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How 20 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: does a teen girl in Highland County, Ohio, just vanish 21 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: on a Sunday morning, leaving no trace behind. Well, I 22 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: think there are traces to be found. Join us to 23 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: analyze the clues left behind. Where is Madison? Crime Stories 24 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. 25 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us here on Fox Nation 26 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: and Serious XM one eleven. Where's Madison Bell? Take a 27 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: listen to our friend Jessica Schmidt at Fox nineteen for 28 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Madison Belle's loved ones. The past twenty four hours have 29 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: been draining. Her mother, Melissa, has barely gotten any sleep. 30 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, I'm tired, I'm worried, I'm stressed. You know, 31 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: I've cried so many tears that there's none left. My 32 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: eyes are just dry, There's none left. Eighteen year old Madison, 33 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: known to many as Maddie, is missing. She left her 34 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: house Sunday for a tanning appointment and never came home. 35 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: Investigators in Highland County found her car abandoned in a 36 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: church parking lot hours later, her key and cell phone 37 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: still inside. I'm trying to stay strong for her because 38 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: I have to and I have to bring her home. 39 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: Search crews haven't stopped looking for Madison, using technology and 40 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: different techniques to try to track her down. They brought 41 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: in some dogs. We gave them some of the materials 42 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: that she had that we found that this to get 43 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: a cent of her, just to see if that would help, 44 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: if they could like trace, find out any anything that way, 45 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: any direction. Where is Maddie? With me an all star 46 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: panel to break it down and put it back together again. 47 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Jamie shell Nutt twenty seven years Metro major case SWAT 48 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: officer now lawyer, Doctor Daniel Bober, renowned forensic psychiatrists. She 49 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: can find him on insta at doctor Daniel Bober, Director 50 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: of the Cold Case Research Institute, Cheryl McCollum and crime 51 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: scene expert Emily Nestor, crime reporter and podcast host of 52 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Mile Marker one eighty one. Special guests joy Us, Cody Man, 53 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: this is Maddie's boyfriend and right now to Mattie's mom, 54 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: Melissa Bell. Melissa, thank you for being with us. Thank 55 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate this so much. Miss Bell, Well, 56 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: you appreciate you being here. Thank you. Tell me what 57 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: you recall the moment you heard Mattie was not where 58 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: she was supposed to be well. I'm the one that 59 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: discovered that Maddie was very I raised this girl to 60 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: be very like. She was always reaching out to me, 61 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: trusted in me, you know, always checking in with me. 62 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: She knew I would worry. She's my only child. I 63 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: knew when a certain amount of time had passed, because 64 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: it was way more time than what was needed to 65 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: drive to hand and back. And if she was going 66 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: to be late, she would have texted me that. And 67 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: that's consistent through her ever since she got her license. 68 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: No matter even if she was with her faint cousins 69 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: or whatever, she would always text me, I'm gonna be late, mom, 70 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: don't worry. I'm gonna be five minutes late. So after 71 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: forty five minutes pass, I've started to like think, while 72 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: she should be home, you know, she should be coming 73 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: home soon. But then I thought, no, you know, ease up. 74 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: She's eighteen. Maybe she had to wait, or maybe she 75 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: fell asleep in the painting bed. So I give it 76 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: more time. And when I say more time, I'm saying 77 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: like minutes, so you know, five, ten, fifteen minutes, and 78 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: I just immediately after I tried to start texting. After 79 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes pass, approximately I start texting her, Mattie, Mattie, 80 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: and then I said, Maddie, did you fall asleep? Because 81 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: the day before she said she had fallen asleep in 82 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: the painting bed, So that was my first did she 83 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: fell asleep? And she didn't answer anything. I tried to call. 84 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: She didn't answer. That's so unlike her, Melissa. I got 85 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: a couple of pointed questions to ask you with me. 86 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: Mattie's mom, Melissa Bell, also with me, her longtime boyfriend 87 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: Cody Mann, and Emily Nestor, crime reporter. Back to Mattie's mom, 88 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: miss Bell, you stated that she had been gone several 89 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: minutes longer than you thought she should have been. Quick question, 90 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: how close to your home where you live with Maddie? 91 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: How close was the Tan Salon? Approximately? Maybe? Is it 92 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: five miles out there? Five miles? Ten minutes? Max? Yeah, 93 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: you said you cut out on me. You said she 94 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 1: was how many minutes late? Did you say twenty five 95 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: minutes or so? She had been gone forty five minutes 96 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: before I started to like, at forty five minutes, I 97 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: started to worry because it's a twenty minute bed, you know, 98 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: ten minutes, ten minutes, And I started to just kind 99 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: of like not worry but get I was like, ohom, 100 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: she should be coming home, you know at forty five minutes. 101 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: Can I tell you just yesterday my son went fishing 102 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: and you know, of course made sure he made it. 103 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: He sent me a picture. Then after an hour I 104 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: was doing the same thing. You just said, he's up. Yeah, 105 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: I let him go. But after an hour I started 106 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: calling and texting because you know, I was worried. So 107 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: that's just what you did. Now, did she call the 108 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Tanning Salon? I did not, because Manison has always answers. 109 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: She always answers or text me always. Never has she 110 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: not responded that. Did she ever make it to the 111 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Tanning salon? No not, according to surveillance footage. The surveillance 112 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: fittish at the Tanning Salon. But yeah, that they caught 113 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 1: of the parking lot. They did not see her car 114 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: ever pull in there. Okay, that day you just got 115 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: me past my next question. I was wondering if she 116 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: ever came in. Certainly they would know if she came in, right, Yeah, 117 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: they had a sign and she and she did not, 118 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: So she never made it. Now to Emily nest Or 119 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Crime Reporter podcast, has Mile marker one eighty one. Emily 120 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: tell me about where her car was found. So her 121 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: car was found really in close proximity to where this 122 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: tanning bed is, and this tanning this tanning salon is 123 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: actually part of almost like a convenience store that sits 124 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: in a fork in the road where two roads meet. 125 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: And on that state route road there there is a 126 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: large church with a large lot that wraps around and 127 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: that lot has two ways to get in and out. 128 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: Let me process what you're saying, large church, two ways 129 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: in and what were you saying about the tanning salon. 130 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: Tanning salon isn't just a tanning establishment. So you've got 131 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: an assortment of things. I actually went in there last night. 132 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: They saw everything from beer to cheesecake. There's a little 133 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: deli counter and then there's tanning in the back. Gotcha 134 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: where is ada in relation to the church. It's adjacent. 135 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: It sits across the roadway in a fork in the road. 136 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: Fork in the road. Okay, so on the other side 137 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: of the fort or in the middle of the fort 138 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: in the middle actually, so really just across the street. Yes, 139 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's within shouting distance. Gosh, guys, take a 140 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: listen to our phrase at WLWT five. This is Karen Johnson. Beautiful, 141 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful, very responsible. Nettie Bell described by relatives as 142 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: a good girl full of school spirit. She's the cheer 143 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: captain at Greenfield's McLean High School, and her mother, Melissa Bell, 144 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: says her daughter was looking forward to this week. This 145 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: was senior week. She would not have missed these events 146 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: for anything. Yesterday morning, around ten o'clock, Mattie left her 147 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: home to go tanning here at the Country Corner Market, 148 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: not far from her Greenfield home. She'd ever made it 149 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: there that morning. She did not sign in. The two 150 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,239 Speaker 1: mornings before that she did, but that morning video surveillance 151 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: doesn't show her car making it to the tanning area. 152 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: When she didn't return home or answer her mother's tech 153 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: store phone calls, Melissa says she went looking for her 154 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: daughter and spotted her car in the parking lot of 155 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: the Good Shepherd Church, which is across the street from 156 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: the market. I noticed her phone laying in the car, 157 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: her keys are in the ignition, and money that she 158 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: had in the pull out thing was still there, and 159 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: the car was unlocked. Mattie was nowhere to be found. 160 00:10:54,559 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: Prime Stories with Nancy grace. Guys, won't you help us 161 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: find this teen girl? Her name Madison Bell. She, as 162 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: you just heard, is a cheerleading captain. It's senior week 163 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: at school. Should never ever miss all that her mother 164 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: is with me today begging for your help. The tip 165 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: line is nine three seven three nine three fourteen twenty 166 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: one repeat nine three seven three nine three one four 167 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: two one or eight four four seven two seven nine 168 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: one one one that's easy to remember eight four four 169 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: seven two seven nine one one one with me, her mom, Melissa, 170 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: and longtime boyfriend Cody Man Cody, would she have left 171 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: her cell phone in the car? No, she would not have. 172 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Let me just ask your point blank, where were you 173 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: at the time she went missing? Sleeping on our couch? 174 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: Sleeping on what couch? Nick said, Mattie's house. So you 175 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: were there with the mom? Correct? Yeah, because I live 176 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: here with them, right. So when she left, was there 177 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: anything unusual about her behavior her demeanor? No? I mean 178 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: she was all spunk like she always was. Did you 179 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: try to reach her? Yes? I did, and we had 180 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: no answer at all. I tried calling twice to Madison 181 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: Bill's mom, joining me Melissa, it's my understanding she's never 182 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: been away overnight or for any period of time without 183 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: you knowing where she was. That's absolutely good, Melissa, tell 184 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: me about how you found the car. Well, when we 185 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: didn't get any answer from her by call or text, 186 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 1: I immediately was just like I knew something that's wrong 187 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: because she would not that's not her. So it's not 188 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: that far. I thought, I'm just gonna go and drive 189 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: and make sure, because on the way to this market 190 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: there's some like areas that are like really deep feets 191 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: that she could have maybe wrecked. We didn't know, you know, 192 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: I was thinking, once she was sleeping at Hanning beds, 193 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: did we leave and drive? And we first thought maybe 194 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: she was in an accident or asleep, so we're looking 195 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: for anything signs like that. We didn't see anything. As 196 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: soon as we approached close to the church where we 197 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: could see the lot, we noticed, I mean, we're not 198 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: looking there. I'm looking more like right at country corner, 199 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: but you can't miss it. And her boyfriend said, there's 200 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: her car. And I looked over and it was just 201 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: sitting there in an empty parking lot. No one else 202 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: was there. Church was closed because of the quarantine, and 203 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: I believe they would been like the online saying, so 204 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: no one was there except her car. Can I ask you, 205 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: Melissa Belle, how police brought out tracker dogs. I don't 206 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: believe that it was the police. I mean they may have, 207 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: and I don't know that the people that brought the 208 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: tracker dogs would have been the rest you the church 209 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: and rescue company that are at the command center and 210 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: working along with them. And what if anything that did 211 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: the dogs suggest? I have not been told they're like 212 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: I have not that no one has released any that 213 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: information of what they found. Okay, what about surveillance camera video? 214 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: Were any of the cameras at Country Market across the 215 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: street trained in a position where they'd catch what was 216 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: happening in the church parking lot? According to what I know, 217 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: the only video surveillance that their cameras were able to 218 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: get it was the picture of that Highland County Sheriff's 219 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: Department release I believe yesterday of the car. Now, are 220 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: you referring to your daughter's car or a white knee 221 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: solid California license plate? Gotcha? To Emily Nestor, Crime reporter 222 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: podcast host Mile Marker one eighty one, what can you 223 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: tell me about this vehicle with California license plates a 224 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: white Nissan UM. Well, we we aren't able to see 225 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: anything significant through the windows, is the first thing. And 226 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: it is a four door UM. I think it's important 227 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: to emphasize to you know, while it likely is a 228 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: Nissan UM, if you're out there on the roadway, especially 229 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: in Ohio, we're in the nearby surrounding states, you know, 230 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: please keep your eyes open, you know, for a Nissan 231 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: look alike as well. Let me understand to you, Cheryl McCollum, Director, 232 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: Coal Case Research Institute and crime scene expert, what's your 233 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: understanding of the white Nisana California plates, the location, the behavior, 234 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: what do you make of this information? Well, the first 235 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: thing that struck me was the location where the car 236 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: was first seen by a witness, which which the suspect 237 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: car the California plate. Okay, go ahead. So it's in 238 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: the charge parking lot. Number one has dummy cameras, not 239 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: real cameras, and number two there's no service there because, 240 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: like the mom already said, because the quarantine, there's really 241 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: nobody there. So this car is not at the strip 242 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: mall that's got people and cameras. They're at a place 243 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: where they're not going to be seen and also with 244 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: their ten and windows. So what you've got to try 245 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: to find out now is was this V sign with 246 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: the California play stolen? Is it owned by the perpetrator 247 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: or was it rented. It's really hard for me to 248 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: take in that nobody can get a plate number because 249 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: at red lights on businesses home security camera. Does everybody 250 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: remember Molly Tibbets who was jogging and a home security 251 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: camera caught her just briefly jogging by the driveway and 252 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: then they saw a car going back and forth and 253 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: back and forth along the same stretch and the car 254 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: had I guess scratches or some identifiable marker on it, 255 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: and they found the car and that's how they found 256 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: the purp that took Molly. So let me understand to 257 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: Emily nest Or, crime reporter and podcast host, what do 258 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: we know of any potential video surveillance in the area. 259 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollough just told us the church has dummy cameras, 260 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: which is dumb, but other surveillance video. So why I 261 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: didn't understand when I pulled into Greenfield, Ohio, was how 262 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: rural this area truly is. I come from a small 263 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: town in West Virginia. But I had no idea this 264 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: is a this is a village, this is like thirty 265 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: five hundred people. So there aren't you know, a ton 266 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 1: of cameras everywhere to be able to access like you 267 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: would in a higher populated area. So I think at 268 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: this point our best pances of getting good footage is 269 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: going to come from things like ringing doorbells or blink 270 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: cameras that people have on their actual homes. And I 271 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: know that they have been going through some of that, 272 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: but unfortunately, the way that the house is normally sit 273 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: on the road, you need not grab that license state 274 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: because the way that the car is going to be 275 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: angled as it passes. Let me go to James Shelnut 276 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: twenty seven years met your major case to take your 277 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: swat officer, Now, lawyer, what do you make of it? 278 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: The fact I don't think she went anywhere willingly, James, 279 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: because let's just pretend for a moment she was meeting 280 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: somebody behind her boyfriend and her mom's back. Should take 281 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: her cell phone. She would not leave her wallet, her 282 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: money in her cell phone in her car where the 283 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: car doors open. That wouldn't happen, So take it from there, James, Yeah, 284 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: I agree, and I'm on tread lightly here because I 285 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: know we do that the family on the line. But 286 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: you know, the first thing that came to my mind 287 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: is is either she drove the car or there, or 288 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: she didn't drive the car there. Okay, if she drove 289 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: the car there, to me, there's no damage that I'm 290 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: aware of that was on the car. So it wasn't 291 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: like somebody bumped her and she pulled in the church 292 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: parking lot. She's right there, close to where she said 293 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: that she was going. But she pulled into a parking 294 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: spaces cars, not indidigitalous like it was voluntarily pulled in there. 295 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: I would be very curious as to who she was 296 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: meeting at that church, because that seems like a likely scenario. 297 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: If she was meeting someone voluntarily at that church, it's 298 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: possible that that person could have got out of the 299 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: car and came to her window and pointed some type 300 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: of weapon at her. As possible that she could have 301 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: got out of her car voluntarily with the intent of 302 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: getting back in it and got into the car with 303 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: someone and then things got out of control and she 304 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: was taken from the scene in that car. Those are 305 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: the two possibilities to me that come to my most 306 00:19:51,520 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: likely scenarios. Time Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're talking 307 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: about the disappearance of a beautiful young girl, Madison Bell, 308 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: a teen girl cheerleader captain senior week at school. She 309 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: goes ten minutes away to a Tan salon, which is 310 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: part of a Delhi convenience store, but her car is 311 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: found by mom literally across the street to church parking lot. 312 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: Why um, Cody Man longtime boyfriend. Was there any damage 313 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: to her car? Not that I had seen? And am 314 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: I current there? A cell phone was in her car? Yes? 315 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: And what kind of car did she drive? Hey? Two 316 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: seventeen Twitter came color. It was like a burgundysh Rid 317 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen Cameray Burgundy two door, four door four door. 318 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: Any stickers on it, like I love manatees, Just anything 319 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: at all stuck on the back an SPG sticker where 320 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: she had bought or a guest swiler sticker where she 321 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 1: had bought the car from the dealership. Okay, tell me 322 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: that again, slowly repeat, there's a good a guest swiler deiler? 323 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: Is that w I L E R y U sticker 324 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: on the back of the car. Yes, no, yeah, but 325 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: they've since sold the place and it's now SPG Toyota. Yeah, 326 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: don't care. I'm just trying to get a visual on 327 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: anything that would make that burgundy Toyota four door camera 328 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: different from another one. Was there any damage to it? 329 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: Was a tail like missing, just any other stick or 330 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: anything about the car that makes it different. No, Like 331 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: my Miniman has a bike rack. We keep the Rudolph 332 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: the reindeer nose on the front year round, so that 333 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: makes it different. Is there anything about her car, Miss Bell, 334 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: that would make it different that maybe someone saw what 335 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: was happening that day? I mean, I don't know if 336 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: he mentioned aiden the dark tent on the windows on 337 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: her the only thing yet that car used to be 338 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: mine and I just recently gave it to her because 339 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: she was going to start college and I'm just gonna 340 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: get a new one. So I had when I had it, 341 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: I had the windows ten a dark So you know, 342 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: it strikes me about this, Doctor Daniel Bober. Friends at 343 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: psychiatrists joining me. You can find him on instant doctor 344 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: Daniel Bober. Doctor Bober, there was no damage to the car, 345 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: so that tells me she did she pull the car 346 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: over willingly, because think it through with me, Bober. If 347 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: someone had approached her and gotten her in some other way, 348 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: some other location, why would they take the car all 349 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: the way to the salon across the street. That tells 350 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: me she drove the car. She was almost there. There's 351 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: no damage to the car, So it sounds to me 352 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: like she got out willingly. What do you make of it? Well, 353 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's started out well, maybe it started out willingly 354 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: and then it became coerced after that. It's difficult to 355 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: say such as, hey, can you help me, I've got 356 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: a flat tire? Hey, I know you, weren't you a cheerleader? 357 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Could you can I borrow your cell phone for a minute? 358 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: There could be a million reasons she got out willingly. 359 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: Back to Cheryl McCallum, Director or Cold Case Research Institute. 360 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: What about it, Cheryl? What are you making of what 361 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: we're learning right now? Well, Nancy again, you know I'm 362 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: interested in that cell phone. Hey. I don't like it 363 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: when you say again, because that means I've already told 364 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: you this. Why are you asking me again? I'm saying 365 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: I know not at all. I'm focused on did she 366 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: send a message or receive a message through Snapchat or Instagram, 367 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: not like a normal text message or phone call, because 368 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: it does seem to me like she pulled in there. 369 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: And I'll just ask Cody point blank, did she smoke 370 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: barrel on or would she go there to buy drugs 371 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: from somebody? Yes or no? No? Okay, So if that's 372 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: not the case and there's no damage to her car, 373 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: I doubt they'd be selling in exchanging dope in a 374 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: church parking lot. Cheryl Mcclumno, all the places you could 375 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: do that. There's nobody there and there's no cameras. But 376 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying the car did not look like a police 377 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: officer vehicle. I don't know how they would get her 378 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: to stop just short of her destination if it's not 379 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: a fake rend. A million ways, a million ways, if 380 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: somebody waved at her and went, hey, you have a 381 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: flat she might pull in. There could be a million 382 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 1: decoy ways to get her out of that car. But 383 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm curious car was there before her. Keep that in mind. Okay, 384 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: that's new? Is that correct? Melissa Belle? The white Nissan 385 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: with the California tags, which I believe it was a 386 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: Nissan CenTra or look like a Nissan on CenTra. That 387 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: car was there before there before Madison arrived. Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, 388 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: you're right, Cheryl McCallum. That changes things. Go ahead, Miss Bell. 389 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: Witnesses saw it there and approximately they said maybe a 390 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: quarter till or ten till ten o'clock, so ninety five 391 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: fifty and I believe that that's what they said. And 392 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: question multiple witness saw that, what's the timeline on when 393 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: her car got there? Well, I think that she left. 394 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: I've never gave an exact time when she left because 395 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: I was cleaning and she hollered that she was leaving. 396 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: I said be careful because I always say be careful 397 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: when she's driving. And I she left here approximately ten o'clock. 398 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: So that car there is at nine fifty and the 399 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: white CenTra California tags that we think her car according 400 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: to witnesses. Really what witnesses, You don't have to give 401 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: me their nice But why did they notice it? Well, 402 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: there was this multiple witness well, one was an elderly 403 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: couple that are members of the church, like a treasurer, 404 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: and they had to stop to go into the church 405 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: to pick up, pick up or drop off an item. 406 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: And since they weren't having church Friday, and this was 407 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: earlier in the day that I mean, I don't know 408 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: what time they were there, but when they were there, 409 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: they noticed this man. That's how we got a description 410 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: and the car and the California tag. What's the um? 411 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: All I know is Caucasian. I'm not sure on heights specifically, 412 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: but Caucasian and blonde hair. And I've heard rumors that 413 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: he might have been smoking a cigarette. I've heard rumors 414 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: that he had aviator glasses and slipped hair to the sides. 415 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Then someone else said shaggy hair. I don't exactly know 416 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: the exact description. Does everybody a grief? Why may all blonde? Yes? 417 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: Did anybody say what he was wearing? And a polo 418 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: a polo shirt and clean cut like clean face. So 419 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: what color polo shirt? I believe white or gray? I've 420 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: heard those. No one's got a good look at him, Yeah, 421 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: and no one's ever really I've heard so many people, 422 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: but no authories have gave me earth. I believe it 423 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: at least a accurate You know, what would he they 424 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: in this small town, as Emily describes, a village with 425 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: California tags. Why who does he know there Emily Nestor. 426 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: Is this area anywhere near a major interstate? Um, you 427 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: have to take a lot of state roads before you 428 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: hit an interstate. But I think it is important to 429 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: mention the proximity to Chill a Coffee and it's sturdy 430 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: of missing women and possible drafficking situation. So you're you're 431 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: about twenty twenty five minutes from Chilla Coffee. Guys, let's 432 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: pause and take a listen to our friends at WLWT five. 433 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: Word of her disappearance spread quickly through this rural town. 434 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: Volunteers sarved yesterday and again today. They're focusing their efforts 435 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: within half a mile from where her car was found. 436 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: As her mom there is something wrong, someone has or 437 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: she's somebody who has run away. She's not. This is 438 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: not her behavior, and Maddie may have been wearing a 439 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: black north Face jacket. Now her mom says that she 440 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: may have had a bank card on her, but so 441 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: far there's been no activity on that card. There's also 442 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: been no activity on the Facebook account, and the sheriff 443 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: out here does say that they are looking for a 444 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: white car because there was a white car scene coming 445 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: and going from the church parking lot yesterday Crime Stories 446 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Guys, we're on the hunt for a 447 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: beautiful teen girl, Maddie Madison Bell. The tip line Madison 448 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: County is nine three seven three fourteen twenty one or 449 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: eight four four seven two seven nine one one one. 450 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: You can find all this information at crime online dot com. 451 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: I want to circle back to Cody Man. This is 452 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Maddie's boyfriend. Do you or Mom Melissa Belle know anyone 453 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: that drives a white Nissan Sentra. No, Melissa, I do 454 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: not Let me ask you this police obviously got her 455 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: cell phone. Have they down loaded all the information from 456 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Aunt Melissa? I hadn't. They hadn't released, they didn't told 457 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: me anything. So then that that's exactly what they are doing. 458 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: And don't you think to James Shelnutt twenty seven years 459 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: Metro major case now lawyer, that if she were going 460 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: to meet someone, which I doubt that there would be 461 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: a text message or a corresponding cell phone incoming or 462 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: outgoing call. Correct. Yes, no, there would be. You know, 463 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of apps that you can use 464 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: nowadays that are very difficult to trace that that won't 465 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: show up on a text message log that you can 466 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: use online um and so that does present some difficulty sometimes. 467 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: Cody Man, longtime boyfriend. Were you guys having any trouble, 468 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: talk of a breakup anything at all? No? Was she 469 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: planning on going to college? Do we know about that? Melissa? Yes, 470 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: she has already been. She had already been except to 471 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: Ohio University at the Chill Coffee Branch to be in 472 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: the nursing program. She was going to be a registered nurse. 473 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: How does she feel about that? How did she feel 474 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: about it? Yes, she was very excited. She has a 475 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: Pinterest account and I so I was looking at that 476 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: just I believe it was last night, and just to 477 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: see what her last pens were. And she had created 478 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: a college board, and I know that she had been 479 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: talking to me about the last three weeks and telling 480 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: me that she was creating this board because she she 481 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: was getting excited and she was decided on her own 482 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: that she was going to start studying different parts of 483 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: the body. So she was pinning like the arm and 484 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: the vein arteries and veins in the arm and then 485 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: trying to learn that and then she was, you know, 486 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: she was that's what she was doing, trying to just 487 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: study each part thinking that that would help prepare her 488 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: for school, and she was getting, you know, getting really 489 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: excited about that. This is what we know. Mattie Madison Bell, 490 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: teen girl, last thing Sunday morning, told mom she's heading 491 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: to the tanning salon at Country Corner Market. Her car 492 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: found at the Good Shepherd Church across the street, with 493 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: her cars in the ignition and the phone on the seat. 494 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: What does that tell you, Cheryl McCollum. Keys still in ignition, 495 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: cell phone on the car seat tells me she wasn't 496 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: intending to go anywhere. She's just going to hop out 497 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: very quickly and get back in her car. Yeah, teenage 498 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: girls aren't going to leave that cell phone at all. 499 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: And again, the way the car is parked is perfect. 500 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: It's not like she parked catty corner or crazy or 501 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: in a hurry. It looked like she just pulled straight 502 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: to the left, straight left into that parking spot perfectly. 503 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: I think right now what police are doing is probably 504 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: swabbing the steering will swabbing the gearshift, doesn't the press 505 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: to see if anybody else got in that car. But again, 506 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: cash is visible, see her cell phone is visible, and 507 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: see the keys are in it. Doesn't look like stems 508 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: was an issue. I don't think she left on her 509 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: own at all. Names I don't either, And to you, 510 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: doctor Daniel Bober, the incidents of crimes on Sunday mornings 511 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: is actually lower than other days and times of the week. 512 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: Why well, I think there's probably a lower stress out level, 513 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: more leisure time. People are often going to religious groups 514 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: at that time, So I think it's probably just the 515 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: nature of what people are doing at that time and 516 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: during that day of the week. This Ohio high school 517 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: senior has vanished on her way to attending salon just 518 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: before her graduation. Her car found in the abandoned the 519 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: keys still in the ignition. To mom, Madison Bell, what 520 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: does that tell you that her keys were still in 521 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: the ignition? I just know you're a mother. You know 522 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: you have a gut instinct, and I just have this guy. 523 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: I have this gut instinct from the moment because I 524 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: know my child, I know her, and I know she is. 525 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: This is a girl who's scared of her shadow. She 526 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: won't go to sleep at night until her boyfriend would 527 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 1: get home from work. She you know, she would never 528 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: pick up a stranger. She would never stop intentionally she 529 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: didn't take anything with her that would say that she's 530 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: planning to leave. Like she wears glasses to read. She 531 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 1: has prescription contacts that she didn't take those. The only 532 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: thing she had in was what she already had in 533 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: from the night before, which are colored contacts. She would 534 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: have taken her makeup, because she would hardly ever go 535 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: out without makeup. But she unless she was planning, you know, 536 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: but other than that, she would because she was planning 537 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: to come back. She didn't take her medicine, and her 538 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: physician has her. You know, she takes a prescription every day. 539 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: She didn't take that. I mean, she didn't take anything, 540 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: any extra clothing any I mean I went through that, 541 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: I know of I mean I went through everything, and 542 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't notice anything odd gone. I'm looking at her pictures. 543 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: In her jacket, she takes her jacket everywhere, and because 544 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: she gets cold, she takes her jacket everywhere. I'm looking 545 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,399 Speaker 1: at Maddie's photo right now. She's got on her high 546 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: school graduation cap and gown. It's white. She's just beautiful, 547 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: her teeth perfect. Did she wear braces, No, there's just 548 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 1: natural born. She's beautiful, absolutely beautiful. She loved to play 549 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: and makeup and doll up and um. You know she 550 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: I will say, you know she didn't have um, she 551 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: had like im like she didn't never saw herself as 552 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: she you know, she was her worst critic on herself, 553 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: you know, looking at herself. But you know we all 554 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: knew how beautiful no matter what she had, whether makeup 555 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: or not. But she's just always war makeup. I mean, 556 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: she wouldn't even go to the dollars world about makeup. 557 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: What are police telling you, Melissa? Not a lot right now? 558 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: They haven't released you know that. I know that there. 559 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: I know they've been working diantly, you know, vigilantly together. 560 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: They've spoken with me and ask me questions and stuff 561 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: like that. But I no, like, no, like real official 562 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: things have been released to me yet. I'm looking at 563 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: a photo of you, Melissa and longtime boyfriend Cody Man, 564 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: and his face is just contorted in tears. Tody, What 565 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: has this been like for you? In so unimaginable Melissa? 566 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: Tell me what you are learning from reports? What you 567 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: what's your current working theory? Because I always say Mom 568 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: knows best that and you know what, You're exactly right, 569 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: and I have said it and I've said it from 570 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: day once. Maybe she thought that was the only thing 571 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,760 Speaker 1: I can think of is maybe she misplaced this person. 572 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: She thought that this was somebody that she knew. You know, 573 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: she's been in quarantine. This is a girl who didn't 574 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: even go out of quarantine for two months until she 575 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: had to do her her you know, quarantine graduations thing 576 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: that they did. So she was a homebody and she 577 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: would not stop for a stranger. So she had to 578 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: think that she knew this person, you know, she had to. 579 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: Maybe I was thinking maybe she thought this was somebody 580 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 1: from school that they looked. You know, you were talking 581 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: about a white guy, blonde hair, well our school. I mean, 582 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: you know you're going to find that. So maybe she 583 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: just thought it was someone and by the time she 584 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: pulled in and realized it wasn't you know. That's the 585 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: only thing there has to be. My instinct, as her 586 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: mom is, there has to be there's a reason that 587 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: she pulled in. She would never ever pull in there 588 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: for no, for a stranger that I know. So to 589 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: Emily nest Or, Crime Reporter Podcast, How's mile marker one 590 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: eighty one? What more can you tell me? Emily? Well, 591 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: I really I've never seen anything like this as far 592 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: as community response, and the gentleman that is atting search 593 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: and rescue for the past four days going on five, 594 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: he said he'd never seen the type of community response either, 595 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: So it's just it's amazing. The first day there were 596 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: over three hundred people. Even in the pouring rain, there 597 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 1: were over one hundred and fifty people. And so this 598 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: weekend they're going to be literally thousands. Texas Equisearch, you know, 599 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: a nonprofit that they are professionals in this. They are 600 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: coming in on horseback drones of physical ground searches and 601 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: that will be happening all through this weekend. I mean, 602 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: no one is giving up here. It's also joining the search. 603 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: The fb I tipline nine three seven three nine three 604 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: fourteen twenty one or eight four four seven two seven 605 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 1: nine one one one our prayers that Mattie comes home safely. 606 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off Goodbye friend,