Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Mother Knows Death.
Speaker 2: On today's episode, we're going to be talking about the
Speaker 2: huge Lady Gaga concert that happened over the weekend, and
Speaker 2: the foiled terrorism plot, people paying people to hold their
Speaker 2: place in line for the Diddy trial, Elizabeth Smart's kidnapper
Speaker 2: is back in the news, crazy COVID people, a mom
Speaker 2: doing the unthinkable to her child, and a new study
Speaker 2: suggesting that marijuana use during pregnancy is very harmful.
Speaker 1: To a fetus. Like, uh, all this and more on
Speaker 1: today's episode, Let's get started with the Lady Gaga concert. So,
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga had this enormous free concert in Rio de
Speaker 1: Janeiro that was like, I saw those pictures on social media.
Speaker 1: It was outrageous. I can't believe how many people were there.
Speaker 1: It was a record breaking event with two point five
Speaker 1: million people. Apparently Madonna had done it before and only
Speaker 1: had about one point five million people. She like, that's
Speaker 1: just like so impressive.
Speaker 2: When I saw the video, it just doesn't even look
Speaker 2: real and it just kept going and going and the
Speaker 2: people and the people.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so cool. It's a really
Speaker 1: huge accomplishment for her. I mean, that is so many people.
Speaker 1: I think about all these giant festivals that sometimes re
Speaker 1: took one hundred thousand people, and I can't imagine two
Speaker 1: over two million people. It is so insane. I can't
Speaker 1: even believe they have the infrastructure to hold something like that.
Speaker 2: I know, it's just like it's so grand and but
Speaker 2: really good for her, you know, but of course we
Speaker 2: can't have nice things.
Speaker 1: So after the show, it came out that several people
Speaker 1: had been planning in a tack on the concert, specifically
Speaker 1: targeting the LGBTQ plus community. This is like so fucked up.
Speaker 1: The more I was researching into this, it's just so
Speaker 1: horrible what happened. These people were posing as Lady Gaga fans.
Speaker 1: They're trying to recruit teenagers online to carry out these
Speaker 1: attacks with explosives and molotov cocktails. They were calling it
Speaker 1: Operation Fake Monster because her fan base is called little Monsters.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, so they found these two
Speaker 1: people that were trying to recruit these teenagers and their
Speaker 1: goal was to quote gay notoriety on social media. And
Speaker 1: then a third person was found planning a separate attack
Speaker 1: where he was planning on doing a Satanic ritual killing
Speaker 1: a child or a baby door in the concert. What
Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with people? I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: side note. What what are our fans called little monster?
Speaker 1: Hers are called little monsters? Well, we guys have anu
Speaker 1: for our fan base. Yeah, you guys have to think
Speaker 1: of something. So if you guys, when I come up
Speaker 1: with something, because when it was just you, we were
Speaker 1: jokingly calling people fan jemmies but which worked. But now
Speaker 1: that you're there too, and it's like a new platform,
Speaker 1: which should be something different, and we don't want to
Speaker 1: call you like death heeads or something, because I feel
Speaker 1: like grateful dead fans might already be called that, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of similar to methods. No, no, you guys
Speaker 1: could come up. You guys do have to be like
Speaker 1: on meth to listen to this this show and like
Speaker 1: enjoy it. But okay, every time somebody's like what your
Speaker 1: podcasts about, I'm like, I don't even want to talk
Speaker 1: about Yeah, all right, so we're going we get distracted
Speaker 1: as usual. Okay, so so these people we're gonna use
Speaker 1: IDs like, so I'm all tough cocktail.
Speaker 2: So you're thinking like an ID is terrible. It's the
Speaker 2: stuff that they use in war all the time. When
Speaker 2: you see these soldiers getting their limbs blown off, especially
Speaker 2: something like that was used for the Boston marathon bombing,
Speaker 2: and you know how devastating that was. So things like that,
Speaker 2: these these homemade explosive devices and like what in a
Speaker 2: pressure cooker or something like that that just carries shrapnel
Speaker 2: and can and just cause not even kill people, to
Speaker 2: just cause complete destruction to limbs and life threatening injuries,
Speaker 2: which is crazy. But but then you got this and
Speaker 2: they're teenagers, so I don't even know.
Speaker 1: They're like actually children.
Speaker 2: And then on top of that, the other person was
Speaker 2: going to sacrifice a baby or a child because they
Speaker 2: said that Lady Gaga was a Satanist and he wanted
Speaker 2: to respond in the same way by killing a child,
Speaker 2: Like what like this was actually going to happen if
Speaker 2: how did? Do you know how they figured it out?
Speaker 1: I believe they got tipped off, And they're pretty discreet
Speaker 1: about their handling of this situation because they didn't want
Speaker 1: to cause mass panic, which I will say was the
Speaker 1: right move because one of her fans that had gone
Speaker 1: to it said she was happy to find out not happy,
Speaker 1: but she was she felt better knowing about it after
Speaker 1: instead of leading up to it because she might not
Speaker 1: have been comfortable going. And I agree with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go, I dare if I knew there was
Speaker 1: a threat.
Speaker 2: If the police are there are one hundred percent confident
Speaker 2: that they have the people that are responsible for it
Speaker 2: was because I know that they were in a group
Speaker 2: that radicalize young people online of course on promoting hate crimes, uh,
Speaker 2: self harm, pedophilia. One of the teenagers actually had child
Speaker 2: porn on their phone. Like this person, this child is
Speaker 2: a terrible human being. Child porn on your phone, and
Speaker 2: you're planning on killing a bunch of people, Like you're
Speaker 2: you're like who raised this person?
Speaker 1: Really? Who raised this kid? Okay, side, it's generally about
Speaker 1: a bunch of people that are lost. So yeah, when
Speaker 1: it thinks that they've something, he's a little lost. He's
Speaker 1: a gross human being.
Speaker 2: So regardless that they get they're on these forums and
Speaker 2: I say this all the time, like, like a good
Speaker 2: example is the Grosser Room. Like we're we're an online
Speaker 2: forum and we have we have lots of people there
Speaker 2: that are all into the same thing, and we talk
Speaker 2: about it, and it's like a a nice space for
Speaker 2: people to go to and like talk to people with
Speaker 2: like interest. The problem is is that there's similar things
Speaker 2: that are people are committing crimes and talking about really
Speaker 2: dark stuff like child porn and killing people and just
Speaker 2: terrible things. And so I guess that that's probably how
Speaker 2: they got caught. And if the police thought that they
Speaker 2: had all of the people that were the threat under control,
Speaker 2: maybe that's why they didn't tell Lady Gaga and they
Speaker 2: didn't tell they didn't tell any of her people because
Speaker 2: did a similar thing happen to with Tyler Swift that
Speaker 2: she had to cancel her She ended up canceling the show.
Speaker 1: Well, she had to cancel a show because of a
Speaker 1: bomb threat and a bomb I believe actually went off
Speaker 1: at an area Ona Grande concert, So there is fear
Speaker 1: of it and she I mean to me as a
Speaker 1: perform if I was a performer and I found out
Speaker 1: about this beforehand, I would have wanted to cancel the
Speaker 1: event because.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's see this is the messed up though,
Speaker 2: because she would have canceled the event right, and not
Speaker 2: for her safety, but like you have people that are
Speaker 2: coming to see you like, imagine how guilty you would
Speaker 2: feel and horrible that people were getting hurt when they
Speaker 2: were there to see you, Like, it's just a safety
Speaker 2: measure all around. If she canceled that, that would have
Speaker 2: been really bad for the city she was in, the
Speaker 2: tourism everybody that was there. I mean, people freaked out
Speaker 2: about Taylor Swift's concert, and I think that that was
Speaker 2: like how many people or forty thousand people or something
Speaker 2: like that for that concert. It was a stadium concert
Speaker 2: that will flipping out, Like imagine two million people. I mean,
Speaker 2: if she was having this free concert there, I'm assuming
Speaker 2: that a lot of people were traveling from out of
Speaker 2: town to be there to see this concert.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know how things went down there.
Speaker 1: But because of the amount of people, do you think
Speaker 1: everybody was going through a security system to get access
Speaker 1: to that area? I would say no, And like, you
Speaker 1: can't have that many people. If you see all the
Speaker 1: people that were so close quarters, you can't say something
Speaker 1: like that or there would have been a mass cast.
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure if they handled it right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they did handle it right because
Speaker 2: luckily it all worked out, But I just I can't
Speaker 2: imagine that they didn't have a little bit of anxiety
Speaker 2: as well, because even though you have okay, you have
Speaker 2: three people in custody, there's another three people that are
Speaker 2: just as evil that aren't even on your radar yet,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So that's and it's unfortunate
Speaker 2: because now we're getting to the spot in life where
Speaker 2: where events aren't happening anymore because of shit like this,
Speaker 2: and it's it's sad, like there's local events around here
Speaker 2: that are getting shut down because people are just like
Speaker 2: acting out of control, like a bunch of kids showing
Speaker 2: up and like start in trouble and like they're just like,
Speaker 2: you know what, we're not going to have these days
Speaker 2: to celebrate our town anymore.
Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, okay, that's just like where we're at. Well,
Speaker 1: you have to find a middle ground mentally where we
Speaker 1: live in a society where these things happen and it's
Speaker 1: really shitty and you know, there's always some fear going
Speaker 1: on when you leave your house. But I mean, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that late in a story coming
Speaker 1: up later too, but you have to live in a
Speaker 1: in this like state of mind where you understand something
Speaker 1: like that could happen. But you can't like just be
Speaker 1: sequestered to your house the rest of your life. So
Speaker 1: you just need to be very vigilant when you're out
Speaker 1: and be prepared. And obviously sometimes you can't get out
Speaker 1: of certain situations. But I think people just need to
Speaker 1: be aware. We live in a society where everybody's staring
Speaker 1: at their phone all of the time. Everybody's just so
Speaker 1: checked out. We need to be aware of our surroundings,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a big problem we have a
Speaker 1: lot of these times people are so checked out. I
Speaker 1: just said that to Gabe this weekend. I was like,
Speaker 1: all cops. Cops don't even need to pull people over
Speaker 1: for speeding anymore. They could literally park on the side
Speaker 1: of the road and just watch every single person looking
Speaker 1: in their lap at their phone and pull people over
Speaker 1: all day long for it. It's like the easiest job, seriously,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's so out of control driving. We'll be
Speaker 1: driving on the highway going sixty miles an hour and
Speaker 1: you know, Gabe's like a total talk about road rage.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the next one that poops on some
Speaker 1: but like he goes around someone that's like driving like
Speaker 1: a total tool, you know, And I look over and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, surprise, they're looking down at their lap
Speaker 1: on the freaking highway, Like yeah, I mean, people are
Speaker 1: just totally engrossed in their phone and not paying attention,
Speaker 1: which is which is good for the terrorists because they
Speaker 1: just don't have nobody's watching for them, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. But I think anybody's big everyone listening to
Speaker 1: the show could say one of their biggest fears is
Speaker 1: just like going and doing something recreational that didn't need
Speaker 1: to be done, like going to a concert and then
Speaker 1: like one of their kids or them dying there. Like
Speaker 1: it's it's such a fear that that that's why people
Speaker 1: decide to not go to things like that, I mean,
Speaker 1: because if that does happen, Like, how do you even
Speaker 1: live the rest of your life after something like that?
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, but you have to live your life
Speaker 1: at the same time. I know it happens at the
Speaker 1: grocery store, it happens at big events like this. You
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just.
Speaker 2: And guess what, It'll happen anywhere because there's just so
Speaker 2: much potential.
Speaker 1: You know, things happen all the time, and you're like
Speaker 1: like like nine to eleven being one of them.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, airplanes going into buildings or like, that was
Speaker 2: never on anybody's radar, right at least at least mine
Speaker 2: or anybody I know. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, so that's a thing.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, cars driving in the crowds is a thing.
Speaker 2: Like there's all these new things that happen, and there'll
Speaker 2: be new things that happen every year, so you can't
Speaker 2: ever really be prepared for it.
Speaker 1: No, I think the important thing is, like, obviously there's
Speaker 1: just some situations you can't get out of, but you
Speaker 1: need to make sure when you're out in public that
Speaker 1: you're aware of your situations and not staring at your phone.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm guilty of that too. So now that
Speaker 1: I'm preaching this, I'm gonna try to practice it as
Speaker 1: best as I can. Game's actually really good at that.
Speaker 2: Like every single time we're in a situation that we're
Speaker 2: around a lot of people, he'll be like, listen.
Speaker 1: He does it at the Phillies game stuff all the time.
Speaker 2: He's like, if there's an emergency, that's where we're going.
Speaker 2: He says it every single time, or somewhere like it's crazy.
Speaker 2: And when we're on the boardwalk, when we're here or there,
Speaker 2: like he's always just like, this is the plan in
Speaker 2: case anything happens, and it's it's like sucks that you
Speaker 2: have to think that way. But and like, I just
Speaker 2: pray to guy that I'm never in a situation where
Speaker 2: I have to like see if that plan actually works.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's messed up. All right, let's talk about.
Speaker 1: Ditty Okay, So right now they're doing jury selection for
Speaker 1: ditty trials. So it's not going to officially start until
Speaker 1: they pick the jury members because I can't really say jurers, like,
Speaker 1: but when they pick the jerry, it'll start. Which I
Speaker 1: was a little surprised at how quick gets starting, but
Speaker 1: I had brought this point up to my husband and
Speaker 1: he was saying that maybe they want to try to
Speaker 1: not risk other new information coming up, which is why
Speaker 1: it's so quick. But anyway, it's happening, and there's such
Speaker 1: high demand to get in the courthouse right now that
Speaker 1: people are paying people to wait in line for them.
Speaker 2: So what is their only X amount of seats in
Speaker 2: order to I mean, like this is the thing. A
Speaker 2: jury is not even picked yet, right, so it's not
Speaker 2: even starting yet, So what are they waiting in line?
Speaker 1: They're waiting in line until it gets picked. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't understand there. So every day you could go into
Speaker 1: the courthouse, but there's no cameras allowed, So I'm assuming
Speaker 1: most of this is going to be journalists that want
Speaker 1: to get in and hear the information themselves instead of
Speaker 1: hearing a reporter, because the only information we're going to
Speaker 1: get is from reporters that were inside the courthouse. There's
Speaker 1: no cameras, but regular people are allowed in there too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think anybody's allowed in there. Okay, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a mixture of nosy people and reporters. Okay, so this
Speaker 1: is this is like they're gonna go sit in while
Speaker 1: they're picking the people for the jury. Yeah, okay, there's
Speaker 1: some juicy questions coming up in the jury selection questionnaire,
Speaker 1: which we'll touch on in a second. But the demand
Speaker 1: is so high already, I can't imagine how crazy it's
Speaker 1: going to be when they start having people testify and
Speaker 1: when it's really underway. So there's a line wrapped around
Speaker 1: the block to just go in and hear this, and
Speaker 1: people are paying people up to thirty two dollars an
Speaker 1: hour to sit in their spot, but they said the
Speaker 1: going rates twenty five dollars an hour. I can't believe
Speaker 1: this exists. It's insane to me. I think.
Speaker 2: No, Listen, Like I was thinking about like some of
Speaker 2: our friends that are reporters, and it's like, if you
Speaker 2: want to get this scoop, like I certainly would. I
Speaker 2: would consider that really because if there's only X amount
Speaker 2: of spots, like you want to make sure you get
Speaker 2: the spot, and you might not be able to stay,
Speaker 2: like you have to have people on shifts sitting out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I was thinking about that too. Maybe
Speaker 1: we should ask Lauren about it because somebody like her
Speaker 1: would want to go in there, yeah, at the scoop herself,
Speaker 1: but she's a busy person, so it might be worth
Speaker 1: the money to pay somebody so you could just slip
Speaker 1: in right at the perfect time and then you could
Speaker 1: go about your day. Obviously.
Speaker 2: See, I could understand that it makes more sense for
Speaker 2: person that's doing it for their job, but like just
Speaker 2: a regular Like I'm sitting there thinking that this is
Speaker 2: just like regular people that want to watch and I'm
Speaker 2: like ghetto life, Like, why do you have so much
Speaker 2: free time to just sit around and wait to go
Speaker 2: watch this.
Speaker 1: You know. But talk about the questionnaire because some of
Speaker 1: the names are really rando. Yeah, So all the duror
Speaker 1: I can't say this word. All the jury members are
Speaker 1: given a questionnaire and some of the questions are just
Speaker 1: like have they ever been victims of some type of
Speaker 1: sexual assault or abuse or something? But one of the
Speaker 1: really weird things is they were given a list of
Speaker 1: at least one hundred and ninety people, including the names
Speaker 1: of celebrities and public figures, and ask to indicate which
Speaker 1: names they recognize. And some of those names that have
Speaker 1: come out are Michael B. Jordan, Kanye West, Kid Cuddy,
Speaker 1: Mike Myers, and Moore. And it's unclear how they're tied
Speaker 1: to the case, but those names are up.
Speaker 2: Meyers like from Saturday Night Live, I think, so what
Speaker 2: that's so random?
Speaker 1: Who Who's Michael B. Jordan? So, Michael B. Jordan's that
Speaker 1: he worked on the movie I worked on too? He
Speaker 1: is from my experience with him, he was a very
Speaker 1: nice person. But he is an actor. He was in
Speaker 1: Decreed movies and a bunch of other stuff. Is he
Speaker 1: related to the other Michael Jordan. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: But in SAG you can't have the same name as
Speaker 1: somebody else. So if Michael Jordan was already registered in
Speaker 1: the Screen Actors Guild, you have to have some differentiating
Speaker 1: like initial or something. So I think ms in space jam,
Speaker 1: so he might be enlisted in that. Oh yeah, because
Speaker 1: I think even in a bunch of commercials, who's Kid Coody? Well,
Speaker 1: Kid Cuddy is a musician. Kanye West we know is
Speaker 1: a musician. We talked about him on yesterday's episode. I
Speaker 1: don't understand why Mike Myers is wrapped into this, but
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily saying these people are guilty, Like he
Speaker 1: might have just been at a party, but I don't
Speaker 1: know because they haven't revealed how these people are connected
Speaker 1: to the case. Hit. Yeah, I mean Kanye West is
Speaker 1: like whatever, like, but you don't want to see your
Speaker 1: name in a headline associated with this trafficking case.
Speaker 2: Obviously, the same with It's the same with Epstein. It's
Speaker 2: just like all these people that ever like sat next
Speaker 2: to them at a party, like, are getting involved and
Speaker 2: that sucks for them because there might genuinely be like
Speaker 2: no connection. And I just thought it just was such
Speaker 2: a random list of names. So all right, well, we're
Speaker 2: gonna stap the date on this case and see, like
Speaker 2: what happens, because I'm sure it's gonna be juicy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But at the same time, I kind of think
Speaker 1: the paying somebody to wait in line for you is genius.
Speaker 1: So if it's your job, if it's your job, if
Speaker 1: you're just like a nosy, lazy person, then I don't
Speaker 1: think it works. All right. So Wanda Barzi, who was
Speaker 1: convicted in the early two thousands for kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart,
Speaker 1: has been arrested after she allegedly visited two parks which
Speaker 1: she's not allowed to go to because she's a registered
Speaker 1: sex offender. Why is this woman out of jail? Out
Speaker 1: of jail? Like I don't understand, Like, so, so what
Speaker 1: did when? Did this happen? Back in two thousand and two? Okay,
Speaker 1: so the kidnapping happened in two thousand and two. So
Speaker 1: they held her, her and Wanda's her and her husband
Speaker 1: held Elizabeth Smart captive for nine months. They can out
Speaker 1: of her home, Yes he was. He was working on
Speaker 1: the home right, like a contractor or gardener or something.
Speaker 1: I don't really remember the details of that part of
Speaker 1: the case. This is actually something that we should look into,
Speaker 1: because I totally forgot about this, But as soon as
Speaker 1: this came up today, I was thinking, like, I can't
Speaker 1: even believe that the person that was involved with this
Speaker 1: even ever saw the light of day. Again, well, that
Speaker 1: was my fresh complaint too. So the kidnapping happened between
Speaker 1: two thousand, So they kidnapped her in two thousand and two.
Speaker 1: She was found in two thousand and three alive, thank goodness.
Speaker 1: And in twenty and ten and Wanda was sitting stiff
Speaker 1: fifteen years in federal prison but was released eight years later,
Speaker 1: so she only served half of her sentence. She's a
Speaker 1: registered sex offender because of this, and she's been wandering
Speaker 1: around parks like I'm sorry she.
Speaker 2: Would encourage her husband to continuously rape Elizabeth Smart, who
Speaker 2: they both kidnapped out of her bedroom as a teenager.
Speaker 2: And this woman is like out and about yes, she
Speaker 2: she should like have the death penalty along with her husband.
Speaker 1: This is so I don't know, Like I know that
Speaker 1: there's lots of interviews with this Elizabeth Smart woman and
Speaker 1: now she's like an advocate for child victims and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, But what like This had to be so
Speaker 1: devastating on.
Speaker 2: Not only her life but her parents' life. Could you
Speaker 2: imagine something like that happening and not knowing what happened
Speaker 2: to your child for nine months? Nine months? Like, and
Speaker 2: imagine knowing what happened to your child within that nine months.
Speaker 2: Like these people are disgusting humans that should not be
Speaker 2: able to see the light of day.
Speaker 1: No, I one hundred percent agree. Like people want to
Speaker 1: argue that prison can rehab some people. You can't rehab
Speaker 1: kidnapping tendencies. I'm sorry. Like, if you're gonna hold a
Speaker 1: fourteen year old captive for nine months and have your
Speaker 1: husband's sexual assault her over and over and over again
Speaker 1: for your sick satisfaction, fuck you. You deserve to die. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Really, it's it's really like I don't feel bad for
Speaker 2: people like this at all, Like I don't care if
Speaker 2: she wants to be rehabilitated, like and Elizabeth. He has
Speaker 2: to live her life knowing this woman is out there
Speaker 2: and now, oh, like shocker, she's been arrested for going
Speaker 2: into two parks where other children are.
Speaker 1: Why is this person walking the streets? She's clearly a
Speaker 1: harmed in society. Then her husband Brian David Mitchell is
Speaker 1: serving a life sentence for the kidnapping, also deserves death.
Speaker 1: What's to say he's not gonna get out for no reason? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the thing with the death penalty.
Speaker 2: I guess that always that there's always a fear because
Speaker 2: at least that the death penalty is like a very
Speaker 2: certain thing that happens to I don't know, there's we
Speaker 2: we actually did a whole entire external exam with Matt Mangino,
Speaker 2: who wrote a book called The Executioner's Toll, and it's
Speaker 2: it's very good, and it's a very good conversation I
Speaker 2: had with him about the death penalty and just all
Speaker 2: of these like pros and cons of it and things
Speaker 2: like that. But overall, like when I think about this,
Speaker 2: I just think, for example, like Lacy Peterson and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, and and like how her mom's been going
Speaker 2: through this hell and he initially got the death penalty
Speaker 2: and now he does it, and now they're talking about
Speaker 2: like retrying him and getting him out of it completely,
Speaker 2: and and like if he's innocent, then I guess that's
Speaker 2: why it's good that the death penalty didn't happen for him.
Speaker 1: But like if they're able to really prove it. But
Speaker 1: like just the whole situation of it is so.
Speaker 2: So pointing towards the fact that that he did it.
Speaker 2: So now she might have to live with the fact that,
Speaker 2: like there's even a possibility that this guy might get out.
Speaker 2: I mean, her life has has been really buy this
Speaker 2: and so it's like things like that, and prison isn't absolute,
Speaker 2: Like there's always a way to get out of it,
Speaker 2: and there's always somebody willing to stand up for somebody
Speaker 2: to get out of it. And how did she even
Speaker 2: get half of her sentence because she was good in jail?
Speaker 2: Like that's such bullshit. This episode is brought to you
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Speaker 1: Every day.
Speaker 2: We do high profile death disseection every week, sometimes like
Speaker 2: this week, we're doing one on Lori Value and it
Speaker 2: is going to be over the course of three weeks
Speaker 2: because there's just so much information to go through. The case,
Speaker 2: but we really break down the scene investigation and the
Speaker 2: court case. But we all so look at, of course
Speaker 2: my specialty, all of the autopsies and what they saw
Speaker 2: on each one of the bodies. And in this case,
Speaker 2: we talk about at least four dead people if not
Speaker 2: more associated with the case, which is just crazy and
Speaker 2: really disturbing. Honestly, the death investigation in America is just
Speaker 2: kind of blowing my mind right now with this case.
Speaker 2: We also have a very special video that's going up
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Speaker 1: sign up. So a couple in Spain was arrested after
Speaker 1: it was discovered they kept their three kids captive in
Speaker 1: their home since twenty twenty one due to COVID concerns.
Speaker 1: This is this is mind blowing, right, Yes, I get Yeah.
Speaker 1: So a neighbor called the cops and was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen these kids going to school
Speaker 1: in years, Like what's going on? Which is interesting because
Speaker 1: we had just been talking about this recently. I guess
Speaker 1: with the kids going to school, but like, does this
Speaker 1: person know for sure they're not homeschooled? And the police
Speaker 1: were saying at first that there was no immediate red flags,
Speaker 1: of course until they went inside of the house. Well,
Speaker 1: I think this is this is an important case to
Speaker 1: talk about because I especially like I live on a
Speaker 1: street that our houses are very close together, there's multiple
Speaker 1: children living on the street, and I kind of like
Speaker 1: see people coming and going all the time. So whenever
Speaker 1: you see like you get to know I know, people's habits,
Speaker 1: and whenever you see your neighbors like something's like not off,
Speaker 1: it's something should click inside you like, hey, maybe I
Speaker 1: should call the police.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't even have to be like you haven't
Speaker 2: seen the kids. It could be like an older person
Speaker 2: you haven't seen left their house or whatever. For a while,
Speaker 2: but this like, it's good that this person had some
Speaker 2: kind of an instinct to be like something's up here.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they didn't see them getting on
Speaker 2: the school bus, or maybe they have kids that go
Speaker 2: to the school that are like, we haven't seen these kids.
Speaker 2: But like, the thing is is that even if the
Speaker 2: kids weren't going to school, like, this person wasn't seeing
Speaker 2: the kids play outside or anything like, something was unusual,
Speaker 2: which is why they called police. Yeah, and on top
Speaker 2: of that, they realized they hadn't seen the family as
Speaker 2: a whole leave since December twenty twenty one. The father
Speaker 2: would occasionally leave to get the mail or to get groceries,
Speaker 2: but they called police and when police got there, the
Speaker 2: parents let them in the house. Of course, the parents
Speaker 2: put three masks on the children and claim that they
Speaker 2: were very sick. The police claimed the kids were not
Speaker 2: sick at all, but they were really dirty and just
Speaker 2: not bathed properly. They also discovered that the children slept
Speaker 2: in cribs and defaced monsters and dolls were found in
Speaker 2: their rooms, and the house was littered with trash and
Speaker 2: filled with lots of medication and masks. So they said
Speaker 2: the state of the house was basically this house of horrors,
Speaker 2: horrible for these children. So the kids were two eight
Speaker 2: year old twins and a ten year old. So you
Speaker 2: have to think when COVID started the kid, the one
Speaker 2: kid was five and the twins were three, so they
Speaker 2: were well at least the three year olds. Maybe I
Speaker 2: don't even know if you would put a three year
Speaker 2: old in a crib, but it's a little bizarre that
Speaker 2: they were still in cribs now.
Speaker 1: It's just it's sick when you.
Speaker 2: Look at this whole case though, and just think of this,
Speaker 2: you go back to that time and you're like, people
Speaker 2: were seriously that affected by this that it screwed them
Speaker 2: up so bad. And I mean, of course, this is
Speaker 2: this like a thing that they're legitimately fearful or is
Speaker 2: this just like, okay, they're an abuse situation, Like is
Speaker 2: it an actual abuse situation or is it that the
Speaker 2: parents are like psychologically really believe that their kids were
Speaker 2: going to get hurt.
Speaker 1: Because I some of that shit.
Speaker 2: That was going on the news, I was like, these
Speaker 2: people are like for me, I didn't get scared because
Speaker 2: I know medicine, but I could imagine being a person
Speaker 2: that doesn't really understand things, and listening to the things
Speaker 2: they were saying on the news.
Speaker 1: I actually I have a death counter on the television.
Speaker 1: So you're every day you're being faced with how many
Speaker 1: people are dying from this, even though you've said plenty
Speaker 1: of times like people die every day, it happens. But
Speaker 1: when you see this illness is wiping everybody out, it
Speaker 1: scares everybody. And then you have the governments telling everybody
Speaker 1: that they need to be afraid of it. And you
Speaker 1: know there's this like wit hunting against all these people
Speaker 1: for not doing everything the government says. When if we
Speaker 1: ever lived in a society where everybody does exactly what
Speaker 1: the government says, it's fucking crazy. Yeah, it is crazy.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because even there's some people close in
Speaker 2: my life that I was just.
Speaker 1: Like, all right, guy, you're going a little bit overboard, Jack,
Speaker 1: but you have to if she's listening right now, no,
Speaker 1: but you have to understand. But like background, I do
Speaker 1: understand that, but I'm saying people don't. The people in
Speaker 1: my life that were that were going a little overboard
Speaker 1: are like completely fine now, like are people Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're fine. They're they go out and they're like
Speaker 1: doing things with their kids. They might be like a
Speaker 1: little bit more cautious if they're sick or something like that,
Speaker 1: but they're they're fine. They're like this.
Speaker 2: I'm actually surprised we don't hear about this more often.
Speaker 2: But I see, I swear I see it around here.
Speaker 2: Like I'm telling you, I see people wearing a mask
Speaker 2: and you just.
Speaker 1: Like, what are you doing right now, dude?
Speaker 2: Like it's it's insane to me. Like, and especially in
Speaker 2: the car. The car situation is the is the the
Speaker 2: craziest part of it. If you're by yourself in your
Speaker 2: own vehicle. I mean, that is just not how air
Speaker 2: was well. But like, I genuinely think that people got
Speaker 2: so scared that that they like can't get out of it.
Speaker 2: And I do understand that because, like I said, like
Speaker 2: people don't understand it. And there's people that.
Speaker 1: Have already were prone to being what you would call
Speaker 1: like a germaphobe to begin with, and this just like
Speaker 1: threw them over the edge kind of. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could find out about this family,
Speaker 1: like were they completely normal before this happened and they
Speaker 1: got so freaked out. But now it's like their kids
Speaker 1: are actually being more hurt than they would be if
Speaker 1: they were in public. Listen. I think they're using it
Speaker 1: as an excuse to shield abusing the kids, because if
Speaker 1: you were just scared they were gonna get sick, why
Speaker 1: are they living in a filthy like they could get
Speaker 1: sick from living in a filthy house and being that
Speaker 1: according to oh yeah, there was CC's all over the house.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the COVID thing is like this
Speaker 1: blanketed excuse, like we were afraid to send them outside. No,
Speaker 1: you probably had abusive tendencies before that, and you're using
Speaker 1: it as an excuse. It's not like they went in
Speaker 1: this house and these children weren't allowed outside, but they're
Speaker 1: perfectly clean and the house is clean and everything like that.
Speaker 1: Like this just seems like a really shitty family that
Speaker 1: used this as an excuse to abuse their children.
Speaker 2: Well, so I guess when the cops took the kids
Speaker 2: out of the house, they were like, go in the
Speaker 2: garden right now and just wait here. And apparently one
Speaker 2: of the kids saw us now and like went they said,
Speaker 2: went crazy and freaked out.
Speaker 1: So now these kids that have not been out of
Speaker 1: their house for more than half of their life right
Speaker 1: in living in this situation, are now in a juvenile
Speaker 1: center because their parents are both in prison.
Speaker 2: It's just so it's so terrible. They're going to need
Speaker 2: like major rehab to just be able to I mean,
Speaker 2: they haven't even associated with any people now. The interesting thing, though,
Speaker 2: is is that they did mention in the article that
Speaker 2: these children weren't malnourished. They were eating, they were being fed.
Speaker 1: It was like they weren't malnourished, but they were filthy
Speaker 1: for living.
Speaker 2: And I understand that, but it's just it's just it's
Speaker 2: I think it's like a little bit of a different case,
Speaker 2: and I'm just curious, like what the investigation is going
Speaker 2: to show, Like was was the mom like doing school
Speaker 2: with them at home? And like like I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like I like it, not you Why would you say
Speaker 2: not though?
Speaker 1: You don't know? Like because if people have you listen,
Speaker 1: I loved your children enough to homeschool them, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be letting them sleep around demon as dolls and living
Speaker 1: in rooms of shit all over it.
Speaker 2: I understand that, but I'm just saying, like, if they
Speaker 2: were truly mental over this, then like they they didn't
Speaker 2: say any of that in the article. It's not like
Speaker 2: they were starving them and tying them up and all
Speaker 2: this stuff. Like it just didn't say any of that.
Speaker 2: That's like typically what you see in abuse situation.
Speaker 1: I just don't buy it. There's plenty of agoraphobic people
Speaker 1: that don't live in absolute, hoarded, filthy mess houses. Well,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people. No, you do, though, there's plenty
Speaker 1: of people that do, but it's not every case. So
Speaker 1: I just called bullshit on this. I think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: All right. So last year, this six year old went
Speaker 1: missing in South Africa and now her mother and two
Speaker 1: others have been convicted after they allegedly sold her to
Speaker 1: a local healer that wanted the child's eyes and skin.
Speaker 1: What did they so, she said she wanted the child
Speaker 1: for her eyes and skin. Were they actually going to
Speaker 1: like cut out her eyes and skin or did they
Speaker 1: just think that? You know how, in some cultures, like
Speaker 1: they think that people that are born a little bit
Speaker 1: different have like these magical powers. Like we talked about
Speaker 1: a case once in the gross room of a child
Speaker 1: that was born with a parasitic twin that had extra
Speaker 1: limbs and they were considered to be like some kind
Speaker 1: of a god, right because they were born in this
Speaker 1: special kind of a way. And it could it be
Speaker 1: like that because this kid, this kid's like really cute.
Speaker 1: Actually it's I hate seeing pictures of kids that get her.
Speaker 1: And she's a very She's like a beautiful little girl
Speaker 1: that's got this like really pretty like light brown skin
Speaker 1: color with these bright blue eyes. And I could see
Speaker 1: that she doesn't look like everybody else that lives there,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, or like a majority of people,
Speaker 1: So she might be like a coveted like special child
Speaker 1: to some people or whatever in this culture. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I really like, is it like some legit like they
Speaker 1: were gonna like cut her eyes and skin out to
Speaker 1: do some like thing. I don't know. But like the kids,
Speaker 1: the kid's missing still, so why are they calling it
Speaker 1: a kidnapping the kids? Like the kid's probably dead, Like
Speaker 1: where is she? Well, That's what I'm saying. We don't
Speaker 1: really know the purpose of this, and we don't really
Speaker 1: know for a fact if this kid went to this
Speaker 1: quote unquote healer because a neighbor had testified that the
Speaker 1: mother said she was potentially can considering selling her to
Speaker 1: the healer and then suggested it had been done, and
Speaker 1: then offered money to people that she talked about it
Speaker 1: with for their silence. But the child has been missing
Speaker 1: since February of twenty twenty four. They don't know where
Speaker 1: she is at all. They have questioned this healer but
Speaker 1: said there's a total lack of evidence that this person's
Speaker 1: even involved, so we don't know this for effect. But
Speaker 1: according to the mother, that's what she said to a neighbor.
Speaker 1: But a teacher had also asked about this child, and
Speaker 1: the mother said she was quote on a ship inside
Speaker 1: a container and they were on the way to West Africa.
Speaker 1: Would that not trigger like an alarm in your brain?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's funny that we always hear about these stories about
Speaker 2: neighbors getting interviewed and people saying like the most outrageous
Speaker 2: shit to people.
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine, like me and my neighbors talk
Speaker 1: about like plants and like people leaving their abandoned car
Speaker 1: up front of one of our houses and like stuff
Speaker 1: like that, like we're not talking about like I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine somebody being like, oh, hey, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: your son for a while Oh, yeah, he's like on
Speaker 1: a ship inside of a container somewhere, you'd be like, okay, well, sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about that couple in Utah, I
Speaker 1: guess where the guy said like something, made a joke
Speaker 1: about his wife poisoning them, and then she like actually
Speaker 1: did and wrote a children's book about dead dad. We
Speaker 1: did a high profile. That's a section on that too.
Speaker 1: What I forget what, I don't remember their names, but
Speaker 1: I think sometimes people just say really crazy shit and
Speaker 1: you just assume they're joking because it's so outrageous, and
Speaker 1: then these things come up later and you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can't even believe that. Well, part of
Speaker 1: this one one of the really cool parts of the
Speaker 1: gross Room.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if you notice this, but when
Speaker 2: we posted the the Lori Vallu high profile that's a
Speaker 2: section yesterday, one of the people in the gross Room
Speaker 2: said that she used to work with Tammy Davel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it happened like it.
Speaker 2: Happens like in the grosser room, Like people are like like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I went to school with that person or this or that,
Speaker 2: and you're like, wait a second, what, Like I could
Speaker 2: talk to somebody that's like close to this case, because
Speaker 2: that's outrageous to me, Like imagine knowing somebody involved in some.
Speaker 1: Of these high profile cases. It's nuts. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to this new research that's revealing that using marijuana during
Speaker 1: pregnancy is linked to many problems. I mean, did we
Speaker 1: not know this beforehand? No, because it's natural and there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with weed, and it doesn't hurt anybody. Isn't
Speaker 1: a lot of medication from plants.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this out loud right now that
Speaker 2: one of the worst things that has ever been done
Speaker 2: in the history of the United States in the past
Speaker 2: twenty years. And you could list lots of things, I
Speaker 2: would say one of the biggest things that we're going
Speaker 2: to look back and say was the most terrible mistake
Speaker 2: was legalizing marijuana.
Speaker 1: I really believe that, like that it's not okay, Karen,
Speaker 1: because I've been saying this from the beginning that because
Speaker 1: the way people's minds work is that people say, oh,
Speaker 1: if the government says it's safe.
Speaker 2: Then it's not bad. And then you've noticed since it's
Speaker 2: been legal that you smell it everywhere everyone's using it.
Speaker 2: It's just like it's been this study confirms that it's
Speaker 2: double pregnant. People are using it double now than they
Speaker 2: were before. All of it is because of the government
Speaker 2: saying it's okay, So like bullshit.
Speaker 1: Because it's thehol and cigarettes are legal to purchase too,
Speaker 1: and people still, yeah, the harmful effects of them, so
Speaker 1: you woant to call me a morodd people fucking drink
Speaker 1: alcohol and spokes cigarettes when they're pregnant, fully knowing they
Speaker 1: cause problems for decades and decades and decades. So obviously, yeah,
Speaker 1: any type of my point, that's my point.
Speaker 2: If they weren't legal, people wouldn't be buying them at
Speaker 2: the level they know.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't absolutely not. Hello, during prohibition, everybody was still
Speaker 1: buying alcohol.
Speaker 2: Not like not on the level that they do now,
Speaker 2: and it wouldn't be the way it is now.
Speaker 1: I'm guarantee you there's a there is analystic place I
Speaker 1: am not. I am not. I guess what, like, you're
Speaker 1: gonna look at this and smoke weed. Don't buy it
Speaker 1: at a dispensary because it's so expensive and they still
Speaker 1: getting it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, the legality of it makes it okay. And
Speaker 2: that's why you smell it all the time because people
Speaker 2: are doing it everywhere.
Speaker 1: Now it just is it's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, before you'd be like, oh, well, I can't
Speaker 2: smoke walking up the street, and I can't smoke in
Speaker 2: my car because if I get pulled over, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: like lose my license and ship. Now no, you just
Speaker 2: do it because you're not gonna get in trouble anymore.
Speaker 2: And that's that's what the problem is. It's because there's
Speaker 2: something that when people in America are told that the
Speaker 2: government says it's okay, and this could go as far
Speaker 2: as the FDA and drugs and everything else, that it's safe,
Speaker 2: that there's some kind of thing that's like it's not
Speaker 2: that bad. And when you tell people that marijuana used
Speaker 2: has has skyrocketed since it's been.
Speaker 1: Legalized, ever said weed was okay for pregnancy, No, you're
Speaker 1: talking about people say that it's a plant. People say
Speaker 1: that it's a yeah, but most pharmaceuticals and opiates are
Speaker 1: also plants, So like that's idiotic. Nobody's like out there
Speaker 1: saying we'd say for pregnancy. People falsely assume it is,
Speaker 1: but they're idiots and uneducated about it. And that's why.
Speaker 2: It's because people think that it's okay because the government
Speaker 2: legalizes it.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you if that's what you want to think
Speaker 1: of it, but it is.
Speaker 2: And when you watch this in fifty years, you're gonna
Speaker 2: think I'm a genius, So don't I mean, okay, you
Speaker 2: don't have to now, but you will when you see it,
Speaker 2: because it's the same exact thing with the government saying
Speaker 2: that it's okay to drink alcohol and everything else, and
Speaker 2: the drinking and driving is out of control. Alcoholisms out
Speaker 2: of control, cigarettes are out of control. All of it's
Speaker 2: out of control.
Speaker 1: Anyway, So this neat new research that was done.
Speaker 2: So basically, like any medical professional that knows anything is saying, like,
Speaker 2: whatever you think about marijuana, like throw it out the window.
Speaker 2: Whatever studies that have been done over the course of
Speaker 2: however many years back in the eighties and the nineties, Like,
Speaker 2: none of that shit matters anymore, because we're dealing with
Speaker 2: a whole new marijuana with a higher potency and genetically modified.
Speaker 2: It's just not the same exact drug as it was
Speaker 2: when other studies were done. So we don't even know
Speaker 2: the long term effects of it because we haven't been
Speaker 2: studying enough. And this so now we've talked about on
Speaker 2: this program already this year with multiple different things coming
Speaker 2: out that it increases your risk of stroke by forty
Speaker 2: two percent, it increases your risk of a heart attack
Speaker 2: by twenty five percent. It's been linked to cardiac arrhythmias, myocarditis.
Speaker 2: People that use it have long lasting mental disorders including depressions,
Speaker 2: social anxieties, schizophrenia, self harm, and death, all of these
Speaker 2: things that were not a thing until now. Right, So
Speaker 2: now it's all coming out. It's the same exact thing
Speaker 2: that's going to happen with ozebic when you when you
Speaker 2: think about like, this is this thing that's awesome, it's
Speaker 2: this natural thing.
Speaker 1: We're going to use it all the time, and now
Speaker 1: all of a.
Speaker 2: Sudden, it's like it's like ozempics and miracle drug and
Speaker 2: then just give it a couple years and that shit's
Speaker 2: going to be like off the market.
Speaker 1: Probably it's that terrible for you. So okay, let's go
Speaker 1: back to this.
Speaker 2: So Jama Pediatrics analyzed fifty one different recent studies that
Speaker 2: have to do with marijuana over twenty one million people
Speaker 2: over the course of all of those studies, So that's
Speaker 2: this is a huge study over the course of a
Speaker 2: lot of people, and it shows that participants of marijuana
Speaker 2: use during pregnancy was linked to listen to these staggering statistics,
Speaker 2: fifty two percent higher risk of pre term delivery before
Speaker 2: thirty seven weeks, seventy five percent higher risk of a
Speaker 2: low birth weight which is less than five point five
Speaker 2: pounds at delivery, and one So only six of the
Speaker 2: studies of those that were studied showed cannabis use and death.
Speaker 2: And of those studies, they found that there was a
Speaker 2: twenty nine percent high risk of infant death associated with
Speaker 2: the use of marijuana during pregnancy. Okay, that that is
Speaker 2: Like these numbers are huge, huge, huge and big big
Speaker 2: groups of study twenty one million.
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, but I don't personally find
Speaker 1: this information shocking, is what I'm getting it. Like, of course,
Speaker 1: when you do a recreational drug when you're pregnant, it's
Speaker 1: going to be harmful to your child, like obviously, but
Speaker 1: it's legal now, so it's it's not as harmful. Your
Speaker 1: argument about the legals, like cahol is legal and it
Speaker 1: is harmful to babies, sigarette is cigarettes are legal and
Speaker 1: they're harmful to babies. Weed is legal babies. So since
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Marijuana use has doubled in pregnant women alone, and it
Speaker 2: is more than double. It's other, it's it's more than
Speaker 2: doubled in everyone else. It's it's exacerbated since it's become legal.
Speaker 2: So if you don't see the correlation between the legality
Speaker 2: of it and the increase in use, then like I
Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you, okay, because that that's
Speaker 2: the turning point when you want to say the turning
Speaker 2: point of something like when did school shootings increase?
Speaker 1: Like, okay, it was the Internet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were school shootings before the Internet, But when
Speaker 2: did they get crazier because of the Internet. Yeah, people
Speaker 2: spoke the legality, But now, when did it start doubling
Speaker 2: and increasing significantly?
Speaker 1: Is when it became legal, that's all. And also only
Speaker 1: have these numbers because it's legal, and more people are
Speaker 1: admitting to do it because they can't get in trouble
Speaker 1: for it anymore. So we don't know if these numbers
Speaker 1: are accurate, because they're accurate. Listen, Listen, I don't give
Speaker 1: a shit about any of the numbers actually, because like
Speaker 1: I'm a human that goes outside and sees with my
Speaker 1: own eyes and smells with my own nose. I see
Speaker 1: what's happening. But if you can say ten years ago,
Speaker 1: if I smoked weed when I was a teenager, I
Speaker 1: would have said, no, I don't, and I did. Guess what,
Speaker 1: that fucked up the study. So like, ok the numbers
Speaker 1: are high, but they've been high. So like, no, we
Speaker 1: need to translating. You're you're so ridiculous. Yes, you you
Speaker 1: actually think that the numbers of marijuana use aren't higher. Now, like,
Speaker 1: do you live in society and go outside. I just
Speaker 1: said they're higher. I just said, but they have always
Speaker 1: been high. It's not like the people literally they have
Speaker 1: literally never been anywhere near where they're at right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: but you're acting like nobody in the world smoked weed
Speaker 1: until they made it. No I didn't. I just said
Speaker 1: that it had significantly increased since it got legal. I
Speaker 1: said that, Okay five times. Let's wrap this up because
Speaker 1: the bottom line is, obviously it's dangerous to smoke or
Speaker 1: use any marijuana products like it is with any other
Speaker 1: recreational drug and most pharmaceuticals when you're pregnant. So you
Speaker 1: need to do your own research and not expect that
Speaker 1: the government is telling you something is safe. Like, that's
Speaker 1: idiotic to just believe that at face value because something
Speaker 1: is legal but it's safe. It's idiotic.
Speaker 2: But it's the psychology of people. Okay, just trust me,
Speaker 2: Like I'm telling you right now, if they said tomorrow
Speaker 2: that heroin was legal, I guarantee you that the numbers
Speaker 2: would double. I'm telling you right now. I don't think
Speaker 2: anybody doing heroin is worried about it. If it's legal or
Speaker 2: not they want. I'm telling you, though, if the government
Speaker 2: says that it's considered to be a recreational drug that's safe,
Speaker 2: more people will start using it.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, but at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: still your responsibility to know it's safe to put in you.
Speaker 2: Of course, it's everybody's responsibility. But I'm just putting it
Speaker 2: out there that that's what I think.
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