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He's a 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.919 three time two hundred meters champion at the World Championship. 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:30.240 He anchored the World the gold medal winning team and 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.600 the World Championship last year. Here he is, Ladies and gentlemen, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.119 No allows, no, how you doing, bro feeling good? 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.040 Feeling good? What's popping? 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:42.400 I'm good. Let's get right into it. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:47.119 That race leading into it, you ran your fastest time 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:48.440 leading that Diamond League meet. 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.000 I think you ran nine to eighty one. 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:54.480 You know, Kashane Thompson has run nine seven seven, and 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.480 everybody's talking that's the man to beat, that's the man 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.920 to beat. And you had never run sub nine to 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.720 eight to run it in the finals when you absolutely 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.720 had the habit, Tell me what was your strategy going 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.960 into that race and how were you able to pull 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:10.320 it off? 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.280 To be honest, I have many strategies. They all kind 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.279 of you know, we're thrown out the window, so closer 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.840 and closer we got to the finals. You know, in 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:22.960 the first round, I'm like, okay, you know, I'm gonna 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.479 work on my first sixty. I'm gonna get out, but 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.159 you know, you know I have add so my brain 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.279 is working on overdrive. It's like, well, we could we 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.080 could get out easy and then hit it hard, or 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:34.960 we can get it hard and then shut it down, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:36.760 or we could run fast all the way. And the 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.960 problem was I thought too much and then I underestimated 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.640 my competition. It's like, no, see, now you had to 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.640 you messed up. I'm like, all right, all right, I 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.040 need to call my brain down. I needed to get it. 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.280 Set on one goal. So we get to the semifinals. 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:53.680 Now I'm like, all right, aggression, mindset, power, everything like that. 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:56.240 And it produced, you know, a really good time eighty three. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.080 You know, it tied again my second pass of time, 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.160 which was my pr before London. So I'm like, all right, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.240 you know, I'm good. I'm good, but you know I 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.000 feel I can go even faster. You know, I didn't 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:07.800 want to get beat, you know, So here I am 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.440 coming getting second in the semos. 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:10.960 I'm like, you know, what's going on? 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.880 So my my therapist calls me and she's like, you're 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.560 running with aggressing. You're running with a Noah, that is 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.960 not you. And I'm like Okay, fair enough that that's 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.440 not me. You know that that's an older way of thinking. 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.360 That's just not how I run. It's like, you need 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.600 to run free, need to run with no pressure, just 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.680 go out there and run. And I'm like, all right, cool, 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.080 that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go out there 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.039 and I'm gonna just run. And she said if you 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.320 control the crowd, you control the race. And I know, 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:40.800 I'm like, well, shoot. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.040 That's that's how I do. I'm gonna show me. That's 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:42.560 that's what I do. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.520 You know, if that's all that takes, I'm gonna win 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:47.720 the race. But we get you know, we're getting out there, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.479 I'm just like, just be me, Just be me, Just 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.600 be me. We get out there and you know, they're 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.960 doing the intros and you know, Kashane comes down Kashane. 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.240 He ends up yelling and I'm like, oh, hold on, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:02.480 that's that's me. But I didn't hold it for it. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.400 I liked it though, because I love to see more 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:09.000 personalities come up than just look at the camera say hi, 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.919 walk out. It's like, nah, Noah, bring that energy, like 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.760 get me excited to run. So you know, there's another 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.240 YouTube video that NBC put out where it's like you 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:18.840 can see us in the back of the car room, 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:19.760 you know, Fred and. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.479 On the side, you know, banging on the wall. 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:24.760 It's like, let's go, you know, cause Shane's doing his yelling. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.120 I'm over here singing dreams the nightmarees. I'm like, yeah, 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.800 this this is an Olympic, this is an Olympic Finals. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:32.160 So you know, I go out, I'm jumping around, I'm 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.240 running past the cameras, I'm yelling at the crowd and 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.599 they over here like yeah excited. I'm like, yeah, this 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.320 is this is my race now. And you know, from 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.840 that point on, it was just repeating, you know, you know, 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.480 God got me, God got me, got me. Because at 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.800 this point, I've done everything that I need to do 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:47.960 to win this race. Everything that I need to do 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.560 has been done in months in advance. You know, we're 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.599 already here. Now it's just a believing in myself that 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.760 it's gonna get done. And it's not about running fast times. 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:59.640 It's about running to win. The times will come when 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:00.640 you to win. 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:08.719 So you go out there and your reaction time isn't 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.680 bad because normally you're like your your reaction time is 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.360 a little slow, but I think you knew. I really 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:18.440 can't spot as Justin Gatlin says nine eight can't catch 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:20.440 nine to eight if you give up too much cushion. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.040 So your reaction time wasn't that much behind him. I 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.640 think he was zero point one seven six, and I 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.320 think you were zero point one seven eight and so, 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.080 so you're really close. But you know you got the 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.720 top end. You got four hundred meters strength, you got 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.240 two hundred meters strength strength, So you've had to feel 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.760 good if I'm close to this joker at fifty sixty meters, 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:43.000 I can get home. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:44.240 Yeah, I knew. 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.120 I knew how I had a good lane. When I 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.720 saw Oblique Seville was gonna be next to me, I'm like, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.240 that's the guy who's been beating me. He's beat me 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:55.280 twice already. I know, I know his strengths. I know 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.960 where he's gonna try and and go on me. And 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.720 the problem I feel is every time that's I've been 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.520 too many lanes away to see when he makes that move. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.200 So I'm like, now that I got you right next 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:06.560 to me, I know where you're gonna make your move, 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:07.920 and I know I'm gonna make it as soon as 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:10.760 you make yours, and you know, thankful he was there 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.680 for that and I was able to do that. And 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.720 a lot of people get stuck on this reaction time 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.240 and like, oh he got out the block slow. You know, 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.120 I'm I'm a numbers guy. I look at every ten 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:23.200 meter increment. I look at five minute increments, how fast 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.440 I was to this part of the race, how fast 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.840 I was in this and at the end. 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.080 In the beginning, So when. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.560 I'm looking back at the race, I'm looking at the numbers, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.920 the numbers are actually very normal for me. In the 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.240 first ten meters, it was probably some of like it 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.000 matches some of my fastest runs. 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:41.680 The difference is everybody else said. 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.080 I got to be better, I gotta be more, I 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.480 got to be more than I've ever been before, and 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.199 they did. But in the end of that race, they 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.080 tired themselves out. So you saw a time that was 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.920 not representative of their prs because they use so much 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.640 energy trying to be that in the beginning of the race. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:02.319 But because I was, you know, already on par for 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.679 what I normally do, I just put an extra bit 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:08.520 on the end and it led me to run it faster. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.400 You know, it's so funny when I sit here and 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.160 think about it, when I think about running one hundred meters, right, 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.120 the margin of error is so small you can't make 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:19.760 any mistakes. And if you do it, if you do 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.080 make a mistake, whether it be in the start or 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:23.880 depending on what phase of the race you do, make 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.120 that mistake, in the chances of coming back. Since everybody 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:30.720 is so fast and the race is so short, obviously 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:35.360 only being nine seconds, how do you process the race 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.800 when you have so many different runners against you? Are 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.679 you racing more and so against them? Are you more 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.520 so racing against yourself from a strategic standpoint. 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.920 Yeah, it's a patient race. It's very patient. A lot 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.679 of people think, you know, you just gas it from 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:50.480 the get go. You can't do that. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.400 You know, there are many runners. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.400 Who are specialists in the sixty and then they come 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.480 to one hundred and it's not always as representative. You 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.120 don't see a transition, you know, to the hundred and 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.600 even to two hundred. So, yeah, it's a patient race. 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.440 And to answer your question on terms of athletes, you know, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:10.319 there's a confidence in yourself knowing that no matter who 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.600 you race, you're gonna still do what you've been doing 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.920 in practice. But there's also the confidence in yourself that says, 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.240 I love to compete, and when somebody pulls on me, 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.480 pulls up on me, or somebody gets out on me, 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:22.360 I'm a captain. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:23.199 Yea. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.440 So it's it's it's a confidence thing. 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:28.880 Now if you panic in that moment, it doesn't matter 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:32.480 if you're racing the competitors or if you're saying, oh 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:35.160 I had a bad reaction time, I'm out of the race. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.160 Now it's the confidence to say I'm gonna get myself 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:41.480 back into the race or hold on, it's okay, I'm 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.959 gonna reel them back in, you know, to catch them. 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.760 Give me a few meters, don't tighten up, but I'm 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:49.960 gonna get to you that. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:51.800 No, let me ask you this. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.480 I was hoping that you and Kashane was next to 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.400 each other, because, like I said, I had we had 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.040 Justin Gatlin on here, and we had Michael Johnson on 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.880 before this race took And I said, the problem that 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.839 I have is that he Kashane has never. 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:04.960 Been on the global stage. 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.520 I said, I understand the nine seven seven at the trials, 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:10.040 but the Olympics and the world stage is something different. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.720 I say, if somebody can make him run the full 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.800 hundred meters, we'll see if he can still hold that 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.640 form when he's letting. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:18.760 Up at eighty meters. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:22.560 I think big Thread being next to him put him 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.760 under the gun. He applied pressure from the beginning all 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.079 the way to the end, and. 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:29.960 If you look at his last eighty eight. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:34.280 The like fifteen twenty meters, that form started to break 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.600 and that was your that was the door that you 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.559 needed to open just enough for you to put a 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.120 foot in and get eventually get your get your torso 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:43.040 to the line of. 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.480 Yay, I agree, it's very accurate. 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.960 And another point to that is, you know a lot 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.640 of people is like, oh, Kashane ran this time slowing down, 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.599 slowing down, slowing down. And yes, it's very impressive that 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.880 he ran those times slowing down, but unfortunately you never 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:02.160 took your body to running full speed. So when now 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.360 you need it at the end, it's it's a new 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.360 it's a new world, and unfortunately you don't want to 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.920 put yourself in a new world position in the Olympic final. 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.840 But I do agree one hundred percent putting pressure on it. Fred, 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.800 putting pressure on him definitely was a bonus to. 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:22.000 Me, you know what, but go ahead, No, go ahead? 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.520 Looking on, Hey the piggyback off. 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.920 One of the key words that you said obviously being 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:31.359 on an Olympic stage represent your country one hundred meters 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.959 in Paris. Now you have experience running in big meets, 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.960 You have experience being on the big stage. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.720 Does the pressure really affect you that much? 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.120 And if it does affect you, what ways are you 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:44.640 able to dodge it and suppress that pressure. 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:45.520 To be able to go out there and run the 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:46.560 race that you need to. 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.880 The way that I view crowds and pressure. You know, 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.000 my coach said something that I felt like really got 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.640 to me. He said pressure can work in one of 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:59.400 two ways. It can either boost you by twenty percent 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.240 or it can tear you down by twenty percent. 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.080 You decide how you want that twenty percent to go. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.160 If you say, this is my opportunity, this is my moment, 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:11.960 this is what was made for me. 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:14.240 That's a boost twenty percent. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:15.120 Right. 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.199 If you're going in saying, shoot, I've never raised these 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:19.840 guys before. You know, I don't know if I could 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.920 do this. You know, this is uncharted territory. You know 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.400 what if I'm not prepared, what a bunch of what if? 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:26.199 What if? What if? 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:30.400 That's twenty percent less than you're going to underperforming. You 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.480 know that's not the mindset you want going into that. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.480 And that's how I view competing. Every time I get 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.600 to a big stage, I believe that this is a 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.240 moment that God has prepared for me. You know, I 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:42.559 put in the work. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:43.320 In the natural. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.880 You know, I'm gonna believe that God put in the 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.120 super and to put it together, we're going to create 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:48.840 the supernatural. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.000 Okay, let's transition. You win the goal. You said, that's 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:55.880 what you wanted to do. You wanted to win to go. 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.120 There haven't been a whole lot of men, Noah, that 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.600 have double when the hundred meter goal and the two 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.360 hundred meter goal in the Olympics. We know what you saying, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:08.560 Boat there from eight to sixteen. He tripled up, Carl Lewis, 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.920 he doubled up. But it's not been a whole lot 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.760 of men to win both of those races. And so 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.480 I know you got the hard part out the way. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.880 It was the most challenging event. What's going to be 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.880 the hundred You are two hundred meter specialist kind of 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:26.440 like you saying that turned yourself into a great one 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.280 hundred meter runner. So now you get to the two hundred, 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.680 when did you start to notice something like, damn, I'm 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.240 coming down with something. I don't feel like, noah, my 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.400 win is I'm not being able to breathe like I 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:42.040 normally do. 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:47.240 I'm to be honest, there were now looking back, there 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.240 were signs the day of the finals of the hundred 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.840 that I was like, this is taking too much energy 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.960 to produce what I normally produce. 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.920 But I just threw it to the side. And then 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:01.200 I wake up the next day. 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:05.200 So it's Monday now, after the finals, and I have 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.560 a sore throat, and I'm just thinking, oh, okay, maybe 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:09.920 I just cheered a little too much. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.480 Maybe I was yelling a little too much. Even though 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.080 I didn't really feel like I was. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.040 I just you know, put it off to that because 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:18.880 you know, I had a job to do, right. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.160 It wasn't until I woke up in the middle of 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.520 the night on Tuesday. 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:28.760 Morning and my body is aching, I'm chills, I'm I 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.760 got a headache, my sinuses are running, my throat is 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.200 super sore. I'm like, oh no, these are all the 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.560 signs I get before I get COVID, and I said, 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.200 I called up the doctor in that moment. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.080 I said, we need to test, we need. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:42.760 To tell you. 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.680 So you've had COVID before, so you know the symptoms 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.040 or the oncoming of it. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:47.360 Again. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:48.960 Not only have I. 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:51.840 Had COVID before, For the last two years, I have 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:56.080 gotten COVID a week or the week of US Championships 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:57.560 the last two years. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:58.400 Wow. 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.680 So this is the first year that I didn't show 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.400 up to US Championships with COVID or with just coming 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:10.560 out of COVID. So I'm thinking, oh, I'm good. I'm 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.480 not catching COVID this year. You know it's gonna be great. 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.880 It is again the worst time in the worst time 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:18.880 in the world. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.200 But you feel good. You going through the round, you 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:26.920 feel fairly good. I think you dropped the bogo in 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:31.640 the semis. Yeah, and you look nor you ran. I 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.800 think you ran a nineteen fifty. I think he was 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.720 in the race and he ran nineteen fifty seven. But 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.080 it was a nip and tuck race. 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.680 No no, no, no, no no, no, that wasn't that wasn't 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:40.920 this me. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.120 No, no, no, I'm not saying that, but I'm saying 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.400 you were in a race previously that you won the race. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:52.280 But Kenny, yeah, Kenny Iron ran Oh gosh, I can't 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.320 remember if it's fifty three and he ran fifty seven 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:55.040 or fifty six. 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.280 It was at US Championships. 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.800 Right now, but you raced to Bogo, so you know 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.840 he has he has great. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.560 He's forty four, he's low forty four four in the 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.320 four hundred, He's got nine sub ninety nine in the 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.760 one hundred, so you know he probably on a good day, 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.640 he probably can go sub nineteen six. Oh are you're 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.400 probably thinking I'm probably gonna need to go sub nineteen six, 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:26.399 maybe even nineteen five in order to win this, given 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:27.760 the given who's. 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.440 In this race. Correct. 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.840 I wasn't even thinking about that, okay, because going into 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.040 the meet, before I went over to London, I'm doing 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.200 practices and I'm asking my coach what do I need 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.520 to run to prove to you that I can break 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.879 this world record into two hundred, and he tells me 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:45.040 the time and I do it. So in my head 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.359 I'm in world record shape. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:47.240 Wow. 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.000 So it's not about the competitors, it's how well can 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.800 I run my best race? Okay, But as soon as 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.359 I get COVID I'm like, oh my gosh. Like now, 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.080 I'm just trying to make sure that I get through 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.399 every round. I'm that I'm gonna be able to be 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.320 as fit as possible. And you know how I was 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.720 talking about having a plan before you got it, before 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:09.000 I got to the round. Yeah, I had a plan 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.400 before I got to the two hundreds out the windows. 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.160 Right, you threw it out and threw it out. 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.000 Yeah, I'm I'm right now. I'm just trying to get 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:19.040 as healthy as possible. They put me on the medication, 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.560 the COVID medication. Uh, and that stuff is amazing. I'll 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.720 tell you. It's shorted. It supposedly gets rid of most 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.080 of the symptoms, and it shortens the time period that 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:30.120 you actually have COVID. 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:32.119 That stuff is amazing. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.960 But of course still, you know, having asthma, it has 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.560 an effect. So I'm just trying to go through, you know, 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.400 warm ups, trying to get as normal as possible each round. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.920 But and in my head, I'm just and I'm trying 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.359 to just throw away any negative thought that I have again, 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.800 keeping that confidence in the idea of I'm going to 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:52.320 go into this believing. 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.280 That I'm in the best shape of my life. 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.080 I like that this this is this is really dope 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.760 and really fascinating, I mean obvious for me and listening 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:03.960 to how you guys transition, Like when you think about 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.000 the two undermeters, you think about the hundred meters, so 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.600 you're two undimeter race. To me, I would think is 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.080 a strategy and a mixture of speed and endurance. Is 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.640 there a way you can break down the approach you 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.520 take as opposed to the under meter and the way 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.720 you approach the tournameter when it comes to strategy. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:24.520 Yeah, I'd say the in the one hundred. You know, 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:26.800 the way that me and my coach breaking down is 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.440 first to sixty and then you know that and then 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.040 my top and speed will hit around eighty meters right, 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.399 and then I'm just holding positions. If I try to 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:40.880 run any faster after eighty meters, you know I'm likely 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.960 to start breaking down in the two hundred. Is I 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.879 feel that it's a constant building up I'm constantly just 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:51.240 building up speed, building up speed, building up speed. I'm 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:55.199 very conscious of where I'm positionally in the lane. I 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.720 want to be in the middle of the lane to 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.280 the middle outside, and then when I come from the 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:02.600 turn to the straight, I moved straight to the middle 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:07.719 or middle inside and slingshot and off of that. You 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:11.080 can relate it to NASCAR, you know, they go come 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:15.560 back to me very similar in the two hundred. I'm 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:19.600 using that speed and then you know, just maintaining you know, 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.560 upright running positions. You know, after a while, when you've 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.119 run it so many times and you are striking the 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:29.040 ground with straight legs directly underneath your hips, it's easy 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:31.080 to run fast. It just feels like you're kicking. You're 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:33.560 on a skateboard and you're just kicking, pushing it along. 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:34.199 You know. 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.240 Uh, that's the mindset that I kind of have as 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:41.320 I'm running the two hundred, specifically, because it just keeps 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:43.520 It's just momentum building and building and building. 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:45.000 You don't really want it to slow down. 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:49.000 Unfortunately, that was not the strategy that I went in 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:53.840 with in this two hundred, because I felt that throughout 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:56.359 the whole rounds I had to constantly build up my 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:57.400 energy just that. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:58.439 I can get to baseline. 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:02.480 Noah, by the time I got to the finals, I'm like, 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:06.160 if I don't bring out the energy that I normally do, 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:09.960 I don't think my body would react in the same 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:12.800 way right now, I got it, I argue, I gotta 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:15.399 get it back to baseline so we can give myself 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:16.960 a fighting chance in the whole race. 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:27.399 Is there is there a preference of lamee because I 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:29.560 didn't think you look, I didn't think you wanted to 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:31.600 ken it beIN there, that far us out of in Tobogo, 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:33.840 that far outside of you is there? I mean a 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:37.200 lot of people late lane six seven five six seven, 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:39.520 I think you were in lane four. So what's your 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:43.119 what's your lane preference given? If no allows us one 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.200 hundred percent healthy and if training has been great leading 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.360 up to the meat, what's your lane preference? 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:52.040 Six or seven? I my faster times in six and 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.280 seven I could do damage and anything from four to eight. 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:00.600 After once you go below four, it's it gets difficult. 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:05.000 That turn gets really tight, and the way that you 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:09.840 have to position your body is it strains the body 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:12.480 to get around the turn so that you can give 0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:15.280 yourself a fighting chance on the second hundred. 0:22:15.880 --> 0:22:18.160 Yeah, that's a that's a really tight turn. 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:21.080 When you're on the inside lanes, you really you got 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.200 to be hugged at inside lane. 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:24.000 Really. 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:27.399 What's crazy is Michael Johnson broke the world record in 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.720 lane three because that he did me technically a preferred lane. 0:22:30.720 --> 0:22:32.800 I don't know how he did that because I've run 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.120 it lane three quite a few times. That that that's 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:40.280 not a that is not a preferred lane in my opinion. 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:43.200 You know, the lady that broke the Mardarina coke, she 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.240 broke the world record in lane too, in the four 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:45.920 hundred meters. 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:51.000 Yeah, I know, I know, I talking about that. 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:55.119 Yeah, we're not there's a there's a thing. There's some 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.160 testing going on state, but we'll get all. We're talking 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:02.399 about that off offline. So okay, you got COVID, and 0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.000 and everybody seemed to be making a lot of the 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:07.760 situation that you like, I need water, I need to 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.399 get so you're like, did you ever think about pulling 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.560 out the race? I'm surprised them that you raise because 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:15.639 normally COVID, you get COVID. We can't have you contamidate 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:19.520 anybody else, but the officials any say no, we got 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:22.520 to quarantine you for twenty four hours. You might not 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:25.840 be able to race. Was that ever a conversation, Yeah, 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:26.679 that was a conversation. 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.480 And while I was getting tested, I was talking with 0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:33.439 the team USA doctors, and they were telling me what 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:37.120 the rules are. They changed them from Tokyo. They said 0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:40.840 that anybody who has COVID is allowed to compete. It's 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:44.480 up to the governing body of their sport or their 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:48.280 country to decide how they want to handle the COVID situation. 0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:51.679 So, you know, I'm I'm just letting you know. 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:53.000 There were a lot of people in the village who 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.639 had COVID, you know that just didn't say I'm just 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:58.840 the most popular person who got COVID and said I 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:02.560 have it, And because of that, it sort of, you know, 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.080 it serves up a lot of controversy in itself. But 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.000 you know, I've as soon as I heard I got 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:10.880 COVID and I was able to compete, I said, I'm 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:15.399 going to try. You know, I'm not promised tomorrow, so 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:19.040 I'm gonna take advantage of what I have today. And 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:21.640 if it's so, if it's so, be it that I'm 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.560 not strong enough to make it through the rounds, then 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:25.879 I'm you know, I wasn't. 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:27.359 I wasn't able to do it. 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:29.560 But the fact that I was able to get to 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.200 the finals is and still grab bronze, And I was like, 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.040 that's a metal that I could easily just said no, 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.200 I got the gold, I'm good. No, no, I'm here now. 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.600 I thought this for four years. I trained for this 0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:42.720 for four years. Why not take the opportunity? 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.600 Obviously, you know that, you know the mythical number that's 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.280 out there, nineteen nineteen. You've taken down the American record 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:55.760 held by Michael Johnson. He broke that record in nineteen 0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.719 ninety six at the Olympics. Actually he broke it at 0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:03.879 the trials of nineteen six, the nineteen seventy nine a record, 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.200 So he's went up. I mean, what nineteen seventy two 0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.040 with the world record, if I'm not mistaken in seventy nine, 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.439 but it was that after to Michael broke it at 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:12.520 sea level in Atlanta. 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:16.200 So you know, you're gonna have to have the perfect race. 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.840 It's gonna have to be the perfect surface, and it's 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:20.919 gonna have to be the perfect You're gonna get the 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:25.480 perfect lane, and you're gonna have to have the perfect competitors. 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.440 Everything's gonna have to be perfect nor No. 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:30.760 Yeah, but that doesn't mean it can't happen, you know. 0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:34.399 I mean, I'm very aware of that, but I'll be 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.440 ready on the day you know, I can't be ready 0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:39.440 on every day. I try to be as ready as possible. 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.040 And that's you know what I just just try for. 0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:45.720 You know, I know that perfection is never a thing 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:49.639 that you can actually obtain, But on my journey for perfection, 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:53.720 I can obtain history. 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.560 I like it speak speaking of that journey and where 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.080 you are right now, at the top of your game, 0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.480 the best ass in the world at what you do. Uh, 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.800 many would view you in a in a way that 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.439 most would see obviously the villain and in a sense, 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.480 you know, you know, being at the top, people taking 0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:15.880 shots at you, you being uh somewhat brash and confident 0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:17.320 in the way you carry yourself and the way you 0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.000 do your job, and that that is okay. Do you 0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:24.440 embrace being a villain and in some sort of way 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.000 and and and enjoy some of the banter back and 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.720 forth or I'm just curious how you feel about it, 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:33.600 because you know, you always hear some of the things 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.760 from other athletes say and stuff, and uh, you fire 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:37.200 and back. 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.679 I mean, how do you take it personally? Do you 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:40.919 do you enjoy it? Do you like it? 0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.760 And just before you answer it, like for me myself 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:45.400 as a villain myself. 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:47.199 I love being in that spot. 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:47.879 I like it. 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:49.760 I like people talking about me. I like the trash 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.760 talk back and forth. I'm just curious, how do you 0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:52.720 how you feel about it? 0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:54.720 I have a mixed view on it. 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:59.200 In the sport itself, if we're talking about straight running 0:26:59.600 --> 0:27:01.560 your best to me, I'm better than you. I don't 0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:03.879 have probably. I love it, you know. I love the answer, 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.120 I love the energy. I love going back and forth. 0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:07.840 I don't have a problem with that at all. That's 0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.600 what I'd love to see. That's what gets everybody excited. 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:14.719 Now when people lie on my name outside the sport, 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:19.840 that's when I draw issues and draw lines. But control that, 0:27:20.359 --> 0:27:23.359 you know, I can't. I can only do my best. 0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.960 But you know, I'm very aware that people are gonna 0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.280 want to hear what they want to hear, and some 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.560 people are gonna take things different ways. And that's just 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.439 how we are as humans. You know, everybody has their 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.840 difference of opinions. Unfortunately, that is where I you know, 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.520 I gotta say, I got to remind myself of that. 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.800 You know, Okay, haters are. 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:42.600 Gonna hear what they want to hear, but the people 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.439 who support me, they're gonna want to hear what they 0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.960 hear as well. And at the same time, I see 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.080 so many people who are affected by what I do 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.760 in a positive light that I'm like, Okay, you know this, 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.320 This makes me feel good. You know, it's very comforting 0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.240 to see that, and uh and know that you know 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:05.359 I'm changing sport. You know, I'm trying to move forward. 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:06.320 As much as possible. 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:06.840 Uh. 0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:08.840 In terms of being the villain and being the hero, 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.600 I see myself as an anti hero. Sometimes you gotta 0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.000 get your hands dirty, and sometimes you know you got 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.160 you gotta try and shoot for the stars. 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:19.920 But we're not perfect. I mean, we're human. 0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.959 You know, we make mistakes, you know, but when we 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:24.760 try to do better, you know, I would hope you 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.600 try to do better. But yeah, I mean one of 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.760 my I feel biggest strengths is, you know, I listened 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.159 to the people around me, and when I mess up, 0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.160 I try to correct those. 0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.480 Wrongs and do the best and do better next time. 0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:38.120 Yeah. 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.120 One thing I can say is when you reach for 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.959 the stars and you get your hand dirty and you 0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:49.120 combine the two, you combine the two, it's it creates 0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:54.120 someone extraordinary. So from from one to another, keep doing 0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:56.240 it the way you're doing it and keep making noise. 0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.040 I appreciate it, man, I appreciate it. 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.560 No I think you got a lot of pushback. You 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.480 run the World Championship last year and unprompted, you said, 0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:08.440 you see these hats and they have World champions on it, 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.840 which we've always called the basketball players, we've always called 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:15.080 the NBA, the NFL, the Super Bowl champ we've always 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:18.800 called MLB, we've always called the World champs. And I 0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:20.840 think that's where a lot of the blowbacks, because it 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:24.320 seemed like one of America's best athletes were taking another 0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:28.480 was taken a shot at some of the America's best athletes, 0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:30.480 and I think it kind of put you under the 0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.640 eye because then you know, basketball players said what they said, 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.320 some football players chimed. And also and then for the 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.680 first time I actually saw some of these athletes like 0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:42.360 openly rooting against you. I mean you might now, I 0:29:42.400 --> 0:29:45.360 mean something you have probably never seen another country. You're 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:49.680 not gonna see the Dutch somebody from Dutch rooting against Femka, 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:54.120 a rooting against our carston LEAs from Norway or inga Britsin. 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:57.240 We're not gonna see that, do you think you brought 0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.479 some of this on yourself with that comment, or what 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.120 were you to accomplish by making that comment? 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.600 I think the last question that you asked, what was 0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.200 I trying to accomplish by making the comment, is the 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:14.160 most important one. Everybody sees the clip, everybody sees the thumb. Now, 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:19.000 everybody sees the sixteen seconds. But did anybody decide to 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.200 ask what was the question that he that was asked 0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:22.480 to me? 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:23.360 Right? 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.960 The question that was asked to me is how do 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.000 you feel knowing that when you go back to your 0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:33.280 own country? Unlike these other countries that celebrate their athletes 0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:37.960 on such a humongous stage, when to Bojo won his 0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.000 gold medal, he went back to a stadium filled with 0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:48.480 thirty thousand people celebrated. Yes, when I showed up back 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.200 home on my flight, of course some people recognized me, 0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:56.040 and I'm very thankful for that. There was no thirty 0:30:56.120 --> 0:31:00.720 thousand people. There was no limel driver ready to take 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:05.400 me home. There was no bus waiting. If I had 0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.160 my mom, I had my pops and they were ready 0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:09.520 to take me home, and I was ready. 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.720 To go to bed. None of that. 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:17.760 There was none of that, right, But that the difference. 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.320 I can understand the difference because we have a different 0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.720 way in America of seeing our sports. The problem that 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.600 I had was you were given the title of a 0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:32.640 world champion the people who weren't facing the world. That's 0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.040 where I drew the line and said, that's hurtful because 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.440 you already have those, but you're giving the title the 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:39.720 people who aren't doing that. 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:46.480 Nothing wrong with the man. They're great chances, they just 0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:47.760 didn't have the title. 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:51.480 Is nicolea Jokic one of the best players in the world. 0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:54.920 I'm gonna be hosie he that is. 0:31:55.560 --> 0:32:00.480 Okay, Luca Luka Doncic to okay. 0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:06.360 Jannis Athampo, Yes, he's okay. What's are They're great, they're 0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:07.600 great players, great players. 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:09.440 But they're world players. They're not from America. 0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.000 And the problem that you're going to run into, Noah, 0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.320 is that Boatswana doesn't have a whole lot of athletes 0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.760 to celebrate as opposed to Americans. If you look at 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:23.880 probably Kenya and Ethiopia, and and and and Sedaan in 0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:27.320 some of these other countries, the Dutch, the North Norwegians, 0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:31.120 we got NBA, we got MLB, we got football, we 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:35.800 got baseball, and so yeah, teams, they have parades. Nobody 0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.040 is getting for the most part, even Michael Phelps. I 0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:40.800 don't know if they did they have how many people 0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:42.400 showed up at M and T. I don't know if 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.720 Michael Phelps were eight goals, I don't know if he 0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.040 had thirty thousand show up. 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.400 I know they might have had a big contingent cheering 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:48.840 him on. 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:51.960 I just think that the difference is Noah is that 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:53.680 in a sport, in a in a in a country 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.320 like Botswana, or you're talking about a country, he's their hero. 0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.120 He he is here to both Swana, He's Lebron James. 0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.320 That's what he is to both Swaana. Yeah, yeah, I agree. 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:10.680 Uh you saying boat what he is to Jamaica. He's 0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:15.040 He's he is there. Michael Jordan, Yeah, I agree. Michael 0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.600 Jordan went in Chicago, they showed out for the parade, 0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:19.840 but but a problem when he went back to Wilmington 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:20.640 where he was from. 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:22.840 Ain't no thirty thousand show up for it? 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:24.640 Yeah? No, I agree. 0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:30.200 No, I agree one hundred that I'm not expecting that. 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.920 I'm not expecting the parade. I'm just showing that the 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:37.400 difference of how our sport is shown. And because the 0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.840 question that was asked again was how does it feel 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.560 knowing that when I go back home, it's not what 0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:44.600 somebody like to Bojo is getting. 0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:45.760 When he goes off right. 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:47.760 And again, I know what it is. 0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:48.440 I know what it is. 0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.560 I know we have you know, football and basketball, baseball, golf, 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.120 those are all above my sport. 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:54.600 I know that. 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:55.600 I'm cool with that. 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:57.840 I of course I want to make that better, but 0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:58.640 I understand that. 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.640 Again, the only problem I had was you have world 0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:07.840 champions but you're giving the title to people who aren't 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:09.200 facing the world. 0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.760 And you're giving them the title of world champion. 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.960 That's the only thing. That's the only thing me personally. 0:34:17.040 --> 0:34:20.839 Noah, I think if look, your two biggest meets are 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:24.120 the two biggest are the Olympics in the World Championships, 0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:28.080 and enough they don't the Diamond leagues. 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.200 Yeah, I mean if you stream it, you can see it. 0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:34.120 It's not it's not as televised as say football or 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:35.520 basketball or baseball. 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.719 And so it's hard for the America for the for 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:40.400 the cash, for the cash person. 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.839 Everybody has a favorite team, whether you know the Cowboys fans, 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.600 they're all over the place. The Steelers fans, the Packers, whomever, 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.360 and so it's hard when I only really get a 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:55.320 chance to see no Allows maybe what three four times 0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:57.960 and a four year span and a four year cycle. 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:00.959 I agree and just said it's something that I talked 0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:06.680 to World Athletics, USATS, the Diamond leagues constantly about. I mean, 0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.600 you know what the hardest pill is gonna be for 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.399 us to swallow as a sport. Sprint just came out. 0:35:12.680 --> 0:35:16.560 It is successful around the world, it's successful in the US. 0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:18.600 They're about to come up with another season and it's 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:22.920 gonna do great. The hard part is that we as 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.120 a sport are not ready for the popularity that is 0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.480 gonna come. Everybody's gonna say, I want to be a 0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.480 track and field fan. I want to follow Fred, I 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.840 want to follow Noah, I want to follow Arion. 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.040 Guess what, we. 0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.840 Don't even have a place to tell them to go 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:41.920 to watch the track because it's in every other different country, 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.920 a different place, and it's you gotta get a VPN 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.480 and you gotta find your own website. 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:48.399 You gotta go on these. 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:52.880 Back alley places to just walk TV in a different language. 0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:59.440 We ourselves are not ready infrastructurally wise to say, hey, world, 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.759 get get come on, we got something amazing for you. 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:04.480 And that's the hard part. 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.520 We just you know, the rights just for the domind 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:12.000 leagues just got dropped by NBC and moved the flow track. 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:15.719 Now we're putting it behind the paywall and making it 0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:17.480 even harder for fans to become new. 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:21.759 Yeah, Okay, it hurts because I knew this was gonna happen. 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:23.600 I knew that this was that sprint was gonna be 0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.880 successful because we have great athletes, great stories. The second parties, 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.360 we are not ready for it yet. We need to 0:36:29.440 --> 0:36:32.000 get ready and we need to do it fast because 0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:32.440 it's coming. 0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:36.360 To l A is Uh is the is the the 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:39.360 event you're talking about? Is Michael Johnson what he just launched? 0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:41.640 I think he got sid McLaughlin. I think he had 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.759 had a couple of Grand Slam track, Grandson Grand Slam track. Yes, 0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.920 Uh have they? Have they approached you about being an 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:50.120 active participant in this. 0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:55.520 We've I've been in talks between me, Michael and my agent. 0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.440 We've been talked since the day I heard about it, 0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:01.839 trying to get as much information, trying to get as 0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.400 much you know, a feed on it, a feel for 0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:06.040 what's going on. 0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:08.000 There's a lot that I like that he's doing. 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:09.880 There's a few things that I think could be a 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.160 little better. But the thing that's stopping me at the 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:14.040 heart of it is I have yet to hear a 0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:18.319 TV provider. You know, again, what good is it if 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.760 we're producing these great times, these great. 0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:24.919 Shows, these great it's the problem. 0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.200 We're in the same problem with the Diamond Leagues and 0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.880 with World Championships. I need to hear a TV provider. 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.440 I need to know that he's going to be able 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:32.799 to get seen consistently. 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.920 Yeah, I think that, and that's one of the important 0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:40.440 things to grow the sport is the exposure. You have 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.759 to have the exposure, you have to have the visibility 0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.480 also on on on the back end of that, and 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:50.120 what I like is is the more personalities that we 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.920 have in track and feel those that don't just go 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:54.840 out and do their job and just do it quietly, 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:58.320 but make noise while they're doing it. It creates a 0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.960 certain excitement for people that don't watch or just might 0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:03.680 be just casual fans. 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:04.680 Just want to tune in. 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.600 Yeah, it forces and it makes people want to tune 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.080 in and see what's gonna happen, especially when you have 0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:12.840 guys that are polarizing like yourself, that had the personality 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.640 and had the enthusiasm, and it's a certain aura about 0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:18.120 them that makes you want to watch even if you're 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:22.320 not a track fan. But again, man, the TV exposure 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:26.439 invisibility is very important, and it's sad in twenty twenty 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.319 four that it's not where it should be where more 0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:29.080 people can watch it. 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.920 No, I know you didn't participate in the four by one, 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.440 but what was your level of disappointment? Because if you 0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.719 look at what they ran and qualify to qualify, they 0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:42.000 ran thirty seven forty. 0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.520 Thirty seven forty would have won the goal if I'm 0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:45.120 not mistaken. 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:47.719 Canada ran thirty seven fifty, which won the gold medal 0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.360 and the time that they qualified with. And one of 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.360 the problems that I have you was the only person 0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:56.280 that's that that didn't run in the qualifying rounds. 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:58.959 You were gonna run anchor. Why would they. 0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:03.360 Move the championship the World the World Championship team Coleman 0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:07.640 handed the baton to Fred. Currently, why would you take 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.640 Fred from second leg and put him on anchor when 0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.920 Fred has been running second leg for the last two 0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:14.840 to three big meets. 0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:20.399 There's a lot I want to say, but I'm gonna 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:20.880 start with this. 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:24.480 I first want to give props to that team for 0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.160 not throwing anybody under the bus after they did not. 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:28.080 Complete the task. 0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:31.719 Because if we want to get better, we can't be 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:32.480 blaming people. 0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:34.440 So I don't want to come over, come out here 0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:35.480 and start blaming people. 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:37.000 No, I'm blaming the coaches. 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:45.359 That is usually, But if therein lies the problem, how 0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:46.879 many people are in the coaches here? 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:52.400 That is the thing that gets USA in trouble. 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.240 Because you got to know that some of these athletes 0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:59.880 are Nike athletes with Nike coaches. I'm an Adidas athlete, 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:05.600 Adidas coach, and some coaches opinions personal are held at 0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:09.680 higher regard than other coaches opinions. And when one person 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:14.520 is taken down I e. Me, it creates now a 0:40:14.719 --> 0:40:18.040 shift and everybody wants to go into different places because 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.040 they're a little bit scared, and they're a little bit nervous, 0:40:20.160 --> 0:40:22.160 and they want to get they want to do it 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:27.200 a little different. And I feel in that vacuum of 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.759 me leaving, it provided everybody a chance to say, Okay, 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.279 well we can now switch it up a different way, 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:35.840 and unfortunately. 0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.240 Because of that, we weren't prepared. 0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:40.600 You know, those were those were handoffs that were not 0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:46.080 practiced when we practice, and seeing it was what happened 0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.440 was was heartbreaking. It was truly heartbreaking because I believe 0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:51.600 there were two in my head, there were two great 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:53.680 options that we had. One was to use the team 0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:55.960 from the prelimbs that would have got the job done, 0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.960 and the other was to put Kenny on the anchor leg. Unfortunately, 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.320 that's not the route that we went and it just 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:05.439 didn't get done. And it's heartbreaking to see. 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:11.080 But no, yeah, five Olympics, we haven't been able to 0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:12.680 get the baton around five. 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.520 All I know is every time I'm only angry we win. 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:16.520 That's all I know. 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:19.399 Well, do you need to suck it up? You should? 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.359 With that mask on one, it sucked it up, bed. 0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.480 I was thinking about that when I was watching it. 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.680 We had we had Quincy holl On and Quincy said 0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.040 that I know you said you wanted to run not 0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:43.200 only the four by one, but the four by four. 0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:46.279 Quincy believed that you could lay down a blistering time 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:47.200 in the open. 0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.279 Four What do you think you? What can you? What 0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:51.560 can you what's your pr currently and what do you 0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:53.280 think you can run with some training? 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.840 Oh, I haven't run the four open force since high school. 0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.680 I think I ran like forty seven for but I've 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:04.400 run forty four splits. I've run forty five splits multiple times. 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.720 If I trained, I'm put like this. So dream Richards. 0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:11.840 He runs for Trinidad and Tobago. We trained together. 0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:12.760 He is an. 0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:17.640 Nineteen eight two hundred meter runner and he decided he 0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.520 was going to focus more than the four hundred this year. 0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:23.719 He was in that finals. Yeah he got four, right, 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:27.439 maybe got four? Yeah, he got fourth with forty three 0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:31.680 seven new national record. I believe it's in the all 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.240 time top ten, all time fastest times. 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:35.760 Fourth. 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:42.080 He got fourth. My fi R's nineteen three in the 0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.160 two hundred, and I have some pretty good strength on 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.320 me as well. I truly would like to take a 0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.319 shot at the world record if I decided to move 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.440 to the four hundred, truly and give it my one 0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:53.920 hundred percent for multiple years. 0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:56.640 Yeah, I'm going after the world record if I'm If I'm. 0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.799 On the world record in the two or the world 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:00.600 record in the four. 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.040 In the four, I'm doing it in a serious well. 0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:08.800 Noah, do you understand Do you understand those times forty 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.560 three oh three in nineteen nineteen. 0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.600 I'm gonna tell you this. My brain understands it. My 0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:16.640 body don't know the difference. 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:21.840 Oh wow, I like that. I like that difference. 0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.560 Why would my body think that's a hard song. My 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.520 body don't know that that's hard. If I keep telling 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.600 it to get faster and faster, it's gonna try and adapt, 0:43:32.360 --> 0:43:34.359 It's gonna keep moving towards that time. 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:39.920 Can I ask you this, Noah, let's just say, for 0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:41.799 the sake of Arment twenty eight is gonna be here 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.560 before you know it. So that's four years away, and 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:46.800 I know your pride and I know your baby. You 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:49.279 got the goal in the hundred meters, but you're really 0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:51.839 known as a two hundred meter guy. If you don't 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.359 win the gold medal at the Olympics in the two 0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:57.640 hundred meters, what is Noah Lias gonna tell himself. 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:02.200 I'm going to tell myself. I'm stills. I'm still the 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.839 man I was when I showed up and after I left. 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:10.000 Of course, I want the gold and I'm gonna make 0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:12.279 sure that I tried my one hundred percent to get 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:15.240 it done. But I will tell you that just because 0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:17.520 I don't have the gold, that doesn't make me less 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.880 of a person. That doesn't make me less of a 0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:22.840 human being. That just means that I wasn't able to 0:44:22.920 --> 0:44:25.160 get the task that I set myself up for. But 0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:27.640 I will be so disappointed in myself if I didn't 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:28.640 give it one hundred percent. 0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:32.000 The world will be here if I'm not mistaken. The 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.160 worlds are in Tokyo. That's gonna that's gonna be that's 0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:36.480 gonna be here before you know it. 0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:44.160 And I'm already pre qualified because I'm the world championship 0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:45.640 in both, so I automatically get to buy. 0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:52.040 So what are you you looking to defend your crown 0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:53.400 in the hundred and the two hundred? 0:44:53.920 --> 0:44:56.920 Of course, I want the way I'm gonna see these 0:44:56.960 --> 0:45:01.319 next three years is I want to prefer effect how 0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.960 to handle the double. When I was going through the 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:08.319 last cycle, Olympic cycle, I was trying to perfect how 0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:10.000 to make my two hundreds so good that I can 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:10.680 run the hundred. 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.480 Now I've been able to have both of them. Now 0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:15.640 I want to say I want to be. 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.840 Prepared to run my fastest each and every round. I 0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:20.640 want to know that I want to know the hundred 0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:22.320 like the back of my hand. I want to know 0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:26.160 the two hundred like both of my hands. I want 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:30.080 to make sure that I am fully prepared, creating blueprints 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:33.680 going down each year, saying, hey, when we get to 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:35.719 the Olympics, when we get to LA, we're going to 0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.400 be so prepared that no matter what is thrown at us, 0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:39.200 what we ready for it. 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.120 When you think about that, having to be able to 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.120 go round by round, whether it be the hundred or 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:49.560 two hundred, then you have competition, understanding everybody's strengths and weaknesses. 0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.319 Then you have to push your. 0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:54.120 Body to a point to where you can go round 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:56.359 by round where you don't have to exert that much 0:45:56.560 --> 0:46:00.440 energy and you're that much better than everybody else. Do 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.400 you I mean, when I sit here and think about it, 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:05.560 do you understand how difficult a task that is to 0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:07.919 push your body to a point to where it's able 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.200 to do that round by round and still win and 0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:13.640 run fast, but also come out on top and win 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:14.440 the one and the two. 0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:19.040 Of course, of course it's difficult. Of course everybody wants it. 0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:22.440 If it was easy, everybody would do it. Yeah, hold on, now, 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.200 I'm not here to do the easy. I'm not here 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.600 to do the mundane. That's not what excites me. I 0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:28.960 want to do the things that nobody's done, the things 0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.400 that are hard, the things that challenge my body. The 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.120 reason I like to get up and practice every day 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.400 is because I like to see what my body can 0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.560 truly do. What is what if I push it and 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:42.320 do everything right to the fullest, what can happen? I 0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:44.279 want to see that every time. 0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:47.400 No, can you provide some context? 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:50.560 There's this Time magazine story that came out that revealed 0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:53.400 that while you were negotiating your contract with Adidas, they 0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.720 offered you an invite to a shoe release for Anthony Edwards. 0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:02.600 And I think everybody's read to quote. Can you provide context? 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.160 But what transpired? I mean, look, we don't need to 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:09.440 get into negotiations, but what transpired? If what's being reported, 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:11.200 how accurate is that? 0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:14.880 So? What what was going on at the time? I 0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:18.200 was in negotiations for over a year with Adidas to 0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:20.120 get to get the contract. 0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:24.560 Them offering me, you know, to go to as for 0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.720 shoe release, who had nothing to do with the contract. 0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:28.919 They just thought it would be cool that I would 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:30.760 show up as one of their Adidas athletes. 0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:32.120 Unfortunately agree. 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.320 They asked for it very late. They asked for it 0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:38.360 probably about two weeks in advance, and I was already 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.160 scheduled to walk in the Hugo Boss show in Milan, 0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:46.600 which was a day and a half before his shoe release. 0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:49.040 So at first we were trying to figure out ways 0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.200 that we can get there, and it was like, yeah, 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:51.520 this this. 0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:53.160 This isn't good. This isn't gonna work. 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:55.440 There's no way that I'd be able to walk and 0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:58.040 then get on the flight and have energy enough to 0:47:58.120 --> 0:47:59.799 be able to go to this advan because it wasn't 0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:01.840 just so shoe released. They were also gonna, you know, 0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:03.880 have us go to a little baby concert and we 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:04.719 were gonna be just signed. 0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:06.320 It was gonna be a lot. It was gonna be 0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:06.640 a lot. 0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:10.120 And I was already drained from you know, flying over 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:13.640 already doing the fashion shows, doing the walks, you know, 0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:14.720 going to other events. 0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:16.600 You know, I was already drowned like this, There's no 0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:18.120 way I'd be able to physically do this. 0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:21.960 I know, I agree with you flying overseas as then 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.279 it's someone that's flown overseas and then come back. 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:26.880 You kind of jet lag, but you probably shouldn't lift it. 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:27.160 Is that? 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.600 Is that the other stuff where you get into trouble, 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.840 where people is picking apart what you said is because like, 0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:35.520 oh no, I'm the world champ and he's getting this 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:39.040 and you have the wordwithal the forward thinking to see 0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.960 that he's gonna be special and why can't you guys 0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:42.640 see that with me? 0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:43.799 Now? 0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:48.360 I will say, being very vulnerable in this moment, I 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:52.920 felt very unheard at that moment with the DNS, I 0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.600 felt very unheard. And we and and and to give 0:48:55.640 --> 0:48:58.320 an example, people do a lot of things. They what 0:48:58.400 --> 0:48:59.799 do you do when you feel on her? You try 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:03.640 out louder? Yes, M And I felt that I have 0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:07.839 had many conversations trying to shout and it hadn't gotten 0:49:07.880 --> 0:49:12.200 through right. And unfortunately that was one of my moments 0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:15.359 where I felt I had to shout to even get 0:49:15.440 --> 0:49:19.400 them to look my way okay in that time article 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:22.120 because they asked me if I wanted to take it 0:49:22.200 --> 0:49:26.600 out and I decided I was not going to because 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.160 I had to stand on my decision. At that moment, 0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:33.640 I felt that I had to shout to get even 0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:37.440 a conversation about what I wanted to happen. 0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:40.520 Or what was going on at that point to be 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.160 to move forward? Could it be better? 0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:45.360 Probably? 0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.280 Was there more ways to do it? Probably? 0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:52.600 But in that moment I felt that I had taken 0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:56.480 so many steps in other ways that I had to 0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:57.439 shout at this moment. 0:49:58.520 --> 0:49:59.920 Let me let me ask this one and follow up. 0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:05.120 Do you regret your decision not to have that removed 0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:05.760 from the article? 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:13.879 I don't believe so at the moment. This conversation could 0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:15.520 be had in a year and I could have a 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:19.400 different answer. At this moment, I do not feel so, 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:22.799 because I still feel if I did not shout. 0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:27.040 At that strument, I would not get preamble too. Oh, 0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:30.560 he is serious. And when I said it at the Olympics, 0:50:30.640 --> 0:50:32.399 they knew it was still on my heart. 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:37.319 Wait, Joe, No, I was. I was good. 0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:39.840 I was good because you you hit, you hit on 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:41.440 what I was? What I was going to piggyback and 0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:42.160 ask as well. 0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:44.200 Another question, Noah. 0:50:45.280 --> 0:50:47.439 In track and field, there's only been two men that's 0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:53.000 ever had a shoot, Michael Johnson and Usain Boat two. Uh. 0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:55.520 Michael Johnson had the world record in one hundred and 0:50:55.560 --> 0:50:58.080 the two hundred and he don't know anything but gold medals. 0:50:58.239 --> 0:50:58.799 I think he's a. 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:01.480 Four time world champ in the four hundred, two time 0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:04.239 world champ in the two hundred, he's a two time 0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:07.399 champ and the four hundred, and he's one time champ 0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.759 in the two hundred. And you say, I just say 0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.359 you saying boat, I don't even say anything else. Yeah, 0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:18.320 what makes Why do you believe that you deserve to 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:22.360 be in that category? With those guys looking at their accomplishments, 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:25.600 not to say you're not done yet, but looking at 0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:29.160 their accomplishment accomplishments, looking at yours, Why did no allows 0:51:29.200 --> 0:51:30.320 believe he deserves to shoot? 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:34.080 The reason I believe it is twofold one. We look 0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:38.560 at Michael Johnson. Michael Johnson, he is a He's a 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:39.799 track guy, through and through. 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:40.319 That's all. 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.560 He's track and he loves track, and that's what he 0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:46.560 decided his lane was going to be. I don't feel 0:51:46.719 --> 0:51:50.960 that in his time period, we had the social media, 0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:54.800 we had the marketing, the self marketing true to be 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:57.040 able to push it forward. Of course, he had Nike, 0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.800 and Nike was doing very well, but they wanted to 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:04.160 keep it. You know, I don't think that they really 0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:06.000 wanted to keep pushing it and I don't know if 0:52:06.080 --> 0:52:08.680 Michael Johnson wanted to do the work or not to 0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:11.239 market it as well as No, I don't know how 0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:14.719 much they they had in their contract to keep that 0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:15.440 shoe alive. 0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:18.320 That's where I'm going to leave it with that. 0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:22.600 The time period wasn't right with Usain Bolt, the CEO 0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:27.000 that actually gave the Bolt his shoe, is now what 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:32.239 Adida is. And I've had conversations and I think you 0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:35.320 saying was very excited in the moment, and then he 0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:38.160 got excited about something else when it was time to 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:41.719 do you know, the the underground work, the marketing, the 0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:46.000 commercials and stuff like that, and that scared a lot 0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:52.239 of companies I think in that moment. Also you saying 0:52:52.440 --> 0:52:57.840 is Jamaican. The marketing in the US is different. I 0:52:57.960 --> 0:53:00.320 feel one of our in the US is is that 0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:03.279 it turns out when it comes to marketing, entertainment and 0:53:03.400 --> 0:53:05.080 marketing is the US is bread and butter. 0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.120 We know how to do that, like that's just our thing. 0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:11.600 So now that I'm an American in a time period 0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:15.239 where its self, marketing is very popular and it's very 0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:19.560 you know, very prevalent. It's strong. You know, everybody wants 0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:21.759 to do it. Everybody's looking at it. They want the brand, 0:53:21.800 --> 0:53:26.160 they want the identity. You know, a person's identity is 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.520 more marketed sometimes than a brand at times, and now 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:34.880 we see them as brands. I know that I can 0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:37.120 do the work, I know that I can get the metals. 0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:39.440 But at the end of the day, I think that 0:53:39.600 --> 0:53:43.360 it comes down to guys. You now have the title 0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:44.799 of the world's fastest man. 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:46.760 What do you do with that title? 0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.440 You tell them, don't you want to have the shoes 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:52.799 of the world's fastest man. Don't you want to put 0:53:52.840 --> 0:53:55.640 those shoes on your feet. I'm wearing the same shoes 0:53:55.640 --> 0:53:57.680 as the world's fastest man. It's gonna make me so fast. 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:02.840 But the shoes that the world fastest man wears track spikes. 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.640 Not only only wears track spikes on the track, but 0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:11.440 he trains in tennis shoes. He came out, he's in 0:54:11.520 --> 0:54:14.080 tennis shoes. And when people go out and run marathons, 0:54:14.120 --> 0:54:15.919 they wear tennis shoes. And when you're in the gym, 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:20.480 you wear tennis shoes. You wearing tennis shoes. Everybody wears 0:54:20.520 --> 0:54:23.640 tennis shoes. And the only reason that you don't see 0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:28.399 more marketing for tennis shoes and individual runners is because 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:31.479 they just haven't done it. But why are we saying 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:33.600 just because it hasn't been done mean it can't be done. 0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.399 Yeah, I mean if it was, if it was gonna happen, 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:41.160 the timing is now. It's timing is now. Especially while 0:54:42.080 --> 0:54:44.120 while the stove is hot is I'll call it right now, 0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:47.000 the stove is hot. You are the stove hot. You 0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.960 take advantage of that. And there's there's always a market 0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:53.120 for everything, no matter what it is. Everything is marketable, 0:54:53.280 --> 0:54:55.759 especially when it has the right push and people behind it, 0:54:56.160 --> 0:54:56.760 so there's. 0:54:56.640 --> 0:55:00.839 Really no excuse on their end. And this is why 0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:02.040 we need. 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:05.920 Certain individuals in positions of power to make these things 0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:08.160 and transitions a little bit easier. And it shouldn't have 0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:10.520 to be a fight. We have to yell and scream 0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:12.439 all the goddamn time to get ship done. 0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:16.080 Well you, uh no, You're gonna have to. 0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:17.640 You're gonna have to start posting a little bit more 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:20.520 on IG You saying has fourteen million IG follows, you 0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:21.480 got one point five? 0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:24.680 Give us your I G handle you own I G 0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:25.320 and Twitter? 0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:30.920 No Joe eighteen outllows Noah on Twitter? You know Joe 0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:34.640 eighteen on TikTok. You know, I mean you you're saying, 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:36.400 has it has had his career. I'm still in the 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:37.200 middle of my career. 0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:43.520 Yeah, listen, go out and follow nor Allows at the 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:45.920 at the app that he just gave you. 0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:47.520 It's been a pleasure. 0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:50.840 Three time world champion the two hundred meters, one time champion, 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:54.880 one hundred meters at the World Olympic, gold medalists anchored 0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:58.319 the world the World Championship team last year. 0:55:59.120 --> 0:55:59.799 Go ahead, o, Joe. 0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:02.520 I do want to know before you go, how nervous 0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:04.239 would you be if you had to race me. I'm 0:56:04.320 --> 0:56:06.000 just curious. I'm just just thinking about it. 0:56:06.400 --> 0:56:06.719 Race you. 0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:09.040 I'm gonna be pretty nervous for you. I don't want 0:56:09.040 --> 0:56:09.760 you to catch cramp. 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:16.520 Oh no oh, this was hypothetical. I was just curious. 0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:18.360 I wanted to know how nervous you would be. But 0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:20.799 you think I would catch the cramp. But I drink, 0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:22.440 I drink pickle juice. I'll be fine. 0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:28.520 Oh, Joe, I forgot, I forgot. We forgoten Tyreek Tyreek. 0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:30.720 Say you want someone you know him? I can't believe 0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:32.600 you know who Tyreek he is. Don't do that, Noah, 0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:33.000 you know. 0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:36.799 I'm gonna be honest. I forget his name all the time. 0:56:37.160 --> 0:56:38.279 I'm teet to be honest. 0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:38.719 If it's not. 0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:43.160 About track and it ain't about legal legends. My yeah, 0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:51.839 he's saying like this, Tyrie is just chasing Cloud the man. 0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.360 Anytime somebody fast comes up, he says he wants to 0:56:54.440 --> 0:56:56.440 race him. If he really wanted to race people, he 0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.759 would have showed up like DK me and the man 0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:03.040 in the sixty meters this year in the master's division, 0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:05.080 the man Dodger smoke, I don't got time for that. 0:57:08.239 --> 0:57:10.960 Hey, Hey, Rinki calling you out. 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:12.839 Hey, you know what, Let's get a couple of said, 0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:14.759 let's see if we can get some sponsors. Would you 0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:17.080 be willing to race Rieka in a sixty or one 0:57:17.160 --> 0:57:19.320 hundred if we got some sponsors to put some money up. 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:25.120 Und we can raise if he if he's serious about it, 0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:27.880 If he's truly serious about it, I'm not talking about 0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:30.200 you just talking on the internet and you ain't actually 0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:31.960 coming to me and talking to my agent and saying, 0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:35.320 let's say something up. You are seriously about it, you'll 0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:36.080 see me on the track. 0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:41.200 All right there, you ladies and gentlemen. The current fastest 0:57:41.240 --> 0:57:43.880 man in the world. No allows, nor thank you for 0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:47.320 giving us some of you. I appreciate you representation. Thanks 0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:49.760 for the opportunity, guys, so lou all right, we'll see 0:57:49.800 --> 0:57:50.400 you down the road. 0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:52.480 Good luck. Hey, you got the meats coming up? Are 0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:54.400 you done for this year? You shutting it down or 0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:55.520 you can do for this year? 0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:56.600 Man, I'm shutting it down. 0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.800 Okay, all right, all right, best of luck, bro, and 0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:03.040 congratulations on one hundred meter goal. Bron's in the two 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:05.840 hundred meters. Get healthy and we'll see you next year 0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:09.880 in the world. Good luck, Bro, Thank you, no allowed, 0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:13.920 ladies and gentlemen. That was that was that was awesome. 0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:16.720 It was great to have Noah on and to uh 0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:18.920 to get an opportunity to pick his brain and talk 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:22.240 to him about the what he's what he's thinking going 0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:25.440 into one hundred meters uh, the COVID diagnosis, and being 0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:27.200 able to try to still go out there to compete 0:58:27.240 --> 0:58:27.560 for goal. 0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:29.320 He ends up getting bronze. 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:32.400 Nothing to hang his head about with that, but a 0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:37.880 tremendous effort, great conversation, Oh Joe, very very forthcoming, didn't 0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:42.160 dodge anything. Every question that we set for answered it. 0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:44.280 And that's what that's all, that's all we can ask, 0:58:44.440 --> 0:58:45.280 that's all we can ask.