1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Good Morning, This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: This week we've been talking about tips from Gretchen Reuben, 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: a friend of this podcast who's also the co host 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: of the podcast Happier. Her most recent book, Outer Order 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: inter Calm, has all kinds of tips for creating a 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: more tranquil space, schedule, and life. Today's tip from Gretchen 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: is to beware that little gremlin known as procrastic clearing. Sometimes, 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Gretchen tells us, I get the very strong urge to 10 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: clear clutter, not from the true desire for outer order, 11 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: but from the desire to delay work on some unpleasant task. 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Those crowded shelves in my office had never bothered me, 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: but now that it's time to face a tough assignment, 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: I'm convinced that nothing can possibly get accomplished until I've 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: dealt with those shelves. So she procrastinates meaningful work by 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: doing something that seems productive but isn't necessarily in the 17 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. Yes, she says, creating order can 18 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: clear our minds, release energy, and help us prepare to 19 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: tackle big tasks. But we need to be sure that 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: clutter clearing isn't an excuse to postpone work on something 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: that's more important. There's a real difference between helpful preparation 22 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: and unhelpful procrastination. It's a secret of adulthood. Working such 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: as clutter clearing is one of the most dangerous forms 24 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: of procrastination. Of course, the real devil isn't knowing the difference. 25 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: So this is Laura here. If you're wondering if you're 26 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: indulging in procrastic clearing, try assigning yourself an hour or 27 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: two on your main project. First. Yes, of course you'll 28 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: get to those cluttered shelves, but first you can make 29 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: two phone calls and write an outline related to your 30 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: big project. The shelves will still be there and will 31 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: still benefit from the cleanup. You're just moving it two 32 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: hours into the future, then two hours later. See how 33 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: you feel. If the urge to clean passes once you 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: realize you're making serious progress on your project, you can 35 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: either abandon the shelf clearing project or do it at 36 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: some low energy time when you need a break. I 37 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: find the five to ten minutes while I'm waiting for 38 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: a conference call to start are great for that sort 39 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: of thing. But if after a solid hour or two, 40 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: you feel like it would help matters if you clean 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: the shelves, then go for it. Still, do yourself a 42 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: favor and set a timer for however long you think 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: would be reasonable. Limiting the time available for cleaning forces 44 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: you to prioritize and keeps you from putting off the 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: rest of your work indefinitely. Do you engage in what 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: Gretchen calls procrest to clearing. Maybe you have a very 47 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: well organized spice rack because of it, or maybe you're 48 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: the sort of person who really can't get anything done 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: about cleaning your shelves. If so, you can let me 50 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: know at Before Breakfast podcast at i heeart media dot com. 51 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: In the meantime, this is Laura. Thanks for listening, and 52 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: here's to making the most of our time. 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