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Speaker 1: we have a busy show today. At twelve oh five

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Speaker 1: we have Seth Emerson, who covers the Georgia Bulldogs for

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Speaker 1: the Athletic, will come on and talk about some of

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Speaker 1: the prospects out of Georgia. Yeah, and then at then

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Speaker 1: all right, pro days they've been going on in fury.

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Speaker 1: We've heard about. Oh these quarterbacks, they're lighting up their

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Speaker 1: pro days. This is great. Well, let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: If these guys can't throw overs air, you've got problems. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are high level college quarterbacks. The

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Speaker 1: reason I didn't make a big deal about the Kyler

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Speaker 1: I expected Dwayne ask Us to be good on this

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Speaker 1: on this pro day. These things are not surprises, nor

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Speaker 1: should they be. And that's all I have to say

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Speaker 1: about that. You're throwing to your teammates clearly, you know, hell,

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Speaker 1: you're throwing too. You're not wearing helmets, you're not wearing pads.

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Speaker 1: If you can't excel in that environment, John, then I

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Speaker 1: don't know what else to tell you. I think that

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Speaker 1: to grab new pieces of information. If you well know,

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Speaker 1: so you got a pro day. Oh it's something new,

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Speaker 1: let's over analyze it. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: it's the entire resume combin mind, most specifically what they

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Speaker 1: did during the collegiate season and gave this other stuff

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Speaker 1: is complementary pieces. All it should do is it should

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Speaker 1: support what you already think of the player. It should

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Speaker 1: not hurt the player. That's essentially how I look at

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Speaker 1: pro days, combine and so forth to one four five,

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Speaker 1: Georgia will get them on the line right now and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Georgia football, but we'll have some of

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Speaker 1: these guys to not just review the pro days focus.

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Speaker 1: That's on what these interviews before. It's it's to review

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Speaker 1: what the prospects are because a lot of times the

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Speaker 1: local guys will have a better perspective on some of

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Speaker 1: college interviews. Well, the one thing I will say, as

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Speaker 1: Georgia class, John doesn't seem to be finally underwhelming, right Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as deep and as dynamic is what we've seen in

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Speaker 1: when you think about Georgia, you think about the Obama classes,

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Speaker 1: to our guest at Seth Emerson. He joined this last year.

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Speaker 1: He gave his great information on the Georgia Bulldogs. Now

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Speaker 1: he'll do so again this year. He's with the athletics.

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Speaker 1: Seth he got johnsch Melkin Lance Medal here and he's Rutherford,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey. Thanks for being with us again. This year

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Speaker 1: has everything going, It's going well down here in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Excellent and Lance and I were just talking about it. Um,

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Speaker 1: they're just a bunch of on their classmen and the pipeline.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna blow this program. I've been a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: That kind of happened gradually. It kind of happened to

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Speaker 1: is when he was a freshman, he and Jacobison came

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Speaker 1: in together to Georgia's freshman they just had that you know,

431
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: they had that just connection, mental connection. I can remember

432
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: some plays where you know, Easan would just be looking

433
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: and waiting for not to get open, and they seem

434
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: to be of one line. Easan goes down and another

435
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,160
Speaker 1: freshman quarterback comes in. Jake From doesn't have that same

436
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: connection with Nada, so you see his numbers go down

437
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: as a sophomore, then they go back up as junior.

438
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Speaker 1: When From is a sophomore, second year as a starter

439
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: and maybe has a little bit better report thought him

440
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Speaker 1: with Joe Seth Emerson covers Georgia for the Athletic. I

441
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Speaker 1: want to do one more quick fill up on Riley Ridley,

442
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 1: and then we'll kind of rapid fire the rest of

443
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: the prospects with you here, Seth. You know, even before

444
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: the combine and his numbers came up, people worried about

445
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: his speed and his ability to separate. I know, just

446
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: like his brother, he's a tremendous route runner. Did you

447
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: see him able to get consistent separate Shian in Georgia,

448
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 1: whether it was on on intermedia routes or even on

449
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: deeper routes down the field. Could he get that separation

450
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: which is really at that size what NFL town eval

451
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: waders are looking for, not watching that closely in terms

452
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: of jamming and separation. Um, but I think so. I

453
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: mean he he has. He's one of those guys with

454
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Speaker 1: deceiving height, as in he seems like he's taller than

455
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Speaker 1: he really is. He on the field, he looks like

456
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Speaker 1: he's a six ft three, you know, going back to

457
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 1: Michael Irvan type and whatever, and and Calvin Ridley plays

458
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 1: the same way. You think he's taller than you just

459
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: kind of look at the the roster AND's like, oh,

460
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: it's not that tall technically. And part of that is

461
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 1: when you're able to be more physical as a players,

462
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Speaker 1: and it would seem you would be for your height.

463
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Speaker 1: And so I think that is a credit. So Riley,

464
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Speaker 1: I didn't hear many concerns about his his physicality. Uh,

465
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Speaker 1: he was not one of the main blockers as a receiver. Um,

466
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Speaker 1: but that was possibly because they were using other guys

467
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Speaker 1: to block and get helped. Riley really get when you

468
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: look at the remaining prospects on the list. One name

469
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 1: that I think is interesting just because he's been labeled

470
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: Seth as a tweener and also had some off the

471
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: field issues early in his career is Jonathan Ledbetter, who's

472
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 1: labeled right now as a defense event. Where do you

473
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: see his upside and his best fit position wise at

474
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: the next level. He's he's a he's a d lineman. Uh,

475
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: he's he occasionally worked with the edge guys, but he's

476
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 1: he's too big to to, you know, start with his

477
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: hands off the ground. UM. Character wise, I wouldn't have

478
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: any worries about that. All that stuff happened a while ago. UM.

479
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: I think it's been pretty open with it. It was

480
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: it was clearly just a you know, he had an

481
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: alcohol problem and a substance problem, and he was sent

482
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Speaker 1: to treatment and got through it, and the last two

483
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: years was really one of the leaders of this team,

484
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: one of the guys that Kirby Smart relied on to

485
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: go out and talk to media, uh, go talk to

486
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: players and everything. So you shouldn't worry about that. UM.

487
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a I don't know if he's an

488
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: inside defensive lineman. I probably not big enough for that. UM. Outside.

489
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: I think he could play there a little bit. Yeah,

490
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's amid the late round guy,

491
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: but um, good character kid and and somebody that you

492
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: could you could count on for, you know, a few

493
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: snaps if if you really needed them. We're joined by

494
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Speaker 1: Seth Emerson covers Georgia for the athletics. Seth, I want

495
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Speaker 1: to jump over to another one of the players here

496
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 1: that could go in the mid rounds, and that's Lamont Guilliard,

497
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: who's played center right, played a little guard. Seems like

498
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: a good versatile offensive lineman. You don't hear his name

499
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot when you talk about the offensive line class

500
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: and in this year's draft. What's an NFL teams expect

501
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: from him? Yeah, I mean in terms of versatility that

502
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: started from the beginning. He signed with Georgia the defensive

503
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: lineman and played here for about a year and a

504
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Speaker 1: half as a defensive lineman and then switched to the

505
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: old line. And you think, and all right, well, that

506
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: usually is the kiss of death for his career. He's

507
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: gonna be transferred pretty soon. Instead, it stuck. He ended

508
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: up being a starter as a red shirt sophomore at guard,

509
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: moved to center and was the center on the the

510
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl National championship team, and then last year was

511
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: the center again. And you know, it just kind of

512
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: one of those guys that quietly does his job. And

513
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: I talked to some scouts and some antelists who watched

514
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: film and said this guy was criminally underrated. Uh. They

515
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: went from early in two thousand seventeen thinking that their

516
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: interior line was going to be a weakness and a

517
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: big problem to that not being that much of a

518
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: problem they were. I mean, look, they have a lot

519
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 1: of talent on that offensive line right now, but the

520
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: last two years with Lamont Galliard at center, they had

521
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: to one thousand yard rushers each and then four separate

522
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: people rushed for a thousand yards over the last two years.

523
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: Some of that credit goes to Lanton guy, right. And

524
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: the other thing is I'm sitting here as someone who

525
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: has covered George and saw David Andrews go undrafted, and

526
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: now you got two rings with the Patriots. So if

527
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: David Andrews could do it, and I, frankly I kind

528
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: of thought he could, but I wasn't convinced. Um, But

529
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: if he could do it, Gyr can too well. And

530
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: you brought up the rushing attack. And yes, it's always

531
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Speaker 1: nice when you have Nick Chubb and Sony Michelle to

532
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: lean on if you're Georgia. So those two guys move

533
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: on to the NFL, and Elijah holly Field moves up

534
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: the depth chart, the son of a Vander Hollyfield, the

535
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: notable boxer. I've read that many people don't look at

536
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: him as somebody that could be a workhorse at the

537
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: next level. More so is a backup, maybe a first down,

538
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: second down back. Hasn't been utilized as a receiver. To

539
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Speaker 1: where do you see him fitting in if a team

540
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Speaker 1: wanted to take a flyer on him and work him

541
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Speaker 1: into the rotation in the backfield. Yeah, I think I

542
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: see him. And yeah, considering he's played here with Chubb

543
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: and Michelle and DeAndre Swift, who we're gonna be talking

544
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: about next year as a first round pick, it's tough to,

545
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, for holy Field to shine compared to those guys.

546
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: But I see him as somebody that if I were

547
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: an NFL GM, I'd be content to go into a

548
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: season with as my number two or number three running back,

549
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: and if something happened to the first guy, you just

550
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: roll out there with holy Field and say, all right,

551
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: let's see what you can do. I mean, he was

552
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: a fourth star recruit. He was, he is a good player.

553
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: He wasn't, you know, given a scholarship here just because

554
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 1: of his daddy's name. Um, they weren't gonna do that.

555
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: He he was. I remembers the true freshman looking at

556
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: him and seeing, man, this guy's chiseled, just just chiseled.

557
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: And and I thought to his credit before his junior

558
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: year when we had really seen him much, because it

559
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: has all been Michelle Chubb at Swift and all. He

560
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: feels about to move into a bigger role entering last year,

561
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: and I thought, like, this is more of a between

562
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: the tackles guy, and then Swift will be the outside

563
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: the tackles guy instead. When they were able to give

564
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: the ball to holy Field on the outside, uh, he

565
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: could do it. He had some breakaways, he could get

566
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: to the edges. So he showed that speed too. So

567
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: I I think he's got some I think he's got

568
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: some upside too, especially a guy that you know, he

569
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: doesn't also have a lot of tread on those tires

570
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: because he didn't play much as a freshman and sophomore.

571
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: So maybe battle help him a little bit in the

572
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: eyes of some people. All Right. Finally, Seth and with

573
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: Joan by Seth Emerson covers Georgia for the Athletic. Three

574
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: more guys on our list here that could get drafted,

575
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: uh Natrez Patrick the inside linebacker, Terry Godwin and Nick

576
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 1: Moore the long snapper obviously the long snapper. Usually those

577
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: guys are undrafted free agent. You can get them after

578
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: the draft is over. Patrick or Godwin, er these guys

579
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: drafted all players, How do you think draft night is

580
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna go for them? And and and give us a

581
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: quick thumbnail on both those guys. Yeah. On Patrick, he

582
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: he was not invited to the combine. Uh, he was

583
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: a guy. He might have been a little bit surprised

584
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,479
Speaker 1: he wasn't. But he went from as a freshman, they

585
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: were about to play Georgia Tech and they had an

586
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: inside linebacker starter get suspended and the next guy up

587
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: was the Tread's Patrick rather than Rokuan Smith. So that's

588
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: how good he was as a freshman, That's how highly

589
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: regarded he was. And then Rokuan went on to be

590
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: what he was and the Treads just kind of you know,

591
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: he ran into a lot of off field problems. UM,

592
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: just several marijuana incidents and arrests. And you know, I

593
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: mean it's it's marijuana. It's what it is. It's not

594
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's not a career ender by any means.

595
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: He just couldn't stop doing it. Um. He went in

596
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: treatment last year, Uh, missed the playoff run, um, and

597
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: then was there the whole year. This year. They were

598
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: able to count on him, but he still wasn't a

599
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: full time starter by this point. So yeah, I mean, well,

600
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: whether he'll get drafted or not, not sure. Um, he's

601
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: definitely in that six seventh round possibly undrafted area. And

602
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: the other one is Terry Godwin, who actually finished this

603
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: his career as George's eleventh leading receiver of all time, UM,

604
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: at least in receiving yards. He was their second leading

605
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: receiver as a freshman, sophomore, junior, and then as a

606
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: senior ended up. I think fifth are sick and receiving

607
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: because the guys like Ridley and Hardman and now it

608
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: takes bigger roles. Um. But Godwin had some huge catches.

609
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: He had this hugely athletic catch at Notre Dame, basically

610
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: game winning cash. I think it wasn't the third quarter

611
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: Um for a touchdown. And he can make plays. I

612
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: mean he's a slot guy. Uh, and he can maybe

613
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: return some punts. He did that here and we've done

614
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: it more. If Hardman wasn't around, UM, you know, yeah,

615
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's somebody you could see being out of

616
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: the league pretty quickly. He's also somebody you could see

617
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: if in the right situation, Um could actually surprisingly stick

618
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: around a while because of what he showed here in

619
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: terms of that that speed and that catching ability. Seth's

620
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: good stuff. Man. We really appreciate the time. We look

621
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Speaker 1: forward to having you on next year and we'll talk

622
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Speaker 1: about Mr Swift as a potential first round and anybody

623
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: else coming out of that excellent program down there in Georgia.

624
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: We appreciate it and we'll talk to you soon. All right. Yeah,

625
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Seth. Thank you. And remember we had

626
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: Seth on last year. He told about Lorenzo Carter ended

627
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: up being here. So it's a really, really really good

628
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: football school. And the funny thing about it, Lance at

629
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: these guys and they're good players and they did well

630
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: in college. Georgia players had issues at the Combine this year,

631
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: which usually you don't think for an SEC program. But

632
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: Riley rid Ridley didn't perform as well as a lot

633
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: of people thought he would. Um we mentioned Nada did

634
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: not tight End perform as well as people thought he would.

635
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 1: So it was one of those years. And then DeAndre

636
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: Walker wasn't there, So it was one of those years

637
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: with Usually for those SEC schools, they shine when it

638
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: comes to you know, the combine and stuff like that.

639
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: Didn't happen with Georgia players this year. Well. But I

640
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that Seth brought up when we

641
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: were talking about DeAndre Baker off the top, that he

642
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: could maybe not be a guy that jumps off the

643
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Speaker 1: page to your point with the measurements, but can wind

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Speaker 1: up carving out like a ten year NFL career only

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Speaker 1: a three star recruits. So because he'll get the set

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Speaker 1: in then the third contract, where were some of these

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Speaker 1: other guys who could just jump right out of the

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Speaker 1: arena or the stadium. Teams go so googly eyed over

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Speaker 1: them that they draft them high, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden they play out that rookie contract and they

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Speaker 1: don't warrant this second deal. So you know, that's another

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Speaker 1: way to look at a prospect whether or not you're

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Speaker 1: finding that glue guy, which to me is the term

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Speaker 1: that I thought of when he described Terry Godwin, the

655
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Speaker 1: wide receiver at the end versus maybe the flashy guy

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Speaker 1: like Hardman who's got the upside because of the special

657
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Speaker 1: teams playing. Who knows, for all we know, Godwin could

658
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Speaker 1: carve out along a career than Hardman. When it's all said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Baker and Ridley are similar to me, and that neither

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Speaker 1: guy wowed from a performance perspective in terms of their

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Speaker 1: physical stats at the combine and all the runs and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. But both of them proved to be

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Speaker 1: very very good football players. All right, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: It's all present to do by Corps Light two O

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Speaker 1: us off. Hello, Bill, Hey, how are you doing. I

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Speaker 1: did some digging into Gentleman's to draft history of his

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Speaker 1: first three rounds, and I pulled out some pretty interesting stuff.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you want to hear a lot of

671
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Speaker 1: guys up front, But what do you got for us? Bill? Okay,

672
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Speaker 1: so only twice in the first three rounds, did get

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Speaker 1: them and draft the player who was not noted as

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Speaker 1: a above average athletically, going back to two, how would

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Speaker 1: you rate them as above average? I thought, I went

676
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Speaker 1: I went through all their pre draft scouting reports, so

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Speaker 1: every like they all had above average athletes, some above

678
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Speaker 1: average well, Bill, honestly though, I mean I think you

679
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Speaker 1: go around the NFL, I don't think many people pick

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Speaker 1: below average athletes in the first two rounds of the draft,

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Speaker 1: you know, totally. I mean that you're just talking about Baker,

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Speaker 1: I thought would be interesting. Appreciate of the time they're

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Speaker 1: above average height. The only time he doesn't pick above

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Speaker 1: average height is for interior alignment, and seventy of the

685
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Speaker 1: time they're above average weight outside of edge and running back. So, like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's interesting. You can really see a trend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's sort of what they say about him, right,

688
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Speaker 1: Like he likes the like the well. Shaq Thompson is

689
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Speaker 1: a guy that comes to mind when he was in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was a freak athlete. You know. St.

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00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley certainly is a freak athlete. Christian McCaffrey, I

692
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: would say, is also a really good athlete. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that, I think, yeah, yeah, Star Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: I mean all of those I think fall in line

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Speaker 1: with that. But you know, as John was mentioning, I

696
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Speaker 1: think he's certainly emphasized the trenches, but he's he's he's

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00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: emphasized the defensive side of the trench is much more

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Speaker 1: so early in the draft than the offensive lineman. Because

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Speaker 1: Trade Turner, who is one of to me his best

700
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Speaker 1: finds on the offensive line, was a third round pick,

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Speaker 1: and then you could argue Andrew Norwell who was an

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Speaker 1: undrafted player, so he has it. The trend has not

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Speaker 1: been to necessarily go after an offensive lineman very early

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Speaker 1: in the draft. If anything, that's been more of the

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Speaker 1: tal end of the second. In the third round last year,

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Speaker 1: he did pick the top of the second. Did yes, No,

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Speaker 1: that that that's a fair point, But I'm I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at more so his Carolina days. It was really defensive

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Speaker 1: lineman early, much more so than Offen. And of course

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Speaker 1: we have to look at what offensive lineman were avail

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Speaker 1: and there actually were a couple of great years for tackles.

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Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. He's never drafted a tackle

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Speaker 1: or a center in the top three rounds. Well, Taylor Molten.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people projected him as a guard, but

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Speaker 1: he did play tackle at Western Michigan. That sounds right,

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Speaker 1: Western Michigan, and he is and he is starting a

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Speaker 1: tackle for Carolina now. And he was a second round pick,

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Speaker 1: so that that's the only one that you could kind

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Speaker 1: of say maybe he was a tackle, right, Thank you Bill,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. And you know he did pick wide receivers

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Speaker 1: twice early and d J. Moore obviously wasn't there for that.

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Speaker 1: But Curtis Samuel was the second round pick who was

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Speaker 1: kind of like a slash, you know, player did a

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Speaker 1: little running back stuff that was not traditional. But the

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Speaker 1: funny thing, very different type of player than the other

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Speaker 1: wide receiver he picked in the second round, Devin Funchius,

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Speaker 1: who was a big, slower, physical guy. So he has

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Speaker 1: picked two very different types of wide sivers in round two. Well,

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Speaker 1: and then Kelvin Benjamin, who he took the year before punches,

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Speaker 1: so he went two straight years when he went after

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Speaker 1: the taller type of wide. He was the first round pick. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Benjamin was the first round pick, and we know how

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Speaker 1: that panned out. He's been moved around and so forth

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Speaker 1: throughout the NFL. So now you could argue Carolina was

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Speaker 1: also moving away from Steve Smith at that time. It

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Speaker 1: was a little bit more of a need. Not saying

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Speaker 1: that it's not a need now, but does that become

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Speaker 1: a priority to go after a taller wide receiver that

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Speaker 1: early in the draft. I don't know. I think that

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Speaker 1: you could probably find more value in a defensive line

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Speaker 1: pass rusher. I would think of this year's drive. I

742
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Speaker 1: was just talking history. He has been willing to willing

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Speaker 1: to pull the trigger on a wide receiver early and

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Speaker 1: Lens your line. We'll try to have on the show.

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Speaker 1: The next couple of weeks. He tried to come out

746
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Speaker 1: of the combine. He just had too much going on. Um.

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Speaker 1: He does a lot of those great scattering reporach to

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Speaker 1: fund on the NFL Draft tracker, and he came out

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Speaker 1: of his mind draft this when he had dk Metcalf

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Speaker 1: going to the Giants at six, which I would be

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Speaker 1: surprised by myself. Let's go to Joe in Pennsylvania. He's

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Speaker 1: up next. What's up, Joe? Uh? Just watching? You're in

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Speaker 1: here in the draft there the Giants to meet a

754
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Speaker 1: big need and everybody is are you on speakerphone? Joe

755
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: can you get me. Now you sound better there. I'm

756
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: just saying, the Giants biggest needs here in the draft,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think is Ed Drusher and if we

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Speaker 1: want to go for that quarterback, it just seems to me.

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Speaker 1: And I did see Haskin here. I did watch his

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Speaker 1: pro day. The guy he really has great size, and

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Speaker 1: you know, they were showing him, you know, moving in

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Speaker 1: the pocket and he can make all the throws and

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Speaker 1: that and that. The analysts spoke afterwards and they were

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Speaker 1: comparing him his size and mobility like the Steve McNair

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Speaker 1: or to even Ben and Rott w Spurger. I don't

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Speaker 1: think in the pocket, I don't think he moves as

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Speaker 1: well as Steve McNair did. To me, he's a very

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Speaker 1: similar play to Josh Rosen last year. I think both

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Speaker 1: those guys are very very very similar. Well however, whatever,

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Speaker 1: but he's twenty one and they say he has a

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Speaker 1: great up tide. You know, I don't think that's crazy

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Speaker 1: to say, absolutely, Okay, but I'm just looking at being

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Speaker 1: the Giants here if we want him, And they were saying, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe his pro day is gonna push other like teams

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Speaker 1: like Washington or the Dolphins. They go up and get them.

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Speaker 1: I think teams already know what they're gonna get out

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Speaker 1: of Haskins. They may be gonna want to speak to

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Speaker 1: him via an interview and have him in for a

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Speaker 1: private world trade up for him, but it's not because

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Speaker 1: of how his pro It's not going to be because

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Speaker 1: him throwing through air at the pro day job. Okay,

782
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: but this is the way my looking at it, like

783
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Speaker 1: if I'm the Giants, am I wrong doing this here

784
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: saying Okay, we like Haskins, we want edge rush or

785
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: defense too. Is it? Is it better if they go

786
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Speaker 1: up above us and did instead of us going up

787
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Speaker 1: and worrying about going reaching for him or giving up

788
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Speaker 1: draft picks for him and going higher, stay where or

789
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Speaker 1: if nobody goes up after him, they uh find him,

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00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: we take them. But if not, if we like them.

791
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: But but if they go ahead of us, good, then

792
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: then that brings more defensive players for us in our

793
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: hand up quality player? Am I wrong in that thinking? Joe?

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Speaker 1: Look honestly, and and and thanks for the call. I

795
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: appreciate one of the things. I'm very happy they shut

796
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Speaker 1: signed Cody lad and back. Yes, nobody imagine to me

797
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: when he's out in the field. He making all the

798
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Speaker 1: all the plays, one of hand plays and uh Paul

799
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: and everybody keeps talking about them back shoulder throws. I

800
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: think if they work with him, I see no no

801
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: reason he can't do that. So fair enough. Well, I mean, unfortunately,

802
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: just wasn't healthy your majority of the season. And thanks

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00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: for the phone calls. Him and Benny Fowler both back

804
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: in the mix. Indeed, and both guys have a track

805
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: record with Ty Tolbert, the wide receiver's coach, because they

806
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: were in Denver with him. Look, the Giants have so

807
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: many needs lands I would be unless you're talking moving

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00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: from around four to round three because you're trying to

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Speaker 1: find a quality player that has kind of slipped through

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00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: the cracks a little bit first and second round. Even

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Speaker 1: with their a third round pick that they owned from

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, which is ninety fifth overall, I would not

813
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Speaker 1: move up, make your pink your pick, or trade back. Um,

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Speaker 1: they have too many needs. And then I understand no

815
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Speaker 1: one understands more than I do how important quarterback is.

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Speaker 1: I've been advocating it for a couple of years now,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think Haskins is the level of a

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00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: player that you would go and move your seventeenth overall

819
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Speaker 1: pick to move up a couple of spots to get him.

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Speaker 1: I I personally would not do that. Well. I think

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Speaker 1: in Joe's ladder situation, if the Giants stay at six

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Speaker 1: and then he's on the board at that time, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's something to think about without having to move. I'm

824
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Speaker 1: not saying you should give up assets if he's there,

825
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: something to think about, but yeah, I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Giants should be so quick to say, let's package seventeen

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Speaker 1: and six to make a massive move, knowing you can

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Speaker 1: get two very good players at six and seventeen on

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Speaker 1: top of what you already games. Remember, the whole point

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Speaker 1: of parting ways with Oudell Beckham is to gain more

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Speaker 1: resources so that you can bring in players to feel

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Speaker 1: multi of both voids across the board and not necessarily

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Speaker 1: just have one prolific player on your eye. I feel

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Speaker 1: good or I feel okay about picking Haskins if he's

835
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Speaker 1: there at Sex, I don't feel great about it. You know,

836
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Speaker 1: It's not like if you know Sam Donaldson there at Sex,

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Speaker 1: I go sprint to the podium, or picking Mayfield and

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Speaker 1: I handed in. I don't feel the same way about

839
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Speaker 1: Haskins Murray, I think I'd probably feel better about it.

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Speaker 1: I would think, well, to me, again, I just don't

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00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: think these guys are And I was having this conversation

842
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: off air or somebody this morning and just talking about it.

843
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: Then I think every year, the top quarterbacks in the

844
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: class all get talked about the same, regardless of how

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00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: maybe they rank overall, like not every top quarterbacks Andrew Luck,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I think sometimes they

847
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: get it gets conflated by people like that sometimes, you know.

848
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Speaker 1: That's why the big question then, I think for most

849
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Speaker 1: executives is if these guys were in a different class,

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00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: where would you put them? Right? You have to ask

851
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: that question because you may have access to picking the

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00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: best quarterback of this year's class, John, but you then

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00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: have to provide additional context. If he's still fifth or

854
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: sixth on the list compared to other recent classes, are

855
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: you really maximizing the value of your draft pick or

856
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: you're just basically settling and saying, oh, we're gonna walk

857
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: away with the best quarterback in this year's class. Doesn't

858
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: mean that he has the same upside as previous number

859
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: one rated quarterbacks in other years. So that's an important

860
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: dialogue and conversation to have. All I'm saying is is

861
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: that if you don't have to move and he's still

862
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: on the board, it's something to think about. That's what

863
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: I believe that I think the Giants should at least

864
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: have dialogue conversation, Hey, how do we all feel? Are

865
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: we all on board? And if you're not, and you're

866
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: not animated about the quarterbacks, then you take the next

867
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: closest sure thing, and you could certainly point to a

868
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: variety of other positions Seeah for example. And this is

869
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: kind of how I'll explain it the way I kind

870
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: of look at it right now. If I'm sitting there

871
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: at six, and this is probably unrealistic because a lot

872
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: of weird things would have to happen, But if Haskins

873
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: is there, but also one of Josh Allen, Quinnin Williams

874
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: or Nick Bosa is there, I would take one of

875
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: the three elite defensive players instead of Haskins if it

876
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: If it's Haskins, though for Montez Sweat and Brian Burns

877
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: and Joan Taylor, then I would be okay with Haskins

878
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: because I think, and this is what Dave Gettman said

879
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: at the combine how the quarterbacks are priority and a

880
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: quarterback automatically gets a little bit of a boost, right

881
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: because of positional value. But you know Bosa Haskins, Williams Haskins, right,

882
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: but sweat Haskins maybe Sweats a little bit higher graded.

883
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: But I think they're so close that the position value

884
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: gives you the elevation, you know what I mean, And

885
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I look at it. Yeah, and

886
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean Bosa and Williams. You bring them into the mix,

887
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: you can certainly argue that that's going to fill a

888
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: need and it's going to be a player that would

889
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: come in day one and I think have an immediate

890
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: impact on this franchise. So that'd be very hard to

891
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: pass up on. I don't think Boss is going to

892
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: be there, but I know it was hypothetical, and I

893
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: would say I'd be surprised if Williams is there too,

894
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. So the only reason I

895
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: think Williams could be there is a sometimes defensive tackles

896
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: drop that's fair, and people overvalue the edge rusher as

897
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: opposed to the inside pass. Yeah, I just think he's

898
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: a unique tackle. No argument for me, Dude, I know

899
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't have to sell you on it, so you know, Yes,

900
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: you're right. I think edge Rusher gets valued over nose Tackle,

901
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: but I think he's not your typical space eater. And

902
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: just watch and see everybody else, Like, would you be

903
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: blown away shocked if montes Swick got picked before Quintin Williams. No,

904
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 1: I would not be blown away shocked neither. And I

905
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: think he's got upside connected to him too. I actually

906
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: liked you ad a lot. I'm not saying that I

907
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: would value him over, but I could see a team

908
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: saying the same thing, especially the way for more the combine.

909
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: He has, the numbers, he has the production. Now. I

910
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: don't know about serial, about the report about medical condition,

911
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: I can't speak to that, um, but yeah, I mean, look,

912
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: letter Williams dropped, You're supposed to be the top overall pick.

913
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: Did Yet's got them six fifth that year whatever it was,

914
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: So you never know withinside guys. But again, I was

915
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: just going at a very unlikely hypothetical. Daniel in Colorado

916
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: is up next. He wants to get to the conversation

917
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: on the QBS. What's up, Daniel, Hello, Shadow, you're doing

918
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: Daniel how are you doing good? Hey, guys, I don't

919
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: know that i'll get the call in again for a

920
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: little while, so hopefully I can squeeze in a little

921
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: bit here. Um, you know, for first UF, you know,

922
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm kind of hoping that we load up on D

923
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: and worry a little less about the quarterback. But that's

924
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, everybody knows that we need to

925
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: eventually get a replacement for Eli. But but then again,

926
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, we're you know, all teams are looking for

927
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: replacement for the quarterback, even if they've got a good quarterback.

928
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, Eli kind of has been

929
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: the scapegoat and gets you know, some bad press and

930
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But but that aside, um, I kind of

931
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about the quarterback situation a little bit.

932
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: I should be talking more about the DUP D. But

933
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: I keep hearing that the next year's class is going

934
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: to be a better class of quarterbacks. That's what they say.

935
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: But who knows, I mean, you know who knows. But

936
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys have any insight? I mean,

937
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: I've heard a couple of names, you know, justin Herbert

938
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: and I can't remember the other guy from You're supposed

939
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: to be a stud. But yeah, you're from from Georgia

940
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: and Tolova from Alabama. Yep, that's that's him. And so

941
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean that, I mean, that's just two guys. I mean,

942
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: does that really necessarily justify saying, hey, this class is

943
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: better than next year's class or so on and so forth.

944
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't mean to Dan. You don't know

945
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: when you're gonna pick. You know what if the Giants

946
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: picking a fourteenth next year, and then it's hard to

947
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: go up to get the guy that you like, or

948
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: maybe the guy that you really like that you want,

949
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: the team that's picking first also wants him, then you

950
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: can't get him at all. So it's hard to keep

951
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: waiting because you simply don't know if you're gonna be

952
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: able to get the guy. That's why if you like somebody,

953
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: even if he's not like your peak guy, perfect guy,

954
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: you know you almost have to take him, as you

955
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: just don't know when you're gonna get the chance at

956
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: the perfect guy. Like teams, I'm sure there's a team

957
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: out there with a GM thinking I really want Trevor Lawrence, Man,

958
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: I really want Trevor Lawrence. Well, guess what one team

959
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: is going to have the chance to draft Trevor Lawrence

960
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: and who knows if that's gonna be you Yeah, you don't.

961
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: You know. The other thing too, is in order to

962
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, unless you unless you're the you know, the

963
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: past Cleveland Browns wherever year you play for the draft,

964
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: um and you you know, end up with the number

965
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: one pick or three picks in the top five or

966
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: ten or whatever they end up getting. Every you know,

967
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 1: it seems like every year you have to have draft

968
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: stock to move up, you know. And it's not like

969
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: we have a lot of draft stock. This year we

970
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: got a little bit, but we got it, you know

971
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: with the trade. You know, yeah, I mean Daniel. Look,

972
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: they have Daniel, they have They have twelve picks this year,

973
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: so the Giants have plenty of draft picks. But in

974
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: my opinion, like you said, if you don't pick a

975
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: quarterback this year, I think you should trade down with

976
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: one or both of your first round picks and acquire

977
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: extra draft half the capital for next year so you

978
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: can go and get the player you want exactly. And

979
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: so that you know, that kind of brings me to

980
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: the other you know, the other question I have, um

981
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: is about you know, the potential of trading for Josh Rosen.

982
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: I know that's kind of we don't even know that

983
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: he's technically really on the trading block, you know, but

984
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's intriguing. I mean, it's certainly intriguing. I

985
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: don't know that we would give up our you know,

986
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: number six or seventeen for him. I mean maybe maybe

987
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: maybe seventeen, Daniel, but certainly not six. Yeah, I I

988
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: tend to agree with that, you know. Um, I'm you know,

989
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that I love Josh Rosen, but

990
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: I think he would be, you know, certainly a good

991
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: quarterback to have on the roster, to you know, to

992
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: build behind knee lie um this Um, Like I said,

993
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: I have Rosen and Haskins really really close to each other.

994
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: To me, they're in the same category. If I could

995
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: get Dwayne Haskins at seventeen this year, I run to

996
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: the podium as fast as I possibly can. So by definition,

997
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: then shouldn't I also be willing to trade that pick

998
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: for Rosen if I had to? Yeah? Yeah, I suppose

999
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I suppose I I guess

1000
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: I can see that, And guys, I'm gonna I'm splurt

1001
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: here and ask for one more question here, um um,

1002
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: when evaluating quarterbacks, you know, I mean, everybody's got their own,

1003
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, the decision on what they want to do

1004
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: as far as evaluating a quarterback. Um, I want to

1005
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: go back in time and ask, you know what the

1006
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: Giants were looking at when they picked David Brown compared

1007
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: to you know, what we see in quarterbacks that we've

1008
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: been evaluating for the last let's say, last draft, last

1009
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: draft class, in this draft class. What did we see

1010
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: in Dave Brown that that attracted us to him that

1011
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: we might be seeing in somebody like I don't know

1012
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: that Haskins or Drew Lock for example, or somebody else

1013
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: that's out there. Well and well, Daniel, I'm not trying

1014
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: to be funny, but the man who made that decision

1015
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: to draft Dave Brown isn't with us anymore. George Young

1016
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: passed away, and he's the guy that made that call

1017
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: and made that decision, and he famously operated very independently

1018
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: of the coaching staffs and kind of picked who we wanted,

1019
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: and the coaches didn't have much saying it, which is

1020
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: why him and Bill Parcel's kind of class so much.

1021
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: A lot of the time, So I don't know if

1022
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: we're ever gonna know the answer to that question, unfortunately. Well,

1023
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: the other thing that's important to note is Dave Brown

1024
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: was the number one pick in the supplemental draft too,

1025
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: so he wasn't in the actual draft. It was a

1026
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: supplemental draft, and I don't think that should be lost

1027
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: in the conversation. It's one thing if you had the

1028
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: first overall pick in the draft and you used him,

1029
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: I think that's a better question. Supplemental draft, you see

1030
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: teams maybe take a few more risks because they think

1031
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: that the player, if they go into the real draft class,

1032
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be available and so forth. So you know,

1033
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 1: I think that that's a different conversation. That's just my

1034
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: perspective supplemental picks versus regular picks. But yeah, it's an

1035
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: inexact science. I think that's the one thing we learned

1036
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: from all of these quarterbacks. There's a high rate of

1037
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: unsuccessful quarterbacks that have been taken. Then we always focus

1038
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: on the teams that hit. There's a lot of guys

1039
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: that missed, and that's more of a reason why you

1040
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: shouldn't just take a quarterback for the sake of taking

1041
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: for example, Marcus Mariana, Jamis Winston were picked one and two.

1042
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: Are either of those guys hits? And Dan Daniel thanks

1043
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: a lot for the call. We appreciate it. I mean,

1044
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: I I can't qualify them that way. I think the

1045
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: jury is still out. In my opinion, I would have

1046
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: called him mrs. But I wouldn't call them hits. I mean,

1047
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: we've got to see what Bruce arians does with Winston.

1048
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: Can he salvage the situation? And Mario has just been

1049
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: hurt hard time staying on the field. So now that

1050
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 1: they acquire Ryan Tannehill, I'm not saying that Mario should

1051
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: be concer earned, but that's a sign, Hey, they're bringing

1052
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: in somebody else because they're worried you're not gonna hold up.

1053
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: So to me, the jury is still out with the

1054
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: two of them. I don't think it's necessarily a horrendous pick,

1055
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: but I don't think either those teams feel, hey, we've

1056
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: got our guy for the next ten years. It is

1057
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: in Jamacus Russell. No, it's not JaMarcus, but it's also

1058
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: not Andrew Luck correct somewhere Carson Wentz that in the

1059
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: land of in between, I would say there's a good

1060
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: way to this. Yeah, but they haven't had the year.

1061
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: They haven't had a year like Wednesday, haven't had a

1062
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: year like golf. You're like Luck, You're like Cam Newton,

1063
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: who was the top pick in the draft. So you know,

1064
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: year to year, it's different. It really is different. I

1065
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: really would like to get some clearance on exactly what

1066
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are going to do. Well, I don't think

1067
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: you're ever going to get clarity unless they make a

1068
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: trade tomorrow, well before the draft. Well, if they trade,

1069
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen will know. Well, that's why I said, if

1070
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: they make the trade, then you're gonna know. But I

1071
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 1: don't think Arizona is going to do that because, if anything,

1072
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: you want to continue to play the game of leverage,

1073
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: so well to hold onto them a week before the yeah,

1074
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: I would think as close to the draft as possible,

1075
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: they truly know, and they're said, after they have all

1076
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: their conversations, they're they're gonna take Murray. Then I would say,

1077
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: you train them a week before the draft and you

1078
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: see what you can get and continue to have conversations

1079
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: because what's the rush. From their perspective, They've got the

1080
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: number one pick, there's no clock. They know They're not

1081
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: gonna lose grasp of that pick, so they could always

1082
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: trade Josh Rose in a few days before the draft.

1083
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me, Sean. And California is up next.

1084
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: He hello, Sean, Hey, what's up? John? What's up? Mast?

1085
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: What's up? I just want to say, Man, you guys

1086
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: keep me going this offseason. I may not call every day,

1087
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: but man, I shouldn't listen. And don't you do all

1088
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: the Giants fans and sometimes I last so much with

1089
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: so some of the things they say is just it's

1090
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: awesome that we have this. Um, you guys give us

1091
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: this opportunity to voice our opinions and the guys on

1092
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: their opinions, and UM, I just want to point a

1093
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: few things out there here. I'm gonna stay a bit

1094
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: of my receivers a fast and then I'll go to

1095
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Stefan did Stefan DA one five pick one

1096
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: forty six tyree Kill abound five pick one. The only

1097
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: the only reason Tyreekill went Sean Sean, Sean. The only

1098
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: reason tyree Kill went around five, is Lanches pointed out,

1099
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: was because of the off the field stuff, which now

1100
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: apparently starting to show up again. According to the report,

1101
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: So don't don't don't put him in that same category,

1102
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: but digs for sure. Okay, okay, um, now that those

1103
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: are like you know how much? How much? Ten? Honey too?

1104
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: If not one out of ten times, you're gonna hit

1105
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: with those kind of players in around five. Of course,

1106
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: the reason why I bought that up is her team.

1107
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: But there I think he's so underrated. I watched these highlights.

1108
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: I was watching some of I tried to watch some

1109
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: things rather than we look at the street highlights. I

1110
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: want to know, like what the bad at, So I

1111
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: try to dig up some things like you know, how

1112
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: he gets off the line and stuff like that. But

1113
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: I honestly think like the team button that's six ft six,

1114
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: they're just fit in all you know with golden to

1115
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: eight and starting Separd. Well, I'll get what you guys

1116
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: fell about that, But um, I want to because you

1117
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: guys something I don't know if it will actually work,

1118
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: if if you can do that. But David get him in,

1119
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: um says. He keeps on saying he has a plan.

1120
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: And don't believe me. I'm not staying up at night

1121
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: trying to put some taks on my white board and

1122
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: trying to figure out like, okay, but you know his

1123
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: plan seems to be centered along that quarterback position. You

1124
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: know they took I'm not gonna buy into the hype

1125
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: of them taking a quarterback out to Jenna. You know,

1126
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: they probably take a lot of people out to dinner

1127
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks last. You know, what if they were what

1128
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: if they really love doing Haskins And what if his

1129
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: plan is, Okay, we're gonna wait till six. If the

1130
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: rain Haskins is not there at six, we're just gonna

1131
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: move on. We're gonna take a defense attack or edgebusher

1132
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: or maybe an offensive lineman, a really good one. And

1133
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: then if Arizona takes josh Um takes, Murray calls him

1134
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: up then say if they want to trade, like can't,

1135
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: can't we just wait out there, I'll pick six, like,

1136
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: wait to see if we get Haskins, and then his

1137
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: Askins is off the board, make a quarta I was done,

1138
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: and say like, hey, I want to give you my seventeen,

1139
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: and assuming that it's still on their team at that time. Yeah,

1140
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: but Sean, at that point, as Lantia said, Rosen might

1141
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: have been traded already back. You just don't know if

1142
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 1: Rosen's still gonna be on the rock. Yeah, you just

1143
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 1: don't know. And also we we don't We just don't

1144
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: know if this is all just a big misconfusion from

1145
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: Arizona and they really love Nick Posta, so it's all

1146
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: speculations to speculate. But you know, there's anything that could

1147
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: happen in this stuff, then I just wanted to kind

1148
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: of give you this scenario, and um, I thank you

1149
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: guys responding and and and it's true, we don't know

1150
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Josh Rosen, you know, and Miami

1151
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: and Tampa could jump, and and who knows Haskins. H

1152
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: Haskins might be taken before we seen shocking things in

1153
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: the draft before, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,

1154
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: I don't wat that out. And thank you guys for

1155
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: taking my call. I appreciate it. Thank you for listening.

1156
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: For listeners like you, we wouldn't have a show, so

1157
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: we appreciate. And there's also a scenario where maybe there's

1158
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: a team john like Kansas City who thought they were

1159
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: going to move up to get Patrick Mahomes. Maybe there's

1160
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: a team trying to make a move and they feel

1161
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: Rosen's got value. He's still on a rookie contract, which

1162
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 1: is similar to Jabril Peppers value. You have remaining years

1163
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: on the contract. It doesn't put stress on your cap

1164
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: and you're saying to yourself, hey, well groom him. He

1165
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: could be the backup. He'll learn from our veteran and

1166
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: then maybe in two years we make the transition. I

1167
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: think a team could be in play from that. For example,

1168
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: the Steelers are clearly going through a transition period. No

1169
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: more lavy On Bell, no more Antonio Brown. They have

1170
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: young skill position guys around Ben Roethlisberger. Now, whether it's

1171
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: Juju Smith, Schuster or the other guys in their roster.

1172
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: James Connor is young, uh Rogers, the other Chess Chester Rogers,

1173
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: Eli Rogers, thank you Chester Right, than's just been the Vikings.

1174
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: But they have young wide receivers around Ben Roethlisterer. Maybe

1175
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: they want to get the next guy in there. Maybe

1176
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: that's what they want to do. You know, their backup

1177
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: is the kid from Tennessee right now, like the Hobbs right, Dobbs,

1178
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: Dobbs stops, thank you, Josh dot and engineer of some sort.

1179
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah he is an engineer, but I don't know, don't

1180
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they think he's the future. So

1181
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: maybe they want the next guy in the Maybe the

1182
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: Chargers want the next guy in there. Maybe the Patriots

1183
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: want to replace Jimmy Garoppolo. England is a fair one too.

1184
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: That's why I said everybody in the same thing on Yeah, John,

1185
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: everybody's focusing on a team that's got a dire need

1186
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: for a quarterback. But what happened with Patrick Mahomes should

1187
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: not be overlooked. A team that you don't think is

1188
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 1: maybe going to be aggressive, is thinking down the road

1189
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: a little bit. So you bring up a good point.

1190
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh New England. I think are two teams that I

1191
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: would watch. It makes sense if they want to aggressively

1192
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: make a move to try to get a successor in

1193
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: play final call the show. It's all barket to you

1194
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: by Corps Light, Download the cores Light Awards, apt to

1195
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: an Amazing Giants Prizes. Is Scott in New Mexico? He's

1196
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: up next? What's up? Scott? My guys? How you doing today? Guy?

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00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Uh? First, before I get to

1198
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: my main question, you were talking about Montes Sweat in

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00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: the medical issue. He has a heart condition, so how

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00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: do they evaluate situations like that, Because it's not a

1201
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: soft tissue, and that will be a team Scott that

1202
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: that is that is a team the team deal. Each

1203
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: team will make a decision based on what the condition

1204
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: is and whether or not they think they can play

1205
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: with it. Some teams will have him on their board,

1206
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: some teams will have him off their board. I have

1207
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: no idea what the giants think about it. And it

1208
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: all depends on the severity too, because at least a

1209
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: quin to the report, it's similar to the condition that

1210
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: that marie's Hurst had last year and he ended up

1211
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: dropping all the way around five. Some people thought he

1212
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't get drafted at all, but now Sweat still being

1213
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: talked about as a top ten or top twelve guy.

1214
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,959
Speaker 1: That's why when we always talk about the draft process

1215
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: and me, Paul and Lance are always very careful about this.

1216
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: We could talk about what the guys do on the field,

1217
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: we could talk about what our reporters tell us about

1218
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: the kid. We don't know a lot about the off

1219
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: the field stuff. We don't know a lot about the

1220
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: medical stuff. And this is the decisions each individual team

1221
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: will make. There is no uniform protocol around the league.

1222
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: Each team makes their own decision, and I don't know

1223
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: what the Giants evaluation will be of that condition. It's

1224
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: no different. I'm not comparing various issues. But Jalen Smith,

1225
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: who was drafted by the Cowboys, you know, he had

1226
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: a very serious leg injury, and the Cowboys doctor happened

1227
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: to be the individual that was performing some of the surgery.

1228
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: So Dallas had a little bit more intel, you can argue,

1229
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: and maybe that was why Scott they were willing to

1230
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: take a risk. But it's no different the conversation that's

1231
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: gonna happen with Sweat. And even even with that, I mean, yeah,

1232
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: the doctor did the surgery. No one knows how a

1233
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: nerve is going. Of course, it's all based on potential inspectation.

1234
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: Whether you're the doctor that hasn't in with the player

1235
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: or not, you you're guessing game is not necessarily ten

1236
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: times better than the doctor who had no association. Doctors

1237
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: could predict how injuries and conditions would heal. Our medical

1238
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: profession in this country would be a lot different. Let

1239
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: me put it that way, Okay, right, Uh. My main

1240
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: question is is basically about the quarterbacks, because I still

1241
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: think the Giants need to take one. I looked at

1242
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 1: all three pro days Haskin sum Marie, and I also

1243
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: looked to Drew Lock yesterday and he was very impressive.

1244
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: I know you saw that. The senior boy I think

1245
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: he was there probably has the best arm of any

1246
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 1: quarterback in this class, except for maybe Tyree Jackson. So

1247
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: is there a scenario where if the two quarterbacks are

1248
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: gone and there's clihood that's going to happen and Haskins

1249
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: is not available at six I assume Murray is going

1250
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: to be taken by Arizona. Is there a scenario that

1251
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: you see, either of you that would allow the Giants

1252
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: to get Drew Lock a little bit earlier? And is

1253
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: he worth the potentiality? Because if they're using that Kansas

1254
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: City famous Kansas City model, wouldn't keep the ideal candidate

1255
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: to actually perform under Eli Manning for a year. And

1256
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: I would not take I would not take him six

1257
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: Scott under any circumstance. Seventeen. I would think about it.

1258
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 1: He would be in my conversation. I can't tell you

1259
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: whether or not I pick him or not right now.

1260
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: I think it's reasonable to think that he'd still be

1261
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: there when the Giants pick seventeen. I'd be surprised. Reasonable.

1262
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any guarantee. No, there's no guarantee,

1263
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 1: but as it stands right now, I would be surprised

1264
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: because you know, if Drew lock goes, we're talking about

1265
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: maybe the potential for like four quarterbacks to have been

1266
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: taken off the board depends on what people think of

1267
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones versus Drew Locke Wills another one who all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden is now skyrocketing up people's rankings too,

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Speaker 1: based on you know, what do and what they had

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Speaker 1: for lunch. There was one thing though, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss, who does the morning show a Bob Pop

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Speaker 1: on Sirius, and he loved Baker last year. Baker was

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Speaker 1: his number one quarterback. He loves Will Greer. He thinks

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be a really, really good NFL player. Well,

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Speaker 1: not that this is a fair opinion, because the guy

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Speaker 1: who I interviewed was his coach last year. But I

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Speaker 1: had Jake Spavitol on my show on Sirius XM, who

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Speaker 1: obviously was the offensive coordinated for West Virginia, and I

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Speaker 1: asked him miss it wasn't what he thought of his

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Speaker 1: upside it was the fact that I found it interesting. John,

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Speaker 1: we were talking about all these quarterbacks. Nobody brought up

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Speaker 1: Will Career a few weeks ago. He was always the

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Speaker 1: Murray's and the Haskins. Then you jumped to the Jones

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Speaker 1: in the Lock and Greer was in the Senior Bowl too,

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Speaker 1: But Greer's name didn't get brought up. And West Virginia's offense,

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01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: love it or hate it, was ridiculous. I mean, those

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Speaker 1: teams put up points in the blink of an eye.

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Speaker 1: I know people say the Big twelve has no defense,

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Speaker 1: this and that, but Greer has a lot more experience

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Speaker 1: than some of these other guys, and nobody talked about him.

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Speaker 1: So that's a name that I would not quickly dismiss

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Speaker 1: and jump strictly to Lock and Jones. I think Greer

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Speaker 1: is also worth having the conversation. Okay, my last point,

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Speaker 1: get off the air. I was curious about a wide

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01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 1: receiver out of South Caroline and I think he was

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Speaker 1: also at the Senior Boy he's a good player, and

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Speaker 1: he was he was very impressive. I just wanting to

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Speaker 1: get your overall opinion of them and have a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, you two. Scott appreciated UH Day two receiver.

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Speaker 1: He can play inside, he can play outside. Frankly, he's

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Speaker 1: very similar to the guys that Giants have on their

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Speaker 1: roster right now. If you want to draft a guy

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Speaker 1: that's a lot like Starling Shepherd and Golden Date, go

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01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: draft Deebo Samuel. He's a good player though, good player, yeah,

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01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: I agree. I I like his upside. I think he's

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Speaker 1: a crafty wide receiver. I like a lot of those

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01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: guys that I think are gonna go in the later

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01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: rounds too. It's it's a good mid round receiver class,

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, like and Andy Isabella is another guy, and

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01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: Kola mentioned that, Kim Butler, I think he's an intriguing guy.

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01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 1: Nikkill Harry if you want to speak guy McCole Harman.

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: We talked about him today. Riley Ridley again more of

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01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: a position, you know, uh, possession type of guy. So

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01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: you know there are and there's a lot of different

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01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: types of wide receivers too. You have Hunter Renfroze, another

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01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: guy that people wise a lot of experience. He's he's

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01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: a Clemson guy. Will have a guy found cut that

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: covers Clemson next week as well as a house stay

1319
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: by the way makes sure you stay tuned to that.

1320
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of receivers in those middle rounds

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01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: that that could be intriguing to teams that are looking

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01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: for different types of players too well. And if the

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01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: Giants are looking to add some depths, I mean, we

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: talked about Cody Lattimer and Benny Fowler back in the mix,

1325
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: and you have Golden Tate and Sterling Shepherd. But you know,

1326
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: maybe they don't have to reach if they're still looking

1327
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: to add another young wide receiver John because based on

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01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, could have a quality player in

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Speaker 1: the third of the fourth round and maybe somebody just

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01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: falls right into the lap of the Giants. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that votes very well. Sad that that's not

1332
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: even a good picture as to why I idified it

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01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: better than that. But by the way, and I'll say

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01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: this too, and this last year make dance On won't happy.

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01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: You know who I'm getting very high on in this

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01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: receiver class, and I told them this will with the

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01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: senior bolt too. And the more I've seen, the more

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01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: I like. I think Terry mclauren is gonna be a

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01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: really really good NFL receiver, really really good. I think

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01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be. And he's from Ohio State, which is

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01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: that's why I was waiting for you to make that

1342
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: clear to the audience. Now I think I would. I know,

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01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: I know Paris Campbell is a really good player at

1344
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: his Hampshire and the other day, but I feel I'm

1345
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: not sure about you know, Campbell is a down the

1346
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: field receiver. He didn't do that as much at Ohio State.

1347
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,919
Speaker 1: I like what he showed it at the combine doing

1348
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: that stuff. But what does Terry mclauren do poorly? He's fast,

1349
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: he's a great special team or he runs excellent routes.

1350
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't see why this guy is not going to

1351
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: be a starting quality wide receiver at one, two or

1352
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: three take your pick in the National Football League. If

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01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: the Giants can get him on Day two and he's

1354
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: a great but we are n't talked by the way,

1355
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: really really good kid. If the Giants could get him,

1356
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, with that late third round pick, early fourth

1357
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: round pick, where do I sign? But I'll take him. Well,

1358
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: that's why we talked so much about the depth on

1359
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: the defensive line. This also, I think is a draft

1360
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: where there's some quality depth at wide receiver. Which once

1361
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: again I think falls right into a lap of perhaps

1362
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: a need depth position of need for the Giants. So

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01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: that bodes very well. Speaking of Ohio State, I don't

1364
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: think they're gonna beat Iowa State later today, And just

1365
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 1: thought that we mentioned that with Dan in the mix.

1366
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: So college basketball you should have heard when I asked

1367
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: them like two months ago. But I don't really follow

1368
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: college basket till we get towards the end and I

1369
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: start worrying about who's going through the NBA. And that's

1370
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: I watched the tourment based on watching NBA prospects. That's

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01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: what I do. And hopefully we'll see John ran in

1372
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: the Nick uniform next year. Um but um, yeah, probably

1373
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: need to pick fifth because of the Knicks. Um. Well,

1374
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: it won't be any good if he goes there too.

1375
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: That's the other off shot off, I hate you. You're

1376
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: the worst. Um And he was. He was trashing Ohio

1377
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: States basketball team two months ago. He was, oh yeah,

1378
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: one of the worst teams. Yeah, he was not happy

1379
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, well, you know, he's got to give

1380
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 1: a pep talk to Chris Holtman. That's what. Well, they

1381
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: made a little bit of a run and they did

1382
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: and but five thirty eight had them. Is a most

1383
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: likely Cinderella candidate out of that bracket? Well, listen, the

1384
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: big ten's got depth, so you know you can make

1385
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: a case for a few of those teams. Is that

1386
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: I think have fallen into the radar? Perdue? I know

1387
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: Perdue had a good finish, but Perdue doesn't gain a

1388
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: lot of credit. I think they are dangerous teams Recede.

1389
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: So can I ask you a question? And this will

1390
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: be the last thing I ask you before we say goodbye.

1391
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: Odd question? Okay, it's a good way to preface a question.

1392
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 1: It's an odd question other than Michael Jordan's. I need

1393
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: to bring this up. By the way I did up

1394
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: the question question, the question is not about him other

1395
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: than Michael Jordan's. Is the thing you like to talk

1396
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: the most about? Depth? You love? I like teams. I

1397
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: do like teams with that and reliable veterans. Watching your

1398
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: watching your tweets during free agency? You like talking about

1399
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: proven veterans and teams improving their depth. Aside from your

1400
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: Jordan tweets, those are the things that I feel like

1401
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: you tweet about the most. Team and veterans and depth. Well,

1402
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: what teams won in the National Football League, and what

1403
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: teams make the playoffs the ones with proven veterans. I

1404
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: rest my case. You answered the question for me. What

1405
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: else is there to add to it? Okay, I think

1406
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: the proof is in the pudding. As they said, that's

1407
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,439
Speaker 1: all I got. I told you, not a question. Well,

1408
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm not in the business of stating the obvious on Twitter.

1409
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: So if that's what people want me to do in

1410
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: commend signings, that's not what I in fairness and keep.

1411
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: If you keep repeating the same things, you are well,

1412
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: but it's more of I look for the guys that

1413
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 1: fall into the raid, like Jason Varet, like I tweeted

1414
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: about no one loves a nice Vinny Curry signing, like

1415
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: I do, like a video. I will be the first

1416
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: one to a man. I'm not ashamed to say it

1417
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: on a giant show. I like, I think the Eagles

1418
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: model works, and that's why they've had recentcy He is

1419
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: both a proven veteran and so that you know what,

1420
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: that's killing two birds with one stone. See that. That

1421
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: means I could have taken the conversation in both directions there.

1422
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: I'm actually disappointed that I always think I only went

1423
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: with the proven veteran angle with the So shame on

1424
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: me for not addressing ball. Now do you know why

1425
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: I did this? Now, whenever Land sends a tweet now,

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01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna in the back of his head, I will

1427
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: probably be thinking should I tweet about it? Anyway, I'm

1428
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: not gonna be worried about your feedback because you're so stubborn,

1429
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: no one could tell you how to do anything and

1430
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: less than anybody. True. I think that's a good way

1431
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: to sum up the show as well. The only advice

1432
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: Lens takes us the advice for himself. Meet myself and

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01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: I absolutely good team. Our producer Dan Salamone. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week on gizs dot com. Everybody, enjoy your

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Speaker 1: n C double A tournament weekend. We'll see you on Monday,