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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Mother Knows Death.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode, we're going to be talking about the

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Speaker 2: huge Lady Gaga concert that happened over the weekend, and

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Speaker 2: the foiled terrorism plot, people paying people to hold their

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Speaker 2: place in line for the Diddy trial, Elizabeth Smart's kidnapper

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Speaker 2: is back in the news, crazy COVID people, a mom

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Speaker 2: doing the unthinkable to her child, and a new study

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Speaker 2: suggesting that marijuana use during pregnancy is very harmful.

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Speaker 1: To a fetus. Like, uh, all this and more on

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Speaker 1: today's episode, Let's get started with the Lady Gaga concert. So,

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Speaker 1: Lady Gaga had this enormous free concert in Rio de

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Speaker 1: Janeiro that was like, I saw those pictures on social media.

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Speaker 1: It was outrageous. I can't believe how many people were there.

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Speaker 1: It was a record breaking event with two point five

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Speaker 1: million people. Apparently Madonna had done it before and only

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Speaker 1: had about one point five million people. She like, that's

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Speaker 1: just like so impressive.

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Speaker 2: When I saw the video, it just doesn't even look

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Speaker 2: real and it just kept going and going and the

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Speaker 2: people and the people.

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is so cool. It's a really

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Speaker 1: huge accomplishment for her. I mean, that is so many people.

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Speaker 1: I think about all these giant festivals that sometimes re

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Speaker 1: took one hundred thousand people, and I can't imagine two

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Speaker 1: over two million people. It is so insane. I can't

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Speaker 1: even believe they have the infrastructure to hold something like that.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's just like it's so grand and but

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Speaker 2: really good for her, you know, but of course we

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Speaker 2: can't have nice things.

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Speaker 1: So after the show, it came out that several people

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Speaker 1: had been planning in a tack on the concert, specifically

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Speaker 1: targeting the LGBTQ plus community. This is like so fucked up.

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Speaker 1: The more I was researching into this, it's just so

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Speaker 1: horrible what happened. These people were posing as Lady Gaga fans.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to recruit teenagers online to carry out these

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Speaker 1: attacks with explosives and molotov cocktails. They were calling it

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Speaker 1: Operation Fake Monster because her fan base is called little Monsters.

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Speaker 1: And on top of that, so they found these two

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Speaker 1: people that were trying to recruit these teenagers and their

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Speaker 1: goal was to quote gay notoriety on social media. And

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Speaker 1: then a third person was found planning a separate attack

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Speaker 1: where he was planning on doing a Satanic ritual killing

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Speaker 1: a child or a baby door in the concert. What

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Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with people? I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: side note. What what are our fans called little monster?

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Speaker 1: Hers are called little monsters? Well, we guys have anu

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Speaker 1: for our fan base. Yeah, you guys have to think

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Speaker 1: of something. So if you guys, when I come up

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Speaker 1: with something, because when it was just you, we were

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Speaker 1: jokingly calling people fan jemmies but which worked. But now

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Speaker 1: that you're there too, and it's like a new platform,

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Speaker 1: which should be something different, and we don't want to

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Speaker 1: call you like death heeads or something, because I feel

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Speaker 1: like grateful dead fans might already be called that, and

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Speaker 1: it's kind of similar to methods. No, no, you guys

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Speaker 1: could come up. You guys do have to be like

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Speaker 1: on meth to listen to this this show and like

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. But okay, every time somebody's like what your

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Speaker 1: podcasts about, I'm like, I don't even want to talk

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Speaker 1: about Yeah, all right, so we're going we get distracted

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Speaker 1: as usual. Okay, so so these people we're gonna use

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Speaker 1: IDs like, so I'm all tough cocktail.

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Speaker 2: So you're thinking like an ID is terrible. It's the

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Speaker 2: stuff that they use in war all the time. When

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Speaker 2: you see these soldiers getting their limbs blown off, especially

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Speaker 2: something like that was used for the Boston marathon bombing,

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Speaker 2: and you know how devastating that was. So things like that,

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Speaker 2: which is crazy. But but then you got this and

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Speaker 2: they're teenagers, so I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: They're like actually children.

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Speaker 2: And then on top of that, the other person was

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Speaker 2: Like what like this was actually going to happen if

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Speaker 2: how did? Do you know how they figured it out?

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Speaker 1: I believe they got tipped off, And they're pretty discreet

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Speaker 2: If the police are there are one hundred percent confident

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Speaker 2: self harm, pedophilia. One of the teenagers actually had child

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Speaker 2: porn on their phone. Like this person, this child is

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Speaker 2: a terrible human being. Child porn on your phone, and

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Speaker 2: you're like who raised this person?

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Speaker 1: Really? Who raised this kid? Okay, side, it's generally about

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Speaker 1: a bunch of people that are lost. So yeah, when

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Speaker 2: So regardless that they get they're on these forums and

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Speaker 2: I say this all the time, like, like a good

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Speaker 2: example is the Grosser Room. Like we're we're an online

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Speaker 2: like interest. The problem is is that there's similar things

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Speaker 2: maybe that's why they didn't tell Lady Gaga and they

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Speaker 2: did a similar thing happen to with Tyler Swift that

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Speaker 2: she had to cancel her She ended up canceling the show.

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Speaker 1: Well, she had to cancel a show because of a

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Speaker 1: at an area Ona Grande concert, So there is fear

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's see this is the messed up though,

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Speaker 2: because she would have canceled the event right, and not

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Speaker 2: for her safety, but like you have people that are

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Speaker 2: feel and horrible that people were getting hurt when they

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Speaker 1: And so I don't know how things went down there.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, okay, that's just like where we're at. Well,

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's so out of control driving. We'll be

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Speaker 1: just like going and doing something recreational that didn't need

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Speaker 1: it's it's such a fear that that that's why people

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Speaker 2: like there's even a possibility that this guy might get out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, her life has has been really buy this

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Speaker 2: Like there's always a way to get out of it,

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Speaker 1: Head over to the gross Room dot com now to

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Speaker 1: sign up. So a couple in Spain was arrested after

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Speaker 1: it was discovered they kept their three kids captive in

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Speaker 1: their home since twenty twenty one due to COVID concerns.

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Speaker 1: This is this is mind blowing, right, Yes, I get Yeah.

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00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: So a neighbor called the cops and was just like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen these kids going to school

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Speaker 1: in years, Like what's going on? Which is interesting because

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Speaker 1: we had just been talking about this recently. I guess

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Speaker 1: with the kids going to school, but like, does this

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Speaker 1: person know for sure they're not homeschooled? And the police

482
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Speaker 1: were saying at first that there was no immediate red flags,

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Speaker 1: of course until they went inside of the house. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think this is this is an important case to

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Speaker 1: talk about because I especially like I live on a

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Speaker 1: street that our houses are very close together, there's multiple

487
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Speaker 1: children living on the street, and I kind of like

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Speaker 1: see people coming and going all the time. So whenever

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Speaker 1: you see like you get to know I know, people's habits,

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Speaker 1: and whenever you see your neighbors like something's like not off,

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Speaker 1: it's something should click inside you like, hey, maybe I

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Speaker 1: should call the police.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't even have to be like you haven't

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Speaker 2: seen the kids. It could be like an older person

495
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Speaker 2: you haven't seen left their house or whatever. For a while,

496
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Speaker 2: but this like, it's good that this person had some

497
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Speaker 2: kind of an instinct to be like something's up here.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they didn't see them getting on

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Speaker 2: the school bus, or maybe they have kids that go

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Speaker 2: to the school that are like, we haven't seen these kids.

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Speaker 2: But like, the thing is is that even if the

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Speaker 2: kids weren't going to school, like, this person wasn't seeing

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Speaker 2: the kids play outside or anything like, something was unusual,

504
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Speaker 2: which is why they called police. Yeah, and on top

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Speaker 2: of that, they realized they hadn't seen the family as

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Speaker 2: a whole leave since December twenty twenty one. The father

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Speaker 2: would occasionally leave to get the mail or to get groceries,

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Speaker 2: but they called police and when police got there, the

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Speaker 2: parents let them in the house. Of course, the parents

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Speaker 2: put three masks on the children and claim that they

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Speaker 2: were very sick. The police claimed the kids were not

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Speaker 2: sick at all, but they were really dirty and just

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Speaker 2: not bathed properly. They also discovered that the children slept

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Speaker 2: in cribs and defaced monsters and dolls were found in

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Speaker 2: their rooms, and the house was littered with trash and

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Speaker 2: filled with lots of medication and masks. So they said

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Speaker 2: the state of the house was basically this house of horrors,

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Speaker 2: horrible for these children. So the kids were two eight

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Speaker 2: year old twins and a ten year old. So you

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Speaker 2: have to think when COVID started the kid, the one

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Speaker 2: kid was five and the twins were three, so they

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Speaker 2: were well at least the three year olds. Maybe I

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Speaker 2: don't even know if you would put a three year

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Speaker 2: old in a crib, but it's a little bizarre that

525
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Speaker 2: they were still in cribs now.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's sick when you.

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Speaker 2: Look at this whole case though, and just think of this,

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Speaker 2: you go back to that time and you're like, people

529
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Speaker 2: were seriously that affected by this that it screwed them

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Speaker 2: up so bad. And I mean, of course, this is

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Speaker 2: this like a thing that they're legitimately fearful or is

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Speaker 2: this just like, okay, they're an abuse situation, Like is

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Speaker 2: it an actual abuse situation or is it that the

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Speaker 2: parents are like psychologically really believe that their kids were

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Speaker 2: going to get hurt.

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Speaker 1: Because I some of that shit.

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Speaker 2: That was going on the news, I was like, these

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Speaker 2: people are like for me, I didn't get scared because

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Speaker 2: I know medicine, but I could imagine being a person

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Speaker 2: that doesn't really understand things, and listening to the things

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Speaker 2: they were saying on the news.

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Speaker 1: I actually I have a death counter on the television.

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Speaker 1: So you're every day you're being faced with how many

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Speaker 1: people are dying from this, even though you've said plenty

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Speaker 1: of times like people die every day, it happens. But

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Speaker 1: when you see this illness is wiping everybody out, it

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Speaker 1: scares everybody. And then you have the governments telling everybody

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Speaker 1: that they need to be afraid of it. And you

549
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: know there's this like wit hunting against all these people

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Speaker 1: for not doing everything the government says. When if we

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Speaker 1: ever lived in a society where everybody does exactly what

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Speaker 1: the government says, it's fucking crazy. Yeah, it is crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because even there's some people close in

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Speaker 2: my life that I was just.

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Speaker 1: Like, all right, guy, you're going a little bit overboard, Jack,

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00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: but you have to if she's listening right now, no,

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Speaker 1: but you have to understand. But like background, I do

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Speaker 1: understand that, but I'm saying people don't. The people in

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00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: my life that were that were going a little overboard

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00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: are like completely fine now, like are people Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're they're fine. They're they go out and they're like

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Speaker 1: doing things with their kids. They might be like a

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Speaker 1: little bit more cautious if they're sick or something like that,

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00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: but they're they're fine. They're like this.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually surprised we don't hear about this more often.

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00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: But I see, I swear I see it around here.

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00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 2: Like I'm telling you, I see people wearing a mask

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Speaker 2: and you just.

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00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: Like, what are you doing right now, dude?

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00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: Like it's it's insane to me. Like, and especially in

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Speaker 2: the car. The car situation is the is the the

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Speaker 2: craziest part of it. If you're by yourself in your

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Speaker 2: own vehicle. I mean, that is just not how air

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00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: was well. But like, I genuinely think that people got

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Speaker 2: so scared that that they like can't get out of it.

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Speaker 2: And I do understand that because, like I said, like

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Speaker 2: people don't understand it. And there's people that.

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Speaker 1: Have already were prone to being what you would call

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Speaker 1: like a germaphobe to begin with, and this just like

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Speaker 1: threw them over the edge kind of. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you could find out about this family,

583
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: like were they completely normal before this happened and they

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Speaker 1: got so freaked out. But now it's like their kids

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Speaker 1: are actually being more hurt than they would be if

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Speaker 1: they were in public. Listen. I think they're using it

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00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: as an excuse to shield abusing the kids, because if

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Speaker 1: you were just scared they were gonna get sick, why

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Speaker 1: are they living in a filthy like they could get

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Speaker 1: sick from living in a filthy house and being that

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Speaker 1: according to oh yeah, there was CC's all over the house.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the COVID thing is like this

593
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: blanketed excuse, like we were afraid to send them outside. No,

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Speaker 1: you probably had abusive tendencies before that, and you're using

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Speaker 1: it as an excuse. It's not like they went in

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Speaker 1: this house and these children weren't allowed outside, but they're

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Speaker 1: perfectly clean and the house is clean and everything like that.

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00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: Like this just seems like a really shitty family that

599
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Speaker 1: used this as an excuse to abuse their children.

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Speaker 2: Well, so I guess when the cops took the kids

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Speaker 2: out of the house, they were like, go in the

602
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Speaker 2: garden right now and just wait here. And apparently one

603
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 2: of the kids saw us now and like went they said,

604
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Speaker 2: went crazy and freaked out.

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Speaker 1: So now these kids that have not been out of

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Speaker 1: their house for more than half of their life right

607
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Speaker 1: in living in this situation, are now in a juvenile

608
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Speaker 1: center because their parents are both in prison.

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Speaker 2: It's just so it's so terrible. They're going to need

610
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Speaker 2: like major rehab to just be able to I mean,

611
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: they haven't even associated with any people now. The interesting thing, though,

612
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: is is that they did mention in the article that

613
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: these children weren't malnourished. They were eating, they were being fed.

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Speaker 1: It was like they weren't malnourished, but they were filthy

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Speaker 1: for living.

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Speaker 2: And I understand that, but it's just it's just it's

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Speaker 2: I think it's like a little bit of a different case,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just curious, like what the investigation is going

619
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: to show, Like was was the mom like doing school

620
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: with them at home? And like like I don't know,

621
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: Like I like it, not you Why would you say

622
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: not though?

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Speaker 1: You don't know? Like because if people have you listen,

624
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: I loved your children enough to homeschool them, you wouldn't

625
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: be letting them sleep around demon as dolls and living

626
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: in rooms of shit all over it.

627
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Speaker 2: I understand that, but I'm just saying, like, if they

628
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: were truly mental over this, then like they they didn't

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00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: say any of that in the article. It's not like

630
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: they were starving them and tying them up and all

631
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Speaker 2: this stuff. Like it just didn't say any of that.

632
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: That's like typically what you see in abuse situation.

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Speaker 1: I just don't buy it. There's plenty of agoraphobic people

634
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: that don't live in absolute, hoarded, filthy mess houses. Well,

635
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people. No, you do, though, there's plenty

636
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: of people that do, but it's not every case. So

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Speaker 1: I just called bullshit on this. I think it's ridiculous.

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00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: All right. So last year, this six year old went

639
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 1: missing in South Africa and now her mother and two

640
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: others have been convicted after they allegedly sold her to

641
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: a local healer that wanted the child's eyes and skin.

642
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: What did they so, she said she wanted the child

643
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Speaker 1: for her eyes and skin. Were they actually going to

644
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: like cut out her eyes and skin or did they

645
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: just think that? You know how, in some cultures, like

646
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: they think that people that are born a little bit

647
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: different have like these magical powers. Like we talked about

648
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: a case once in the gross room of a child

649
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: that was born with a parasitic twin that had extra

650
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: limbs and they were considered to be like some kind

651
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: of a god, right because they were born in this

652
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: special kind of a way. And it could it be

653
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: like that because this kid, this kid's like really cute.

654
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Actually it's I hate seeing pictures of kids that get her.

655
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: And she's a very She's like a beautiful little girl

656
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: that's got this like really pretty like light brown skin

657
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: color with these bright blue eyes. And I could see

658
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: that she doesn't look like everybody else that lives there,

659
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, or like a majority of people,

660
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: So she might be like a coveted like special child

661
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: to some people or whatever in this culture. I don't know,

662
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: I really like, is it like some legit like they

663
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: were gonna like cut her eyes and skin out to

664
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: do some like thing. I don't know. But like the kids,

665
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: the kid's missing still, so why are they calling it

666
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: a kidnapping the kids? Like the kid's probably dead, Like

667
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: where is she? Well, That's what I'm saying. We don't

668
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: really know the purpose of this, and we don't really

669
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: know for a fact if this kid went to this

670
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: quote unquote healer because a neighbor had testified that the

671
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: mother said she was potentially can considering selling her to

672
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: the healer and then suggested it had been done, and

673
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: then offered money to people that she talked about it

674
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: with for their silence. But the child has been missing

675
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: since February of twenty twenty four. They don't know where

676
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: she is at all. They have questioned this healer but

677
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: said there's a total lack of evidence that this person's

678
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: even involved, so we don't know this for effect. But

679
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: according to the mother, that's what she said to a neighbor.

680
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: But a teacher had also asked about this child, and

681
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: the mother said she was quote on a ship inside

682
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: a container and they were on the way to West Africa.

683
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: Would that not trigger like an alarm in your brain?

684
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: I don't know.

685
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 2: It's funny that we always hear about these stories about

686
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: neighbors getting interviewed and people saying like the most outrageous

687
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 2: shit to people.

688
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: I just can't imagine, like me and my neighbors talk

689
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: about like plants and like people leaving their abandoned car

690
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 1: up front of one of our houses and like stuff

691
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: like that, like we're not talking about like I just

692
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: can't imagine somebody being like, oh, hey, I haven't seen

693
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: your son for a while Oh, yeah, he's like on

694
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: a ship inside of a container somewhere, you'd be like, okay, well, sometimes,

695
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about that couple in Utah, I

696
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: guess where the guy said like something, made a joke

697
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: about his wife poisoning them, and then she like actually

698
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: did and wrote a children's book about dead dad. We

699
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 1: did a high profile. That's a section on that too.

700
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: What I forget what, I don't remember their names, but

701
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: I think sometimes people just say really crazy shit and

702
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: you just assume they're joking because it's so outrageous, and

703
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: then these things come up later and you're like, oh

704
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: my god, I can't even believe that. Well, part of

705
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: this one one of the really cool parts of the

706
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: gross Room.

707
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: I don't even know if you notice this, but when

708
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: we posted the the Lori Vallu high profile that's a

709
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: section yesterday, one of the people in the gross Room

710
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: said that she used to work with Tammy Davel.

711
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it happened like it.

712
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: Happens like in the grosser room, Like people are like like, oh, yeah,

713
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: I went to school with that person or this or that,

714
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: and you're like, wait a second, what, Like I could

715
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: talk to somebody that's like close to this case, because

716
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: that's outrageous to me, Like imagine knowing somebody involved in some.

717
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: Of these high profile cases. It's nuts. Let's move on

718
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: to this new research that's revealing that using marijuana during

719
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: pregnancy is linked to many problems. I mean, did we

720
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 1: not know this beforehand? No, because it's natural and there's

721
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with weed, and it doesn't hurt anybody. Isn't

722
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: a lot of medication from plants.

723
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say this out loud right now that

724
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: one of the worst things that has ever been done

725
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: in the history of the United States in the past

726
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: twenty years. And you could list lots of things, I

727
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: would say one of the biggest things that we're going

728
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: to look back and say was the most terrible mistake

729
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: was legalizing marijuana.

730
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: I really believe that, like that it's not okay, Karen,

731
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: because I've been saying this from the beginning that because

732
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: the way people's minds work is that people say, oh,

733
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: if the government says it's safe.

734
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: Then it's not bad. And then you've noticed since it's

735
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: been legal that you smell it everywhere everyone's using it.

736
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: It's just like it's been this study confirms that it's

737
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: double pregnant. People are using it double now than they

738
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 2: were before. All of it is because of the government

739
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: saying it's okay, So like bullshit.

740
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: Because it's thehol and cigarettes are legal to purchase too,

741
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: and people still, yeah, the harmful effects of them, so

742
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: you woant to call me a morodd people fucking drink

743
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: alcohol and spokes cigarettes when they're pregnant, fully knowing they

744
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: cause problems for decades and decades and decades. So obviously, yeah,

745
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: any type of my point, that's my point.

746
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: If they weren't legal, people wouldn't be buying them at

747
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: the level they know.

748
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: They wouldn't absolutely not. Hello, during prohibition, everybody was still

749
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: buying alcohol.

750
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: Not like not on the level that they do now,

751
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: and it wouldn't be the way it is now.

752
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm guarantee you there's a there is analystic place I

753
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: am not. I am not. I guess what, like, you're

754
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna look at this and smoke weed. Don't buy it

755
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: at a dispensary because it's so expensive and they still

756
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: getting it.

757
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter, the legality of it makes it okay. And

758
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 2: that's why you smell it all the time because people

759
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: are doing it everywhere.

760
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: Now it just is it's.

761
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: Like, oh, before you'd be like, oh, well, I can't

762
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: smoke walking up the street, and I can't smoke in

763
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: my car because if I get pulled over, I'm gonna

764
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: like lose my license and ship. Now no, you just

765
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: do it because you're not gonna get in trouble anymore.

766
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: And that's that's what the problem is. It's because there's

767
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: something that when people in America are told that the

768
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: government says it's okay, and this could go as far

769
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 2: as the FDA and drugs and everything else, that it's safe,

770
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: that there's some kind of thing that's like it's not

771
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: that bad. And when you tell people that marijuana used

772
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: has has skyrocketed since it's been.

773
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: Legalized, ever said weed was okay for pregnancy, No, you're

774
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: talking about people say that it's a plant. People say

775
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: that it's a yeah, but most pharmaceuticals and opiates are

776
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: also plants, So like that's idiotic. Nobody's like out there

777
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: saying we'd say for pregnancy. People falsely assume it is,

778
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: but they're idiots and uneducated about it. And that's why.

779
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: It's because people think that it's okay because the government

780
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: legalizes it.

781
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm telling you if that's what you want to think

782
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: of it, but it is.

783
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: And when you watch this in fifty years, you're gonna

784
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: think I'm a genius, So don't I mean, okay, you

785
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: don't have to now, but you will when you see it,

786
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: because it's the same exact thing with the government saying

787
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: that it's okay to drink alcohol and everything else, and

788
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: the drinking and driving is out of control. Alcoholisms out

789
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: of control, cigarettes are out of control. All of it's

790
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: out of control.

791
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: Anyway, So this neat new research that was done.

792
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: So basically, like any medical professional that knows anything is saying, like,

793
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: whatever you think about marijuana, like throw it out the window.

794
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: Whatever studies that have been done over the course of

795
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 2: however many years back in the eighties and the nineties, Like,

796
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: none of that shit matters anymore, because we're dealing with

797
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: a whole new marijuana with a higher potency and genetically modified.

798
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 2: It's just not the same exact drug as it was

799
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: when other studies were done. So we don't even know

800
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: the long term effects of it because we haven't been

801
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: studying enough. And this so now we've talked about on

802
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: this program already this year with multiple different things coming

803
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 2: out that it increases your risk of stroke by forty

804
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: two percent, it increases your risk of a heart attack

805
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: by twenty five percent. It's been linked to cardiac arrhythmias, myocarditis.

806
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: People that use it have long lasting mental disorders including depressions,

807
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: social anxieties, schizophrenia, self harm, and death, all of these

808
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: things that were not a thing until now. Right, So

809
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: now it's all coming out. It's the same exact thing

810
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: that's going to happen with ozebic when you when you

811
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: think about like, this is this thing that's awesome, it's

812
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: this natural thing.

813
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: We're going to use it all the time, and now

814
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: all of a.

815
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: Sudden, it's like it's like ozempics and miracle drug and

816
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: then just give it a couple years and that shit's

817
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: going to be like off the market.

818
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: Probably it's that terrible for you. So okay, let's go

819
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: back to this.

820
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: So Jama Pediatrics analyzed fifty one different recent studies that

821
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: have to do with marijuana over twenty one million people

822
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: over the course of all of those studies, So that's

823
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: this is a huge study over the course of a

824
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: lot of people, and it shows that participants of marijuana

825
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: use during pregnancy was linked to listen to these staggering statistics,

826
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: fifty two percent higher risk of pre term delivery before

827
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: thirty seven weeks, seventy five percent higher risk of a

828
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 2: low birth weight which is less than five point five

829
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: pounds at delivery, and one So only six of the

830
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: studies of those that were studied showed cannabis use and death.

831
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: And of those studies, they found that there was a

832
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: twenty nine percent high risk of infant death associated with

833
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: the use of marijuana during pregnancy. Okay, that that is

834
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: Like these numbers are huge, huge, huge and big big

835
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: groups of study twenty one million.

836
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, but I don't personally find

837
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: this information shocking, is what I'm getting it. Like, of course,

838
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: when you do a recreational drug when you're pregnant, it's

839
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: going to be harmful to your child, like obviously, but

840
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: it's legal now, so it's it's not as harmful. Your

841
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: argument about the legals, like cahol is legal and it

842
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: is harmful to babies, sigarette is cigarettes are legal and

843
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: they're harmful to babies. Weed is legal babies. So since

844
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen.

845
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: Marijuana use has doubled in pregnant women alone, and it

846
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: is more than double. It's other, it's it's more than

847
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: doubled in everyone else. It's it's exacerbated since it's become legal.

848
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: So if you don't see the correlation between the legality

849
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: of it and the increase in use, then like I

850
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you, okay, because that that's

851
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 2: the turning point when you want to say the turning

852
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 2: point of something like when did school shootings increase?

853
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: Like, okay, it was the Internet.

854
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were school shootings before the Internet, But when

855
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: did they get crazier because of the Internet. Yeah, people

856
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: spoke the legality, But now, when did it start doubling

857
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 2: and increasing significantly?

858
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: Is when it became legal, that's all. And also only

859
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: have these numbers because it's legal, and more people are

860
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: admitting to do it because they can't get in trouble

861
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: for it anymore. So we don't know if these numbers

862
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: are accurate, because they're accurate. Listen, Listen, I don't give

863
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: a shit about any of the numbers actually, because like

864
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm a human that goes outside and sees with my

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Speaker 1: own eyes and smells with my own nose. I see

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Speaker 1: what's happening. But if you can say ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: if I smoked weed when I was a teenager, I

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Speaker 1: would have said, no, I don't, and I did. Guess what,

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Speaker 1: that fucked up the study. So like, ok the numbers

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Speaker 1: are high, but they've been high. So like, no, we

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Speaker 1: need to translating. You're you're so ridiculous. Yes, you you

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Speaker 1: actually think that the numbers of marijuana use aren't higher. Now, like,

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Speaker 1: do you live in society and go outside. I just

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Speaker 1: said they're higher. I just said, but they have always

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Speaker 1: been high. It's not like the people literally they have

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Speaker 1: literally never been anywhere near where they're at right now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but you're acting like nobody in the world smoked weed

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Speaker 1: until they made it. No I didn't. I just said

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Speaker 1: that it had significantly increased since it got legal. I

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Speaker 1: said that, Okay five times. Let's wrap this up because

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is, obviously it's dangerous to smoke or

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Speaker 1: use any marijuana products like it is with any other

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Speaker 1: recreational drug and most pharmaceuticals when you're pregnant. So you

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Speaker 1: need to do your own research and not expect that

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Speaker 1: the government is telling you something is safe. Like, that's

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Speaker 1: idiotic to just believe that at face value because something

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Speaker 1: is legal but it's safe. It's idiotic.

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Speaker 2: But it's the psychology of people. Okay, just trust me,

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Speaker 2: Like I'm telling you right now, if they said tomorrow

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Speaker 2: that heroin was legal, I guarantee you that the numbers

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Speaker 2: would double. I'm telling you right now. I don't think

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Speaker 2: anybody doing heroin is worried about it. If it's legal or

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Speaker 2: not they want. I'm telling you, though, if the government

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Speaker 2: says that it's considered to be a recreational drug that's safe,

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Speaker 2: more people will start using it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, sure, but at the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 1: still your responsibility to know it's safe to put in you.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's everybody's responsibility. But I'm just putting it

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