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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jests podcast.

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Speaker 2: Eric Allen here in the studio, joined by Bart Scott.

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Speaker 1: We've missed you of the last couple weeks.

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Speaker 3: Buddy, likewise, man, but it's good to be back. Man.

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Speaker 3: I think the world needs me today.

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Speaker 1: They do need you today.

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Speaker 2: Two and two after four games. That's where the New

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Speaker 2: York Jets stand. Bart, just one game out of the

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Speaker 2: AFC East lead, but obviously no joy in Mudville here

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Speaker 2: this morning after the Jets lose a very winnable game

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Speaker 2: to the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and now you have to hear all the

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Speaker 4: things that people say, you know what I mean, same

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Speaker 4: old Jets and all that stuff, because they opened the

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Speaker 4: door for that. Aaron Rodgers spoke to it earlier this

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Speaker 4: week about handling success. They came out and had a

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Speaker 4: flat game. Nobody cares about the elements, but that was

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Speaker 4: a lacklus to performance and the defense tried to hold

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Speaker 4: them in but you have to hold yourself accountable.

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Speaker 3: You have to get in there from the one yard line.

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Speaker 4: Those are things that if you want to be the

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Speaker 4: type of team that people believe you are, you close

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Speaker 4: the door on teams like the Denver Broncos. You find

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Speaker 4: ways to win no matter how tough it is, no

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Speaker 4: matter what the elements are, you just get it done,

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Speaker 4: especially at home.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think the message jeams should be

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Speaker 2: here at one Jets Drive today when Robert sala is

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Speaker 2: back in the building, probably didn't get much sleep last night,

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Speaker 2: and the players come back and get the regent.

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Speaker 4: Shut up and come to work like all the stuff

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Speaker 4: that we've been letting get if we've been letting anything

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Speaker 4: get away in practice, zero tolerance like you, because that's

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Speaker 4: what happens. Like this is still relatively a young team

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Speaker 4: and everybody's feeling good about themselves, and they show that

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Speaker 4: they lack the maturity to handle success. So now you

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Speaker 4: got to stay on them all the time, because if

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Speaker 4: you don't stay on them all the time, you have letups.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I know you hold yourself to a

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Speaker 4: high standard on the defense side of the ball, but there's

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Speaker 4: no you can have a miscommunication when you clearly. You

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Speaker 4: could see Michael Carter clearly complaining to somebody that they

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Speaker 4: didn't get the communication or they didn't execute the call

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Speaker 4: because you had something in the back of the end

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Speaker 4: zone wide open. And that's the difference in the game.

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Speaker 3: You can play.

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Speaker 4: Nobody cares that you held you know, bow knicks, you

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Speaker 4: know to sixty yards passing. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: you gave up a play that was a big play

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Speaker 4: and you were put in an adverse situation.

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Speaker 3: But so what, That's what you get paid the big

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Speaker 3: books for.

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Speaker 2: So when you watch that game, you have a lot

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Speaker 2: of memories of playing similar games yourself right now, where

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Speaker 2: the defense is put in bad position, but they give

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Speaker 2: I thought there was just multiple times where the Jets

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Speaker 2: could have took advantage of that game. And you mentioned

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Speaker 2: that first half opportunity where Rogers gets out of the

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Speaker 2: and then you have three shots. It was going to

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Speaker 4: There, right, That's what you talk about the self inflicted wounds.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen penalties that can't be acceptable. You have to be

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Speaker 4: a clean game. You know, first of all, you have

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Speaker 4: to get let a team beat you. You shouldn't beat yourself.

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Speaker 4: And that's a self inflicted wound, and that's something you

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Speaker 4: and momentum is something, right, because you don't get that

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Speaker 4: So that's the difference, right, They feel like they can

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Speaker 3: They were able to run the ball down your throat.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was strange to me that last week

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Speaker 4: we were forty percent blitz, but then we would blitz

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Speaker 3: You know, So they got to go.

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Speaker 4: Back to the drawing board because guess what, Minnesota is

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Speaker 4: going to play a similar way. They have a more

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Speaker 4: play with your food, you play up to your competition

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just have to make this want a blip

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Speaker 2: we talk about the false starts.

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Speaker 1: You had five, but it's not like that was the

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Speaker 2: There were fifteen and all called against the Jets, thirteen

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Speaker 2: I would imagine if you're down there in the locker room,

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Speaker 2: just gotta play more disciplined football, starting with Sunday in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you have to play a clean game

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Speaker 3: So I mean they'll they'll embarrass you.

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Speaker 4: The team that beat you the first week, they dominated,

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Speaker 4: they're proven against tough competition, right they They they've got.

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Speaker 3: Good wins on their on their record. You know. The

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Speaker 3: You know this.

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Speaker 4: So this is a step up in class and they

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Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I know you're keeping it real. I gotta

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Speaker 2: On the bright side of things, I thought Quincy Williams

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Speaker 3: Yeah they were. I mean they played at a high level.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, they can't get

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Speaker 3: More difficult for the quarterback being for the linebackers.

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Speaker 4: So they have to figure out, you know, you have

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Speaker 4: don't have Quentin Jefferson, You're missing a lot of guys.

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Speaker 4: You don't have a lot of size in the middle

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Speaker 4: right like Quinn should be like the second biggest guy.

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Speaker 3: You need a big fatty there, but you don't have that.

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Speaker 4: So if you don't have that and teams are doing

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Speaker 3: Right. If you're going to do that, you have to

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Speaker 4: All they did was run blitz us and they put

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Speaker 4: and they just run blitzed to death. I mean, Aaron

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Speaker 1: We're taping this on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Bart Robert Salad just talked to the media a little

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Speaker 2: bit ago. He said that Lucky Fotu, the defensive tackle

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Speaker 2: the Jets sign a free agency, might be one of

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Speaker 2: From what you're saying, this would be right in time

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Speaker 4: I mean you have to, like, you know, the strength

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Speaker 4: Hector came from a practice squad. You know, sometimes it

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Speaker 3: Can't be any slip off.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the standard, Aaron Rodgers and games he started

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Speaker 1: Not score an offensive touchdown.

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Speaker 2: He's been playing a lot of football, and I believe

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Speaker 2: two of those games he did not finish. What do

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Speaker 4: you know, and that's supposed to be with arguably one

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Speaker 4: You got to be on your details right. You got

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Speaker 3: And guy's got to be on their details because it's

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Speaker 4: Because Aaron Rodgers because of it, it seemed like he

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Speaker 3: Can make him immobile.

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Speaker 3: So I think you should utilize them in all those ways.

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Speaker 4: Putting them in the backfield and allow him to run

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Speaker 4: No, I don't expect Aaron Rodgers to panic. I mean

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Speaker 4: Beating Minnesota and then on Monday Night football beating you know,

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Speaker 1: Like it interesting.

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Speaker 2: What a landscape the next two weeks, not only for

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Speaker 2: the Jets, but the Bills, the team they're chasing. Because

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's got a tough road game ahead against the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: That's probably one of those fifty to fifty games. The

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Speaker 2: Jets are gonna be viewed as the underdog heading into

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Speaker 2: this game against the Vikings, but when you look at

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Speaker 2: the personnel, I'd say this is a fifty to fifty

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Speaker 2: game as well. So listen, if the Jets come home,

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Speaker 2: get a victory and maybe the Bills lose to Houston,

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Speaker 2: I mean then you're both sitting there at three and

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Speaker 2: two and you got them coming to your building. So

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Speaker 2: a lot could change here over the next fourteen days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why.

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Speaker 4: But that's why once again, it's such a disappointment that

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Speaker 4: you lost to a team that you shouldn't have lost to.

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Speaker 3: Because if the Bills, if the Bills.

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Speaker 4: Beat the beat you know, Denver, or beat the teams

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Speaker 4: they're supposed to beat, and then you know they split

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Speaker 4: with the good teams and you split with them, then

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Speaker 4: you know they win the division.

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Speaker 3: This division is wide open, man, Like you gotta quit

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Speaker 3: playing it.

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Speaker 4: And sometimes young kids because it's a relatively a bunch

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Speaker 4: of young guys. You know, they don't have a sense

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Speaker 4: of urgency that veterans do. This is Tyrone's last rodeo.

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Speaker 4: Probably this is almost Aaron Rodgers last rodeo. Like, you

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Speaker 4: gotta take that type of stuff seriously, man, that you yeah,

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Speaker 4: you have time, but maybe your teammate don't. So let's

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Speaker 4: be on our details and let's let's make sure that

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Speaker 4: we step our game up and play with the level

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Speaker 4: of desperation because one day you're gonna be the veteran

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Speaker 4: and it's gonna you don't want young kids saying my

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Speaker 4: bad and making mistakes when it's your time to exit

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Speaker 4: this league.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you played in a different era. I'm

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Speaker 2: not calling you all, bro, but you did play it

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Speaker 2: a different era. Is it tough you think for the

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Speaker 2: young guys? Maybe at certain times too, you know, hunker

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Speaker 2: down and get off social media, don't worry about what

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Speaker 2: the outside world is saying, and just say, you know,

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Speaker 2: come to work and take care of business.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Well that's you know, I mean, they'll still check it out.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they're they're avoiding the TV. They don't want

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Speaker 4: to watch get up and get up and first take.

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Speaker 4: And you know the Fox shows are on TV, and

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Speaker 4: the and and the see everybody want to sit down

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Speaker 4: and watch those. When you win, inside inside the lunch room,

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Speaker 4: everybody watching TV. Then nobody wants to watch it when

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Speaker 4: you lose. And you know they're gonna hear it. They're

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Speaker 4: gonna hear from here because you know, they they've been

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Speaker 4: a team that you know, people had high expectations for them,

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Speaker 4: and that's and that and that comes with responsibility. And like, listen,

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Speaker 4: if i'm these veterans, man, I'm putting these young guys aside,

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Speaker 4: man and hold them accounta But the thing is, the

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Speaker 4: young guys are the leaders on your team. Yeah, so

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Speaker 4: your team goes as they go. You know, it's like,

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Speaker 4: who's gonna put them guys aside and say we we

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Speaker 4: we deserve more, we demand more. Like the time is now,

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Speaker 4: this may be your best opportunity to win a championship.

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Speaker 3: What you're gonna do with it?

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald?

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Speaker 2: Pair it up with Kevin O'Connell there with the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 2: Got a great receiver in Justin Jefferson. We know that

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Speaker 2: you mentioned Aaron Jones before.

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Speaker 3: Why is its Addison's back too?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan Addison. I like him as receiver. I mean,

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Speaker 2: what do you Why is it clicking so well for Sam?

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Speaker 2: And also how does O'Connell put so much pressure on

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Speaker 2: opposing defenses?

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Speaker 4: Because one, it starts with a great offensive line, right,

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Speaker 4: So if you can't get pressure on Sam Donald, he

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Speaker 4: feels confident, right, he feels secure, he's not getting hit.

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Speaker 4: And then you know that same offensive line. Remember they

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Speaker 4: don't even have t. J. Hockinson yet, right, the same

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Speaker 4: offensive line. It's just all the schemes. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: like going against San Francisco. It's like going against Miami.

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Speaker 4: The run game. It puts pressure on you, It gets guys,

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Speaker 4: It puts guys in situations where they have to make

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Speaker 4: one on one tackles. And you know, when you have

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Speaker 4: a violent runner like Aaron Jones who still has a

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Speaker 4: lot of gas left them tank, right, Like, when you

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Speaker 4: still have a guy like that, he's able to break

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Speaker 4: things because he has great vision. Right, So everybody's gonna

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Speaker 4: have to be on their details. No arm tackles. Guy's

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Speaker 4: gotta get knocked them back. You can't be getting blown

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Speaker 4: off the ball, right, They're gonna have to the Jets

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Speaker 4: this This is gonna be a tough game. I mean,

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Speaker 4: because like I said that, you're saying at DE tack

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Speaker 4: you're small at D tackles. So if I'm any team,

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Speaker 4: I'm just I'm running double teams working up to the

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Speaker 4: linebackers because I'm saying, hey, they have fast, athletic linebackers,

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Speaker 4: but they're still under two thirty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, you never played Overseas, did you? Now if you

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Speaker 2: might have played in Canada?

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Speaker 3: Yah? Yeah, yeah I played Canada. I'm so thankful I

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Speaker 3: never had to do that crap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So how would you approach this if you were

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Speaker 1: a player.

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Speaker 3: Coming off of loss. I'll tell my family don't call me.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, not just that, but I'm saying playing in London,

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Speaker 2: I think the Jets have practiced, this is Thursday, gonna

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Speaker 2: fly overnight. I'm going with the team. I think we

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Speaker 2: get there Friday morning. They'll get a couple of hours

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Speaker 2: and then they have a practice. Is it different you

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Speaker 2: think than going to the West Coast.

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Speaker 3: Not not, but it's just about a six hour flight

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Speaker 3: the same. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think the difference is instead of losing time, you're

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Speaker 4: gaining time. So that's weird, right because now you get

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Speaker 4: there and no matter what, depending if they leave after that,

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Speaker 4: it's gonna be it's gonna be morning time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So it's weird because like you, if you if you're

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Speaker 4: leaving at the practice on Thursday, you're flying out at six,

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Speaker 4: it's already six o'clock, it's already twelve o'clock midnight, yo,

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Speaker 4: and in your destination. So as you get there, you're

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Speaker 4: watching the sunrise and you're like, holdo, what.

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Speaker 1: Yo? But how cool of an opportunity is that for

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Speaker 1: the players?

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Speaker 2: So to I know, you just want to win a

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Speaker 2: football game, but big picture, going to another country, and

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Speaker 2: I think the fans really gonna embrace NFL product.

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Speaker 1: And this is a big game over there. Man, it's

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Speaker 1: a big game for the Jets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean to me, it's only great if you win,

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Speaker 4: right Like at the day, like it's cool because your

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Speaker 4: family wants to come and they want to have fun.

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Speaker 4: But when you're coming off a loss, it's a business

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Speaker 4: trip and I'm not in the mood to talk to anybody.

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Speaker 4: I'm not in the mood to go hang out. I

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Speaker 4: don't want to go see London. I'll go see London

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Speaker 4: in March's February, March, April, May or something like that.

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Speaker 3: So these are one of those tough games.

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Speaker 4: You have to make sure that you're able to handle

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Speaker 4: distractions and say, hey, listen, listen, you love your family

580
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Speaker 4: and all that stuff, but you know, you guys need

581
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Speaker 4: to go ahead and do what you need to do.

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Speaker 4: But like, we might be able to eat lunch once,

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Speaker 4: but I'm here on the business trip.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Lastly, let's un here. What do you think about the storyline?

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Speaker 2: Your take on it that Aaron Rodgers here in his

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Speaker 2: first full year starting for the New York Jets leading

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Speaker 2: the Green and White against Sam Darnold, a former first

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Speaker 2: round pick of course with the Jets, who's really rejuvenated

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Speaker 2: and he's revitalized his career so far with the Bikes.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great story.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think you know, Sam is coming here saying,

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Speaker 4: oh man, they gave up on me, anything like that.

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Speaker 4: I think Sam Donald's is focused because he knows he's

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Speaker 4: not the long term solution here, so he's auditioning for

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Speaker 4: probably about.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen teams, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I wouldn't be surprised if Sam Donald, like I

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Speaker 4: said before, ends up back in this division with the

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Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins, because they're a team that's probably going to

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Speaker 4: be looking for a quarterback. But Sam Donald's found something

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Speaker 4: in this type of system. They run the same system,

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Speaker 4: coming from the same coaching tree. So Sam Donald's focused

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Speaker 4: on having the best single season that he can have

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Speaker 4: so that he can have the opportunity, like Geno Smith,

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Speaker 4: like Baker Mayfield, to find a place that he can

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Speaker 4: call home again, because Minnesota isn't a home.

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Speaker 3: He's just leasing his apartment. He's just leasing right now.

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Speaker 2: Well, we know you're not leasing with your multiple properties

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Speaker 2: out there, all right, Matt Backer, good stuff, great sing you,

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Speaker 2: and we promised to get the pod up earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week as we move ahead.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely probably m h m

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Speaker 1: Hm hmm