WEBVTT - Lady Gaga Bomb Plot, Diddy Trial Paid Line-Holders, Elizabeth Smart Kidnapper Arrested Again, Mom Sells Child For Her Eyes and Skin, and More!

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Mother Knows Death.

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<v Speaker 2>On today's episode, we're going to be talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>huge Lady Gaga concert that happened over the weekend, and

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<v Speaker 2>the foiled terrorism plot, people paying people to hold their

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<v Speaker 2>place in line for the Diddy trial, Elizabeth Smart's kidnapper

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<v Speaker 2>is back in the news, crazy COVID people, a mom

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<v Speaker 2>doing the unthinkable to her child, and a new study

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<v Speaker 2>suggesting that marijuana use during pregnancy is very harmful.

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<v Speaker 1>To a fetus. Like, uh, all this and more on

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode, Let's get started with the Lady Gaga concert. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Lady Gaga had this enormous free concert in Rio de

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<v Speaker 1>Janeiro that was like, I saw those pictures on social media.

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<v Speaker 1>It was outrageous. I can't believe how many people were there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a record breaking event with two point five

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<v Speaker 1>million people. Apparently Madonna had done it before and only

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<v Speaker 1>had about one point five million people. She like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just like so impressive.

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<v Speaker 2>When I saw the video, it just doesn't even look

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<v Speaker 2>real and it just kept going and going and the

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<v Speaker 2>people and the people.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is so cool. It's a really

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<v Speaker 1>huge accomplishment for her. I mean, that is so many people.

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<v Speaker 1>I think about all these giant festivals that sometimes re

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<v Speaker 1>took one hundred thousand people, and I can't imagine two

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<v Speaker 1>over two million people. It is so insane. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>even believe they have the infrastructure to hold something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, it's just like it's so grand and but

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<v Speaker 2>really good for her, you know, but of course we

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<v Speaker 2>can't have nice things.

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<v Speaker 1>So after the show, it came out that several people

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<v Speaker 1>had been planning in a tack on the concert, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>targeting the LGBTQ plus community. This is like so fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>The more I was researching into this, it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>horrible what happened. These people were posing as Lady Gaga fans.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to recruit teenagers online to carry out these

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<v Speaker 1>attacks with explosives and molotov cocktails. They were calling it

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<v Speaker 1>Operation Fake Monster because her fan base is called little Monsters.

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<v Speaker 1>And on top of that, so they found these two

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<v Speaker 1>people that were trying to recruit these teenagers and their

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<v Speaker 1>goal was to quote gay notoriety on social media. And

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<v Speaker 1>then a third person was found planning a separate attack

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<v Speaker 1>where he was planning on doing a Satanic ritual killing

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<v Speaker 1>a child or a baby door in the concert. What

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck is wrong with people? I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>side note. What what are our fans called little monster?

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<v Speaker 1>Hers are called little monsters? Well, we guys have anu

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<v Speaker 1>for our fan base. Yeah, you guys have to think

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<v Speaker 1>of something. So if you guys, when I come up

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<v Speaker 1>with something, because when it was just you, we were

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<v Speaker 1>jokingly calling people fan jemmies but which worked. But now

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<v Speaker 1>that you're there too, and it's like a new platform,

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<v Speaker 1>which should be something different, and we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>call you like death heeads or something, because I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like grateful dead fans might already be called that, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of similar to methods. No, no, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>could come up. You guys do have to be like

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<v Speaker 1>on meth to listen to this this show and like

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy it. But okay, every time somebody's like what your

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts about, I'm like, I don't even want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Yeah, all right, so we're going we get distracted

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<v Speaker 1>as usual. Okay, so so these people we're gonna use

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<v Speaker 1>IDs like, so I'm all tough cocktail.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're thinking like an ID is terrible. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that they use in war all the time. When

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<v Speaker 2>you see these soldiers getting their limbs blown off, especially

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<v Speaker 2>something like that was used for the Boston marathon bombing,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know how devastating that was. So things like that,

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<v Speaker 2>these these homemade explosive devices and like what in a

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<v Speaker 2>pressure cooker or something like that that just carries shrapnel

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<v Speaker 2>and can and just cause not even kill people, to

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<v Speaker 2>just cause complete destruction to limbs and life threatening injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>which is crazy. But but then you got this and

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<v Speaker 2>they're teenagers, so I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like actually children.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on top of that, the other person was

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<v Speaker 2>going to sacrifice a baby or a child because they

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<v Speaker 2>said that Lady Gaga was a Satanist and he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to respond in the same way by killing a child,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what like this was actually going to happen if

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<v Speaker 2>how did? Do you know how they figured it out?

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they got tipped off, And they're pretty discreet

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<v Speaker 1>about their handling of this situation because they didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to cause mass panic, which I will say was the

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<v Speaker 1>right move because one of her fans that had gone

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<v Speaker 1>to it said she was happy to find out not happy,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was she felt better knowing about it after

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<v Speaker 1>instead of leading up to it because she might not

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<v Speaker 1>have been comfortable going. And I agree with that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go, I dare if I knew there was

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<v Speaker 1>a threat.

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<v Speaker 2>If the police are there are one hundred percent confident

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<v Speaker 2>that they have the people that are responsible for it

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<v Speaker 2>was because I know that they were in a group

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<v Speaker 2>that radicalize young people online of course on promoting hate crimes, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>self harm, pedophilia. One of the teenagers actually had child

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<v Speaker 2>porn on their phone. Like this person, this child is

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible human being. Child porn on your phone, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're planning on killing a bunch of people, Like you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're like who raised this person?

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<v Speaker 1>Really? Who raised this kid? Okay, side, it's generally about

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people that are lost. So yeah, when

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<v Speaker 1>it thinks that they've something, he's a little lost. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a gross human being.

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<v Speaker 2>So regardless that they get they're on these forums and

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<v Speaker 2>I say this all the time, like, like a good

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<v Speaker 2>example is the Grosser Room. Like we're we're an online

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<v Speaker 2>forum and we have we have lots of people there

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<v Speaker 2>that are all into the same thing, and we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it, and it's like a a nice space for

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<v Speaker 2>people to go to and like talk to people with

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<v Speaker 2>like interest. The problem is is that there's similar things

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<v Speaker 2>that are people are committing crimes and talking about really

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<v Speaker 2>dark stuff like child porn and killing people and just

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<v Speaker 2>terrible things. And so I guess that that's probably how

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<v Speaker 2>they got caught. And if the police thought that they

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<v Speaker 2>had all of the people that were the threat under control,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's why they didn't tell Lady Gaga and they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't tell they didn't tell any of her people because

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<v Speaker 2>did a similar thing happen to with Tyler Swift that

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<v Speaker 2>she had to cancel her She ended up canceling the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she had to cancel a show because of a

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<v Speaker 1>bomb threat and a bomb I believe actually went off

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<v Speaker 1>at an area Ona Grande concert, So there is fear

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<v Speaker 1>of it and she I mean to me as a

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<v Speaker 1>perform if I was a performer and I found out

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<v Speaker 1>about this beforehand, I would have wanted to cancel the

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<v Speaker 1>event because.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's see this is the messed up though,

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<v Speaker 2>because she would have canceled the event right, and not

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<v Speaker 2>for her safety, but like you have people that are

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<v Speaker 2>coming to see you like, imagine how guilty you would

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<v Speaker 2>feel and horrible that people were getting hurt when they

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<v Speaker 2>were there to see you, Like, it's just a safety

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<v Speaker 2>measure all around. If she canceled that, that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been really bad for the city she was in, the

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<v Speaker 2>tourism everybody that was there. I mean, people freaked out

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<v Speaker 2>about Taylor Swift's concert, and I think that that was

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<v Speaker 2>like how many people or forty thousand people or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that for that concert. It was a stadium concert

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<v Speaker 2>that will flipping out, Like imagine two million people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if she was having this free concert there, I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of people were traveling from out of

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<v Speaker 2>town to be there to see this concert.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I don't know how things went down there.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of the amount of people, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was going through a security system to get access

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<v Speaker 1>to that area? I would say no, And like, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have that many people. If you see all the

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<v Speaker 1>people that were so close quarters, you can't say something

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<v Speaker 1>like that or there would have been a mass cast.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not sure if they handled it right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess they did handle it right because

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<v Speaker 2>luckily it all worked out, But I just I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine that they didn't have a little bit of anxiety

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<v Speaker 2>as well, because even though you have okay, you have

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<v Speaker 2>three people in custody, there's another three people that are

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<v Speaker 2>just as evil that aren't even on your radar yet,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. So that's and it's unfortunate

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<v Speaker 2>because now we're getting to the spot in life where

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<v Speaker 2>where events aren't happening anymore because of shit like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's sad, like there's local events around here

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<v Speaker 2>that are getting shut down because people are just like

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<v Speaker 2>acting out of control, like a bunch of kids showing

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<v Speaker 2>up and like start in trouble and like they're just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, we're not going to have these days

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<v Speaker 2>to celebrate our town anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like, oh, okay, that's just like where we're at. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to find a middle ground mentally where we

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<v Speaker 1>live in a society where these things happen and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really shitty and you know, there's always some fear going

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<v Speaker 1>on when you leave your house. But I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk about that late in a story coming

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<v Speaker 1>up later too, but you have to live in a

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<v Speaker 1>in this like state of mind where you understand something

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<v Speaker 1>like that could happen. But you can't like just be

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<v Speaker 1>sequestered to your house the rest of your life. So

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<v Speaker 1>you just need to be very vigilant when you're out

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<v Speaker 1>and be prepared. And obviously sometimes you can't get out

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<v Speaker 1>of certain situations. But I think people just need to

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<v Speaker 1>be aware. We live in a society where everybody's staring

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<v Speaker 1>at their phone all of the time. Everybody's just so

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<v Speaker 1>checked out. We need to be aware of our surroundings,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a big problem we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these times people are so checked out. I

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<v Speaker 1>just said that to Gabe this weekend. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all cops. Cops don't even need to pull people over

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<v Speaker 1>for speeding anymore. They could literally park on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of the road and just watch every single person looking

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<v Speaker 1>in their lap at their phone and pull people over

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<v Speaker 1>all day long for it. It's like the easiest job, seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's so out of control driving. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>driving on the highway going sixty miles an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Gabe's like a total talk about road rage.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be the next one that poops on some

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<v Speaker 1>but like he goes around someone that's like driving like

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<v Speaker 1>a total tool, you know, And I look over and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, surprise, they're looking down at their lap

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<v Speaker 1>on the freaking highway, Like yeah, I mean, people are

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<v Speaker 1>just totally engrossed in their phone and not paying attention,

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<v Speaker 1>which is which is good for the terrorists because they

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have nobody's watching for them, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. But I think anybody's big everyone listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the show could say one of their biggest fears is

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<v Speaker 1>just like going and doing something recreational that didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>to be done, like going to a concert and then

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<v Speaker 1>like one of their kids or them dying there. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's such a fear that that that's why people

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<v Speaker 1>decide to not go to things like that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because if that does happen, Like, how do you even

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<v Speaker 1>live the rest of your life after something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, but you have to live your life

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. I know it happens at the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store, it happens at big events like this. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>And guess what, It'll happen anywhere because there's just so

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<v Speaker 2>much potential.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, things happen all the time, and you're like

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<v Speaker 1>like like nine to eleven being one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, airplanes going into buildings or like, that was

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<v Speaker 2>never on anybody's radar, right at least at least mine

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<v Speaker 2>or anybody I know. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, Okay, so that's a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, cars driving in the crowds is a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's all these new things that happen, and there'll

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<v Speaker 2>be new things that happen every year, so you can't

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<v Speaker 2>ever really be prepared for it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think the important thing is, like, obviously there's

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<v Speaker 1>just some situations you can't get out of, but you

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<v Speaker 1>need to make sure when you're out in public that

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<v Speaker 1>you're aware of your situations and not staring at your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm guilty of that too. So now that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm preaching this, I'm gonna try to practice it as

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<v Speaker 1>best as I can. Game's actually really good at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like every single time we're in a situation that we're

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<v Speaker 2>around a lot of people, he'll be like, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>He does it at the Phillies game stuff all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, if there's an emergency, that's where we're going.

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<v Speaker 2>He says it every single time, or somewhere like it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>And when we're on the boardwalk, when we're here or there,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's always just like, this is the plan in

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<v Speaker 2>case anything happens, and it's it's like sucks that you

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<v Speaker 2>have to think that way. But and like, I just

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<v Speaker 2>pray to guy that I'm never in a situation where

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<v Speaker 2>I have to like see if that plan actually works.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's it's messed up. All right, let's talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Ditty Okay, So right now they're doing jury selection for

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<v Speaker 1>ditty trials. So it's not going to officially start until

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<v Speaker 1>they pick the jury members because I can't really say jurers, like,

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<v Speaker 1>but when they pick the jerry, it'll start. Which I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little surprised at how quick gets starting, but

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<v Speaker 1>I had brought this point up to my husband and

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<v Speaker 1>he was saying that maybe they want to try to

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<v Speaker 1>not risk other new information coming up, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>it's so quick. But anyway, it's happening, and there's such

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<v Speaker 1>high demand to get in the courthouse right now that

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<v Speaker 1>people are paying people to wait in line for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So what is their only X amount of seats in

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<v Speaker 2>order to I mean, like this is the thing. A

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<v Speaker 2>jury is not even picked yet, right, so it's not

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<v Speaker 2>even starting yet, So what are they waiting in line?

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<v Speaker 1>They're waiting in line until it gets picked. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand there. So every day you could go into

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<v Speaker 1>the courthouse, but there's no cameras allowed, So I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>most of this is going to be journalists that want

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<v Speaker 1>to get in and hear the information themselves instead of

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<v Speaker 1>hearing a reporter, because the only information we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get is from reporters that were inside the courthouse. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no cameras, but regular people are allowed in there too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think anybody's allowed in there. Okay, it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a mixture of nosy people and reporters. Okay, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is like they're gonna go sit in while

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<v Speaker 1>they're picking the people for the jury. Yeah, okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some juicy questions coming up in the jury selection questionnaire,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll touch on in a second. But the demand

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<v Speaker 1>is so high already, I can't imagine how crazy it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be when they start having people testify and

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<v Speaker 1>when it's really underway. So there's a line wrapped around

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<v Speaker 1>the block to just go in and hear this, and

0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.520
<v Speaker 1>people are paying people up to thirty two dollars an

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<v Speaker 1>hour to sit in their spot, but they said the

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<v Speaker 1>going rates twenty five dollars an hour. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>this exists. It's insane to me. I think.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Listen, Like I was thinking about like some of

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<v Speaker 2>our friends that are reporters, and it's like, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to get this scoop, like I certainly would. I

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<v Speaker 2>would consider that really because if there's only X amount

0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.600
<v Speaker 2>of spots, like you want to make sure you get

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<v Speaker 2>the spot, and you might not be able to stay,

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<v Speaker 2>like you have to have people on shifts sitting out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I was thinking about that too. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we should ask Lauren about it because somebody like her

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<v Speaker 1>would want to go in there, yeah, at the scoop herself,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's a busy person, so it might be worth

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<v Speaker 1>the money to pay somebody so you could just slip

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<v Speaker 1>in right at the perfect time and then you could

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<v Speaker 1>go about your day. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>See, I could understand that it makes more sense for

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<v Speaker 2>person that's doing it for their job, but like just

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<v Speaker 2>a regular Like I'm sitting there thinking that this is

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<v Speaker 2>just like regular people that want to watch and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like ghetto life, Like, why do you have so much

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<v Speaker 2>free time to just sit around and wait to go

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<v Speaker 2>watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. But talk about the questionnaire because some of

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<v Speaker 1>the names are really rando. Yeah, So all the duror

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say this word. All the jury members are

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<v Speaker 1>given a questionnaire and some of the questions are just

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<v Speaker 1>like have they ever been victims of some type of

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<v Speaker 1>sexual assault or abuse or something? But one of the

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<v Speaker 1>really weird things is they were given a list of

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<v Speaker 1>at least one hundred and ninety people, including the names

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<v Speaker 1>of celebrities and public figures, and ask to indicate which

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<v Speaker 1>names they recognize. And some of those names that have

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<v Speaker 1>come out are Michael B. Jordan, Kanye West, Kid Cuddy,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Myers, and Moore. And it's unclear how they're tied

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<v Speaker 1>to the case, but those names are up.

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<v Speaker 2>Meyers like from Saturday Night Live, I think, so what

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<v Speaker 2>that's so random?

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<v Speaker 1>Who Who's Michael B. Jordan? So, Michael B. Jordan's that

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<v Speaker 1>he worked on the movie I worked on too? He

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<v Speaker 1>is from my experience with him, he was a very

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<v Speaker 1>nice person. But he is an actor. He was in

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<v Speaker 1>Decreed movies and a bunch of other stuff. Is he

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<v Speaker 1>related to the other Michael Jordan. I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>But in SAG you can't have the same name as

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else. So if Michael Jordan was already registered in

0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the Screen Actors Guild, you have to have some differentiating

0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:33.760
<v Speaker 1>like initial or something. So I think ms in space jam,

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<v Speaker 1>so he might be enlisted in that. Oh yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think even in a bunch of commercials, who's Kid Coody? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Kid Cuddy is a musician. Kanye West we know is

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<v Speaker 1>a musician. We talked about him on yesterday's episode. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand why Mike Myers is wrapped into this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily saying these people are guilty, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>might have just been at a party, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know because they haven't revealed how these people are connected

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<v Speaker 1>to the case. Hit. Yeah, I mean Kanye West is

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever, like, but you don't want to see your

0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:11.760
<v Speaker 1>name in a headline associated with this trafficking case.

0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, the same with It's the same with Epstein. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like all these people that ever like sat next

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<v Speaker 2>to them at a party, like, are getting involved and

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<v Speaker 2>that sucks for them because there might genuinely be like

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<v Speaker 2>no connection. And I just thought it just was such

0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.760
<v Speaker 2>a random list of names. So all right, well, we're

0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna stap the date on this case and see, like

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<v Speaker 2>what happens, because I'm sure it's gonna be juicy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But at the same time, I kind of think

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<v Speaker 1>the paying somebody to wait in line for you is genius.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it's your job, if it's your job, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like a nosy, lazy person, then I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it works. All right. So Wanda Barzi, who was

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<v Speaker 1>convicted in the early two thousands for kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart,

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<v Speaker 1>has been arrested after she allegedly visited two parks which

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<v Speaker 1>she's not allowed to go to because she's a registered

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<v Speaker 1>sex offender. Why is this woman out of jail? Out

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<v Speaker 1>of jail? Like I don't understand, Like, so, so what

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<v Speaker 1>did when? Did this happen? Back in two thousand and two? Okay,

0:18:13.560 --> 0:18:16.159
<v Speaker 1>so the kidnapping happened in two thousand and two. So

0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:20.360
<v Speaker 1>they held her, her and Wanda's her and her husband

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<v Speaker 1>held Elizabeth Smart captive for nine months. They can out

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<v Speaker 1>of her home, Yes he was. He was working on

0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the home right, like a contractor or gardener or something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really remember the details of that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the case. This is actually something that we should look into,

0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.920
<v Speaker 1>because I totally forgot about this, But as soon as

0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:43.080
<v Speaker 1>this came up today, I was thinking, like, I can't

0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.800
<v Speaker 1>even believe that the person that was involved with this

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<v Speaker 1>even ever saw the light of day. Again, well, that

0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.000
<v Speaker 1>was my fresh complaint too. So the kidnapping happened between

0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.200
<v Speaker 1>two thousand, So they kidnapped her in two thousand and two.

0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:58.400
<v Speaker 1>She was found in two thousand and three alive, thank goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>And in twenty and ten and Wanda was sitting stiff

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years in federal prison but was released eight years later,

0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:06.960
<v Speaker 1>so she only served half of her sentence. She's a

0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.760
<v Speaker 1>registered sex offender because of this, and she's been wandering

0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.119
<v Speaker 1>around parks like I'm sorry she.

0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Would encourage her husband to continuously rape Elizabeth Smart, who

0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.440
<v Speaker 2>they both kidnapped out of her bedroom as a teenager.

0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:26.359
<v Speaker 2>And this woman is like out and about yes, she

0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.280
<v Speaker 2>she should like have the death penalty along with her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so I don't know, Like I know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's lots of interviews with this Elizabeth Smart woman and

0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:40.639
<v Speaker 1>now she's like an advocate for child victims and stuff

0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:44.720
<v Speaker 1>like that, But what like This had to be so

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<v Speaker 1>devastating on.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only her life but her parents' life. Could you

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<v Speaker 2>imagine something like that happening and not knowing what happened

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.960
<v Speaker 2>to your child for nine months? Nine months? Like, and

0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.720
<v Speaker 2>imagine knowing what happened to your child within that nine months.

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<v Speaker 2>Like these people are disgusting humans that should not be

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<v Speaker 2>able to see the light of day.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I one hundred percent agree. Like people want to

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<v Speaker 1>argue that prison can rehab some people. You can't rehab

0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:13.520
<v Speaker 1>kidnapping tendencies. I'm sorry. Like, if you're gonna hold a

0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.760
<v Speaker 1>fourteen year old captive for nine months and have your

0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.280
<v Speaker 1>husband's sexual assault her over and over and over again

0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.720
<v Speaker 1>for your sick satisfaction, fuck you. You deserve to die. Yeah.

0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Really, it's it's really like I don't feel bad for

0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 2>people like this at all, Like I don't care if

0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.920
<v Speaker 2>she wants to be rehabilitated, like and Elizabeth. He has

0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.520
<v Speaker 2>to live her life knowing this woman is out there

0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and now, oh, like shocker, she's been arrested for going

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<v Speaker 2>into two parks where other children are.

0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Why is this person walking the streets? She's clearly a

0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.080
<v Speaker 1>harmed in society. Then her husband Brian David Mitchell is

0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>serving a life sentence for the kidnapping, also deserves death.

0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.760
<v Speaker 1>What's to say he's not gonna get out for no reason? Yeah,

0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's that's the thing with the death penalty.

0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 2>I guess that always that there's always a fear because

0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:59.120
<v Speaker 2>at least that the death penalty is like a very

0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:03.240
<v Speaker 2>certain thing that happens to I don't know, there's we

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:08.800
<v Speaker 2>we actually did a whole entire external exam with Matt Mangino,

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:12.960
<v Speaker 2>who wrote a book called The Executioner's Toll, and it's

0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 2>it's very good, and it's a very good conversation I

0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:17.440
<v Speaker 2>had with him about the death penalty and just all

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.359
<v Speaker 2>of these like pros and cons of it and things

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:24.040
<v Speaker 2>like that. But overall, like when I think about this,

0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 2>I just think, for example, like Lacy Peterson and all

0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 2>that stuff, and and like how her mom's been going

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<v Speaker 2>through this hell and he initially got the death penalty

0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.080
<v Speaker 2>and now he does it, and now they're talking about

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 2>like retrying him and getting him out of it completely,

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and and like if he's innocent, then I guess that's

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.560
<v Speaker 2>why it's good that the death penalty didn't happen for him.

0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:46.399
<v Speaker 1>But like if they're able to really prove it. But

0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 1>like just the whole situation of it is so.

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 2>So pointing towards the fact that that he did it.

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<v Speaker 2>So now she might have to live with the fact that,

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 2>like there's even a possibility that this guy might get out.

0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, her life has has been really buy this

0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and so it's like things like that, and prison isn't absolute,

0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:08.959
<v Speaker 2>Like there's always a way to get out of it,

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 2>and there's always somebody willing to stand up for somebody

0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.280
<v Speaker 2>to get out of it. And how did she even

0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 2>get half of her sentence because she was good in jail?

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:27.919
<v Speaker 2>Like that's such bullshit. This episode is brought to you

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<v Speaker 2>by the Grossroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>The grossroom style is over, but you could still get

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<v Speaker 2>in and try it out for a month. And it's

0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.440
<v Speaker 2>only five ninety nine, and just see all the posts

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<v Speaker 2>that we're doing, and I guarantee you that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to want to be in the gross room.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day.

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<v Speaker 2>We do high profile death disseection every week, sometimes like

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<v Speaker 2>this week, we're doing one on Lori Value and it

0:22:49.800 --> 0:22:52.200
<v Speaker 2>is going to be over the course of three weeks

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 2>because there's just so much information to go through. The case,

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 2>but we really break down the scene investigation and the

0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:01.240
<v Speaker 2>court case. But we all so look at, of course

0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 2>my specialty, all of the autopsies and what they saw

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<v Speaker 2>on each one of the bodies. And in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about at least four dead people if not

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<v Speaker 2>more associated with the case, which is just crazy and

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<v Speaker 2>really disturbing. Honestly, the death investigation in America is just

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of blowing my mind right now with this case.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have a very special video that's going up

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<v Speaker 2>this week which is a Grossroom exclusive from one of

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<v Speaker 2>our members and it is really crazy. So I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>that I am able to post it and that you

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>guys could check that out. And also this is Wednesday,

0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:40.119
<v Speaker 2>so we're having new what is It Wednesday, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a game that we play every week and you get

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<v Speaker 2>to choose out of four photos I post which ones are,

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<v Speaker 2>which one is fake, and then the other ones you

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<v Speaker 2>have to guess like what happened and whoever is close

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<v Speaker 2>enough with the closest answers wins a prize.

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<v Speaker 1>Head over to the gross Room dot com now to

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<v Speaker 1>sign up. So a couple in Spain was arrested after

0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>it was discovered they kept their three kids captive in

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>their home since twenty twenty one due to COVID concerns.

0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.920
<v Speaker 1>This is this is mind blowing, right, Yes, I get Yeah.

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>So a neighbor called the cops and was just like,

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've seen these kids going to school

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>in years, Like what's going on? Which is interesting because

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>we had just been talking about this recently. I guess

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:32.800
<v Speaker 1>with the kids going to school, but like, does this

0:24:32.840 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>person know for sure they're not homeschooled? And the police

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>were saying at first that there was no immediate red flags,

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>of course until they went inside of the house. Well,

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>I think this is this is an important case to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about because I especially like I live on a

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 1>street that our houses are very close together, there's multiple

0:24:51.800 --> 0:24:54.439
<v Speaker 1>children living on the street, and I kind of like

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.400
<v Speaker 1>see people coming and going all the time. So whenever

0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you see like you get to know I know, people's habits,

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and whenever you see your neighbors like something's like not off,

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>it's something should click inside you like, hey, maybe I

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>should call the police.

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't even have to be like you haven't

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 2>seen the kids. It could be like an older person

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 2>you haven't seen left their house or whatever. For a while,

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 2>but this like, it's good that this person had some

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of an instinct to be like something's up here.

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they didn't see them getting on

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 2>the school bus, or maybe they have kids that go

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 2>to the school that are like, we haven't seen these kids.

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 2>But like, the thing is is that even if the

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 2>kids weren't going to school, like, this person wasn't seeing

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 2>the kids play outside or anything like, something was unusual,

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:41.880
<v Speaker 2>which is why they called police. Yeah, and on top

0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>of that, they realized they hadn't seen the family as

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a whole leave since December twenty twenty one. The father

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 2>would occasionally leave to get the mail or to get groceries,

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:54.199
<v Speaker 2>but they called police and when police got there, the

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 2>parents let them in the house. Of course, the parents

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 2>put three masks on the children and claim that they

0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 2>were very sick. The police claimed the kids were not

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.560
<v Speaker 2>sick at all, but they were really dirty and just

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>not bathed properly. They also discovered that the children slept

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 2>in cribs and defaced monsters and dolls were found in

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 2>their rooms, and the house was littered with trash and

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.200
<v Speaker 2>filled with lots of medication and masks. So they said

0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the state of the house was basically this house of horrors,

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 2>horrible for these children. So the kids were two eight

0:26:26.840 --> 0:26:29.239
<v Speaker 2>year old twins and a ten year old. So you

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 2>have to think when COVID started the kid, the one

0:26:33.200 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>kid was five and the twins were three, so they

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 2>were well at least the three year olds. Maybe I

0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 2>don't even know if you would put a three year

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 2>old in a crib, but it's a little bizarre that

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 2>they were still in cribs now.

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's sick when you.

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Look at this whole case though, and just think of this,

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.719
<v Speaker 2>you go back to that time and you're like, people

0:26:55.040 --> 0:27:00.160
<v Speaker 2>were seriously that affected by this that it screwed them

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 2>up so bad. And I mean, of course, this is

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>this like a thing that they're legitimately fearful or is

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:11.199
<v Speaker 2>this just like, okay, they're an abuse situation, Like is

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 2>it an actual abuse situation or is it that the

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>parents are like psychologically really believe that their kids were

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 2>going to get hurt.

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Because I some of that shit.

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>That was going on the news, I was like, these

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 2>people are like for me, I didn't get scared because

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 2>I know medicine, but I could imagine being a person

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't really understand things, and listening to the things

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 2>they were saying on the news.

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I actually I have a death counter on the television.

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>So you're every day you're being faced with how many

0:27:41.680 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>people are dying from this, even though you've said plenty

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 1>of times like people die every day, it happens. But

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 1>when you see this illness is wiping everybody out, it

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>scares everybody. And then you have the governments telling everybody

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>that they need to be afraid of it. And you

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>know there's this like wit hunting against all these people

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>for not doing everything the government says. When if we

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.239
<v Speaker 1>ever lived in a society where everybody does exactly what

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the government says, it's fucking crazy. Yeah, it is crazy.

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I just don't.

0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because even there's some people close in

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 2>my life that I was just.

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Like, all right, guy, you're going a little bit overboard, Jack,

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>but you have to if she's listening right now, no,

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>but you have to understand. But like background, I do

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:29.919
<v Speaker 1>understand that, but I'm saying people don't. The people in

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.240
<v Speaker 1>my life that were that were going a little overboard

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>are like completely fine now, like are people Yeah, yeah,

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>they're they're fine. They're they go out and they're like

0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>doing things with their kids. They might be like a

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit more cautious if they're sick or something like that,

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 1>but they're they're fine. They're like this.

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually surprised we don't hear about this more often.

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>But I see, I swear I see it around here.

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm telling you, I see people wearing a mask

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>and you just.

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Like, what are you doing right now, dude?

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Like it's it's insane to me. Like, and especially in

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>the car. The car situation is the is the the

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>craziest part of it. If you're by yourself in your

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 2>own vehicle. I mean, that is just not how air

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 2>was well. But like, I genuinely think that people got

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 2>so scared that that they like can't get out of it.

0:29:21.400 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>And I do understand that because, like I said, like

0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 2>people don't understand it. And there's people that.

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Have already were prone to being what you would call

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>like a germaphobe to begin with, and this just like

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>threw them over the edge kind of. So I mean,

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you could find out about this family,

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 1>like were they completely normal before this happened and they

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>got so freaked out. But now it's like their kids

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.719
<v Speaker 1>are actually being more hurt than they would be if

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>they were in public. Listen. I think they're using it

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>as an excuse to shield abusing the kids, because if

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you were just scared they were gonna get sick, why

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>are they living in a filthy like they could get

0:29:57.600 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>sick from living in a filthy house and being that

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>according to oh yeah, there was CC's all over the house.

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think the COVID thing is like this

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>blanketed excuse, like we were afraid to send them outside. No,

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>you probably had abusive tendencies before that, and you're using

0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>it as an excuse. It's not like they went in

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>this house and these children weren't allowed outside, but they're

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>perfectly clean and the house is clean and everything like that.

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 1>Like this just seems like a really shitty family that

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>used this as an excuse to abuse their children.

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, so I guess when the cops took the kids

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 2>out of the house, they were like, go in the

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 2>garden right now and just wait here. And apparently one

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>of the kids saw us now and like went they said,

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 2>went crazy and freaked out.

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 1>So now these kids that have not been out of

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>their house for more than half of their life right

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in living in this situation, are now in a juvenile

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>center because their parents are both in prison.

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>It's just so it's so terrible. They're going to need

0:30:56.440 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>like major rehab to just be able to I mean,

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 2>they haven't even associated with any people now. The interesting thing, though,

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 2>is is that they did mention in the article that

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:12.000
<v Speaker 2>these children weren't malnourished. They were eating, they were being fed.

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>It was like they weren't malnourished, but they were filthy

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>for living.

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>And I understand that, but it's just it's just it's

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it's like a little bit of a different case,

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just curious, like what the investigation is going

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>to show, Like was was the mom like doing school

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 2>with them at home? And like like I don't know,

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Like I like it, not you Why would you say

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>not though?

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 1>You don't know? Like because if people have you listen,

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I loved your children enough to homeschool them, you wouldn't

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>be letting them sleep around demon as dolls and living

0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>in rooms of shit all over it.

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.479
<v Speaker 2>I understand that, but I'm just saying, like, if they

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 2>were truly mental over this, then like they they didn't

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:53.280
<v Speaker 2>say any of that in the article. It's not like

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 2>they were starving them and tying them up and all

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Like it just didn't say any of that.

0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>That's like typically what you see in abuse situation.

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I just don't buy it. There's plenty of agoraphobic people

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>that don't live in absolute, hoarded, filthy mess houses. Well,

0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of people. No, you do, though, there's plenty

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>of people that do, but it's not every case. So

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I just called bullshit on this. I think it's ridiculous.

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 1>All right. So last year, this six year old went

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>missing in South Africa and now her mother and two

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.400
<v Speaker 1>others have been convicted after they allegedly sold her to

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>a local healer that wanted the child's eyes and skin.

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 1>What did they so, she said she wanted the child

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>for her eyes and skin. Were they actually going to

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>like cut out her eyes and skin or did they

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>just think that? You know how, in some cultures, like

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>they think that people that are born a little bit

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:45.120
<v Speaker 1>different have like these magical powers. Like we talked about

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 1>a case once in the gross room of a child

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.680
<v Speaker 1>that was born with a parasitic twin that had extra

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>limbs and they were considered to be like some kind

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:56.920
<v Speaker 1>of a god, right because they were born in this

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>special kind of a way. And it could it be

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>like that because this kid, this kid's like really cute.

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 1>Actually it's I hate seeing pictures of kids that get her.

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>And she's a very She's like a beautiful little girl

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>that's got this like really pretty like light brown skin

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 1>color with these bright blue eyes. And I could see

0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:22.240
<v Speaker 1>that she doesn't look like everybody else that lives there,

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying, or like a majority of people,

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>So she might be like a coveted like special child

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.560
<v Speaker 1>to some people or whatever in this culture. I don't know,

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I really like, is it like some legit like they

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 1>were gonna like cut her eyes and skin out to

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>do some like thing. I don't know. But like the kids,

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the kid's missing still, so why are they calling it

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.720
<v Speaker 1>a kidnapping the kids? Like the kid's probably dead, Like

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>where is she? Well, That's what I'm saying. We don't

0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:52.080
<v Speaker 1>really know the purpose of this, and we don't really

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>know for a fact if this kid went to this

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote healer because a neighbor had testified that the

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>mother said she was potentially can considering selling her to

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the healer and then suggested it had been done, and

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>then offered money to people that she talked about it

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>with for their silence. But the child has been missing

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>since February of twenty twenty four. They don't know where

0:34:12.200 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 1>she is at all. They have questioned this healer but

0:34:14.640 --> 0:34:17.400
<v Speaker 1>said there's a total lack of evidence that this person's

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>even involved, so we don't know this for effect. But

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>according to the mother, that's what she said to a neighbor.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>But a teacher had also asked about this child, and

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the mother said she was quote on a ship inside

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>a container and they were on the way to West Africa.

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Would that not trigger like an alarm in your brain?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny that we always hear about these stories about

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.560
<v Speaker 2>neighbors getting interviewed and people saying like the most outrageous

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:42.240
<v Speaker 2>shit to people.

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 1>I just can't imagine, like me and my neighbors talk

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>about like plants and like people leaving their abandoned car

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 1>up front of one of our houses and like stuff

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>like that, like we're not talking about like I just

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine somebody being like, oh, hey, I haven't seen

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.120
<v Speaker 1>your son for a while Oh, yeah, he's like on

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>a ship inside of a container somewhere, you'd be like, okay, well, sometimes,

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, we talked about that couple in Utah, I

0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>guess where the guy said like something, made a joke

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>about his wife poisoning them, and then she like actually

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 1>did and wrote a children's book about dead dad. We

0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:21.919
<v Speaker 1>did a high profile. That's a section on that too.

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 1>What I forget what, I don't remember their names, but

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes people just say really crazy shit and

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you just assume they're joking because it's so outrageous, and

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>then these things come up later and you're like, oh

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.880
<v Speaker 1>my god, I can't even believe that. Well, part of

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 1>this one one of the really cool parts of the

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 1>gross Room.

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:41.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if you notice this, but when

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 2>we posted the the Lori Vallu high profile that's a

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 2>section yesterday, one of the people in the gross Room

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 2>said that she used to work with Tammy Davel.

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it happened like it.

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Happens like in the grosser room, Like people are like like, oh, yeah,

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I went to school with that person or this or that,

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, wait a second, what, Like I could

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 2>talk to somebody that's like close to this case, because

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 2>that's outrageous to me, Like imagine knowing somebody involved in some.

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Of these high profile cases. It's nuts. Let's move on

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>to this new research that's revealing that using marijuana during

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy is linked to many problems. I mean, did we

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:26.959
<v Speaker 1>not know this beforehand? No, because it's natural and there's

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>nothing wrong with weed, and it doesn't hurt anybody. Isn't

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of medication from plants.

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say this out loud right now that

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.280
<v Speaker 2>one of the worst things that has ever been done

0:36:37.360 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 2>in the history of the United States in the past

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 2>twenty years. And you could list lots of things, I

0:36:44.200 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 2>would say one of the biggest things that we're going

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 2>to look back and say was the most terrible mistake

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 2>was legalizing marijuana.

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I really believe that, like that it's not okay, Karen,

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>because I've been saying this from the beginning that because

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the way people's minds work is that people say, oh,

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>if the government says it's safe.

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Then it's not bad. And then you've noticed since it's

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 2>been legal that you smell it everywhere everyone's using it.

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:14.799
<v Speaker 2>It's just like it's been this study confirms that it's

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 2>double pregnant. People are using it double now than they

0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:22.800
<v Speaker 2>were before. All of it is because of the government

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.480
<v Speaker 2>saying it's okay, So like bullshit.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Because it's thehol and cigarettes are legal to purchase too,

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 1>and people still, yeah, the harmful effects of them, so

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 1>you woant to call me a morodd people fucking drink

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 1>alcohol and spokes cigarettes when they're pregnant, fully knowing they

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.960
<v Speaker 1>cause problems for decades and decades and decades. So obviously, yeah,

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.320
<v Speaker 1>any type of my point, that's my point.

0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 2>If they weren't legal, people wouldn't be buying them at

0:37:47.160 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 2>the level they know.

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't absolutely not. Hello, during prohibition, everybody was still

0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>buying alcohol.

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Not like not on the level that they do now,

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.440
<v Speaker 2>and it wouldn't be the way it is now.

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm guarantee you there's a there is analystic place I

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>am not. I am not. I guess what, like, you're

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna look at this and smoke weed. Don't buy it

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>at a dispensary because it's so expensive and they still

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>getting it.

0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter, the legality of it makes it okay. And

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:18.919
<v Speaker 2>that's why you smell it all the time because people

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>are doing it everywhere.

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Now it just is it's.

0:38:22.280 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, before you'd be like, oh, well, I can't

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 2>smoke walking up the street, and I can't smoke in

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 2>my car because if I get pulled over, I'm gonna

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>like lose my license and ship. Now no, you just

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>do it because you're not gonna get in trouble anymore.

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's that's what the problem is. It's because there's

0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>something that when people in America are told that the

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 2>government says it's okay, and this could go as far

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 2>as the FDA and drugs and everything else, that it's safe,

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 2>that there's some kind of thing that's like it's not

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 2>that bad. And when you tell people that marijuana used

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 2>has has skyrocketed since it's been.

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Legalized, ever said weed was okay for pregnancy, No, you're

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.399
<v Speaker 1>talking about people say that it's a plant. People say

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>that it's a yeah, but most pharmaceuticals and opiates are

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:09.359
<v Speaker 1>also plants, So like that's idiotic. Nobody's like out there

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>saying we'd say for pregnancy. People falsely assume it is,

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 1>but they're idiots and uneducated about it. And that's why.

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 2>It's because people think that it's okay because the government

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 2>legalizes it.

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you if that's what you want to think

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 1>of it, but it is.

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 2>And when you watch this in fifty years, you're gonna

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 2>think I'm a genius, So don't I mean, okay, you

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 2>don't have to now, but you will when you see it,

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.399
<v Speaker 2>because it's the same exact thing with the government saying

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 2>that it's okay to drink alcohol and everything else, and

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>the drinking and driving is out of control. Alcoholisms out

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 2>of control, cigarettes are out of control. All of it's

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 2>out of control.

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So this neat new research that was done.

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 2>So basically, like any medical professional that knows anything is saying, like,

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever you think about marijuana, like throw it out the window.

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Whatever studies that have been done over the course of

0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 2>however many years back in the eighties and the nineties, Like,

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 2>none of that shit matters anymore, because we're dealing with

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 2>a whole new marijuana with a higher potency and genetically modified.

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.279
<v Speaker 2>It's just not the same exact drug as it was

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.359
<v Speaker 2>when other studies were done. So we don't even know

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the long term effects of it because we haven't been

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 2>studying enough. And this so now we've talked about on

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>this program already this year with multiple different things coming

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.800
<v Speaker 2>out that it increases your risk of stroke by forty

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 2>two percent, it increases your risk of a heart attack

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 2>by twenty five percent. It's been linked to cardiac arrhythmias, myocarditis.

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 2>People that use it have long lasting mental disorders including depressions,

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:46.520
<v Speaker 2>social anxieties, schizophrenia, self harm, and death, all of these

0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 2>things that were not a thing until now. Right, So

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 2>now it's all coming out. It's the same exact thing

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 2>that's going to happen with ozebic when you when you

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 2>think about like, this is this thing that's awesome, it's

0:40:57.680 --> 0:40:58.359
<v Speaker 2>this natural thing.

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 1>We're going to use it all the time, and now

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>all of a.

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Sudden, it's like it's like ozempics and miracle drug and

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 2>then just give it a couple years and that shit's

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:06.800
<v Speaker 2>going to be like off the market.

0:41:06.840 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Probably it's that terrible for you. So okay, let's go

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>back to this.

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 2>So Jama Pediatrics analyzed fifty one different recent studies that

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 2>have to do with marijuana over twenty one million people

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 2>over the course of all of those studies, So that's

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 2>this is a huge study over the course of a

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 2>lot of people, and it shows that participants of marijuana

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 2>use during pregnancy was linked to listen to these staggering statistics,

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 2>fifty two percent higher risk of pre term delivery before

0:41:37.480 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven weeks, seventy five percent higher risk of a

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.399
<v Speaker 2>low birth weight which is less than five point five

0:41:44.480 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 2>pounds at delivery, and one So only six of the

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 2>studies of those that were studied showed cannabis use and death.

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 2>And of those studies, they found that there was a

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:02.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty nine percent high risk of infant death associated with

0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the use of marijuana during pregnancy. Okay, that that is

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Like these numbers are huge, huge, huge and big big

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>groups of study twenty one million.

0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I see what you're saying, but I don't personally find

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:20.320
<v Speaker 1>this information shocking, is what I'm getting it. Like, of course,

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>when you do a recreational drug when you're pregnant, it's

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>going to be harmful to your child, like obviously, but

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 1>it's legal now, so it's it's not as harmful. Your

0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:32.359
<v Speaker 1>argument about the legals, like cahol is legal and it

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>is harmful to babies, sigarette is cigarettes are legal and

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>they're harmful to babies. Weed is legal babies. So since

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen.

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 2>Marijuana use has doubled in pregnant women alone, and it

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 2>is more than double. It's other, it's it's more than

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 2>doubled in everyone else. It's it's exacerbated since it's become legal.

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 2>So if you don't see the correlation between the legality

0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 2>of it and the increase in use, then like I

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to tell you, okay, because that that's

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.280
<v Speaker 2>the turning point when you want to say the turning

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 2>point of something like when did school shootings increase?

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Like, okay, it was the Internet.

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there were school shootings before the Internet, But when

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 2>did they get crazier because of the Internet. Yeah, people

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 2>spoke the legality, But now, when did it start doubling

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.839
<v Speaker 2>and increasing significantly?

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Is when it became legal, that's all. And also only

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 1>have these numbers because it's legal, and more people are

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>admitting to do it because they can't get in trouble

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:30.760
<v Speaker 1>for it anymore. So we don't know if these numbers

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 1>are accurate, because they're accurate. Listen, Listen, I don't give

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a shit about any of the numbers actually, because like

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm a human that goes outside and sees with my

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>own eyes and smells with my own nose. I see

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>what's happening. But if you can say ten years ago,

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>if I smoked weed when I was a teenager, I

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>would have said, no, I don't, and I did. Guess what,

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 1>that fucked up the study. So like, ok the numbers

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>are high, but they've been high. So like, no, we

0:43:57.040 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 1>need to translating. You're you're so ridiculous. Yes, you you

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 1>actually think that the numbers of marijuana use aren't higher. Now, like,

0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>do you live in society and go outside. I just

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.160
<v Speaker 1>said they're higher. I just said, but they have always

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>been high. It's not like the people literally they have

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:15.280
<v Speaker 1>literally never been anywhere near where they're at right now. Okay,

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 1>but you're acting like nobody in the world smoked weed

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>until they made it. No I didn't. I just said

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>that it had significantly increased since it got legal. I

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 1>said that, Okay five times. Let's wrap this up because

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the bottom line is, obviously it's dangerous to smoke or

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>use any marijuana products like it is with any other

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:36.440
<v Speaker 1>recreational drug and most pharmaceuticals when you're pregnant. So you

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 1>need to do your own research and not expect that

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>the government is telling you something is safe. Like, that's

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.879
<v Speaker 1>idiotic to just believe that at face value because something

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>is legal but it's safe. It's idiotic.

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 2>But it's the psychology of people. Okay, just trust me,

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm telling you right now, if they said tomorrow

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 2>that heroin was legal, I guarantee you that the numbers

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 2>would double. I'm telling you right now. I don't think

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 2>anybody doing heroin is worried about it. If it's legal or

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:06.960
<v Speaker 2>not they want. I'm telling you, though, if the government

0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 2>says that it's considered to be a recreational drug that's safe,

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 2>more people will start using it.

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, sure, but at the end of the day, it's

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.800
<v Speaker 1>still your responsibility to know it's safe to put in you.

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's everybody's responsibility. But I'm just putting it

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 2>out there that that's what I think.

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:27.560
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0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.560
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0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:51.200
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0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:55.080
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<v Speaker 1>people based on my experience working in pathology, so they

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<v Speaker 1>Always remember that science is changing every day and the

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