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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jests podcast.
Speaker 2: Eric Allen here in the studio, joined by Bart Scott.
Speaker 1: We've missed you of the last couple weeks.
Speaker 3: Buddy, likewise, man, but it's good to be back. Man.
Speaker 3: I think the world needs me today.
Speaker 1: They do need you today.
Speaker 2: Two and two after four games. That's where the New
Speaker 2: York Jets stand. Bart, just one game out of the
Speaker 2: AFC East lead, but obviously no joy in Mudville here
Speaker 2: this morning after the Jets lose a very winnable game
Speaker 2: to the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, and now you have to hear all the
Speaker 4: things that people say, you know what I mean, same
Speaker 4: old Jets and all that stuff, because they opened the
Speaker 4: door for that. Aaron Rodgers spoke to it earlier this
Speaker 4: week about handling success. They came out and had a
Speaker 4: flat game. Nobody cares about the elements, but that was
Speaker 4: a lacklus to performance and the defense tried to hold
Speaker 4: them in but you have to hold yourself accountable.
Speaker 3: You have to get in there from the one yard line.
Speaker 4: Those are things that if you want to be the
Speaker 4: type of team that people believe you are, you close
Speaker 4: the door on teams like the Denver Broncos. You find
Speaker 4: ways to win no matter how tough it is, no
Speaker 4: matter what the elements are, you just get it done,
Speaker 4: especially at home.
Speaker 2: So what do you think the message jeams should be
Speaker 2: here at one Jets Drive today when Robert sala is
Speaker 2: back in the building, probably didn't get much sleep last night,
Speaker 2: and the players come back and get the regent.
Speaker 4: Shut up and come to work like all the stuff
Speaker 4: that we've been letting get if we've been letting anything
Speaker 4: get away in practice, zero tolerance like you, because that's
Speaker 4: what happens. Like this is still relatively a young team
Speaker 4: and everybody's feeling good about themselves, and they show that
Speaker 4: they lack the maturity to handle success. So now you
Speaker 4: got to stay on them all the time, because if
Speaker 4: you don't stay on them all the time, you have letups.
Speaker 4: And you know, I know you hold yourself to a
Speaker 4: high standard on the defense side of the ball, but there's
Speaker 4: no you can have a miscommunication when you clearly. You
Speaker 4: could see Michael Carter clearly complaining to somebody that they
Speaker 4: didn't get the communication or they didn't execute the call
Speaker 4: because you had something in the back of the end
Speaker 4: zone wide open. And that's the difference in the game.
Speaker 3: You can play.
Speaker 4: Nobody cares that you held you know, bow knicks, you
Speaker 4: know to sixty yards passing. At the end of the day,
Speaker 4: you gave up a play that was a big play
Speaker 4: and you were put in an adverse situation.
Speaker 3: But so what, That's what you get paid the big
Speaker 3: books for.
Speaker 2: So when you watch that game, you have a lot
Speaker 2: of memories of playing similar games yourself right now, where
Speaker 2: the defense is put in bad position, but they give
Speaker 2: the offense an opportunity to finally get on track. And
Speaker 2: I thought there was just multiple times where the Jets
Speaker 2: could have took advantage of that game. And you mentioned
Speaker 2: that first half opportunity where Rogers gets out of the
Speaker 2: pocket Allen Lazards and nine zone draws the pass interference
Speaker 2: and then you have three shots. It was going to
Speaker 2: be four shots, but then I believe afore a start
Speaker 2: preceded a Greg zerline field goal.
Speaker 4: There, right, That's what you talk about the self inflicted wounds.
Speaker 4: Thirteen penalties that can't be acceptable. You have to be
Speaker 4: a clean game. You know, first of all, you have
Speaker 4: to get let a team beat you. You shouldn't beat yourself.
Speaker 4: And that's a self inflicted wound, and that's something you
Speaker 4: have to sa accountable with because that's something that you
Speaker 4: can control. And you talk about like you need the
Speaker 4: stars to play at a high level and you can't
Speaker 4: have those type of penalties from people that you depend
Speaker 4: on to be the difference between winning and losing, because
Speaker 4: difference between winning and losing but in a negative way,
Speaker 4: and momentum is something, right, because you don't get that
Speaker 4: touchdown in the beginning of the second half, I mean
Speaker 4: in the first half. Now in the second half, this
Speaker 4: allows them to feel like they can still be balanced
Speaker 4: and run the football because it's only a field goal difference, right,
Speaker 4: So that's the difference, right, They feel like they can
Speaker 4: still run the ball.
Speaker 3: They were able to run the ball down your throat.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was strange to me that last week
Speaker 4: we were forty percent blitz, but then we would blitz
Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback. It seems like he was primed to
Speaker 4: blitz the rookie quarterback when they were blitzing our vetching
Speaker 4: quarterback and have success.
Speaker 3: You know, So they got to go.
Speaker 4: Back to the drawing board because guess what, Minnesota is
Speaker 4: going to play a similar way. They have a more
Speaker 4: dynamic running game and they have a better pass quarterback
Speaker 4: behind center. So this is going to give them everything
Speaker 4: that they that they hope for, which for I mean,
Speaker 4: because this is going to be a contest that they're
Speaker 4: going to walk in and be the underdog, and maybe
Speaker 4: they can perform being an underdog. But then if that's
Speaker 4: the case, if you come back and put a dynamic performance,
Speaker 4: then that just part of the illuminates the bad one
Speaker 4: that you had, because that means that you played your
Speaker 4: play with your food, you play up to your competition
Speaker 4: and down to your competition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just have to make this want a blip
Speaker 2: on the radar in terms of the penalties, because globally
Speaker 2: we talk about the false starts.
Speaker 1: You had five, but it's not like that was the
Speaker 1: only issue.
Speaker 2: There were fifteen and all called against the Jets, thirteen
Speaker 2: marked off, So everybody had a hand in it. And
Speaker 2: I would imagine if you're down there in the locker room,
Speaker 2: is that everybody has to own it and then you
Speaker 2: just gotta play more disciplined football, starting with Sunday in
Speaker 2: London against the Blankens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you have to play a clean game
Speaker 4: because the opponent that you playing is arguably the best
Speaker 4: team in football right now.
Speaker 3: So I mean they'll they'll embarrass you.
Speaker 4: The team that beat you the first week, they dominated,
Speaker 4: and they dominated, not when they were injured, they dominated
Speaker 4: when they still had everybody there except for Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 4: The same team that you face, they faced and they
Speaker 4: destroyed it. They went and destroyed the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 4: last week. I know the end score made it look
Speaker 4: like it was closer, but they beat them too. So
Speaker 4: they're proven against tough competition, right they They they've got.
Speaker 3: Good wins on their on their record. You know. The
Speaker 3: Jets so far don't have a good win on their record.
Speaker 3: You know this.
Speaker 4: So this is a step up in class and they
Speaker 4: have to show that they can beat teams that are
Speaker 4: above five hundred with more than average quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I know you're keeping it real. I gotta
Speaker 1: keep it real as well.
Speaker 2: On the bright side of things, I thought Quincy Williams
Speaker 2: and DJ Reid defensively, both were outstanding.
Speaker 3: Yeah they were. I mean they played at a high level.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, they can't get
Speaker 4: pushed around like this defensive line is getting pushed around
Speaker 4: and making it.
Speaker 3: More difficult for the quarterback being for the linebackers.
Speaker 4: So they have to figure out, you know, you have
Speaker 4: to learn how to blow up or if you can't
Speaker 4: handle the point because you don't have al Woods, you
Speaker 4: don't have Quentin Jefferson, You're missing a lot of guys.
Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of size in the middle
Speaker 4: right like Quinn should be like the second biggest guy.
Speaker 3: You need a big fatty there, but you don't have that.
Speaker 4: So if you don't have that and teams are doing
Speaker 4: that to you, you have to be able to add
Speaker 4: another man in the box and come down and you
Speaker 4: have to put the pressure on the corners to hold up.
Speaker 3: Right. If you're going to do that, you have to
Speaker 3: allocate more people. That's what they did.
Speaker 4: All they did was run blitz us and they put
Speaker 4: everybody ran to their gaps and they were able to
Speaker 4: shoot gaps because everybody knew their gaps, knew their responsibilities,
Speaker 4: and they just run blitzed to death. I mean, Aaron
Speaker 4: Jones is a dynamic runner, and you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: stay consistent because you have to be able to stop
Speaker 4: the run repeatedly. You know they're not going to give
Speaker 4: up on it, and you know they're not They're gonna
Speaker 4: be relentless.
Speaker 1: We're taping this on Monday.
Speaker 2: Bart Robert Salad just talked to the media a little
Speaker 2: bit ago. He said that Lucky Fotu, the defensive tackle
Speaker 2: the Jets sign a free agency, might be one of
Speaker 2: those players who is eligible coming off into a reserve.
Speaker 2: From what you're saying, this would be right in time
Speaker 2: to add another body in the middle.
Speaker 4: I mean you have to, like, you know, the strength
Speaker 4: of this team has been his depth. His depth has
Speaker 4: been been been questioned as far as there has been tested,
Speaker 4: so to speak. So guys have to step up. You know,
Speaker 4: we have guys that have been elevated from a practice squad.
Speaker 4: Hector came from a practice squad. You know, sometimes it
Speaker 4: can be the law of diminished returns guys who don't
Speaker 4: have to mature and come of age really quickly because
Speaker 4: you have to depend on some young guys and you know,
Speaker 4: the rotation to be you know deep that means guys
Speaker 4: have to step up and make the standards of standard.
Speaker 3: Can't be any slip off.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the standard, Aaron Rodgers and games he started
Speaker 2: through his career, I think it's five games his team did.
Speaker 1: Not score an offensive touchdown.
Speaker 2: He's been playing a lot of football, and I believe
Speaker 2: two of those games he did not finish. What do
Speaker 2: you make of the stops and starts that you saw
Speaker 2: against the Broncos because they did have success moving the
Speaker 2: ball at times, and then how does that project moving
Speaker 2: forward when you're looking at that Vikings defense that you
Speaker 2: think awfully high.
Speaker 4: Well you talk about you know, Brian Floor as you
Speaker 4: heard Brock Perry say, Man, that's the hell of a scheme,
Speaker 4: you know, and that's supposed to be with arguably one
Speaker 4: of the best play calls. On the other side, they
Speaker 4: blitzed second most or you know, maybe first, more than
Speaker 4: anybody in the NFL. So this week the Jet struggle
Speaker 4: against Van Joseph. So they got to have an answer.
Speaker 4: You got to be on your details right. You got
Speaker 4: to be able to know where you when you're hot,
Speaker 4: you gotta know when you got to know what the
Speaker 4: protections are. You got to know where the slide coverage
Speaker 4: is you got to know how to scan because it's
Speaker 4: going to be deception and you got to be able
Speaker 4: to decipher.
Speaker 3: And guy's got to be on their details because it's
Speaker 3: gonna be pivotal.
Speaker 4: Because Aaron Rodgers because of it, it seemed like he
Speaker 4: heard his hamstring or lower body and injury will just
Speaker 4: say that, right, and you know that can that.
Speaker 3: Can make him immobile.
Speaker 4: And if he's in mobile and not willing to go
Speaker 4: out there, then Brian Floora is gonna definitely try and
Speaker 4: heat him up to see if he can get him
Speaker 4: on the move or to get him under the rest.
Speaker 2: So everybody's unique in terms of the way they have
Speaker 2: their blitz packages and what Vance Joseph did against the
Speaker 2: Jets was awfully effective. You're talking about Flores as well,
Speaker 2: how creative he is with the blitz packages. Right now,
Speaker 2: what is Rogers gonna be facing when he gets off
Speaker 2: the bus in London. You said they're gonna bring the
Speaker 2: pressure packages. But how different is it gonna look to Denver?
Speaker 2: How similar does it look to the Broncos.
Speaker 4: I think it's similar, right, I mean, if it's if
Speaker 4: somebody shows that they struggle with something in his League.
Speaker 4: If it wasn't a blitz package that you had, you're
Speaker 4: gonna throw it in. Now, those business was from the
Speaker 4: outside overload blitzes simulated cover zeros, and some of them
Speaker 4: were cover zeros. They were forcing the ball out quickly
Speaker 4: and saying that, hey, we can hold up on the
Speaker 4: back end. Now, on the other hand, Bryan Flores doesn't
Speaker 4: have a Patrick Chotan. I mean, he has Stefan Gilmour,
Speaker 4: but that team struggles on the back end a little
Speaker 4: bit more so. I would say that when you look
Speaker 4: at the way that they're going to try and go
Speaker 4: about business, maybe they play a zone behind the number
Speaker 4: one receiver. I have to see a lot more Mike Williams.
Speaker 4: Mike Williams has been the most consistent receiver that we've had.
Speaker 4: I think he can be the difference. I think it's
Speaker 4: gonna be opportunities in cover zero when you have to
Speaker 4: throw up contested balls one on one.
Speaker 3: He's shown that he can go up above the defender
Speaker 3: and make those plays.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you just mentioned Mike Williams because offensively
Speaker 2: he stood out. I know the Jets limited the three
Speaker 2: field goals, but not only did he have the catches
Speaker 2: in his yards per catch was up there, and that's that's.
Speaker 1: What we expect from a guy like Mike Williams.
Speaker 2: But he also has a knack for drawing penalties down
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know guys, you know Aaron Rodgers, when
Speaker 4: he sees the defender above, he throws it back shoulder.
Speaker 4: If he sees him underneath, he's gonna throw it up
Speaker 4: and Mike Williams is gonna jump up and guy's gonna
Speaker 4: run into him.
Speaker 3: I mean that's the weapon as well.
Speaker 4: Right, he's one of the best vertical receivers in the game,
Speaker 4: but I think he offers so much more. We saw
Speaker 4: some horizontal rowles using his speed getting guys on his
Speaker 4: back with a huge catch rate. Is he's gonna be
Speaker 4: pivotal for the success of this team, you know, as
Speaker 4: Garret Wilson's gonna draw the number one. Like I said,
Speaker 4: this week, Garrett's not facing you know McDuffie. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, sneady, He's not facing Patrick's Artan, So he
Speaker 4: should have more opportunities this week.
Speaker 3: But the more and more Mike Williams gets comfortable, the.
Speaker 4: More and more I believe it allows you to be
Speaker 4: able to put a guy like Gary Wilson in a
Speaker 4: slot and be able to utilize him in some his abilities.
Speaker 4: So just imagine how big you are on the outside,
Speaker 4: but you're still vertical. But then now you have a
Speaker 4: guy on Garrett who can go vertical as well, but
Speaker 4: also run in immediate routes.
Speaker 1: That's what I was just gonna ask you.
Speaker 2: It seems like Allen Wizard is a different player being
Speaker 2: reunited with Aaron Rodgers, and now we're seeing Williams take steps.
Speaker 2: So you want to see more G five Garrett Wilson
Speaker 2: in the slot as we move ahet it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the best natural position for him
Speaker 4: right now here to get him away from the number one,
Speaker 4: number two corner nless they're matching. If they're matching, you know,
Speaker 4: it gives them two way goals and also the ability
Speaker 4: to go across the field as well behind the linebackers.
Speaker 4: And like I said, I see Garrett Wilson as a
Speaker 4: very similar skill set to Ceedee Lamp.
Speaker 3: So I think you should utilize them in all those ways.
Speaker 3: I don't mind.
Speaker 4: Putting them in the backfield and allow him to run
Speaker 4: his route from the backfield as well.
Speaker 2: Small sample size, but four games. Now, after the Jets
Speaker 2: play against the Vikings in London, they're going to be
Speaker 2: done with more than twenty five percent of their season.
Speaker 2: That's their fifth game already. What have you seen from
Speaker 2: Rogers big pitcher, not just this game, but now through
Speaker 2: four games.
Speaker 3: I mean, I saw a guy that's the commandity offense.
Speaker 4: Now, I would like to see the offense be more
Speaker 4: creative for some shift motions and you see some of
Speaker 4: these themes going on in the league, Like every year
Speaker 4: it's a theme where it's a new package, a new
Speaker 4: type of formation. I mean, we saw yesterday the Baltimore
Speaker 4: Ravens with two tight ends like a diamond set, you know,
Speaker 4: with a like a wing t type of set.
Speaker 3: We've seen that with the Kansas City Chiefs as well,
Speaker 3: doing the same thing.
Speaker 4: We've seen like some of the inverted, you know, tight
Speaker 4: ends across the board. We saw how that run was
Speaker 4: blocked with Derek Hemery yesterday on an eighty seventh yard run.
Speaker 3: You got to you gotta stay with the times and stay.
Speaker 4: With the motions and the shifts and motions, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Because you have to hit the refresh
Speaker 4: button because the defenses are so good offenses down this year,
Speaker 4: and you have to make sure that you are just
Speaker 4: because the defenses adjusted and found way to shut down
Speaker 4: certain concepts olo fashion.
Speaker 2: You know, the first round pick out of Penn State
Speaker 2: made his first career start. I know the line had
Speaker 2: some issues with the pressure. Rogers the sack five times
Speaker 2: in all fourteen quarterback kids.
Speaker 1: Without you going back.
Speaker 2: And watching every rap, what did you make of all
Speaker 2: those first start No.
Speaker 3: I thought it started as well good.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, he made some staints like everybody made,
Speaker 4: but I thought he was on his details, understanding when
Speaker 4: there was some line stunts, some mind games, and for
Speaker 4: him to do it on the right side is you know, impressive.
Speaker 4: I mean I think, you know, when when Morgan Moses
Speaker 4: comes back, I think it'd be opportunities to kind of
Speaker 4: give tyron a break at times, you know what I
Speaker 4: mean during the game, so that you know, we saw
Speaker 4: last year with Ronnie Staley, the Ravens kind of rotated
Speaker 4: them in and out, kind of keep him fresh because
Speaker 4: you don't want the miles to add up on him.
Speaker 4: You want him to stay healthy. So I think, you know,
Speaker 4: fashions going in and showing that he can do that
Speaker 4: gives the sugar the Jets confidence that you know, he
Speaker 4: going forward, he can be able to you know, fill
Speaker 4: in and swing on both sides, to kind of come
Speaker 4: in and even be that extra tight end as well.
Speaker 4: I think the Jets have to get into that extra
Speaker 4: linement type of package as well to be able to
Speaker 4: handle some of these overhang blitzes and give like the
Speaker 4: three receivers, you know, opportunities to be able to stay
Speaker 4: in and also be.
Speaker 3: Able to go out and run the deep routes to
Speaker 3: the long concepts.
Speaker 1: All right, what's happening with the run game right now?
Speaker 2: I thought that we have a pregame show and I
Speaker 2: said one of my tomorrow's headlines was gonna be killer
Speaker 2: Bees stinging the Broncos because I thought Breese Hall and
Speaker 2: Braylan Allen, we're gonna have a big game against the
Speaker 2: Broncos that didn't actually come to fruition as we all know.
Speaker 1: And then another side of the coin.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess, let's handle offense and then we'll
Speaker 2: get to defense and what they're gonna see from Aaron
Speaker 2: Jones this week.
Speaker 1: But why is the run game? It's not consistent yet.
Speaker 2: You haven't seen it, and especially in a game where
Speaker 2: the rain was coming down yesterday in clement weather. Sometimes
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks were off with the throws. Why were they
Speaker 2: Jets not able to get that push?
Speaker 4: I mean they were trying to run latterly, and that's
Speaker 4: not the recipe to run lotterly and that type of conditions.
Speaker 4: That's why Braylyn Allen had more success. You I would
Speaker 4: have liked to see them go to more of a.
Speaker 3: Power running game. Doubles. You know John Simpson last year,
Speaker 3: that's all he ran with Baltimore.
Speaker 4: I would have liked to see him being a pulling
Speaker 4: guard and getting on the other side and adding to
Speaker 4: the strong side and running downhill. If you look at
Speaker 4: the success that the Broncos had, it was running the
Speaker 4: ball through the A and B gaps because it's too
Speaker 4: slippery to try and get to the edges and run latterly.
Speaker 4: The weather conditions didn't allow that. So I would have
Speaker 4: liked to see Breese run more up the field inside
Speaker 4: the tackles with the shoulder square. I mean you got
Speaker 4: to understand, listen, this is a team that's been embarrassed
Speaker 4: twice by Bree Hall. They made sure that when he
Speaker 4: was in there, they blitzed everybody and saying, hey, we're
Speaker 4: not gonna get beat by him having an explosive run game,
Speaker 4: because that was more important to giving up a big
Speaker 4: bomb because he has had it supposed to six runs
Speaker 4: and sixty yards I believe twice.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: Can you get the teams out of the blitz?
Speaker 2: What's the best way of getting teams out of the
Speaker 2: because the Jets are gonna see it again against Minnesota
Speaker 2: and that's part of their DNA, and that's part of
Speaker 2: Denver's DNA.
Speaker 1: I think Denver was leading the NFL.
Speaker 3: Second second every second in the league in Blitzer percentage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm understand why the Jets was surprised.
Speaker 2: So okay, but moving ahead to Minnesota, you know it's coming.
Speaker 1: Yep, you know it's coming. Give me some blitz beaters.
Speaker 2: And also, how can you get to a point where, hey,
Speaker 2: Brian Flores, I know you want to come, but if
Speaker 2: you come, we're gonna hurt you and you're gonna want
Speaker 2: to get out of the blitz.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you have you have screens, you have routes, right,
Speaker 4: you have you know, if you're keeping the running back
Speaker 4: in like you you free swing him and run traffic,
Speaker 4: so somebody gets picked. The linebacker from the inside gets picked.
Speaker 4: You know, you you thought you throw vertical shots. You know,
Speaker 4: we saw that with Jaydon Daias the week before. You know,
Speaker 4: when you come with cover zero, you throw it up there.
Speaker 4: You know, guys panic cover zero. You know, the quarterback
Speaker 4: has a retreat and by time to be able to
Speaker 4: get the ball up. You know, because guys are cover
Speaker 4: zero with no help. You have to be able to
Speaker 4: do things like that. You have to have a plan
Speaker 4: for it because if you don't, they're gonna get explosives
Speaker 4: every time because you can't block them all.
Speaker 2: Is it reassuring to you that you do have a
Speaker 2: full time NFL MVP at quarterback, meaning that, hey, if
Speaker 2: anybody's gonna panic in the locker room, it's not gonna
Speaker 2: be him.
Speaker 4: No, I don't expect Aaron Rodgers to panic. I mean
Speaker 4: you still listen only one game behind. I mean, like
Speaker 4: like I said before, I said on get up, and nobody.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody thought I was being a homer when
Speaker 4: I said that. You know, Buffalo's paper chaps, like they
Speaker 4: don't have the horse power. They have to play a
Speaker 4: certain way. So I believe, like you know, if you
Speaker 4: set yourself up, you have to earn the right to
Speaker 4: be able to play for first place.
Speaker 3: And you play for first place by.
Speaker 4: Beating Minnesota and then on Monday Night football beating you know,
Speaker 4: beating another world class opponent. If you want to be
Speaker 4: considered that, if you want people to take you seriously,
Speaker 4: if you're going to take yourself seriously, you got to
Speaker 4: find a way to beat these guys. And it's going
Speaker 4: to be a dogfight, but you got to be mentally tough.
Speaker 4: You got to make the players. I mean, it's enough
Speaker 4: stars on this on this team, they have to start acting.
Speaker 1: Like it interesting.
Speaker 2: What a landscape the next two weeks, not only for
Speaker 2: the Jets, but the Bills, the team they're chasing. Because
Speaker 2: Buffalo's got a tough road game ahead against the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2: That's probably one of those fifty to fifty games. The
Speaker 2: Jets are gonna be viewed as the underdog heading into
Speaker 2: this game against the Vikings, but when you look at
Speaker 2: the personnel, I'd say this is a fifty to fifty
Speaker 2: game as well. So listen, if the Jets come home,
Speaker 2: get a victory and maybe the Bills lose to Houston,
Speaker 2: I mean then you're both sitting there at three and
Speaker 2: two and you got them coming to your building. So
Speaker 2: a lot could change here over the next fourteen days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 4: But that's why once again, it's such a disappointment that
Speaker 4: you lost to a team that you shouldn't have lost to.
Speaker 3: Because if the Bills, if the Bills.
Speaker 4: Beat the beat you know, Denver, or beat the teams
Speaker 4: they're supposed to beat, and then you know they split
Speaker 4: with the good teams and you split with them, then
Speaker 4: you know they win the division.
Speaker 3: This division is wide open, man, Like you gotta quit
Speaker 3: playing it.
Speaker 4: And sometimes young kids because it's a relatively a bunch
Speaker 4: of young guys. You know, they don't have a sense
Speaker 4: of urgency that veterans do. This is Tyrone's last rodeo.
Speaker 4: Probably this is almost Aaron Rodgers last rodeo. Like, you
Speaker 4: gotta take that type of stuff seriously, man, that you yeah,
Speaker 4: you have time, but maybe your teammate don't. So let's
Speaker 4: be on our details and let's let's make sure that
Speaker 4: we step our game up and play with the level
Speaker 4: of desperation because one day you're gonna be the veteran
Speaker 4: and it's gonna you don't want young kids saying my
Speaker 4: bad and making mistakes when it's your time to exit
Speaker 4: this league.
Speaker 2: Do you think you played in a different era. I'm
Speaker 2: not calling you all, bro, but you did play it
Speaker 2: a different era. Is it tough you think for the
Speaker 2: young guys? Maybe at certain times too, you know, hunker
Speaker 2: down and get off social media, don't worry about what
Speaker 2: the outside world is saying, and just say, you know,
Speaker 2: come to work and take care of business.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Well that's you know, I mean, they'll still check it out.
Speaker 4: I'm sure they're they're avoiding the TV. They don't want
Speaker 4: to watch get up and get up and first take.
Speaker 4: And you know the Fox shows are on TV, and
Speaker 4: the and and the see everybody want to sit down
Speaker 4: and watch those. When you win, inside inside the lunch room,
Speaker 4: everybody watching TV. Then nobody wants to watch it when
Speaker 4: you lose. And you know they're gonna hear it. They're
Speaker 4: gonna hear from here because you know, they they've been
Speaker 4: a team that you know, people had high expectations for them,
Speaker 4: and that's and that and that comes with responsibility. And like, listen,
Speaker 4: if i'm these veterans, man, I'm putting these young guys aside,
Speaker 4: man and hold them accounta But the thing is, the
Speaker 4: young guys are the leaders on your team. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: your team goes as they go. You know, it's like,
Speaker 4: who's gonna put them guys aside and say we we
Speaker 4: we deserve more, we demand more. Like the time is now,
Speaker 4: this may be your best opportunity to win a championship.
Speaker 3: What you're gonna do with it?
Speaker 1: Sam Donald?
Speaker 2: Pair it up with Kevin O'Connell there with the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2: Got a great receiver in Justin Jefferson. We know that
Speaker 2: you mentioned Aaron Jones before.
Speaker 3: Why is its Addison's back too?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Addison. I like him as receiver. I mean,
Speaker 2: what do you Why is it clicking so well for Sam?
Speaker 2: And also how does O'Connell put so much pressure on
Speaker 2: opposing defenses?
Speaker 4: Because one, it starts with a great offensive line, right,
Speaker 4: So if you can't get pressure on Sam Donald, he
Speaker 4: feels confident, right, he feels secure, he's not getting hit.
Speaker 4: And then you know that same offensive line. Remember they
Speaker 4: don't even have t. J. Hockinson yet, right, the same
Speaker 4: offensive line. It's just all the schemes. You know, it's
Speaker 4: like going against San Francisco. It's like going against Miami.
Speaker 4: The run game. It puts pressure on you, It gets guys,
Speaker 4: It puts guys in situations where they have to make
Speaker 4: one on one tackles. And you know, when you have
Speaker 4: a violent runner like Aaron Jones who still has a
Speaker 4: lot of gas left them tank, right, Like, when you
Speaker 4: still have a guy like that, he's able to break
Speaker 4: things because he has great vision. Right, So everybody's gonna
Speaker 4: have to be on their details. No arm tackles. Guy's
Speaker 4: gotta get knocked them back. You can't be getting blown
Speaker 4: off the ball, right, They're gonna have to the Jets
Speaker 4: this This is gonna be a tough game. I mean,
Speaker 4: because like I said that, you're saying at DE tack
Speaker 4: you're small at D tackles. So if I'm any team,
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm running double teams working up to the
Speaker 4: linebackers because I'm saying, hey, they have fast, athletic linebackers,
Speaker 4: but they're still under two thirty.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, you never played Overseas, did you? Now if you
Speaker 2: might have played in Canada?
Speaker 3: Yah? Yeah, yeah I played Canada. I'm so thankful I
Speaker 3: never had to do that crap.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how would you approach this if you were
Speaker 1: a player.
Speaker 3: Coming off of loss. I'll tell my family don't call me.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not just that, but I'm saying playing in London,
Speaker 2: I think the Jets have practiced, this is Thursday, gonna
Speaker 2: fly overnight. I'm going with the team. I think we
Speaker 2: get there Friday morning. They'll get a couple of hours
Speaker 2: and then they have a practice. Is it different you
Speaker 2: think than going to the West Coast.
Speaker 3: Not not, but it's just about a six hour flight
Speaker 3: the same. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think the difference is instead of losing time, you're
Speaker 4: gaining time. So that's weird, right because now you get
Speaker 4: there and no matter what, depending if they leave after that,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be it's gonna be morning time.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's weird because like you, if you if you're
Speaker 4: leaving at the practice on Thursday, you're flying out at six,
Speaker 4: it's already six o'clock, it's already twelve o'clock midnight, yo,
Speaker 4: and in your destination. So as you get there, you're
Speaker 4: watching the sunrise and you're like, holdo, what.
Speaker 1: Yo? But how cool of an opportunity is that for
Speaker 1: the players?
Speaker 2: So to I know, you just want to win a
Speaker 2: football game, but big picture, going to another country, and
Speaker 2: I think the fans really gonna embrace NFL product.
Speaker 1: And this is a big game over there. Man, it's
Speaker 1: a big game for the Jets.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean to me, it's only great if you win,
Speaker 4: right Like at the day, like it's cool because your
Speaker 4: family wants to come and they want to have fun.
Speaker 4: But when you're coming off a loss, it's a business
Speaker 4: trip and I'm not in the mood to talk to anybody.
Speaker 4: I'm not in the mood to go hang out. I
Speaker 4: don't want to go see London. I'll go see London
Speaker 4: in March's February, March, April, May or something like that.
Speaker 3: So these are one of those tough games.
Speaker 4: You have to make sure that you're able to handle
Speaker 4: distractions and say, hey, listen, listen, you love your family
Speaker 4: and all that stuff, but you know, you guys need
Speaker 4: to go ahead and do what you need to do.
Speaker 4: But like, we might be able to eat lunch once,
Speaker 4: but I'm here on the business trip.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Lastly, let's un here. What do you think about the storyline?
Speaker 2: Your take on it that Aaron Rodgers here in his
Speaker 2: first full year starting for the New York Jets leading
Speaker 2: the Green and White against Sam Darnold, a former first
Speaker 2: round pick of course with the Jets, who's really rejuvenated
Speaker 2: and he's revitalized his career so far with the Bikes.
Speaker 3: I think it's a great story.
Speaker 4: But I don't think you know, Sam is coming here saying,
Speaker 4: oh man, they gave up on me, anything like that.
Speaker 4: I think Sam Donald's is focused because he knows he's
Speaker 4: not the long term solution here, so he's auditioning for
Speaker 4: probably about.
Speaker 3: Fifteen teams, you know.
Speaker 4: And I wouldn't be surprised if Sam Donald, like I
Speaker 4: said before, ends up back in this division with the
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins, because they're a team that's probably going to
Speaker 4: be looking for a quarterback. But Sam Donald's found something
Speaker 4: in this type of system. They run the same system,
Speaker 4: coming from the same coaching tree. So Sam Donald's focused
Speaker 4: on having the best single season that he can have
Speaker 4: so that he can have the opportunity, like Geno Smith,
Speaker 4: like Baker Mayfield, to find a place that he can
Speaker 4: call home again, because Minnesota isn't a home.
Speaker 3: He's just leasing his apartment. He's just leasing right now.
Speaker 2: Well, we know you're not leasing with your multiple properties
Speaker 2: out there, all right, Matt Backer, good stuff, great sing you,
Speaker 2: and we promised to get the pod up earlier in
Speaker 2: the week as we move ahead.
Speaker 3: Absolutely probably m h m
Speaker 1: Hm hmm