taking 1:17:37.000 --> 1:17:38.760 some time to talk to us. We look forward to 1:17:38.800 --> 1:17:42.840 talking with you down the road. Yes, thank you, thank 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:48.439 you'll congrats man, congratulations Kelvin, and thanks again of course, Calvin, 1:17:48.560 --> 1:17:51.400 Joseph and all of these draft prospects brought to you 1:17:51.560 --> 1:17:54.800 by Miller Litte. Initial thoughts, Brian, I'll tell you what though, 1:17:54.840 --> 1:17:58.040 I mean, hey, it's uh, yeah, he seems like a kid. 1:17:58.240 --> 1:18:00.960 It's well, seems they talk about the journie. Yeah, they 1:18:01.080 --> 1:18:03.080 talk about the journey here, and you know, and he 1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:05.880 seems like he's he's just glad the journey's over. You know. 1:18:06.000 --> 1:18:07.960 He seems like to me, man, there's a lot going on, 1:18:08.200 --> 1:18:10.960 and but he's one of those guys said hey, let's 1:18:11.040 --> 1:18:12.760 you know, come in here, let's do some work and 1:18:13.360 --> 1:18:15.320 you know, he's got, like Dave was talking, a lot 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:17.800 of interest going on outside. But that's okay with me. 1:18:18.040 --> 1:18:19.880 Just go out there and play football on Sunday and 1:18:20.479 --> 1:18:22.519 you'll be just fine. Well, we'll see what happens. I'm 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:24.160 not I'm not saying he's gonna be a pro bowler, 1:18:24.240 --> 1:18:27.760 but it doesn't sit right with me. Always when having 1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:30.320 a life outside of football makes you a bad person. 1:18:31.840 --> 1:18:35.000 But you know, I also trust again, you know, a 1:18:35.120 --> 1:18:37.240 Jeff's point, it's been a long journey, you go through 1:18:37.280 --> 1:18:40.800 two college programs. I think it's understandable that questions get 1:18:40.840 --> 1:18:42.920 asked when you're going to invest the top fifty pick. 1:18:43.000 --> 1:18:45.800 And uh, you know, I'm encouraged to hear that the 1:18:45.840 --> 1:18:48.160 Cowboys have talked to him through this entire process, and 1:18:48.479 --> 1:18:51.160 you know, hopefully they've got their hands around this situation. 1:18:51.320 --> 1:18:53.840 And if they do, I think this could be a 1:18:53.880 --> 1:18:56.280 hell of a pick. Had a bit of a relationship 1:18:56.320 --> 1:18:59.240 already formed with him throughout the process. Let's take our 1:18:59.479 --> 1:19:02.040 first break year of our number two. You're listening to 1:19:02.160 --> 1:19:04.200 the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on a one oh 1:19:04.280 --> 1:19:09.240 five three the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Back 1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:11.439 here on the internet, side of things, And Jeff, I 1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:13.639 wanted to hear your thoughts on on boss Man Fat 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:16.280 aka Kelvin Joseph or the other way around whatever it 1:19:16.400 --> 1:19:20.000 ended up being. Right, He's awesome. Yeah, Kelvin Joseph is awesome. 1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:23.960 I think if you didn't have the questions and the 1:19:24.040 --> 1:19:26.200 things that we I don't know all the details on 1:19:26.280 --> 1:19:28.080 in terms of how it ended form at LSU and 1:19:28.160 --> 1:19:32.040 how to inform at Kentucky, then I think on tape 1:19:32.080 --> 1:19:35.559 a loan it would be Horn, Certan Newsome and Kelvin Joseph. 1:19:35.840 --> 1:19:38.920 It wouldn't have been Horn and cer Tan and then 1:19:39.080 --> 1:19:41.719 Newsome and then your group of second round corners. Kelvin 1:19:41.840 --> 1:19:44.040 Joseph is in that group of guys. Wow. So just 1:19:44.160 --> 1:19:47.160 to me, that's that's the talent that you got. And 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:50.920 as Brian tells me, as the great, as Jim Garrett says, 1:19:51.040 --> 1:19:53.160 Jim Garrett says it, it ain't the boy scouts. YE 1:19:53.400 --> 1:19:55.320 find the talented players and let's see if we can 1:19:55.360 --> 1:19:57.640 figure this out. And Kelvin Joseph's super talented. Well, if 1:19:57.640 --> 1:20:00.439 you're going into this draft as the cow Boys and 1:20:00.520 --> 1:20:03.320 you say we need some edge on defense, we need 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:06.160 we need some edgy guys. We need some attitude. Dan, 1:20:06.280 --> 1:20:08.840 They've done that back to back picks. I mean, both 1:20:08.960 --> 1:20:11.120 of the guys that they've selected, both Kelvin Joseph and 1:20:11.160 --> 1:20:13.519 Michael Parsons are going to bring that fire, bring that edge, 1:20:13.520 --> 1:20:16.640 that aggressiveness that you seemingly have been missing on that 1:20:16.720 --> 1:20:19.160 side of the ball. And plenty of talent. I mean, 1:20:19.360 --> 1:20:22.560 that's that's the thing that matters more than anything. And so, 1:20:23.840 --> 1:20:26.479 you know, it's really interesting. I wondered how teams are 1:20:26.520 --> 1:20:29.280 going to attack this year when you don't have the 1:20:29.360 --> 1:20:32.760 thirty visits, the facility visits, you don't have the one 1:20:32.800 --> 1:20:35.720 on one contact that the combine even pro days, you 1:20:35.840 --> 1:20:39.760 can't you know, have the interaction. So with less opportunities 1:20:39.800 --> 1:20:41.960 to get to know these guys, was that going to 1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:45.120 lead teams to be a little more conservative? Well not 1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:48.200 the cowboys. They effect apparently got the answers they wanted 1:20:48.240 --> 1:20:50.800 to hear about, you know, both of their picks and 1:20:51.360 --> 1:20:54.680 trust their trusting the talent and you know, time will 1:20:54.680 --> 1:20:57.400 tell it plays out. By the way, the last couple 1:20:57.479 --> 1:21:01.280 of picks, Aaron Banks goes forty he ate overall to 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:05.120 San Francisco, the guard out of Notre Dame and then 1:21:05.120 --> 1:21:07.080 the pick prior to that, I mean, the Cowboys already 1:21:07.080 --> 1:21:11.320 got their corner. But Asante Samuel, junior cornerback of Florida State, 1:21:11.400 --> 1:21:14.240 goes number forty seven to the Chargers. In Brian, I 1:21:14.320 --> 1:21:16.559 know you had a pretty high grade on mister Samuel. 1:21:16.920 --> 1:21:19.240 I did. And if you want to talk about the 1:21:19.400 --> 1:21:23.040 corners that might have the best skill in the draft. 1:21:23.200 --> 1:21:25.760 Just like his dad, this kid, he is his the 1:21:26.040 --> 1:21:29.760 feat the way he competes. He's just short. That's the 1:21:29.920 --> 1:21:32.040 only thing that you can knock on this kid, because 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:34.599 he'll give you everything he has. I love the way 1:21:34.600 --> 1:21:37.240 he stays in position, the way he takes routes. He 1:21:37.840 --> 1:21:39.720 when he when he's on you, he is not going 1:21:39.760 --> 1:21:42.799 to go away. And I love I love the footwear. 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:45.240 I mean when they get him in camp and the OTAs, 1:21:45.520 --> 1:21:47.600 when we're all those guys out there evaluating how the 1:21:47.640 --> 1:21:50.080 players look in shorts and T shirts, I guarantee you 1:21:50.160 --> 1:21:51.800 he will be the best looking one out there. And 1:21:51.880 --> 1:21:54.040 then he'll put the pads on him and he'll start 1:21:54.080 --> 1:21:56.519 to go make plays. That that is a that's a 1:21:56.640 --> 1:21:59.240 really really good pick by the Chargers. Chargers having a 1:21:59.320 --> 1:22:02.920 good picks Charners are like, I need to leave Cincinnati 1:22:02.960 --> 1:22:05.760 and go work for the Chargers because I'm gosh, no, 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:08.800 actually no, We're We're staying in Cincinnati because I was. 1:22:09.080 --> 1:22:11.680 I just wanted to shout out my AFC team for 1:22:11.840 --> 1:22:14.760 drafting some protection for Joe Burrow. They got they got 1:22:14.880 --> 1:22:17.599 Chase last night. Yeah, they trade back and get Jackson 1:22:17.680 --> 1:22:21.519 Carmen from Clemson tonight. Feeling feeling good about our dynasty 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:24.200 up in Cincinnati forming right now. I like, I like 1:22:24.360 --> 1:22:28.559 what I like. San Francisco just did a guard here. 1:22:28.720 --> 1:22:32.080 I mean this Daney, Am I right about this? Errand Banks? 1:22:32.120 --> 1:22:33.720 I mean, I know there's a lot of people that 1:22:33.800 --> 1:22:36.479 were talking about Trey Smith and all that stuff like that. 1:22:37.200 --> 1:22:40.840 This is a big, square, mean guy right there. And 1:22:41.040 --> 1:22:44.520 Notre Dame has done a great job of putting offensive 1:22:44.600 --> 1:22:48.000 lineman in the NFL and then having some success. And 1:22:48.600 --> 1:22:51.240 you know, I mean, massive guy. He's big, he's stick. 1:22:51.320 --> 1:22:53.400 I said, he's square. He looks good in his stance, 1:22:53.479 --> 1:22:56.280 powerful player. You know, he's not going to get knocked 1:22:56.360 --> 1:22:58.360 over or run over or any of that stuff. He's 1:22:58.400 --> 1:23:00.880 got that body type in the string to hold his ground. 1:23:00.960 --> 1:23:04.240 And I just love the way he keeps that defender 1:23:04.320 --> 1:23:06.320 along the line of scrimmage. He ain't gonna let you. 1:23:06.640 --> 1:23:08.400 He ain'tnna let you get away from him at all. 1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:19.519 The twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one oh five three, 1:23:19.600 --> 1:23:22.559 the Fan and Dallas Cowboys Dot Com rolls along Kyle 1:23:22.640 --> 1:23:26.160 Yeoman's Brian brought us Jeff Cavtall, Dame Burgler, and David 1:23:26.280 --> 1:23:29.040 Hellman couple more picks off the board. After the Cowboys 1:23:29.439 --> 1:23:32.559 select Kelvin Joseph Corner out of Kentucky. We heard from 1:23:32.600 --> 1:23:34.800 him a couple of moments ago. They select him at 1:23:34.840 --> 1:23:38.160 forty four. Following the Joseph pick, Walker Little goes to 1:23:38.240 --> 1:23:42.400 the Jags at forty five. Forty six, Cincinnati takes Jackson Carmen, 1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:46.320 offensive tackle out of Clemson. Asante Samuel Junior, the cornerback 1:23:46.400 --> 1:23:49.559 from Florida State, goes forty seven to the Los Angeles Chargers, 1:23:49.800 --> 1:23:52.040 and then the San Francisco forty nine ers come up 1:23:52.040 --> 1:23:55.680 and get Aaron Banks, offensive guard out of Notre Dame. 1:23:55.720 --> 1:23:58.599 In the most recent pick, Ron del Moore, wide receiver 1:23:58.720 --> 1:24:02.920 from Purdue. He joined DeAndre Hopkins, Larry Fitzgerald and company 1:24:03.040 --> 1:24:05.720 in Arizona. You like that pick, Bryan I do like 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:08.360 that pick. He was one of those guys. We have 1:24:08.479 --> 1:24:10.600 all those I had all the tiny guys like in 1:24:10.720 --> 1:24:14.400 one round, you know. And but I was really impressed. 1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:17.320 If you just said, Okay, we're gonna watch one tape 1:24:17.320 --> 1:24:19.680 of this guy and said, yeah it was. It was 1:24:19.720 --> 1:24:22.680 at Ohio Steak as a freshman as a freshman, and 1:24:22.760 --> 1:24:27.040 I'm like, he is wearing the Buckeyes out, and so yeah, 1:24:27.120 --> 1:24:30.320 I was. I was. I was super super impressed by him. 1:24:30.640 --> 1:24:32.160 He like I said, they did. I think they did 1:24:32.400 --> 1:24:35.280 a great job of getting him the ball and allowing 1:24:35.439 --> 1:24:39.040 him to make plays. They could throw him screens, swings, 1:24:39.240 --> 1:24:42.639 pop passes, it doesn't matter. He can make the defense 1:24:42.800 --> 1:24:45.559 pay if they don't get bodies to him quick enough 1:24:45.880 --> 1:24:48.439 because he's a nightmare defender, especially out of the slot. 1:24:48.920 --> 1:24:52.240 He could slow play a defender, then explode into the route. 1:24:52.560 --> 1:24:54.880 He sets up the defenders and it blows by him. 1:24:55.080 --> 1:24:58.280 His colleague, Carters, is play making ability, not a route runner. 1:24:58.520 --> 1:25:01.240 He also returns some kicks for you too, So nice 1:25:01.320 --> 1:25:05.519 pick right there by the Arizona Cardinals. He's a little limited, right, 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:07.160 as you said, in terms of his route tree and 1:25:07.200 --> 1:25:09.920 what you're gonna ask of him down the field. But yeah, 1:25:09.920 --> 1:25:13.120 I just manufactured touches for this guy. Yeah, and get 1:25:13.280 --> 1:25:15.599 the ball in his hands and let him create. He's short, 1:25:15.720 --> 1:25:18.160 but he's not small. I mean after the catch, that's 1:25:18.240 --> 1:25:22.200 his best quality with that athleticism, that run, toughness. One 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:24.479 of the biggest problems is we just haven't really seen 1:25:24.560 --> 1:25:26.800 him since he has an eighteen. Yeah, he missed a 1:25:27.040 --> 1:25:30.719 good chunk of these past two seasons. But a talent 1:25:30.800 --> 1:25:33.680 wise off the charts. That's this is gonna say. I'm 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:36.400 not hating on the guy. He's clearly he's clearly really talented. 1:25:36.439 --> 1:25:38.759 Sounds like you're hating on him. I'm just he single 1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:43.479 handedly destroyed Ohio State and then sort of disappeared because 1:25:43.520 --> 1:25:45.720 of injuries. Like it's not his fault, but I just 1:25:45.920 --> 1:25:48.479 feel like you got a glimpse of what he can do, 1:25:49.520 --> 1:25:52.000 but not a full picture. Yeah, and that scares me 1:25:52.120 --> 1:25:54.200 for a guy of that size. And to what Dane 1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:56.760 was saying as I'm watching him this year, and my 1:25:56.960 --> 1:26:00.600 guess would be, I don't know if produced quarterback is 1:26:00.640 --> 1:26:03.840 considered good, but holy cow, the number of times that 1:26:03.920 --> 1:26:08.120 the throws to Rondale Moore were like jet jet sweep 1:26:08.160 --> 1:26:11.840 action and behind the line and just try to get 1:26:11.880 --> 1:26:14.000 it to you in any way, shape or form. And 1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:15.920 so it's hard to get a feel for a guy 1:26:15.920 --> 1:26:17.559 as a route runner when it seems like the only 1:26:17.600 --> 1:26:19.080 way they could figure out to get him the ball 1:26:19.720 --> 1:26:22.400 was right around the line of scrimmage. Well, think about 1:26:22.439 --> 1:26:25.120 that Cardinals offense. You know they want to play multiple 1:26:25.280 --> 1:26:28.320 you know with Cliff Kingsbury, and a guy like Rondale 1:26:28.360 --> 1:26:31.040 Moore allows them to do that with just the way 1:26:31.120 --> 1:26:33.360 that you line them up, and it's going to force 1:26:33.439 --> 1:26:36.759 the defense to, uh, you know, really show their cards 1:26:36.960 --> 1:26:43.960 and change their personnel cards. Cardinal's a good one. That's funny. 1:26:44.720 --> 1:26:46.760 So yeah, look this is a good pick. I know 1:26:46.840 --> 1:26:49.200 there are several teams picking here in the fifties that 1:26:49.400 --> 1:26:51.559 are not happy to see rondeal More off the board 1:26:51.600 --> 1:26:54.320 here New York is coming up to fifty or were 1:26:54.360 --> 1:26:59.160 they already there is already the Miami trade. Well, punch 1:26:59.240 --> 1:27:01.240 me in the face, then how about that we could 1:27:01.280 --> 1:27:02.920 do that day three? Yeah, I was about to say it. 1:27:03.040 --> 1:27:05.160 Rather now we got a long way to go. So 1:27:05.800 --> 1:27:07.600 Rondel Moore off the board. I kind of want to 1:27:07.640 --> 1:27:10.719 reset things for the Cowboys because you got your linebacker, 1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:13.679 You got your corner. What's next where the needs lie? 1:27:13.760 --> 1:27:16.439 Because you have three picks coming up in that third 1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:18.160 round and they're going to be back to back to 1:27:18.200 --> 1:27:21.479 back really quick. What are you doing here? Spare me 1:27:21.600 --> 1:27:23.960 the handwringing about how you feel about the picks, because 1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:27.120 they're done. They've been made, so they're here. Parsons and 1:27:27.680 --> 1:27:30.120 Kelvin Joseph are here. But if you just again, going 1:27:30.160 --> 1:27:32.360 back to my whole thing of like it was, it 1:27:32.600 --> 1:27:34.840 was a four pick jigsaw puzzle and now it's a 1:27:34.880 --> 1:27:38.000 five pick jigsaw puzzle. Two of the two of the 1:27:38.080 --> 1:27:40.880 biggest concerns have been checked. And I know, I mean, 1:27:40.960 --> 1:27:44.240 that's not necessarily the number one priority, but those were 1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:46.360 probably the two big things I thought they needed to do. 1:27:46.560 --> 1:27:49.519 And it was weird getting there. I don't think anybody 1:27:49.600 --> 1:27:52.680 saw any of this coming, but they did it. And 1:27:52.920 --> 1:27:55.360 they've done a nice job of adjusting when they have too, 1:27:55.600 --> 1:27:58.560 because they Jeff said it initially is the fact that 1:27:58.640 --> 1:28:01.280 they got wiped out pretty much twice already. They got 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:03.000 wiped out of safety and they got wiped out of 1:28:03.040 --> 1:28:05.439 the cornerbacks in the first round. Well the second time, 1:28:05.600 --> 1:28:07.920 Thank goodness. I love that they got wiped out, brought 1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:11.599 as key to have a project for you. Pick ninety 1:28:11.680 --> 1:28:17.120 nine and pick seventy five. Where would that get you? Try? Ye? 1:28:17.520 --> 1:28:18.880 See where that gets us? Are you trying to get 1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:20.479 a safety? Who are you trying to go? I just 1:28:20.600 --> 1:28:21.920 I want to see just what it would take to 1:28:21.960 --> 1:28:23.640 get back in the second round. Yeah. I don't know 1:28:23.680 --> 1:28:25.280 that they want to pick three players there. I think 1:28:25.280 --> 1:28:28.320 they want to pick two guys they really want instead 1:28:28.360 --> 1:28:31.640 of I definitely I understand that. But I'm just so 1:28:31.880 --> 1:28:34.479 all right all that which bums me out because all 1:28:34.479 --> 1:28:37.200 the linebackers I love, I assume are off the you know, 1:28:37.320 --> 1:28:40.000 the Jabril Coxes of the world and Baron Browning's. They're 1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:42.519 not going to draft those guys now probably maybe probably 1:28:42.840 --> 1:28:45.519 they got their cornerback. Okay, but let's talk about who 1:28:45.560 --> 1:28:48.759 you doing the trade for? Maybe a tackle Milton Williams. 1:28:49.040 --> 1:28:52.000 You could get to Kansas City at fifty eight. Okay, 1:28:52.240 --> 1:28:54.640 that's soon? Yeah, yeah, that you get real quick? What 1:28:54.720 --> 1:29:01.960 about what about an edge bash them? Yeah? Larie of 1:29:02.080 --> 1:29:05.720 course breaks my heart. Tell me two gas, give me 1:29:05.760 --> 1:29:07.240 two of those picks and then go up and go 1:29:07.360 --> 1:29:10.519 get Carlos basham. If you could get bash them there. 1:29:10.520 --> 1:29:14.240 I wouldn't be mad about it at all. Packager, package 1:29:14.280 --> 1:29:17.000 your late third with your early third, come back into 1:29:17.040 --> 1:29:20.400 the second, get one of those defensive linemen. You still 1:29:20.439 --> 1:29:22.800 got a third to play with later on. I don't 1:29:22.840 --> 1:29:24.519 hate the idea at all. I guess I spent I 1:29:24.600 --> 1:29:26.640 spent all day today thinking like they got to go 1:29:26.760 --> 1:29:29.479 up to get their corner they didn't, and and all 1:29:29.560 --> 1:29:31.840 the safeties I love. I guess Elijah Molden is still there. 1:29:31.880 --> 1:29:33.960 I would love to have him. Some teams will think 1:29:33.960 --> 1:29:36.679 a debo might be a safety, so maybe a corner 1:29:36.800 --> 1:29:40.439 is still alive that could maybe play safety. Are there 1:29:40.479 --> 1:29:43.720 teams that think melofon Wu could play safety or our 1:29:43.760 --> 1:29:48.320 teams late Yeah? See, but Dane, even outside of maybe 1:29:48.360 --> 1:29:50.840 trading back up and I completely agree with your thought 1:29:50.880 --> 1:29:52.800 process here, But you could go the other way and say, 1:29:53.120 --> 1:29:55.720 there are a slew of really good players now that 1:29:55.760 --> 1:29:58.639 you got your corner need out of the way. Whatever 1:29:58.760 --> 1:30:02.599 the best player available is at seventy five, at eighty four, 1:30:02.760 --> 1:30:05.880 at ninety nine, you're gonna feel really good about what's 1:30:05.880 --> 1:30:07.840 going to be there, because I mean, we've already mentioned 1:30:07.880 --> 1:30:11.519 that a ton of names that could be there if 1:30:11.600 --> 1:30:13.200 there's a lot of names like that. There's going to 1:30:13.280 --> 1:30:15.720 be some some players at that point in the draft. Sure, 1:30:15.920 --> 1:30:17.200 And do you want to feel good? Do you want 1:30:17.240 --> 1:30:19.439 to feel great? See, that's where I'm at, And I 1:30:19.479 --> 1:30:20.920 think that's what you might be able to do if 1:30:20.920 --> 1:30:22.320 you make a little move here, and that's what you 1:30:22.600 --> 1:30:24.479 that's the fun with three third round picks like that. 1:30:24.680 --> 1:30:26.200 You know you can have some fun with it. If 1:30:26.240 --> 1:30:27.800 there is a guy out there now, we just don't 1:30:27.840 --> 1:30:31.040 know how they feel about Osai, how they feel about Basham, 1:30:31.720 --> 1:30:34.400 how they feel about some of these defensive linemen. Milton Williams, 1:30:34.479 --> 1:30:36.760 we know they like, but enough to make a move, 1:30:37.439 --> 1:30:40.519 who knows. So there goes one of your edges right there. Hey, 1:30:41.000 --> 1:30:43.240 that was with my mock draft. Oh, I don't like 1:30:43.360 --> 1:30:45.439 that at all. Dane is so good and I don't 1:30:45.479 --> 1:30:47.680 like it when in the division, the Giant's gonna get 1:30:47.760 --> 1:30:51.680 it edge Rusher Aziz Ojalari out of Georgia. They talked about, Hey, 1:30:51.880 --> 1:30:55.400 I was visiting with some Giants guys about this the 1:30:55.600 --> 1:30:59.400 night for this was a first round consideration for them. Wow. 1:30:59.640 --> 1:31:03.000 They were thinking defensive end and they were also thinking 1:31:03.080 --> 1:31:06.360 wide receiver. And I talked to a guy who said, listen, 1:31:06.439 --> 1:31:09.200 what do you know about Ojulari's knee? And I told him, 1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:12.000 And they were also thinking about Phillips Jail and Phillips 1:31:12.080 --> 1:31:13.920 from you know that went to the Dolphins. They tried 1:31:13.960 --> 1:31:15.840 to trade up for him. Yeah, so this is this 1:31:16.120 --> 1:31:17.840 is to me. This was a guy that all of 1:31:17.880 --> 1:31:20.479 a sudden, they're like, listen, we're thinking about him last night, 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:22.679 and now they get him in the second And maybe 1:31:22.680 --> 1:31:25.519 it has to do with the knee problems and stuff 1:31:25.560 --> 1:31:27.519 like that. Maybe that's something maybe a long term, but 1:31:28.360 --> 1:31:29.800 what a heck of a football player. I mean, I 1:31:30.000 --> 1:31:32.280 had a first round grade on him myself. If he's 1:31:32.320 --> 1:31:36.360 fully held, he's going top twenty. Yeah, I mean, he's 1:31:37.040 --> 1:31:40.000 he's such a unique talent, the athleticism, the instincts. He 1:31:40.040 --> 1:31:41.680 can play the round, can play the pass and for 1:31:41.760 --> 1:31:43.880 a guy that doesn't look very big, six two to 1:31:44.120 --> 1:31:46.200 fifty thirty four and a half inch arms, so he 1:31:46.240 --> 1:31:47.840 can set a hard edge. You know, he he can 1:31:47.960 --> 1:31:49.680 dip and rip. There's a lot of things you can 1:31:49.760 --> 1:31:53.280 do with him. My favorite plays from him. We're probably 1:31:53.360 --> 1:31:55.800 not rushing the passer, but you know how Alabama loves 1:31:55.800 --> 1:31:59.120 to pull their guards to block defensive ends. So he's 1:31:59.160 --> 1:32:02.120 got big old Tay Brown coming around the corner away 1:32:02.160 --> 1:32:05.240 and all of three fifty and he didn't move an 1:32:05.320 --> 1:32:09.080 inch like so like he's a really good pass rusher, 1:32:09.560 --> 1:32:11.479 but man, you got to have some power in your 1:32:11.520 --> 1:32:14.439 lower body to stop a three hundred and fifty pounder 1:32:14.479 --> 1:32:18.160 in his tracks, and Ojulari does that. Now you've got 1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:20.240 Washington on the clock. So if he wasn't going to 1:32:20.280 --> 1:32:23.080 go to New York, probably not going to land in 1:32:23.160 --> 1:32:25.920 Washington either. They've spent quite a bit on their front seven. 1:32:26.000 --> 1:32:28.559 So now what does Washington do? And back to back 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:32.200 Nfcast picks here Dane and the Inkling on what the 1:32:32.280 --> 1:32:35.840 football team could maybe look at after here? Tight end? 1:32:35.960 --> 1:32:38.679 Could we see uh like Brevin Jordan and Tommy Trumbull 1:32:38.680 --> 1:32:42.880 off the board, Pat Friarmouth, those those are options on offense. 1:32:42.920 --> 1:32:45.240 They love him, They want to get better at tight ends. 1:32:47.120 --> 1:32:48.680 Why would you try to set me up to talk 1:32:48.720 --> 1:32:50.960 bad about it again? I didn't know you're gonna do that, 1:32:50.960 --> 1:32:53.640 because it's easy. Friar Muth is an old school tight end, 1:32:54.000 --> 1:32:56.320 kind of doesn't get open and just kind of runs 1:32:56.360 --> 1:32:57.960 around and catches the ball when you throw it to 1:32:58.080 --> 1:33:00.679 him and what's stuff? What's the foot ball team? Take? 1:33:01.120 --> 1:33:04.559 Take more here? Yeah, it's gonna be ja okay, I'm 1:33:04.600 --> 1:33:09.519 ready for this. Oh, Samuels is all right? I like this. 1:33:10.280 --> 1:33:14.360 I like this Cosmi. So you don't like Cosmi, that's 1:33:14.360 --> 1:33:17.080 what I'm saying. He's with the football team now I 1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:21.040 like them. I think. I mean, he's a good player, dope, 1:33:21.080 --> 1:33:24.200 bend your knees very well, catch blockers, all right. This 1:33:24.360 --> 1:33:26.880 good athlete. Yeah, he's a really good athlete. If he's 1:33:26.920 --> 1:33:29.400 a great offensive like IM trying to say he's not 1:33:29.439 --> 1:33:31.920 a great offensive tackle. Yeah, I come from to Culton Miller, 1:33:32.240 --> 1:33:36.880 like right, and for three years he was awful. I was. 1:33:37.120 --> 1:33:38.960 He was the worst tackle in football for two years. 1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:41.280 But he developed I would do a good offensive tackle 1:33:41.400 --> 1:33:43.640 and that's okay. But what I saw from Cosmi is 1:33:43.640 --> 1:33:46.599 an incredible athlete that's not there yet as an offensive lineman, 1:33:46.720 --> 1:33:49.880 so like he could develop into something really good. Coulton 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:52.719 Miller was fifteenth overall. Like this is the second round 1:33:52.760 --> 1:33:54.519 if I mean, I feel okay about that. If he 1:33:54.640 --> 1:33:57.639 told me he's gonna about Brian who's just over here, straight, Haydon. 1:33:57.840 --> 1:34:00.400 Cosmi was my highest graded tackle left so if you 1:34:00.439 --> 1:34:02.160 were going to take a tackle, that was the guy 1:34:02.200 --> 1:34:03.960 to take. I'm just here to support Brian and all 1:34:04.000 --> 1:34:07.559 of his Hayden it's it's it's not hey, I'll be interested. 1:34:07.680 --> 1:34:10.320 This guy I don't know man Like I say, it's hard. 1:34:10.439 --> 1:34:12.519 He just kind of grabs on the people and tries 1:34:12.560 --> 1:34:14.680 to hold on. Didn't really bend all that well. So 1:34:15.280 --> 1:34:17.479 it'll be when you guys were watching training camp and 1:34:17.520 --> 1:34:19.880 he's getting run by, don't just remember your brother, Brian 1:34:20.120 --> 1:34:22.519 Brown straighter up here to fifty two? What are they 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:25.200 doing with the Panthers. They wanted to run down more? 1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:28.920 But now with him, this was Carolina's pick. Now gave 1:34:28.960 --> 1:34:33.679 this Carolina to Cleveland? Yes, all right, Carolina. Just teams 1:34:33.720 --> 1:34:36.559 in the league that might come take it from Cleveland. Well, okay, 1:34:37.280 --> 1:34:40.840 we're talking about Cleveland. One of the players at twenty six, 1:34:41.040 --> 1:34:43.960 not today, Jim Jeremiah, who's a Coromoa at twenty six. 1:34:44.000 --> 1:34:46.240 I think they would have considered him if Greig knew someone. 1:34:46.720 --> 1:34:49.280 Iaded to write coremore on my sheet right now, Dane, 1:34:49.880 --> 1:34:51.840 we'll find out in two minutes and fifty three seconds. 1:34:52.080 --> 1:34:53.840 You never I don't think you've ever missed a pick. 1:34:53.880 --> 1:34:56.360 Except for that stiff quarterback that they took at USC 1:34:56.520 --> 1:34:59.680 that one year. How dare you suggest that Dane liked 1:34:59.760 --> 1:35:01.360 that pick. I thought he was gonna cry in the 1:35:01.439 --> 1:35:09.720 studio checkdown nobody, Dane. Dane the only quarterback I've seen 1:35:09.840 --> 1:35:11.840 not try to win a game in college football. And 1:35:12.000 --> 1:35:14.040 that was that was in the middle. Those are the 1:35:14.120 --> 1:35:16.560 Sasha years when the Browns were just throwing darts and 1:35:16.880 --> 1:35:20.040 Dane just deflated. Like, remember I walked I remember I 1:35:20.120 --> 1:35:22.360 walked into the studio and I told Dane, Hey, they're 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:24.840 taking this quarterback for USC. Though they're not. I'm telling you, 1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:26.400 you're going to carry me the rest of that show. 1:35:26.600 --> 1:35:29.000 He was devastated. That was before we got a fine 1:35:29.040 --> 1:35:31.120 tuning on analytics and the Browns were like, man, what 1:35:31.240 --> 1:35:35.400 a sweet completion percentage will take him? He did? He 1:35:35.479 --> 1:35:38.160 completely took six minutes to get a touchdown in a 1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:40.640 two minute drive, is what he did. Yeah. I just 1:35:40.920 --> 1:35:44.479 irrationally hated him from that moment on. Yeah, I've never 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:47.240 written coward in my notes before, but on that one, 1:35:47.240 --> 1:35:50.120 I wrote, coward didn't try to win game, not for me. 1:35:50.880 --> 1:35:53.040 We're terrible at this, aren't we. Oh, the Browns have 1:35:53.120 --> 1:35:56.080 traded up with Carolina and Dane, you said, you think 1:35:56.120 --> 1:35:58.120 it's Jai Oka here right, Well, I know that was 1:35:58.160 --> 1:35:59.639 a player that they were going to consider it twenty 1:35:59.680 --> 1:36:01.600 six if Greg Newsom wasn't on the board. But the 1:36:01.760 --> 1:36:03.720 fact that he's still there at fifty two, you know, 1:36:03.800 --> 1:36:07.280 it's it's an interesting situation with him. Goodness. I mean, 1:36:07.320 --> 1:36:10.120 there's so many big name players that are still there, 1:36:10.240 --> 1:36:13.519 jok Joseph Facai, who we've talked about. If you also 1:36:13.680 --> 1:36:16.960 want to talk about the premium of what offensive tackles are, 1:36:17.439 --> 1:36:20.440 nine offensive tackles have gone in the first fifty one selections, 1:36:20.600 --> 1:36:22.880 and that's the most out of any other position in 1:36:23.000 --> 1:36:25.880 the draft so far. So if you talk about offensive tackle, 1:36:25.960 --> 1:36:28.640 that's certainly something that you could think about. Let's go 1:36:28.640 --> 1:36:31.440 ahead and take a break while the Browns are celebrating 1:36:31.479 --> 1:36:34.280 and there's plenty going on in Cleveland at the moment. 1:36:34.320 --> 1:36:36.840 You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL drafted on 1:36:36.960 --> 1:36:39.760 one oh five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 1:36:41.920 --> 1:36:44.760 Only we didn't actually go anywhere right here with you 1:36:44.880 --> 1:36:48.240 exactly right, all of you loyal listeners, which Dane Okay, 1:36:49.400 --> 1:36:51.840 oh yeah, it's right. Here next to me, buddy, Thanks man, 1:36:51.920 --> 1:36:56.240 here you go. Um yeah, I figured thanks for announcing. 1:36:56.680 --> 1:36:58.760 Everybody knows. Wash your hands, Dane. I got a great 1:36:58.840 --> 1:37:02.680 question for you from uh Twitter listener named John Um 1:37:02.880 --> 1:37:06.439 Which three names that I like? No? Not Johama showed though, 1:37:06.640 --> 1:37:09.360 just John shout out to Johnama showed though, dude. Three 1:37:09.439 --> 1:37:11.280 names that I like a lot. Who you know we're 1:37:11.280 --> 1:37:12.920 talking about, like who could they pick? Who could they 1:37:12.920 --> 1:37:15.400 maybe move around for? Three names that I like a 1:37:15.479 --> 1:37:17.559 lot that I think have a good shot to get 1:37:17.640 --> 1:37:23.519 drafted tonight. Jamar Johnson, Yeah, Ronnie Perkins, Divine Diablo. How 1:37:23.560 --> 1:37:25.560 do we feel about that? And tell me when you 1:37:25.720 --> 1:37:28.360 think first like would they be in the well? They 1:37:28.360 --> 1:37:31.200 would have to be arranged for some of these Cowboys picks, right. 1:37:31.560 --> 1:37:33.960 I think I think Perkins is going somewhere in that 1:37:34.120 --> 1:37:36.920 late two early three. So does he get to your 1:37:36.960 --> 1:37:39.000 first third round pick? I don't know. I think Jonnard 1:37:39.080 --> 1:37:42.639 Johnson's gonna be probably available for at least the first 1:37:42.680 --> 1:37:45.040 two picks in the third round. Yeah. He just he 1:37:45.120 --> 1:37:47.080 won't tackle, but he can cover. The thing is I 1:37:47.120 --> 1:37:50.040 got Johnson in the fourth. You talked about Diablo I 1:37:50.080 --> 1:37:52.800 had in the third. Yeah, and who is the other one, 1:37:53.080 --> 1:37:56.479 Ronnie Perkins? Perkins, Yeah, I have him in the third two. Yeah, 1:37:56.520 --> 1:37:58.519 I think he could go this round just because you know, 1:37:58.600 --> 1:38:02.040 past rush gets pushed up. But possibilities in a trade 1:38:02.080 --> 1:38:07.120 up situation, no doubt. Where would you draft Diablo early 1:38:07.240 --> 1:38:09.000 to mid third. I think that's probably where he's gonna 1:38:09.040 --> 1:38:10.640 end up going. Okay, that makes sense for him. I 1:38:10.640 --> 1:38:14.240 can live with that. Um, I don't, but I don't know. 1:38:14.360 --> 1:38:17.559 Diablo is more of a He's not a cover guy, right, Yeah. 1:38:17.840 --> 1:38:20.160 Teams look at him as almost like a linebacker's so 1:38:20.520 --> 1:38:23.000 and he's yeah, he's not. He's not probably what the 1:38:23.040 --> 1:38:24.880 Cowboys are looking for. But a lot of those guys 1:38:24.920 --> 1:38:27.120 are gone, right. I mean, you gotta do what you 1:38:27.200 --> 1:38:31.639 gotta do. By the way, the Browns at fifty two 1:38:31.960 --> 1:38:36.280 announcing their selection, and I have a really, really good 1:38:36.360 --> 1:38:39.320 feeling Dame Bugler's right about this one. I'm gonna love 1:38:39.360 --> 1:38:41.920 it if it's true. It might be if they were 1:38:41.960 --> 1:38:46.160 considering JEREMIAH'SU Cormo at twenty six. Oh man, what a 1:38:46.240 --> 1:38:48.000 pick this would be for the Browns. You can talk 1:38:48.040 --> 1:38:50.759 about that defense. The pick has been in for eighteen minutes. 1:38:50.800 --> 1:38:53.160 It really has and they're they've been making it for 1:38:53.320 --> 1:38:58.719 five It is jeremiahsu Cormo out of Notre Dame Dame Brugler. 1:38:58.920 --> 1:39:02.439 What you're scouting report? Uh? Well, is he going to 1:39:02.479 --> 1:39:04.680 be a safety or a linebacker for this team? Uh? 1:39:05.240 --> 1:39:11.720 That's the first question. Uh. Oh, I think he might 1:39:11.800 --> 1:39:14.360 be what they hoped you Bill Peppers would would have bet. Yeah, 1:39:14.439 --> 1:39:16.400 you know he's a better player than yeah. Yeah, I 1:39:16.479 --> 1:39:18.000 mean you could throw on the tape and see him 1:39:18.240 --> 1:39:21.160 blitzing off the edge. You could see him covering a 1:39:21.240 --> 1:39:23.479 slot receiver on the next play. Yeah, he could just 1:39:23.520 --> 1:39:26.880 do a little bit of everything. Now, he's still raw 1:39:26.960 --> 1:39:28.680 in some areas, but he is one of the most 1:39:28.760 --> 1:39:33.519 explosive players in this draft. And the medical stuff that 1:39:34.040 --> 1:39:35.920 Brian has mentioned is a little bit of an unknown 1:39:36.000 --> 1:39:38.960 right now. But just in terms of pure talent, I mean, geez, 1:39:39.040 --> 1:39:41.720 it's a it's a steal at this point, it's a 1:39:41.920 --> 1:39:44.880 huge steel. I mean, you talk about where Cleveland was 1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:47.040 in Dave, you and I talked about this off air, 1:39:47.200 --> 1:39:49.200 just how good of a situation the Browns are in 1:39:49.400 --> 1:39:52.040 as a roster and how many different directions you can go, 1:39:52.400 --> 1:39:54.479 even if there is a little bit of a medical 1:39:54.560 --> 1:39:57.360 concern with Jay. Okay, you take the risk here at 1:39:57.439 --> 1:39:59.559 fifty two to go and get a guy as talented 1:39:59.560 --> 1:40:01.479 as he is, or even if the concern is just 1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:03.720 like what do we do with him? Well, if you 1:40:03.800 --> 1:40:06.680 are out, yeah, exactly figure it out. See that's the 1:40:06.760 --> 1:40:09.360 problem that we've had with Remember the Simmons kid from 1:40:09.760 --> 1:40:12.400 Clemson last year. Yeah, you know, it's like such a 1:40:12.520 --> 1:40:16.479 good looking player. Gosh, the film is brilliant and he's running, 1:40:16.560 --> 1:40:18.439 he's tackling, he's in and then all of a sudden 1:40:18.479 --> 1:40:21.320 he gets the league and it's like is he a safety? 1:40:21.680 --> 1:40:24.800 Is he a slot player? Is he a linebacker? Is it? 1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:27.280 I mean it took him some time before they kind 1:40:27.280 --> 1:40:29.800 of tried to figure some things out with him. But 1:40:30.560 --> 1:40:32.439 I'll tell you what, man, this kid's a heck of 1:40:32.520 --> 1:40:34.880 a football player for more. I mean, it's a shame 1:40:35.040 --> 1:40:39.560 if the if the if the situation with the cardiac 1:40:39.760 --> 1:40:42.400 tests and stuff that they need the information, if that's 1:40:42.439 --> 1:40:45.640 what's holding him back in this thing, man, what what 1:40:45.840 --> 1:40:49.640 a shame that is? So obviously if that's Cleveland, they 1:40:50.040 --> 1:40:52.800 you know what Cleveland clinic, right, Dane, aren't we It's 1:40:52.800 --> 1:40:55.360 a shame. It's a shame for everybody for the Browns, 1:40:55.880 --> 1:40:58.160 you know, because they get a steal here if Yeah, no, 1:40:58.280 --> 1:41:00.960 what I'm saying though, I mean that's they've obviously got 1:41:01.120 --> 1:41:03.679 some information that and everyone else is trying to figure 1:41:03.720 --> 1:41:07.000 it out. This this guy's tape is so much fun 1:41:07.080 --> 1:41:10.200 to watch. You can watch both nominal those Clemson games 1:41:10.280 --> 1:41:12.920 and stuff like that that this cat runs and makes. 1:41:13.280 --> 1:41:15.679 He has a tackle in South been in that Clemson 1:41:15.720 --> 1:41:20.320 game where he strips the ball guy. Yeah, he tackles. Yeah, 1:41:20.360 --> 1:41:22.639 explain this to me, Like I'm five, and I'm gonna 1:41:22.680 --> 1:41:24.880 I'm gonna do that dumb thing where you compare an 1:41:24.920 --> 1:41:26.479 all pro to a guy that has n't played a 1:41:26.520 --> 1:41:30.080 snap yet, But like, why why can't he Why can't 1:41:30.080 --> 1:41:33.360 he be Jamal Adams? I mean I don't have a Yeah, 1:41:33.520 --> 1:41:35.240 I don't have a good answer. Why not Jamal Adams 1:41:35.280 --> 1:41:37.120 doesn't cover? That's not what he' that's not why you 1:41:37.200 --> 1:41:40.200 know he actually cover? Right? I don't get it. I 1:41:40.240 --> 1:41:55.120 don't get it. Jeremiah Wusu Coramoa is off the board 1:41:55.240 --> 1:41:58.800 the Cleveland Browns and fifty two overall select the Notre 1:41:58.880 --> 1:42:03.840 Dame linebacker slash safety slash defensive powerhouse I mean all 1:42:03.880 --> 1:42:06.320 around Dame Brugler. We were talking about it on the 1:42:06.360 --> 1:42:08.680 internet side of things, but this is just a fantastic 1:42:08.720 --> 1:42:11.600 pick for the Browns. My talk runs player available. He 1:42:11.760 --> 1:42:15.000 was my number fifteen overall player in the draft, so wow, 1:42:15.360 --> 1:42:18.360 not bad. He's really explosive. He's one of the most 1:42:18.400 --> 1:42:21.439 explosive defenders in this draft. Can cover. He might be 1:42:21.600 --> 1:42:25.040 the best Blitzer, not pass rusher, but Blitzer in this 1:42:25.280 --> 1:42:28.040 draft can play out in space. It's just you have 1:42:28.080 --> 1:42:30.599 to have a plan for him and in certain personnel packages, 1:42:31.320 --> 1:42:34.640 and so you have to kind of coordinate your defense accordingly. 1:42:35.240 --> 1:42:39.479 There are some medical questions, like like Brian mentioned that, 1:42:39.720 --> 1:42:41.479 just a little bit of an unknown right now. But 1:42:41.600 --> 1:42:43.599 at this point in the draft, outside the top fifty, 1:42:43.920 --> 1:42:46.200 heck of a value for the Browns. I just and 1:42:46.520 --> 1:42:49.479 nobody listening to this doesn't like the draft, but people 1:42:49.600 --> 1:42:52.280 mock the draft and like, oh, nobody actually knows anything. Well, 1:42:52.600 --> 1:42:55.240 the Browns were the worst roster in football for most 1:42:55.280 --> 1:42:57.840 of the last decade, and right now they're one of 1:42:57.920 --> 1:43:01.639 the three best. Like topped bottom. Just hard to find 1:43:01.680 --> 1:43:03.840 a weakness with what they got going on there, and 1:43:04.000 --> 1:43:06.400 that allows them if there are questions about the medicals 1:43:06.439 --> 1:43:08.320 that allows them to take a chance on a guy 1:43:08.439 --> 1:43:10.960 like this who is super talented. You just might not 1:43:11.120 --> 1:43:13.680 have all of the information, and so that's what you 1:43:13.800 --> 1:43:15.439 try to do. You try to fill out your roster 1:43:15.840 --> 1:43:18.920 so you can take swings on good players, talented players 1:43:18.960 --> 1:43:21.120 who might have a few question marks. By the way, 1:43:21.160 --> 1:43:25.639 the Titans take tackle Dylan Redunce out of North Dakota State, 1:43:25.800 --> 1:43:29.280 second North Dakota State player, taking of course, Trey Lance 1:43:29.320 --> 1:43:33.240 goes number three overall to the San Francisco forty nine ers. Brian, 1:43:33.280 --> 1:43:36.280 I know you were really high on him early on, right, 1:43:36.439 --> 1:43:38.200 I mean you were quick to Redunce and what he 1:43:38.280 --> 1:43:40.600 brought to the table. Yeah, I sure was. And you know, 1:43:40.800 --> 1:43:44.080 and again you're the tape. I mean that program up 1:43:44.120 --> 1:43:46.400 there at heck Dane will tell you that they make 1:43:46.439 --> 1:43:49.400 a living down here now North Dakota State and the 1:43:49.479 --> 1:43:51.559 way that they the way they show up in these 1:43:51.960 --> 1:43:55.360 these championship games and stuff like that. But I was 1:43:55.439 --> 1:44:00.080 really I was suppressed. He's undersized weight wise, but it 1:44:00.080 --> 1:44:02.200 allows him to play light on his feet and this 1:44:02.439 --> 1:44:05.519 movement is outstanding. I don't see he wasted steps with him. 1:44:05.640 --> 1:44:07.880 He could get on his guy quickly he comes off 1:44:07.920 --> 1:44:11.200 the ball, he climbs that guy and he's but I think, 1:44:11.280 --> 1:44:13.759 you know, he's much better than the guys he's playing against. 1:44:14.479 --> 1:44:17.280 But you know that's not his fault. I mean the shield, 1:44:17.439 --> 1:44:20.200 the angle, the dry block. He could get movement, but 1:44:20.320 --> 1:44:22.559 when he gets to this guy, it's over. I mean, 1:44:22.840 --> 1:44:24.920 like I say, the fluid, the way he moves from 1:44:24.920 --> 1:44:26.960 the live scrimmage to ease all that stuff, the base 1:44:27.080 --> 1:44:30.599 body control. This guy doesn't play hurried at all. I mean, 1:44:30.720 --> 1:44:34.840 everything is very controlled, very measured. But he has had 1:44:34.840 --> 1:44:36.599 ability to kind of sit down on you and take 1:44:36.640 --> 1:44:39.080 you out of the play. So I like with the 1:44:39.280 --> 1:44:41.719 I like the pick here for the with the Titans, 1:44:42.000 --> 1:44:44.479 they had need a right tackle and this guy's a 1:44:44.560 --> 1:44:47.760 glass eater. Uh you know, he is a guy that's saying, 1:44:47.960 --> 1:44:50.519 oh the toughness. He is one of the meanest guys 1:44:50.560 --> 1:44:54.839 in the draft, nasty player. After the Isaiah Wilson debacle 1:44:54.960 --> 1:44:57.360 last year, the Titans drafted him to play right tackle. 1:44:58.320 --> 1:45:00.800 They go with the guy that's a complete opposite in 1:45:00.920 --> 1:45:03.840 terms of, you know, the football character and things like that. So, uh, 1:45:04.000 --> 1:45:06.559 you know, I think that we're gonna say Raydon's step 1:45:06.640 --> 1:45:08.760 in pretty quickly and be the right tackle for the 1:45:08.800 --> 1:45:11.120 Titans towards a c l early in his red shirt 1:45:11.200 --> 1:45:14.120 freshman year, started every game since, So if you have 1:45:14.160 --> 1:45:17.040 an injury issue, don't because he started every game after that. 1:45:17.479 --> 1:45:19.280 And then he arrived at North Dakota State at only 1:45:19.320 --> 1:45:21.639 two hundred and sixty five pounds beefed up to three 1:45:21.760 --> 1:45:24.920 h four. Is that right day? Yep? Well, he actually 1:45:25.479 --> 1:45:29.759 got offers from Missouri and some from some Power five teams, 1:45:30.200 --> 1:45:33.000 but he stayed loyal to North Dakota State, who were 1:45:33.040 --> 1:45:35.439 on him early and stayed with him the entire way 1:45:35.640 --> 1:45:38.479 instead of bolting on signing day. He stayed true. And 1:45:38.560 --> 1:45:40.400 so there's something to be said about that. I want 1:45:40.439 --> 1:45:43.479 to go win some rings, you should probably go play Bison, right, 1:45:43.720 --> 1:45:47.360 you know, I mean it's it's it's Alabama and it's 1:45:47.360 --> 1:45:49.080 North Dakota State. You're probably gonna end up with a 1:45:49.160 --> 1:45:51.760 ring two or three. They play here in Frisco a 1:45:51.840 --> 1:45:54.840 lot too, by the which I believe it's Bison, not 1:45:54.960 --> 1:45:57.599 to be that. Excuse me, sorry, I got my Texan 1:45:57.760 --> 1:46:00.600 and which gets me being that, by no know, if 1:46:00.640 --> 1:46:05.719 you're ever in Frisco like out and about. But there's 1:46:05.760 --> 1:46:07.640 so many Suddenly there's a weight at a bar that 1:46:07.720 --> 1:46:09.880 you used to walking right into, and it just like, guy, 1:46:09.920 --> 1:46:11.600 it's come on with all the green. I used to 1:46:11.760 --> 1:46:13.960 I used to live right over by scruffy Duffies. They 1:46:14.000 --> 1:46:16.479 were there all the time. Shouts out to the Bison. Yeah, 1:46:16.840 --> 1:46:20.400 the Bison, like almost with a z. Yeah, Bison. It 1:46:20.439 --> 1:46:23.120 looks like it's like Green Bay or something with all 1:46:23.160 --> 1:46:26.400 the green. And that's true. Hey, they like the yellow. 1:46:26.479 --> 1:46:29.120 I'm green up north a little bit. Indianapolis is on 1:46:29.200 --> 1:46:33.360 the clock at fifty four. I mean, still plenty of 1:46:33.760 --> 1:46:36.240 spots to go until the Cowboys start thinking about their 1:46:36.360 --> 1:46:39.439 next three picks seventy five, eighty four, the pick in 1:46:39.560 --> 1:46:42.840 which they got for trading back to Micah Parsons at twelve, 1:46:42.920 --> 1:46:44.640 and then they've got ninety nine coming up in the 1:46:44.720 --> 1:46:47.519 third round as well. I know we don't cover the Colts, 1:46:47.680 --> 1:46:51.000 but I thought it was really weird that they passed 1:46:51.040 --> 1:46:53.360 on in an opportunity to draft a really good offensive 1:46:53.400 --> 1:46:55.800 tackle last night. Was there a really good offensive tackle there? 1:46:55.920 --> 1:46:58.920 Derrisau was still there, was he not? Yeah? He was? Um, 1:46:59.520 --> 1:47:02.400 that's that's fair. I don't know that they obviously, we 1:47:02.439 --> 1:47:06.320 don't know if they thought good. Yeah, good point. So 1:47:07.120 --> 1:47:10.120 but with with Costanzo retiring, I know it's never as 1:47:10.160 --> 1:47:13.040 simple as just connecting the dots, but probably want a 1:47:13.080 --> 1:47:15.479 clean pocket for Carson Wentz because things are bad when 1:47:15.520 --> 1:47:16.960 he doesn't have one. Well, and it might have come 1:47:17.040 --> 1:47:19.240 down to do you take the left tackle here or 1:47:19.280 --> 1:47:21.479 do you'd go with probably the best player on the board, 1:47:21.520 --> 1:47:23.880 which is likely Quitty Pay you know, a guy we 1:47:23.960 --> 1:47:27.760 thought could go top fifteen um his pass rusher. That's 1:47:27.880 --> 1:47:29.880 that's been a need of that on that team as well. 1:47:30.000 --> 1:47:33.680 So interesting decision there, And what do they do now 1:47:34.000 --> 1:47:37.120 at left tackle? Is there another left tackle they could go? Uh? 1:47:37.240 --> 1:47:39.160 You know, cause me Raidins. We've seen a bunch of 1:47:39.160 --> 1:47:40.880 Walker Little, We've seen a bunch of the tackles come 1:47:40.880 --> 1:47:43.759 off the board. Is that run completely done? Brady Christensen 1:47:43.840 --> 1:47:47.639 still there? Yeah, Brady Christensen would be my next best guy. Yeah, 1:47:47.680 --> 1:47:52.479 that's that's my best tackle too. Chris Ballard loves athletic testers, 1:47:52.560 --> 1:47:55.559 and Brady Christensen certainly checks that box. Yeah. Ten different 1:47:56.680 --> 1:48:00.040 offensive tackles have gone I mean, top eight guys on 1:48:00.160 --> 1:48:02.360 my board, and then Jackson Carman a little bit further down, 1:48:02.479 --> 1:48:06.960 Jalen Mayfield in that conversation as well. Maybe he's kind 1:48:07.000 --> 1:48:08.760 of a tweener. Yeah, yeah, I mean he only played 1:48:08.800 --> 1:48:10.920 tackle in college, but I think he's a guard. Yeah. 1:48:12.120 --> 1:48:17.080 Good point, Brady christians In, Like you guys mentioned, trying 1:48:17.080 --> 1:48:19.120 to think down the board a little bit more here 1:48:19.160 --> 1:48:21.280 with the next couple of picks, because the Colts go 1:48:21.360 --> 1:48:24.439 at fifty four, Steelers at fifty five Seahawks, which, by 1:48:24.439 --> 1:48:26.439 the way, that's a pick from the Cowboys that they 1:48:26.479 --> 1:48:30.400 actually grabbed fifty six fifty seven from the Rams. The 1:48:30.800 --> 1:48:34.040 Chiefs hold fifty eight fifty nine with Cleveland, and then 1:48:34.120 --> 1:48:37.200 the Saints at sixty. As we await the Colts selection 1:48:37.840 --> 1:48:40.920 at fifty four, how are we feeling right now after 1:48:41.000 --> 1:48:42.960 the first two picks of this draft for the Cowboys? 1:48:43.080 --> 1:48:47.120 Is it's actually Vanderbilt defensive in help me with the 1:48:47.280 --> 1:48:50.800 saying here, Dane Oh, dangbo A dangbo. That's a lot 1:48:50.880 --> 1:48:52.120 easier than I thought I was going to be. And 1:48:52.240 --> 1:48:54.479 this is a this is a basically a future pick. 1:48:54.560 --> 1:48:57.639 Because he tore his achilles in January, I'm probably gonna 1:48:57.680 --> 1:49:01.759 miss a good chunk of the season based on talent alone, 1:49:01.880 --> 1:49:03.479 this is a player that you know, we would have 1:49:03.479 --> 1:49:05.840 been talking about as maybe sneaks into the first round. 1:49:06.400 --> 1:49:09.599 So here we are. It turns out doesn't doesn't hurt 1:49:09.680 --> 1:49:11.799 him too much. He ends up going fifty four overall. 1:49:12.080 --> 1:49:15.439 He could end up being the best three technique in 1:49:15.520 --> 1:49:19.519 this class as a guy that kind of played you say, 1:49:19.600 --> 1:49:23.880 mostly edge at Vanderbands. Yeah, but like watching him play 1:49:23.920 --> 1:49:26.280 when he gets to the interior, I'm like, who game 1:49:26.360 --> 1:49:29.320 ten pounds and that dude might be a game wrecker 1:49:29.400 --> 1:49:31.720 in the NFL. Yeah. I felt so bad for this kid. 1:49:31.840 --> 1:49:34.759 He's the best player on a defense. It's always under attack. 1:49:35.439 --> 1:49:38.200 You know, what does it mean? Oh no, they're they're 1:49:38.280 --> 1:49:40.600 always on the field. Hey, what does that mean? It 1:49:40.680 --> 1:49:43.160 means they're getting pummeled by better teams all the time. 1:49:43.400 --> 1:49:45.960 Everybody's always under a ten and he's the one that 1:49:46.080 --> 1:49:49.519 commands the most attention. And the first I watched the 1:49:49.560 --> 1:49:52.200 Old Miss game and it looked like he finally had 1:49:52.479 --> 1:49:56.080 enough of his teammates. Seriously, I mean he's like looking 1:49:56.120 --> 1:49:58.160 at them like, you know, they give up a touchdown. 1:49:58.600 --> 1:50:01.200 He's looking around and he's probably saying, listen to hear you, 1:50:01.320 --> 1:50:03.240 m effort. Somebody needs to make a play out here, 1:50:03.360 --> 1:50:05.360 Like Marcus Peters back in the day. Yeah, I mean 1:50:05.479 --> 1:50:08.040 he is. Seriously, I don't think Vanderbilt won a game 1:50:08.240 --> 1:50:10.400 a game last year. I don't. I don't believe they did. 1:50:10.680 --> 1:50:14.240 I don't think. Yeah, they got fired. And again, this kid, 1:50:14.840 --> 1:50:18.599 he's from Irving, Texas. Eric good for him. But I'll 1:50:18.640 --> 1:50:20.920 tell you this though, like I felt sorry for him 1:50:20.960 --> 1:50:24.960 because he was always fighting. He just kept fighting. And 1:50:25.200 --> 1:50:27.160 you know, but for a tall guy, he's got some 1:50:27.360 --> 1:50:30.599 redirection skills and stuff like that. Get up the field, 1:50:30.720 --> 1:50:33.040 come back down, he can make the play. There's some 1:50:33.120 --> 1:50:35.080 snaps where he was just a little late getting to 1:50:35.160 --> 1:50:37.040 that quarterback, but when he does get in the position, 1:50:37.120 --> 1:50:40.960 this cat can finish. Hey, good for him Indianapolis. They'll 1:50:41.000 --> 1:50:44.240 take care of him, even with the adversity that he 1:50:44.360 --> 1:50:46.280 faced in terms of the teammates around him. I mean, 1:50:46.320 --> 1:50:48.000 those are good numbers that he put up one hundred 1:50:48.040 --> 1:50:50.479 twenty five tackles, thirty one tackles for loss in his 1:50:50.600 --> 1:50:52.600 career and then twelve sacks to go along with it. 1:50:52.720 --> 1:50:54.639 And I mean we've heard of time and time again 1:50:54.720 --> 1:50:57.519 from scouts and Bucky Brooks. Brian brought us and guys 1:50:57.560 --> 1:50:59.280 like that on the Draft Show. But if you get 1:50:59.320 --> 1:51:01.920 in the back yield in college, you're probably gonna do 1:51:01.960 --> 1:51:04.320 it in the NFL, especially whenever you didn't have a 1:51:04.360 --> 1:51:06.960 whole lot around you to work with against your competition, 1:51:07.960 --> 1:51:11.559 he was able to still be still be able to produce, 1:51:11.600 --> 1:51:13.360 and I think that's something plus. Hey, like you said 1:51:13.560 --> 1:51:16.920 in the shadow of the old Texas Stadium at Irving, Texas, 1:51:17.000 --> 1:51:20.160 Carrollton Ranch View product, that's fun. Here's a tight end 1:51:20.200 --> 1:51:22.160 off the board, only the second one to go. Of course, 1:51:22.240 --> 1:51:25.559 Kyle Pitts went at four. Pittsburgh selects Pat Friar Muth 1:51:25.680 --> 1:51:28.040 out of pin State Steelers. This is like a very 1:51:28.160 --> 1:51:31.320 nineteen ninety two draft. Nagy Harris in the first round, 1:51:31.680 --> 1:51:34.200 Pat Friar Muth here in the second walking tight end 1:51:34.240 --> 1:51:39.360 that didn't really get open. I kind of hate it, 1:51:39.439 --> 1:51:43.000 if I'm being honest. I said it's gonna be the 1:51:43.080 --> 1:51:47.719 next pick, getting ready. They should have just thrown literally 1:51:47.800 --> 1:51:50.599 two darts at the offensive line board and pick two 1:51:50.640 --> 1:51:53.040 of them and they'd probably been better off. I feel 1:51:53.080 --> 1:51:56.160 bad for Nagy Harris. Hey, we want to run the 1:51:56.200 --> 1:51:58.200 ball better, so we're gonna pick a running back instead 1:51:58.200 --> 1:52:00.120 of fixing our line. At least they picked somebody who 1:52:00.160 --> 1:52:03.280 could block, block for him. Yeah, the block form the 1:52:03.360 --> 1:52:05.719 theme of the first two picks. They have a small 1:52:05.800 --> 1:52:08.400 window here with big Ben, and they're going for it, 1:52:08.720 --> 1:52:11.639 and it's short sighted. It's probably not the best long 1:52:11.760 --> 1:52:14.600 term way to do this, but don't be honest. Okay, No, 1:52:14.720 --> 1:52:17.800 this is genius though, because Ben also is terrified to 1:52:17.840 --> 1:52:19.920 throw it more than four yards down field. So you 1:52:20.000 --> 1:52:21.599 get him a big tight end and a running back, 1:52:22.240 --> 1:52:26.400 so he's gonna have ninety receptions didn't have Probably they 1:52:26.520 --> 1:52:30.880 know their person up. Those are some of my favorite numbers. 1:52:31.040 --> 1:52:34.200 Was like, the the average depth of target for all 1:52:34.280 --> 1:52:36.880 the Pittsburgh receivers is like last in the league, second 1:52:36.920 --> 1:52:40.800 to last, third to last, So Pittsburgh, good luck. Hey, 1:52:40.840 --> 1:52:43.479 they resigned Juju though, so that's good. He's real good 1:52:43.520 --> 1:52:45.560 at running a one yard route, so that that that 1:52:45.720 --> 1:52:48.759 works great. Sometimes you're afraid to move on from your quarterback. 1:52:48.840 --> 1:52:53.320 You know that's happening. I also call quarterbacks washed and 1:52:53.439 --> 1:52:59.479 then it doesn't work out. But Ben's that Ben is washed? 1:53:00.120 --> 1:53:02.479 Would Ben be washed if he had an offensive line 1:53:02.520 --> 1:53:04.599 that could do anything for him? Yeah, he's just shot. 1:53:04.680 --> 1:53:07.120 He's old and kind of fat and can't really throw 1:53:07.160 --> 1:53:08.920 the ball like he's having a tough time of it. 1:53:09.080 --> 1:53:11.679 I don't disagree with you, but for all you folks 1:53:11.720 --> 1:53:14.519 are listening from Pittsburgh, we appreciate your having out with us. 1:53:15.320 --> 1:53:17.799 We promise it gets better. Man, we get a quarterback, 1:53:17.840 --> 1:53:20.200 you guys are gonna be in good shape. I'm talking 1:53:20.240 --> 1:53:23.599 about listening from around the world. I've seen Australia, I've 1:53:23.680 --> 1:53:28.559 seen Germany, Saudi Arabia. Really that's awesome. I mean coast 1:53:28.600 --> 1:53:30.920 to coasting around the world on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1:53:31.360 --> 1:53:33.680 and one oh five three the Fan. We also think 1:53:33.720 --> 1:53:36.280 all of you from inside the DFW Metriplex as well, 1:53:36.360 --> 1:53:40.920 stand up DFWA Metroplex. Now, anybody's surprised with players that 1:53:40.960 --> 1:53:43.479 are still on their board, anybody that sticks out as 1:53:43.520 --> 1:53:46.679 a blinking light that, oh my gosh, they're still here. Yeah, 1:53:46.800 --> 1:53:49.840 Nick Bolton see, and I don't know if that's a 1:53:49.920 --> 1:53:54.840 massive surprise. He sure, it's just Kinny Cover. Just watch 1:53:54.960 --> 1:53:56.840 the tape. It's just Kinney Cover. That's that's the question. 1:53:57.400 --> 1:54:00.800 We don't always round watch the college tape of him 1:54:01.120 --> 1:54:03.720 getting to college players like that. I think that's a 1:54:03.800 --> 1:54:06.120 reasonable concern, to be completely honest with you. I know, 1:54:06.240 --> 1:54:09.320 forty is not everything. Yeah, but it's a slow linebacker. 1:54:09.439 --> 1:54:12.240 I don't worry about his speed at all. I don't 1:54:12.280 --> 1:54:13.960 worry about his speed in any way, shape or form. 1:54:14.040 --> 1:54:16.080 Well how many times and I said this the other 1:54:16.200 --> 1:54:18.040 day about this kid. It was on with the UK 1:54:18.560 --> 1:54:20.519 The UK Cowboy folks over in Lennon, by the way, 1:54:20.560 --> 1:54:23.240 shout out to them, great James are amazing job. Appreciate 1:54:23.280 --> 1:54:26.400 you guys having us. Okay, every time I'm watching his 1:54:26.520 --> 1:54:29.720 kid play, though, it's like he's like, get there, get there, 1:54:29.760 --> 1:54:31.800 get there, get there, and he's there. You know. It's 1:54:31.840 --> 1:54:34.560 like there's plays he makes during a game where you're like, 1:54:34.720 --> 1:54:37.280 you don't think he has a chance in hell getting there, 1:54:37.760 --> 1:54:40.520 and he runs that thing down. He doesn't have four 1:54:40.560 --> 1:54:43.640 to six game speed. His four six that he ranty 1:54:43.960 --> 1:54:46.880 isn't accurate to what you see on You know what. Fine, 1:54:47.280 --> 1:54:49.280 If I was there, if I was timing him and 1:54:49.320 --> 1:54:51.120 I like him as much as I did, you know 1:54:51.200 --> 1:54:53.000 what I would do Dave right him at thirty eight 1:54:53.040 --> 1:54:55.200 how many time? How many yards to get him thirty 1:54:55.240 --> 1:54:59.480 eight yards? Yeah, hey, Brian, would that kid run four four? Three? Guys? 1:55:00.280 --> 1:55:01.720 You need to put him up there in the top 1:55:01.720 --> 1:55:03.760 of that second round there, you know, I hate. I 1:55:03.840 --> 1:55:05.880 hate to be that guy. And I like Nick Bolton. 1:55:06.000 --> 1:55:10.000 I watched him. I just it's it's different in the NFL. 1:55:10.200 --> 1:55:13.080 Everybody's a little bit faster in the NFL. You see it. 1:55:13.120 --> 1:55:15.320 If I see a six on your forty time, I 1:55:15.800 --> 1:55:18.040 get a little nervous. I get a little bit nervous, 1:55:18.200 --> 1:55:20.040 that's all. I think. There's a lot of linebackers that 1:55:20.160 --> 1:55:23.000 run four four that if you stand them in the 1:55:23.080 --> 1:55:25.000 same spot, you're on the same play. He beats him 1:55:25.000 --> 1:55:26.720 to the ball every play. You I've heard you say 1:55:26.800 --> 1:55:30.160 that on the Draft show. Believe I guess we'll see, 1:55:30.280 --> 1:55:31.880 like it'll be a fun thing to chart. I just 1:55:32.160 --> 1:55:34.320 and I'm not saying he's a bad player, but I 1:55:34.640 --> 1:55:37.720 I'm not completely surprised that NFL teams are dinging him 1:55:37.840 --> 1:55:41.280 if that's why they are, because they're all cowards. No, 1:55:41.560 --> 1:55:46.320 I mean, would get good football players takes He takes 1:55:46.360 --> 1:55:49.280 it personally, take it personally, I do. These teams don't 1:55:49.320 --> 1:55:51.320 care what I think. Hey, Kyle Shanhan said, I might 1:55:51.360 --> 1:55:53.040 be dead Sunday. I'm just trying to do the best 1:55:53.080 --> 1:55:58.160 of God. I'm still making it or making it day 1:55:58.160 --> 1:56:01.000 to the airport. I mean, yes, you took this all 1:56:01.040 --> 1:56:02.840 the way down to zero because they were trying like 1:56:02.960 --> 1:56:05.400 hell to get out right. Yeah, yeah, there's no way, 1:56:05.720 --> 1:56:07.760 there's no way they want to make this take an 1:56:07.840 --> 1:56:12.200 edge in this entire ye. There's no way they wanted 1:56:12.720 --> 1:56:17.080 they were trying to eat up right now. Yeah, let's uh, 1:56:17.280 --> 1:56:20.240 let's step aside, take our final break. We're going into 1:56:20.320 --> 1:56:22.800 our number three. You're listening to the twenty twenty one 1:56:22.920 --> 1:56:25.120 NFL Draft on one on five three the Fan and 1:56:25.320 --> 1:56:29.960 Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and we're back on the d 1:56:30.240 --> 1:56:33.400 or the dot com side of things. Glad you're with us. 1:56:33.400 --> 1:56:35.280 But yeah, the Seahawks taking this thing all the way 1:56:35.320 --> 1:56:39.280 down pretty impressive, Brian, that they were able to eat 1:56:39.320 --> 1:56:41.360 this clock up in the middle of the second round. 1:56:42.120 --> 1:56:43.720 There's some games they wish they could have eaten the 1:56:43.760 --> 1:56:46.280 clock up that well. But yeah, I think that was 1:56:46.280 --> 1:56:49.560 a shot. Yeah, no, like it. Hey, my guy's John Snyder. 1:56:49.680 --> 1:56:51.520 We know that. I mean John, I love the man, 1:56:51.680 --> 1:56:54.240 and I you know, we'll see. So he's always has 1:56:54.280 --> 1:56:56.960 an interesting track though. He always does something like why 1:56:57.000 --> 1:56:59.840 did you take that? Guy? Well, why not? I'm like, okay, 1:57:00.120 --> 1:57:02.400 just like ask for shot, Penny, I'm okay, how is 1:57:02.440 --> 1:57:06.760 he gonna help out Russell Wilson at this point man 1:57:07.200 --> 1:57:09.960 probably with another running back. Now he's he's gonna take 1:57:09.960 --> 1:57:12.480 a defensive end here, He's gonna take a defensive lineman. 1:57:12.520 --> 1:57:14.280 That's what he always does. Bash him. Could be the 1:57:14.320 --> 1:57:18.920 pick here. I'm just guessing, totally guessing on this wide receiver. 1:57:19.040 --> 1:57:21.000 Look for him. That's a good pick too. I like 1:57:21.320 --> 1:57:25.160 ye wide receiver out of Western Michigan. And you're not 1:57:25.200 --> 1:57:27.200 gonna You're gonna try to not let Russ cook, and 1:57:27.200 --> 1:57:30.240 you're gonna run him out there with Lockett, Metcalf and Eskridge. 1:57:30.680 --> 1:57:32.960 That's fun boy. Russ is about to check out at 1:57:33.040 --> 1:57:36.520 every run play and I am here for it. I 1:57:36.600 --> 1:57:39.320 mean pure speed with him, and you know he can 1:57:39.360 --> 1:57:42.200 win downfield, catch the ball outside his frame. Uh, He's 1:57:42.200 --> 1:57:46.480 just a little small, but the speed is legit. Both 1:57:46.560 --> 1:57:49.000 before and after the catch. He can get open and 1:57:49.120 --> 1:57:53.320 then put on the after burners and create. So I 1:57:53.400 --> 1:57:55.880 think that anywhere on in the top seventy five, top eight, 1:57:55.920 --> 1:57:58.520 he made sense. A little surprised Seattle took him here, 1:57:58.600 --> 1:58:01.960 but I love it was. He the most fun player 1:58:02.440 --> 1:58:05.360 in terms of the wide receivers to watch at the 1:58:05.440 --> 1:58:12.120 Senior Bowl because he wasn't there him Tony. It was 1:58:12.560 --> 1:58:15.040 probably Tony, yeah, but but he didn't play a ton right. 1:58:15.080 --> 1:58:16.760 He was a little banged up on that ankle. No, 1:58:17.000 --> 1:58:19.800 he played and he practiced the first three days. That's fair, 1:58:19.960 --> 1:58:22.640 But I mean Escridge was right there with him, and 1:58:22.960 --> 1:58:25.920 Escridge he dominated and he basically said after three practice, 1:58:25.960 --> 1:58:28.080 all right, I'm done. I showed enough, and he did. 1:58:28.200 --> 1:58:32.000 He played outstanding. And all those receivers really played at 1:58:32.040 --> 1:58:34.520 a high level, but Escridge definitely stood out. By the way, 1:58:34.560 --> 1:58:36.760 that's the eighth receiver off the board. Some of the 1:58:36.840 --> 1:58:41.000 other receivers that you could potentially Terrace Marshall Junior out 1:58:41.040 --> 1:58:45.160 of LSU A Monra Saint Brown is still available, Diami 1:58:45.760 --> 1:58:49.160 Brown out of North Carolina, Thailand Wallace, who a lot 1:58:49.200 --> 1:58:51.400 of people had a third round grade on Kay Johnson, 1:58:51.520 --> 1:58:54.760 Nico collins Man. There is another such good wide receiver class. 1:58:54.760 --> 1:58:56.560 I gotta throw my guy in there to Jaylen Darden 1:58:56.560 --> 1:58:58.720 out of North Texas, but he's probably not gonna go today. 1:58:58.760 --> 1:59:05.080 Who what was that? Who? Come on, I'll represent kat 1:59:06.200 --> 1:59:08.120 not it could have gotten a Mountain Union like you, 1:59:08.360 --> 1:59:13.560 right hey, Gie fun against the University of Mary Harden 1:59:13.640 --> 1:59:18.600 Baylor over there. I've watched the tape Simmons Mary Harden Baylor. 1:59:18.680 --> 1:59:21.800 They played, Oh it's our it's our guy from a 1:59:21.880 --> 1:59:26.240 guy from Whitewater. Okay, minor he played. I watched the 1:59:26.320 --> 1:59:30.200 play against a playoff game against Mary Hartman Baylor, m 1:59:30.360 --> 1:59:33.360 h Mary Harden Baylor. Yeah, I'll get that right one 1:59:33.400 --> 1:59:35.800 of these games. Okay. I was looking for the bound 1:59:35.920 --> 1:59:38.080 bounce house. They didn't have that. I'm hoping we see 1:59:38.120 --> 1:59:40.480 miners here pretty soon. I think the record for a 1:59:40.600 --> 1:59:43.880 D three players sixty one, so I'm hoping we hear 1:59:43.960 --> 1:59:48.160 mine Ali Marpett, No, um, what's his name? I can't remember? 1:59:48.440 --> 1:59:52.240 Mark Pett was a little bit later, but close. Dan 1:59:52.360 --> 1:59:54.920 forgot a name. Yeah, ran from the three guy from 1:59:55.040 --> 1:59:57.440 nineteen seventy four, and you can't think of his name. No, Derek, 1:59:57.480 --> 2:00:03.120 if you're don't say that. I don't say that because eventually, No, 2:00:03.240 --> 2:00:08.520 we need you for tomorrow. Tomorrow over the quarter donuts. 2:00:08.520 --> 2:00:11.960 So why you do this draft? Where those where those 2:00:12.040 --> 2:00:15.760 muffins at that we're here? Earlier it was the pretty tomorrow? Yeah, 2:00:15.960 --> 2:00:18.440 are we getting at the stubs tomorrow? I talked to 2:00:18.560 --> 2:00:20.760 dal Ripple. He was he's getting maybe I don't know. 2:00:20.920 --> 2:00:22.920 I don't know. I need to go out to compel myself. 2:00:22.960 --> 2:00:25.320 Whatever Dane wants for breakfast, yeah, I will go get 2:00:25.360 --> 2:00:29.680 because breakfast tacos is Rudy's, Rudy's breakfast. I'll do that 2:00:29.720 --> 2:00:31.480 for had that before. I don't know, but it's done. 2:00:31.760 --> 2:00:34.400 Whatever you want, because my plan is to say thirty 2:00:34.480 --> 2:00:36.520 eight words tomorrow, but I'll be here so I might 2:00:36.560 --> 2:00:38.720 as well feed Dane. That's right up, thank you? Is 2:00:38.720 --> 2:00:41.240 it Rudy's breakfast Tacos that you want? Really good? All right? 2:00:41.800 --> 2:00:46.520 That he's stranded at the hotel too, man, let's not 2:00:46.640 --> 2:00:50.240 act like he's struggling. He's not at the motel. My god. 2:00:50.280 --> 2:00:53.960 Everybody in the hallway's like, oh, that's Dane Brugler. Stay. 2:00:54.560 --> 2:00:55.680 You can stay at the house if you want to 2:00:55.720 --> 2:00:58.240 come back and stream and drink whiskey and Miller Lte 2:00:58.320 --> 2:01:01.200 until the sun comes up and then come draft them up. Yet, 2:01:01.280 --> 2:01:04.480 nothing going on tomorrow. I got home. I got home 2:01:04.560 --> 2:01:06.760 last night, market ready. I got a home last night, 2:01:06.800 --> 2:01:08.240 and I was like, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna update 2:01:08.320 --> 2:01:09.760 my spreadsheet, go to bed, and I look at my 2:01:09.840 --> 2:01:13.600 Twitch notifications and it's Jeff Cavanaugh streaming war Zone again 2:01:13.880 --> 2:01:16.240 last night. YouTube and Twitch never stopped. You got to 2:01:16.360 --> 2:01:19.040 keep the drying and it's pretty impressive. 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It's our number three of the 2:01:49.400 --> 2:01:52.800 twenty twenty one NFL Draft coverage Day two on one 2:01:52.880 --> 2:01:56.320 oh five three to fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 2:01:56.480 --> 2:02:00.040 Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Cavanaugh, Brian brought us, Dane Brugler and 2:02:00.240 --> 2:02:03.960 David Hellman with you from Inside the Star in Frisco. 2:02:04.040 --> 2:02:07.160 So glad you're with us on both of our platforms. 2:02:07.240 --> 2:02:10.360 We are at pick number fifty seven the second round 2:02:10.440 --> 2:02:13.120 of the NFL Draft. The Los Angeles Rams are on 2:02:13.240 --> 2:02:17.920 the clock. Most recent picks were fifty five Pat Friar 2:02:18.240 --> 2:02:21.480 Muth from Penn State to tight end Dwayne Scridge, wide 2:02:21.520 --> 2:02:24.120 receiver from Western Michigan. What are you saying wow for 2:02:24.360 --> 2:02:27.360 over there, welcome to the draft rams. Yeah, they're here 2:02:27.480 --> 2:02:32.320 right thread lest sneeds got COVID Did I see that? Yeah? Yesterday? 2:02:32.400 --> 2:02:36.160 Oh is he at the beach house drafting with everybody else? Yeah? 2:02:36.240 --> 2:02:38.840 He locked up in the in the little poolhouse out 2:02:38.840 --> 2:02:40.800 They got the little coach up. They're making these picks. 2:02:41.400 --> 2:02:44.120 This could be crazy. It's gonna be Sean McVay all 2:02:44.200 --> 2:02:47.360 by himself his hand. I mean, if you're gonna be 2:02:47.440 --> 2:02:51.120 quarantined somehow, that's all offense. Yeah, just take a wide receiver. 2:02:51.280 --> 2:02:55.240 That's always the right play fifty seven. There are a 2:02:55.280 --> 2:02:57.120 lot of wide receivers still laugh. We talked about that 2:02:57.200 --> 2:03:02.839 on com Cyrus Marshall, Oh, Terrace Marshall, there would be dangerous. 2:03:03.440 --> 2:03:06.800 It's two. I was gonna say two too, because he's fun, 2:03:06.920 --> 2:03:10.280 but I didn't know if he would go early. Seems 2:03:10.400 --> 2:03:12.760 so high for a guy who weighs one hundred and 2:03:13.000 --> 2:03:15.880 forty five pounds. You must not be on social media enough. 2:03:16.120 --> 2:03:18.320 Two two did another way in the other day, and 2:03:18.760 --> 2:03:21.720 he showed that he had no pockets and his sweatpants 2:03:22.920 --> 2:03:28.600 shoes and he stepped on one six zero. Two Two's 2:03:28.600 --> 2:03:30.640 ready to rock. He's up to one six six pounds 2:03:31.760 --> 2:03:34.600 pound Smith, who everybody thinks is gonna break in the NFL. Yeah, 2:03:34.600 --> 2:03:36.920 but DeVante's over six foot this is this is five 2:03:37.000 --> 2:03:39.880 eight sothing like he's rocked up. Now. This is Sean 2:03:40.000 --> 2:03:43.080 McVay pick though, Like I look at this and I 2:03:43.200 --> 2:03:48.880 think Sean McVeagh, I mean brought jump, yes, Like are 2:03:48.920 --> 2:03:52.840 they about to play this astin for him? This is 2:03:52.920 --> 2:03:54.880 Taylor Austin. I mean, I think he's more than that 2:03:54.920 --> 2:03:58.160 because he's he won him going vertically right, and I 2:03:58.200 --> 2:04:00.480 think he tracks the ball. He's Hollywood Brown. No, no, no, 2:04:00.560 --> 2:04:02.760 he's he's a good received. I agree with you. I 2:04:02.880 --> 2:04:06.800 just wondered it's talking side by this Mcveighan McVeigh could 2:04:06.880 --> 2:04:10.680 not do anything with Tavon Austin. I wonder if he 2:04:10.760 --> 2:04:13.280 just picked a similar type of a player, well, like 2:04:13.400 --> 2:04:16.160 Matthew Stafford can throw it a mile two two, can 2:04:16.240 --> 2:04:18.520 get behind the defense and run a mile. So his 2:04:18.680 --> 2:04:21.480 film's fun. By the way, I thought it. Two nineteen 2:04:21.480 --> 2:04:24.360 stuff was better than his twenty twenty stuff. Um. I 2:04:24.480 --> 2:04:26.960 wasn't as impressed with his twenty twenty film, but the 2:04:27.400 --> 2:04:29.480 nineteen film was. I couldn't tell what I was looking 2:04:29.520 --> 2:04:32.040 at it was in this COVID situation, you have to 2:04:32.200 --> 2:04:34.360 not opt it out or in Sean McVeigh has a 2:04:34.400 --> 2:04:37.320 framed portrait of Goodell in the living room of this house, 2:04:38.320 --> 2:04:40.680 kidding me, a vacation home. It isn't. Aren't they at 2:04:40.680 --> 2:04:44.080 the beach house? Maybe that was in the airbnb when 2:04:44.120 --> 2:04:47.560 they got there. Said wow, that's two. Two was a 2:04:47.640 --> 2:04:51.120 really interesting guy, because I believe it was twenty twenty 2:04:51.160 --> 2:04:52.800 that I was watching, and I went into it thinking 2:04:52.800 --> 2:04:54.360 I was going to be watching this like four two 2:04:54.400 --> 2:04:55.800 guys that you got to hit him in the chest 2:04:55.920 --> 2:04:59.880 and he I was surprised because tiny guys when you 2:05:00.120 --> 2:05:01.880 don't have to make a perfect throw. I'm like, oh, 2:05:02.080 --> 2:05:04.520 he's like a full sized person, like out in front 2:05:04.560 --> 2:05:06.200 of him and above his head and he's able to 2:05:06.280 --> 2:05:08.600 kind of extend and grab it. He was a more 2:05:08.880 --> 2:05:11.920 well rounded player than I thought he would be. Going 2:05:12.000 --> 2:05:13.680 in like, I thought I was gonna be watching a 2:05:13.760 --> 2:05:15.600 gadget guy, and I was like, oh, that's a real 2:05:15.680 --> 2:05:18.360 life wide receiver. Yeah. So our friends on the television, 2:05:18.840 --> 2:05:20.680 it looked like the comp they were using for him 2:05:20.800 --> 2:05:23.320 was jachiem Grant, our friend out of Texas Tech from 2:05:23.320 --> 2:05:25.320 a few years ago. Is that sound? That's why I 2:05:25.360 --> 2:05:29.600 called Garden too. I thought he would do mean green right, 2:05:29.720 --> 2:05:31.640 but two two out, Well, I think he's Hollywood Brown, 2:05:32.040 --> 2:05:33.840 who was a first round pick a couple of years ago. 2:05:34.000 --> 2:05:36.680 But you know, he has some drops. He's not the 2:05:36.800 --> 2:05:41.960 most diverse receiver. But speed doesn't have size obviously, but 2:05:42.040 --> 2:05:44.200 he has speed to burn and that's really what's the 2:05:44.240 --> 2:05:46.400 difference maker for him. What were his times? What did 2:05:46.440 --> 2:05:48.040 he run? I'm trying to look it up at the moment. 2:05:48.040 --> 2:05:49.760 I think they said he ran in the four threes, 2:05:49.800 --> 2:05:51.920 didn't they. I believe it's going to be in the 2:05:52.000 --> 2:05:55.320 four threes three five, one, four nine split, which is 2:05:55.360 --> 2:05:57.040 one of the best out of the wide receiver group. 2:05:57.080 --> 2:06:00.280 Actually the best that I've got written down here. By 2:06:00.280 --> 2:06:01.760 the way, you don't had the best ten yards split 2:06:01.840 --> 2:06:06.960 this year. Who boss man fat? That would be keep 2:06:07.000 --> 2:06:10.800 giving me reasons. That would be Kelvin Joseph. If you're not, 2:06:11.600 --> 2:06:13.080 we need to catch everybody up. That would be the 2:06:13.120 --> 2:06:16.840 Cowboys second round pick cornerback who's awesome as long as 2:06:16.880 --> 2:06:19.880 he like works hard and stuff, comes to practice, get 2:06:19.920 --> 2:06:21.960 it right like not like by the end of the weekend, 2:06:22.040 --> 2:06:25.920 get rid of Garrett. Hey, they wanted to be fast, 2:06:26.240 --> 2:06:28.400 they're fast. You get rid of Garrett, you get a 2:06:28.440 --> 2:06:32.840 real football team. You know. I actually I actually thought 2:06:32.880 --> 2:06:37.000 about this to myself out there walking today about about 2:06:37.040 --> 2:06:41.280 forty five months ago. I was thinking, No, seriously, like Burger, 2:06:41.280 --> 2:06:43.000 you gotta laugh at that one, Huh. I didn't have 2:06:43.080 --> 2:06:45.920 to live. No, I'm just thinking, what is he gonna do? 2:06:46.080 --> 2:06:51.080 What you gotta laugh? What's Garrett gonna do with Cadarius Tony, Like, 2:06:51.360 --> 2:06:55.320 I don't know how it's gonna work having block for Sorry, 2:06:55.680 --> 2:06:57.560 welcome to the team, Cadarius, show me how you block. 2:06:57.600 --> 2:07:00.640 It's help me. He's gonna take it. Brown Rule. We're 2:07:00.800 --> 2:07:03.040 so far we can't even see the road anymore, and 2:07:03.080 --> 2:07:06.840 we're so far in the weeds. It's funny homes Hey, guy, 2:07:07.080 --> 2:07:10.400 that's what I'm talking about. Chiefs. That is what I 2:07:10.560 --> 2:07:13.600 am talking about. Chiefs linebacker out of Missouri for no 2:07:13.840 --> 2:07:18.400 Texas draft pick. Got it? That feels say that when 2:07:19.280 --> 2:07:21.440 the guy we didn't say, oh, Brian, I mocked into 2:07:21.520 --> 2:07:23.760 Kansas City for you. Yeah, you said he was awful, 2:07:24.360 --> 2:07:27.240 baby jerk. He's my thirty ninth rateked player. All right, 2:07:27.360 --> 2:07:31.280 you know what sixth round I'll take them. I'll tie 2:07:31.320 --> 2:07:34.400 this into the Cowboys and just say that like that. 2:07:34.640 --> 2:07:37.160 That's the air to Anthony Hitchins right there, which is 2:07:37.240 --> 2:07:41.360 to say just solid just makes tackles like that makes 2:07:41.440 --> 2:07:45.080 every tackle. Oh, we'll see it in the NFL. I'm 2:07:45.080 --> 2:07:50.640 not trying to hate on Dave's teams. Get this, others don't. 2:07:50.800 --> 2:07:52.400 I'm not trying to hate. Do you see what sit 2:07:52.480 --> 2:07:56.000 behind their behind their wall, it's a Super Bowl champs, Yeah, 2:07:56.720 --> 2:07:59.600 said on their board home. It's not because of any 2:08:01.240 --> 2:08:05.080 guard for them. Yeah. They they they got Steve spagnulacallon defenses, 2:08:05.120 --> 2:08:07.080 and they got guys like Nick Bolton coming in their mind. 2:08:07.080 --> 2:08:09.040 I'm gonna force y'all to talk about the Cowboys for 2:08:09.160 --> 2:08:12.080 one second because going back to your point about Jason Garrett, 2:08:12.080 --> 2:08:14.920 I was thinking about this. You know, we heard a 2:08:15.000 --> 2:08:16.920 lot of we heard a lot of buzzwords about like 2:08:17.080 --> 2:08:20.840 culture guys heading into this draft, like changing the culture. Yeah, 2:08:22.320 --> 2:08:24.480 you can't. I mean you could argue that they kind 2:08:24.520 --> 2:08:26.640 of did. No, you could argue that they kind of 2:08:26.680 --> 2:08:30.200 did because in the way of like, these guys got 2:08:30.280 --> 2:08:32.400 some s to them. Yeah, if you if you take 2:08:32.480 --> 2:08:35.240 my meaning absolutely, like and I don't want to say 2:08:35.240 --> 2:08:37.440 they're not the wrong kind of guys. But like, going 2:08:37.520 --> 2:08:40.000 back to the Jim Garrett thing, Jason Garrett often seemed 2:08:40.000 --> 2:08:42.720 like he was looking for boy scouts, right, but didn't 2:08:42.760 --> 2:08:47.440 you always Jim Garrett said, I'm saying Jason Garrett often 2:08:47.560 --> 2:08:50.600 looked for boy scouts. Would you say that's fair disrespectful 2:08:50.640 --> 2:08:54.200 to his father? Not Jim Randy Moss give him credit 2:08:54.280 --> 2:08:56.360 for that. These guys aren't boy scouts, and I'm not 2:08:56.520 --> 2:08:58.840 trying to like applaud them for that, but you wanted 2:08:58.920 --> 2:09:01.200 that forever, Brian. You were like, give me the guys 2:09:01.240 --> 2:09:02.760 with the chip on their shoulder, and give me that 2:09:02.920 --> 2:09:05.960 bad like he's a he's a bad guy. So Jason 2:09:05.960 --> 2:09:08.800 Garrett's not gonna draft him. Well, that narrative is not here, 2:09:08.880 --> 2:09:10.520 right may we started talking about, well he's got some 2:09:10.600 --> 2:09:12.720 character questions, like, well, he's not gonna be playing for us, 2:09:13.520 --> 2:09:16.160 So maybe maybe we misread Maybe they maybe they just 2:09:16.320 --> 2:09:19.000 want some dogs. You know. Michael Parsons was in the 2:09:19.120 --> 2:09:21.360 he did his introductory presser today and he was like, 2:09:21.720 --> 2:09:24.480 I hate to lose. I want to beat good at bowling, 2:09:24.520 --> 2:09:26.840 I want to beat you at chess. So I don't know. 2:09:26.960 --> 2:09:28.400 Maybe that way he wants he wants to learn how 2:09:28.440 --> 2:09:30.920 to cook crawfish. He wants to talk to him. Yeah, nice, 2:09:30.920 --> 2:09:33.360 he says. Maybe that Jeff, He's like, yeah, I'll come 2:09:33.360 --> 2:09:34.960 to crawfish, boil you guys. I would have learned how 2:09:34.960 --> 2:09:38.600 to cook him. Let's bring all right, let's He's like, 2:09:38.720 --> 2:09:40.520 He's like, yeah, I'm in. What are you doing Memorial 2:09:40.640 --> 2:09:43.600 Day weekend? I've also said I wanted to learn that 2:09:43.760 --> 2:09:48.120 nobody's in every day. I have a nice, little passive 2:09:48.120 --> 2:09:50.480 aggressive it was. It was a little Yeoman's over. He 2:09:50.600 --> 2:09:53.160 was a little pat right for a while. Kyle. You know, 2:09:53.480 --> 2:09:58.640 see you've invited me to golf. But I mean, when 2:09:58.680 --> 2:10:01.520 crawfish comes around this crickets, we could we could crawfish 2:10:01.560 --> 2:10:06.640 and there's only sounds great to me. That's true. Fair, 2:10:06.760 --> 2:10:09.480 I won't but I think you're mean to me. Yeah, 2:10:09.600 --> 2:10:11.720 I think they've they've got a team that's got some edge. 2:10:11.760 --> 2:10:14.920 Well the first two pigs. These guys have got some 2:10:15.240 --> 2:10:18.240 That's that's that point I'm trying to make. Yeah. Now, 2:10:18.920 --> 2:10:21.360 this is a question from Mark Bristow on Twitter. This 2:10:21.560 --> 2:10:24.280 is just kind of interesting. He says, better prospect Treyvon 2:10:24.400 --> 2:10:28.160 Diggs or Kelvin Joseph in terms of cornerbacks selected in 2:10:28.240 --> 2:10:30.640 the second round. Of course, Joseph was picked to forty 2:10:30.680 --> 2:10:34.800 four this year, Diggs last year at fifty one. Who 2:10:34.920 --> 2:10:36.720 was the better prospect between the two? Where would you 2:10:36.760 --> 2:10:42.720 rank m T I would say Joseph. I liked Joseph better. 2:10:42.960 --> 2:10:47.280 Now what about not? Yeah, it's stuff that I don't know, 2:10:47.640 --> 2:10:49.800 you know, like it's it's true, it's off the field, 2:10:50.360 --> 2:10:52.480 like where you can't necessarily. I know that his music 2:10:52.600 --> 2:10:55.200 is good and I enjoy listening to it, so I'm 2:10:55.240 --> 2:10:58.240 big on that, and I don't like, I hate that 2:10:58.400 --> 2:11:00.200 the NFL is like, oh, You've got all off the 2:11:00.240 --> 2:11:03.560 field things that you really like and that hurts your stock. 2:11:03.840 --> 2:11:05.400 But at the same time, if I was really running 2:11:05.400 --> 2:11:06.680 a team, I'd be like, I really want you to 2:11:06.760 --> 2:11:10.040 only care about football, So I get it. But when 2:11:10.040 --> 2:11:13.120 you're talking about you know what happened with multiple coaching staff, 2:11:13.200 --> 2:11:15.400 so like, yeah, that's concerning. But with what I know 2:11:15.560 --> 2:11:17.640 from watching them play football, I would say that Kelvin 2:11:17.720 --> 2:11:20.480 josephs a better prospect. Dan, how do you feel about that? 2:11:22.040 --> 2:11:26.600 That's tough. I think that they're pretty they're pretty closely ranked. 2:11:26.600 --> 2:11:30.040 I would probably lean Diggs as a prospect and I 2:11:30.080 --> 2:11:34.160 would lean Joseph as a talent. If that makes sense, 2:11:34.280 --> 2:11:35.680 it doesn't matter. And that's what I was gonna say, 2:11:35.800 --> 2:11:38.000 is I get Jeff's point, but you can't. You gotta 2:11:38.040 --> 2:11:40.720 take the whole picture into account. And I'd say Digs 2:11:40.880 --> 2:11:44.280 because he good player who came with no questions whatsoever, 2:11:44.480 --> 2:11:46.960 Like we didn't have a ten minute dialogue about it. 2:11:47.040 --> 2:11:50.000 He just have something recently happened to him. That's I mean, 2:11:50.080 --> 2:11:52.560 that's an interesting point, and it's that's dicey because like 2:11:52.680 --> 2:11:55.320 does that bring you into like, oh wait, he sometimes 2:11:55.440 --> 2:11:58.000 makes bad decisions like everybody else in life. I'm gonna say, 2:11:58.000 --> 2:12:01.360 I think every twenty two year old rich, any twenty 2:12:01.360 --> 2:12:03.320 two year old guy makes bad decisions, but especially if 2:12:03.320 --> 2:12:05.040 you have a lot of money. Sure I don't, but 2:12:05.360 --> 2:12:07.920 I like, nothing concrete has come out of that, you 2:12:08.000 --> 2:12:09.960 know what I mean That I've just says two weeks ago, 2:12:10.000 --> 2:12:11.640 and I haven't heard a word about it. I'm with 2:12:11.760 --> 2:12:14.640 you on this, So I think, Joseph, I just think 2:12:14.680 --> 2:12:16.960 if you talk about talent, if you want you talk 2:12:17.000 --> 2:12:20.400 about hey, walk over and cover that guy. I'm gonna 2:12:20.440 --> 2:12:22.760 I think Joseph walks over and covers that game. You're 2:12:22.800 --> 2:12:24.960 making me like this pick more and more every time 2:12:25.000 --> 2:12:26.680 we talk about it. If you think he's a better 2:12:26.880 --> 2:12:29.800 player than Diggs, well, I'm doing radio with you, Dave, 2:12:29.840 --> 2:12:31.480 and I'm sitting and not sitting in the draft rooms. 2:12:31.560 --> 2:12:34.200 That might need you to think about that different. That's true. 2:12:35.680 --> 2:12:39.840 Waiting on the Carolina pick at fifty nine. This is 2:12:39.880 --> 2:12:42.120 a pick that they secured from the Browns a little 2:12:42.120 --> 2:12:45.880 bit early. On Another question on Twitter while I'm on here, 2:12:46.080 --> 2:12:49.920 how about Cisco as a free safety? This is or 2:12:50.120 --> 2:12:53.840 actually for Jeff Kavanaugh's purposes, how about Divine Diablo as 2:12:53.840 --> 2:12:56.360 a hybrid between the two? So Cisco and Diablo, what 2:12:56.440 --> 2:12:59.400 do you think about those two? At maybe seventy five? Okay, 2:12:59.440 --> 2:13:02.400 you got your hybrid guy right already, Keana Neil, Yeah, 2:13:02.440 --> 2:13:03.720 you got your hybrid guy. Do you we need to 2:13:03.720 --> 2:13:07.080 add another hybrid? He Let's go get a real true 2:13:07.120 --> 2:13:08.960 free sac right. He's a solid player, but I don't 2:13:08.960 --> 2:13:11.160 think he fits exactly what they're looking for. Cisco is 2:13:11.200 --> 2:13:13.920 just he's just so much feast for famine on his tape, 2:13:14.120 --> 2:13:17.840 and you know that makes me more sad than a famine. Yeah, 2:13:18.000 --> 2:13:22.800 you know, like at safety, Marshall, you can't be unreliable 2:13:22.840 --> 2:13:25.200 as the last line of defense. Yeah, I wonder why. 2:13:25.240 --> 2:13:28.400 I wonder why Terris Marshall's going to Carolina. Yeah, sink 2:13:28.440 --> 2:13:32.640 about who's the OC he's there? Yeah, great point. They 2:13:32.720 --> 2:13:35.360 lost Curtis Samuel and they had a different type of receiver. 2:13:35.520 --> 2:13:38.040 Harris Marshall's a better player than Curtis Samuel. I'm a homer. 2:13:38.160 --> 2:13:41.480 I don't care he's I don't disagree. All three of 2:13:41.560 --> 2:13:44.280 those receivers are fantastic. If Terris Marshall had gone in 2:13:44.280 --> 2:13:45.760 the first round, it would have been a good pick. 2:13:45.920 --> 2:13:49.000 I think I heard Tennessee really really liked him at 2:13:49.040 --> 2:13:51.080 twenty two. But there's some medical thing that we're dealing 2:13:51.120 --> 2:13:55.120 with him. Sorry, his knee deemed okay. We had him. 2:13:55.400 --> 2:13:57.320 We had him mocked the other day in our second 2:13:57.440 --> 2:13:59.440 round mock. We had him at sixty to the Saints. 2:13:59.560 --> 2:14:02.080 So the selection, so, I mean, this is right around 2:14:02.080 --> 2:14:04.640 where we thought he was gonna go. We're doing It's 2:14:04.640 --> 2:14:07.480 almost like that sometimes sometimes what do you get out 2:14:07.520 --> 2:14:09.760 of Terroris Marshall? Though here Dane, because I mean, like 2:14:09.840 --> 2:14:11.760 you said, a different type of receiver, But this is 2:14:12.080 --> 2:14:15.400 a baller. I mean a guy that this is a 2:14:15.560 --> 2:14:18.760 very wide receiver class that's actually pretty pretty undersized, but 2:14:18.880 --> 2:14:22.080 he's one of the opposite He's a big, big athlete 2:14:22.120 --> 2:14:24.880 who can run. He's got four four oh speed, a 2:14:25.080 --> 2:14:28.240 little unrefined as a route runner, but he could play inside, 2:14:28.240 --> 2:14:30.440 can play outside, and it's easy to overlook him when 2:14:30.440 --> 2:14:34.040 you talk about Justin Jefferson Jamar Chase. He had double 2:14:34.080 --> 2:14:37.440 digit touchdown catches each of the last two years, which 2:14:37.600 --> 2:14:40.360 you know is pretty impressive. I know some scouts were 2:14:40.440 --> 2:14:42.160 kind of put off that he opted out the week 2:14:42.200 --> 2:14:47.640 of the Alabama game. Uh that the knee was but 2:14:48.080 --> 2:14:50.560 that's if you ding him for that, you didn't will 2:14:50.560 --> 2:14:53.120 pay attention to LSU season. That guy went out there 2:14:53.440 --> 2:14:57.720 did everything. Yeah, well, I mean you're getting crushed by 2:14:57.720 --> 2:15:00.840 two LSU guys. Yeah, because we'll pass about they would 2:15:00.840 --> 2:15:03.560 throw him the ball fifteen times and then he'd make 2:15:03.640 --> 2:15:06.120 fourteen catches and then it's like they put the whole 2:15:06.200 --> 2:15:08.560 defense on him and they still couldn't do anything with 2:15:08.640 --> 2:15:12.320 anybody others. Truth about, you finish the job. Yeah. The 2:15:12.400 --> 2:15:14.640 other thing that bothered it is just he the effort 2:15:14.680 --> 2:15:17.240 as a blocker was terrible. But I think as a talent, 2:15:17.480 --> 2:15:20.080 it's easy to like this guy. Uh, as long as 2:15:20.120 --> 2:15:22.440 the medicals are okay, this could be a steel So 2:15:22.520 --> 2:15:24.240 the n the knee was a concern for you though 2:15:24.320 --> 2:15:26.880 right day, Not for me, but for teams. Oh yeah, 2:15:26.880 --> 2:15:28.440 I will. I think it was. I think they played 2:15:28.560 --> 2:15:30.760 Arkansas Terrists got up and like gave it. But he 2:15:30.840 --> 2:15:33.600 gave like a speech to the team about staying committed, 2:15:33.640 --> 2:15:35.920 and then they played and he was like, you know what, 2:15:36.200 --> 2:15:39.000 screw you guys. I'm not risking my life against Alabama. 2:15:39.080 --> 2:15:41.480 And I don't blame him one bit. He's actually started 2:15:41.520 --> 2:15:43.840 to play it better. Hey, he did it. He did 2:15:43.880 --> 2:15:47.120 it with true freshman quarterbacks. Last What a miracle season 2:15:47.200 --> 2:15:50.120 that was. Go go get him, Terriss. It'll be way 2:15:50.200 --> 2:15:53.840 more fun next year than it was. No struggle to 2:15:54.040 --> 2:15:57.320 struggle just to get happy. We paid, We paid for 2:15:57.400 --> 2:16:00.360 twenty nineteen in a big way. Yeah, you want a 2:16:00.400 --> 2:16:05.640 National champions played for sure? One Louisiana guy too. Who's 2:16:05.640 --> 2:16:08.160 going to be the newest Louisiana guys? The New Orleans 2:16:08.200 --> 2:16:10.640 Saints are on the clock. Let's step aside. You're listening 2:16:10.960 --> 2:16:13.080 to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one on 2:16:13.200 --> 2:16:18.120 five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com back 2:16:18.160 --> 2:16:20.520 on the internet side. Just as Roger Goodell takes the 2:16:20.600 --> 2:16:23.920 podium in Cleveland, Ohio. Glad you're with us here on 2:16:24.080 --> 2:16:26.800 the draft, Joe Kyle Yeoman's jeffkavan On, Brian brought us, 2:16:27.160 --> 2:16:30.640 Dane Brugler and David Hellman. I'm gonna read this right 2:16:30.680 --> 2:16:33.440 as he's reading the pick. Miller Lte great taste, only 2:16:33.560 --> 2:16:36.120 ninety six calories, three point two carbs. However, you and 2:16:36.200 --> 2:16:38.640 your friends are enjoying Miller time. You can have the 2:16:38.680 --> 2:16:42.160 original light beer delivered by going to miller Lank dot com, 2:16:42.320 --> 2:16:46.160 floor forward slashed, buy beer online and find the delivery 2:16:46.200 --> 2:16:50.400 options near you. Celebrate responsibly brewing company fort Worth, Texas 2:16:50.520 --> 2:16:54.920 Miller Lite only ninety six calories and well, they've definitely 2:16:55.000 --> 2:16:59.120 provided us with a fantastic weekend full of Miller time. 2:16:59.160 --> 2:17:02.880 And by the way, Pete Warner, linebacker out of Ohio's state, 2:17:03.160 --> 2:17:08.160 is off the board. Brian likes it. Yeah, yeah, David, 2:17:08.160 --> 2:17:11.240 if you got him, go ahead, I mean, I'll Werner's 2:17:11.480 --> 2:17:13.440 uh for me. He's a little bit of a slow 2:17:13.480 --> 2:17:15.800 burn just in terms of appreciating what he does because 2:17:15.879 --> 2:17:18.320 nothing really stands out about him. But he just doesn't 2:17:18.360 --> 2:17:19.840 have a ton of holes in his game. He's not 2:17:19.840 --> 2:17:22.440 an a lead athlete. He's uh, you know, but he 2:17:22.560 --> 2:17:25.320 can cover, uh you know, he can blitz. He's a 2:17:25.440 --> 2:17:29.280 reliable guy, former safety who's just been a solid player 2:17:29.280 --> 2:17:32.720 for Ohio State. Played inside player outside. So he comes 2:17:32.800 --> 2:17:35.160 in as a guy that will probably never make a 2:17:35.240 --> 2:17:37.640 Pro Bowl, but he's gonna be a solid starter for 2:17:37.720 --> 2:17:40.640 the Saints, who just love it, uh collecting these Ohio 2:17:40.720 --> 2:17:42.600 State players. I'll tell you what, Man, this guy has 2:17:42.640 --> 2:17:45.160 been a safety, He's been a special teamer. He's a 2:17:45.280 --> 2:17:48.360 superpress of the way he's around player. Yeah, he's a 2:17:48.480 --> 2:17:51.360 tackling machine. I mean, I'm watching that tape and I'm going, man, 2:17:51.440 --> 2:17:53.480 he is making every one of these. He's number twenty. 2:17:53.520 --> 2:17:56.280 He's a powerful guy. He is not afraid to lay 2:17:56.320 --> 2:17:59.480 the hammer to a ballcare downhill player when he sees it, 2:17:59.600 --> 2:18:01.800 He's want to get it. And I think he has 2:18:01.800 --> 2:18:03.560 a nice feel for how to play in coverage. We 2:18:03.600 --> 2:18:06.959 always talk about these linebackers that have that can play 2:18:07.040 --> 2:18:10.040 in coverage, and I think I think the secondary part 2:18:10.320 --> 2:18:12.240 of being a strong safety and his career kind of 2:18:12.280 --> 2:18:14.320 helps him this way a little bit. But you know, 2:18:14.320 --> 2:18:17.160 I wouldn't say he's perfect with the technique, but he 2:18:17.280 --> 2:18:20.120 does have awareness. He does have the instinct. But when 2:18:20.320 --> 2:18:22.760 and when it comes to making stops, if he gets 2:18:22.920 --> 2:18:25.560 if he gets near a receiver, he knows how to 2:18:25.680 --> 2:18:27.160 knock the ball the way. I give him a lot 2:18:27.200 --> 2:18:30.279 of credit for that, I assume based on that glowing review, 2:18:30.440 --> 2:18:31.880 which I mean, I think he's a good player too. 2:18:32.000 --> 2:18:34.760 But are you at all surprised that he went before 2:18:34.879 --> 2:18:39.360 Browning and Cox? Uh? Not? Not Cox? Not Cox. I 2:18:39.440 --> 2:18:42.320 think everybody understands what Browning is. Browning is a big 2:18:42.720 --> 2:18:46.240 Browning is like when the old like a nineteen seventies linebacker. 2:18:46.320 --> 2:18:49.280 To me, that big, heavy athletic though, But he has 2:18:49.600 --> 2:18:52.400 just I'm just saying, the bigger guy. I think people 2:18:52.400 --> 2:18:54.720 are playing with these smaller, quicker guys, and that's why 2:18:55.080 --> 2:18:57.160 I'm watching these games every week and I'm seeing but 2:18:57.200 --> 2:18:59.879 guys like Bolden, those guys make plays. Those smaller short 2:19:00.120 --> 2:19:03.000 guys run into the football. They can't be blocked. I 2:19:03.040 --> 2:19:05.680 think with Baron Browning, it's just that some of it 2:19:05.879 --> 2:19:09.480 is projection. Because Ohio State, Pete Warner and tough Borland 2:19:09.560 --> 2:19:14.840 were they're linebackers and Browning existed kind of out here 2:19:15.120 --> 2:19:18.000 in the overhang. But like, I saw good things from 2:19:18.080 --> 2:19:21.520 him in terms of coverage, explosiveness, blitzing. He can rush 2:19:21.560 --> 2:19:23.520 the pett like. I like Browning a lot. I did 2:19:23.600 --> 2:19:26.040 like Browning better than Warner. But Warner, I think is 2:19:26.040 --> 2:19:28.400 an easier projection because he's just gonna go do what 2:19:28.520 --> 2:19:34.120 he's been doing. Who's the other guy? Higher floor, lower ceiling. Yeah, 2:19:34.480 --> 2:19:37.680 and Jabrille Cox to me, he's a tough one because 2:19:37.720 --> 2:19:40.680 he cover. It's so much about covering now, and he 2:19:40.760 --> 2:19:42.200 can do it like he can go cover a tight 2:19:42.320 --> 2:19:45.080 end no problem. He's a bad run player as a linebacker. 2:19:45.240 --> 2:19:47.880 That's weird. We'd had a conversation about that on one 2:19:47.920 --> 2:19:51.199 of the last draft shows, and I hear everything you're saying. 2:19:51.200 --> 2:19:53.560 I just think coverage is important in the NFL right now. 2:19:54.640 --> 2:19:58.000 Who'll go in the next twenty or so picks. That's 2:19:58.000 --> 2:20:01.320 a wide variance. That's how Wine marrits. It's an end 2:20:01.360 --> 2:20:03.880 of the second, early mid third. I hear you. I 2:20:03.959 --> 2:20:07.640 mean that's from now until the Cowboys select pretty much. 2:20:07.760 --> 2:20:10.520 I mean the Bills, Packers, Chiefs, Buccaneers, rounding out the 2:20:10.520 --> 2:20:13.360 second round, and then we're onto the third. Cowboys are 2:20:13.560 --> 2:20:16.920 fifteen picks away at the moment at seventy five, getting 2:20:16.959 --> 2:20:27.080 pretty close here here on the Draft Show. Continuing on 2:20:27.320 --> 2:20:29.600 our coverage of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on 2:20:29.640 --> 2:20:32.600 a one oh five three The fan End, Dallas Cowboys 2:20:32.680 --> 2:20:35.520 dot Com. Glad you're with us. The New Orleans Saints 2:20:35.600 --> 2:20:39.520 taking Pete Werner off the board, linebacker out of Ohio State. 2:20:39.600 --> 2:20:41.720 Brian one of your favorite guys in the draft, Yeah, 2:20:41.800 --> 2:20:44.920 he was, and I was talking about him as I 2:20:45.080 --> 2:20:47.960 just love the way he's around the football. I think 2:20:48.000 --> 2:20:51.119 he plays well in coverage. I love the way he tackles. 2:20:51.200 --> 2:20:53.960 I think he's a physical player, you know. I think 2:20:54.040 --> 2:20:56.600 with Sean that's something that's big with Sean Payton. No, 2:20:56.800 --> 2:20:59.240 he's he that's when you when you ask him about play, 2:20:59.280 --> 2:21:01.360 he's like, Hey, give me tough guys, and this is 2:21:01.440 --> 2:21:03.080 what one or do you put him on the field. 2:21:03.600 --> 2:21:06.320 He's gonna make plays for you. And and Ohio State, 2:21:06.440 --> 2:21:09.280 you know their defense is they've always had guys that 2:21:09.440 --> 2:21:11.920 come out and made plays. I just I like the 2:21:12.000 --> 2:21:14.600 fact that he was a converted strong safety playing down 2:21:14.640 --> 2:21:18.119 there and didn't bat an eye, loves being in the mix, 2:21:18.520 --> 2:21:22.480 loves trying to make some plays for you. Were right 2:21:22.560 --> 2:21:24.400 to pick what sixty one right now? Sixty one with 2:21:24.480 --> 2:21:27.240 the Bills, and we have four players from my top 2:21:27.320 --> 2:21:31.119 fifty still available. Who are those guys? Carlos Basham Wake Forrest, 2:21:31.440 --> 2:21:35.440 Elijah Molden the slot corner out of Washington, Creed Humphrey 2:21:35.840 --> 2:21:40.240 the center from Oklahoma, and Joseph Asai pass rusher Texas. 2:21:40.480 --> 2:21:43.440 Is Elijah Moulden falling here? Maybe another case of where 2:21:43.480 --> 2:21:45.200 do you play him? Small and slow? I don't think 2:21:45.240 --> 2:21:46.760 it's where you play him. It's just you have to 2:21:46.800 --> 2:21:50.360 play him a specific spot and not every team has 2:21:50.400 --> 2:21:52.560 a need there. You know, he has to be that 2:21:53.000 --> 2:21:56.640 nickel corner, that nickels safety and not every team you know, 2:21:56.760 --> 2:21:59.040 has that specific need. And so it's just with fewer 2:21:59.240 --> 2:22:02.280 spots for you to land, higher chance you're gonna fall 2:22:02.320 --> 2:22:03.840 a little bit. And I think that's the case with 2:22:03.920 --> 2:22:07.200 Molden ring with him as a safety or maybe as 2:22:07.280 --> 2:22:09.960 a nickel corner, could he potentially be going to ask 2:22:10.520 --> 2:22:13.760 Carlos was just gonna out of wait? Forest goes to 2:22:13.800 --> 2:22:17.680 the Bills. That is such a Bills pick, But they already. Yeah, 2:22:17.760 --> 2:22:20.400 so the Bills just want a bunch of unathletic ends. 2:22:20.600 --> 2:22:25.960 Well a last year Bashim though, though I do. Yeah, 2:22:26.040 --> 2:22:28.400 it's important when you make a giant mistake in the 2:22:28.480 --> 2:22:31.040 first round with Rousseau to pick a better player that 2:22:31.200 --> 2:22:33.600 he can back up in the second. So Basham can 2:22:33.680 --> 2:22:36.680 go play and Rousseau can watch. So that'll be good. 2:22:36.800 --> 2:22:37.880 How did I know you were going to say? And 2:22:37.959 --> 2:22:41.680 Basham is not unathletic. I mean he's he tested really 2:22:41.720 --> 2:22:44.720 really well, he said about Rousseau. No, I said Bashla 2:22:45.600 --> 2:22:48.200 was hating him. A guy, he's just not his go ahead. No, 2:22:48.360 --> 2:22:50.960 he's not your typically, he's not audilarry where you know 2:22:51.120 --> 2:22:54.960 that Bendy. I want the capture the corn Quitty Pay. 2:22:55.000 --> 2:22:57.600 If I'm doing that, I want the guy. This guy's 2:22:57.640 --> 2:23:01.400 more like a Rashawn about quitti Pay. Mainly, I didn't 2:23:01.400 --> 2:23:03.440 love him, and I certainly didn't want him at ten. 2:23:03.600 --> 2:23:06.360 But if I'm doing that and I hate I really 2:23:06.680 --> 2:23:09.000 I don't like this edge rusher class like you talk 2:23:09.040 --> 2:23:13.160 about um. Last night, the Saints drafted Peyton Turner. Sure 2:23:13.360 --> 2:23:15.320 that was a pen throw where I was like, oh no, 2:23:15.600 --> 2:23:18.040 this guy liked him. But the Cowboys last because I 2:23:18.080 --> 2:23:21.800 know the Cowboys. This edge rush class scares me because 2:23:22.440 --> 2:23:24.960 there's nobody that I trust. But if I'm going to 2:23:25.520 --> 2:23:27.520 draft a guy that I don't trust, give me the 2:23:27.680 --> 2:23:30.720 super bindy athletic guy like Quity Pay. I just I'll 2:23:30.760 --> 2:23:32.840 take my chance on the upside. Not saying I'll be right, 2:23:33.040 --> 2:23:36.160 That's just how I feel. Basham got bonus points from 2:23:36.200 --> 2:23:38.680 me because he and Marvin Wilson are the guys in 2:23:38.720 --> 2:23:40.640 this class that when they hit someone it looks like 2:23:40.720 --> 2:23:42.560 it hurts a lot, And I like that in a 2:23:42.600 --> 2:23:45.160 defensive lineman. When it just looks like, man, that was 2:23:45.560 --> 2:23:47.240 a lot of force that he just hit you with, 2:23:47.480 --> 2:23:50.080 you get bonus points. I will say. I think what 2:23:50.280 --> 2:23:52.320 made me really like Basham was that he went to 2:23:52.360 --> 2:23:54.720 the Senior Bowl and kicked a lot of assy. He 2:23:54.840 --> 2:23:56.440 was really good immobile, and I was like, all right, 2:23:56.520 --> 2:23:58.520 you know these are really good players like this is 2:23:58.680 --> 2:23:59.840 you know, if you can do it here, then you 2:23:59.879 --> 2:24:01.840 can probably do it in the NFL. Fashion was he 2:24:01.920 --> 2:24:03.520 was kind of a weird one because again you go 2:24:03.640 --> 2:24:06.119 in thinking a certain thing because I had his measurables 2:24:06.160 --> 2:24:07.600 and I was like, oh yeah, this dude's gonna be 2:24:07.640 --> 2:24:10.680 tossing people around, and he really wasn't. He was kind 2:24:10.720 --> 2:24:14.040 of pinballing through and not necessarily using hands or length. 2:24:14.720 --> 2:24:17.720 But you know, he's he's kind of motored up and 2:24:18.200 --> 2:24:20.040 and just kind of working his way through. And I 2:24:20.120 --> 2:24:22.359 was like, man, if you could kind of technically refine 2:24:22.440 --> 2:24:24.640 that and sort of add pass rush moves to it, 2:24:25.040 --> 2:24:26.800 that dude's got a lot. I would have loved if 2:24:26.800 --> 2:24:28.600 he would have kept falling in the kind kind of 2:24:28.640 --> 2:24:30.880 wanted him to fall as well. There's some really good 2:24:30.959 --> 2:24:34.720 names too, and I mean Elijah Moment, Molden to Tommy Togi, I, 2:24:35.200 --> 2:24:38.199 Josh Myers or a center excuse me out of Ohio 2:24:38.360 --> 2:24:41.480 State off the board here at sixty two to the packers. 2:24:41.560 --> 2:24:44.760 There's some protection for Aaron Rodgers, right, Yeah. Absolutely ain't 2:24:44.800 --> 2:24:47.440 gonna get him receiver, are they No, That's what I 2:24:47.520 --> 2:24:49.400 was laughing at. He quitting, He's gonna retire. I had 2:24:49.400 --> 2:24:53.320 a text He's just saying, Katie's like, watching what they're 2:24:53.320 --> 2:24:56.279 gonna do. They're not gonna get my guy receiver at all. Katie, 2:24:56.280 --> 2:24:59.160 You're right, and you're listening. I'll say this. You got 2:24:59.360 --> 2:25:02.880 Jordan Love exactly. I think this is the problem. I 2:25:02.959 --> 2:25:06.440 have with Josh Myers. I think he looks the part, 2:25:06.800 --> 2:25:09.879 but athletically, I think he doesn't move all that well. 2:25:10.200 --> 2:25:12.600 Am I wrong about that day? I mean there's he 2:25:12.800 --> 2:25:15.760 snaps the ball that he hops into his block. He 2:25:15.879 --> 2:25:17.880 really didn't move his feet all that well. I thought 2:25:17.879 --> 2:25:19.720 there were snaps where he looked off balance and he 2:25:19.800 --> 2:25:23.200 finds himself on the ground. But there's no smoothness to 2:25:23.320 --> 2:25:25.760 his game. It's like he hops and then he's kind 2:25:25.800 --> 2:25:28.040 of like very herky jerky in the way he played. 2:25:28.560 --> 2:25:31.960 I thought his highlights their role and he's kind of surviving. Yeah, 2:25:32.480 --> 2:25:35.720 his feet just don't seem to help him all that much, right, 2:25:35.879 --> 2:25:38.119 I he's one of those guys that you know, finds 2:25:38.160 --> 2:25:40.879 a way to get stay connected and it doesn't look pretty, 2:25:41.240 --> 2:25:44.039 but he's he finds a way just to stay connected 2:25:44.040 --> 2:25:45.760 to his blocks. But I think you're I think you're right. 2:25:45.800 --> 2:25:49.879 He's physical, he'll play with power. Uh, you know, he's 2:25:49.879 --> 2:25:53.280 a better run blocker than he is his pass protector. 2:25:54.200 --> 2:25:56.480 But I do think the center guard versatility is a 2:25:56.560 --> 2:26:00.440 selling point with him. Uh, he's well schooled. It's yeah, 2:26:00.480 --> 2:26:03.960 he doesn't have necessarily the elite physical traits you're looking 2:26:04.000 --> 2:26:06.600 forward like Frank rag Now, who's just kind of getting 2:26:06.600 --> 2:26:10.720 the way Belly survived. But Frank just got his fifth 2:26:10.800 --> 2:26:13.720 year option picked up, So I was wrong about him. Yeah, 2:26:14.280 --> 2:26:18.160 he's the guy that played with a broken throat, wasn't God, Dave, 2:26:18.240 --> 2:26:20.040 I told you to tell you. I went on Raiders 2:26:20.120 --> 2:26:23.840 dot Com on their podcast. I apologize Tost Colston uh 2:26:24.000 --> 2:26:27.200 the Coaston Miller. I apologize the Raider Nation for dinging 2:26:27.240 --> 2:26:29.960 their guy. Good job, Eddie, letting you set the record straight. 2:26:30.160 --> 2:26:31.800 He did, Eddie. Eddie goes, hey, Brian, what do you 2:26:31.879 --> 2:26:33.360 think I said? Hey, by the way, Eddy, before we 2:26:33.400 --> 2:26:37.360 start this, I gotta apologize the Raider Nation for Colston Miller. 2:26:37.440 --> 2:26:43.960 Colton Colton Millerton trying to say, is now trying to 2:26:43.959 --> 2:26:46.000 get the Miller part right? I messed up the other part. 2:26:46.080 --> 2:26:48.640 One more apology coming. Look at that world champion, Dave. 2:26:48.720 --> 2:26:51.160 That's a team that knows what they're doing. A good player. 2:26:51.240 --> 2:26:53.560 I just like y'all just take it personally when teams 2:26:53.600 --> 2:26:56.199 disagree with you. That's all. I'm just saying. The Chiefs, 2:26:56.879 --> 2:26:58.879 that's a good team. When you say, Dave probably favorites 2:26:58.879 --> 2:27:00.560 to win the Super Bowl next year are pretty good. 2:27:00.720 --> 2:27:03.080 Smart team, good smart team. Well run well yeah, well 2:27:03.160 --> 2:27:06.480 run you know what they need? Yeah, they went and 2:27:06.560 --> 2:27:09.160 got one. She'd a nice, smart and stinctual player, makes 2:27:09.160 --> 2:27:10.879 a lot of plays. What do they need here, Dane? 2:27:12.560 --> 2:27:16.280 We can see well they addressed offensive line obviously. With 2:27:16.560 --> 2:27:24.120 Orlando Brown corner center. Most people agree that he's better 2:27:24.200 --> 2:27:26.080 than the guy that just went before. Would be one 2:27:26.080 --> 2:27:29.320 of those people. I mean, I agree. I Creed Humphrey 2:27:29.440 --> 2:27:32.000 was my top center this year. Josh Myers is actually 2:27:32.040 --> 2:27:35.560 my third center. But I think it was created Dickerson 2:27:35.600 --> 2:27:37.720 as a center. I know he's a guard for me, 2:27:38.080 --> 2:27:40.880 Dickerson as a center, So I had Dickerson above this guy. Well, 2:27:41.160 --> 2:27:44.039 with Humphrey, I thought he held himself. The same thing 2:27:44.080 --> 2:27:46.720 with the conversation with Basham at the Senior Bowl. Same 2:27:46.800 --> 2:27:48.640 thing with Humphrey. He didn't really have to go, but 2:27:48.720 --> 2:27:51.119 he went and he played really well. It played guard, 2:27:51.200 --> 2:27:53.600 played center. Uh. This is just a guy that from 2:27:53.640 --> 2:27:56.959 his red shirt freshman year at Oklahoma, he was just different. 2:27:57.040 --> 2:27:59.280 You could tell watching that Oklahoma offensive line when he 2:27:59.400 --> 2:28:01.560 was uh, you know, as the central part of it. 2:28:01.840 --> 2:28:04.080 Some guys you can just tell were former wrestlers. This 2:28:04.240 --> 2:28:09.120 guy included really smart powerful, uh, stays balanced. There's just 2:28:09.200 --> 2:28:11.600 a lot to like about what he brings your football team. 2:28:11.680 --> 2:28:14.800 So I don't know that the Chiefs necessarily needed him 2:28:14.840 --> 2:28:16.440 here because of all the additions they made it in 2:28:16.440 --> 2:28:18.959 their offensive line. But I mean, do you think they 2:28:19.000 --> 2:28:21.680 were affected at all by how the Super Bowl went? Yeah? Probably. 2:28:21.800 --> 2:28:23.480 Now they're like, okay, let's make sure that if we 2:28:23.640 --> 2:28:26.520 lose three guys, maybe even four, that we got a 2:28:26.600 --> 2:28:29.560 guy will be an actor for seventeen games and then 2:28:29.600 --> 2:28:32.120 he'll play in the playoffs and help them. Their line 2:28:32.280 --> 2:28:36.960 looks borderline incredible right now. Right, I mean, like Orlando 2:28:37.040 --> 2:28:43.040 Brown playing left, which our guy the probably love guard 2:28:43.120 --> 2:28:45.760 after this kid signed awesome life for center. But now 2:28:45.879 --> 2:28:48.760 Creed Humphrey compete for that role. They're getting Kyle Long 2:28:48.840 --> 2:28:52.400 at right guard. They're getting the doctor back from Cover DuVernay, 2:28:53.440 --> 2:28:56.640 right doctor, who's that the right tackle? Now, Mike Remmers, 2:28:57.560 --> 2:28:59.640 that's I mean, you're not gonna have five all pros, 2:28:59.760 --> 2:29:05.039 right those guys and then right, Mike Remmers. I'll tell 2:29:05.080 --> 2:29:07.000 you a lot of shots fired at Mike Remmers. I'm 2:29:07.240 --> 2:29:10.280 saying it's a professional player. I bet you, I bet you, 2:29:10.879 --> 2:29:14.160 And it makes me so everybody's just like he's like, Oh, 2:29:14.360 --> 2:29:17.400 the Bucks proved defense wins championships. Like the Bucks proved 2:29:17.440 --> 2:29:19.280 you can take advantage of a team with no line. 2:29:19.400 --> 2:29:21.760 Good job, No, I bet the Chiefs won't let that 2:29:21.840 --> 2:29:24.080 happen again. The Bucks also proved you can throw three 2:29:24.120 --> 2:29:26.760 interceptions in a row and not have it hurt. So, 2:29:27.440 --> 2:29:30.120 you know, let's not pretend that the end result of 2:29:30.240 --> 2:29:32.959 every individual game tells us how to build a team. Exactly. 2:29:33.080 --> 2:29:35.960 Aaron Rodgers gets his thumb out and goes and scores 2:29:36.000 --> 2:29:38.200 a touchdown after any one of those picks, stamp it 2:29:38.240 --> 2:29:39.920 didn't played in the super Bowl. It's a good point. 2:29:40.120 --> 2:29:42.560 They are picking last after they won the Super Bowl, though, 2:29:42.600 --> 2:29:45.920 and they're concluding the second round with this pick. Here 2:29:46.440 --> 2:29:50.400 we had Ronnie Perkins in the mock draft. Here is 2:29:50.640 --> 2:29:54.760 edge rusher, a need four just took trying. Oh, that's right, 2:29:54.800 --> 2:29:56.720 they did take him in the first I had. We 2:29:56.840 --> 2:29:59.560 had him taking Alex Leatherwood in the first. Oh, come on, 2:29:59.720 --> 2:30:04.000 let liners go here, Ali Marpett and two Division three 2:30:04.040 --> 2:30:06.800 guys on that offensive line. That'd be fun. Ryan Jensen's 2:30:06.800 --> 2:30:08.440 a good player at center. But this wouldn't break the 2:30:08.480 --> 2:30:10.560 record though. For d two, right, because you said it 2:30:10.600 --> 2:30:12.320 was sixty one. Yeah, I believe it was sixty one. 2:30:12.840 --> 2:30:17.280 That's disappointing interior one way or the other, offense or defense. 2:30:17.440 --> 2:30:22.000 Could they take an end? Joe trying the same thing. 2:30:22.480 --> 2:30:24.920 I just said. The Bucks brought everybody back, so really 2:30:24.959 --> 2:30:27.280 it's just about depth and so offensive line would make 2:30:27.320 --> 2:30:32.320 sense here. Okay, A little surprised, but who said that 2:30:32.400 --> 2:30:34.120 this is a trade for Aaron Rodgers. This is the 2:30:34.160 --> 2:30:36.440 final pick in the second round, right, A little surprising. 2:30:36.480 --> 2:30:38.320 We have not seen a quarterback in the second round 2:30:39.000 --> 2:30:46.240 like trasker Mond. Davis Mills, Yeah, Davis Mills. Interesting thing 2:30:46.280 --> 2:30:49.320 about Kellen Mond. I'm a huge fan, big Kellen Mond guy. 2:30:49.400 --> 2:30:52.000 I'm explained, I do radio with him. He's about to 2:30:52.040 --> 2:30:54.039 kill the guy. Yeah, it's called a compliment, sandwich compliment 2:30:55.240 --> 2:30:57.880 five hours a day. I'm a big Kellen Mond guy. However, 2:30:58.240 --> 2:31:00.600 if you ask him to throw the bats the hashes, 2:31:00.680 --> 2:31:03.120 it will be incomplete every time. But I'm a big 2:31:03.200 --> 2:31:05.720 killing monk. I want to make something clear. I would 2:31:05.760 --> 2:31:07.360 not want to draft him in the second round, but 2:31:07.520 --> 2:31:11.000 quarterbacks get overdrafted. If Jalen Hurts can go fifty three, 2:31:11.120 --> 2:31:13.680 Kellen Mond could go somewhere in there. I just like 2:31:13.760 --> 2:31:16.600 to see a complete one ball outside the hashes. Davis 2:31:16.680 --> 2:31:18.920 Mills is a good player. Guys is a good Please 2:31:19.280 --> 2:31:20.800 do we think this is going to be a quarterback. 2:31:20.879 --> 2:31:22.920 I'm just saying, they've got a guy. It's forty six 2:31:23.000 --> 2:31:25.160 years old. It's probably gonna play another seven years. Yeah, 2:31:25.160 --> 2:31:26.560 I just want on a super Bowl. Will give me 2:31:26.600 --> 2:31:30.800 a Lee McNeil, Just give me a Why are you 2:31:30.920 --> 2:31:32.440 rooting for them to draft a guy you like? And 2:31:32.560 --> 2:31:34.800 domic ensues he's doing it again and get it the 2:31:34.840 --> 2:31:39.240 first time around. Look, because how the draft is, we're 2:31:39.240 --> 2:31:42.080 not all as intimately familiar with every team as Dane is. 2:31:42.160 --> 2:31:44.440 So we look at websites to see needs, and I 2:31:44.600 --> 2:31:49.840 see IOL and IDL, So Interior McNeil take him. Yeah, 2:31:50.200 --> 2:31:52.280 I'm just surprised that you're rooting for a guy you 2:31:52.400 --> 2:31:54.600 like to go off the board, because if McNeil's there 2:31:54.600 --> 2:31:58.039 when the Cowboys come up again, I would's point out, 2:31:58.200 --> 2:32:00.840 not McNeil, take a bad d tackle here, take a 2:32:00.920 --> 2:32:03.959 bad old lineman. Take a bad Marvin Wills. Hey, yeah, 2:32:04.000 --> 2:32:07.600 take Markin who might not say that. I just say, hey, 2:32:07.760 --> 2:32:09.200 the best D tackle in the country, all of a 2:32:09.240 --> 2:32:13.160 sudden bad at football. Weird. He was kind of went 2:32:13.240 --> 2:32:14.640 back and forth. I mean, I know he played in 2:32:14.680 --> 2:32:21.280 a different position, but silly silly gooses. So you like 2:32:21.480 --> 2:32:25.480 Marvin Wilson or you hated sit there line coach standard 2:32:25.480 --> 2:32:28.480 for the workout right they did? Yeah? I love going 2:32:28.520 --> 2:32:30.560 to state defensive tackle? Yeah? Did you guys need him 2:32:30.600 --> 2:32:33.440 to be dominant for all three day? The same react. 2:32:33.800 --> 2:32:36.000 I didn't even know who you were talking about because 2:32:36.040 --> 2:32:38.680 he can't be clarify. Did you see him played his 2:32:38.800 --> 2:32:41.600 first two years or we skipped it? I thought I 2:32:41.720 --> 2:32:44.200 gave him. I guess second round grade based office. He 2:32:44.200 --> 2:32:48.600 has a nineteen film, I mean solid player, but yeah, 2:32:48.959 --> 2:32:51.400 seventy five or ninety nine? Bring him to me? Did 2:32:51.440 --> 2:32:55.360 you see him play two years and name? But three 2:32:55.440 --> 2:32:57.720 years announcing? Is he announcing the film? They put up 2:32:57.760 --> 2:32:59.320 a lower third. I was gonna have you try and 2:32:59.400 --> 2:33:02.400 guess who this was. It's machine gun Kelly, Cleveland guy. Yeah, 2:33:02.520 --> 2:33:04.520 he's a big Cleveland guy. Well, I knew he was 2:33:04.560 --> 2:33:07.400 gonna pick. What's he doing? I think he's rapping him? 2:33:07.440 --> 2:33:11.800 Probably it's like, what the isn't he dating somebody famous? Yes? 2:33:12.120 --> 2:33:14.400 I think there's like something going on with like Addison 2:33:14.480 --> 2:33:18.360 Ray or the NFL Draft is only No, that's what 2:33:18.440 --> 2:33:21.119 it was. Guys, Come on, I said, Addison Ray, that's bad. 2:33:21.959 --> 2:33:25.760 Um Gun Kelly just do I think he just dropped 2:33:25.800 --> 2:33:27.800 the mic and walked away. Did he announce the selection? 2:33:27.959 --> 2:33:29.840 I bet he. He probably just had a cool like 2:33:30.000 --> 2:33:33.360 Cleveland rap, you know, just like oh the Cleveland Yeah 2:33:33.440 --> 2:33:38.400 that Ohio, Yeah, I can see that. Dane'll get the 2:33:38.480 --> 2:33:42.240 inside scoop. Probably what machine gun Kelly was rapping? What 2:33:42.440 --> 2:33:45.320 was a guy machine quarterback? When there a quarterback? Oh 2:33:45.400 --> 2:33:51.480 yea irrelevant, Yeah, Chad Chad Kelly maybe five years ago. 2:33:51.520 --> 2:33:56.440 Fight report on him? I mean, yeah, there's an automatic 2:33:56.520 --> 2:33:59.320 weapons situation and a fight at up high school game 2:33:59.400 --> 2:34:03.039 for no reason as an adult. Okay, the first round 2:34:03.080 --> 2:34:05.080 of the draft is a big deal. Obviously their ratings 2:34:05.120 --> 2:34:07.840 were crazy last night, but like this is this is 2:34:07.920 --> 2:34:10.520 for the crazy dorks like us, like this were you 2:34:10.560 --> 2:34:12.680 win championships. But no, I get that, but like, why 2:34:12.720 --> 2:34:15.879 are they doing all this rigamar role for like casual viewers? 2:34:16.000 --> 2:34:18.360 As if a casual viewer is watching the draft at 2:34:18.400 --> 2:34:20.520 eight thirty on a Friday night, Like they're trying to 2:34:20.600 --> 2:34:23.160 pull the casual in with machine Gun Kelly. It ain't 2:34:23.200 --> 2:34:25.920 gonna work. The casual fan is watching this from a bar, 2:34:26.200 --> 2:34:28.320 is what's happened? Let's see if here, how do you? 2:34:28.440 --> 2:34:30.039 How do you? How do you watching? You can't hear 2:34:30.560 --> 2:34:32.400 I mean we can't hear each now. To be fair, 2:34:32.600 --> 2:34:36.640 we were told not to. Yeah, that's fair, unfortunate. We 2:34:36.760 --> 2:34:38.280 need to know if there was a rating spike at 2:34:38.320 --> 2:34:40.840 eight thirty three when Machine Gun Kelly took this. Oh 2:34:40.879 --> 2:34:43.840 my god, machine Gun Kelly's gonna write an ode to Cleveland. 2:34:44.120 --> 2:34:46.400 Will Megan Fox be there? Oh my goodness, there's so 2:34:46.520 --> 2:34:49.680 much injured. Megan Fox. Yeah, so I'm gonna fight together. 2:34:49.959 --> 2:34:52.680 I was thinking Jack Harlowe with, uh, this is some 2:34:52.840 --> 2:34:57.080 real This is some real Day three conversation here. Kardashian 2:34:57.240 --> 2:35:01.840 was sparker, so too, do you guys out? We are 2:35:01.920 --> 2:35:04.160 at the end of the second round the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 2:35:04.200 --> 2:35:06.520 By the way, one of disrespect, Marvin Wilson, I ruined 2:35:06.520 --> 2:35:11.800 your show. Sorry. The fan host Zach Wolchuk Uh just 2:35:11.959 --> 2:35:14.680 texted me. He's killing me for messing that up about 2:35:14.800 --> 2:35:20.640 Megan Fox and Machine Key. It's Kyle Trask going to 2:35:20.760 --> 2:35:23.280 Tampa Bay. We thought it could be a quarterback. Here. 2:35:23.320 --> 2:35:24.960 There's the reason I was in a war room at 2:35:25.000 --> 2:35:28.200 one time. This is a Mason Rudolph clone. For for 2:35:28.320 --> 2:35:31.480 better or for worse. Oh yeah, smiles, Garrett's gonna whoop him. Yeah, 2:35:32.160 --> 2:35:34.360 I mean I just killed the kid. No for I 2:35:34.440 --> 2:35:36.680 mean good and bad. I don't do you think Kyle 2:35:36.720 --> 2:35:39.600 Trash can be a I would have taken Mills ormand 2:35:39.680 --> 2:35:42.800 over him, right, I mean Kyle trask is. I think 2:35:42.840 --> 2:35:45.480 the timing is there. He's a smart kid, tough kid. 2:35:46.040 --> 2:35:49.600 Uh that's kid. But he moves with heavy feet. You know, 2:35:49.680 --> 2:35:51.720 It's like he's got cinder blocks for feet, and that 2:35:51.879 --> 2:35:54.800 that really hinders what he's able to do the second 2:35:54.879 --> 2:35:59.440 reaction plays. His arm is only average, but you know what, 2:35:59.680 --> 2:36:02.000 he's into a quarterback room with Tom Brady and it 2:36:02.040 --> 2:36:03.640 maybe that'll help him well. And he made it. I 2:36:03.720 --> 2:36:06.080 thought he made a giant mistake because, like you talk 2:36:06.120 --> 2:36:07.880 about how you don't want guys to opt out, you 2:36:07.879 --> 2:36:09.640 wanted to finish the season and all that. But when 2:36:09.720 --> 2:36:12.160 Kedarius Tony and Kyle Pitts and there might have been 2:36:12.200 --> 2:36:14.560 other guys who opted for the bowl game, that was bad. 2:36:14.720 --> 2:36:16.120 I went on the radio and I was like Kyle 2:36:16.120 --> 2:36:18.160 Trust should not play in this game because what's gonna 2:36:18.160 --> 2:36:20.280 happen is he's not gonna play well and it's gonna 2:36:20.280 --> 2:36:22.840 be held against him. Ride with what you've already done. 2:36:23.280 --> 2:36:26.720 Your ballers aren't playing, you don't play. Joldan. I was 2:36:26.840 --> 2:36:29.320 at that game, so I never got to watch the broadcast. 2:36:29.520 --> 2:36:34.880 But was he benched or was he hurt? Was he like, yeah, 2:36:34.879 --> 2:36:36.840 I think he was Mercy Ruler. I think the team 2:36:36.920 --> 2:36:40.680 went Sorry, dude, that's ugly, have a seat. He seemed 2:36:40.760 --> 2:36:43.120 he seems like a great guy. I'm just I've never 2:36:43.320 --> 2:36:47.400 been impressed. And I just remember thinking back in December, 2:36:48.440 --> 2:36:50.959 if they if this guy wins the Heisman over Davante Smith, 2:36:51.000 --> 2:36:54.200 I'm gonna freak out because you know, and college football 2:36:54.240 --> 2:36:56.480 does that sometimes where they give the award to the best, 2:36:56.760 --> 2:36:58.680 you know, the best stats instead of the best player. 2:36:58.879 --> 2:37:02.320 And were there the stats were incredible. I don't lose 2:37:02.360 --> 2:37:04.760 that good of a player. I'm sorry, I just don't um. 2:37:05.360 --> 2:37:07.600 I mean, and I mean, that's a great place for him. Yeah, 2:37:07.600 --> 2:37:09.480 he can go learn from the best ever and nobody's 2:37:09.520 --> 2:37:12.039 looking for him to play right now. But you take 2:37:12.080 --> 2:37:14.600 away that game where he played without a good players 2:37:14.800 --> 2:37:17.800 this season looks a lot like Mac Jones. Yeah, that's 2:37:17.800 --> 2:37:20.320 a good point. I mean, no, I get that. I 2:37:20.360 --> 2:37:22.480 mean that's why he was a Heisman Trophy. Final stats 2:37:22.520 --> 2:37:26.160 were absolutely incredible, but if you turn on the games, 2:37:26.440 --> 2:37:29.480 it doesn't look as impressive as the numbers would suggest. Well, 2:37:29.520 --> 2:37:31.040 that's just it. Yeah, there's not a ton there to 2:37:31.120 --> 2:37:34.280 get excited about. I think he was a great fit 2:37:34.480 --> 2:37:37.600 with Dan Mullen. I thought he his understanding of the offense, 2:37:38.040 --> 2:37:40.400 his understanding of where to go with the football is 2:37:40.520 --> 2:37:43.240 really really impressive. I just keep coming back to that 2:37:43.360 --> 2:37:46.840 lack of mobility as something that is really going to 2:37:46.920 --> 2:37:49.840 hold him back. It's going to lower that ceiling for 2:37:49.959 --> 2:37:53.120 him as a quarterback. And to me, that's just you 2:37:53.160 --> 2:37:55.440 don't draft a quarterback like that in the first two rounds. 2:37:55.600 --> 2:37:57.560 If you're drafting a quarterback in the first two rounds, 2:37:57.840 --> 2:38:00.680 you're saying, we think that you can start for one day. 2:38:01.080 --> 2:38:02.920 And I just have a hard time seeing an NFL 2:38:03.000 --> 2:38:05.040 starter with Kyle Trask. Yeah, he's got a long way 2:38:05.080 --> 2:38:07.320 to go. By the way, that was the conclusion of 2:38:07.440 --> 2:38:10.480 the second round. First pick of the third round, Andre 2:38:10.640 --> 2:38:13.960 Cisco's safety from Syracuse. We're gonna hit that. On the 2:38:14.080 --> 2:38:16.200 other side of the break, you're listening to the twenty 2:38:16.280 --> 2:38:18.480 twenty one NFL Draft on one oh five three The 2:38:18.560 --> 2:38:22.920 Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. You guys ready for 2:38:23.000 --> 2:38:25.879 my Cisco scouting report. Let's do it, shared Dallas Cowboys 2:38:25.920 --> 2:38:28.640 dot Com people. We're friends here, Absolutely, let's do it. 2:38:29.240 --> 2:38:32.600 Let's get real. You did that on the radio. I 2:38:32.680 --> 2:38:35.360 mean you made a different noise, but was it What 2:38:35.560 --> 2:38:37.160 was the noise you made on the radio? I don't know. 2:38:37.280 --> 2:38:41.200 He went Andre, Cisco has a ton of interceptions, and 2:38:41.280 --> 2:38:44.160 I've never seen somebody give up more touchdowns. So I 2:38:44.200 --> 2:38:46.040 don't know the official numbers on it, but I watched 2:38:46.080 --> 2:38:47.760 three or four games of Cisco and he gave up 2:38:47.760 --> 2:38:51.039 at least seven touchdowns. And I'm like, you're my free safety. Nah, 2:38:51.120 --> 2:38:55.240 that ain't gonna work. Terrifies me. I don't want boom 2:38:55.320 --> 2:38:57.880 or bust. I want only boom either that or bore me. 2:38:58.520 --> 2:39:00.640 You know, just be back there and don't anything happened. 2:39:00.879 --> 2:39:05.400 He's back there letting everything happen. Scouting report. That's Cisco 2:39:05.680 --> 2:39:08.680 in the books. One way to do it, Dan, What 2:39:08.760 --> 2:39:17.039 did you think about? I mean, look, peace or fam 2:39:17.120 --> 2:39:20.440 and I mentioned it earlier, and that's basically what Jeff saying. Uh, 2:39:20.680 --> 2:39:24.120 you don't know what I'm saying either. He will have 2:39:24.240 --> 2:39:26.320 his interceptions, but he's gonna give up a lot of plays. 2:39:26.400 --> 2:39:29.480 And as as the last line of defense, you cannot 2:39:29.920 --> 2:39:33.320 have those mental mistakes. You cannot have those lapses and 2:39:33.480 --> 2:39:37.800 judgment where one false step one, uh, you know, wrong 2:39:37.879 --> 2:39:41.440 decision one, wrong key and you're giving up a touchdown. 2:39:41.480 --> 2:39:43.840 That's that's a big deal when your mistakes are affecting 2:39:43.879 --> 2:39:47.480 the scoreboard. Sou Cisco, I wasn't a huge fan. It's 2:39:47.520 --> 2:39:49.480 a little early for him. I thought, you know, maybe 2:39:49.520 --> 2:39:51.240 towards the back end of round three, that's when you 2:39:51.240 --> 2:39:53.800 start to think about him. But you know, we're getting 2:39:53.800 --> 2:39:56.480 to the point where safety's flying off the board. What 2:39:56.680 --> 2:39:59.360 three in the second round? Now a fourth here, I 2:39:59.400 --> 2:40:02.600 don't maybe be Jamar Johnson goes and later this round, 2:40:02.680 --> 2:40:05.080 but not many safeties left in the top one hundred. 2:40:05.800 --> 2:40:08.680 Our Darius Washington's just outside the top one hundred though 2:40:08.720 --> 2:40:11.920 you both know that. My guys, late, you just gotta 2:40:12.080 --> 2:40:13.880 you have to. I have to wait four years for 2:40:13.959 --> 2:40:15.800 the payoff to look back. And like that's why I 2:40:15.879 --> 2:40:17.840 ranked him there because you be like, why is your 2:40:17.840 --> 2:40:19.560 guy still on the board. You said he's the thirtieth 2:40:19.600 --> 2:40:22.920 best player, you know, you know damn well that if 2:40:23.000 --> 2:40:25.720 he has like a great first month of a rookie season, 2:40:25.840 --> 2:40:29.120 you're gonna be proclaiming your win from the mountaintops. Oh 2:40:29.160 --> 2:40:31.240 that's how we were about Antoine Winfield. Yeah right, I 2:40:31.240 --> 2:40:33.199 just seemed to make the fifty three. Yea, like Sey 2:40:33.320 --> 2:40:36.240 told you, monster, it's on the team. Did they may 2:40:36.320 --> 2:40:42.400 like Gillespie safety safety Gillespie. I like him, Adam round guy. Yeah, No, 2:40:42.520 --> 2:40:45.000 I did like Gillespie. I just it bothered me how 2:40:45.040 --> 2:40:47.400 he just never made plays on the football. I mean 2:40:47.480 --> 2:40:49.520 just it's hard to find tape where he made plays 2:40:49.520 --> 2:40:51.080 in the football. You watch the first ten plays, the 2:40:51.120 --> 2:40:53.440 Alabama tape if you're like, all right, first round Hall 2:40:53.440 --> 2:40:57.120 of Fame. Yeah exactly. But I don't know. I I 2:40:57.240 --> 2:40:59.400 made the mistake of watching that tape. Like there's like 2:40:59.440 --> 2:41:01.640 the second tape I watched, and you know, the third 2:41:01.720 --> 2:41:05.480 and fourth tape. I just I struggled to really love him. 2:41:05.840 --> 2:41:07.520 I think he's a Day three player. I think he's 2:41:07.520 --> 2:41:10.160 an early Day three player, like fourth round maybe. See. 2:41:10.200 --> 2:41:12.879 I actually only watched the first ten plays of Alabama, 2:41:13.000 --> 2:41:15.040 so I'm hoping the Cowboys get him here in the third. 2:41:15.560 --> 2:41:21.280 How about the kid from Florida State, Hamsam. Yeah, he's 2:41:21.320 --> 2:41:24.360 tough because he's I don't where do you play? Is 2:41:24.400 --> 2:41:26.200 he a box guy? I don't know that you're really 2:41:26.200 --> 2:41:28.280 trusting him in coverage. I mean he's kind of like 2:41:28.360 --> 2:41:31.160 Diablo where you almost some teams are gonna play him 2:41:31.160 --> 2:41:36.200 a linebacker. Um, he's tough and he's been banged up 2:41:36.280 --> 2:41:38.080 quite a bit. Hope that he goes Okay? Do you 2:41:38.160 --> 2:41:41.480 think he goes in this round? I did not include 2:41:41.560 --> 2:41:45.480 him in my Day two mock draft. He was one 2:41:45.480 --> 2:41:47.600 of those guys like the first five that I just 2:41:47.760 --> 2:41:50.840 left out. So I think it's possible, but it's probably 2:41:50.879 --> 2:41:53.520 borderline while we're on the pick or while we're on 2:41:53.560 --> 2:41:56.760 the topic of safeties. Another safety I'd kind of heard 2:41:57.000 --> 2:42:00.720 that was conversated about around the Cowboys in this area 2:42:00.879 --> 2:42:06.760 Paris Ford out of Pittsburgh where good Uda. I wouldn't 2:42:06.840 --> 2:42:10.640 touch that later, I legitimately late, I legitimately if you 2:42:10.720 --> 2:42:12.320 want to see my board, do you hear him for 2:42:12.400 --> 2:42:14.720 this team? Check it out a little bit. This is 2:42:14.760 --> 2:42:17.400 where my board and runs out where the pink ends 2:42:17.600 --> 2:42:22.280 and that's four two spots below the pink. That's so bad. 2:42:22.440 --> 2:42:26.199 That's especially crossing my fingers hoping he's not a pick anytime. Something. 2:42:26.440 --> 2:42:31.040 I'm kind of hopious. Like the Cowboys, I only got 2:42:31.080 --> 2:42:33.480 to like one hundred and fifty five hundred and sixty guys, 2:42:33.520 --> 2:42:36.400 and he's legitimately ranked the lowest of the guys I watched. 2:42:36.640 --> 2:42:41.160 He's not good. Paris forward Randall, let's go. I'll take 2:42:41.240 --> 2:42:43.680 John Randall on the team right now. I think so too. 2:42:43.720 --> 2:42:46.640 That'd be nice. I just think anger will get him 2:42:46.640 --> 2:42:52.360 to the football crazy. He was inducted twelve or eleven 2:42:52.480 --> 2:42:54.480 years ago. Now, yeah, we're into the Hall of Fame. 2:42:55.600 --> 2:43:00.800 Gosh scouted him. There's another quarterback. Keep drafting bad quarter quarterback. 2:43:00.920 --> 2:43:03.320 Kellen Mond Texas A and M is off the board 2:43:03.360 --> 2:43:06.320 to Minnesota at sixty six. So two of the last 2:43:06.360 --> 2:43:09.400 three picks have been quarterbacks. Dane Brugler, Yeah, and Kevin 2:43:09.480 --> 2:43:17.320 Mond is everybody. I'm not a big kelln wand fan. 2:43:17.800 --> 2:43:20.920 I would not have touched him until day three. You 2:43:21.000 --> 2:43:23.680 know what I'm I'm gonna say, yes, Yeah, I've got 2:43:23.800 --> 2:43:31.400 him in like sorry. Back here on the radio side 2:43:31.440 --> 2:43:34.400 of things, as the draft rolls on here from the 2:43:34.520 --> 2:43:37.320 Star in Frisco, two of the last three picks have 2:43:37.400 --> 2:43:40.760 been quarterbacks. We had Kyle Trash going to Florida at 2:43:40.879 --> 2:43:43.240 sixty four or excuse me, out of Florida going and 2:43:43.320 --> 2:43:46.480 staying in Florida at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at sixty four. 2:43:46.800 --> 2:43:50.039 Andre Cisco Safety out of Syracuse goes to the Jaguars 2:43:50.080 --> 2:43:52.920 at sixty five, and then Kellen Mond, Texas a and 2:43:53.120 --> 2:43:56.640 m Fighting Nagg's quarterback, goes to the Minnesota Vikings at 2:43:56.680 --> 2:43:59.680 sixty six. Brian, what are your thoughts on Kellen Mond? Yeah, 2:43:59.720 --> 2:44:01.680 I was when we were on the break there. I 2:44:01.760 --> 2:44:03.920 know Dane was not a big, big fan of this 2:44:04.280 --> 2:44:07.120 young man, and that's okay. I didn't think what day three? Right? 2:44:07.200 --> 2:44:09.040 What do you think of him? I had him in 2:44:09.040 --> 2:44:11.880 the fourth round? Okay, yeah, I mean similar, yeah, so 2:44:12.240 --> 2:44:15.080 to me. But this guy, when you watch him throw 2:44:15.160 --> 2:44:17.920 the ball, he just flicks his wrist. Oh yeah, I 2:44:18.000 --> 2:44:19.840 mean he's I mean, he's got an I'll tee. I 2:44:19.879 --> 2:44:22.200 saw this kid. This kid stole my heart in a 2:44:22.320 --> 2:44:25.320 game at seven overtime game. I was their Lawish game 2:44:25.600 --> 2:44:28.000 and Hellman were at the game. He didn't steal anything. 2:44:30.360 --> 2:44:33.000 He wouldn't let his team lose. I know that I 2:44:33.040 --> 2:44:35.360 gotta give credit for that, But I thought he was 2:44:35.400 --> 2:44:36.920 gonna be one of those guys. And it's like I 2:44:36.959 --> 2:44:38.600 thought he was gonna be the next big thing in 2:44:38.640 --> 2:44:41.600 the SEC after that, and then the following year he 2:44:41.800 --> 2:44:44.600 wasn't as good. But then you watched they came back 2:44:44.680 --> 2:44:46.720 around though I think they were ninety one. They won, 2:44:46.800 --> 2:44:49.320 they won the Orange Bowl, beat North Carolina and stuff 2:44:49.360 --> 2:44:51.880 like that. But I think this guy can throw the 2:44:51.959 --> 2:44:54.280 ball with some touch and some accuracy, and he's not 2:44:54.400 --> 2:44:56.720 afraid to let it rip or fit it into that 2:44:56.840 --> 2:44:59.520 tight window. Who'll get away with some throws that he 2:44:59.600 --> 2:45:02.640 has hope business make it, And I think that's a 2:45:02.680 --> 2:45:04.680 little bit of his talent around him. Those kids will 2:45:04.720 --> 2:45:07.680 help him make some plays. But there's some passes that 2:45:07.959 --> 2:45:10.720 he throws that won't even be close, and then he'll 2:45:10.760 --> 2:45:13.640 miss some throws the wide open receivers. But then but 2:45:13.840 --> 2:45:17.000 then there's other ones where you're kind of going, oh, okay, 2:45:17.320 --> 2:45:19.440 I see it now, I see it. So you know, 2:45:19.760 --> 2:45:21.920 I was thinking, like, man, this guy didn't take he 2:45:21.959 --> 2:45:25.160 didn't take sacks. He stands tall in the pocket. You know, 2:45:25.480 --> 2:45:27.520 people are all around him and he's throwing the ball. 2:45:28.200 --> 2:45:30.240 I was pretty I was pretty impressed by him what 2:45:30.560 --> 2:45:33.000 I saw. Fourth round guy. But that's my problem with 2:45:33.160 --> 2:45:35.600 him is depending on which tape you watch, you're coming 2:45:35.600 --> 2:45:37.960 away with a vastly different opinion. Throwing the Texas A 2:45:38.040 --> 2:45:40.400 and M or the Florida tape against Texas A and M, 2:45:40.760 --> 2:45:43.360 and you're thinking, okay Mond, he's got a shot to 2:45:43.440 --> 2:45:46.480 start in the league. But then you watch, Look is 2:45:46.520 --> 2:45:49.560 the worst tape that any of these senior quarterbacks have 2:45:49.920 --> 2:45:51.920 put out there, and it's just like, Okay, which Kellen 2:45:52.000 --> 2:45:54.760 Mond am I getting here? There's some Colin Kaepernick to 2:45:54.840 --> 2:45:58.480 his game, just that angular body type, the speed, the arm. 2:45:59.160 --> 2:46:00.800 I mean, he could put the anywhere he wants in 2:46:00.840 --> 2:46:04.120 the field. Uh So, I get why you're rolling the 2:46:04.200 --> 2:46:06.760 dice here in the third round. Quarterbacks always get overdrafted. 2:46:06.840 --> 2:46:09.800 We know that. So fourth fifth round player goes in 2:46:09.879 --> 2:46:11.840 the third Not not a huge shock for here for 2:46:11.920 --> 2:46:14.160 the Viking. If you put up bad tape against twenty 2:46:14.200 --> 2:46:17.400 twenty LSU, I'm fair better defense at the end, I 2:46:17.560 --> 2:46:19.480 don't want to hear it. They welcome to Houston, Texans. 2:46:21.600 --> 2:46:24.480 They finally made their way to Cleveland, sticking down in 2:46:24.560 --> 2:46:27.840 the Brass Valley, going from of course kellen Mond down 2:46:27.879 --> 2:46:30.400 to College Dation and then down to Houston and the Texans. 2:46:30.480 --> 2:46:32.000 Do you think they had to fly those fans in 2:46:33.600 --> 2:46:36.080 the just mean, it's got to be rough being a 2:46:36.160 --> 2:46:38.480 Texans fan right right now? Is yeah. I feel for 2:46:38.600 --> 2:46:41.840 Nick Assaria, I feel for that entire organ job. Don't 2:46:41.879 --> 2:46:44.240 feel bad for him. Oh no, he got a good 2:46:44.280 --> 2:46:46.119 deal too, but he waited a long time to get 2:46:46.160 --> 2:46:48.560 his shot, finally got it, and well, I think a 2:46:48.600 --> 2:46:50.680 lot of that by his own choice, though, Dad, I 2:46:50.760 --> 2:46:52.760 think he had some opportunities to leave. Oh no, that's 2:46:52.760 --> 2:46:55.560 what I'm saying. He was very particular, waited and waited 2:46:55.600 --> 2:46:58.439 and waited and finally took the job and it's backfired. 2:47:00.200 --> 2:47:02.160 So we're taking a little extra time here with the 2:47:02.240 --> 2:47:04.200 Texans start of the night, man, I mean, I know, 2:47:04.440 --> 2:47:08.480 just a little extra conversation here, Dan, what do you 2:47:08.520 --> 2:47:11.039 think the Texans could be thinking about here? Well, Deshaun 2:47:11.080 --> 2:47:16.520 Watson all of his issues. Take Davis Mills here, I mean, oh, 2:47:17.120 --> 2:47:21.279 Davis Mills, quarterback of Stanford. I'm a buzzer beater, listen, 2:47:21.360 --> 2:47:22.840 I don't we don't know what's going to happen with 2:47:22.920 --> 2:47:27.520 the Shawn Watson. This is basically insurance. I guess Davis 2:47:27.640 --> 2:47:31.960 Mills to me he was the clear best quarterback after 2:47:32.040 --> 2:47:35.880 the first round. I agree. I think he's the best 2:47:35.959 --> 2:47:39.119 middle of the field thrower in this draft. Uh six four, 2:47:39.200 --> 2:47:42.600 two twenty. He's got a good arm, he's a loose passer. 2:47:43.200 --> 2:47:45.600 Just really there's two things working against him. The left 2:47:45.640 --> 2:47:49.760 knee was an issue, right, and then he has eleven 2:47:49.840 --> 2:47:52.640 starts in his career and that's well below average with 2:47:52.720 --> 2:47:54.680 what you want because with a quarterback position, the more 2:47:54.720 --> 2:47:57.080 you've seen, the better you are. And so it's gonna 2:47:57.120 --> 2:48:00.040 take some time for him. But he's got skills and 2:48:00.120 --> 2:48:02.760 he's got talent, and so I would have rather rolled 2:48:02.760 --> 2:48:08.160 the dice on him over Traskermond. But Houston Texans, with 2:48:08.320 --> 2:48:10.680 your first pick you have, you have so few picks 2:48:11.400 --> 2:48:13.920 in the draft and use your first one on the quarterback. 2:48:14.040 --> 2:48:16.760 What what does that say? Yeah, I'll tell you what. 2:48:16.879 --> 2:48:20.360 The body the ball comes off this guy's hand great, naturally. Yeah, 2:48:20.440 --> 2:48:23.640 and there's a there's there's no problem with that. He's 2:48:23.680 --> 2:48:27.080 got the touch for the swings the screens. Dane was 2:48:27.120 --> 2:48:29.320 talking about the ball going down the middle of the field. 2:48:29.400 --> 2:48:32.440 He gives his receivers a chance, you know, and he'll 2:48:32.520 --> 2:48:34.960 hit guys on the run. He's got touch in the 2:48:35.040 --> 2:48:36.800 red zone. He has a feel for how to put 2:48:36.879 --> 2:48:39.000 the ball far enough out there in order to give 2:48:39.480 --> 2:48:42.520 the receiver that opportunity to bring it down. I know 2:48:42.680 --> 2:48:45.440 he'll move around in the pocket to buy the second chance. 2:48:45.480 --> 2:48:48.080 I wouldn't say he's a great runner, but he's got 2:48:48.200 --> 2:48:50.560 no fear when it comes to throwing this football. And 2:48:50.680 --> 2:48:52.840 so I like the way he keeps those eyes down 2:48:52.879 --> 2:48:55.080 the field. His receivers give him a chance down the field, 2:48:55.320 --> 2:48:58.000 he delivers the ball well down the field. So after 2:48:58.120 --> 2:49:01.160 David's found all those four quarterback acts it went in 2:49:01.280 --> 2:49:04.320 the first round. Well, he's my he was my fifth 2:49:04.440 --> 2:49:07.320 quarterback out there's what he was. If I made Would 2:49:07.360 --> 2:49:09.440 you mind if I hijack things a little bit? Sure? 2:49:09.640 --> 2:49:11.880 I just I mean, you know, so three quarterbacks that 2:49:11.920 --> 2:49:13.880 I don't care about just got drafted. Good for them, 2:49:13.920 --> 2:49:15.920 and it's awesome for the Cowboys. And that's my point 2:49:16.000 --> 2:49:19.240 is fantastic players that we have no interest in whatsoever 2:49:19.360 --> 2:49:21.680 from a Cowboys perspective or going off the board. And 2:49:21.840 --> 2:49:24.680 so I can't help. But notice that we're moving into 2:49:25.640 --> 2:49:29.080 we're moving into cowboy range here, getting six seven picks away. 2:49:29.360 --> 2:49:30.880 What are what are y'all thinking? What do you I 2:49:31.000 --> 2:49:33.800 think there's still a lot of names available that they 2:49:33.840 --> 2:49:37.280 could have picked at forty four. I agree, I'm looking 2:49:37.480 --> 2:49:39.480 Do you think, oh, size the guy here? I would 2:49:39.560 --> 2:49:43.800 love that at seventy five Osi or or Molden. So 2:49:44.320 --> 2:49:46.560 I mean I'm looking at Molden. I'm looking at I 2:49:46.600 --> 2:49:49.000 don't know if they would want a double dip, but 2:49:49.120 --> 2:49:51.040 I really think Pauls and a Debo and if you 2:49:51.120 --> 2:49:53.640 have to, Mela Fawn wove Fit here. Yeah. I think 2:49:53.840 --> 2:49:57.000 I think you're looking for big corners that can run. 2:49:57.240 --> 2:50:01.160 There's a couple of them available that Jalen Mayfield to 2:50:01.240 --> 2:50:04.440 the Falcons at sixty. I'm sorry, is that the select? 2:50:04.560 --> 2:50:08.440 Is it? Okay? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say that. Yeah, 2:50:08.600 --> 2:50:11.720 that was in okay, No, Like I went through you know, 2:50:11.800 --> 2:50:14.240 I'm looking at like best available lists, and I had 2:50:14.440 --> 2:50:17.240 changed much from forty four. It's pretty wild man, And 2:50:17.400 --> 2:50:19.960 like every position that you would associate with the cowboys, 2:50:20.000 --> 2:50:22.040 there's at least one or two guys like you could 2:50:22.080 --> 2:50:26.039 have your choice between in Osai and Ronnie Perkins. You could, um, 2:50:26.600 --> 2:50:29.560 you know you mentioned the two cornerbacks malifon wuin a debo. 2:50:29.879 --> 2:50:32.840 Elijah Molden's probably a safety here, but they need a safety, 2:50:32.879 --> 2:50:35.279 so that's fan. They definitely need to see. Jamar Johnson's 2:50:35.280 --> 2:50:37.040 still sitting there. I don't know. That's probably not a 2:50:37.040 --> 2:50:39.520 guy you would have drafted at forty four, but a 2:50:39.520 --> 2:50:42.720 couple of weeks later, Aaron Robinson at Central Florida I 2:50:42.800 --> 2:50:45.200 think is a really really good prospect. He just he 2:50:45.320 --> 2:50:47.160 played the slot and so if you view him as 2:50:47.160 --> 2:50:49.120 a slot only, I don't know if that would be 2:50:49.200 --> 2:50:53.400 a Cowboys consideration. But you've got d tackles available that 2:50:53.440 --> 2:50:56.439 we've talked about leading up to this with Alee mcdeale 2:50:57.200 --> 2:51:00.720 Lee McNeil is another Sheldon and Tommy Tokyo. I maybe 2:51:00.760 --> 2:51:03.240 not seventy five, but somewhere in these next three picks, 2:51:03.360 --> 2:51:06.160 who we pilo two. Um, I'm the only one who 2:51:06.200 --> 2:51:08.119 would pick Marvin Wilson, so I'll just pick him later, 2:51:08.240 --> 2:51:09.760 no problem. I don't think you're the only one. I 2:51:10.080 --> 2:51:11.800 there's some guys in that room when that would pick 2:51:11.879 --> 2:51:14.400 Marvin Wilson would just wait, just waited. I did I'll 2:51:14.440 --> 2:51:18.200 tell you this. I love I feel. I'm so sick 2:51:18.280 --> 2:51:20.760 of feeling like, oh god, oh God, oh God, oh God. 2:51:21.120 --> 2:51:23.200 Guys are guys I like are going and right now 2:51:23.280 --> 2:51:25.240 I'm like, we're gravy baby. Yeah, I didin't get happen 2:51:25.240 --> 2:51:27.160 this time. I'm gonna feel great about whoever's there at 2:51:27.200 --> 2:51:29.280 seventy five, no matter what until the next six picks. 2:51:29.320 --> 2:51:33.680 Are all guys gonna be guys that I love. I mean, oh, 2:51:33.720 --> 2:51:40.880 Anthony mutnios Is, Oh with the Cincinnati name, I'm like, what, No, 2:51:41.240 --> 2:51:42.960 not at all. By the way, there is a look 2:51:43.080 --> 2:51:45.560 for those of you watching on the Dallas Cowboys dot 2:51:45.600 --> 2:51:47.360 Com side of things. There's a look inside the war 2:51:47.480 --> 2:51:49.720 room up in the top lefty in corner. Steven's got 2:51:49.760 --> 2:51:52.119 the jacket off. Things are getting crazy. By the way, 2:51:52.160 --> 2:51:55.560 one of those names we just mentioned, Joseph Osai, it's 2:51:55.680 --> 2:51:58.840 Tressure out of Texas goes. I mean, somebody, somebody we like, 2:51:59.040 --> 2:52:00.600 is gonna go between now and then it's gonna be 2:52:00.640 --> 2:52:03.360 the next six pick. Yeah, it would be this day. 2:52:03.480 --> 2:52:06.680 Superstitions aren't real, guys, Come on, well, let's just see 2:52:06.760 --> 2:52:10.560 about that. Yeah, but what about curses? Huh, that's the 2:52:10.640 --> 2:52:14.440 same thing, two different words different yeah, uh yeah, synonyms. 2:52:14.600 --> 2:52:17.200 So no, there's man, there's there's a bunch of really 2:52:17.240 --> 2:52:18.800 good players. Bill, But that is one of the guys 2:52:18.879 --> 2:52:21.600 that would have been I would have loved that for me. 2:52:21.840 --> 2:52:23.520 That was Yeah, that was one of my top guys. 2:52:23.560 --> 2:52:25.080 I got a lot of I got six second round 2:52:25.120 --> 2:52:27.879 guys left. I got Molden, Robinson or my only two 2:52:27.920 --> 2:52:31.120 second round guys left. I'm a little surprised Robinson still available. Yeah. 2:52:31.360 --> 2:52:33.000 I mean I don't like them as much as you 2:52:33.080 --> 2:52:35.360 guys do. I don't the instincts. I didn't. I didn't 2:52:35.600 --> 2:52:37.800 think they were quite there. We might be slot only, right, 2:52:38.320 --> 2:52:39.960 I see. That's what I liked about him, as he 2:52:39.959 --> 2:52:42.240 could play I thought could play inside, outside. Okay, but 2:52:43.160 --> 2:52:44.960 I'm surprised he's still on the board at this point. 2:52:45.000 --> 2:52:48.600 I thought late second uh was kind of his sweet spot. 2:52:49.120 --> 2:52:50.960 He I mean, pretty soon he's got to come off 2:52:51.000 --> 2:52:54.160 the board. Would you say that about Elijah Molden too, 2:52:54.280 --> 2:52:55.880 or do you think the size of the testing is 2:52:56.120 --> 2:53:00.960 that's he's a He's a he's a nickel only he's 2:53:01.120 --> 2:53:05.040 very roles not scheme specific, role specific with how you 2:53:05.080 --> 2:53:07.199 can deploy him on the field. What are we seeing 2:53:07.320 --> 2:53:10.760 from a Lee McNeil. Why has he not been taken 2:53:11.000 --> 2:53:15.879 so far? You know he's a true You watch him play. 2:53:16.000 --> 2:53:18.240 Like I said, he's breathing the same air as the center. 2:53:18.320 --> 2:53:21.760 He is like this old school head up nos zero 2:53:21.920 --> 2:53:25.200 technique straight up is what he played, and he can 2:53:25.240 --> 2:53:27.240 play the one here. And he's got a good first step. 2:53:27.440 --> 2:53:29.320 But I don't think that means you can rush the passer. 2:53:29.520 --> 2:53:31.800 Like he might bring you a little bit of pocket push, 2:53:31.879 --> 2:53:33.920 but he's not gonna ever. If he was ever going 2:53:33.959 --> 2:53:35.920 to be a pass rusher, he'd be off the board. 2:53:36.680 --> 2:53:41.120 Brady Christiansen is the pick seventy to the Panthers. So 2:53:41.280 --> 2:53:45.080 another offensive tackle, twelve offensive tackles. Now he needed help 2:53:45.080 --> 2:53:49.080 at left tackle. That's I'm sorry, Go ahead, Dan, Rashaun Slater. 2:53:49.160 --> 2:53:51.760 We talked about maybe at eight they go corner, they 2:53:51.800 --> 2:53:53.880 get a left tackle here in the third round. I 2:53:54.000 --> 2:53:56.320 just I will the one thing that I don't know 2:53:56.440 --> 2:53:58.440 if I love, and y'all feel free to correct me. 2:53:58.920 --> 2:54:03.360 The tackle situation for where the Cowboys are paying doesn't 2:54:03.400 --> 2:54:07.760 look amazing. I think it's pretty washed up, right, That's okay? Yeah, 2:54:07.760 --> 2:54:11.240 I mean compared to I think other positions. I don't 2:54:11.280 --> 2:54:13.640 think that looks pretty at all. So I think if 2:54:13.680 --> 2:54:16.520 you took an offensive tackle, you'd be kind of forcing 2:54:16.920 --> 2:54:19.360 what you consider a need. Dane, do you like Hutson? 2:54:19.440 --> 2:54:22.240 It all from Cincinnati? I do. In the third, I 2:54:22.320 --> 2:54:25.000 mean more of a late third, I thought, or Smith 2:54:25.160 --> 2:54:28.280 from East Caroline Smith, Yeah, I think he's got We 2:54:28.360 --> 2:54:30.040 did for a radio who had to do a mock 2:54:30.080 --> 2:54:32.080 and I put Smith. I think I picked him right 2:54:32.080 --> 2:54:38.560 about this spot because so I don't know. I mean, 2:54:38.640 --> 2:54:41.280 Alee McNeil is a solid player at some point here 2:54:41.320 --> 2:54:42.920 in the third Brown, We're gonna see a run on 2:54:43.000 --> 2:54:46.840 these defensive tackles, Yeah, McNeil and maybe the USC kids 2:54:46.959 --> 2:54:50.280 and a few of these players. There's some wide receivers 2:54:50.320 --> 2:54:56.000 still left on that board, Toomy Brown, Rogers, Wallace Saint Brown, right, 2:54:56.240 --> 2:54:59.920 I actually like both Saint Brown and Rogers. Amari Rodger 2:55:00.120 --> 2:55:04.680 is an Aminross Saint Brown above Diami Brown. But all 2:55:04.760 --> 2:55:07.800 of them, you know, it's those I think, at least 2:55:07.840 --> 2:55:10.320 for me, those are the next guys. Is those three 2:55:10.640 --> 2:55:13.400 and Palmer. I actually liked the Tennessee Palmer day. Did 2:55:13.440 --> 2:55:15.320 you see the Palmer kid? He of course you did. 2:55:15.360 --> 2:55:18.560 You've watched a thousand players. It runs like angry like 2:55:18.680 --> 2:55:21.000 it does or it's just like he just I don't know. 2:55:21.080 --> 2:55:23.680 It's the way he plays is even just in the 2:55:23.800 --> 2:55:25.640 routes is so physical. I was just like, I like, 2:55:25.879 --> 2:55:27.960 I mean watch him against Alabama and you can see, 2:55:28.440 --> 2:55:33.360 uh you know him he got a touchdown over Certan, right. Yeah, 2:55:33.560 --> 2:55:35.880 I mean he only had like four touchdowns this year, 2:55:36.000 --> 2:55:39.560 but one was against Hurtan, one's against Tyson Campbell. One 2:55:39.840 --> 2:55:42.720 was against DJ Daniel, the other Georgia corner who has 2:55:42.720 --> 2:55:44.680 a chance to get drafted tomorrow. Daniel was so bad 2:55:44.760 --> 2:55:47.520 trying to defend that play too. Yeah. So, I mean 2:55:47.600 --> 2:55:50.080 he played well in the SEC. I think the quarterback 2:55:50.160 --> 2:55:52.680 situation really held him back awful. What do you think 2:55:52.720 --> 2:55:56.280 about some of these interior defensive lineman passed mcdeal or 2:55:56.400 --> 2:55:59.720 pass McNeil, maybe like a TJ. Slayton and osa Odiggy 2:55:59.800 --> 2:56:02.200 zoo Uh by the way, that's a fun name of 2:56:02.320 --> 2:56:05.200 Diggi zooa. What do you think about those kinds of 2:56:05.280 --> 2:56:07.400 guys that at least they're just kind of sneaking in 2:56:07.440 --> 2:56:09.600 there if you wanted to maybe look down the board 2:56:09.640 --> 2:56:13.199 a little bit for a d tackle yeah, and what's 2:56:13.240 --> 2:56:15.119 that sweet spot to get one of these defensive tackles? 2:56:15.120 --> 2:56:17.000 We know it's not a strong class, and so do 2:56:17.040 --> 2:56:18.440 you do it here in the third d you wait 2:56:18.520 --> 2:56:20.760 to the fourth. I mean, oh, Diggy Zoo is a 2:56:20.800 --> 2:56:27.520 good player inside outside versatility, Milton Williams's name, saying there's 2:56:27.560 --> 2:56:30.360 like five of these defensive tackle guys I've got. I 2:56:30.440 --> 2:56:34.560 just think y'all are disrespecting my pet cat Tommy Tommy 2:56:34.720 --> 2:56:39.720 Togi either three pound guy. Yeah, he's strong, m effort 2:56:39.959 --> 2:56:42.800 what he is? He was like, uh, it just is 2:56:42.800 --> 2:56:44.959 he gonna give you pass rush? That's the question though, right? Yeah, 2:56:45.240 --> 2:56:48.840 see I does does that matter? Like we're we're well, 2:56:49.000 --> 2:56:51.400 sure we're here into the third round. Maybe maybe it's 2:56:51.440 --> 2:56:54.160 not seventy five, but eighty four and ninety nine they've 2:56:54.320 --> 2:56:56.640 I mean, we'll see how they develop, but they they've 2:56:56.720 --> 2:56:59.000 got Hill and Gallimore to do that stuff. That's why 2:56:59.040 --> 2:57:00.960 you drafted Tristan him. I'm not saying that we know 2:57:01.080 --> 2:57:04.400 he can do it, but might be easier with a big, strong, 2:57:04.879 --> 2:57:07.520 badass like Tommy Toby. I just eating up blocked. He 2:57:08.000 --> 2:57:12.080 mauled Clemson like he was literally body slamming guys in 2:57:12.360 --> 2:57:14.600 Ohio State would have lost anyway, but they would have 2:57:14.640 --> 2:57:16.880 played better against Alabama if he was there. Oh he 2:57:17.000 --> 2:57:21.200 was the MVP of the defense Clemson. I would love 2:57:21.280 --> 2:57:22.720 to have him on this team. He is one of 2:57:22.760 --> 2:57:25.600 those defensive tackles that are in the conversation. The Giants 2:57:25.640 --> 2:57:27.560 are on the clock. Let's step aside, so we have 2:57:27.680 --> 2:57:29.480 the Cowboys pick on the other side of the break. 2:57:29.480 --> 2:57:31.920 You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on 2:57:31.959 --> 2:57:34.160 one on five three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 2:57:37.120 --> 2:57:41.000 So the Giants selection is happening Round three, Pick seventy one, 2:57:41.080 --> 2:57:44.199 and its corner Aaron Robinson. If the Cowboys were gonna 2:57:44.240 --> 2:57:47.600 double dip at corner in the second and the third, 2:57:47.760 --> 2:57:50.080 Aaron Robinson was probably gonna be that guy. Tell you what, 2:57:51.000 --> 2:57:54.400 one of the Cowboy receivers is going to get mugged. 2:57:55.200 --> 2:57:58.520 Yes a year. I love the way Aaron Robinson plays 2:57:59.680 --> 2:58:02.560 right there the line and he's going to He's going 2:58:02.680 --> 2:58:05.880 to hit you and ride you through the route. I 2:58:06.040 --> 2:58:11.520 loved watching Aaron Robinson. He's tough. He is tough. I'll 2:58:11.560 --> 2:58:14.760 tell you what. Though those kids down there play they 2:58:15.400 --> 2:58:18.280 they they're man. I mean, they play with a chip 2:58:18.360 --> 2:58:20.280 on their shoulder. They really all. I mean, I know 2:58:20.480 --> 2:58:22.520 here I would say, oh, Brauns, we got Tristan Hill 2:58:22.560 --> 2:58:24.840 out of that place. Well, okay, I get it. But 2:58:24.959 --> 2:58:27.080 I mean I'm just looking at these kids. Every time 2:58:27.120 --> 2:58:30.080 I see a Central Florida player though, I'm I feel like, man, 2:58:30.160 --> 2:58:32.640 that's that's a good player right there. Probably deserves to 2:58:32.680 --> 2:58:34.720 be in an ACC school or something like that. And 2:58:35.160 --> 2:58:37.840 I'm gonna say that's probably why. I mean, you see 2:58:38.240 --> 2:58:40.120 is definitely coming up in the world. Oh no, they are, 2:58:40.160 --> 2:58:41.959 but they far. I mean, their coach left, their coach 2:58:42.040 --> 2:58:44.240 took took the job at Tennessee, right, yeah, and he 2:58:44.280 --> 2:58:46.600 went up to Tennessee and they got to get the 2:58:46.640 --> 2:58:48.959 guy from Auburn, you know, so we'll see how I mean, 2:58:48.959 --> 2:58:54.040 I forgot Gus Mason's he could have a lot of 2:58:54.120 --> 2:58:58.680 Successus Mason is a good coach. Yeah, that would be interesting, 2:58:58.800 --> 2:59:01.400 so completely not. I'm very happy he's not in the 2:59:01.520 --> 2:59:04.039 SEC West anymore. Dave you you you're with you live 2:59:04.080 --> 2:59:07.080 with this team. You live with this team. I literally 2:59:07.320 --> 2:59:10.120 you do live with this team. I'm not well a 2:59:10.200 --> 2:59:13.400 lot less over the last year. But yeah, typically there 2:59:13.440 --> 2:59:20.560 he goes, Wow, yeah, Okay, a couple of three. That's 2:59:20.640 --> 2:59:24.960 building right there. Wow. So Ali McNeil out of NC State. 2:59:25.040 --> 2:59:28.480 The defensive tackle is the pick with Detroit at seventy two. 2:59:28.640 --> 2:59:31.520 By the way, for those of you listening, man, you 2:59:31.560 --> 2:59:34.200 wanted him off all, didn't you. I did. I did too. Yeah, 2:59:35.440 --> 2:59:37.680 I did a big fan of his, like I say it, 2:59:37.680 --> 2:59:39.880 but I got you know, I got these defensive tackles 2:59:39.920 --> 2:59:42.440 still kind of stacked in there though, And I meant 2:59:42.560 --> 2:59:44.879 we've lost a couple of guys since I said that. Yeah, 2:59:44.959 --> 2:59:47.440 good jokes, but no, but there's still a lot left. 2:59:47.560 --> 2:59:50.120 Is anybody on the clock and two picks? Is anybody 2:59:50.200 --> 2:59:55.360 like Nixon from Iowa? Dave Davion Nixon, Yeah, the tackle 2:59:55.440 --> 2:59:58.440 from Iowa. I don't think he's the worst player on 2:59:58.520 --> 3:00:01.720 the board. I don't think he's my top pick, though, Dane, 3:00:04.200 --> 3:00:07.560 I hate what he sighed. He does. There's some prospects 3:00:07.600 --> 3:00:10.080 that are just frustrating or you know, okay, okay, there's 3:00:10.160 --> 3:00:12.360 clear talent there. Because I don't have him great. I 3:00:12.520 --> 3:00:14.240 was just making sure I wasn't gonna be the only 3:00:14.280 --> 3:00:19.080 one saying bad things about him. No, like it to 3:00:19.120 --> 3:00:21.600 buy into him, like to fully invest in him as 3:00:21.600 --> 3:00:24.400 a draft pick. But you know there's you know it 3:00:24.440 --> 3:00:27.760 watched the Penn State tape and you're optimistic, and then 3:00:27.760 --> 3:00:30.480 you watch other tapes and maybe not so much. So 3:00:32.480 --> 3:00:34.240 I think somewhere here in the third round is probably 3:00:34.240 --> 3:00:37.360 the right range for him, but I don't know that 3:00:37.440 --> 3:00:39.720 I'm all that excited about it. If he's my pick 3:00:41.560 --> 3:00:46.880 Eagles right Philadelphia selection at seventy three, three picks away 3:00:47.040 --> 3:00:51.000 from the Cowboys, it's gonna be down to the wire 3:00:51.120 --> 3:00:55.520 here on what they're gonna do. Milton Williams Williams Louisiana 3:00:55.600 --> 3:01:00.960 Tech defensive lineman, started to take our cats were the target. 3:01:01.080 --> 3:01:06.240 It's going to be fine. There's plenty left to Dallas 3:01:06.360 --> 3:01:08.400 might have their guys. They're hanging, they're handing the phones 3:01:08.440 --> 3:01:11.320 around here, they're talking to somebody. I guess we'll see. 3:01:11.800 --> 3:01:15.879 Milton Williams to me is big time projection, like he's 3:01:15.920 --> 3:01:19.760 an incredible athlete, but against that level of competition, I 3:01:19.800 --> 3:01:22.000 would expect you to just crush everyone. And I didn't 3:01:22.000 --> 3:01:25.119 really see that. So that's and I know they deviate. 3:01:25.400 --> 3:01:28.720 I mean, you know, there's no blanket statements. They deviate 3:01:28.840 --> 3:01:31.320 from time to time. But I do think it's interesting 3:01:31.920 --> 3:01:33.680 that they seem to like him so much because this 3:01:33.879 --> 3:01:36.400 is the big school team. They always draft big school guys. 3:01:36.440 --> 3:01:39.920 I mean they did Alabama, Alabama in the first two rounds. Wait, 3:01:40.120 --> 3:01:43.160 who Philadelphia, No, I'm talking about I'm talking about the 3:01:43.200 --> 3:01:47.200 Colt Dallas. The Cowboys were enamored supposedly with Milton Williams, 3:01:47.240 --> 3:01:50.040 and that's not the type of school that they typically 3:01:50.120 --> 3:01:52.800 go after. I mean, their first two picks this year 3:01:52.879 --> 3:01:55.120 Penn State in Kentucky SEC Big ten, and that's what 3:01:55.200 --> 3:01:59.760 they do. So I definitely thought that was interesting. So 3:02:00.200 --> 3:02:03.879 what are we thinking though, specifically about the Cowboys here? 3:02:03.879 --> 3:02:06.280 Because you've got Washington at seventy four, the Cowboys are 3:02:06.320 --> 3:02:08.920 up at seventy five. Let's stop some names here, gentlemen. 3:02:09.720 --> 3:02:12.039 I would love it if the pick is Elijah Molden. Say, 3:02:12.040 --> 3:02:14.640 Elijah Moullen's the best player on my board pretty clearly, 3:02:16.200 --> 3:02:20.640 him and Quinn Miners, Dammy Brown. I love They're not 3:02:20.720 --> 3:02:25.640 going receiver. Did you ever know? Yeah, yeah, you probably know, 3:02:25.879 --> 3:02:30.920 But I would love Elijah Molden. I like Tommy Tokey. 3:02:31.000 --> 3:02:32.720 I would make me happy. I might be alone on that, 3:02:33.120 --> 3:02:35.280 but that's fine. Is safety. The biggest need here is 3:02:35.320 --> 3:02:38.560 defensive tackle the biggest need here, that's my question. Well, 3:02:38.560 --> 3:02:40.720 I don't think that. I mean, with three third round picks, 3:02:40.760 --> 3:02:42.040 I don't know that you have to go with your 3:02:42.080 --> 3:02:46.520 top need. So yeah, take the guy you think won't 3:02:46.520 --> 3:02:48.440 be there next time you come up on the Saint 3:02:48.560 --> 3:02:53.240 just I mocked him too the Cowboys at this time yesterday. 3:02:54.120 --> 3:03:00.320 He's a kid from back. You're on the radio side 3:03:00.360 --> 3:03:03.760 of things. The Dallas Cowboys are officially on the clock 3:03:03.879 --> 3:03:08.320 after back to back NFC East opponents. Philadelphia takes the 3:03:08.879 --> 3:03:12.280 defensive tackle out of Louisiana Tech, Milton Williams, and then 3:03:12.360 --> 3:03:17.080 Benjamin Saint Juice Corner out of Minnesota goes to Washington. Brian, 3:03:17.480 --> 3:03:19.440 you were right on this guy on where he was 3:03:19.520 --> 3:03:21.360 gonna go. Yeah, I tell you what. And then we 3:03:21.760 --> 3:03:24.360 again for one oh five three. We did did some 3:03:24.480 --> 3:03:26.640 mock draft stuff, and I thought this guy would end 3:03:26.720 --> 3:03:30.120 up with the Cowboys. I was kind of hopeful about him. 3:03:30.160 --> 3:03:32.960 I really liked watching his tape. I thought he was 3:03:33.680 --> 3:03:36.360 super productive when you know, when you were able to 3:03:36.440 --> 3:03:40.360 study him. The thing about him is that he's he's 3:03:40.400 --> 3:03:43.959 one of those guys that when it's like he's long 3:03:44.440 --> 3:03:47.080 and when he gets in position, like he's got that 3:03:47.120 --> 3:03:49.200 booty to play with that offhand, and you don't see 3:03:49.280 --> 3:03:51.680 him going over or over the back of the receiver 3:03:51.879 --> 3:03:55.400 or through. You see him playing around the body, control 3:03:55.400 --> 3:03:58.000 of the balance. I think he's got quickness. I'm a 3:03:58.080 --> 3:04:00.560 fan of how tough he is, he tackled, the way 3:04:00.560 --> 3:04:02.800 he defends the ball. There are a lot of things 3:04:02.840 --> 3:04:04.560 about him. He was a guy who started watched a 3:04:04.640 --> 3:04:07.960 little late. I got him from Dane studying some of 3:04:08.080 --> 3:04:09.360 his stuff. I said, oh, this is a cat I 3:04:09.400 --> 3:04:12.360 need to watch. And I was very impressed with his 3:04:12.480 --> 3:04:15.360 work at Minnesota because of the late his ability to 3:04:15.400 --> 3:04:17.520 play the ball, and how he was able to tackle. 3:04:17.680 --> 3:04:20.400 So really quickly, let's go around the table. Biggest need 3:04:20.720 --> 3:04:23.080 thoughts about the Cowboys as they are on the clock here, 3:04:23.160 --> 3:04:25.119 starting with you, Jeff, where do you think they're going? 3:04:25.560 --> 3:04:30.600 Biggest needs would probably be somewhere with safety d tackle. 3:04:31.160 --> 3:04:32.360 I mean you could go a lot of ways. You 3:04:32.400 --> 3:04:34.920 could talk about the offensive line to go anywhere Edges, Yeah, 3:04:34.920 --> 3:04:36.480 I think there's a lot of different ways you could go. 3:04:36.640 --> 3:04:38.440 So I would just be looking at players and I 3:04:38.520 --> 3:04:41.160 think Elijah Molden, Pauls and Adebo if he had to 3:04:41.280 --> 3:04:45.560 melafan Wu. Probably not linebacker, right, So get rid of 3:04:45.600 --> 3:04:52.160 Baron Browning and Jabril Cox, Ronnie Perkins edge Oklahoma. But 3:04:52.959 --> 3:04:55.880 the defensive line, these defensive tackles, this is where the 3:04:56.000 --> 3:04:59.600 third round where that runs going to be. So between 3:05:00.080 --> 3:05:04.279 you on Nixon at Iowa and Oh Diggi Zuoa Ucla, 3:05:04.560 --> 3:05:08.520 the UC, the USC kids. Uh, what are the defensive 3:05:08.520 --> 3:05:11.960 tackles Togi I we have? So I think that this 3:05:12.080 --> 3:05:13.720 is where we start to talk about those players and 3:05:13.879 --> 3:05:17.400 who is going to impact this roster. Uh. It's a 3:05:17.680 --> 3:05:20.120 really interesting mix of different types of talents there. Do 3:05:20.120 --> 3:05:24.240 you have a favorite in that mix? I already I 3:05:24.320 --> 3:05:26.640 made my love known for Togi I, so I don't 3:05:26.680 --> 3:05:31.080 need to stand on that. Yeah, an order to mine 3:05:31.080 --> 3:05:36.160 would be Marvin Wilson, Tie Poloto at USC Togia would 3:05:36.160 --> 3:05:39.840 be my guy for sure. Um Bobby brown Shelvyn Nixon 3:05:39.959 --> 3:05:44.960 to fil A O Diggi Zuoa. Yeah. I mean I 3:05:45.000 --> 3:05:48.760 don't like to say, you know, that's why I asked 3:05:48.760 --> 3:05:52.160 you about Nixon stuff like that, because I wasn't as 3:05:52.240 --> 3:05:54.320 high on him as the others. And you know the 3:05:54.600 --> 3:05:58.720 guys you mentioned Togi I wasn't high on and oh 3:05:59.080 --> 3:06:02.000 Diggi Zua I had in the fourth round. So I'm 3:06:02.040 --> 3:06:04.200 you know, we'll see what how this all plays out. 3:06:04.840 --> 3:06:07.880 One thing I like about some of these guys is 3:06:07.920 --> 3:06:09.520 that they all kind of tested well. If you go 3:06:09.600 --> 3:06:11.440 down the list, you look at Tommy Togi I, you 3:06:11.480 --> 3:06:13.720 look at O Diggi Zooa. I mean, Milton Williams is 3:06:13.720 --> 3:06:15.760 off the board. He obviously was the better tester out 3:06:15.800 --> 3:06:19.119 of the group, I think. But I mean specifically about 3:06:19.160 --> 3:06:21.720 these guys, I've got oh diggi zoo highlighted here, but 3:06:23.160 --> 3:06:25.959 he had really long arms. He was a quick, quick 3:06:26.840 --> 3:06:30.560 shuttle time. I mean, he's athletic enough Dane. But out 3:06:30.600 --> 3:06:32.160 of these tight end or excuse me, out of these 3:06:32.160 --> 3:06:36.000 defensive tackles, where did you stand? I mean, my highest 3:06:36.080 --> 3:06:40.280 ranked out of that group is probably the USC kid. 3:06:40.520 --> 3:06:44.400 Yeah to a plow too as well. But you know, 3:06:44.720 --> 3:06:48.119 there's I really do like togy I, you know, diggi 3:06:48.200 --> 3:06:50.240 zoo with two guys that I think you know can 3:06:50.360 --> 3:06:52.760 help you inside and outside. And that's the thing with 3:06:52.800 --> 3:06:56.440 a Diggi Zooa, they lose Tyrn Crawford. Oh diggi Zooa 3:06:56.520 --> 3:06:59.200 gives you that inside outside versatility at six one and 3:06:59.280 --> 3:07:03.160 a half two eighty two pounds, can play inside, can 3:07:03.240 --> 3:07:06.320 play outside. The defensive line depth that he would provide. 3:07:06.400 --> 3:07:10.359 I think that that definitely stands out. So the Cowboys 3:07:11.400 --> 3:07:17.359 have made their pick. They will send up a representative 3:07:17.480 --> 3:07:21.080 to announce the pick in the Cowboys selection here on 3:07:21.280 --> 3:07:28.160 the Draft Show, as always presented by Miller Lions, one 3:07:28.200 --> 3:07:30.840 of the best guitarists in the world. All right, how 3:07:30.840 --> 3:07:34.720 about that pick us a good player there, Adrian Cassada. 3:07:34.760 --> 3:07:37.240 With the seventy fifth pick in the twenty twenty one 3:07:37.480 --> 3:07:43.199 NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys will select defensive tackle Osa 3:07:43.600 --> 3:07:48.039 oh Dicky Sua from UCLA and another need is checked 3:07:48.080 --> 3:07:52.720 off the list for the Dallas Cowboys. The resident from Portland, Oregon, 3:07:52.920 --> 3:07:56.000 five two almost two hundred and eighty two pounds Dane 3:07:56.080 --> 3:08:01.960 scouting report, A long player, thirty four inch arms. He's explosive. 3:08:02.800 --> 3:08:05.280 I love the way he uses his physical hands to 3:08:05.440 --> 3:08:08.279 snatch to stay under control. It is the former wrestler. 3:08:08.360 --> 3:08:11.200 He was a state champion wrestler at the high school level. 3:08:11.320 --> 3:08:13.520 Second wrestler the Cowboys have taken in this draft because 3:08:13.560 --> 3:08:15.560 Parsons was as well. Yeah, and a guy that was 3:08:15.600 --> 3:08:17.840 productive twenty seven and a half tackles for loss over 3:08:17.920 --> 3:08:20.360 his career. You know, there's just a lot to like 3:08:20.480 --> 3:08:23.640 about the raw talent. He needs to get better in 3:08:23.720 --> 3:08:26.320 some areas, just in terms of patching together as moves 3:08:26.400 --> 3:08:29.199 and you know, just the fundamentals of being a pass rusher. 3:08:29.600 --> 3:08:34.040 But he has disruptive qualities, the length, the power, and 3:08:34.280 --> 3:08:36.200 I think he can you know is you don't have 3:08:36.360 --> 3:08:39.160 to say you don't have to put him in an 3:08:39.200 --> 3:08:42.640 exact spot for him to be productive. Line him up outside, 3:08:42.760 --> 3:08:45.040 line him up inside. You know, you can just move 3:08:45.160 --> 3:08:47.840 him around and be creative. He's gonna give you something 3:08:47.879 --> 3:08:51.320 that scheme versatility, that's I mean, you know I already 3:08:51.480 --> 3:08:53.600 toy I was my guy. I would assume this probably 3:08:53.680 --> 3:08:56.840 takes him off the board, which is mate, we'll see, 3:08:56.920 --> 3:09:00.200 but yeah, slightly disappointing. My point was gonna be for 3:09:00.360 --> 3:09:03.199 so many years. I always used to say the Cowboys 3:09:03.240 --> 3:09:05.240 felt like paint by numbers, Like it was like, well, 3:09:05.879 --> 3:09:07.520 we need him to do this, like he only does that. 3:09:07.680 --> 3:09:10.000 Oh and he's a one and he's a three. We 3:09:10.040 --> 3:09:11.720 can't draft him because of this. If you're telling me 3:09:11.800 --> 3:09:14.880 this guy is that versatile, I enjoy that. I like 3:09:15.000 --> 3:09:16.560 a guy that can move all over the place. I 3:09:16.720 --> 3:09:18.920 like the long arms too. Yeah. And the interesting thing 3:09:19.000 --> 3:09:20.959 about him is like I put him in the fourth 3:09:21.080 --> 3:09:24.480 round because I wasn't entirely sure what to do with him, 3:09:25.320 --> 3:09:28.640 because at two hundred and eighty pounds or whatever, I 3:09:29.000 --> 3:09:31.440 felt like some of his best traits were almost as 3:09:31.440 --> 3:09:33.800 a one technique we're talking about a two hundred and 3:09:33.800 --> 3:09:37.279 eighty pound guy, but he won't he'd win the leverage battle, 3:09:37.400 --> 3:09:39.880 he would play the run really well. And so I 3:09:39.959 --> 3:09:41.600 was just a little bit thrown off because I'm like, man, 3:09:41.640 --> 3:09:44.959 he has a lot of the like the stout physical 3:09:45.080 --> 3:09:47.080 traits as if he was three twenty, but he's doing 3:09:47.160 --> 3:09:50.080 it at two eighty and he tested as a decent athlete. 3:09:50.080 --> 3:09:51.800 So I may actually have been too low on him 3:09:52.160 --> 3:09:55.400 because the things about him that I liked I liked. 3:09:55.560 --> 3:09:57.680 So that's the thing is I gave a fourth round 3:09:57.720 --> 3:09:59.680 grade as well. But you know, I read my sky 3:09:59.760 --> 3:10:03.360 ro for it. I'm like, it's a good. Yeah. I 3:10:03.440 --> 3:10:06.680 think when it comes down to it, the length, the power, 3:10:07.000 --> 3:10:11.000 and his ability to be disruptive. Focusing on that, I 3:10:11.360 --> 3:10:13.840 do like this player a little bit higher than you know, 3:10:13.920 --> 3:10:17.000 I thought he'd be drafted and over some players that 3:10:17.240 --> 3:10:19.240 maybe I had great and higher. But this is a 3:10:19.280 --> 3:10:21.280 good player. So I'm not gonna, you know, say this 3:10:21.400 --> 3:10:23.720 is a bad pick at all. So you're not. That's 3:10:23.760 --> 3:10:26.320 not just a complete cell job. You're like, probably not 3:10:26.440 --> 3:10:28.280 what I would have done, But this is a good decision. No, 3:10:28.360 --> 3:10:30.040 I trust me. I would be completely honest with you 3:10:30.080 --> 3:10:31.320 if I didn't like the pick, or if I thought 3:10:31.360 --> 3:10:33.120 this was a reach. I think he's a He's just 3:10:33.320 --> 3:10:34.920 a player that you watch and you like him. He 3:10:34.959 --> 3:10:37.600 did a nice job at the Senior Bowl. I thought, 3:10:37.720 --> 3:10:39.920 you know, he was one of the few defensive tackles 3:10:39.959 --> 3:10:42.200 down there that held his own against Creed Humphrey and 3:10:42.440 --> 3:10:46.280 Quinn Miners. But he's just an easy guy to length. Again, 3:10:46.320 --> 3:10:49.240 it comes back to the explosive nature and the length 3:10:49.480 --> 3:10:52.240 and just the competitiveness that you know, the fact that 3:10:52.280 --> 3:10:55.240 he was a three time state champion wrestler. I think 3:10:55.280 --> 3:10:58.280 that shines through with his tape, with the balance at 3:10:58.280 --> 3:11:00.600 the point of attack, and just that grit that he 3:11:00.680 --> 3:11:03.400 plays with. Brian, you look stressed over there. Do you 3:11:03.520 --> 3:11:05.600 like this pick? No? I do. I just I was 3:11:05.640 --> 3:11:08.000 just working through some things. No, you're busy over there 3:11:08.680 --> 3:11:13.320 just people texting me. It's driving me nuts. I saw 3:11:13.360 --> 3:11:15.560 the same thing. I mean, I think I had him too. 3:11:15.879 --> 3:11:17.360 I think I had him too low. I had him 3:11:17.360 --> 3:11:20.000 in the fourth round as well, and it was like, 3:11:20.200 --> 3:11:22.000 I've seen him play the nose and I've seen him 3:11:22.040 --> 3:11:24.640 play the undertackle. I thought he was super active and 3:11:24.720 --> 3:11:27.160 he's always on the move. He's always working towards the ball. 3:11:27.680 --> 3:11:30.039 The first step, quickness, the burst. This is funny. When 3:11:30.040 --> 3:11:31.760 you start reading your notes, you realize what a clown 3:11:31.800 --> 3:11:33.720 you are for putting him where you did. But he 3:11:33.800 --> 3:11:36.720 comes across the line quickly. He could be disruptive. I 3:11:36.879 --> 3:11:38.760 like how he got into the backfield. You see him 3:11:38.760 --> 3:11:42.120 play on the opponent's side of the line. He'll fight blocks. 3:11:42.160 --> 3:11:44.360 I mean he's fine with getting off blocks. The hands, 3:11:44.440 --> 3:11:47.040 the quickness, I mean, the effort, the technique is a 3:11:47.080 --> 3:11:50.400 pass rush is good. He's got some slipperiness to his game. 3:11:50.520 --> 3:11:52.880 And I think they used him on some games where 3:11:52.920 --> 3:11:55.000 he was able to effect the pocket that way too. 3:11:55.200 --> 3:11:58.040 So good finisher round the ball, he'll wrap his man up. 3:11:58.080 --> 3:12:01.120 But yeah, I feel like to me that Dallas probably 3:12:01.200 --> 3:12:04.360 had him right. And my notes what I just read 3:12:04.400 --> 3:12:06.400 to you is making it sound like that that I 3:12:06.560 --> 3:12:08.080 had him in the wrong round. Maybe she'd been a 3:12:08.080 --> 3:12:11.080 little bit higher. I feel like a crazy person right 3:12:11.160 --> 3:12:14.960 now because and I mean this with admiration, like y'all 3:12:14.959 --> 3:12:17.200 are not afraid to let your feelings be known, and 3:12:17.400 --> 3:12:20.360 like if you think the Cowboys screwed up, you say it, 3:12:20.720 --> 3:12:23.959 do it all the time, and y'all are all just like, Ah, 3:12:24.280 --> 3:12:28.320 I guess I was wrong about this guy. I'll admit it, 3:12:28.400 --> 3:12:31.360 because you know when the way this kid reads where 3:12:31.360 --> 3:12:32.800 I read my notes, and that's where I had this 3:12:32.920 --> 3:12:35.080 distressed look on my face because I was reading these 3:12:35.160 --> 3:12:37.560 notes and I'm like going, Okay, why did I not 3:12:37.879 --> 3:12:40.480 have him higher up? None of us did, though, and 3:12:40.720 --> 3:12:42.960 he just kind of slipped under the radar. I don't know, Well, 3:12:43.000 --> 3:12:44.800 he just you watch a bunch of players and you 3:12:45.160 --> 3:12:48.400 lose track of where you have guys. I'll be burtly on. 3:12:49.000 --> 3:12:51.080 That's what I value y'all so much. I do what 3:12:51.200 --> 3:12:53.480 I can. I didn't watch him, so I'm leaning on y'all. Well. 3:12:53.640 --> 3:12:55.200 To me, it was just that I think I put 3:12:55.320 --> 3:12:58.000 him there because he was strange, because most of my 3:12:58.120 --> 3:13:00.600 notes read like, look, it's a guy with upside, but 3:13:00.640 --> 3:13:02.879 it's a guy that plays like a guy that would 3:13:02.879 --> 3:13:04.560 play a nose tackle for you and needs two hundred 3:13:04.560 --> 3:13:07.520 and eighty pounds. So that didn't really add up. But 3:13:07.640 --> 3:13:09.400 if you're gonna move him up and down the line, 3:13:09.400 --> 3:13:11.480 like I think he'll be a useful NFL player as 3:13:11.520 --> 3:13:13.520 a rookie. Now, if you want to go up and 3:13:13.640 --> 3:13:15.760 down the players you have available, I would have rather 3:13:15.879 --> 3:13:18.480 they double dipped at corner and grab Paulson a debo 3:13:18.600 --> 3:13:20.640 or if you had to melafon Wu, I would have 3:13:20.720 --> 3:13:24.080 comfortably rather had those players. It's just it's a name 3:13:24.160 --> 3:13:25.920 that I wasn't ready to hear at that spot. But 3:13:25.959 --> 3:13:27.920 then you read your notes, you're like, oh, he can help. 3:13:28.440 --> 3:13:30.560 So it's not one of them. I mean, it's not 3:13:30.640 --> 3:13:33.680 one of my top ten or fifteen players. But it's 3:13:33.720 --> 3:13:35.680 just I don't know, like something about when you you 3:13:35.760 --> 3:13:37.520 read the notes on a player and you go, oh, well, 3:13:37.560 --> 3:13:39.640 that is a guy I liked, so he's gonna be 3:13:39.680 --> 3:13:43.119 on the team. Okay, I think that's a first. And again, 3:13:43.240 --> 3:13:45.400 like I'm not making fun of y'all. I love that 3:13:45.520 --> 3:13:47.320 that y'all are like, oh yeah, Like I'm looking over 3:13:47.440 --> 3:13:49.480 my notes, this seems like this is good to me. 3:13:50.160 --> 3:13:52.400 But yeah, I think Kat's ripping r you know what 3:13:52.640 --> 3:13:56.000 right now? On techs he really is. He's like, get 3:13:56.080 --> 3:13:58.840 him Dave. Kat said he had a five on him. 3:13:58.840 --> 3:14:01.600 He says, a garbage pick. Wow, I'm reading your KT. 3:14:01.720 --> 3:14:03.120 If you're gonna call it out, I'll let you get 3:14:03.160 --> 3:14:04.840 it called and get it on there. How about that. 3:14:05.040 --> 3:14:07.720 We do have secret audio from the selection. Let's hear 3:14:07.840 --> 3:14:09.840 just what the Cowboys were thinking whenever they talk to 3:14:09.920 --> 3:14:14.480 the newest Dallas Cowboys. Oh, diggi Zowa from UCLA. Oh, 3:14:14.560 --> 3:14:19.080 so this is Jerry Jones with Cowboys. Hello, thank you, Hey, listen, 3:14:19.760 --> 3:14:22.840 I think we've got a good enough connection here there. 3:14:22.920 --> 3:14:25.200 He goes, Okay, well, I know you can hear me. 3:14:25.800 --> 3:14:28.680 But we shore our proude, we shore our pride. We're 3:14:28.720 --> 3:14:31.080 turning your card in, but we're proud that you're part 3:14:31.080 --> 3:14:34.360 of the team. Man. Congratulations too, Thank you so much 3:14:34.360 --> 3:14:40.480 for the opportunity. Well, you've you've really worked hard to 3:14:40.560 --> 3:14:45.440 get this spot, and everybody really in this room respects 3:14:45.480 --> 3:14:49.200 you for playing at this level to be drafted at 3:14:49.240 --> 3:14:52.320 this spot. But what we're really excited about is you 3:14:52.400 --> 3:14:54.680 getting to be a part of the Cowboys and us 3:14:54.760 --> 3:14:58.480 together really doing something special. So listen. One of the 3:14:58.560 --> 3:15:00.600 reason we're gonna get to is gonna hand you the 3:15:00.640 --> 3:15:05.040 phone to a coach, Mike McCarthy. And he's a big 3:15:05.120 --> 3:15:06.840 man in your corner here, so I want you to 3:15:06.920 --> 3:15:12.680 talk to him here he is. Oh, so congratulations. Hey, 3:15:12.720 --> 3:15:15.680 are you having some fun? Oh you bet? Hey, man, 3:15:15.760 --> 3:15:18.760 God bless you join this time with your family and friends. 3:15:18.800 --> 3:15:20.480 And I'm really looking forward to getting you out here 3:15:20.560 --> 3:15:23.640 next week. All right, all right, all right, you're looking 3:15:23.680 --> 3:15:28.960 forward to making you're a cowboy, my man, God bless, 3:15:30.280 --> 3:15:34.600 I promise. Oh, I know that awesome. Always love the 3:15:34.680 --> 3:15:36.920 secret audio. And you heard that there from Jerry Jones. 3:15:36.959 --> 3:15:38.760 I don't want to read too far into it, but 3:15:38.840 --> 3:15:41.000 he said, here's Mike McCarthy, a big man in your corner. 3:15:41.080 --> 3:15:43.200 You think this might have been McCarthy looking a guy 3:15:43.800 --> 3:15:47.800 down the list a little bit? Yeah, I mean, I mean, hey, 3:15:48.240 --> 3:15:51.520 that's that's his job, right and and especially in a 3:15:51.640 --> 3:15:53.560 year which I know you know they can go confer 3:15:53.680 --> 3:15:55.720 with other people, but there's only ten people allowed in 3:15:55.800 --> 3:15:59.880 that room. That's this is almost as interesting as doing 3:16:00.000 --> 3:16:03.039 it all over zoom because you can't have the same 3:16:03.160 --> 3:16:06.240 level of conversations. But yeah, like McCarthy, McCarthy knows who 3:16:06.280 --> 3:16:09.560 he likes. I don't have a problem believing that. It's 3:16:09.560 --> 3:16:11.920 a good point. By the way, since the Cowboys selected 3:16:12.040 --> 3:16:15.760 seventy six overall, the New Yorleans Saints select Paulson Adebo 3:16:15.920 --> 3:16:20.320 Texas product actually Mansfield product down of DFW. He is 3:16:20.400 --> 3:16:24.040 a corner out of Stanford. Seventy seven. The Chargers take 3:16:24.160 --> 3:16:29.080 wide receiver Josh Josh Palmer, Chargers again coming up there 3:16:29.080 --> 3:16:33.200 and making it out of Tennessee. Yeah, did you like Palmer? Oh? Yeah, 3:16:33.879 --> 3:16:36.359 that's the guy we were just talking about, you know, Tennessee. 3:16:36.440 --> 3:16:38.960 He's playing with like a quarterback that's throwing it all 3:16:39.000 --> 3:16:41.520 over the yard at quarterback and he's coming down with 3:16:41.640 --> 3:16:44.959 the ball. He's like he Certan couldn't cut. I mean, 3:16:45.520 --> 3:16:47.800 you could watch him. He's having production against all these 3:16:48.320 --> 3:16:51.640 Georgia kids, Alabama kids. It doesn't matter. He's going out there. 3:16:51.680 --> 3:16:55.040 He swept six one, two and fifteen pounds. It's a 3:16:55.120 --> 3:16:57.320 good looking kid at the number five growing up getting 3:16:57.360 --> 3:16:59.920 that football. Love. His toughness yeah a lot. I mean 3:17:00.040 --> 3:17:02.400 he's not the fastest guy in the world, but he 3:17:03.000 --> 3:17:05.720 does just enough where he can win vertically, and you know, 3:17:05.800 --> 3:17:10.880 we saw him Stacks or Tana. I had a tough 3:17:11.000 --> 3:17:14.440 time where to just rank him because you know, like 3:17:14.640 --> 3:17:17.480 I like Yami Brown better. I like Amory Rogers better. 3:17:18.280 --> 3:17:19.840 You know, some of these wide receivers that haven't been 3:17:19.879 --> 3:17:22.200 taken yet I like better. But I don't necessarily hate 3:17:22.200 --> 3:17:24.560 the pick here with Josh Palmer because he's a good player. 3:17:24.800 --> 3:17:26.560 It's kind of like the DIGGI Zua like, you know, 3:17:26.680 --> 3:17:29.640 it's do I have other defensive tackles rated higher? Sure, 3:17:29.680 --> 3:17:32.520 same thing with wide receiver, but I don't dislike the 3:17:32.600 --> 3:17:35.400 pick because it's a good player. And then of course 3:17:35.440 --> 3:17:38.120 a Debo off the board. Jeff, you were really high 3:17:38.160 --> 3:17:42.440 on the Stanford corner. Yeah, that's my guy. A Debo's 3:17:42.480 --> 3:17:44.440 my guy. I wish the Cowboys would have taken him 3:17:44.640 --> 3:17:48.560 at seventy five. You like him or melofon Wu better. 3:17:48.600 --> 3:17:51.200 I actually like the Debo better. And I liked both 3:17:51.280 --> 3:17:53.320 of them, but I like a Debo better. A Debo 3:17:53.400 --> 3:17:55.960 had just he had to in his two years before 3:17:56.000 --> 3:17:57.720 opting out. He had to lead the He had to 3:17:57.800 --> 3:17:59.920 lead college football and ball production. Because I thinking back 3:18:00.080 --> 3:18:02.480 back years, it was seventeen passes defended and then ten 3:18:02.959 --> 3:18:05.840 and it was four interceptions in each year, so his 3:18:06.000 --> 3:18:08.760 hands were on the football all the time. And I 3:18:08.840 --> 3:18:10.720 think what happened to him in twenty nineteen is people 3:18:10.800 --> 3:18:13.160 realized how aggressive he was, and that's why he batted 3:18:13.200 --> 3:18:16.720 down seventeen passes and eighteen and so they hit him 3:18:16.720 --> 3:18:19.760 with a bunch of double moves. But outside of that aggression, 3:18:19.959 --> 3:18:22.280 I didn't have a lot of complaints about a Debo's game. 3:18:22.360 --> 3:18:25.400 I think that he's fast, quick, long man or zone. 3:18:26.320 --> 3:18:28.080 So I was a big a Debo fan. I would 3:18:28.120 --> 3:18:30.160 have loved have seen the Cowboys just double dip and say, 3:18:30.200 --> 3:18:32.400 you know what, we got a lot of corners and 3:18:32.520 --> 3:18:37.480 we're ready to rock. It seems like almost too many corners. Honestly, 3:18:37.600 --> 3:18:40.959 he might be right, well, you never have too much, 3:18:41.080 --> 3:18:43.680 but I mean that's not that's too many guys. It 3:18:43.720 --> 3:18:46.280 would mean that Reggie Robinson would have a hard time 3:18:46.600 --> 3:18:49.920 being acts well. Also, and I mean, let's be let's 3:18:49.959 --> 3:18:53.240 be honest too. Is with um you don't want to 3:18:53.240 --> 3:18:55.920 protect yourself with Kelvin Joseph, With Calvin josephari All I'm 3:18:55.920 --> 3:18:58.160 saying is with Calvin Josephardi here, if you draft a Devo, 3:18:58.360 --> 3:19:01.720 then somebody who's worth a lot is not playing, whether 3:19:01.800 --> 3:19:03.840 that's Jordan Lewis or Anthony Brown or one of these 3:19:03.959 --> 3:19:07.200 draft picks. Yeah, corners just to me, I feel like 3:19:07.320 --> 3:19:09.280 every week one of your corners is going to be hurt. 3:19:10.240 --> 3:19:13.400 Like corner. Sure, I want to have six of them. 3:19:13.959 --> 3:19:17.320 In the real world, you want to have six And 3:19:17.800 --> 3:19:19.960 you know, I get it. You want the best players possible, 3:19:20.520 --> 3:19:22.040 blah blah blah. But at the end of the day, 3:19:22.280 --> 3:19:25.080 follow the money, follow the resources. Like you don't want 3:19:25.480 --> 3:19:28.960 a top one hundred pick not playing because there's four 3:19:29.080 --> 3:19:30.800 guys that are better than him. Yeah, I guess it 3:19:30.879 --> 3:19:33.360 just hurts my heart that their corner need no longer 3:19:33.480 --> 3:19:35.400 lines up with what I think is still a strength 3:19:35.480 --> 3:19:38.360 of the draft. Yeah, with a Deebo and meliflor Wu 3:19:38.480 --> 3:19:41.680 and Shaker Brown and like there's there's still those guys 3:19:41.720 --> 3:19:44.720 are still available though, right, But and you've got you've 3:19:44.760 --> 3:19:47.120 got a pick in five selections. But if you took 3:19:47.840 --> 3:19:52.000 oh Diggi Zuoa over those guys, how many other guys 3:19:52.040 --> 3:19:54.200 are gonna take over them? Yeah? Like, I just don't 3:19:54.200 --> 3:19:55.880 know if they're gonna pull the trigger on another corner. 3:19:55.879 --> 3:19:58.320 I guess it's just an interesting. It's an interesting thought, 3:19:58.840 --> 3:20:01.440 and I'm not I'm not hating on them because obviously 3:20:01.480 --> 3:20:04.160 you can't predict this stuff. But like if you would, 3:20:04.360 --> 3:20:06.560 if you knew ahead of time who would be available 3:20:06.720 --> 3:20:10.039 late on day two, would you have signed Jordan Lewis 3:20:10.120 --> 3:20:13.440 to an extension? No? Yeah, probably not, maybe not, but 3:20:13.560 --> 3:20:16.160 you can't count on that either. So I some wish 3:20:16.240 --> 3:20:19.680 that the draft was before fregency. Wow, wouldn't that be great? 3:20:19.760 --> 3:20:21.600 How wild would it be if we could just do 3:20:21.760 --> 3:20:25.840 this on like March tenth. I'm not ready for that. Well, see, 3:20:26.000 --> 3:20:28.760 you need the time because you watch everybody whereas I 3:20:29.280 --> 3:20:31.520 do what I can. I'm like, let's roll, baby, Dane'll 3:20:31.560 --> 3:20:33.640 pick up the slack for me. Yeah, you only have 3:20:33.840 --> 3:20:35.640 one rough year and then you'd be back to having 3:20:35.680 --> 3:20:37.360 a calendar year. It would just be next one that 3:20:37.400 --> 3:20:39.040 would be tough, and then you'd be fine. You'd be 3:20:39.160 --> 3:20:41.040 right back on track. So the Raiders are on the 3:20:41.080 --> 3:20:44.720 board at seventy nine. You've got eighty being the Raiders again. 3:20:44.879 --> 3:20:47.400 Then you've got the Dolphins, the football team, the Bears, 3:20:47.440 --> 3:20:50.200 and then the Cowboys. And here's the brilliant thing. If 3:20:50.240 --> 3:20:52.600 you didn't like the O DIGGI zooa pick, which I 3:20:52.680 --> 3:20:54.160 don't think it was a bad pick. We all kind 3:20:54.200 --> 3:20:55.840 of looked at it and said, yeah, we probably could 3:20:55.840 --> 3:20:58.640 have had him higher. Katie thinks we're cowards. But at 3:20:58.680 --> 3:21:02.280 the same time, you picking five selections all, I mean, 3:21:02.320 --> 3:21:04.440 I guess it's more than that. It's nine selections later. 3:21:04.840 --> 3:21:07.000 But you get to turn around and do it again. Now, 3:21:07.080 --> 3:21:08.880 what are you thinking. You got your three biggest needs 3:21:08.920 --> 3:21:12.600 out of the way, interior defensive line, your need for 3:21:12.640 --> 3:21:16.640 a corner at your need for a linebacker, I mean 3:21:16.760 --> 3:21:19.800 safety here is still a potential. Maybe you're looking at 3:21:19.840 --> 3:21:22.360 a Melafon Wu in there as well. Maybe you're looking 3:21:22.480 --> 3:21:26.039 for an offensive tackle. Could you throw a wide receiver 3:21:26.120 --> 3:21:28.959 if you wanted to go get a Thailand Wallace out 3:21:29.000 --> 3:21:31.360 of Oklahoma State. Don't tempt me with a good time. 3:21:31.480 --> 3:21:33.440 I'm just saying, don't tempt me with a good time 3:21:33.480 --> 3:21:36.280 because he's Michael Gallup is not a certainty. He's a fave. 3:21:36.640 --> 3:21:40.119 He's a fave for sure. You're Tylan Wallace, guy, I'm 3:21:40.160 --> 3:21:43.000 an a'man Ross Saint Brown love him too. And Amari 3:21:43.160 --> 3:21:46.560 Rodgers guy, Oh he's good too, I'm brown. They're all good. Yeah, 3:21:46.600 --> 3:21:49.000 there's good receivers loft. I just I do wonder with 3:21:49.160 --> 3:21:51.920 THEO Dicky zoo a pick that some of the guys 3:21:51.959 --> 3:21:53.800 that we're talking about is the best players available? Are 3:21:53.800 --> 3:21:55.600 they just done picking them? Like? Are they like yeah, 3:21:55.720 --> 3:21:57.600 unless it's like kicking us in the face in the 3:21:57.680 --> 3:22:00.480 fifth or sixth round, Like we're not gonna take a corner? 3:22:00.840 --> 3:22:02.920 Are we about to watch them follow a roadmap of 3:22:03.040 --> 3:22:05.760 positions of need now? And who was the start of that? 3:22:06.320 --> 3:22:08.240 Are we about to grab a tackle? Is it the 3:22:08.360 --> 3:22:12.120 start or that? Like they've been doing it this whole time? Yeah, 3:22:12.160 --> 3:22:14.199 but on the first two, wouldn't you say it matches 3:22:14.280 --> 3:22:16.520 up at least closely to the top of the board 3:22:17.000 --> 3:22:20.279 that Parsons was one of the best available and Kelvin 3:22:20.360 --> 3:22:23.240 joseph was one of the best available. By R. Johnson's 3:22:23.240 --> 3:22:25.800 still there, I would love that. My brain is mush 3:22:25.879 --> 3:22:28.840 Who else was there besides Kelvin Joseph? I mean it 3:22:29.000 --> 3:22:30.960 kind of felt like they got truly wiped out in 3:22:31.040 --> 3:22:33.840 that situation. Well, I think only all their safeties were gone. 3:22:33.879 --> 3:22:37.000 We lost the safeties, the corners, only the two Georgia 3:22:37.080 --> 3:22:40.880 kids were gone. Tackles. You still had Walker, little Jackson 3:22:41.000 --> 3:22:44.560 Carmen Samuel Cosme. I guess I just again, I just 3:22:44.840 --> 3:22:47.480 I came into the day thinking that they were going 3:22:47.560 --> 3:22:49.600 to spend that pick on a dB, and so maybe 3:22:49.640 --> 3:22:51.600 that's why I felt like, if you're thinking about going 3:22:51.640 --> 3:22:55.080 out getting need guys, do you think enough of Molden 3:22:55.400 --> 3:22:57.960 to be just a nickel A nickel slot, I'd be 3:22:58.040 --> 3:23:01.320 okay with that. Safety totally fun. Don't you currently have 3:23:01.520 --> 3:23:03.880 the same battle at nickel you've had for the last 3:23:03.959 --> 3:23:06.800 four years? Though you have Jordan and Anthony Brown? Do 3:23:06.959 --> 3:23:09.200 you want to do that kids outside? Well, they do. 3:23:09.320 --> 3:23:12.240 They brought him both back. I wouldn't necessarily want to 3:23:12.320 --> 3:23:15.120 do that. Again. Well, I think they brought Anthony Brown 3:23:15.200 --> 3:23:17.720 back to cover themselves because he can theoretically do both. 3:23:17.920 --> 3:23:21.440 Like they don't see him as purely a nickel. The 3:23:21.560 --> 3:23:26.039 Raiders selection is in, by the way, seventy ninth pick 3:23:26.120 --> 3:23:29.280 in the NFL draft. Here in round three were five 3:23:29.400 --> 3:23:32.120 selections away from the Dallas Cowboys. For those of you 3:23:32.400 --> 3:23:34.560 on the air with us, John will pick a bad 3:23:34.640 --> 3:23:38.000 player on you. I don't tell. John's not afraid to 3:23:38.040 --> 3:23:40.520 mess these things up. Ters do whatever the hell they want. 3:23:40.640 --> 3:23:43.400 John will pick a bad play. Yeah, you could tell 3:23:43.480 --> 3:23:45.000 him that to his face and he'll like, m F 3:23:45.120 --> 3:23:46.840 you while you're doing it. Yeah, that's fun. He's a 3:23:46.879 --> 3:23:49.320 lot of fun with to pick him. Yeah, he guys. 3:23:49.920 --> 3:23:52.240 He's don't have to work for a general manager ten 3:23:52.280 --> 3:23:54.440 million a year. Two. Yeah, we're also going to take 3:23:54.440 --> 3:23:57.560 a break right after this pick is over. The pick 3:23:57.760 --> 3:24:00.480 is edge Malcolm Coons out of buff Low. That'll be 3:24:00.520 --> 3:24:03.520 an interesting one to talk about it. We're gonna step aside. Though. 3:24:03.560 --> 3:24:05.760 You're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. On 3:24:05.840 --> 3:24:07.800 one to five three, the fan in Dallas Cowboys dot 3:24:07.840 --> 3:24:11.560 Com told you Jon Gruden don't care. He doesn't care 3:24:11.600 --> 3:24:15.800 how thinks. Okay, I told you don't care. Gruden needs 3:24:15.920 --> 3:24:18.200 Dane bad. I might not. I might not watch it. 3:24:19.480 --> 3:24:21.360 I don't watch every player, but I've heard of most 3:24:21.400 --> 3:24:23.160 of these guys. I think that I'm at my first like, 3:24:23.280 --> 3:24:24.959 who the hell is this guy? You don't know that guy? 3:24:25.040 --> 3:24:27.080 I don't think I I was not high on this guy, 3:24:27.120 --> 3:24:31.480 and I might be very wrong. Um he's a good athlete, 3:24:31.480 --> 3:24:35.000 he's just he's undersized. Um he's more of a runaround 3:24:35.120 --> 3:24:37.880 rusher than a guy that's going to go through contact consistently. 3:24:38.040 --> 3:24:41.080 I gave him a seventh round grade. So, but like 3:24:41.160 --> 3:24:44.000 I might be very wrong, It's very possible he turns 3:24:44.040 --> 3:24:45.680 out to be a good player. But which it's a 3:24:45.800 --> 3:24:48.680 Raider pick. I'll defend the Raiders for a second because 3:24:48.760 --> 3:24:50.879 I feel like there's a team like this every year 3:24:51.080 --> 3:24:53.640 where you say, so they drafted Leatherwood and then they 3:24:53.720 --> 3:24:56.199 drafted merrig and they kind of they caught some flak 3:24:56.280 --> 3:24:58.560 for drafting Leatherwood where they did. But if you flipped 3:24:58.600 --> 3:25:01.279 it and said they drafted Marriag at seventeen and Leatherwood 3:25:01.280 --> 3:25:03.760 at forty three, Mike work he said they had a 3:25:03.800 --> 3:25:06.920 great draft. Yeah, I mean I think they I like 3:25:07.080 --> 3:25:08.880 those two picks a lot. I don't know what to 3:25:08.959 --> 3:25:12.400 do with this, but Leatherwood as seventeen. I mean, they 3:25:12.440 --> 3:25:16.720 have a track record of doing this. I'm saying, or Alabama, 3:25:17.240 --> 3:25:19.600 Mike may I goes to Alabama and they kiss his 3:25:19.680 --> 3:25:21.800 ass the whole thing. Ohio State in there, too, But 3:25:21.879 --> 3:25:23.880 they did it last year with Damon Arnett. They had 3:25:23.920 --> 3:25:25.320 back to back picks, by the way, and they just 3:25:25.360 --> 3:25:30.920 took safety divine. Mike, I've always said John John John 3:25:31.040 --> 3:25:32.920 walked out of the room for a minute. Gruden is 3:25:32.959 --> 3:25:34.840 good at this. He forgot he had back to back. 3:25:34.920 --> 3:25:38.480 It's like, oh, walked away, Oh what happened? The Ablo 3:25:38.560 --> 3:25:40.800 is one of my guys. I like Diablo too, go 3:25:40.879 --> 3:25:44.040 into it then, Jeff, Well, I just again, I go 3:25:44.200 --> 3:25:47.760 into watching guys kind of assuming things about them. And 3:25:47.879 --> 3:25:50.760 when I went in to watch Divine Diablo, I was like, oh, 3:25:51.360 --> 3:25:55.880 two hundred and thirty pounds too, like I'm about to 3:25:55.879 --> 3:25:58.720 watch a linebacker. But he's back there at safety and 3:25:58.800 --> 3:26:01.119 he can play a deep path. He played up deep 3:26:01.200 --> 3:26:04.560 some he plays forward. I like him tackling in the 3:26:04.640 --> 3:26:07.000 run game. I like the tackle radius he has with 3:26:07.120 --> 3:26:10.039 his length. There's awareness in there. You watch him picking 3:26:10.080 --> 3:26:11.879 off Trevor Lawrence in the back of the end zone. 3:26:12.440 --> 3:26:14.640 I think Diablo's a good player, and I know I 3:26:14.720 --> 3:26:16.680 was hirer on him than most people, but I had 3:26:16.760 --> 3:26:18.280 him as like a second round guy. I was a 3:26:18.320 --> 3:26:21.480 big fan so at eighty, Like I said, John Gruden's 3:26:21.520 --> 3:26:23.840 really good at this guys. He always picks the good players. 3:26:23.879 --> 3:26:28.440 He left the room for a minute. I made that 3:26:29.400 --> 3:26:33.840 Steed in there, there's a conversation to be shout out Walter, 3:26:35.320 --> 3:26:37.960 There's there's a conversation to be had about positional value. Like, 3:26:38.080 --> 3:26:40.080 I get it, there were better players. All I'm saying 3:26:40.160 --> 3:26:42.960 like they've they've made three picks and I like or 3:26:42.959 --> 3:26:44.680 I'm sorry, they've made four picks and I like three 3:26:44.720 --> 3:26:47.040 of them a lot. You just don't know who Malcolm 3:26:47.080 --> 3:26:49.560 Koons is though. I don't know. But hey, they get 3:26:49.600 --> 3:26:52.360 down with that Buffalo tape. No, sure, didn't you know? 3:26:52.720 --> 3:26:56.600 Like tape? Again? I follow the biases of the Cowboys, 3:26:56.680 --> 3:26:58.400 and I'm like, okay, when they draft, let me know 3:26:58.480 --> 3:27:00.720 when they draft a Buffalo defensive end one day two. 3:27:00.840 --> 3:27:02.360 They're not going to do that. Get out of here. 3:27:02.440 --> 3:27:05.240 That's why I didn't understand the Milton Williams thing. It's 3:27:05.240 --> 3:27:08.760 like Louisiana attack on day two doesn't make sense. Would 3:27:08.760 --> 3:27:13.840 you guys consider taking Jabril Cox here? I like the room. 3:27:14.280 --> 3:27:16.040 What are you gonna do? Yeah, who's getting cut? It's 3:27:16.040 --> 3:27:17.800 gonna be an edge rusher. I'm just saying, no, I 3:27:17.879 --> 3:27:20.360 mean a linebacker that can cover. Can I trade number 3:27:20.400 --> 3:27:26.040 fifty four from Okay? That's what I mean. I'm with you. 3:27:27.120 --> 3:27:30.600 Molden is my highest rated guy left, absolutely my highest rating. 3:27:30.640 --> 3:27:35.040 Can I trade both my linebackers? Long ahead of both? 3:27:35.160 --> 3:27:38.000 Brevin Jordan and Tommy Trumbull. That's a little surprised, is 3:27:38.000 --> 3:27:41.160 that Miami? Yeah, one Hunter long to out of Boston 3:27:41.240 --> 3:27:43.800 College to Miami. You freaked me out. You freaked me 3:27:43.840 --> 3:27:46.520 out when you do this because there's something you don't 3:27:46.720 --> 3:27:48.400 You're always like, we would you do this? And what 3:27:48.520 --> 3:27:50.760 it really means is that it's already He's already in 3:27:50.800 --> 3:27:53.280 the conversation, just trying to make you think, because that's 3:27:53.320 --> 3:27:55.400 what I'm saying, Jeff. You know I did these shows 3:27:55.520 --> 3:27:57.480 every day. Would you have jeffs tell me about, Hey, 3:27:57.520 --> 3:27:59.879 this guy, this guy can cover, this guy can cover. 3:28:00.000 --> 3:28:02.520 I'm like, yeah, case lsu, Yeah, he's right, he can cover. 3:28:03.040 --> 3:28:06.039 But I was just wondering, you know, that's the reason. 3:28:06.520 --> 3:28:09.440 And again what's what's done is done? Oh what's up? 3:28:09.720 --> 3:28:13.400 Oh we have the newest Dallas Cowboy there. Oh so 3:28:13.800 --> 3:28:18.120 DIGGI zoo out of UCLA. First off, congratulations, welcome to 3:28:18.320 --> 3:28:21.080 the Dallas Cowboys. We're glad you're here. Tell us just 3:28:21.280 --> 3:28:23.959 how this day is gone for you and what's going 3:28:24.000 --> 3:28:28.000 through your mind right now. It's been a nerve day, 3:28:28.120 --> 3:28:30.840 you know, it's uh, there's a moment that you I've 3:28:30.879 --> 3:28:34.880 been waiting for my whole function. But I I'm just 3:28:35.120 --> 3:28:38.279 I'm glad. I'm glad to be a partner the Dallas Cowboy. 3:28:40.879 --> 3:28:49.000 I'm right now, smooth. Absolutely, That's that's awesome and congratulations. 3:28:49.040 --> 3:28:51.240 I'm curious. You know, before you hopped on with us, 3:28:51.280 --> 3:28:55.040 we were talking about, uh, your your flexibility, your versatility. 3:28:55.120 --> 3:28:57.680 I'd love to hear it straight from the horse's mouth 3:28:57.920 --> 3:29:00.040 coming in you know right away as a rookie, what 3:29:00.120 --> 3:29:01.840 do you think you do best? How do you think 3:29:01.879 --> 3:29:06.199 you can help the Dallas Cowboys the quickest. I feel 3:29:06.280 --> 3:29:11.080 like this is a scheme for people that talks one 3:29:11.080 --> 3:29:16.040 of the STA article attack defensive line mentality. So that's 3:29:16.040 --> 3:29:18.440 something that I feel like. It's my strongest students. You're 3:29:18.440 --> 3:29:21.280 getting off the ball, being disruptive up the field and 3:29:21.440 --> 3:29:24.800 just uh you know, knocking guns back and sending a 3:29:25.280 --> 3:29:29.120 line of scrimmage and the time that I'm playing. So 3:29:29.360 --> 3:29:31.440 I feel like it goes with when I do very 3:29:31.480 --> 3:29:34.320 well and it's it's my skill, so I can come 3:29:34.440 --> 3:29:38.000 in pride. Do you feel like Oh so you feel 3:29:38.000 --> 3:29:40.480 like you? You like we were talking about you kind 3:29:40.520 --> 3:29:42.960 of playing what we would call the under tackle or 3:29:43.040 --> 3:29:46.120 that three technique on that outside shoulder or playing that 3:29:46.280 --> 3:29:49.840 one technique is like almost like the nose. Either position 3:29:50.000 --> 3:29:52.160 good for you? Playing tackle? I mean you're you're right 3:29:52.240 --> 3:29:54.080 when you watch your tape, you're up the field, if 3:29:54.120 --> 3:29:55.800 you're attacking, you're on the other side of the line 3:29:55.800 --> 3:29:58.680 of scrimmage. Is your one particular spot you feel like 3:29:58.720 --> 3:30:00.800 you're a little bit better at or is it like, hey, 3:30:00.959 --> 3:30:04.320 just plug me and let me go. I mean, I 3:30:04.480 --> 3:30:07.360 feel the best at the three tech, but put me 3:30:07.440 --> 3:30:09.960 in wherever. You know, I'm not a guy that has 3:30:10.080 --> 3:30:13.320 my heart set on a single position, particularly, I don't 3:30:13.320 --> 3:30:16.480 want to be on the field, so you know, wherever, 3:30:16.680 --> 3:30:18.640 wherever they're ask me to plan where I plan on 3:30:20.400 --> 3:30:24.240 and going one hundred and ten percent every snap. Oh so, 3:30:24.440 --> 3:30:27.040 my favorite thing about your tape is that list You're 3:30:27.080 --> 3:30:28.920 listed at like two hundred and eighty pounds and then 3:30:28.959 --> 3:30:30.680 I'll watch you line up all over the place and 3:30:31.120 --> 3:30:33.440 there's three hundred and thirty pound blockers and like they 3:30:33.440 --> 3:30:35.880 don't have a chance to move you. So my favorite 3:30:35.879 --> 3:30:37.920 thing to do in that situation is to look up 3:30:38.280 --> 3:30:40.560 how good of a wrestler was this guy they can't 3:30:40.640 --> 3:30:43.440 move And the answer was three time state champ. So 3:30:43.560 --> 3:30:45.840 how much does does that help you in terms of 3:30:46.000 --> 3:30:48.959 leverage and being like, I congrats on being three hundred 3:30:48.959 --> 3:31:02.720 and thirty pounds, but I'm not moving. I'm sorry. Looks 3:31:03.040 --> 3:31:06.600 looks like we lost o Diggi Zua. But hey, congratulations. 3:31:06.640 --> 3:31:08.640 If you can still hear us, we are excited to 3:31:08.720 --> 3:31:10.440 have you in Dallas and get to talk to you 3:31:11.120 --> 3:31:14.240 very very soon. There he goes Osa, oh Diggi Zua, 3:31:14.440 --> 3:31:18.760 the defensive tackle out of UCLA, filling that need for 3:31:18.920 --> 3:31:21.400 the Cowboys right in the middle of that defensive line. 3:31:21.400 --> 3:31:23.959 We gotta get a better connection here. Well, okay, these kids. 3:31:24.040 --> 3:31:26.600 The first thing the news buy phones. Just buy a phone, 3:31:27.080 --> 3:31:30.720 are a really good or plan or whatever. Somebody somebody 3:31:30.760 --> 3:31:33.720 who lives in a concrete shoebox of an apartment, I 3:31:33.879 --> 3:31:36.640 identify with that problem very well. So maybe he just 3:31:36.680 --> 3:31:38.280 didn't want to have to go outside to talk on 3:31:38.320 --> 3:31:40.840 the phone. Maybe we should blame us since we're in 3:31:40.879 --> 3:31:46.760 the biggest that's fair. We haven't used this phone line 3:31:47.360 --> 3:31:50.920 two years almost it's gonna warm up. Yeah, we gotta 3:31:50.959 --> 3:31:54.200 get it back in the get back into action. So well, 3:31:54.320 --> 3:31:57.520 we've we're getting closer. Eighty four is the next pick 3:31:57.600 --> 3:31:59.960 for the Cowboys. The pick is in for the Washington 3:32:00.280 --> 3:32:04.439 football team. They are at eighty two. In between Washington 3:32:04.720 --> 3:32:09.040 and Dallas are the Chicago Bears at eighty three. Last 3:32:09.120 --> 3:32:13.080 couple picks Hunter long tight end from Boston College, goes 3:32:13.120 --> 3:32:16.680 to Miami. And then we've got Divine Diablo, the safety 3:32:16.760 --> 3:32:20.360 for Virginia Tank going to Las Vegas. Dane, what are 3:32:20.360 --> 3:32:23.080 you thinking about our NFC's foe Washington here at the moment, 3:32:24.560 --> 3:32:29.640 Let's see they need wide receiver. Hope they they drafted 3:32:29.760 --> 3:32:32.920 cos Me in the seconds they address left task saying 3:32:33.040 --> 3:32:37.039 juice in the third. Okay, so tight end because Tommy Trumbull, 3:32:37.040 --> 3:32:39.680 brevn Jordans, because a wide receiver with a Marii Rodgers 3:32:39.879 --> 3:32:45.000 or Deommy Brown, that seems like the most likely area 3:32:45.120 --> 3:32:47.000 they could go. They went linebacker in the first, so 3:32:47.520 --> 3:32:50.120 really give your quarterback of pass catcher here and wide 3:32:50.120 --> 3:32:52.480 receiver a tight end is where Oh Deommy Brown, there 3:32:52.520 --> 3:32:56.000 we go. Best double move receiver in the draft. Speed 3:32:56.080 --> 3:32:59.440 can win, vertically tracks the ball really really well. It's 3:32:59.480 --> 3:33:02.960 still limited with that route tree, but a guy with 3:33:03.680 --> 3:33:06.720 the big play potentially average over twenty yards per catch 3:33:06.800 --> 3:33:10.720 each of the last two years. Love the speed I'd 3:33:10.720 --> 3:33:13.959 like this pick for Washington. Don't like it if you're 3:33:13.959 --> 3:33:16.640 the Cowboys. Yeah, that's a good player going at eighty two. 3:33:16.640 --> 3:33:19.080 By the way, miss Boke, it's actually Carolina at eighty 3:33:19.160 --> 3:33:23.320 three after that trade earlier in the round. Is edge 3:33:23.360 --> 3:33:26.160 rusher next up for the Cowboys? Because we talked about 3:33:26.240 --> 3:33:30.400 Jabrille Cox here, right, Brian, I mean back through his 3:33:30.560 --> 3:33:33.280 name out there, because you got a coverage linebacker, That's 3:33:33.320 --> 3:33:35.680 what That's the only thing I was talking about with him. 3:33:36.000 --> 3:33:37.840 Any chance for an edge rusher though, I mean we 3:33:37.920 --> 3:33:42.320 passed on Carlos Basham and things of the sword. There's Perkins. 3:33:42.640 --> 3:33:45.480 I like snowdon I know there's some people that might 3:33:45.600 --> 3:33:49.959 not like him. He's out of Virginia. Virginia. Weaver Pittsburgh 3:33:50.080 --> 3:33:52.039 is another guy. We think a guy like Snowdan fits 3:33:52.120 --> 3:33:54.120 this team, though, do you think fits I think I 3:33:54.200 --> 3:33:57.640 think Virginia did him a huge disservice by asking him 3:33:57.680 --> 3:34:00.200 to drop and playing coverage and all that. But they 3:34:00.280 --> 3:34:02.640 when he was rushing the passer, I thought he was 3:34:02.680 --> 3:34:05.600 pretty impressive doing that, you know, But when they they 3:34:05.640 --> 3:34:07.840 would ask him to drop it, it wasn't he looked 3:34:07.920 --> 3:34:10.440 terrible doing that, but they had that three man line. 3:34:10.520 --> 3:34:12.600 They played three down guys, and he was a stand 3:34:12.720 --> 3:34:15.520 up like almost like an outside linebacker. I kind of 3:34:15.560 --> 3:34:18.520 feel like with his length that if you get him 3:34:18.800 --> 3:34:21.880 on the edge and let him attack, he could cover 3:34:22.040 --> 3:34:24.480 some ground in those first couple of steps. I saw 3:34:24.480 --> 3:34:27.160 a pretty good, pretty good pass rusher there. But I 3:34:27.680 --> 3:34:30.440 think the Perkins kid. I have the Perkins kid from 3:34:30.520 --> 3:34:33.920 you know, so, uh we'll see yeah, Perkins. I think 3:34:34.040 --> 3:34:37.120 for me Perkins and Rashad Weaver Ronnie Perkins. Oh you 3:34:37.280 --> 3:34:39.800 Rashad Weaver Packers are my two guys too. If you 3:34:39.920 --> 3:34:41.560 if you were going to go with an edge guy, 3:34:41.640 --> 3:34:44.600 I think those guys work. Uh if O Diggi Zuwa 3:34:44.800 --> 3:34:46.480 is here to play the three, which is where he 3:34:46.520 --> 3:34:49.600 said he was most comfortable. Would you still take a 3:34:49.720 --> 3:34:53.440 one technique where you still got some guys that we 3:34:53.680 --> 3:34:57.080 really like? Um gosh, they could go a number of 3:34:57.120 --> 3:35:00.560 different ways. I still love Elijah Mold and if you 3:35:00.600 --> 3:35:04.240 had to medal fun will um so you still got 3:35:04.360 --> 3:35:06.440 good player. I mean I like the receivers that are 3:35:06.520 --> 3:35:09.480 left too. So the Dallas Cowboys are officially on the 3:35:09.600 --> 3:35:13.000 clock as the Panthers just selected Notre Dame tight end 3:35:13.120 --> 3:35:18.199 Tommy Tremble. We think an edge. Are we thinking running 3:35:18.200 --> 3:35:20.320 back or not running back? Excuse me, I don't know 3:35:20.360 --> 3:35:23.080 what I'm telling I read running back down here, I 3:35:23.200 --> 3:35:25.960 was running. I was reading running back here, edge rusher, 3:35:26.480 --> 3:35:28.920 maybe a safety if you wanted to go that direction. 3:35:30.520 --> 3:35:36.120 Anything here. I I'm prepared to be disappointed. I'm prepared 3:35:36.160 --> 3:35:38.000 for them to not draft Moulden, which is what I 3:35:38.040 --> 3:35:42.280 would do. I would do that too. Um. I don't know. 3:35:42.320 --> 3:35:44.320 I just maybe you go with a guard here. They 3:35:44.360 --> 3:35:47.120 don't like his size. You always think that they would 3:35:47.160 --> 3:35:49.120 like at this point in time, would maybe think about 3:35:49.160 --> 3:35:55.080 the tackle McCarthy offense. I'm feeling either at this pick 3:35:55.280 --> 3:35:57.680 or at ninety nine, they would take a tackle. Which 3:35:57.720 --> 3:36:01.520 one's your favorite? That's left Hudson or Smith? I mocked 3:36:01.560 --> 3:36:03.560 him Smith. I thought that Hudson would have been gone 3:36:03.600 --> 3:36:06.840 by now, to be honest with you. So here's Tommy Trimble. 3:36:06.879 --> 3:36:10.920 He just went, yeah, Carolina, read that a couple seconds ago. 3:36:11.440 --> 3:36:14.120 That you're good. Notre Dame tight end, Tommy Trimble. That's 3:36:14.160 --> 3:36:17.560 the fourth tight end taken. Now, yes, fourth tight end takeing. 3:36:17.600 --> 3:36:20.440 Brevin Jordan's still available. He of course had conversations with 3:36:20.520 --> 3:36:27.040 the Cowboys that made some noise, Spencer Brown, Tyland Wallace, 3:36:27.160 --> 3:36:31.400 Anthony Schwartz, or hanging around at receiver Nico Collins. I'm 3:36:31.520 --> 3:36:33.520 literally just reading a list right now. I mean this, 3:36:33.879 --> 3:36:35.920 this is why I wanted to take, which I know 3:36:36.200 --> 3:36:38.920 they went ahead of time, but like I'm imagining a 3:36:39.000 --> 3:36:42.760 world where they drafted the corner at ten and Jabril 3:36:42.840 --> 3:36:45.240 Cox is still sitting way down here. I feel really 3:36:45.280 --> 3:36:47.480 good about I mean, drafting him. They wouldn't be picking 3:36:47.600 --> 3:36:49.920 right now in that situation, but you get my point. 3:36:50.440 --> 3:36:53.480 I just I love the linebacker. I love this linebacker class, 3:36:53.520 --> 3:36:56.400 particularly on Day two. I would draft him if you 3:36:56.440 --> 3:36:58.680 hadn't already drafted Michael Parsons. I'm just not sure how 3:36:58.720 --> 3:37:00.800 you manage all those line ackers if that's what you 3:37:00.879 --> 3:37:03.760 were to do. The pick is in, so that's good. 3:37:04.560 --> 3:37:07.160 That's good. They made their decisions. So that's fun. Michael 3:37:07.200 --> 3:37:10.039 Irvin and showing off and working the crowd a little 3:37:10.080 --> 3:37:13.080 bit in Cleveland. Of course, the Cowboys picked so far 3:37:13.200 --> 3:37:17.360 at twelve Micah Parsons. Linebacker corner Kelvin Joseph was the 3:37:17.400 --> 3:37:19.560 first pick of Day two. He was at forty four, 3:37:19.840 --> 3:37:23.039 and then we just talked to him Osa Odigizuoa, defensive 3:37:23.080 --> 3:37:26.720 tackle out of UCLA, was the third pick of the draft, 3:37:26.800 --> 3:37:28.920 second pick of the day, and of course they do 3:37:29.080 --> 3:37:33.120 have another one coming up in just a couple of picks. 3:37:33.720 --> 3:37:36.039 This is the pick that the Cowboys got for trading 3:37:36.120 --> 3:37:39.120 back from ten to twelve to select Micah Parsons. With 3:37:39.280 --> 3:37:42.240 the eighty fourth pick in the NFL Draft, the Dallas 3:37:42.360 --> 3:37:46.959 Cowboys on the clock and they select defensive in Jauncy 3:37:47.120 --> 3:37:50.600 Gholston out of Iowa Dane. I mean, this is a 3:37:51.000 --> 3:37:54.440 power rusher and he had a really, really good senior Bowl. 3:37:54.920 --> 3:37:57.959 He is a really good player. And listen, the testing 3:37:58.080 --> 3:38:00.960 numbers aren't great. He is not a big time athlete, 3:38:01.320 --> 3:38:06.280 but he's instinctive. He's tough, he's strong inside outside, he 3:38:06.520 --> 3:38:08.720 knows where the ball is going to be and he 3:38:08.920 --> 3:38:12.360 meets the ball carrier there. He arrives with thump. Big 3:38:12.480 --> 3:38:16.039 fan of Chauncey Golston. I think I actually mocked him 3:38:16.080 --> 3:38:18.920 to the Cowboys in the fourth round, so you know, 3:38:19.560 --> 3:38:21.320 he goes a little bit earlier than we thought, but 3:38:21.760 --> 3:38:24.360 no problem with drafting him here. He's an upgrade on 3:38:24.440 --> 3:38:28.480 this defensive line. Yeah, this guy. What's interesting about him 3:38:28.600 --> 3:38:31.920 is he's got the ability to be time, so he 3:38:32.320 --> 3:38:34.640 tends to come and go for him. There'll be some 3:38:34.800 --> 3:38:37.480 really good rushes and then others where he appears he 3:38:37.640 --> 3:38:40.400 gets distracted. And I thought he had a really good 3:38:40.440 --> 3:38:42.680 first step off the ball, but quite can't finish the 3:38:42.760 --> 3:38:44.760 rush when he needed to on some of those snaps. 3:38:45.320 --> 3:38:47.920 But you know, when he got tied up or gets chipped, 3:38:48.680 --> 3:38:50.640 you know, it throws him off a little bits. But 3:38:50.800 --> 3:38:52.879 some of his best pass rushes when it came off 3:38:52.920 --> 3:38:55.840 the edge and used in the twist game, I understand 3:38:55.879 --> 3:38:57.680 what Dane saw in the player when he could get 3:38:57.720 --> 3:38:59.880 a free rush to the quarterback. He does have a burst. 3:39:00.000 --> 3:39:02.120 He could get the guy to the ground deliver a 3:39:02.160 --> 3:39:03.920 blow when he gets in position. He'd be a hard 3:39:03.959 --> 3:39:06.280 guy to run the edge on too. That ball gets 3:39:06.360 --> 3:39:10.080 the outside. He is kind of stretching, stretching, stretching. I 3:39:10.240 --> 3:39:12.520 did say he has some DeMarcus lawrence to his game, 3:39:12.560 --> 3:39:14.400 and it comes to play in the run because he's 3:39:14.400 --> 3:39:17.520 not gonna let you get outside of him. But he 3:39:17.680 --> 3:39:20.000 plays off some blocks pretty well, extending on his guy 3:39:20.040 --> 3:39:22.480 and then shedding to make the play. So there's more 3:39:22.520 --> 3:39:24.680 to his game. But you know, maybe every team. I 3:39:24.720 --> 3:39:26.640 said this, whatever team drafts him will have to figure 3:39:26.640 --> 3:39:29.320 out how to make him more consistent as a player. 3:39:30.400 --> 3:39:33.200 I love him. Yeah, you were, you were the most 3:39:33.280 --> 3:39:35.520 excited about him. I think this is my favorite pick 3:39:36.320 --> 3:39:39.400 on Day two for this team. I just he's a 3:39:39.440 --> 3:39:41.840 really quality player. I mean I just think like there's 3:39:41.879 --> 3:39:44.160 some guys that you look at the traits and you 3:39:44.200 --> 3:39:46.720 look at the testing numbers, and this guy, it just 3:39:47.040 --> 3:39:48.680 I don't know. I thought he was a little more 3:39:48.680 --> 3:39:51.960 consistent than Brian did. But he's just he's just a 3:39:52.000 --> 3:39:54.560 good football player. I don't know. I he sold me 3:39:54.680 --> 3:39:56.840 pretty pretty quickly on the Iowa tape, and then I 3:39:56.879 --> 3:39:58.560 thought the Senior Bowl he kind of backed it up. 3:39:59.320 --> 3:40:02.280 By the way, Rodgers just went to Green Bay with 3:40:02.400 --> 3:40:05.840 the eighty fifth selection, and if they're gonna if they 3:40:05.920 --> 3:40:08.560 trade it up, I mean eventually they were finally gonna 3:40:08.560 --> 3:40:10.920 do it right, gonna help somebody out in Green Bay, 3:40:11.080 --> 3:40:14.000 finally try to make your you know, best quarterback ever. 3:40:14.160 --> 3:40:18.920 So he quit, he's not playing anymore. That's now. Let's 3:40:18.959 --> 3:40:20.240 go ahead and take a break. When we come back, 3:40:20.240 --> 3:40:23.800 we're gonna continue breaking down at Chauncey Golston, the pick 3:40:23.920 --> 3:40:25.840 out of Iowa will hear from him and just a 3:40:25.879 --> 3:40:28.320 little bit as we continue rolling along, you're listening to 3:40:28.400 --> 3:40:30.480 the twenty twenty one NFL Draft on one of five 3:40:30.560 --> 3:40:36.760 three the Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com back you're 3:40:36.800 --> 3:40:39.920 on the internet side, So, Brian, do you like the pick? 3:40:40.080 --> 3:40:42.640 Yes or no? Thumbs up? Thumbs down here for Chauncy. 3:40:42.760 --> 3:40:46.039 That was the fourth round, and I understand where Dane's going. 3:40:46.120 --> 3:40:48.240 I just don't see a consistent player there. I do 3:40:48.400 --> 3:40:50.879 see a good run player, though, I see an occasional 3:40:50.959 --> 3:40:53.200 pass rusher, but I mean he's needed to take a 3:40:53.280 --> 3:40:55.760 better advantage of his first step. That's just the tape 3:40:55.760 --> 3:41:00.280 at I saw Jeff I liked. I thought, you know, 3:41:00.400 --> 3:41:02.000 I think he's not going to always win as a 3:41:02.040 --> 3:41:04.480 pass rusher, just because I don't think that he's a 3:41:06.040 --> 3:41:09.280 agile rushers limited. Yeah, like he's not going to turn 3:41:09.360 --> 3:41:12.520 the corner on you and maybe not like a quick 3:41:12.640 --> 3:41:15.760 inside out, but you know he is. He's a power 3:41:15.879 --> 3:41:18.840 player that I think is going to be a steady 3:41:18.920 --> 3:41:22.080 run player. Like he's an NFL ready, dude, he's not 3:41:22.080 --> 3:41:23.960 gonna make a Pro Bowl, right, I got He's not 3:41:24.040 --> 3:41:26.600 that type of high upside guy, right, He's not gonna 3:41:26.600 --> 3:41:28.520 be a double digit SAT guy, but I think that 3:41:28.720 --> 3:41:31.160 he could walk into a lot of NFL teams right 3:41:31.200 --> 3:41:34.200 now and be their third or fourth edge guy and 3:41:34.720 --> 3:41:36.880 you know, play snaps for you in NFL games and 3:41:37.000 --> 3:41:40.080 not hurt you. So for the Cowboys, I do think 3:41:40.840 --> 3:41:45.000 that they're not following necessarily the BPA thing anymore because 3:41:45.080 --> 3:41:47.040 now you start look. Now you start to look at 3:41:47.120 --> 3:41:50.000 what their draft looks like, and it's now a linebacker, corner, 3:41:50.280 --> 3:41:53.800 d tackle edge like They're they're spreading it out and 3:41:53.920 --> 3:41:56.920 try to put a lot of new faces on this defense. 3:41:58.000 --> 3:42:02.600 And I like going BPA as much as possible until 3:42:02.640 --> 3:42:05.680 it stops making sense. But the guys that they're picking 3:42:06.240 --> 3:42:08.960 that aren't my BPA. They are picking guys I like, 3:42:09.520 --> 3:42:13.320 but you're you're reading a lot of positive notes about them, 3:42:13.320 --> 3:42:15.760 and I like Gholston. I like Gholston more than I 3:42:15.840 --> 3:42:18.360 like Go DIGIZOOA. Here's the impression that I'm getting from 3:42:18.400 --> 3:42:21.600 what's happening here, which I mean it makes sense. The 3:42:21.800 --> 3:42:26.960 Cowboys have the offense to contend, and they're building a 3:42:27.080 --> 3:42:32.200 defense that cannot completely screw that up, and sometimes that 3:42:32.360 --> 3:42:36.000 means like not taking the best player available which I like. 3:42:36.120 --> 3:42:38.240 I don't have a big beef with any of these picks. 3:42:38.280 --> 3:42:40.240 There are other guys I would have taken, But it's 3:42:40.240 --> 3:42:42.720 almost like they're following a blueprint of like you know, 3:42:42.800 --> 3:42:44.400 we said it. You know, they have Tank and they 3:42:44.440 --> 3:42:46.560 have Randy, and there's not a lot else there. And 3:42:47.200 --> 3:42:49.880 I like the idea of drafting a ready made power 3:42:49.920 --> 3:42:51.720 guy who's going to come in and do dirty work 3:42:51.800 --> 3:42:55.040 more than I like the idea of um a guy 3:42:55.120 --> 3:42:58.039 Like this might sound crazy, but I would rather take 3:42:58.080 --> 3:43:00.560 this guy later than take a chance on OSA earlier. 3:43:01.000 --> 3:43:04.160 And like maybe he maybe he's amazing, maybe he's a bust, 3:43:04.280 --> 3:43:06.280 you know what I mean. And that's these are low 3:43:06.400 --> 3:43:09.080 risk picks. A lot of these. It's like maybe these 3:43:09.120 --> 3:43:11.120 guys are never stars, but they can come in, Oh 3:43:11.200 --> 3:43:13.760 DIGGI ZOOA can beef up two to three positions on 3:43:13.879 --> 3:43:16.160 your line. This guy can rotate in and do the 3:43:16.280 --> 3:43:19.960 dirty work, you know, Kelvin Joseph gives you a boundary corner. 3:43:20.360 --> 3:43:22.560 I just feel like they're trying to be They're trying 3:43:22.640 --> 3:43:25.080 to build a defense that can be middle of the 3:43:25.200 --> 3:43:28.200 pack or better, because that's probably all you need. It's 3:43:28.240 --> 3:43:34.160 honestly like they're drafting for to drafting away from the projections. 3:43:34.280 --> 3:43:37.000 They're just looking for straight floor for some of these guys. 3:43:37.120 --> 3:43:39.880 Because the floor I would agree with that all four 3:43:39.920 --> 3:43:42.199 of the picks they've made. The floor is very high. 3:43:43.200 --> 3:43:45.640 Now the ceiling may not be much higher. It feels 3:43:45.680 --> 3:43:48.480 to me like they're trying to build, like they're trying 3:43:48.520 --> 3:43:50.520 to draft guys that can just come in right now 3:43:50.680 --> 3:43:54.720 and may and I mean everybody guys like that. That 3:43:54.879 --> 3:43:58.960 pick Doward's Armstrong too three years ago. You know, you 3:43:59.040 --> 3:44:01.040 really get a trust the guys too. I mean, I 3:44:01.120 --> 3:44:04.040 know it's a new defensive staff and all that, but 3:44:04.200 --> 3:44:06.360 when you know you're telling me about guys that I'm 3:44:06.400 --> 3:44:08.920 telling you guys too that oh they played the run well, 3:44:09.000 --> 3:44:10.879 and oh he's got to work a little bit better 3:44:10.959 --> 3:44:13.199 on his past. He's not gonna be a Pro Bowl player. 3:44:13.240 --> 3:44:14.760 It's not gonna be this or that. And I understand 3:44:14.800 --> 3:44:17.440 we're in the third round. I get it, but you 3:44:17.520 --> 3:44:19.840 know you drafted guys like Bradley and I last year 3:44:19.840 --> 3:44:22.680 who didn't even see the field. You've got you Doran's 3:44:22.800 --> 3:44:26.680 Armstrong will make one play every third game. You know, 3:44:26.840 --> 3:44:30.760 I think Golson's a lot better than a nine and Dorance, 3:44:30.800 --> 3:44:33.640 though in my opinion, I don't think there's I don't 3:44:33.640 --> 3:44:36.080 think there Bradley and I was was a PAC twelve 3:44:36.120 --> 3:44:39.119 Defensive Player of the Year. Wasn't he last year? He wasn't. 3:44:39.200 --> 3:44:41.000 He wasn't the year. But he was like a sack 3:44:41.120 --> 3:44:43.520 leader or something. He was a good college player. But 3:44:43.600 --> 3:44:46.440 I don't I mean we didn't. We didn't greet him 3:44:46.440 --> 3:44:48.520 as a top one hundred player, right. No, No, I 3:44:48.600 --> 3:44:51.400 mean it's not like we expected him to be this uh, 3:44:51.520 --> 3:44:54.000 this all world player. I mean, I'm surprised he didn't 3:44:54.320 --> 3:44:56.680 make more of an impact as a rookie. But I said, 3:44:56.720 --> 3:44:59.520 this guy is very similar. You guys are we're all 3:44:59.600 --> 3:45:01.960 I guess we're all okay with us the tank Lawrence 3:45:02.040 --> 3:45:04.320 playing the run, right, is that we're we're staying here. 3:45:04.560 --> 3:45:06.160 We're all we're okay with the guy. Just we're just 3:45:06.200 --> 3:45:08.000 gonna play the run with this guy. Thanks, good against 3:45:08.040 --> 3:45:09.480 the run? Where are you talking about? No? But but 3:45:09.600 --> 3:45:11.400 does this guy does this guy rush? Can this guy 3:45:11.480 --> 3:45:14.160 rush the passer well enough for you to to make 3:45:14.200 --> 3:45:17.440 a difference? Golston? Yeah? Probably not, that's not Yeah. I 3:45:17.480 --> 3:45:20.480 wouldn't say that he's gonna give you he's not gonna 3:45:20.520 --> 3:45:23.400 give you nine to twelve sacks in a year. No, 3:45:23.560 --> 3:45:26.160 that's not his straight. I'll wait till we come back 3:45:26.200 --> 3:45:28.680 to radio. But that's kind of my point. Brian. Well, 3:45:29.840 --> 3:45:31.640 did you guys feel like there are better players on 3:45:31.760 --> 3:45:35.120 that board than this kid? Yes? Yes, okay, yeah, I 3:45:35.200 --> 3:45:43.039 just want to make sure that thank you. The NFL 3:45:43.200 --> 3:45:45.640 Draft rolls on here all one oh five three the 3:45:45.720 --> 3:45:48.720 fan in Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Cavital, 3:45:48.760 --> 3:45:52.039 Brian brought us Dame Brugler. We've got David Hellman here 3:45:52.160 --> 3:45:56.000 as well, live from inside the Star in Frisco. Wyant 3:45:56.080 --> 3:46:00.879 Davis and the guard from Ohio State goes to Minnesota 3:46:01.320 --> 3:46:04.520 here at eighty six. So we have seen a couple 3:46:04.520 --> 3:46:06.600 of good players go off the board ever since. The 3:46:06.680 --> 3:46:10.440 Cowboys selected edge rusher Chauncey Golston out of Iowa, who, 3:46:10.600 --> 3:46:12.840 by the way, we have secret audio from Let's hear 3:46:13.080 --> 3:46:15.520 from Chauncey Golston in the moment he was drafted by 3:46:15.600 --> 3:46:20.039 the Cowboys. Hey, Chauncey. Jerry Jones with the Cowboys. Hey, 3:46:22.760 --> 3:46:24.840 what I'm calling you about is we just turned in 3:46:24.959 --> 3:46:27.920 your card. We're gonna we're gonna You're gonna be a 3:46:28.040 --> 3:46:32.120 Dallas cowboy. A cowboy I love. That would be great, 3:46:32.200 --> 3:46:36.920 that'd be great. Well, I'll tell you I'm proud for you. Uh's. 3:46:37.440 --> 3:46:40.800 It's a great place to be. You should you should 3:46:40.840 --> 3:46:43.600 be proud. You've worked hard. But I know your family's 3:46:43.959 --> 3:46:46.879 gonna be proud of you. But we're excited that you're 3:46:46.920 --> 3:46:51.520 gonna be a Dallas cowboy. That's the bottom line. Thank you, 3:46:51.560 --> 3:46:55.160 appreciate the car. Okay, wait, hey, don't leave me, Hey, 3:46:55.200 --> 3:46:59.200 don't leave me. Are you gone? Hey? Okay, well, don't 3:46:59.240 --> 3:47:03.840 be gone. Don't be gone. But here's here's your head coach, 3:47:03.959 --> 3:47:07.240 Mike McCarthy. Okay, he wants to talk to you. Welcome 3:47:07.360 --> 3:47:13.600 for the Cowboys. Thank you, thank you, Chauncey. Congratulations, thank you. Hey, 3:47:14.000 --> 3:47:16.320 hey to appreciate the car. Oh you bet hey? Where 3:47:16.320 --> 3:47:20.160 are you right now? I'm how many Detroit right now? Okay? Awesome, 3:47:20.200 --> 3:47:22.800 way and enjoyed the special moment with your family and friends. 3:47:22.840 --> 3:47:25.400 And I can't tell you how excited you we are 3:47:25.480 --> 3:47:27.879 to make you part of this, this this great organization. 3:47:27.959 --> 3:47:30.520 This is a phenomenal opportunity for for you and for 3:47:30.600 --> 3:47:33.720 what's in front of you. I'm more than I'm more 3:47:33.720 --> 3:47:42.080 than all right, man. Okay. So that is the secret 3:47:42.120 --> 3:47:45.400 audio from Chauncey Golston as he was selected by the 3:47:45.480 --> 3:47:48.760 Cowboys eighty fourth overall. By the way, the next Cowboys picked. 3:47:49.200 --> 3:47:52.400 We are about twelve selections away as they are at 3:47:52.600 --> 3:47:56.240 ninety nine to conclude the day, and they are six 3:47:56.320 --> 3:48:00.760 picks from the end of to excuse me today's drafting. 3:48:00.920 --> 3:48:03.160 So go ahead and take a BPA swing. You know, 3:48:03.240 --> 3:48:06.120 it's kind of let's take it's a BPA swing. Let 3:48:06.240 --> 3:48:08.800 Ronnie Perkins be around, and then to Brian's point, we'll 3:48:08.800 --> 3:48:11.640 go try to find a guy that's a pass rush. Finally, 3:48:11.680 --> 3:48:15.280 go on offense. I think so offensive line. Can I 3:48:15.360 --> 3:48:18.560 take an early gas here just to see, just from 3:48:18.680 --> 3:48:22.119 rumblings i've heard Anthony Schwartz wide receiver out of Auburn. 3:48:23.120 --> 3:48:26.760 I have heard as well, Yeah, I'd rather pick a 3:48:26.840 --> 3:48:29.360 better player, but I get it. I mean, watch it happen. 3:48:29.680 --> 3:48:31.800 That's just my guest. He see, that's one of those 3:48:31.840 --> 3:48:33.920 picks where I wouldn't be thrilled. That's a good pick 3:48:33.959 --> 3:48:41.400 by the Steelers. That's an athlete. Very surprised. Quinn Miners 3:48:41.680 --> 3:48:44.920 still on the board, right yep, he sure. That's very 3:48:45.000 --> 3:48:48.080 very SROs. That would be that would be pretty ironic 3:48:48.160 --> 3:48:50.360 if you know, we're talking about the Cowboys making these 3:48:50.440 --> 3:48:54.240 high floor picks, ready made guys, and then cap it 3:48:54.320 --> 3:48:56.840 off with the fastest player in the draft who you 3:48:56.959 --> 3:49:00.560 don't have a role for right now. Special teams. Maybe 3:49:01.120 --> 3:49:03.160 I would love if what they did was they got 3:49:03.200 --> 3:49:05.480 to ninety nine and if some of these guys are 3:49:05.560 --> 3:49:11.800 still very available, like Baron Browning, Ronnie Perkins, like give 3:49:11.840 --> 3:49:13.680 me a guy that's just like, go get the quarterback. 3:49:13.800 --> 3:49:16.640 So we do have Chauncey Golston on the line edge 3:49:16.680 --> 3:49:21.480 rusher out of Iowa knew was Dallas Cowboy. Chauncey, First off, congratulations, 3:49:21.600 --> 3:49:23.680 just kind of explain what this moment is like for you. 3:49:25.000 --> 3:49:28.120 This is, oh my god, life changing moment right here. 3:49:28.560 --> 3:49:30.160 I don't even know how to It's kind of hard 3:49:30.200 --> 3:49:36.120 to put into words. Really really really just grateful, really grateful. Man. Hey, 3:49:36.320 --> 3:49:39.480 congrats Chauncey. We heard the secret audio of you talking 3:49:39.560 --> 3:49:42.880 to Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy. It sounded like you 3:49:42.960 --> 3:49:45.120 almost hung up on Jerry. Were you just like trying 3:49:45.160 --> 3:49:49.000 to go, you know, party with your family. No, it 3:49:49.160 --> 3:49:50.880 wasn't that I was about to hang up. It was 3:49:51.000 --> 3:49:53.480 just like I was, I was lost the words. I'm like, 3:49:54.200 --> 3:49:58.080 I trained down there in Dallas, like for my my 3:49:58.920 --> 3:50:02.320 prodec trying and like I've seen a lot of like 3:50:02.600 --> 3:50:05.520 uh commercials with Jerry Jones on it, and just to 3:50:05.800 --> 3:50:08.320 like hear him on the phone, I was, I was 3:50:08.400 --> 3:50:10.480 lost the words. So I wasn't about to hang up. 3:50:10.520 --> 3:50:13.480 I just didn't know what to say. Honestly, Hey, Chuncy, 3:50:13.640 --> 3:50:15.840 we saw you down there at the Senior Bowl and 3:50:15.960 --> 3:50:18.600 getting some opportunities. Can you talk about that experience for 3:50:18.760 --> 3:50:22.840 you and how it helped you. You know, you're getting 3:50:23.040 --> 3:50:25.800 in front of those eyes, the scouts, the coaches, gems 3:50:25.840 --> 3:50:27.920 and stuff like. Talk about your Senior Bowl experience and 3:50:27.920 --> 3:50:31.240 how it helps you there. Okay, So like I'm this 3:50:31.360 --> 3:50:34.920 is high. Went so our very first day like a 3:50:35.080 --> 3:50:38.040 position meetings. I saw that there was like nine defensive 3:50:38.200 --> 3:50:42.240 ends and two defensive tackles, and I'm like, these are 3:50:42.280 --> 3:50:45.160 all really good players. I could fight for a few 3:50:45.240 --> 3:50:48.080 reps at in or I can get maximal exposure at 3:50:48.160 --> 3:50:52.560 defensive tackles. So you know, I went in there. So 3:50:52.840 --> 3:50:56.040 my d line h coach at Iowa coach Calvin Bell 3:50:56.480 --> 3:50:58.960 that I'm gonna be uh taking a lot of reps 3:50:59.000 --> 3:51:01.440 at defense to talk with the get in front of 3:51:01.480 --> 3:51:04.560 as many coaches as I possibly could, and well, like 3:51:04.800 --> 3:51:07.560 I guess to pay it off right now. So what 3:51:07.840 --> 3:51:10.600 was your what was your contact like with the Cowboys? 3:51:10.680 --> 3:51:13.520 Did you know that this this possibility was out there? 3:51:14.520 --> 3:51:18.720 I didn't. I didn't know, honestly, and I would. I 3:51:18.880 --> 3:51:21.480 was just ready to give my off to whatever team 3:51:21.600 --> 3:51:24.680 drafting me. Where do you think your role is gonna 3:51:24.680 --> 3:51:28.040 be in this defense here? If you had to guess, 3:51:28.080 --> 3:51:29.480 I don't know if you've had a chance to talk 3:51:29.520 --> 3:51:32.840 with your defensive coordinator yet, but just in your thought 3:51:32.960 --> 3:51:34.880 process and what you know about the Cowboys, where do 3:51:34.880 --> 3:51:38.240 you think you'll fit in? UM, I'm just trying to 3:51:38.680 --> 3:51:41.680 for I'm trying to provide wherever I can, honestly, or 3:51:41.680 --> 3:51:45.640 wherever I can, no matter inside, outside, wherever, wherever they 3:51:45.720 --> 3:51:48.560 need me, I'm there for it. But damn it, Chauncey, 3:51:48.640 --> 3:51:52.560 you sound like a perfect teammate and I'm excited to congratulations. 3:51:52.720 --> 3:51:55.840 Hey Chauncey, really just just at a UM kind of 3:51:55.840 --> 3:51:57.440 a stabbing that there? Did you go? You went to 3:51:57.680 --> 3:52:01.800 cast Tech in Detroit. Right. No, no, no, no, no, no, 3:52:02.240 --> 3:52:07.560 I got that wrong. I'm so sorry. No, but Jordan, 3:52:08.000 --> 3:52:10.360 Jordan Lewis. That's why. That's actually why I brought it up. 3:52:10.400 --> 3:52:12.200 I knew Jordan went to cass I was wondering if 3:52:12.240 --> 3:52:14.680 you know him? Yeah, nah, nah, he went, he went 3:52:14.760 --> 3:52:16.800 to the cast I went to use English. Is there 3:52:16.800 --> 3:52:21.880 a rivalry between those two? Yeah, yeah, they used to 3:52:21.960 --> 3:52:26.280 be used to be something like that, so high school stuff. 3:52:26.360 --> 3:52:27.960 Do you know Jordan at all? I guess that's the 3:52:28.040 --> 3:52:30.440 main reason I asked. I'm just wondering if we don't 3:52:30.440 --> 3:52:33.120 have we don't have a personal relationship, but I know 3:52:33.240 --> 3:52:35.280 of him. You know, I try to keep up with 3:52:35.360 --> 3:52:38.160 any guy that makes it out of the city. Absolutely well, 3:52:38.280 --> 3:52:40.120 I'm I have a feeling you'll be meeting him before 3:52:40.200 --> 3:52:42.960 too long. So welcome to board man. Glad to have you, 3:52:44.080 --> 3:52:46.640 but you appreciate you taking some time with us. Chauncey, 3:52:46.760 --> 3:52:49.480 go celebrate, congratulations. We look forward to seeing you're here 3:52:49.480 --> 3:52:53.320 in Frisco. Thank you. There, he goes johncy Goldston new 3:52:53.360 --> 3:52:56.960 with Dallas cowboy ed Drusher from Iowa. I like that, Jeff, 3:52:57.040 --> 3:52:59.280 I agree, I kind of felt the same way, got 3:52:59.320 --> 3:53:00.920 that same feeling. He just seems like a guy you 3:53:00.920 --> 3:53:02.880 would like being around. I mean, that would seem like 3:53:02.960 --> 3:53:04.400 a guy that would get the most out of the 3:53:04.480 --> 3:53:07.680 Senior Bowl, who walks in and immediately knows what it's about. 3:53:07.720 --> 3:53:09.600 Where it's like, how can I get maximum exposure? How 3:53:09.640 --> 3:53:12.480 can I get the most reps? Coaches can I'll play 3:53:12.480 --> 3:53:15.000 over there? You want to play over there? I don't 3:53:15.040 --> 3:53:17.200 know everything about talking to him. That makes me sound 3:53:17.240 --> 3:53:19.960 like you want fifty three of them. And you know, 3:53:20.280 --> 3:53:21.760 if you can find a bunch of dudes that are 3:53:21.760 --> 3:53:24.440 super talented and they're not gonna be Chauncey Gholston's, that's 3:53:24.440 --> 3:53:26.240 all right. We'll take some of those two. But the 3:53:26.360 --> 3:53:28.840 more dudes that think like that, I think, the better 3:53:28.920 --> 3:53:30.800 off you are. I find me a coach that doesn't 3:53:30.840 --> 3:53:34.840 like him. You talk to Kirk Franz loves him. He 3:53:34.920 --> 3:53:38.920 called him an absolute delight exact quote from his IOWA coach. So, 3:53:39.080 --> 3:53:41.120 I mean, he's just an easy player to like because 3:53:41.120 --> 3:53:43.600 of the football character. He's a team captain. He's just 3:53:43.640 --> 3:53:45.400 gonna come in and do what has asked of him 3:53:45.520 --> 3:53:50.800 and exceed expectations. So really just a quality football player 3:53:50.920 --> 3:53:53.280 that I think the Cowboys could be very excited about 3:53:53.320 --> 3:53:55.680 on that defensive line. By the way, the Texans just 3:53:55.800 --> 3:53:59.040 traded into pick number eighty nine, as we are now 3:53:59.120 --> 3:54:02.800 ten selections away from the Cowboys and what would be 3:54:02.920 --> 3:54:05.040 their final pick of the night. Dane, you talked about 3:54:05.080 --> 3:54:08.360 it earlier whenever the Cowboys were thinking about trading up, Brian, 3:54:08.400 --> 3:54:10.720 I think you mentioned it as well. But the Cowboys 3:54:10.760 --> 3:54:14.080 were looking at these three third round picks and we're saying, hey, 3:54:14.120 --> 3:54:16.640 there's an opportunity here to maybe move up, maybe make 3:54:16.760 --> 3:54:20.160 less than four picks today. However, it looks like they're 3:54:20.160 --> 3:54:22.800 gonna make all all three selections here in this third round. 3:54:24.080 --> 3:54:27.560 It is, and you know that's not a bad thing, 3:54:27.720 --> 3:54:31.120 you know, going with the quantity this team could use it, 3:54:31.240 --> 3:54:33.840 especially on the defensive side of the ball. I just 3:54:34.280 --> 3:54:36.960 I'm very interested to see where they go with this 3:54:37.080 --> 3:54:40.080 final pick. Are they going to go on the offensive line? 3:54:40.320 --> 3:54:45.360 Could they go receiver, could they go safety? You know, 3:54:45.440 --> 3:54:47.120 where are they going to go with this final third 3:54:47.200 --> 3:54:50.680 round pick. It's going to be an interesting decision. They 3:54:50.760 --> 3:54:53.200 did what they wanted for these first two and that's fine. 3:54:53.240 --> 3:54:54.840 Like I don't really have a big problem with it, 3:54:54.880 --> 3:54:56.480 but give me give me a guy, give me Mike, 3:54:56.560 --> 3:55:00.440 give me my guy. Well, if I could drought up 3:55:00.480 --> 3:55:02.200 the way I want to, Tom Wallace would be fun. 3:55:02.520 --> 3:55:05.000 If he's still hang around, Elijah Molden would make me 3:55:05.120 --> 3:55:09.280 super happy. Okay, let's stick along that same line of conversation. 3:55:09.360 --> 3:55:11.640 But there are a lot of guys here that could 3:55:11.720 --> 3:55:14.040 make an immediate impact in or higher on our boards. Dane, 3:55:14.080 --> 3:55:16.800 what are your top guys on your big board right now? 3:55:17.840 --> 3:55:21.520 Let me pull this up here. It's our Darius Washington, 3:55:22.080 --> 3:55:30.000 is it not? So? Come on? Guys available here? Elijah Molden, 3:55:30.640 --> 3:55:35.520 Quinn Miners, if you ought to melofon Wu, what's happening 3:55:35.560 --> 3:55:39.360 with him? Why is he still available? Um? Nico Collins 3:55:39.440 --> 3:55:43.760 wide receiver Michigan was the pick to Houston. Yeah, Saint Brown. 3:55:43.920 --> 3:55:47.880 Kenneth Gainwell put a two pilo to usc those to 3:55:47.960 --> 3:55:50.600 be the top five available. I don't think melofon Wu 3:55:50.680 --> 3:55:53.560 should still be available. But again, sometimes you look at 3:55:53.600 --> 3:55:57.680 a guy and it's like that height plus weight, like 3:55:57.840 --> 3:56:01.480 the transitions aren't pert? Really doesn't? That's sarily. Look, you 3:56:01.520 --> 3:56:04.160 would expect most corners to be twenty pounds lighter than 3:56:04.240 --> 3:56:07.400 he is playing the position that he plays. So teams 3:56:07.480 --> 3:56:09.080 may just be struggling with that a little bit. But 3:56:09.160 --> 3:56:12.680 I think he should have be gone by now. I agree, 3:56:13.000 --> 3:56:15.840 just maybe another case of he's a little bit of 3:56:15.880 --> 3:56:18.400 an outlier. Brian, Well, we might need to find out 3:56:18.480 --> 3:56:20.800 from the trainers and doctors around the league if something's 3:56:20.840 --> 3:56:23.280 physically wrong with him. Those you know, that's what we 3:56:23.400 --> 3:56:26.640 learned about Coral Mora, you know, if this kid might 3:56:26.680 --> 3:56:29.080 have something, we're dealing with. My guys, the best guys 3:56:29.120 --> 3:56:32.600 I got left. I got Molden Cox Melophon or the 3:56:32.720 --> 3:56:35.120 three the top of my top three guys. And then 3:56:35.160 --> 3:56:38.680 I got Gainwell, the the kid from Memphis. Those turn 3:56:38.760 --> 3:56:40.720 them out, yeah, and I have him like as a 3:56:40.800 --> 3:56:45.000 third round guy. And and then our USC defensive tackle. 3:56:45.680 --> 3:56:49.360 I'm surprised that Dane mentioned is too that Jordan the 3:56:49.480 --> 3:56:52.720 tied end from Miami hasn't gone yet either, as opposed 3:56:52.720 --> 3:56:54.200 to that's a that's a guy that's a down the 3:56:54.280 --> 3:56:57.760 field player. So we'll see. That's the great thing about it. 3:56:57.800 --> 3:57:01.240 I mean, I again, it's kind of holding my board. 3:57:01.240 --> 3:57:03.600 It's it's holding how I thought it might hold. But 3:57:04.200 --> 3:57:06.280 there's still some guys that man that I have a 3:57:06.360 --> 3:57:08.440 little bit higher than maybe that some of these teams do, 3:57:08.560 --> 3:57:10.680 and I'm you know, I'm wondering why they're still there. 3:57:10.760 --> 3:57:16.000 Are Darius Washington, Elijah Molden, Marvin Wilson, Baron Browning, upon Wu. 3:57:16.360 --> 3:57:19.320 We're gonna talk about a couple more of those players 3:57:19.400 --> 3:57:21.680 after we come back from our final break. We're heading 3:57:21.680 --> 3:57:24.600 into our number four of our coverage here on one 3:57:24.680 --> 3:57:27.600 O five three The Fan and Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 3:57:31.040 --> 3:57:33.360 Staying on the Internet side of things, I keep hearing 3:57:33.440 --> 3:57:38.560 Marvin Wilson, and I know Dane wasn't super high on them. Brian, Jeff, 3:57:38.600 --> 3:57:40.280 you guys were high. Dave, I don't know really know 3:57:40.360 --> 3:57:42.320 where you stand in terms of Marvin Wilson. I'm just 3:57:42.520 --> 3:57:45.240 Jeff keeps saying, like watching him from two years ago, 3:57:45.320 --> 3:57:47.480 I'm like two years as an eternity in football. Long, 3:57:47.720 --> 3:57:50.200 here's the crap out of me. Edge rusher Patrick Jones 3:57:50.280 --> 3:57:54.240 to my to Minnesota. I know he changed schemes. I 3:57:54.360 --> 3:57:56.720 just well, I just I guess what throws me off 3:57:57.240 --> 3:58:01.080 is like Penasol at nineteen years old was button college football, 3:58:01.080 --> 3:58:02.560 and then he sat down for a year and everybody 3:58:02.720 --> 3:58:04.840 was like top ten pick and Marvin Wilson stepped in 3:58:04.840 --> 3:58:07.240 as a freshman dominated college football, did it again as 3:58:07.280 --> 3:58:10.280 a sophomore, and then as a junior was okay, And 3:58:10.400 --> 3:58:13.760 the NFL is like, yeah, huh, life's not fair, man. 3:58:13.840 --> 3:58:15.960 They should have opted out. That's what he should have done. 3:58:16.120 --> 3:58:18.440 You might be right, you might be instead of playing 3:58:18.680 --> 3:58:20.880 end on a three man line with a Tormaniscus, maybe 3:58:20.880 --> 3:58:23.000 you should have shut it down and get picked two rounds. 3:58:23.080 --> 3:58:27.040 Hire he selfish pays off sometimes. Wait wait, people who 3:58:27.120 --> 3:58:29.320 are how guys who opted out aren't selfish? I want 3:58:29.360 --> 3:58:32.040 to be clear about that. I'm just joking. Dane. How 3:58:32.160 --> 3:58:37.520 if he opted out, where would he be though? Second round? Dane? Uh? Yeah, 3:58:37.560 --> 3:58:39.560 I mean I grated him as kind of a yeah 3:58:39.760 --> 3:58:44.760 day two player, second third round. Is there off the 3:58:44.960 --> 3:58:48.640 field stuff like is there coaching questions? Because I don't 3:58:48.680 --> 3:58:51.520 understand how a defensive tackle who in the NFL role 3:58:51.520 --> 3:58:53.440 he's gonna have for two years in a row, is 3:58:53.560 --> 3:58:55.720 and is really good in college football and then just 3:58:56.320 --> 3:58:58.560 disappears off the map. Yeah. I think some of the 3:58:58.640 --> 3:59:01.200 coaches were not happy with how uh you know, he 3:59:01.280 --> 3:59:03.080 worked back from some of the injuries that he had, 3:59:03.480 --> 3:59:05.960 but nothing that would I think would take him off 3:59:06.000 --> 3:59:07.760 boards at least that that I that I know of, 3:59:09.480 --> 3:59:16.160 got the Browns making pick Miles Garrett. What yep, I'm like, 3:59:16.240 --> 3:59:20.800 he's not eligible. That's a bad pick. Pick another one. 3:59:21.320 --> 3:59:24.920 He's already different named Miles Garrett. Like he looks like 3:59:24.960 --> 3:59:29.280 he's wearing padding. Yeah, but he's definitely sleeves. I'm surprised 3:59:29.440 --> 3:59:32.600 that Patrick Jones went before Richard Weaver. Yeah, me too, 3:59:32.720 --> 3:59:41.960 I'm the same team. Yep. I'm having a lot lot though. Yes, yes, 3:59:42.520 --> 3:59:44.280 draft him. I don't care. I don't care that you 3:59:44.360 --> 3:59:47.640 just drafted two linemen. It's Dave's guy versus Jeff's guy. 3:59:47.720 --> 3:59:52.280 It's Tommy toegy I versus our Darius Washington. That's okay. 3:59:52.360 --> 3:59:55.360 Typically that's not fair when we do this, like when 3:59:55.440 --> 3:59:57.920 we fixate on a guy, they're still there two hours 3:59:57.960 --> 4:00:00.520 into tomorrow. So Anthony Schwartz my pick for the Cowboys 4:00:00.560 --> 4:00:07.960 at Oh, no, bad receiver that runs fast. I hate 4:00:08.000 --> 4:00:10.880 that he's gone. Oh I'm so sad that the Cowboys 4:00:11.000 --> 4:00:13.320 can't make that pick anymore awful people. So do I 4:00:13.360 --> 4:00:17.320 get another guess? Yeah, he can't. You do guesses, Miner 4:00:17.400 --> 4:00:19.360 just hopes and you and if you guys know my 4:00:19.480 --> 4:00:22.280 track record, the guy that I want the Cowboys picking 4:00:22.360 --> 4:00:24.960 the sixth, So get ready to mark. I'm gonna say, 4:00:25.000 --> 4:00:28.480 Marvin Wilson, That's why I said what I said, because 4:00:28.600 --> 4:00:32.000 Xavier Woods and Anthony Brown set the standard. Yeah, I 4:00:32.120 --> 4:00:34.840 picked six rounders for the Cowboys, calling for him three 4:00:34.960 --> 4:00:39.360 rounds early. Anthony Schwartz, though, Dane, tell me about I 4:00:39.440 --> 4:00:43.360 mean four two five forty four two five twenty yards shuttle. 4:00:43.400 --> 4:00:46.240 I mean, I mean he's light, he's small, but my goodness, 4:00:46.280 --> 4:00:48.000 is a special, special speed and he's one of the 4:00:48.080 --> 4:00:52.720 fastest human beings in this country's flat out. Um. I 4:00:52.880 --> 4:00:55.800 think that you just worry about him as a football player. 4:00:55.800 --> 4:00:57.760 I mean he had more rushing touchdowns in college than 4:00:58.120 --> 4:01:00.840 receiving touchdowns as a wide receiver. Not ideal for a 4:01:00.880 --> 4:01:04.000 wide receiver. So you know, there's a lot to like it, 4:01:04.120 --> 4:01:05.800 But you know how much of that is the Auburn offense. 4:01:05.880 --> 4:01:08.040 How much of that is just the lack of development. 4:01:08.480 --> 4:01:11.920 He is a speedy player who needs to develop as 4:01:11.960 --> 4:01:14.600 a wide receiver, and I am eager to see him 4:01:14.640 --> 4:01:17.040 outside of that Auburn offense just to see how he 4:01:17.120 --> 4:01:19.440 can develop. And this is a pick where the Browns 4:01:19.520 --> 4:01:22.200 don't need him to be an impact performer right now, 4:01:22.560 --> 4:01:27.360 Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry, Richard Higgins, Donovan, People's Jones. They've 4:01:27.400 --> 4:01:30.280 got their receiver set for this year, but the twenty 4:01:30.360 --> 4:01:32.880 twenty two wide receiver depth chart, Beckham might not be 4:01:33.000 --> 4:01:34.680 on it, Jarvis Landry might not be on it. This 4:01:34.840 --> 4:01:37.280 is a pick for the twenty twenty two season for 4:01:37.360 --> 4:01:39.600 the Browns, which is just kind of crazy that they're 4:01:39.600 --> 4:01:42.560 in this position where they can do that. They got 4:01:42.600 --> 4:01:44.520 a good roster include they do, and then they can 4:01:44.560 --> 4:01:48.120 have that luxury yeah, where they're they're planning forward. So 4:01:48.320 --> 4:01:50.440 I don't even want to. I guess I can say 4:01:50.520 --> 4:01:53.640 this since it comes from our boss, But I just 4:01:53.760 --> 4:01:57.080 got a text that Nick Eatman said sources told him 4:01:57.320 --> 4:01:59.920 that they were going to select Anthony Schwartz at ninety nine. 4:02:00.240 --> 4:02:03.560 He absolutely was in consideration. Dang it, I was gonna 4:02:03.560 --> 4:02:07.120 be right. That would have been fun. So Anthony Schwartz 4:02:07.760 --> 4:02:12.400 to land and Monty Rice to Tennessee brings us up 4:02:12.400 --> 4:02:14.360 to speed to number ninety three. As we are back 4:02:14.400 --> 4:02:16.960 on the radio side of things, into our number four 4:02:17.040 --> 4:02:19.320 past the ten o'clock hour Central time here on one 4:02:19.360 --> 4:02:21.440 oh five three, The Fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 4:02:21.760 --> 4:02:24.880 Jeff cavitall the great Brian brought us the great Dame Brugler, 4:02:25.200 --> 4:02:29.560 Mister David Helmett, I'm Kyle Yeoman's thank you, thank you 4:02:29.640 --> 4:02:31.960 for leaving great off of that. I don't wow. Well, 4:02:32.160 --> 4:02:34.400 if I was, I would have to change it up. 4:02:34.400 --> 4:02:36.240 I would have to say great around the table. All 4:02:36.280 --> 4:02:37.840 of you guys are great. I didn't know. I'm just 4:02:37.880 --> 4:02:40.600 trying to get invited. I'm definitely not great. It's fine, 4:02:40.800 --> 4:02:43.960 that's okay, Hey, that's I might be very wrong on him. 4:02:44.000 --> 4:02:48.880 We'll say, who's that? Malcolm Keuts the Buffalo. Buffalo soon 4:02:48.920 --> 4:02:52.880 already forgot who was I'm sorry. It was like trying 4:02:52.920 --> 4:02:56.080 to find Monty Rice here. Yeah, money Rice out of Georgia. 4:02:56.160 --> 4:02:58.280 What did you guys guys think about him? He was 4:02:58.280 --> 4:03:00.360 a little bit further down the list of line backers, 4:03:00.440 --> 4:03:02.040 but still a good one. I'll tell you what. One 4:03:02.080 --> 4:03:04.080 of the most entertaining plays of the college football season. 4:03:04.080 --> 4:03:06.520 I'm trying to remember which Burner wide receiver I was 4:03:06.560 --> 4:03:08.640 watching Monty Rice try to cover all the way down 4:03:08.680 --> 4:03:10.920 the field on a post route. I think it was Waddle. 4:03:11.000 --> 4:03:13.960 It was either Waddle or Smith against Alaman. Yeah, and 4:03:14.000 --> 4:03:16.360 I was like, what happened on our Georgia defense? That 4:03:16.480 --> 4:03:21.520 this is Monty Rice's job. I mean he was running 4:03:21.560 --> 4:03:24.560 though he was moving. Wow, I did not realize he 4:03:24.640 --> 4:03:27.160 was over six foot three. Is that an accurate height, Dane? 4:03:27.360 --> 4:03:30.600 I think so? Yeah? Okay, um okay, I thought he 4:03:30.680 --> 4:03:33.680 was shorter than that. Apologies, but I thought he was No, 4:03:34.000 --> 4:03:37.560 you are right, Yeah, I thought six three. Okay, so 4:03:37.680 --> 4:03:39.800 that type. I'm like, holy cow, he's a lot taller 4:03:39.880 --> 4:03:41.480 than the guy I thought I scouted. I was watching 4:03:41.520 --> 4:03:46.320 the wrong player, but I just I thought maybe fourth 4:03:46.440 --> 4:03:48.840 round and we're getting real close to the fourth round 4:03:49.240 --> 4:03:51.800 where there wasn't a lot about his game that really 4:03:51.920 --> 4:03:58.520 jumped out at me. But he was solid And Dane, 4:03:58.640 --> 4:04:01.120 is there anything money Rice to the jumps off the 4:04:01.200 --> 4:04:04.520 tape to you? He could get through trash. Yeah, he's 4:04:04.520 --> 4:04:07.120 a freight train. Yeah he's gonna, he's gonna. There's there's 4:04:07.120 --> 4:04:09.000 a couple of times where he got bounced around a 4:04:09.040 --> 4:04:11.600 little bit, but he could get to the trash. And yeah, 4:04:11.640 --> 4:04:14.240 he's kind of one those he's really thick. I mean, 4:04:14.320 --> 4:04:17.640 he's a stout body type in that. But they play 4:04:17.680 --> 4:04:19.560 in that rotating system. They got a lot of great 4:04:19.600 --> 4:04:21.960 players there at Georgia, so he just you know, he 4:04:22.240 --> 4:04:24.480 kind of comes and he comes out and but I 4:04:24.640 --> 4:04:27.480 was surprised he wasn't in on more tackles, you know. 4:04:27.720 --> 4:04:30.360 I mean, I think he has ability, but you just 4:04:30.440 --> 4:04:32.800 didn't always see him making every single tackle. I know 4:04:32.840 --> 4:04:35.480 we're watching highlights right now of him doing that, but 4:04:36.080 --> 4:04:39.800 I was, I was. I really respected his toughness, but 4:04:39.920 --> 4:04:42.040 I kind of thought there was more things that they 4:04:42.080 --> 4:04:44.680 could have probably done to him. But I just didn't 4:04:44.680 --> 4:04:47.520 see the burst wide as I did straight ahead when 4:04:47.560 --> 4:04:49.400 he wanted to go straight ahead. There was a burst 4:04:49.680 --> 4:04:51.520 when he had to get to the outside. Though. It's 4:04:51.880 --> 4:04:53.640 it was a little bit of an iffy thing for him. 4:04:55.800 --> 4:05:00.720 Yeah he's uh coverage nah, but as a downhill player, 4:05:00.800 --> 4:05:04.400 as a banger, that that mentality, that's what he brings. 4:05:04.800 --> 4:05:06.840 So a little surprise he went off the board top 4:05:06.920 --> 4:05:10.440 one hundred. But he's a solid player. So what do 4:05:10.520 --> 4:05:13.040 you think here for the Cowboys at ninety nine, I mean, 4:05:13.160 --> 4:05:20.440 Bill's Ravens, Bucks, Patriots, Charger Saints, Cowboys, Saint Brown. He's 4:05:20.520 --> 4:05:23.880 saying they're making bad pick Saint Brown. He's taking they're 4:05:24.000 --> 4:05:27.800 making bad big Obviously, I don't obviously at the end 4:05:27.880 --> 4:05:32.640 of the day. Uh my Stephen gen ptation there. Uh 4:05:33.880 --> 4:05:36.200 you know, I'm looking at my third round guys, and 4:05:36.760 --> 4:05:39.000 nobody wants to take him in the third round. So 4:05:39.240 --> 4:05:41.360 I mean, I you'll find out on your way home 4:05:41.680 --> 4:05:44.240 some of these guys. I wonder about, guys like Brown, 4:05:44.560 --> 4:05:48.920 Browning and Cox and Perkins and Gaywell and Carter I mean, 4:05:49.080 --> 4:05:52.640 and Trey Smith that Jordan I'm what Tyler Wallace, I'm 4:05:52.640 --> 4:05:55.920 wondering about these guys, I really really am so I 4:05:56.040 --> 4:05:59.760 wonder about Elijah Molden. The most said about him too, Yeah, 4:06:01.800 --> 4:06:06.120 Jamara Johnson Rochelle from Quinn Miners, Central Arkansas. Right, Yeah, 4:06:06.160 --> 4:06:08.200 I mean he's in this late third round, early fourth 4:06:08.320 --> 4:06:12.000 rowne range. Sure. I like him a lot, che the guy, 4:06:12.320 --> 4:06:15.200 I guess. The only guys that I'm like, really perplexed 4:06:15.240 --> 4:06:17.320 about and wondering are we going to hear something medical? 4:06:17.360 --> 4:06:20.200 Are we just gonna hear their names soon? Are Elijah 4:06:20.280 --> 4:06:23.760 Molden if you had to, Melafon Wu and Ronnie Perkins, 4:06:24.000 --> 4:06:27.600 the Oklahoma pass rusht Miners in there too. I mean, 4:06:27.840 --> 4:06:30.240 I know D three, but he was so dominant the 4:06:30.320 --> 4:06:31.800 senior blow. I just I thought he'd be off the 4:06:31.840 --> 4:06:35.240 board by now. He was so impressive at the Senior Bowl. 4:06:35.320 --> 4:06:37.680 I'm a little surprised by Ji brol Cox as well. Yeah, 4:06:37.920 --> 4:06:40.160 that's that's a little surprising. That is get ready to 4:06:40.200 --> 4:06:44.680 bills or him here. And Browning isn't picked either, isn't that? Yeah? 4:06:44.720 --> 4:06:48.080 I guess that is a Browning. He's a physical freak. 4:06:48.320 --> 4:06:51.680 But just the Spencer Brown tackle out of Iowa or 4:06:51.800 --> 4:06:56.280 Northern Ioway. Excuse me for buffalo here another tackle? Didn't 4:06:56.320 --> 4:06:58.240 they take one of the first? Maybe not? No, they 4:06:58.320 --> 4:07:04.280 did edge. Yeah, and Spencer Brown's interesting because he's so raw. 4:07:04.720 --> 4:07:06.880 But you think of where he could be in two 4:07:06.920 --> 4:07:09.400 to three years, and it's really a two to three 4:07:09.480 --> 4:07:12.640 year pick. He's not going to help you much this season. Uh, 4:07:13.360 --> 4:07:16.240 tight end, defensive lineman eight man football in high school. 4:07:17.040 --> 4:07:19.280 Played pretty well at right tackle. But he's still learning 4:07:20.280 --> 4:07:22.920 his frame, still understanding, you know, how to sink, how 4:07:23.000 --> 4:07:27.640 to play with an anchor, the biomechanics of his body type. 4:07:27.720 --> 4:07:29.840 Still still trying to figure that out. So he needs 4:07:29.840 --> 4:07:32.640 a lot of coaching before he's ready for NFL snaps. 4:07:32.720 --> 4:07:34.840 But you know here in the third round, you know 4:07:34.960 --> 4:07:38.400 there's it's an upside pick. It's this late in the third, 4:07:38.520 --> 4:07:41.360 especially six to five and six six. I feel like 4:07:41.400 --> 4:07:43.480 her heights. He'll see a lot of offensive tackle. How 4:07:43.480 --> 4:07:46.520 often do you see six eight? Not often? All right? Well, 4:07:46.520 --> 4:07:49.200 along with those testing covers two four nine two in 4:07:49.240 --> 4:07:51.840 the forty. Yeah, it's not just six eight, Jeff, he's 4:07:51.880 --> 4:07:54.560 six eight and a half. Well, six eight in a quarters, 4:07:56.400 --> 4:07:59.840 I'm going by senior bowl. Oh okay, sorry, they're rulers 4:07:59.840 --> 4:08:02.680 are broken, are they? Yeah? They're using yard sticks and 4:08:02.720 --> 4:08:04.600 then they just flip it over and then flip it over. 4:08:04.680 --> 4:08:08.120 And it's not exactly been putting their heels to get 4:08:08.160 --> 4:08:11.120 the one next to the other. Been that way in 4:08:11.320 --> 4:08:14.720 more times than I want to count. It's not whoever's 4:08:14.760 --> 4:08:17.800 measuring the arms missed that up a bunch this summer spraying. 4:08:17.880 --> 4:08:20.040 Excuse me, that would be great if it's just at 4:08:20.040 --> 4:08:24.600 a bounce house. No, Hey, there was a tailgating canopy, 4:08:24.800 --> 4:08:26.280 you know the kind that you put out guys like 4:08:26.360 --> 4:08:28.480 the grounds crew, guys sitting up here like they're waiting 4:08:28.520 --> 4:08:32.360 to go into a game. We know the little over there, 4:08:32.520 --> 4:08:34.560 you know the little tents that they that you get 4:08:34.640 --> 4:08:36.880 for like tailgating in the parking lot. Yeah, there was 4:08:36.960 --> 4:08:38.560 one in the end zone. If there's one of those 4:08:38.600 --> 4:08:41.040 in the end zone, I don't I'm not interested. It's 4:08:41.120 --> 4:08:43.360 right there, it's right there, and they're going, I'm not interesting. 4:08:43.440 --> 4:08:45.400 This is not normally when we lose it on the 4:08:45.480 --> 4:08:48.000 draft broadcast, but I think Brian's lost it and it's 4:08:48.040 --> 4:08:50.960 getting contagious, so we're gonna have it. Lost it. I'm 4:08:51.000 --> 4:08:55.280 just fast. It's a good player. Come on, he's he's 4:08:55.320 --> 4:08:57.760 a fine player. He sounds like what about DIGGI zoo though. 4:08:58.000 --> 4:08:59.880 I'm just saying that was the one that we liked 4:09:00.080 --> 4:09:07.920 the most. Everybody, Okay, there was there was a right now. 4:09:07.960 --> 4:09:11.840 I have taken it personally because I see, you guys 4:09:11.960 --> 4:09:14.160 know that there are better players on that board right now, 4:09:14.280 --> 4:09:17.760 right when he was taken. Yeah, we all do, okay. 4:09:17.840 --> 4:09:19.200 I just want to make sure that I'm not the 4:09:19.280 --> 4:09:20.720 only fool in it. That was the point I was 4:09:20.760 --> 4:09:22.600 trying to make when we were on the internet and 4:09:22.800 --> 4:09:26.520 not just the radio. Is it. It seems like they're 4:09:26.600 --> 4:09:29.720 going for high floor guys so that they can contribute 4:09:29.720 --> 4:09:31.960 as quickly as possible, which I'm not saying that's the 4:09:32.080 --> 4:09:34.160 right thing to do, but that's what they're doing, and 4:09:35.120 --> 4:09:37.640 is it the wrong thing to do? Made it? I 4:09:37.720 --> 4:09:41.600 think it. I don't know. It depends yeah, and you 4:09:41.680 --> 4:09:43.240 absolutely are and I don't think there's a way to 4:09:43.280 --> 4:09:45.880 answer it. But the point is the offense is going 4:09:45.920 --> 4:09:48.000 to carry this thing to where you want to go, 4:09:48.560 --> 4:09:50.240 and they're just it seems like they're just trying to 4:09:50.280 --> 4:09:52.440 fill the defense with guys that can play right now. 4:09:52.760 --> 4:09:54.720 And Stephen Jones alluded to that the other day. He 4:09:54.840 --> 4:09:57.520 was like, we need cheap players who can play, like 4:09:57.640 --> 4:10:00.800 we signed all of our big contract. That doesn't mean 4:10:00.880 --> 4:10:04.160 you can't necessarily draft good players. I'm aware that's and 4:10:04.280 --> 4:10:06.400 that's what makes an interesting to say that to Osa 4:10:06.680 --> 4:10:13.120 and Gholston's face. I'm just saying I would be happy, Yeah, yeah, 4:10:13.200 --> 4:10:15.320 I hope they turn in to be really good player. 4:10:15.400 --> 4:10:17.280 It is, I mean, and that's that's part of the draft, 4:10:17.400 --> 4:10:20.320 is ceiling versus floor. Like I would have absolutely all day, 4:10:20.360 --> 4:10:24.800 every day, taken Oklahoma's rusher Ronnie Perkins over Gholston or 4:10:24.840 --> 4:10:28.240 a diggi Zuowa, because I think you've got better tools 4:10:28.240 --> 4:10:31.360 and traits there for a pass rusher. But then he 4:10:31.800 --> 4:10:34.840 as an undersized edge guy, didn't test as a great athlete, 4:10:34.880 --> 4:10:36.840 and so it's like you go back and forth on 4:10:36.960 --> 4:10:39.800 all these different things and just figure out which one 4:10:39.840 --> 4:10:42.800 to pick. I'm glad that guys that weren't at the 4:10:43.000 --> 4:10:45.920 top of my board that they picked were players I like, 4:10:46.560 --> 4:10:49.160 because that's fair. At least they have positive notes and 4:10:49.200 --> 4:10:51.600 I'm like, Okay, that's that's that's a player. They gave 4:10:51.640 --> 4:10:54.280 you a Cavanaugh guy with Kelvin Joseph. Okay, yeah, and 4:10:54.320 --> 4:10:56.200 they're gonna give me another one. We're gonna get Marvin 4:10:56.280 --> 4:11:02.160 or or Darius. At one point prior tomorrow they made 4:11:02.200 --> 4:11:06.080 that Yeah, yeah, giant. Yeah. This guy's a maller. I mean, 4:11:06.240 --> 4:11:07.920 he was a lot. He was actually kind of fun 4:11:08.000 --> 4:11:11.240 to watch, just beat people up going to Baltimore. By 4:11:11.280 --> 4:11:13.800 the of course he's going to Baltimore. It's one of 4:11:13.800 --> 4:11:17.240 those guys. Look at it's Kansas City next. Who's the 4:11:17.320 --> 4:11:19.840 next best player on the board. Let's take care cities 4:11:19.840 --> 4:11:21.760 a little bit further down. Okay, should we take an 4:11:21.760 --> 4:11:24.360 early break here to beat the Cowboys pick at ninety nine. 4:11:24.800 --> 4:11:26.960 It's probably a good idea. We gotta wait till sixteen 4:11:27.000 --> 4:11:28.480 to take it. Yeah, let's ahead and take a break. 4:11:29.120 --> 4:11:31.960 Stepping aside you're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL 4:11:32.080 --> 4:11:33.800 Draft on one of five three the Fan in Dallas 4:11:33.840 --> 4:11:38.800 Cowboys dot Com. So the Buccaneers now on the clock 4:11:38.840 --> 4:11:42.880 at ninety five after the Ravens took Being Cleveland out 4:11:42.960 --> 4:11:46.400 of Georgia. Brian, you really like Being Cleveland Dane? How 4:11:46.440 --> 4:11:49.160 do you feel about it? I do like him. I 4:11:49.240 --> 4:11:53.760 mean he has such a uh, you know, impressive body type. 4:11:54.360 --> 4:11:57.080 Just how I mean, he's three large, three hundred forty 4:11:57.120 --> 4:11:59.800 pounds and he's not overweight at all like that, just 4:12:00.480 --> 4:12:02.880 really really impressive. They call him Big Country for a reason. 4:12:05.160 --> 4:12:07.080 I think he's a guard only. I don't think he 4:12:07.160 --> 4:12:11.120 gives you much versatility there. And you know, I think 4:12:11.360 --> 4:12:14.040 there's some there have been some, you know, questions about 4:12:14.720 --> 4:12:16.760 does he love fishing more in football that type of thing. 4:12:16.840 --> 4:12:20.360 Here we go, there we go. But besides that, I mean, 4:12:20.400 --> 4:12:23.400 he is a he's a really quality player who you know, 4:12:24.040 --> 4:12:26.360 you look at the Ravens in their offensive line, they 4:12:26.400 --> 4:12:29.960 could use some help at left guard, and I think 4:12:29.960 --> 4:12:31.680 he's gonna give it to him, all right, I mean, 4:12:31.800 --> 4:12:34.080 if you're asking him. And I love it in Baltimore 4:12:34.080 --> 4:12:36.640 because in Baltimore it's like pass, protect, and tee off 4:12:36.720 --> 4:12:38.920 in the run game, right, Like that works for him 4:12:40.040 --> 4:12:41.800 if you're not asking him to do a lot of 4:12:42.800 --> 4:12:46.000 pull in and things that are gonna require athleticism. You're 4:12:46.040 --> 4:12:48.400 just like, hey, big country, go be a big country 4:12:48.880 --> 4:12:53.920 that works. Hulk, go smash so incept when we don't 4:12:53.960 --> 4:12:56.280 want to smash. Try to keep it under control with 4:12:56.360 --> 4:12:59.600 your emotions, Hulk. Robert Hanzi out of Notre Dame. The 4:12:59.640 --> 4:13:02.680 offense of tackle goes to Tampa Bay Dane. I want 4:13:02.680 --> 4:13:04.960 a big board check here with the Cowboys coming up. 4:13:05.560 --> 4:13:07.760 No best player available hasn't been the pick so far, 4:13:08.200 --> 4:13:16.720 but they're four selections away done. I'm gonna I hate oh, 4:13:16.800 --> 4:13:19.160 I hate to say this for it, I kind of 4:13:19.200 --> 4:13:21.120 agree with Brian just in the sense of, like, I'm 4:13:21.160 --> 4:13:23.240 not as mad about it as Brian is, but I 4:13:23.360 --> 4:13:26.840 feel completely lost, Like I don't know what to expect. 4:13:27.160 --> 4:13:29.680 I don't know what they're gonna do. We gotta mean 4:13:29.720 --> 4:13:31.280 they're doing whatever the hell they want to do. We 4:13:31.320 --> 4:13:33.640 still have some offensive linemen out here that could be 4:13:33.720 --> 4:13:37.600 quality players. James Hudson, de'ante Smith. Uh, those are certainly 4:13:37.640 --> 4:13:42.320 possibilities there. It's okay, let's look at my top ten available, 4:13:42.560 --> 4:13:45.240 Elijah Molden. Something's wrong there, either that or they don't 4:13:45.280 --> 4:13:47.680 want a short guy. Quinn Miners. Yeah, but the whole 4:13:47.760 --> 4:13:49.880 league doesn't want a short guy. I guess that's the case. 4:13:49.960 --> 4:13:52.080 I maybe there's something medical there. We'll figure that out 4:13:52.080 --> 4:13:54.760 if you ought to. Melofon wu A Mon Ross, Saint Brown, 4:13:54.960 --> 4:13:59.080 Kenneth Gainwell, Marlon tweet bloplu. I didn't say that right 4:13:59.080 --> 4:14:03.440 at all. Dante Brown, Uh, Brevin Jordan, Ronnie Perkins, Bill Cox. 4:14:03.520 --> 4:14:06.280 Those are my ten best available at this point. I'd 4:14:06.360 --> 4:14:08.320 pretty safe to say they're not going Perkins just with 4:14:08.600 --> 4:14:10.320 you know. I mean maybe they could and load up 4:14:10.360 --> 4:14:14.200 on defensive line, but I doubt it. Uh, just keep 4:14:14.240 --> 4:14:17.120 coming back the offensive line, you know, get better, add depth. 4:14:17.600 --> 4:14:19.640 That's what you do when you have three third round picks, right, 4:14:19.880 --> 4:14:26.160 Hudson Smith, I like, I like Tray Smith more, Jayleen Moore, 4:14:26.320 --> 4:14:29.840 I mean yeah, I mean I don't know about the 4:14:29.920 --> 4:14:32.440 risk you guys. I watched those guys play, some guys 4:14:32.520 --> 4:14:38.720 play offensive tackle last year. I'm like, what, Okay, who Cowboys? Cowboys? Yeah? Yeah, 4:14:38.800 --> 4:14:41.000 I'm like who, what? Right? What are we doing there? 4:14:41.280 --> 4:14:43.880 And that's exactly why you you know, draft and develop. 4:14:44.320 --> 4:14:47.720 You add depth pieces that you can at least count 4:14:47.800 --> 4:14:49.560 on in the case that you do need him out there. 4:14:50.360 --> 4:14:52.200 What's going on with a monra of Saint Brown? If 4:14:52.200 --> 4:14:54.000 we're gonna look at a wide receiver here, he's the 4:14:54.080 --> 4:14:58.440 top one on my board. But yeah, yeah, that's true. 4:14:58.440 --> 4:15:01.560 I didn't even look at Tallus. The knee. I think 4:15:01.600 --> 4:15:04.640 that's the issue. There, a nagging knee issue. I think 4:15:04.680 --> 4:15:07.240 you're in the range for Saint Brown. I think watching 4:15:07.440 --> 4:15:11.120 him this past year playing outside, I think that's actually 4:15:11.320 --> 4:15:14.040 kind of discouraging maybe to some NFL teams. But when 4:15:14.080 --> 4:15:16.680 you watch him play the slot, you go, yep, that's 4:15:16.680 --> 4:15:21.680 where he goes. So if Saint Brown is good healthwise, 4:15:21.880 --> 4:15:24.520 I would imagine he won't be too far away. He's 4:15:24.560 --> 4:15:27.840 kind of the Chauncey Golston on offense. If there's nothing 4:15:27.920 --> 4:15:30.480 special about him, he just kind of does his job 4:15:30.560 --> 4:15:46.480 and it's pretty solid. Entering the final couple picks of 4:15:46.720 --> 4:15:49.400 Day two of the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, on 4:15:49.480 --> 4:15:51.840 one of five three, the fan of Dallas Cowboys dot Com, 4:15:52.080 --> 4:15:54.840 Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Kavan O'Brien brought us we've got Dan 4:15:54.880 --> 4:15:58.040 Brugler and David Hellman with you. Glad you're with us, 4:15:58.120 --> 4:16:01.560 and the Patriots are on the at the moment. Following 4:16:01.600 --> 4:16:05.960 the Patriots, it'll go Chargers Saints Cowboys, as the Cowboys 4:16:05.960 --> 4:16:10.400 will make their fifth selection of the NFL Draft. Will 4:16:10.480 --> 4:16:13.680 run down what they've got already Michael Parsons, linebacker out 4:16:13.720 --> 4:16:16.640 of Penn State, Kelvin Joseph the corner out of Kentucky, 4:16:17.000 --> 4:16:20.880 followed by osa Odigi Zuwa defensive tackle from UCLA, and 4:16:21.000 --> 4:16:25.520 Chauncey Gholston edge from Iowa. Jeff biggest need for the 4:16:25.600 --> 4:16:29.640 Cowboys heading into this pick is goie. I like what 4:16:29.760 --> 4:16:33.760 everybody's saying about the offensive line, but I just want 4:16:33.800 --> 4:16:35.560 to guard or a tackle. Well, I wonder how the 4:16:35.720 --> 4:16:39.880 staff feels about those guys like Terrence Steele and Brandon Knight. 4:16:40.120 --> 4:16:43.240 And you brought in a swing tackle from Washington, So 4:16:43.520 --> 4:16:46.880 I actually think you can survive if you don't do 4:16:47.000 --> 4:16:48.920 anything on the offensive line if it's not the best 4:16:48.960 --> 4:16:52.720 player available. So it makes sense to pick one. But 4:16:52.920 --> 4:16:55.040 you've already gonna have one of the Connors as a 4:16:55.120 --> 4:16:58.520 backup guard, and you do have Steel Night. And give 4:16:58.600 --> 4:17:02.960 me the name of the swing tackle that they signed. Yeah, 4:17:03.240 --> 4:17:06.280 like you got guys. I know it was really ugly 4:17:06.440 --> 4:17:09.840 last year when you lost everybody. So I just I 4:17:09.960 --> 4:17:11.800 wonder did they view that as a spot where you 4:17:11.840 --> 4:17:15.240 would where you don't believe that Steel or Knight has 4:17:15.400 --> 4:17:17.640 developed or is developing the way that you want, and 4:17:17.800 --> 4:17:20.720 you do want to go that direction. I don't think 4:17:20.760 --> 4:17:24.800 they need a guard when you've got Zack Martin, one 4:17:24.840 --> 4:17:27.160 of the Connors starting, and one of the Connors backing up. 4:17:27.280 --> 4:17:30.400 Although Mike mc Mike McCarthy said that he thought that 4:17:30.480 --> 4:17:33.080 they would draft a lineman during this draft, and I 4:17:33.160 --> 4:17:38.200 mean the question was about interior line, so that obviously 4:17:38.280 --> 4:17:42.400 that doesn't mean they will, but something to consider. Patriots 4:17:42.440 --> 4:17:45.920 are making their selection at the moment. New England, of course, 4:17:45.960 --> 4:17:49.920 with a couple of Alabama products early on with Mac Jones, 4:17:50.080 --> 4:17:52.600 who did they take in the second round? Moore? That 4:17:52.680 --> 4:17:55.960 was the other Alabama product. They've had a pretty solid 4:17:56.040 --> 4:17:59.040 draft so far. Do you think the Cowboys took two 4:17:59.120 --> 4:18:01.440 big swings in the first two rounds and they were like, man, 4:18:01.480 --> 4:18:03.320 these are high upside. If this hits, we're gonna be 4:18:03.360 --> 4:18:05.000 in such good shape. And then they got to the third, 4:18:05.080 --> 4:18:07.400 the guys, I feel we scale it back a little bit, 4:18:07.480 --> 4:18:11.400 get a little safe here. Literally, Yeah, that's the impressional 4:18:11.560 --> 4:18:14.760 good player. Ronnie Perkins, edge rusher out of Oklahoma goes 4:18:14.800 --> 4:18:17.400 off the board at ninety six. That's a real pin 4:18:17.480 --> 4:18:20.320 throw for Jeff Kavanaugh. Yeah, one of my favorite plays 4:18:20.360 --> 4:18:22.240 of watching tape. And I don't want to pretend that 4:18:22.320 --> 4:18:24.680 like he dominated him all day, but one of my 4:18:24.760 --> 4:18:28.280 favorite plays is Tevin Jenkins, the Oklahoma state right tackle 4:18:28.600 --> 4:18:31.800 who just bullies everybody and he got long armed and 4:18:32.080 --> 4:18:37.840 just thrown by Ronnie Perkins. So he's interesting because on tape, 4:18:38.080 --> 4:18:40.640 I guess I thought he would have tested a little 4:18:40.720 --> 4:18:44.680 better than he did athletically, so he's not a really 4:18:44.760 --> 4:18:49.760 a full size edge and the athletic testing is going 4:18:49.840 --> 4:18:51.680 to tell you that he's not a great change of 4:18:51.760 --> 4:18:54.640 direction guy and he's a four seven forty. But it 4:18:54.760 --> 4:18:57.840 works on the field. I mean he affects the pocket, 4:18:57.960 --> 4:19:01.600 he makes plays in the backfield. I like Ronnie Perkins 4:19:01.640 --> 4:19:06.280 a lot. And do you think the athletic testing moved 4:19:06.360 --> 4:19:09.560 him down at all, Brian or Dane or do you 4:19:09.640 --> 4:19:11.520 think this is where he was going to go? I 4:19:11.640 --> 4:19:16.360 think there's some questions about him character wise because his 4:19:16.480 --> 4:19:19.320 six games suspension. He had a six game suspension part 4:19:19.320 --> 4:19:23.120 of it. And we think that for marijuana. So marijuana, 4:19:23.440 --> 4:19:25.320 I'd like to go on record that marijuana is not 4:19:25.440 --> 4:19:28.400 a character concern. Well that's but that's what Oklahoma thought 4:19:28.400 --> 4:19:33.000 it was. So, you know, coaches swear by this guy. 4:19:33.320 --> 4:19:35.200 They say he loves football. I was talking to people 4:19:35.200 --> 4:19:37.280 about him. I mean, he does everything to try and 4:19:37.360 --> 4:19:39.880 get ready to play. He does come off the ball 4:19:39.920 --> 4:19:43.120 in a hurry. I mean, there's some impressive first step quickness. 4:19:43.200 --> 4:19:45.520 I thought he might have been a little stiff, but 4:19:45.680 --> 4:19:47.760 that wasn't the case. The more I watched him, though. 4:19:47.840 --> 4:19:49.880 You see him Ben, you see him get around the edge. 4:19:50.520 --> 4:19:52.400 He could put the block in a bad position with 4:19:52.480 --> 4:19:55.400 his rush. He could work under a round blocks. He's 4:19:55.440 --> 4:19:58.360 gonna dip, he's gonna get low. It's impressive the way 4:19:58.400 --> 4:20:00.760 he's able to chase the ball, try get down to hurry. 4:20:00.760 --> 4:20:03.440 I really, I think there's a lot of things that 4:20:03.720 --> 4:20:06.480 are very positive about him. It. You know, I thought 4:20:06.520 --> 4:20:08.160 he could be a fit for four to three or 4:20:08.240 --> 4:20:10.640 three four. Somebody's gonna play him at defensive end, somebody's 4:20:10.640 --> 4:20:12.360 gonna play him a outside linebacker. He went to a 4:20:12.400 --> 4:20:14.240 team that they're gonna play both out of three four 4:20:14.280 --> 4:20:17.080 and four three to get ready for that. You're gonna 4:20:17.080 --> 4:20:19.840 play everywhere in England. Get ready for that. Trey McKitty 4:20:19.960 --> 4:20:23.120 from Georgia goes off the board. By the way, Oklahoma, 4:20:23.520 --> 4:20:25.640 Ronnie Perkins, how long has it been since we've seen 4:20:25.720 --> 4:20:28.960 an Oklahoma player lasting until the ninety sixth overall pick. Wow, 4:20:29.040 --> 4:20:33.480 he was the first Sooner, first Sooner off. Okay, everybody, 4:20:33.560 --> 4:20:36.080 never mind, I forgot about Kyle. That's on me. I'm Kyle. 4:20:36.280 --> 4:20:38.560 Kyle's trying to talk bad about the Sooners. That's all 4:20:38.600 --> 4:20:41.000 why this is why you don't get invited to the Crawfish. Oh, 4:20:41.000 --> 4:20:42.920 I'm sorry, it's been I thought that that was a 4:20:43.000 --> 4:20:45.600 Louisiana thing. But that's okay for a few days for 4:20:45.680 --> 4:20:47.920 the Big twelve. Yeah, got shut out of the first round, 4:20:48.000 --> 4:20:50.800 and they've got a few guys today. So what do 4:20:50.880 --> 4:20:53.320 you think about Trey McKitty. By the way, the Broncos 4:20:53.440 --> 4:20:55.920 are on the clock now after a trade with the 4:20:56.000 --> 4:20:58.400 Saints earlier in the draft at ninety eight, and then 4:20:58.440 --> 4:21:00.720 it's the Cowboys on the clock at nine. This guy's 4:21:00.720 --> 4:21:04.200 a transferred from a grad transfer from Florida State right, Yes, 4:21:04.640 --> 4:21:07.240 And I thought this best film was at Florida State. 4:21:07.640 --> 4:21:10.000 Then it was that Georgia. He was barely you he 4:21:10.080 --> 4:21:14.040 was underutilized both spots. Yeah, you know, he's a good 4:21:14.160 --> 4:21:17.040 player who was not really allowed to show it very often. 4:21:17.560 --> 4:21:20.600 Surprise he's drafted here ahead of Brevin Jordan and some 4:21:20.920 --> 4:21:22.560 some of the tight ends. But he's a good player 4:21:22.600 --> 4:21:25.720 who I think could be a better pro than college 4:21:25.760 --> 4:21:28.480 player because it's it's based on, you know, his opportunities. 4:21:28.520 --> 4:21:32.200 And he's a good blocker, a competent pass catcher. A 4:21:32.320 --> 4:21:35.240 little surprise he's going this early, but a solid player. 4:21:35.280 --> 4:21:37.240 He had a nice one handed catch in the Senior Bowl, 4:21:37.800 --> 4:21:39.880 so I remember watching that. But yeah, this is about 4:21:39.920 --> 4:21:42.360 ten feet from me. Yeah, this guy, I don't think 4:21:42.400 --> 4:21:44.440 he's I don't think he's the best route runner, but 4:21:44.520 --> 4:21:46.440 he could he could make it play up the seam 4:21:46.560 --> 4:21:48.640 or when the throws when the film a screen. They 4:21:48.680 --> 4:21:51.480 had some like delayed screens and stuff like that. I 4:21:51.520 --> 4:21:53.160 thought he was pretty good at but he can make 4:21:53.200 --> 4:21:55.400 some moves in the open field to gain some positive 4:21:55.440 --> 4:21:58.920 yards for a guy his size. Steven Jones, I think 4:21:59.000 --> 4:22:01.680 they they've made their because Steven Jones has a stokey ready, 4:22:02.280 --> 4:22:05.160 Stephen Jones is like a good job, everybody, We're done 4:22:05.200 --> 4:22:07.720 for the night, which I think that's stokey cost more 4:22:07.840 --> 4:22:11.720 over under forty bucks. I think it's what you don't think. 4:22:11.760 --> 4:22:13.960 It's just a run of the mill. We were thirty 4:22:14.040 --> 4:22:17.880 when two thousand and five it was like thirty bucks. 4:22:19.960 --> 4:22:21.880 You get the you saved the really good ones for 4:22:21.920 --> 4:22:26.320 Saturday night, right, Yeah. Yeah, I'm at oh Man at 4:22:26.400 --> 4:22:28.720 Valley Ranch back when it was a little more tightly 4:22:28.800 --> 4:22:31.800 together on Saturday night. You could smell the cigar stow 4:22:31.880 --> 4:22:34.240 coming from the war room like one hundred feet away. 4:22:36.120 --> 4:22:39.280 So the Broncos selection just around the corner here at 4:22:39.400 --> 4:22:42.720 ninety eight that the Cowboys will officially I guess they're 4:22:42.720 --> 4:22:45.080 already officially on the clock and they've already officially made 4:22:45.120 --> 4:22:47.520 their selection. And the time or the draft where what's 4:22:47.520 --> 4:22:50.200 actually happened way behind, fifteen minutes ahead of ye we're 4:22:50.280 --> 4:22:53.920 way behind. So Quinn miner go Dane all time. There 4:22:54.040 --> 4:22:56.920 you go, Dane, it was at ninety eight. That's a 4:22:57.000 --> 4:23:02.560 good player. I mean it's such a unique situation because, uh, 4:23:02.720 --> 4:23:05.400 you know, based off the nineteen film looked like a 4:23:05.520 --> 4:23:07.920 late rounder, but then he you know, has a season 4:23:08.000 --> 4:23:10.960 taken out from under him. He spends the year working 4:23:11.040 --> 4:23:14.160 with trainers, working with uh, you know, different coaches to 4:23:14.240 --> 4:23:17.240 get him in game ready. Shape goes to the Senior 4:23:17.280 --> 4:23:20.800 Bowl and just dominates a little surprise, he lasted this long, 4:23:20.960 --> 4:23:23.440 but that's to the pronco's advantage. They get a really 4:23:23.520 --> 4:23:26.800 good player. So now the Cowboys on the clock. Brian, 4:23:26.880 --> 4:23:32.080 what are you thinking here? I don't know. Seriously, we're 4:23:32.160 --> 4:23:37.240 all kind. I'm glad. I'm sad you asked me that question. Sorry, 4:23:37.720 --> 4:23:40.680 because seriously, I I don't know. I really don't. And 4:23:40.920 --> 4:23:44.920 I want to believe that I can name I can 4:23:45.080 --> 4:23:47.280 name about ten guys right now. I'd love for him 4:23:47.320 --> 4:23:48.880 to take and it won't be one. It won't be 4:23:48.960 --> 4:23:50.960 one of I just know you're right, yeah and that, 4:23:51.080 --> 4:23:52.600 and it's been that kind of week. I don't know 4:23:52.760 --> 4:23:55.160 if you guys sound like you're just I'm just kind 4:23:55.160 --> 4:23:58.680 of there too. Actually, I just, well, do we got 4:24:00.080 --> 4:24:02.560 it's it's it's to me. I just maybe it's me 4:24:02.680 --> 4:24:06.160 because I'm frustrated myself about where the players they've taken 4:24:06.280 --> 4:24:08.760 where I had them. You know, when if the last 4:24:08.800 --> 4:24:10.680 two guys I've had both guys have been in the 4:24:10.760 --> 4:24:14.120 fourth round. They were third round players. So I'm frustrated 4:24:14.160 --> 4:24:17.840 with myself for I think you've lost it. I don't know. 4:24:17.960 --> 4:24:20.040 I guess I don't even care about that. I get like, 4:24:20.440 --> 4:24:22.400 I don't care about my opinion of the players. I 4:24:22.440 --> 4:24:23.760 just want to know what they're gonna do. And to 4:24:23.840 --> 4:24:26.840 go back to Dane's point, it's all about the breadcrumbs, man, 4:24:27.200 --> 4:24:30.080 and clearly we don't have enough of them because everything 4:24:30.160 --> 4:24:33.080 they've done since they I knew I was dialed in 4:24:33.200 --> 4:24:36.080 on Kelvin Joseph and everything that's happened since then is 4:24:36.640 --> 4:24:39.720 a mystery and doesn't follow anything that I was expecting, 4:24:40.000 --> 4:24:42.640 nothing at all. And I would have never guessed Kelvin 4:24:42.760 --> 4:24:46.960 Joseph in a million years after the White Point, after 4:24:47.040 --> 4:24:50.680 the Micah Parsons pick, Okay, I would have never guessed 4:24:50.680 --> 4:24:53.520 that you would have a guy where they were. People 4:24:53.680 --> 4:24:58.280 had questions about off the field, that they would take it. Yeah, 4:24:58.400 --> 4:25:01.400 but they said that dude can cover. We're gonna take 4:25:01.480 --> 4:25:03.440 that dude. I think they really said, we need a 4:25:03.520 --> 4:25:05.800 freaking cornerback and we gotta do what we gotta do, 4:25:06.040 --> 4:25:09.880 and that dude can cover. Well, yeah, that's that's part 4:25:09.920 --> 4:25:11.520 of the two and so now when you get to 4:25:11.640 --> 4:25:13.840 this pick, it's like, all right, so they went big swing, 4:25:14.280 --> 4:25:19.400 big swing, bunt, bunt, and now what do you do. 4:25:20.360 --> 4:25:23.600 I need to hear your analogy for whatever this pick is. Okay, 4:25:23.720 --> 4:25:25.360 well it depends who it is. Yeah, And I don't 4:25:25.400 --> 4:25:28.640 want spoilers. People. People keep trying to text me picks 4:25:29.240 --> 4:25:31.080 three minutes before it happens, and I don't want to know. 4:25:31.320 --> 4:25:33.880 I want to see the pick and we'll react. Well, 4:25:33.880 --> 4:25:35.800 we are going to react to it because they're walking 4:25:35.880 --> 4:25:37.920 up to the stand right now. The final pick of 4:25:38.040 --> 4:25:40.360 Day two of the NFL Draft for the Dallas Cowboys 4:25:40.920 --> 4:25:45.160 at ninety nine. The Cowboys will select Please tell me 4:25:45.200 --> 4:25:46.680 I heard of him. Please tell me I heard of him. 4:25:47.720 --> 4:25:51.760 That's all I ask. Cornerback Nashan right out of Oregon States. 4:25:52.080 --> 4:25:57.040 Never heard of him? Come on, Dane. Wow, So Dane's stumped. 4:25:57.200 --> 4:25:59.960 That's a non combine tramp or invite. By the way, 4:26:00.600 --> 4:26:03.760 transfer from Laney College in the City College of Frisco, 4:26:03.920 --> 4:26:06.800 older brother of Last Chance You Star was genreight. This 4:26:06.960 --> 4:26:10.520 guy is really unique. I mean, uh, you don't see 4:26:10.600 --> 4:26:15.400 many six four corners, that's what he is. Y to 4:26:15.680 --> 4:26:17.720 were trying to find our Brandon Browner here. Is that 4:26:17.760 --> 4:26:20.960 what's happening? Basically? Yeah, okay, that's what he is. Can 4:26:21.080 --> 4:26:23.640 he be Brandon Browner? Because if he is, I'm on board. 4:26:24.360 --> 4:26:28.040 He's he's intriguing. Uh, he didn't. I mean, the testing 4:26:28.120 --> 4:26:31.120 numbers were just okay, weren't great. Uh, but it's just 4:26:31.280 --> 4:26:33.880 funny watching him out there because he literally towers over 4:26:33.960 --> 4:26:36.920 receivers and it's just a weird sight to see him 4:26:36.960 --> 4:26:39.520 out there because he's so tall, but he's very light 4:26:39.600 --> 4:26:43.760 footed with how he moves. Obviously, the length is outstanding 4:26:43.800 --> 4:26:47.400 and helps him be destructive. Uh. Five interceptions the last 4:26:47.440 --> 4:26:51.040 two years. So he was my thirty eighth ranked corner. 4:26:51.880 --> 4:26:54.000 I did not have a big raid on him, thy 4:26:54.040 --> 4:27:00.160 eighth ranth corner. Yeah, I let him have fun. Hey, 4:27:00.440 --> 4:27:02.800 I did one hundred and ninety players this year. I 4:27:02.920 --> 4:27:04.920 did not do this player. Okay, let me let me 4:27:05.040 --> 4:27:09.560 read you the my final three sentences from his report. Right, 4:27:09.840 --> 4:27:11.880 is not a quick twitch mover, but he stays light 4:27:11.960 --> 4:27:14.360 on his feet to slide open and run down field 4:27:14.400 --> 4:27:17.720 with receivers. He's still relatively new to the cornerback position. 4:27:17.760 --> 4:27:20.360 He's a former receiver and it shows at times. As 4:27:20.360 --> 4:27:23.840 he struggles to stay square or ahead of receivers. Overall 4:27:24.120 --> 4:27:26.760 Right is a long and lanky athlete who is still 4:27:26.840 --> 4:27:30.120 developing his instincts and technique, but his length and ball 4:27:30.160 --> 4:27:33.760 skills are interesting foundational traits for a classic press band 4:27:33.840 --> 4:27:37.320 corner prospect. And what gray did you have on him? 4:27:37.440 --> 4:27:40.480 What round did you have on him? Because I mean 4:27:41.080 --> 4:27:44.160 he's a late round type of Yeah, because I tried 4:27:44.200 --> 4:27:48.120 to study every draftable player you had. Yeah, I really did. Yeah, 4:27:48.760 --> 4:27:51.320 that's so. I mean, if we're if we're just peeling 4:27:51.360 --> 4:27:52.840 the curtain ball watched the guy to night. When to 4:27:52.880 --> 4:27:55.960 get home? I can't Hey, look, I can't kill the 4:27:56.040 --> 4:27:58.040 pick or the guy because I never heard of him. 4:27:58.120 --> 4:28:02.600 All right, I gotta watch Benjamin Saint Juice. That's the 4:28:03.280 --> 4:28:07.640 type of guy, you know, long, lanky, light act had 4:28:07.680 --> 4:28:10.480 sat Juice just like player, like if you're three hundred, 4:28:10.520 --> 4:28:14.000 you had him a like one. Yeah. Two. They just 4:28:14.040 --> 4:28:16.080 showed a highlight of him chasing a slant and he 4:28:16.160 --> 4:28:18.040 tried to tackle the guy and fell off the tackle 4:28:18.120 --> 4:28:20.000 and someone else tackled him and that was a highlight. 4:28:20.800 --> 4:28:24.920 I'm just wanting to know, I Dan Dane will always 4:28:25.000 --> 4:28:28.120 be modest, but and and Dane. Dane's not always going 4:28:28.160 --> 4:28:32.160 to be right, but he's His track record speaks for 4:28:32.200 --> 4:28:35.160 itself absolutely. So look, if this guy turns out to 4:28:35.200 --> 4:28:36.800 be a good player, I'll be very wrong because I 4:28:36.840 --> 4:28:40.360 got a seventh round grade on him. But uh I did. 4:28:40.440 --> 4:28:43.120 I did not like dislike him, you know, watching him play, 4:28:43.160 --> 4:28:45.360 I just I think he's a raw player. Uh, that's 4:28:45.360 --> 4:28:48.160 gonna take some time. So you know, if you're looking 4:28:48.200 --> 4:28:50.080 for a guy that's gonna help you right now, I 4:28:50.160 --> 4:28:52.440 don't think this guy's it. But when we look back 4:28:52.480 --> 4:28:55.600 at this pick in three years, could absolutely end up 4:28:55.640 --> 4:28:58.680 being a steel because I think there are foundational traits 4:28:58.720 --> 4:29:01.440 there that you can develop. But this is a surprise 4:29:01.480 --> 4:29:03.160 to see him as a top one hundred pick. I 4:29:03.360 --> 4:29:05.960 I admire every ounce of what you just told me 4:29:06.040 --> 4:29:07.960 because that took a lot for you to make me 4:29:08.040 --> 4:29:09.880 feel a little bit better. But you also didn't like 4:29:10.040 --> 4:29:12.080 him enough to put him ahead of thirty seven other 4:29:12.200 --> 4:29:14.240 corners in this draft. I just wanted to let you 4:29:14.360 --> 4:29:16.920 know that point, and that's that's very true. That doesn't 4:29:16.960 --> 4:29:21.640 mean that Afrey Thomas Wade you know, yeah, Hey, it's interesting. 4:29:22.320 --> 4:29:25.080 I heard a suggestion that this name could be called 4:29:25.240 --> 4:29:29.000 and full always full disclosure. I'm nothing if not honest. 4:29:29.080 --> 4:29:31.320 I don't watch six hundred players. So the first thing 4:29:31.360 --> 4:29:34.000 I did flipped open my book went down there, and 4:29:34.120 --> 4:29:36.760 I just got sadder and sadder the longer down the 4:29:36.880 --> 4:29:40.720 list that went, which I glad to admit I'm wrong, 4:29:40.760 --> 4:29:45.680 because I've made a career being wrong. But now now 4:29:45.760 --> 4:29:48.560 I'm to the point where I'm just like, okay, is 4:29:48.640 --> 4:29:51.120 this Brian's getting read? All right? And now I'm okay, 4:29:51.280 --> 4:29:53.680 I am. I'm like he led the team in interceptions 4:29:53.720 --> 4:29:57.240 both years. I mean, there are things to like about him. Um, 4:29:57.600 --> 4:30:00.160 but again, it's just it's a it's an upside pick. 4:30:00.320 --> 4:30:02.480 It's a guy that you're looking at the raw traits 4:30:02.760 --> 4:30:05.200 and you're saying, Okay, what can we mold this kid 4:30:05.240 --> 4:30:09.400 into a former wide receiver who you know, just again, 4:30:09.840 --> 4:30:12.360 rare to have a six four guy that can have 4:30:12.520 --> 4:30:17.320 the light feet and move like he can. He's he 4:30:17.440 --> 4:30:20.440 bounced around a couple of different colleges before he arrived 4:30:20.440 --> 4:30:23.480 at Oregon State. He's just really interesting that That's the 4:30:23.560 --> 4:30:25.400 best way I can kind of describe. By the way, 4:30:25.440 --> 4:30:29.680 the pick after the Cowboys Sean Right, Elijah Molden goes 4:30:29.760 --> 4:30:34.440 off the board to Tennessee, which that one kind of hurts, 4:30:34.640 --> 4:30:37.080 is it? Is it fair to say this is? This 4:30:37.240 --> 4:30:39.720 has got to just be doing. You're either your defensive 4:30:39.760 --> 4:30:43.920 coordinator or your DB's coaches solid right, you like it. 4:30:44.400 --> 4:30:47.120 It reminds me of Kavanaugh. Honestly, Kavanaugh was like our 4:30:47.200 --> 4:30:49.320 Darius Washington. I don't care how tall he is. Get 4:30:49.440 --> 4:30:52.400 him on my damn team. And I'm just imagining we 4:30:52.520 --> 4:30:54.960 do have Naean right on the phone as he is 4:30:55.000 --> 4:31:00.000 the newest pick and the newest Dallas Cowboy. Nashan. First off, congratulations, 4:31:00.240 --> 4:31:02.440 welcome to the Dallas Cowboys. What's going through your mind 4:31:02.520 --> 4:31:07.200 right now? So I don't even know. I couldn't feel 4:31:07.280 --> 4:31:12.520 my legs right now. Uh, this happy. I'm more than happy. 4:31:13.600 --> 4:31:16.520 My dad family of originally from Texas. I lost my dad, 4:31:16.600 --> 4:31:22.680 So just being able to go to Texas amazing. Congratulations man. 4:31:22.800 --> 4:31:27.440 So I'm curious, you know, we we do this months 4:31:27.480 --> 4:31:30.400 on end, and no disrespect to you, but you definitely 4:31:30.520 --> 4:31:33.040 weren't very much on our radar. I'm just curious if 4:31:33.080 --> 4:31:35.240 you've had a connection with the Cowboys who you've been 4:31:35.280 --> 4:31:39.480 talking to here, um, just what this process has been 4:31:39.560 --> 4:31:41.600 like for you as it pertains to the Dallas Cowboys. 4:31:43.400 --> 4:31:46.440 It's been amazing. I got a chance to speak with 4:31:47.320 --> 4:31:50.520 the defensive coordinator dan Quinn and the defensive back coach 4:31:51.080 --> 4:31:54.720 Alum and the talks for it, I mean they were 4:31:54.760 --> 4:31:58.520 great talks. Uh we uh kind of just connected just 4:31:58.640 --> 4:32:00.800 to do the type of person I was, and and 4:32:01.120 --> 4:32:02.880 I didn't really get to talk to my football but 4:32:03.840 --> 4:32:10.560 uh yeah, where where are you at right now? You 4:32:10.640 --> 4:32:13.720 talk about your family being a part of this or 4:32:13.880 --> 4:32:16.960 being down from Texas, rather what's the scene like and 4:32:17.040 --> 4:32:20.560 what's the celebration like for you guys right now? It's 4:32:20.600 --> 4:32:22.520 not even all my family, but the family that I 4:32:22.600 --> 4:32:26.040 do have her going crazy or home in my mom's house. 4:32:27.120 --> 4:32:32.360 Uh yeah, it's a very an Ados like we're just 4:32:32.800 --> 4:32:34.600 going crazy right now to dance and I have to 4:32:34.640 --> 4:32:38.200 actually get away to walk out there. That's great. Which 4:32:38.440 --> 4:32:41.120 and you know you mentioned dan Quinn, that's when we 4:32:41.200 --> 4:32:43.440 heard your name called. You know what I think about 4:32:43.440 --> 4:32:46.040 with dan Quinn is these you know, these tall cornerbacks 4:32:46.080 --> 4:32:48.880 and obviously you you fit that bill really well. What 4:32:50.040 --> 4:32:53.280 what um just in general? What is it about your 4:32:53.360 --> 4:32:56.120 game that that you think appealed to the Cowboys and 4:32:56.400 --> 4:32:58.600 what do you think you bring to this team? Uh 4:32:58.680 --> 4:33:03.160 stepping in here? Well yeah, so uh just I mean 4:33:03.240 --> 4:33:06.120 I'm six four, so it's rare. Uh I'm an anomaly, 4:33:06.240 --> 4:33:08.919 so uh just being able to get my hands out 4:33:08.960 --> 4:33:12.000 at the line of scrimmage. And of course, I mean 4:33:12.800 --> 4:33:14.720 you know where dan Quinn comes from. We know type 4:33:14.720 --> 4:33:17.640 of defenses he like. So uh, I just feel like 4:33:17.759 --> 4:33:21.320 I just fit perfectly in that system. So uh just 4:33:21.520 --> 4:33:25.079 a blessing to end up undercoat dan Quinn and uh 4:33:25.560 --> 4:33:28.480 a Dallas Cowboys. We're talking to de Sean Right, newest 4:33:28.560 --> 4:33:31.000 draft pick for the Dallas Cowboys here on one O 4:33:31.120 --> 4:33:33.560 five three to Fanning Dallas Cowboys dot Com. De Sean, 4:33:33.640 --> 4:33:37.080 you talk about fitting into that system. What kind of 4:33:37.120 --> 4:33:40.280 system did you specifically run during your time at Oregon 4:33:40.360 --> 4:33:42.640 State and how do you think that'll translate to the pros. 4:33:44.000 --> 4:33:46.760 We were like a multi skin defense. We ran anywhere 4:33:46.800 --> 4:33:50.719 from zero to six. So, um, just my my versatility. Uh, 4:33:51.120 --> 4:33:53.000 it's definitely going to help me being able. I played 4:33:53.000 --> 4:33:55.320 a lot of man coverage at Orgies State, so um, 4:33:56.440 --> 4:33:59.600 I mean I could do it all. So I feel 4:33:59.600 --> 4:34:01.919 like I anywhere, but Dallas is just a perfect fit. 4:34:03.960 --> 4:34:07.000 I've been talking, go for it. Continue. Sorry, didn't mean 4:34:07.040 --> 4:34:10.440 to cotch you off there. Yeah, Like for some reason, 4:34:10.520 --> 4:34:12.079 I had a gut feeling that I was gonna get 4:34:12.120 --> 4:34:16.920 that call from Dallas. It happened. I just on it 4:34:17.040 --> 4:34:20.640 just felt right, The situation felt right. The coach talking 4:34:20.720 --> 4:34:23.800 have with coach Quinn was great. So it's just so right. 4:34:24.160 --> 4:34:28.720 When did you have that conversation with coach Quinn? Immediately 4:34:28.800 --> 4:34:32.640 after my pro day? Talked to him maybe for about 4:34:32.680 --> 4:34:35.800 fifteen twenty minutes. We just kind of connected on the 4:34:35.880 --> 4:34:39.239 personal level. He talked about football just a little bit, 4:34:39.280 --> 4:34:43.680 but more so just the type of kid I was. Well, Naean, 4:34:43.800 --> 4:34:47.560 congratulations on the afternoon and into the evening here. We 4:34:47.680 --> 4:34:49.160 are excited to have you as a part of the 4:34:49.200 --> 4:34:52.120 Cowboys and we'll talk to you again soon. Yeah, sir, 4:34:52.520 --> 4:34:56.360 welcome back to Texas man. Yeah absolutely, Nasan right knewest 4:34:56.440 --> 4:34:59.520 draft pick for the Dallas Cowboys, selected at ninety nine 4:34:59.640 --> 4:35:01.960 over all in the third round here on Day two. 4:35:02.120 --> 4:35:06.680 Couple of updates following the right pick. Melofon Wu cornerback 4:35:06.720 --> 4:35:08.920 from Syracuse goes at one oh one to the Lions, 4:35:09.360 --> 4:35:12.440 and at one oh two corner Ambrey Thomas from Michigan 4:35:12.520 --> 4:35:18.039 goes so corner corner, corner, corner, one ninety nine through 4:35:18.120 --> 4:35:20.600 one oh two here for the Dallas Cowboys. Well, after 4:35:20.759 --> 4:35:22.920 hearing from that sweet young man, I hope that he 4:35:23.040 --> 4:35:25.919 has a wonderful career. But my guess is history will 4:35:26.000 --> 4:35:29.320 not look back fondly on being picked right before Elijah Molden, 4:35:29.360 --> 4:35:33.440 Melofon and Ambrey Thomas. The beauty, the beauty of the draft, right, 4:35:33.560 --> 4:35:36.040 we never know. Well, what happens is you start to 4:35:36.120 --> 4:35:38.400 see the run and people, you know, they're gonna sleep 4:35:38.440 --> 4:35:40.360 on their board tonight and they're gonna look at all 4:35:40.400 --> 4:35:42.440 those you know, the teams at the end here in 4:35:42.480 --> 4:35:45.280 the Compensis toy. Yeah, you could trade these picks, but 4:35:45.560 --> 4:35:47.800 you could also you're in a situation where when you 4:35:47.919 --> 4:35:49.880 when you go to bed tonight, you're gonna look up 4:35:49.919 --> 4:35:51.320 there and you're gonna say, Okay, at least we don't 4:35:51.360 --> 4:35:53.560 have to take care of this this. This guys are 4:35:53.680 --> 4:35:56.400 knocking out their players right now, and they're gonna be 4:35:56.480 --> 4:35:59.840 ready tomorrow when this thing kicks off and have a 4:36:00.240 --> 4:36:02.480 a good run at it. And I feel like some teams, 4:36:02.800 --> 4:36:05.000 I especially live the last three picks. As we get 4:36:05.040 --> 4:36:08.600 to this point, Molden, Melofon and Thomas huge fan of 4:36:08.640 --> 4:36:10.840 all three of those players. Look like I know a 4:36:10.919 --> 4:36:14.280 lot of people read my draft guide and will base 4:36:14.360 --> 4:36:16.720 their opinions on players based off of what I write, 4:36:16.800 --> 4:36:20.200 And so I hope people will go go check out 4:36:20.240 --> 4:36:23.680 tape of this guy, go find highlights. Yeah, go go. 4:36:23.919 --> 4:36:26.320 I hope people go look at him because you know, yes, 4:36:26.440 --> 4:36:28.800 I had a later round grade on him, but you 4:36:28.880 --> 4:36:30.880 know what I've been wrong before, could be wrong again. 4:36:30.960 --> 4:36:33.280 Hopefully I want people to form their own opinions and 4:36:33.360 --> 4:36:37.040 not going strictly based on my evaluation that and you 4:36:37.120 --> 4:36:40.200 know it, maybe maybe I'm soft. I don't know, like 4:36:40.560 --> 4:36:42.800 I'm not. I don't want to kill and not someone 4:36:42.840 --> 4:36:44.840 I don't care about hurting the front offices feelings, but 4:36:44.960 --> 4:36:50.160 like the player, like it's not his fault, happy guy draft, 4:36:50.240 --> 4:36:52.160 and I don't blame him. The thing with that, too 4:36:52.640 --> 4:36:56.560 is wow, I feel like I completely lost my train 4:36:56.600 --> 4:36:58.600 of thought. Oh no, I'm back, I got it back. 4:36:58.919 --> 4:37:01.919 The point is is, like so many people and Dan, 4:37:02.040 --> 4:37:04.000 it's not your fault either, but people are gonna open 4:37:04.040 --> 4:37:06.919 you just like I did. I opened your book, scrolled 4:37:06.960 --> 4:37:09.520 way down on the list and thought, oh no, if 4:37:10.200 --> 4:37:12.640 this is not great, but yeah, I mean you're not 4:37:12.840 --> 4:37:16.840 infallible and so not at all. Yeah, you know, at 4:37:16.880 --> 4:37:18.720 the very least, I owe it to this guy to 4:37:18.800 --> 4:37:21.080 go sit down and watch a game or two seeing 4:37:21.160 --> 4:37:23.240 and I hope a lot of people take that same attitude. 4:37:23.280 --> 4:37:26.239 And I do think that he said something very smart 4:37:26.400 --> 4:37:28.840 and that he could have went to a lot of places, 4:37:28.960 --> 4:37:31.880 but he went here. And the scheme I think fits 4:37:32.000 --> 4:37:34.400 really well with you know, you think of Pete Carroll 4:37:34.480 --> 4:37:37.719 and everything they had in Seattle, and you mentioned Browner. 4:37:37.800 --> 4:37:41.039 That's a good example just at the height the length 4:37:42.759 --> 4:37:45.360 ability to fit that scheme. If he's going to succeed, 4:37:45.480 --> 4:37:48.160 this is the scheme to do it. So him out 4:37:48.240 --> 4:37:50.919 playing right graded him would not be a huge surprise. 4:37:51.320 --> 4:37:53.760 Let's go ahead and take a break here. We have 4:37:53.880 --> 4:37:57.080 gone just about three more picks left here in day two, 4:37:57.360 --> 4:37:59.800 looking ahead to day three, we're gonna go. Here's some 4:38:00.400 --> 4:38:02.360 secret audio on the other side of the break. When 4:38:02.400 --> 4:38:04.559 we return, you're listening to the twenty twenty one NFL 4:38:04.640 --> 4:38:06.440 Draft on one to five three to fan and Dallas 4:38:06.480 --> 4:38:13.680 Cowboys dot com. So there's a lot to unpack here. 4:38:13.840 --> 4:38:17.399 To say the least, I think a day too. I mean, 4:38:17.680 --> 4:38:19.960 I don't. I'm not trying to cut you off, Kyle, 4:38:20.240 --> 4:38:25.240 go for it you, Jeffrey, and again Kyle, not disrespecting you, 4:38:25.400 --> 4:38:27.280 but you three that I've done this with for a 4:38:27.360 --> 4:38:33.960 long time. How have you ever felt this just thrown 4:38:34.120 --> 4:38:37.600 for a loop by what they did on a particular day. 4:38:38.000 --> 4:38:40.520 I kind of thought I had an idea what Rod 4:38:40.720 --> 4:38:45.000 MIRNELLI had going. You know, when defensive coordinator gets involved, 4:38:45.040 --> 4:38:47.520 you're not always going to be happy about what they do, 4:38:47.759 --> 4:38:51.480 but we typically see it coming or try to have 4:38:51.600 --> 4:38:53.760 a good idea of what's going to happen. Again, the 4:38:53.880 --> 4:38:55.840 lack of Brett crumbs, you know, we keep coming back 4:38:55.880 --> 4:38:58.760 to that. We don't have a thirty list to be 4:38:58.840 --> 4:39:01.480 a poor over. You don't have the list of who 4:39:01.520 --> 4:39:04.640 they met at the combine. Uh. There's so many pieces 4:39:04.720 --> 4:39:07.640 to the usual puzzle the process that we just don't 4:39:07.680 --> 4:39:10.960 have this year. So it's you know, a guy like right, Uh, 4:39:11.200 --> 4:39:13.680 you know, well that's a name that I mean, Jeff 4:39:13.680 --> 4:39:15.440 you said you'd never heard that name, right, Yeah, I mean, 4:39:16.200 --> 4:39:17.759 and I'm sure a lot of fans the same thing. 4:39:18.120 --> 4:39:20.560 In a normal year, we probably would have heard, you know, 4:39:20.640 --> 4:39:23.240 more fans would have heard that name before because he 4:39:23.360 --> 4:39:26.120 might have been a thirty visit or a private workout guy. 4:39:27.000 --> 4:39:30.000 It's a really good point, Ernest. Ernest Jones, a linebacker 4:39:30.080 --> 4:39:32.280 from South Carolina is going to the Rams, and I 4:39:32.400 --> 4:39:34.760 have heard him and I like him. And that's the 4:39:34.840 --> 4:39:36.880 tough part, Like it's not gonna be like it's it's 4:39:37.360 --> 4:39:39.000 easy to just go, oh, I've never heard of him. 4:39:39.040 --> 4:39:41.640 He must be terrible, and then see the names of 4:39:41.680 --> 4:39:43.800 all of these guys that I do like that are 4:39:43.880 --> 4:39:45.560 going off the board, and it's like, well, this isn't 4:39:45.600 --> 4:39:47.920 gonna end well. But tonight I will go home and 4:39:48.040 --> 4:39:50.400 I will watch him. There's no question we will see. 4:39:51.080 --> 4:39:53.560 That might be the top topic tomorrow to start the 4:39:53.640 --> 4:39:56.520 show is probably what did we see from what we 4:39:56.600 --> 4:40:02.079 saw from I already forgot. Oh no, come on, Kyle, 4:40:02.759 --> 4:40:04.759 I didn't have enough in front of me. I'm sorry. 4:40:06.040 --> 4:40:09.120 Oh wow, this is I mean it is. It's interesting. 4:40:09.240 --> 4:40:11.200 I don't think any of us are upset with the 4:40:11.480 --> 4:40:13.680 way that the first two picks turned out. With the 4:40:13.759 --> 4:40:16.840 situation that was at hand, Michael Parsons, they did an 4:40:16.840 --> 4:40:20.759 okay job of trading back and taking probably the best 4:40:20.800 --> 4:40:23.840 player available at that point on their board. I mean, 4:40:23.960 --> 4:40:26.240 of course, we probably would have done something different with 4:40:26.320 --> 4:40:30.320 with Rashaans later with somebody else there. However, we kind of, 4:40:30.440 --> 4:40:33.560 like Dave said, expected that pick to happen right whenever 4:40:33.919 --> 4:40:36.160 the situation came at hand, we said, okay, they're going 4:40:36.200 --> 4:40:39.000 to trade back and probably take Parsons here. I was 4:40:39.040 --> 4:40:41.840 hoping for rashawon Slater, so were we all? Yeah, But 4:40:42.200 --> 4:40:46.480 I thought that with the trade down and getting the 4:40:46.560 --> 4:40:48.920 best linebacker in the draft. I was like, Okay, this 4:40:49.160 --> 4:40:51.280 can work. Let's see what the trade doown nets you. 4:40:52.000 --> 4:40:55.520 And the trade Doown netted number eighty four, and number 4:40:55.560 --> 4:40:59.919 eighty four was Chauncey Galston. So I don't mind get 4:41:00.200 --> 4:41:03.240 Chauncey Gholston for free for moving down two spots and 4:41:03.280 --> 4:41:05.879 probably picking the same guy they were going to pick um. 4:41:06.080 --> 4:41:08.520 But o Dicky Zoo obviously was not the top d 4:41:08.640 --> 4:41:11.520 tackle I had, right, was not the top corner that 4:41:11.600 --> 4:41:14.520 I had. So some of their picks I'll look at 4:41:14.520 --> 4:41:17.919 it at the moment and go really, and we'll see 4:41:17.960 --> 4:41:21.080 if that opinion on right changes overnight. I'm just I'm 4:41:21.280 --> 4:41:24.280 laughing because like before they drafted right, we you know, 4:41:24.360 --> 4:41:26.720 I'm trying to be all smart and figure out what 4:41:26.800 --> 4:41:29.600 they're doing, Like, well, they're drafting high floor guys. They 4:41:29.640 --> 4:41:32.320 need guys that can go right now. And then that 4:41:33.040 --> 4:41:35.680 I mean, we'll see if he's we'll see if he's better. 4:41:35.800 --> 4:41:38.040 But based on what we know about I'm like, that's 4:41:38.240 --> 4:41:41.520 that's a gamble sure as healthy. I will say I 4:41:42.320 --> 4:41:45.920 think that for me, the biggest mistake they will have 4:41:45.960 --> 4:41:48.120 made in this draft is going O Dicky Zoo at 4:41:48.240 --> 4:41:50.480 seventy five and then another guy who I think is 4:41:50.480 --> 4:41:52.120 a scheme fit here that's a really good player in 4:41:52.160 --> 4:41:54.400 Pauls and Nadibo went to pick after. Yeah, you could 4:41:54.400 --> 4:41:56.840 have had him at seventy five and I would be 4:41:56.919 --> 4:41:59.000 feeling a lot different a lot of that draft. Well, 4:41:59.040 --> 4:42:01.280 you probably could have got a Giza with the next pick, 4:42:01.720 --> 4:42:03.800 Gholston with his pick after that. Yeah, you might have 4:42:03.840 --> 4:42:05.800 been able to just keep following it. Yeah, and then 4:42:05.880 --> 4:42:08.920 taken right in the seventh. I don't know that I 4:42:09.000 --> 4:42:11.680 haven't seen him. We're just going off Dane. Oh gosh, 4:42:12.000 --> 4:42:14.560 Dane is a real jerk to you know, I do 4:42:14.680 --> 4:42:17.640 I feel bad? Who else? Who else? Who else even 4:42:17.720 --> 4:42:21.440 does as many prospects as Dane? Nobody, nobody, well maybe 4:42:21.560 --> 4:42:25.600 NFL teams. Maybe there might there might not be another. 4:42:26.120 --> 4:42:28.360 I'm like, I'm sure there's not something. It's gonna do 4:42:28.400 --> 4:42:30.920 a mock draft for next year after this thing and 4:42:31.040 --> 4:42:33.720 then start two weeks later on tape no I. And 4:42:34.440 --> 4:42:38.160 my only point was like, Dane might be the only outside, 4:42:38.560 --> 4:42:40.800 only member of the media who has a report on 4:42:40.919 --> 4:42:43.680 this guy. I like, I don't know. You know, Buddy 4:42:43.759 --> 4:42:45.399 Jonah saw him and he said he liked him, had him. 4:42:45.400 --> 4:42:47.600 He's like a fourth round guy. So there's somebody that's 4:42:47.600 --> 4:42:50.520 seen him and liked him. Okay, so that's good. By 4:42:50.600 --> 4:42:53.760 the way. Baron Browning, Ohio state linebacker goes as the 4:42:54.000 --> 4:42:58.640 final selection of the third round at one oh five 4:42:58.800 --> 4:43:00.880 to the Denver Broncos. And that was another guy that, 4:43:00.960 --> 4:43:04.120 at least before the Micah Parsons pick, was rumored to 4:43:04.320 --> 4:43:08.720 have been in conversation with the Dallas Cowboys. I wonder 4:43:08.759 --> 4:43:11.400 if they talked about him leading up to that pick. 4:43:17.280 --> 4:43:19.640 Day two has come to a close of the twenty 4:43:19.759 --> 4:43:22.240 twenty one NFL Draft as we continue our wall to 4:43:22.320 --> 4:43:24.560 wall coverage on one oh five three The Fan and 4:43:24.840 --> 4:43:28.039 Dallas Cowboys dot Com. The final picks after the Cowboys 4:43:28.080 --> 4:43:31.920 select Nashon Wright, at pick number ninety nine, the corner 4:43:31.960 --> 4:43:35.720 out of Oregon State, Elijah Molden Melafon move from Syracuse 4:43:35.800 --> 4:43:38.040 goes at one oh one. The forty nine ers take 4:43:38.040 --> 4:43:41.840 Ambrey Thomas the corner from Michigan, Ernest Jones linebacker from 4:43:41.840 --> 4:43:45.920 South Carolina, Brandon Stevens corner from SMU and then the 4:43:46.040 --> 4:43:50.640 final pick of the third round, Baron Browning, linebacker out 4:43:50.680 --> 4:43:54.640 of Ohio State and Kennadale High School product from over 4:43:54.800 --> 4:43:57.600 near Fort Worth, and he goes to round out round 4:43:57.680 --> 4:44:00.640 number three. Kyle Yeoman's Jeff Cabin O'Brien brought us Dame 4:44:00.680 --> 4:44:05.400 Bruegler and David Hellman rounding out what is a wild 4:44:05.720 --> 4:44:08.280 day to a unique day to to say the least 4:44:08.320 --> 4:44:11.520 about the NFL Draft. And there's a lot to talk about, 4:44:11.640 --> 4:44:13.600 Dave whenever it comes to the Dallas Cowboys and some 4:44:13.680 --> 4:44:15.480 of the selections that they made. Will hear from of 4:44:15.560 --> 4:44:18.080 course the front office pretty soon about it. But you 4:44:18.240 --> 4:44:20.840 take four picks into the night, you come out with 4:44:20.919 --> 4:44:23.480 four picks, no trading up, no trading back. But what 4:44:23.600 --> 4:44:25.840 did you think overall of the day? Um, well, I 4:44:25.880 --> 4:44:29.640 already I said at the top, like this is which 4:44:29.720 --> 4:44:32.760 is ironic because like we nailed the first one, like 4:44:32.919 --> 4:44:35.640 we were on Kelvin Joseph Quick and I felt good 4:44:35.680 --> 4:44:38.640 about that, and I haven't. I haven't felt so thrown 4:44:38.759 --> 4:44:41.400 for a loop by a Cowboys draft day in a 4:44:41.440 --> 4:44:44.840 long time. It's like they clearly like their guys. Itn't 4:44:45.040 --> 4:44:47.320 didn't always line up with what we thought. But my 4:44:47.440 --> 4:44:50.400 second impression on that is, you can't say they didn't 4:44:50.440 --> 4:44:53.840 address the defense. My god, they haven't gone offense one time. 4:44:54.160 --> 4:44:56.560 They did. I mean, and we've said so many times, 4:44:56.600 --> 4:44:58.720 you're like, they're not all going to be defensive picks, 4:44:58.800 --> 4:45:01.200 like they're going to draft attack or a receiver. I thought, 4:45:01.280 --> 4:45:03.879 I thought they're gonna take an offensive tackle. They might 4:45:03.960 --> 4:45:06.320 have thought about it, but literally they've how many have 4:45:06.360 --> 4:45:10.399 they made? Five? They've made five five five defenders, probably 4:45:10.600 --> 4:45:13.360 four of which are good enough to contribute right away. 4:45:13.560 --> 4:45:16.320 We think, yes, let's hear from one of those selections 4:45:16.360 --> 4:45:19.079 in the secret audio. This might be a fun one. 4:45:19.200 --> 4:45:21.840 I think Nashan right the final pick of the day 4:45:22.280 --> 4:45:29.320 for the Dallas Cowboys, as he was selected at ninety nine. No, Sean, listen, 4:45:29.440 --> 4:45:34.560 this is Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys. How we 4:45:34.720 --> 4:45:37.160 just decided to pick you, and you're now we're turning 4:45:37.240 --> 4:45:40.120 your card in. You're gonna be a Dallas cowboy. Yeah, 4:45:42.880 --> 4:45:46.720 let's go. You've bet. Hey, where are you right now? 4:45:47.080 --> 4:45:49.560 Where are you? I'm home. I'm our home of Stockton, 4:45:49.640 --> 4:45:53.720 California and Stockton Okay, buddy, well listen, we are excited 4:45:53.720 --> 4:45:58.000 about having you, really are. And we were, we were, 4:45:58.440 --> 4:46:01.760 we were, we were doing a lot of consternation. So 4:46:02.320 --> 4:46:04.480 come come in here and uh be one of the 4:46:04.560 --> 4:46:09.960 greatest length of corners ever played. All right, okay, okay, 4:46:10.560 --> 4:46:13.440 here's your coach, Ny sean coach from Carthy. How are 4:46:13.440 --> 4:46:18.280 you going? Hey, congratulations, are you around family and friends? 4:46:19.640 --> 4:46:22.200 Thank you? Well, hey, man, I just want you to 4:46:22.280 --> 4:46:24.360 come in here and be yourself. You're you're. It's a 4:46:24.440 --> 4:46:27.440 great fit. We're gonna we're gonna coach a let and 4:46:27.680 --> 4:46:31.560 you're gonna be part of a championship football team. All right, man, 4:46:32.480 --> 4:46:36.160 Oh I love it, I love it. Enjoy this moment. 4:46:37.320 --> 4:46:42.400 All right? All right? But bye. So that's the secret audio. 4:46:42.560 --> 4:46:44.520 And I mean we knew it was going to be 4:46:44.600 --> 4:46:47.560 a surprise for right. Probably it was a surprise to us. 4:46:47.600 --> 4:46:49.400 It was a surprise to right. That's a great moment. 4:46:49.560 --> 4:46:53.200 I love, like everybody's excited on the draft call, but 4:46:53.360 --> 4:46:56.240 for him to literally yell, let's go in. Jerry Jones 4:46:56.360 --> 4:47:00.440 is here, Jerry said, let's go, let's go back. I'm 4:47:00.759 --> 4:47:03.040 I'm rooting for this guy because, like we said, it's 4:47:03.160 --> 4:47:06.200 it's not his fault. Like if if the Cowboys are wrong, 4:47:06.280 --> 4:47:08.160 we can roast him for it later. But I'm not 4:47:08.240 --> 4:47:10.280 going to root against this dude because I don't want 4:47:10.280 --> 4:47:12.640 to feel right. Let's just have a feel a better 4:47:12.800 --> 4:47:15.400 athlete than what we saw with Robinson at a Tulsa 4:47:15.520 --> 4:47:19.440 last year. Kind of a long, tall corner. Any any 4:47:19.919 --> 4:47:22.680 any comparison there, Dane, with what we what we have now, 4:47:22.919 --> 4:47:25.240 well and we think of Okay, the Robinson pick was 4:47:25.320 --> 4:47:30.120 for a different scheme, you know, a different uh defensive 4:47:30.160 --> 4:47:34.360 coaching staff. So this all it comes down to is 4:47:34.919 --> 4:47:36.320 you know, you look like I'm putting you on the 4:47:36.360 --> 4:47:38.240 spot here. I'm sorry about this, no, but I mean 4:47:38.680 --> 4:47:40.320 the thing is with Robinson, we just don't know enough. 4:47:40.320 --> 4:47:41.960 I don't you know, we don't don't know enough about 4:47:42.200 --> 4:47:44.720 how he progress as a rookie, what he's gonna look 4:47:44.759 --> 4:47:47.400 like in year two. A lot of question marks with him, 4:47:47.880 --> 4:47:50.240 with right. I think, you know, like we talked about, 4:47:50.360 --> 4:47:55.600 he is a kind of the prototype for a intriguing 4:47:56.240 --> 4:48:00.840 raw prospect in that Dan Quinn scheme. A guy that 4:48:00.880 --> 4:48:02.960 can play the cover three. It can be a press 4:48:03.000 --> 4:48:05.360 man guy if you want him to. But the light feet, 4:48:05.440 --> 4:48:08.800 the length, you know, it's just it's a really interesting pick. 4:48:09.160 --> 4:48:11.240 That interesting, I think, is the word I keep coming 4:48:11.320 --> 4:48:15.960 back to, because there's nothing about him that says like, oh, 4:48:16.080 --> 4:48:18.759 he's not going to be a good pro He's just very, 4:48:18.960 --> 4:48:21.240 very raw, and so it will take a little bit 4:48:21.320 --> 4:48:25.440 of time. But again, he said it himself. Six four corners. 4:48:25.640 --> 4:48:27.280 That's rare, and it's not like he's listed at six 4:48:27.400 --> 4:48:29.280 four and he's really six one and a half. He's 4:48:29.280 --> 4:48:32.800 a legit six four. He towers over wide receiver. So 4:48:32.960 --> 4:48:35.480 a really interesting player. I'm gonna really put you on 4:48:35.560 --> 4:48:38.480 the spot because they did this a couple of years 4:48:38.480 --> 4:48:44.039 ago with Chris Westry. Yeah, he's similar. I think Westrey 4:48:44.120 --> 4:48:46.680 was more like six two sixty three. Yeah, Kentucky. But 4:48:47.000 --> 4:48:49.840 I don't know how how do those two compare. What 4:48:49.919 --> 4:48:52.480 do you think about that as a you know, whether 4:48:52.560 --> 4:48:54.480 this guy's got more upside? Maybe I think he's got 4:48:54.520 --> 4:48:57.000 more upside. Yeah, I think he's a guy that has 4:48:57.080 --> 4:48:59.120 yet to play his best football. When you watch him, 4:49:00.120 --> 4:49:03.880 he's again a former wide receiver, so he's still learning 4:49:04.240 --> 4:49:06.160 the ins and outs of the position. There are times 4:49:06.240 --> 4:49:09.079 where he just looks lost, but there are other times 4:49:09.160 --> 4:49:11.920 where his athleticism allows him to stay in phase and 4:49:12.120 --> 4:49:16.559 recover quickly. So when you have that length, you're able 4:49:16.600 --> 4:49:19.640 to cast a wide net in as a run defender, 4:49:20.040 --> 4:49:22.759 in pass coverage, you're able to make plays down the field. 4:49:22.840 --> 4:49:27.240 So just a really fascinating player that I did not 4:49:27.400 --> 4:49:29.520 expect to be off the board here on Day two. 4:49:29.640 --> 4:49:31.880 So I don't think he did either. No, No, I don't. 4:49:32.320 --> 4:49:35.000 I don't think. So. There's a couple of people tagging 4:49:35.120 --> 4:49:37.880 us all in these tweets about Nashan Wright and what 4:49:37.960 --> 4:49:39.919 he brings to the table. This is a good one though, 4:49:39.919 --> 4:49:43.919 about PF Nashan Wright and zone coverage. Last season, completion 4:49:44.000 --> 4:49:47.840 percentage just over forty five percent, he allowed forty two 4:49:47.960 --> 4:49:51.520 yards and his passer rating was eighteen flat. Okay, so 4:49:51.600 --> 4:49:54.600 those are good numbers in zone coverage, really good numbers 4:49:54.640 --> 4:49:56.160 to say the least. And then he's also got a 4:49:56.200 --> 4:49:58.880 lot of ball production as well. Had an interception against Oregon. 4:49:58.919 --> 4:50:02.640 It looks like has a track background. Of course he 4:50:02.759 --> 4:50:05.559 wasn't really talked about much. But I mean there's at 4:50:05.600 --> 4:50:08.160 least people pointing in the direction of this guy who've 4:50:08.240 --> 4:50:11.000 watched more than we have, and you are saying, hey, 4:50:11.080 --> 4:50:13.840 there's uh, there's some good things about it, including what 4:50:14.000 --> 4:50:17.240 Dame Brugler just said. But now that the day is concluded, 4:50:17.600 --> 4:50:20.840 we're going into day three, and of course still six 4:50:20.960 --> 4:50:23.000 more picks to make tomorrow. I mean there's a lot 4:50:23.080 --> 4:50:24.760 to go on. The Cowboys first on the clock in 4:50:24.800 --> 4:50:27.440 the fourth round at one fifteen. What do we think 4:50:27.520 --> 4:50:29.640 from here? I mean, I know, Dave, you just said it. 4:50:29.759 --> 4:50:31.680 You've never been thrown for a loop quite like this. 4:50:31.919 --> 4:50:33.800 I don't. I don't know, man, where do we go? 4:50:33.919 --> 4:50:36.360 I'm supposed to be the analyst. I mean, there's a 4:50:36.400 --> 4:50:39.000 lot there's a lot of great players left on the board, 4:50:39.080 --> 4:50:41.280 but sure a lot of them have been there since 4:50:41.440 --> 4:50:45.160 pick yea seventy five, So I mean, you know, there's 4:50:45.240 --> 4:50:47.960 there's some good receivers there. They need to address the 4:50:48.000 --> 4:50:51.480 offensive line. I think they will Smith two guys think 4:50:51.840 --> 4:50:54.200 you know the fourth side was another guy mentioned makes 4:50:54.240 --> 4:50:56.680 waste too much sense to draft a tackle and they'll 4:50:56.720 --> 4:50:58.360 have they'll have two picks in the fourth, so they 4:50:58.440 --> 4:50:59.880 got a chance to do some of that, and that's 4:51:00.880 --> 4:51:03.000 you know, I don't you know, it's it was important 4:51:03.000 --> 4:51:05.800 to add talent on defense. But I'd like to think 4:51:05.840 --> 4:51:07.560 that now that they've gotten some of that out of 4:51:07.560 --> 4:51:09.520 the way again, go back to the two picks that 4:51:09.600 --> 4:51:12.879 we say, high floor Goldston and no O Diggi Zuoa. 4:51:13.400 --> 4:51:15.680 So maybe now if you're like, Okay, these guys are 4:51:15.880 --> 4:51:18.720 we think these guys can contribute right away, maybe they 4:51:18.960 --> 4:51:21.680 maybe they go back to more of that BPA attitude 4:51:22.280 --> 4:51:24.600 now that they've addressed some of this stuff. But I 4:51:25.000 --> 4:51:28.480 have to admit I'm just guessing because I feel clueless 4:51:28.600 --> 4:51:33.240 right now. Best player available for me I'm monros st 4:51:33.240 --> 4:51:36.160 Brown at a USC. I think the most surprising though 4:51:36.280 --> 4:51:38.840 might beat Jibril Cox. Yeah, that's my top one. I 4:51:39.560 --> 4:51:41.719 was not the biggest j. Broll Cox fan just because 4:51:42.640 --> 4:51:45.560 so many mistakes versus the runs really bothered me. But 4:51:46.160 --> 4:51:49.000 as a coverage player he was really solid, So to 4:51:49.080 --> 4:51:51.559 see him here still available out to the first two 4:51:51.640 --> 4:51:56.239 days pretty surprising. Um Kenneth Gainwell, BREVND, Jordan Jante Brown, 4:51:56.759 --> 4:51:59.919 j T. File. A couple of these players are more 4:52:00.000 --> 4:52:03.559 surprising than another. Brian brought up Cox and Browning's gone now, 4:52:03.680 --> 4:52:05.840 But Brian brought those two up all the way back 4:52:06.160 --> 4:52:08.720 in the second round, I think third round. Yeah, I 4:52:08.880 --> 4:52:12.079 wonder if you eventually get to like a blinking light 4:52:12.160 --> 4:52:15.480 type of situation where like, if Jabril Cox is there 4:52:15.520 --> 4:52:17.560 when they pick at one fifteen tomorrow, would they do 4:52:17.680 --> 4:52:20.920 it just because that's ridiculous value? Yeah, I don't just 4:52:21.080 --> 4:52:23.200 me thinking out lot well, and I know, like when 4:52:23.240 --> 4:52:25.040 I was working on my seven round mock, you know, 4:52:25.160 --> 4:52:28.680 I I always distributed it to a few different teams 4:52:28.720 --> 4:52:30.440 and I'm close with and say, hey, what do you think? 4:52:30.480 --> 4:52:32.800 What do you think? And I know one team came 4:52:32.880 --> 4:52:34.919 back and said, oh, you got Cox way too low. 4:52:34.960 --> 4:52:37.759 He's not getting out of the top forty. So it's like, okay, 4:52:38.080 --> 4:52:40.440 well now he's out of the top one hundred. Whoever 4:52:40.520 --> 4:52:43.960 told you that passed on him? That's what I'm like, Okay, well, 4:52:44.840 --> 4:52:47.280 you know, did something late come up medically or you know, 4:52:47.440 --> 4:52:51.480 it's just a curious curious thing if he's there one fifteen, though, 4:52:51.520 --> 4:52:54.039 you could take a chance you've picked five players already, right, 4:52:54.360 --> 4:52:57.000 I would like that's that's kind of my point is like, Okay, 4:52:57.160 --> 4:53:01.239 Parsons and Calvin Joseph, you're hoping are going to start 4:53:01.560 --> 4:53:04.560 right away, right yeah? And then you got O DIGGI 4:53:04.680 --> 4:53:07.360 Zooa and Gholston maybe not starters, but guys that you 4:53:07.440 --> 4:53:11.160 think can contribute. So we've addressed I guess you still 4:53:11.200 --> 4:53:13.400 need a safety. Well, you don't really need a safety 4:53:13.480 --> 4:53:16.120 because you have these three vets that they signed if 4:53:16.160 --> 4:53:19.640 you include Keyan O'Neil. So I would like to think 4:53:19.759 --> 4:53:23.240 that they are open to a more pure BPA approach 4:53:23.280 --> 4:53:26.960 tomorrow because other than offensive tackle, they've hit all of 4:53:27.040 --> 4:53:30.960 the really big problem spots. Right yeah. I guess the 4:53:31.800 --> 4:53:35.200 only guy that I think kind of stands out like 4:53:35.280 --> 4:53:37.400 a blinking light in terms of what they're trying to do, 4:53:37.560 --> 4:53:39.560 because when you're bringing in a six four corner, you 4:53:39.640 --> 4:53:44.280 are announcing hello, cover three is I think Jamar Johnson 4:53:44.320 --> 4:53:46.760 would fit in the end safety. I think you could 4:53:46.759 --> 4:53:50.400 play free safety. Now if ten people miss a tackle, 4:53:50.560 --> 4:53:53.640 the guy's going to score because Jamar Johnson can't tackle. 4:53:54.600 --> 4:53:58.120 He's a very choosy tackler, but he can't cover and 4:53:58.240 --> 4:54:00.600 make plays on the poll. I mentioned the guys too, 4:54:00.720 --> 4:54:04.720 because of those safeties. I still have Gillespie on there, 4:54:04.840 --> 4:54:07.079 and I know we watched that. You know, I mean, 4:54:07.680 --> 4:54:11.200 to me, there's some guys with Wartz, you know, Gillespie. 4:54:11.360 --> 4:54:14.360 Washington's a guy I had. I mean, I was sweet Sweetheartarius. 4:54:14.440 --> 4:54:16.600 I was shitting him at some point. I was expecting that. 4:54:16.720 --> 4:54:18.360 I was expecting him to go at the end of 4:54:18.360 --> 4:54:21.600 the third, I really was. I was Washington from TCU, 4:54:21.840 --> 4:54:24.440 and I think I think the height and then probably 4:54:24.480 --> 4:54:27.160 what he ran into forty. But again it's about you know, 4:54:27.240 --> 4:54:29.760 if you watch the tape, watch these kids play, and 4:54:30.320 --> 4:54:32.960 I don't know to me, and that's why I'm excited. 4:54:33.120 --> 4:54:35.800 I'm gonna watch the kid from Oregon and try and 4:54:35.880 --> 4:54:38.640 learn about him. You're gonna want to find Oregon State 4:54:39.040 --> 4:54:43.480 organ he plays Oregon against Oregon. They said it's always 4:54:43.480 --> 4:54:45.120 noticed a civil war, but it was a pick in 4:54:45.160 --> 4:54:47.280 a cover three. I was gonna let him off the hook. 4:54:47.320 --> 4:54:51.440 But you're just not I'm not very I'm not very 4:54:51.520 --> 4:54:53.840 charitable mood right now. I don't know. I was talking 4:54:53.880 --> 4:54:58.560 to Jeff. Jeff's the one over there. But it's just 4:54:58.720 --> 4:55:01.960 like I said, that's that's the thing that you know, 4:55:02.200 --> 4:55:04.520 and maybe I'm making it a two personal thing. But 4:55:04.600 --> 4:55:08.080 I just when you evaluate players, you know, you evaluate them, 4:55:08.120 --> 4:55:10.640 you think, okay, this guy, because look what happened after 4:55:10.800 --> 4:55:14.240 that kid went, the Oregon State kid went, all those 4:55:14.280 --> 4:55:16.720 corners went. It was just Bank and every one of 4:55:16.759 --> 4:55:19.680 those guys I had right where they took him. And 4:55:19.800 --> 4:55:22.280 I'm like going, Okay, maybe I'm not a complete idiot here, 4:55:22.680 --> 4:55:25.440 you know. So that's you know, I just feel like 4:55:25.560 --> 4:55:28.320 that if you take players and they probably know a 4:55:28.440 --> 4:55:30.640 hell of a lot more than me, you know, so 4:55:31.560 --> 4:55:33.240 I'll be interested to see how it all turns out. 4:55:33.320 --> 4:55:35.120 There's still a lot of draft left to be had. 4:55:35.440 --> 4:55:37.680 Today or tomorrow's the day of the scouts. Brian brought 4:55:37.680 --> 4:55:39.600 does that should make you feel better? You've got some 4:55:39.680 --> 4:55:43.960 snicker bars? You're not you when you're hungry? Doesn't He 4:55:44.080 --> 4:55:46.920 doesn't feel better because he doesn't trust that he's gonna 4:55:47.480 --> 4:55:50.200 happens to a good point. You've got You've got five 4:55:50.320 --> 4:55:52.640 more chances, six more chances to get it right tomorrow. 4:55:52.720 --> 4:55:54.840 So the Cowboys still a lot of draft left to 4:55:54.880 --> 4:55:57.920 be had. There was a chuckle there. I heard that 4:55:58.360 --> 4:56:00.880 that's true. Oh that's gonna do it for us? Here 4:56:01.000 --> 4:56:03.480 on Day two special thanks to our friends over at 4:56:03.560 --> 4:56:06.239 Miller Lite, our friends at Snickers, our friends at Dallas 4:56:06.280 --> 4:56:10.759 Cowboys youth camps and football and Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders youth camps, 4:56:10.800 --> 4:56:12.840 and well, we've had a lot of fun today, a 4:56:12.919 --> 4:56:16.040 lot of guessing, guessing and a lot of pondering heading 4:56:16.080 --> 4:56:19.960 into day three and a bad guessing, but bad guessing. Yeah, 4:56:20.000 --> 4:56:22.240 swings and misses from us today. We'll try and be 4:56:22.320 --> 4:56:23.960 better tomorrow and see what we can do. But we 4:56:24.080 --> 4:56:26.880 were great. That's true. It's all about us, Jeff cavanall 4:56:26.919 --> 4:56:28.760 that's exactly right. Were right where we want to be 4:56:28.919 --> 4:56:31.800 for Jeff Cavanaugh, Brian brought us, Dame Burglar, David Hellman, 4:56:31.960 --> 4:56:35.079 I'm Kyle Elmas. 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