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Speaker 1: No allows, no, how you doing, bro feeling good?
Speaker 4: Feeling good? What's popping?
Speaker 3: I'm good. Let's get right into it.
Speaker 1: That race leading into it, you ran your fastest time
Speaker 1: leading that Diamond League meet.
Speaker 3: I think you ran nine to eighty one.
Speaker 1: You know, Kashane Thompson has run nine seven seven, and
Speaker 1: everybody's talking that's the man to beat, that's the man
Speaker 1: to beat. And you had never run sub nine to
Speaker 1: eight to run it in the finals when you absolutely
Speaker 1: had the habit, Tell me what was your strategy going
Speaker 1: into that race and how were you able to pull
Speaker 1: it off?
Speaker 5: To be honest, I have many strategies. They all kind
Speaker 5: of you know, we're thrown out the window, so closer
Speaker 5: and closer we got to the finals. You know, in
Speaker 5: the first round, I'm like, okay, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: work on my first sixty. I'm gonna get out, but
Speaker 5: you know, you know I have add so my brain
Speaker 5: is working on overdrive. It's like, well, we could we
Speaker 5: could get out easy and then hit it hard, or
Speaker 5: we can get it hard and then shut it down,
Speaker 5: or we could run fast all the way. And the
Speaker 5: problem was I thought too much and then I underestimated
Speaker 5: my competition. It's like, no, see, now you had to
Speaker 5: you messed up. I'm like, all right, all right, I
Speaker 5: need to call my brain down. I needed to get it.
Speaker 4: Set on one goal. So we get to the semifinals.
Speaker 5: Now I'm like, all right, aggression, mindset, power, everything like that.
Speaker 4: And it produced, you know, a really good time eighty three.
Speaker 5: You know, it tied again my second pass of time,
Speaker 5: which was my pr before London. So I'm like, all right,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm good. I'm good, but you know I
Speaker 5: feel I can go even faster. You know, I didn't
Speaker 5: want to get beat, you know, So here I am
Speaker 5: coming getting second in the semos.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know, what's going on?
Speaker 5: So my my therapist calls me and she's like, you're
Speaker 5: running with aggressing. You're running with a Noah, that is
Speaker 5: not you. And I'm like Okay, fair enough that that's
Speaker 5: not me. You know that that's an older way of thinking.
Speaker 5: That's just not how I run. It's like, you need
Speaker 5: to run free, need to run with no pressure, just
Speaker 5: go out there and run. And I'm like, all right, cool,
Speaker 5: that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go out there
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna just run. And she said if you
Speaker 5: control the crowd, you control the race. And I know,
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, shoot.
Speaker 4: That's that's how I do. I'm gonna show me. That's
Speaker 4: that's what I do.
Speaker 5: You know, if that's all that takes, I'm gonna win
Speaker 5: the race. But we get you know, we're getting out there,
Speaker 5: I'm just like, just be me, Just be me, Just
Speaker 5: be me. We get out there and you know, they're
Speaker 5: doing the intros and you know, Kashane comes down Kashane.
Speaker 4: He ends up yelling and I'm like, oh, hold on,
Speaker 4: that's that's me. But I didn't hold it for it.
Speaker 5: I liked it though, because I love to see more
Speaker 5: personalities come up than just look at the camera say hi,
Speaker 5: walk out. It's like, nah, Noah, bring that energy, like
Speaker 5: get me excited to run. So you know, there's another
Speaker 5: YouTube video that NBC put out where it's like you
Speaker 5: can see us in the back of the car room,
Speaker 5: you know, Fred and.
Speaker 4: On the side, you know, banging on the wall.
Speaker 5: It's like, let's go, you know, cause Shane's doing his yelling.
Speaker 5: I'm over here singing dreams the nightmarees. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: this this is an Olympic, this is an Olympic Finals.
Speaker 5: So you know, I go out, I'm jumping around, I'm
Speaker 5: running past the cameras, I'm yelling at the crowd and
Speaker 5: they over here like yeah excited. I'm like, yeah, this
Speaker 5: is this is my race now. And you know, from
Speaker 5: that point on, it was just repeating, you know, you know,
Speaker 5: God got me, God got me, got me. Because at
Speaker 5: this point, I've done everything that I need to do
Speaker 5: to win this race. Everything that I need to do
Speaker 5: has been done in months in advance. You know, we're
Speaker 5: already here. Now it's just a believing in myself that
Speaker 5: it's gonna get done. And it's not about running fast times.
Speaker 5: It's about running to win. The times will come when
Speaker 5: you to win.
Speaker 1: So you go out there and your reaction time isn't
Speaker 1: bad because normally you're like your your reaction time is
Speaker 1: a little slow, but I think you knew. I really
Speaker 1: can't spot as Justin Gatlin says nine eight can't catch
Speaker 1: nine to eight if you give up too much cushion.
Speaker 1: So your reaction time wasn't that much behind him. I
Speaker 1: think he was zero point one seven six, and I
Speaker 1: think you were zero point one seven eight and so,
Speaker 1: so you're really close. But you know you got the
Speaker 1: top end. You got four hundred meters strength, you got
Speaker 1: two hundred meters strength strength, So you've had to feel
Speaker 1: good if I'm close to this joker at fifty sixty meters,
Speaker 1: I can get home.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew.
Speaker 5: I knew how I had a good lane. When I
Speaker 5: saw Oblique Seville was gonna be next to me, I'm like,
Speaker 5: that's the guy who's been beating me. He's beat me
Speaker 5: twice already. I know, I know his strengths. I know
Speaker 5: where he's gonna try and and go on me. And
Speaker 5: the problem I feel is every time that's I've been
Speaker 5: too many lanes away to see when he makes that move.
Speaker 5: So I'm like, now that I got you right next
Speaker 5: to me, I know where you're gonna make your move,
Speaker 5: and I know I'm gonna make it as soon as
Speaker 5: you make yours, and you know, thankful he was there
Speaker 5: for that and I was able to do that. And
Speaker 5: a lot of people get stuck on this reaction time
Speaker 5: and like, oh he got out the block slow. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm a numbers guy. I look at every ten
Speaker 5: meter increment. I look at five minute increments, how fast
Speaker 5: I was to this part of the race, how fast
Speaker 5: I was in this and at the end.
Speaker 4: In the beginning, So when.
Speaker 5: I'm looking back at the race, I'm looking at the numbers,
Speaker 5: the numbers are actually very normal for me. In the
Speaker 5: first ten meters, it was probably some of like it
Speaker 5: matches some of my fastest runs.
Speaker 4: The difference is everybody else said.
Speaker 5: I got to be better, I gotta be more, I
Speaker 5: got to be more than I've ever been before, and
Speaker 5: they did. But in the end of that race, they
Speaker 5: tired themselves out. So you saw a time that was
Speaker 5: not representative of their prs because they use so much
Speaker 5: energy trying to be that in the beginning of the race.
Speaker 5: But because I was, you know, already on par for
Speaker 5: what I normally do, I just put an extra bit
Speaker 5: on the end and it led me to run it faster.
Speaker 6: You know, it's so funny when I sit here and
Speaker 6: think about it, when I think about running one hundred meters, right,
Speaker 6: the margin of error is so small you can't make
Speaker 6: any mistakes. And if you do it, if you do
Speaker 6: make a mistake, whether it be in the start or
Speaker 6: depending on what phase of the race you do, make
Speaker 6: that mistake, in the chances of coming back. Since everybody
Speaker 6: is so fast and the race is so short, obviously
Speaker 6: only being nine seconds, how do you process the race
Speaker 6: when you have so many different runners against you? Are
Speaker 6: you racing more and so against them? Are you more
Speaker 6: so racing against yourself from a strategic standpoint.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a patient race. It's very patient. A lot
Speaker 5: of people think, you know, you just gas it from
Speaker 5: the get go. You can't do that.
Speaker 4: You know, there are many runners.
Speaker 5: Who are specialists in the sixty and then they come
Speaker 5: to one hundred and it's not always as representative. You
Speaker 5: don't see a transition, you know, to the hundred and
Speaker 5: even to two hundred. So, yeah, it's a patient race.
Speaker 5: And to answer your question on terms of athletes, you know,
Speaker 5: there's a confidence in yourself knowing that no matter who
Speaker 5: you race, you're gonna still do what you've been doing
Speaker 5: in practice. But there's also the confidence in yourself that says,
Speaker 5: I love to compete, and when somebody pulls on me,
Speaker 5: pulls up on me, or somebody gets out on me,
Speaker 5: I'm a captain.
Speaker 3: Yea.
Speaker 4: So it's it's it's a confidence thing.
Speaker 5: Now if you panic in that moment, it doesn't matter
Speaker 5: if you're racing the competitors or if you're saying, oh
Speaker 5: I had a bad reaction time, I'm out of the race.
Speaker 5: Now it's the confidence to say I'm gonna get myself
Speaker 5: back into the race or hold on, it's okay, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna reel them back in, you know, to catch them.
Speaker 5: Give me a few meters, don't tighten up, but I'm
Speaker 5: gonna get to you that.
Speaker 3: No, let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: I was hoping that you and Kashane was next to
Speaker 1: each other, because, like I said, I had we had
Speaker 1: Justin Gatlin on here, and we had Michael Johnson on
Speaker 1: before this race took And I said, the problem that
Speaker 1: I have is that he Kashane has never.
Speaker 3: Been on the global stage.
Speaker 1: I said, I understand the nine seven seven at the trials,
Speaker 1: but the Olympics and the world stage is something different.
Speaker 1: I say, if somebody can make him run the full
Speaker 1: hundred meters, we'll see if he can still hold that
Speaker 1: form when he's letting.
Speaker 3: Up at eighty meters.
Speaker 1: I think big Thread being next to him put him
Speaker 1: under the gun. He applied pressure from the beginning all
Speaker 1: the way to the end, and.
Speaker 3: If you look at his last eighty eight.
Speaker 1: The like fifteen twenty meters, that form started to break
Speaker 1: and that was your that was the door that you
Speaker 1: needed to open just enough for you to put a
Speaker 1: foot in and get eventually get your get your torso
Speaker 1: to the line of.
Speaker 4: Yay, I agree, it's very accurate.
Speaker 5: And another point to that is, you know a lot
Speaker 5: of people is like, oh, Kashane ran this time slowing down,
Speaker 5: slowing down, slowing down. And yes, it's very impressive that
Speaker 5: he ran those times slowing down, but unfortunately you never
Speaker 5: took your body to running full speed. So when now
Speaker 5: you need it at the end, it's it's a new
Speaker 5: it's a new world, and unfortunately you don't want to
Speaker 5: put yourself in a new world position in the Olympic final.
Speaker 5: But I do agree one hundred percent putting pressure on it. Fred,
Speaker 5: putting pressure on him definitely was a bonus to.
Speaker 3: Me, you know what, but go ahead, No, go ahead?
Speaker 7: Looking on, Hey the piggyback off.
Speaker 6: One of the key words that you said obviously being
Speaker 6: on an Olympic stage represent your country one hundred meters
Speaker 6: in Paris. Now you have experience running in big meets,
Speaker 6: You have experience being on the big stage.
Speaker 7: Does the pressure really affect you that much?
Speaker 6: And if it does affect you, what ways are you
Speaker 6: able to dodge it and suppress that pressure.
Speaker 7: To be able to go out there and run the
Speaker 7: race that you need to.
Speaker 5: The way that I view crowds and pressure. You know,
Speaker 5: my coach said something that I felt like really got
Speaker 5: to me. He said pressure can work in one of
Speaker 5: two ways. It can either boost you by twenty percent
Speaker 5: or it can tear you down by twenty percent.
Speaker 4: You decide how you want that twenty percent to go.
Speaker 5: If you say, this is my opportunity, this is my moment,
Speaker 5: this is what was made for me.
Speaker 4: That's a boost twenty percent.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: If you're going in saying, shoot, I've never raised these
Speaker 5: guys before. You know, I don't know if I could
Speaker 5: do this. You know, this is uncharted territory. You know
Speaker 5: what if I'm not prepared, what a bunch of what if?
Speaker 4: What if? What if?
Speaker 5: That's twenty percent less than you're going to underperforming. You
Speaker 5: know that's not the mindset you want going into that.
Speaker 5: And that's how I view competing. Every time I get
Speaker 5: to a big stage, I believe that this is a
Speaker 5: moment that God has prepared for me. You know, I
Speaker 5: put in the work.
Speaker 4: In the natural.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna believe that God put in the
Speaker 5: super and to put it together, we're going to create
Speaker 5: the supernatural.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's transition. You win the goal. You said, that's
Speaker 1: what you wanted to do. You wanted to win to go.
Speaker 1: There haven't been a whole lot of men, Noah, that
Speaker 1: have double when the hundred meter goal and the two
Speaker 1: hundred meter goal in the Olympics. We know what you saying,
Speaker 1: Boat there from eight to sixteen. He tripled up, Carl Lewis,
Speaker 1: he doubled up. But it's not been a whole lot
Speaker 1: of men to win both of those races. And so
Speaker 1: I know you got the hard part out the way.
Speaker 1: It was the most challenging event. What's going to be
Speaker 1: the hundred You are two hundred meter specialist kind of
Speaker 1: like you saying that turned yourself into a great one
Speaker 1: hundred meter runner. So now you get to the two hundred,
Speaker 1: when did you start to notice something like, damn, I'm
Speaker 1: coming down with something. I don't feel like, noah, my
Speaker 1: win is I'm not being able to breathe like I
Speaker 1: normally do.
Speaker 5: I'm to be honest, there were now looking back, there
Speaker 5: were signs the day of the finals of the hundred
Speaker 5: that I was like, this is taking too much energy
Speaker 5: to produce what I normally produce.
Speaker 4: But I just threw it to the side. And then
Speaker 4: I wake up the next day.
Speaker 5: So it's Monday now, after the finals, and I have
Speaker 5: a sore throat, and I'm just thinking, oh, okay, maybe
Speaker 5: I just cheered a little too much.
Speaker 4: Maybe I was yelling a little too much. Even though
Speaker 4: I didn't really feel like I was.
Speaker 5: I just you know, put it off to that because
Speaker 5: you know, I had a job to do, right.
Speaker 4: It wasn't until I woke up in the middle of
Speaker 4: the night on Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Morning and my body is aching, I'm chills, I'm I
Speaker 5: got a headache, my sinuses are running, my throat is
Speaker 5: super sore. I'm like, oh no, these are all the
Speaker 5: signs I get before I get COVID, and I said,
Speaker 5: I called up the doctor in that moment.
Speaker 4: I said, we need to test, we need.
Speaker 3: To tell you.
Speaker 1: So you've had COVID before, so you know the symptoms
Speaker 1: or the oncoming of it.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 4: Not only have I.
Speaker 5: Had COVID before, For the last two years, I have
Speaker 5: gotten COVID a week or the week of US Championships
Speaker 5: the last two years.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: So this is the first year that I didn't show
Speaker 5: up to US Championships with COVID or with just coming
Speaker 5: out of COVID. So I'm thinking, oh, I'm good. I'm
Speaker 5: not catching COVID this year. You know it's gonna be great.
Speaker 4: It is again the worst time in the worst time
Speaker 4: in the world.
Speaker 1: But you feel good. You going through the round, you
Speaker 1: feel fairly good. I think you dropped the bogo in
Speaker 1: the semis. Yeah, and you look nor you ran. I
Speaker 1: think you ran a nineteen fifty. I think he was
Speaker 1: in the race and he ran nineteen fifty seven. But
Speaker 1: it was a nip and tuck race.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no no, no, that wasn't that wasn't
Speaker 4: this me.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not saying that, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: you were in a race previously that you won the race.
Speaker 5: But Kenny, yeah, Kenny Iron ran Oh gosh, I can't
Speaker 5: remember if it's fifty three and he ran fifty seven
Speaker 5: or fifty six.
Speaker 4: It was at US Championships.
Speaker 3: Right now, but you raced to Bogo, so you know
Speaker 3: he has he has great.
Speaker 1: He's forty four, he's low forty four four in the
Speaker 1: four hundred, He's got nine sub ninety nine in the
Speaker 1: one hundred, so you know he probably on a good day,
Speaker 1: he probably can go sub nineteen six. Oh are you're
Speaker 1: probably thinking I'm probably gonna need to go sub nineteen six,
Speaker 1: maybe even nineteen five in order to win this, given
Speaker 1: the given who's.
Speaker 3: In this race. Correct.
Speaker 5: I wasn't even thinking about that, okay, because going into
Speaker 5: the meet, before I went over to London, I'm doing
Speaker 5: practices and I'm asking my coach what do I need
Speaker 5: to run to prove to you that I can break
Speaker 5: this world record into two hundred, and he tells me
Speaker 5: the time and I do it. So in my head
Speaker 5: I'm in world record shape.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: So it's not about the competitors, it's how well can
Speaker 5: I run my best race? Okay, But as soon as
Speaker 5: I get COVID I'm like, oh my gosh. Like now,
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to make sure that I get through
Speaker 5: every round. I'm that I'm gonna be able to be
Speaker 5: as fit as possible. And you know how I was
Speaker 5: talking about having a plan before you got it, before
Speaker 5: I got to the round. Yeah, I had a plan
Speaker 5: before I got to the two hundreds out the windows.
Speaker 3: Right, you threw it out and threw it out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm I'm right now. I'm just trying to get
Speaker 5: as healthy as possible. They put me on the medication,
Speaker 5: the COVID medication. Uh, and that stuff is amazing. I'll
Speaker 5: tell you. It's shorted. It supposedly gets rid of most
Speaker 5: of the symptoms, and it shortens the time period that
Speaker 5: you actually have COVID.
Speaker 4: That stuff is amazing.
Speaker 5: But of course still, you know, having asthma, it has
Speaker 5: an effect. So I'm just trying to go through, you know,
Speaker 5: warm ups, trying to get as normal as possible each round.
Speaker 5: But and in my head, I'm just and I'm trying
Speaker 5: to just throw away any negative thought that I have again,
Speaker 5: keeping that confidence in the idea of I'm going to
Speaker 5: go into this believing.
Speaker 4: That I'm in the best shape of my life.
Speaker 6: I like that this this is this is really dope
Speaker 6: and really fascinating, I mean obvious for me and listening
Speaker 6: to how you guys transition, Like when you think about
Speaker 6: the two undermeters, you think about the hundred meters, so
Speaker 6: you're two undimeter race. To me, I would think is
Speaker 6: a strategy and a mixture of speed and endurance. Is
Speaker 6: there a way you can break down the approach you
Speaker 6: take as opposed to the under meter and the way
Speaker 6: you approach the tournameter when it comes to strategy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say the in the one hundred. You know,
Speaker 5: the way that me and my coach breaking down is
Speaker 5: first to sixty and then you know that and then
Speaker 5: my top and speed will hit around eighty meters right,
Speaker 5: and then I'm just holding positions. If I try to
Speaker 5: run any faster after eighty meters, you know I'm likely
Speaker 5: to start breaking down in the two hundred. Is I
Speaker 5: feel that it's a constant building up I'm constantly just
Speaker 5: building up speed, building up speed, building up speed. I'm
Speaker 5: very conscious of where I'm positionally in the lane. I
Speaker 5: want to be in the middle of the lane to
Speaker 5: the middle outside, and then when I come from the
Speaker 5: turn to the straight, I moved straight to the middle
Speaker 5: or middle inside and slingshot and off of that. You
Speaker 5: can relate it to NASCAR, you know, they go come
Speaker 5: back to me very similar in the two hundred. I'm
Speaker 5: using that speed and then you know, just maintaining you know,
Speaker 5: upright running positions. You know, after a while, when you've
Speaker 5: run it so many times and you are striking the
Speaker 5: ground with straight legs directly underneath your hips, it's easy
Speaker 5: to run fast. It just feels like you're kicking. You're
Speaker 5: on a skateboard and you're just kicking, pushing it along.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Uh, that's the mindset that I kind of have as
Speaker 5: I'm running the two hundred, specifically, because it just keeps
Speaker 5: It's just momentum building and building and building.
Speaker 4: You don't really want it to slow down.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, that was not the strategy that I went in
Speaker 5: with in this two hundred, because I felt that throughout
Speaker 5: the whole rounds I had to constantly build up my
Speaker 5: energy just that.
Speaker 4: I can get to baseline.
Speaker 5: Noah, by the time I got to the finals, I'm like,
Speaker 5: if I don't bring out the energy that I normally do,
Speaker 5: I don't think my body would react in the same
Speaker 5: way right now, I got it, I argue, I gotta
Speaker 5: get it back to baseline so we can give myself
Speaker 5: a fighting chance in the whole race.
Speaker 1: Is there is there a preference of lamee because I
Speaker 1: didn't think you look, I didn't think you wanted to
Speaker 1: ken it beIN there, that far us out of in Tobogo,
Speaker 1: that far outside of you is there? I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of people late lane six seven five six seven,
Speaker 1: I think you were in lane four. So what's your
Speaker 1: what's your lane preference given? If no allows us one
Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy and if training has been great leading
Speaker 1: up to the meat, what's your lane preference?
Speaker 4: Six or seven? I my faster times in six and
Speaker 4: seven I could do damage and anything from four to eight.
Speaker 4: After once you go below four, it's it gets difficult.
Speaker 5: That turn gets really tight, and the way that you
Speaker 5: have to position your body is it strains the body
Speaker 5: to get around the turn so that you can give
Speaker 5: yourself a fighting chance on the second hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a really tight turn.
Speaker 1: When you're on the inside lanes, you really you got
Speaker 1: to be hugged at inside lane.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 5: What's crazy is Michael Johnson broke the world record in
Speaker 5: lane three because that he did me technically a preferred lane.
Speaker 5: I don't know how he did that because I've run
Speaker 5: it lane three quite a few times. That that that's
Speaker 5: not a that is not a preferred lane in my opinion.
Speaker 1: You know, the lady that broke the Mardarina coke, she
Speaker 1: broke the world record in lane too, in the four
Speaker 1: hundred meters.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know, I talking about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not there's a there's a thing. There's some
Speaker 1: testing going on state, but we'll get all. We're talking
Speaker 1: about that off offline. So okay, you got COVID, and
Speaker 1: and everybody seemed to be making a lot of the
Speaker 1: situation that you like, I need water, I need to
Speaker 1: get so you're like, did you ever think about pulling
Speaker 1: out the race? I'm surprised them that you raise because
Speaker 1: normally COVID, you get COVID. We can't have you contamidate
Speaker 1: anybody else, but the officials any say no, we got
Speaker 1: to quarantine you for twenty four hours. You might not
Speaker 1: be able to race. Was that ever a conversation, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a conversation.
Speaker 5: And while I was getting tested, I was talking with
Speaker 5: the team USA doctors, and they were telling me what
Speaker 5: the rules are. They changed them from Tokyo. They said
Speaker 5: that anybody who has COVID is allowed to compete. It's
Speaker 5: up to the governing body of their sport or their
Speaker 5: country to decide how they want to handle the COVID situation.
Speaker 4: So, you know, I'm I'm just letting you know.
Speaker 5: There were a lot of people in the village who
Speaker 5: had COVID, you know that just didn't say I'm just
Speaker 5: the most popular person who got COVID and said I
Speaker 5: have it, And because of that, it sort of, you know,
Speaker 5: it serves up a lot of controversy in itself. But
Speaker 5: you know, I've as soon as I heard I got
Speaker 5: COVID and I was able to compete, I said, I'm
Speaker 5: going to try. You know, I'm not promised tomorrow, so
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take advantage of what I have today. And
Speaker 5: if it's so, if it's so, be it that I'm
Speaker 5: not strong enough to make it through the rounds, then
Speaker 5: I'm you know, I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't able to do it.
Speaker 5: But the fact that I was able to get to
Speaker 5: the finals is and still grab bronze, And I was like,
Speaker 5: that's a metal that I could easily just said no,
Speaker 5: I got the gold, I'm good. No, no, I'm here now.
Speaker 5: I thought this for four years. I trained for this
Speaker 5: for four years. Why not take the opportunity?
Speaker 1: Obviously, you know that, you know the mythical number that's
Speaker 1: out there, nineteen nineteen. You've taken down the American record
Speaker 1: held by Michael Johnson. He broke that record in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety six at the Olympics. Actually he broke it at
Speaker 1: the trials of nineteen six, the nineteen seventy nine a record,
Speaker 1: So he's went up. I mean, what nineteen seventy two
Speaker 1: with the world record, if I'm not mistaken in seventy nine,
Speaker 1: but it was that after to Michael broke it at
Speaker 1: sea level in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: So you know, you're gonna have to have the perfect race.
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be the perfect surface, and it's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be the perfect You're gonna get the
Speaker 1: perfect lane, and you're gonna have to have the perfect competitors.
Speaker 1: Everything's gonna have to be perfect nor No.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that doesn't mean it can't happen, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm very aware of that, but I'll be
Speaker 5: ready on the day you know, I can't be ready
Speaker 5: on every day. I try to be as ready as possible.
Speaker 5: And that's you know what I just just try for.
Speaker 5: You know, I know that perfection is never a thing
Speaker 5: that you can actually obtain, But on my journey for perfection,
Speaker 5: I can obtain history.
Speaker 6: I like it speak speaking of that journey and where
Speaker 6: you are right now, at the top of your game,
Speaker 6: the best ass in the world at what you do. Uh,
Speaker 6: many would view you in a in a way that
Speaker 6: most would see obviously the villain and in a sense,
Speaker 6: you know, you know, being at the top, people taking
Speaker 6: shots at you, you being uh somewhat brash and confident
Speaker 6: in the way you carry yourself and the way you
Speaker 6: do your job, and that that is okay. Do you
Speaker 6: embrace being a villain and in some sort of way
Speaker 6: and and and enjoy some of the banter back and
Speaker 6: forth or I'm just curious how you feel about it,
Speaker 6: because you know, you always hear some of the things
Speaker 6: from other athletes say and stuff, and uh, you fire
Speaker 6: and back.
Speaker 7: I mean, how do you take it personally? Do you
Speaker 7: do you enjoy it? Do you like it?
Speaker 6: And just before you answer it, like for me myself
Speaker 6: as a villain myself.
Speaker 7: I love being in that spot.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 6: I like people talking about me. I like the trash
Speaker 6: talk back and forth. I'm just curious, how do you
Speaker 6: how you feel about it?
Speaker 4: I have a mixed view on it.
Speaker 5: In the sport itself, if we're talking about straight running
Speaker 5: your best to me, I'm better than you. I don't
Speaker 5: have probably. I love it, you know. I love the answer,
Speaker 5: I love the energy. I love going back and forth.
Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with that at all. That's
Speaker 5: what I'd love to see. That's what gets everybody excited.
Speaker 5: Now when people lie on my name outside the sport,
Speaker 5: that's when I draw issues and draw lines. But control that,
Speaker 5: you know, I can't. I can only do my best.
Speaker 5: But you know, I'm very aware that people are gonna
Speaker 5: want to hear what they want to hear, and some
Speaker 5: people are gonna take things different ways. And that's just
Speaker 5: how we are as humans. You know, everybody has their
Speaker 5: difference of opinions. Unfortunately, that is where I you know,
Speaker 5: I gotta say, I got to remind myself of that.
Speaker 4: You know, Okay, haters are.
Speaker 5: Gonna hear what they want to hear, but the people
Speaker 5: who support me, they're gonna want to hear what they
Speaker 5: hear as well. And at the same time, I see
Speaker 5: so many people who are affected by what I do
Speaker 5: in a positive light that I'm like, Okay, you know this,
Speaker 5: This makes me feel good. You know, it's very comforting
Speaker 5: to see that, and uh and know that you know
Speaker 5: I'm changing sport. You know, I'm trying to move forward.
Speaker 4: As much as possible.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: In terms of being the villain and being the hero,
Speaker 5: I see myself as an anti hero. Sometimes you gotta
Speaker 5: get your hands dirty, and sometimes you know you got
Speaker 5: you gotta try and shoot for the stars.
Speaker 4: But we're not perfect. I mean, we're human.
Speaker 5: You know, we make mistakes, you know, but when we
Speaker 5: try to do better, you know, I would hope you
Speaker 5: try to do better. But yeah, I mean one of
Speaker 5: my I feel biggest strengths is, you know, I listened
Speaker 5: to the people around me, and when I mess up,
Speaker 5: I try to correct those.
Speaker 4: Wrongs and do the best and do better next time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: One thing I can say is when you reach for
Speaker 6: the stars and you get your hand dirty and you
Speaker 6: combine the two, you combine the two, it's it creates
Speaker 6: someone extraordinary. So from from one to another, keep doing
Speaker 6: it the way you're doing it and keep making noise.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: No I think you got a lot of pushback. You
Speaker 1: run the World Championship last year and unprompted, you said,
Speaker 1: you see these hats and they have World champions on it,
Speaker 1: which we've always called the basketball players, we've always called
Speaker 1: the NBA, the NFL, the Super Bowl champ we've always
Speaker 1: called MLB, we've always called the World champs. And I
Speaker 1: think that's where a lot of the blowbacks, because it
Speaker 1: seemed like one of America's best athletes were taking another
Speaker 1: was taken a shot at some of the America's best athletes,
Speaker 1: and I think it kind of put you under the
Speaker 1: eye because then you know, basketball players said what they said,
Speaker 1: some football players chimed. And also and then for the
Speaker 1: first time I actually saw some of these athletes like
Speaker 1: openly rooting against you. I mean you might now, I
Speaker 1: mean something you have probably never seen another country. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna see the Dutch somebody from Dutch rooting against Femka,
Speaker 1: a rooting against our carston LEAs from Norway or inga Britsin.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna see that, do you think you brought
Speaker 1: some of this on yourself with that comment, or what
Speaker 1: were you to accomplish by making that comment?
Speaker 5: I think the last question that you asked, what was
Speaker 5: I trying to accomplish by making the comment, is the
Speaker 5: most important one. Everybody sees the clip, everybody sees the thumb. Now,
Speaker 5: everybody sees the sixteen seconds. But did anybody decide to
Speaker 5: ask what was the question that he that was asked
Speaker 5: to me?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: The question that was asked to me is how do
Speaker 5: you feel knowing that when you go back to your
Speaker 5: own country? Unlike these other countries that celebrate their athletes
Speaker 5: on such a humongous stage, when to Bojo won his
Speaker 5: gold medal, he went back to a stadium filled with
Speaker 5: thirty thousand people celebrated. Yes, when I showed up back
Speaker 5: home on my flight, of course some people recognized me,
Speaker 5: and I'm very thankful for that. There was no thirty
Speaker 5: thousand people. There was no limel driver ready to take
Speaker 5: me home. There was no bus waiting. If I had
Speaker 5: my mom, I had my pops and they were ready
Speaker 5: to take me home, and I was ready.
Speaker 4: To go to bed. None of that.
Speaker 5: There was none of that, right, But that the difference.
Speaker 5: I can understand the difference because we have a different
Speaker 5: way in America of seeing our sports. The problem that
Speaker 5: I had was you were given the title of a
Speaker 5: world champion the people who weren't facing the world. That's
Speaker 5: where I drew the line and said, that's hurtful because
Speaker 5: you already have those, but you're giving the title the
Speaker 5: people who aren't doing that.
Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with the man. They're great chances, they just
Speaker 4: didn't have the title.
Speaker 3: Is nicolea Jokic one of the best players in the world.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be hosie he that is.
Speaker 3: Okay, Luca Luka Doncic to okay.
Speaker 5: Jannis Athampo, Yes, he's okay. What's are They're great, they're
Speaker 5: great players, great players.
Speaker 3: But they're world players. They're not from America.
Speaker 1: And the problem that you're going to run into, Noah,
Speaker 1: is that Boatswana doesn't have a whole lot of athletes
Speaker 1: to celebrate as opposed to Americans. If you look at
Speaker 1: probably Kenya and Ethiopia, and and and and Sedaan in
Speaker 1: some of these other countries, the Dutch, the North Norwegians,
Speaker 1: we got NBA, we got MLB, we got football, we
Speaker 1: got baseball, and so yeah, teams, they have parades. Nobody
Speaker 1: is getting for the most part, even Michael Phelps. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they did they have how many people
Speaker 1: showed up at M and T. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Michael Phelps were eight goals, I don't know if he
Speaker 1: had thirty thousand show up.
Speaker 3: I know they might have had a big contingent cheering
Speaker 3: him on.
Speaker 1: I just think that the difference is Noah is that
Speaker 1: in a sport, in a in a in a country
Speaker 1: like Botswana, or you're talking about a country, he's their hero.
Speaker 1: He he is here to both Swana, He's Lebron James.
Speaker 3: That's what he is to both Swaana. Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: Uh you saying boat what he is to Jamaica. He's
Speaker 1: He's he is there. Michael Jordan, Yeah, I agree. Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan went in Chicago, they showed out for the parade,
Speaker 1: but but a problem when he went back to Wilmington
Speaker 1: where he was from.
Speaker 3: Ain't no thirty thousand show up for it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I agree.
Speaker 5: No, I agree one hundred that I'm not expecting that.
Speaker 5: I'm not expecting the parade. I'm just showing that the
Speaker 5: difference of how our sport is shown. And because the
Speaker 5: question that was asked again was how does it feel
Speaker 5: knowing that when I go back home, it's not what
Speaker 5: somebody like to Bojo is getting.
Speaker 7: When he goes off right.
Speaker 4: And again, I know what it is.
Speaker 3: I know what it is.
Speaker 5: I know we have you know, football and basketball, baseball, golf,
Speaker 5: those are all above my sport.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that.
Speaker 4: I of course I want to make that better, but
Speaker 4: I understand that.
Speaker 5: Again, the only problem I had was you have world
Speaker 5: champions but you're giving the title to people who aren't
Speaker 5: facing the world.
Speaker 4: And you're giving them the title of world champion.
Speaker 3: That's the only thing. That's the only thing me personally.
Speaker 1: Noah, I think if look, your two biggest meets are
Speaker 1: the two biggest are the Olympics in the World Championships,
Speaker 1: and enough they don't the Diamond leagues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you stream it, you can see it.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not as televised as say football or
Speaker 1: basketball or baseball.
Speaker 3: And so it's hard for the America for the for
Speaker 3: the cash, for the cash person.
Speaker 1: Everybody has a favorite team, whether you know the Cowboys fans,
Speaker 1: they're all over the place. The Steelers fans, the Packers, whomever,
Speaker 1: and so it's hard when I only really get a
Speaker 1: chance to see no Allows maybe what three four times
Speaker 1: and a four year span and a four year cycle.
Speaker 5: I agree and just said it's something that I talked
Speaker 5: to World Athletics, USATS, the Diamond leagues constantly about. I mean,
Speaker 5: you know what the hardest pill is gonna be for
Speaker 5: us to swallow as a sport. Sprint just came out.
Speaker 5: It is successful around the world, it's successful in the US.
Speaker 5: They're about to come up with another season and it's
Speaker 5: gonna do great. The hard part is that we as
Speaker 5: a sport are not ready for the popularity that is
Speaker 5: gonna come. Everybody's gonna say, I want to be a
Speaker 5: track and field fan. I want to follow Fred, I
Speaker 5: want to follow Noah, I want to follow Arion.
Speaker 3: Guess what, we.
Speaker 5: Don't even have a place to tell them to go
Speaker 5: to watch the track because it's in every other different country,
Speaker 5: a different place, and it's you gotta get a VPN
Speaker 5: and you gotta find your own website.
Speaker 4: You gotta go on these.
Speaker 5: Back alley places to just walk TV in a different language.
Speaker 5: We ourselves are not ready infrastructurally wise to say, hey, world,
Speaker 5: get get come on, we got something amazing for you.
Speaker 4: And that's the hard part.
Speaker 5: We just you know, the rights just for the domind
Speaker 5: leagues just got dropped by NBC and moved the flow track.
Speaker 5: Now we're putting it behind the paywall and making it
Speaker 5: even harder for fans to become new.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Okay, it hurts because I knew this was gonna happen.
Speaker 5: I knew that this was that sprint was gonna be
Speaker 5: successful because we have great athletes, great stories. The second parties,
Speaker 5: we are not ready for it yet. We need to
Speaker 5: get ready and we need to do it fast because
Speaker 5: it's coming.
Speaker 1: To l A is Uh is the is the the
Speaker 1: event you're talking about? Is Michael Johnson what he just launched?
Speaker 1: I think he got sid McLaughlin. I think he had
Speaker 1: had a couple of Grand Slam track, Grandson Grand Slam track. Yes,
Speaker 1: Uh have they? Have they approached you about being an
Speaker 1: active participant in this.
Speaker 5: We've I've been in talks between me, Michael and my agent.
Speaker 5: We've been talked since the day I heard about it,
Speaker 5: trying to get as much information, trying to get as
Speaker 5: much you know, a feed on it, a feel for
Speaker 5: what's going on.
Speaker 4: There's a lot that I like that he's doing.
Speaker 5: There's a few things that I think could be a
Speaker 5: little better. But the thing that's stopping me at the
Speaker 5: heart of it is I have yet to hear a
Speaker 5: TV provider. You know, again, what good is it if
Speaker 5: we're producing these great times, these great.
Speaker 4: Shows, these great it's the problem.
Speaker 5: We're in the same problem with the Diamond Leagues and
Speaker 5: with World Championships. I need to hear a TV provider.
Speaker 5: I need to know that he's going to be able
Speaker 5: to get seen consistently.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that, and that's one of the important
Speaker 6: things to grow the sport is the exposure. You have
Speaker 6: to have the exposure, you have to have the visibility
Speaker 6: also on on on the back end of that, and
Speaker 6: what I like is is the more personalities that we
Speaker 6: have in track and feel those that don't just go
Speaker 6: out and do their job and just do it quietly,
Speaker 6: but make noise while they're doing it. It creates a
Speaker 6: certain excitement for people that don't watch or just might
Speaker 6: be just casual fans.
Speaker 4: Just want to tune in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it forces and it makes people want to tune
Speaker 6: in and see what's gonna happen, especially when you have
Speaker 6: guys that are polarizing like yourself, that had the personality
Speaker 6: and had the enthusiasm, and it's a certain aura about
Speaker 6: them that makes you want to watch even if you're
Speaker 6: not a track fan. But again, man, the TV exposure
Speaker 6: invisibility is very important, and it's sad in twenty twenty
Speaker 6: four that it's not where it should be where more
Speaker 6: people can watch it.
Speaker 1: No, I know you didn't participate in the four by one,
Speaker 1: but what was your level of disappointment? Because if you
Speaker 1: look at what they ran and qualify to qualify, they
Speaker 1: ran thirty seven forty.
Speaker 3: Thirty seven forty would have won the goal if I'm
Speaker 3: not mistaken.
Speaker 1: Canada ran thirty seven fifty, which won the gold medal
Speaker 1: and the time that they qualified with. And one of
Speaker 1: the problems that I have you was the only person
Speaker 1: that's that that didn't run in the qualifying rounds.
Speaker 3: You were gonna run anchor. Why would they.
Speaker 1: Move the championship the World the World Championship team Coleman
Speaker 1: handed the baton to Fred. Currently, why would you take
Speaker 1: Fred from second leg and put him on anchor when
Speaker 1: Fred has been running second leg for the last two
Speaker 1: to three big meets.
Speaker 4: There's a lot I want to say, but I'm gonna
Speaker 4: start with this.
Speaker 5: I first want to give props to that team for
Speaker 5: not throwing anybody under the bus after they did not.
Speaker 4: Complete the task.
Speaker 5: Because if we want to get better, we can't be
Speaker 5: blaming people.
Speaker 4: So I don't want to come over, come out here
Speaker 4: and start blaming people.
Speaker 3: No, I'm blaming the coaches.
Speaker 5: That is usually, But if therein lies the problem, how
Speaker 5: many people are in the coaches here?
Speaker 4: That is the thing that gets USA in trouble.
Speaker 5: Because you got to know that some of these athletes
Speaker 5: are Nike athletes with Nike coaches. I'm an Adidas athlete,
Speaker 5: Adidas coach, and some coaches opinions personal are held at
Speaker 5: higher regard than other coaches opinions. And when one person
Speaker 5: is taken down I e. Me, it creates now a
Speaker 5: shift and everybody wants to go into different places because
Speaker 5: they're a little bit scared, and they're a little bit nervous,
Speaker 5: and they want to get they want to do it
Speaker 5: a little different. And I feel in that vacuum of
Speaker 5: me leaving, it provided everybody a chance to say, Okay,
Speaker 5: well we can now switch it up a different way,
Speaker 5: and unfortunately.
Speaker 4: Because of that, we weren't prepared.
Speaker 5: You know, those were those were handoffs that were not
Speaker 5: practiced when we practice, and seeing it was what happened
Speaker 5: was was heartbreaking. It was truly heartbreaking because I believe
Speaker 5: there were two in my head, there were two great
Speaker 5: options that we had. One was to use the team
Speaker 5: from the prelimbs that would have got the job done,
Speaker 5: and the other was to put Kenny on the anchor leg. Unfortunately,
Speaker 5: that's not the route that we went and it just
Speaker 5: didn't get done. And it's heartbreaking to see.
Speaker 3: But no, yeah, five Olympics, we haven't been able to
Speaker 3: get the baton around five.
Speaker 4: All I know is every time I'm only angry we win.
Speaker 4: That's all I know.
Speaker 3: Well, do you need to suck it up? You should?
Speaker 3: With that mask on one, it sucked it up, bed.
Speaker 4: I was thinking about that when I was watching it.
Speaker 1: We had we had Quincy holl On and Quincy said
Speaker 1: that I know you said you wanted to run not
Speaker 1: only the four by one, but the four by four.
Speaker 1: Quincy believed that you could lay down a blistering time
Speaker 1: in the open.
Speaker 3: Four What do you think you? What can you? What
Speaker 3: can you what's your pr currently and what do you
Speaker 3: think you can run with some training?
Speaker 5: Oh, I haven't run the four open force since high school.
Speaker 5: I think I ran like forty seven for but I've
Speaker 5: run forty four splits. I've run forty five splits multiple times.
Speaker 5: If I trained, I'm put like this. So dream Richards.
Speaker 5: He runs for Trinidad and Tobago. We trained together.
Speaker 4: He is an.
Speaker 5: Nineteen eight two hundred meter runner and he decided he
Speaker 5: was going to focus more than the four hundred this year.
Speaker 5: He was in that finals. Yeah he got four, right,
Speaker 5: maybe got four? Yeah, he got fourth with forty three
Speaker 5: seven new national record. I believe it's in the all
Speaker 5: time top ten, all time fastest times.
Speaker 4: Fourth.
Speaker 5: He got fourth. My fi R's nineteen three in the
Speaker 5: two hundred, and I have some pretty good strength on
Speaker 5: me as well. I truly would like to take a
Speaker 5: shot at the world record if I decided to move
Speaker 5: to the four hundred, truly and give it my one
Speaker 5: hundred percent for multiple years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going after the world record if I'm If I'm.
Speaker 3: On the world record in the two or the world
Speaker 3: record in the four.
Speaker 4: In the four, I'm doing it in a serious well.
Speaker 1: Noah, do you understand Do you understand those times forty
Speaker 1: three oh three in nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you this. My brain understands it. My
Speaker 4: body don't know the difference.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I like that. I like that difference.
Speaker 5: Why would my body think that's a hard song. My
Speaker 5: body don't know that that's hard. If I keep telling
Speaker 5: it to get faster and faster, it's gonna try and adapt,
Speaker 5: It's gonna keep moving towards that time.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you this, Noah, let's just say, for
Speaker 1: the sake of Arment twenty eight is gonna be here
Speaker 1: before you know it. So that's four years away, and
Speaker 1: I know your pride and I know your baby. You
Speaker 1: got the goal in the hundred meters, but you're really
Speaker 1: known as a two hundred meter guy. If you don't
Speaker 1: win the gold medal at the Olympics in the two
Speaker 1: hundred meters, what is Noah Lias gonna tell himself.
Speaker 5: I'm going to tell myself. I'm stills. I'm still the
Speaker 5: man I was when I showed up and after I left.
Speaker 5: Of course, I want the gold and I'm gonna make
Speaker 5: sure that I tried my one hundred percent to get
Speaker 5: it done. But I will tell you that just because
Speaker 5: I don't have the gold, that doesn't make me less
Speaker 5: of a person. That doesn't make me less of a
Speaker 5: human being. That just means that I wasn't able to
Speaker 5: get the task that I set myself up for. But
Speaker 5: I will be so disappointed in myself if I didn't
Speaker 5: give it one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: The world will be here if I'm not mistaken. The
Speaker 1: worlds are in Tokyo. That's gonna that's gonna be that's
Speaker 1: gonna be here before you know it.
Speaker 5: And I'm already pre qualified because I'm the world championship
Speaker 5: in both, so I automatically get to buy.
Speaker 3: So what are you you looking to defend your crown
Speaker 3: in the hundred and the two hundred?
Speaker 5: Of course, I want the way I'm gonna see these
Speaker 5: next three years is I want to prefer effect how
Speaker 5: to handle the double. When I was going through the
Speaker 5: last cycle, Olympic cycle, I was trying to perfect how
Speaker 5: to make my two hundreds so good that I can
Speaker 5: run the hundred.
Speaker 4: Now I've been able to have both of them. Now
Speaker 4: I want to say I want to be.
Speaker 5: Prepared to run my fastest each and every round. I
Speaker 5: want to know that I want to know the hundred
Speaker 5: like the back of my hand. I want to know
Speaker 5: the two hundred like both of my hands. I want
Speaker 5: to make sure that I am fully prepared, creating blueprints
Speaker 5: going down each year, saying, hey, when we get to
Speaker 5: the Olympics, when we get to LA, we're going to
Speaker 5: be so prepared that no matter what is thrown at us,
Speaker 5: what we ready for it.
Speaker 6: When you think about that, having to be able to
Speaker 6: go round by round, whether it be the hundred or
Speaker 6: two hundred, then you have competition, understanding everybody's strengths and weaknesses.
Speaker 7: Then you have to push your.
Speaker 6: Body to a point to where you can go round
Speaker 6: by round where you don't have to exert that much
Speaker 6: energy and you're that much better than everybody else. Do
Speaker 6: you I mean, when I sit here and think about it,
Speaker 6: do you understand how difficult a task that is to
Speaker 6: push your body to a point to where it's able
Speaker 6: to do that round by round and still win and
Speaker 6: run fast, but also come out on top and win
Speaker 6: the one and the two.
Speaker 5: Of course, of course it's difficult. Of course everybody wants it.
Speaker 5: If it was easy, everybody would do it. Yeah, hold on, now,
Speaker 5: I'm not here to do the easy. I'm not here
Speaker 5: to do the mundane. That's not what excites me. I
Speaker 5: want to do the things that nobody's done, the things
Speaker 5: that are hard, the things that challenge my body. The
Speaker 5: reason I like to get up and practice every day
Speaker 5: is because I like to see what my body can
Speaker 5: truly do. What is what if I push it and
Speaker 5: do everything right to the fullest, what can happen? I
Speaker 5: want to see that every time.
Speaker 3: No, can you provide some context?
Speaker 1: There's this Time magazine story that came out that revealed
Speaker 1: that while you were negotiating your contract with Adidas, they
Speaker 1: offered you an invite to a shoe release for Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1: And I think everybody's read to quote. Can you provide context?
Speaker 1: But what transpired? I mean, look, we don't need to
Speaker 1: get into negotiations, but what transpired? If what's being reported,
Speaker 1: how accurate is that?
Speaker 4: So? What what was going on at the time? I
Speaker 4: was in negotiations for over a year with Adidas to
Speaker 4: get to get the contract.
Speaker 5: Them offering me, you know, to go to as for
Speaker 5: shoe release, who had nothing to do with the contract.
Speaker 5: They just thought it would be cool that I would
Speaker 5: show up as one of their Adidas athletes.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately agree.
Speaker 5: They asked for it very late. They asked for it
Speaker 5: probably about two weeks in advance, and I was already
Speaker 5: scheduled to walk in the Hugo Boss show in Milan,
Speaker 5: which was a day and a half before his shoe release.
Speaker 5: So at first we were trying to figure out ways
Speaker 5: that we can get there, and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 5: this this.
Speaker 4: This isn't good. This isn't gonna work.
Speaker 5: There's no way that I'd be able to walk and
Speaker 5: then get on the flight and have energy enough to
Speaker 5: be able to go to this advan because it wasn't
Speaker 5: just so shoe released. They were also gonna, you know,
Speaker 5: have us go to a little baby concert and we
Speaker 5: were gonna be just signed.
Speaker 4: It was gonna be a lot. It was gonna be
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 5: And I was already drained from you know, flying over
Speaker 5: already doing the fashion shows, doing the walks, you know,
Speaker 5: going to other events.
Speaker 4: You know, I was already drowned like this, There's no
Speaker 4: way I'd be able to physically do this.
Speaker 1: I know, I agree with you flying overseas as then
Speaker 1: it's someone that's flown overseas and then come back.
Speaker 3: You kind of jet lag, but you probably shouldn't lift it.
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that the other stuff where you get into trouble,
Speaker 1: where people is picking apart what you said is because like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I'm the world champ and he's getting this
Speaker 1: and you have the wordwithal the forward thinking to see
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be special and why can't you guys
Speaker 1: see that with me?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: I will say, being very vulnerable in this moment, I
Speaker 5: felt very unheard at that moment with the DNS, I
Speaker 5: felt very unheard. And we and and and to give
Speaker 5: an example, people do a lot of things. They what
Speaker 5: do you do when you feel on her? You try
Speaker 5: out louder? Yes, M And I felt that I have
Speaker 5: had many conversations trying to shout and it hadn't gotten
Speaker 5: through right. And unfortunately that was one of my moments
Speaker 5: where I felt I had to shout to even get
Speaker 5: them to look my way okay in that time article
Speaker 5: because they asked me if I wanted to take it
Speaker 5: out and I decided I was not going to because
Speaker 5: I had to stand on my decision. At that moment,
Speaker 5: I felt that I had to shout to get even
Speaker 5: a conversation about what I wanted to happen.
Speaker 4: Or what was going on at that point to be
Speaker 4: to move forward? Could it be better?
Speaker 3: Probably?
Speaker 4: Was there more ways to do it? Probably?
Speaker 5: But in that moment I felt that I had taken
Speaker 5: so many steps in other ways that I had to
Speaker 5: shout at this moment.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask this one and follow up.
Speaker 1: Do you regret your decision not to have that removed
Speaker 1: from the article?
Speaker 5: I don't believe so at the moment. This conversation could
Speaker 5: be had in a year and I could have a
Speaker 5: different answer. At this moment, I do not feel so,
Speaker 5: because I still feel if I did not shout.
Speaker 4: At that strument, I would not get preamble too. Oh,
Speaker 4: he is serious. And when I said it at the Olympics,
Speaker 4: they knew it was still on my heart.
Speaker 3: Wait, Joe, No, I was. I was good.
Speaker 6: I was good because you you hit, you hit on
Speaker 6: what I was? What I was going to piggyback and
Speaker 6: ask as well.
Speaker 3: Another question, Noah.
Speaker 1: In track and field, there's only been two men that's
Speaker 1: ever had a shoot, Michael Johnson and Usain Boat two. Uh.
Speaker 1: Michael Johnson had the world record in one hundred and
Speaker 1: the two hundred and he don't know anything but gold medals.
Speaker 3: I think he's a.
Speaker 1: Four time world champ in the four hundred, two time
Speaker 1: world champ in the two hundred, he's a two time
Speaker 1: champ and the four hundred, and he's one time champ
Speaker 1: in the two hundred. And you say, I just say
Speaker 1: you saying boat, I don't even say anything else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what makes Why do you believe that you deserve to
Speaker 1: be in that category? With those guys looking at their accomplishments,
Speaker 1: not to say you're not done yet, but looking at
Speaker 1: their accomplishment accomplishments, looking at yours, Why did no allows
Speaker 1: believe he deserves to shoot?
Speaker 5: The reason I believe it is twofold one. We look
Speaker 5: at Michael Johnson. Michael Johnson, he is a He's a
Speaker 5: track guy, through and through.
Speaker 4: That's all.
Speaker 5: He's track and he loves track, and that's what he
Speaker 5: decided his lane was going to be. I don't feel
Speaker 5: that in his time period, we had the social media,
Speaker 5: we had the marketing, the self marketing true to be
Speaker 5: able to push it forward. Of course, he had Nike,
Speaker 5: and Nike was doing very well, but they wanted to
Speaker 5: keep it. You know, I don't think that they really
Speaker 5: wanted to keep pushing it and I don't know if
Speaker 5: Michael Johnson wanted to do the work or not to
Speaker 5: market it as well as No, I don't know how
Speaker 5: much they they had in their contract to keep that
Speaker 5: shoe alive.
Speaker 4: That's where I'm going to leave it with that.
Speaker 5: The time period wasn't right with Usain Bolt, the CEO
Speaker 5: that actually gave the Bolt his shoe, is now what
Speaker 5: Adida is. And I've had conversations and I think you
Speaker 5: saying was very excited in the moment, and then he
Speaker 5: got excited about something else when it was time to
Speaker 5: do you know, the the underground work, the marketing, the
Speaker 5: commercials and stuff like that, and that scared a lot
Speaker 5: of companies I think in that moment. Also you saying
Speaker 5: is Jamaican. The marketing in the US is different. I
Speaker 5: feel one of our in the US is is that
Speaker 5: it turns out when it comes to marketing, entertainment and
Speaker 5: marketing is the US is bread and butter.
Speaker 4: We know how to do that, like that's just our thing.
Speaker 5: So now that I'm an American in a time period
Speaker 5: where its self, marketing is very popular and it's very
Speaker 5: you know, very prevalent. It's strong. You know, everybody wants
Speaker 5: to do it. Everybody's looking at it. They want the brand,
Speaker 5: they want the identity. You know, a person's identity is
Speaker 5: more marketed sometimes than a brand at times, and now
Speaker 5: we see them as brands. I know that I can
Speaker 5: do the work, I know that I can get the metals.
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, I think that
Speaker 5: it comes down to guys. You now have the title
Speaker 5: of the world's fastest man.
Speaker 3: What do you do with that title?
Speaker 5: You tell them, don't you want to have the shoes
Speaker 5: of the world's fastest man. Don't you want to put
Speaker 5: those shoes on your feet. I'm wearing the same shoes
Speaker 5: as the world's fastest man. It's gonna make me so fast.
Speaker 3: But the shoes that the world fastest man wears track spikes.
Speaker 5: Not only only wears track spikes on the track, but
Speaker 5: he trains in tennis shoes. He came out, he's in
Speaker 5: tennis shoes. And when people go out and run marathons,
Speaker 5: they wear tennis shoes. And when you're in the gym,
Speaker 5: you wear tennis shoes. You wearing tennis shoes. Everybody wears
Speaker 5: tennis shoes. And the only reason that you don't see
Speaker 5: more marketing for tennis shoes and individual runners is because
Speaker 5: they just haven't done it. But why are we saying
Speaker 5: just because it hasn't been done mean it can't be done.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean if it was, if it was gonna happen,
Speaker 6: the timing is now. It's timing is now. Especially while
Speaker 6: while the stove is hot is I'll call it right now,
Speaker 6: the stove is hot. You are the stove hot. You
Speaker 6: take advantage of that. And there's there's always a market
Speaker 6: for everything, no matter what it is. Everything is marketable,
Speaker 6: especially when it has the right push and people behind it,
Speaker 6: so there's.
Speaker 7: Really no excuse on their end. And this is why
Speaker 7: we need.
Speaker 6: Certain individuals in positions of power to make these things
Speaker 6: and transitions a little bit easier. And it shouldn't have
Speaker 6: to be a fight. We have to yell and scream
Speaker 6: all the goddamn time to get ship done.
Speaker 3: Well you, uh no, You're gonna have to.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to start posting a little bit more
Speaker 1: on IG You saying has fourteen million IG follows, you
Speaker 1: got one point five?
Speaker 3: Give us your I G handle you own I G
Speaker 3: and Twitter?
Speaker 5: No Joe eighteen outllows Noah on Twitter? You know Joe
Speaker 5: eighteen on TikTok. You know, I mean you you're saying,
Speaker 5: has it has had his career. I'm still in the
Speaker 5: middle of my career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, go out and follow nor Allows at the
Speaker 1: at the app that he just gave you.
Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1: Three time world champion the two hundred meters, one time champion,
Speaker 1: one hundred meters at the World Olympic, gold medalists anchored
Speaker 1: the world the World Championship team last year.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, o, Joe.
Speaker 6: I do want to know before you go, how nervous
Speaker 6: would you be if you had to race me. I'm
Speaker 6: just curious. I'm just just thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Race you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be pretty nervous for you. I don't want
Speaker 4: you to catch cramp.
Speaker 6: Oh no oh, this was hypothetical. I was just curious.
Speaker 6: I wanted to know how nervous you would be. But
Speaker 6: you think I would catch the cramp. But I drink,
Speaker 6: I drink pickle juice. I'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Oh, Joe, I forgot, I forgot. We forgoten Tyreek Tyreek.
Speaker 1: Say you want someone you know him? I can't believe
Speaker 1: you know who Tyreek he is. Don't do that, Noah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest. I forget his name all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm teet to be honest.
Speaker 4: If it's not.
Speaker 5: About track and it ain't about legal legends. My yeah,
Speaker 5: he's saying like this, Tyrie is just chasing Cloud the man.
Speaker 5: Anytime somebody fast comes up, he says he wants to
Speaker 5: race him. If he really wanted to race people, he
Speaker 5: would have showed up like DK me and the man
Speaker 5: in the sixty meters this year in the master's division,
Speaker 5: the man Dodger smoke, I don't got time for that.
Speaker 7: Hey, Hey, Rinki calling you out.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, Let's get a couple of said,
Speaker 1: let's see if we can get some sponsors. Would you
Speaker 1: be willing to race Rieka in a sixty or one
Speaker 1: hundred if we got some sponsors to put some money up.
Speaker 5: Und we can raise if he if he's serious about it,
Speaker 5: If he's truly serious about it, I'm not talking about
Speaker 5: you just talking on the internet and you ain't actually
Speaker 5: coming to me and talking to my agent and saying,
Speaker 5: let's say something up. You are seriously about it, you'll
Speaker 5: see me on the track.
Speaker 1: All right there, you ladies and gentlemen. The current fastest
Speaker 1: man in the world. No allows, nor thank you for
Speaker 1: giving us some of you. I appreciate you representation. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the opportunity, guys, so lou all right, we'll see
Speaker 1: you down the road.
Speaker 3: Good luck. Hey, you got the meats coming up? Are
Speaker 3: you done for this year? You shutting it down or
Speaker 3: you can do for this year?
Speaker 4: Man, I'm shutting it down.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, best of luck, bro, and
Speaker 1: congratulations on one hundred meter goal. Bron's in the two
Speaker 1: hundred meters. Get healthy and we'll see you next year
Speaker 1: in the world. Good luck, Bro, Thank you, no allowed,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. That was that was that was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was great to have Noah on and to uh
Speaker 1: to get an opportunity to pick his brain and talk
Speaker 1: to him about the what he's what he's thinking going
Speaker 1: into one hundred meters uh, the COVID diagnosis, and being
Speaker 1: able to try to still go out there to compete
Speaker 1: for goal.
Speaker 3: He ends up getting bronze.
Speaker 1: Nothing to hang his head about with that, but a
Speaker 1: tremendous effort, great conversation, Oh Joe, very very forthcoming, didn't
Speaker 1: dodge anything. Every question that we set for answered it.
Speaker 1: And that's what that's all, that's all we can ask,
Speaker 1: that's all we can ask.