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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 1: Anthony dor Set, De Montree More and new He scrugs.

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Speaker 3: It's the Dynamic Duo. Dynamic Duo today. Anthony dor Set

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Speaker 3: came to the show today. All right, appreciate you. I'm

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Speaker 3: doing scrugs. Hey man, I'm glad you're here.

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Speaker 4: I hold it down for it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was an excuse abs as far as

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Speaker 3: god de mantre, hey, Demitra has something to do. Churches

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Speaker 3: Church is unavailable. It's okay. We're going to try and

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Speaker 3: uh we're efforting producer extraordinary Chris Bean effort and trying

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Speaker 3: to bring in Isaiah stand by speaking there.

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Speaker 5: Here comes good.

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Speaker 3: You know what we when you need somebody, call a

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Speaker 3: doll said, dog gonna take care of you man, All right,

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Speaker 3: dogs take care We got our man from Washington dog right,

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Speaker 3: no no, no, no, no honorary okay, Washington Husky dog

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Speaker 3: purple and gold.

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Speaker 5: So he you know he wouldn't we protected things colors.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm exact. Let's protected us at the barbecue. Okay,

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Speaker 3: good morning you Textion here, so welcome to players. Brought

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Speaker 3: to you by aristocrat gave me. He said, we appreciate

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Speaker 3: you feeling it. Uh, since you know Church got the

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Speaker 3: danged doing some things.

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Speaker 4: Media room improvements.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's that your house that big,

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Speaker 3: you got a lot of rooms. It's not just you

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Speaker 3: just can't let it might just be something the hallway.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You ever been to Church's house?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeahs So he left his Barry left his wallet this

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Speaker 3: you're living good. You know, that's where we money lead money,

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Speaker 3: so Chris bean producer, and yes it is. And I said, no, well,

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Speaker 3: you know I got to go by that way, so

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Speaker 3: I'll take it on off dropped it over there. And

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Speaker 3: this is the time when Barry had made me the

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Speaker 3: bet that the Cowboys win ten games last year, and

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Speaker 3: I knew it wasn't going that way. Yeah, and so

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't drink. So it's like, you know

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Speaker 3: when I when I hit him up on this dinner,

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Speaker 3: you know, how do I make it hurt? Because there's

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Speaker 3: no alcohol. I pull up there that place, I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: they're like, I look like the state house man.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm going deep.

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Speaker 4: So you change your change your order.

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Speaker 3: So not that I ever expected Barry to cut his

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Speaker 3: own grass.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, pro player, lam you ain't got no

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Speaker 4: lot more, but crack you got more.

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Speaker 3: I'll be in the yard. I was in the yard

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Speaker 3: last yesterday. I mean, I mean, well it's got the

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Speaker 3: little steep on. Ain't no way, ain't no.

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Speaker 7: Go away.

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Speaker 4: You're not.

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Speaker 5: You're taking a lot more yourself and going down here.

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Speaker 4: You're not doing it on the hill looking down at

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Speaker 4: everybody else. That's what he did. Hear like all his

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Speaker 4: all his water running too everybody else's house.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, r Shot Khan took care.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, yeah he deserves Jerry.

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Speaker 3: Jerry set him up. Shot con finished the job, and

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Speaker 3: he went to Jacksonville. Got the bad Guess we'll chap

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Speaker 3: them next week.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: So wherest people out here talking about they wish they

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Speaker 2: was born later the way they give him money out

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Speaker 4: Like I'm telling you crazy, crazy, But what what what

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Speaker 3: You know, it's always gotten better. It's supposed to get better. Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 3: it's supposed to get it's supposed to get better, but

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'll tell you what. Philip Rivers though, he

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Speaker 4: get me hope your boys started stretching. You understand me.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you, all right, if Philip Rivers

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Speaker 2: dudes that got motivated off that one right there.

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Speaker 3: I started stretching. Trust me, hammies, they just gonna have

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Speaker 3: to understand. I got I got a couple of good,

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Speaker 3: good kick afs left. Okay, a couple all right, go ahead,

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Speaker 3: some guys, go ahead, you guys go there. I'll be

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Speaker 3: rooting for you. Yeah, I'll be in my seat rooting

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Speaker 3: for you here. Also a diggy do trade it to

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Speaker 3: out there restructuring contracts for Quinn Williams for Kenny Clark.

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Speaker 5: Always pay attention to who they leave alone.

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Speaker 3: People talked about Terren Steel was like, oh, they restructed,

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Speaker 3: he's here, Malie Cooker instructor, he's here when he left

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Speaker 3: Odiggie Zoo alone, And people say, well, you know what,

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Speaker 3: he could be on the trade block And it happened.

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Speaker 3: So odusa Osa Odiggie Zoo u cla guy going back

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Speaker 3: to California, San Francisco for a third round. And so

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Speaker 3: now the Cowboys are in the third round of the

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Speaker 3: draft now, so they're at number ninety three. Solomon Thomas,

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Speaker 3: another solid local guy. Sally goes to Tennessee and it's

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Speaker 3: the seventh round swap of picks with Tennessee. It's a

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Speaker 3: defense that he knows back with Aaron White, Cotton and

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Speaker 5: He knows those coaches.

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Speaker 3: So the Cowboys defensive line room, which once looked very big,

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Speaker 3: is now reduced too, now reduced by two. So the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys will save seven point five million dollars, but they're

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Speaker 3: gonna take a salad cap hit dead cap hit sixteen

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Speaker 3: million dollars. Also, by all accounts, at least, I believe

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Speaker 3: this gave the Cowboys deal last year. But he signed her.

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Speaker 3: If he had hit free agency, he'd got a lot

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Speaker 3: more with the Cowboys game.

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Speaker 4: How do you think he feel right now?

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Speaker 3: Jean Slater put out there that he was building a house.

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Speaker 3: This is you know, second guy I've seen around here

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Speaker 3: building the house. Next thing you know, you got traded.

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Speaker 3: Look at Doc, this is why, And just for the

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Speaker 3: people at home listening. This is why, and this is

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Speaker 3: the players, so we can say this, yes, this is

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Speaker 3: why guys become selfish when they finally get the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: You're supposed to be selfish, you know, no disrespect to

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Speaker 3: the business, you know, aspect of the game for the organizations,

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Speaker 3: but for the players. You work your entire life to

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Speaker 3: in a position where you can kind of control the

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Speaker 3: why guys don't take discounts, hometown discounts is for this

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Speaker 3: reason because there's been examples that have come before them

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Speaker 4: And I live by the model of I would rather

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Speaker 3: Somebody else's experiences than have to suffer those experiences myself.

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Speaker 3: And I believe that Osa last year his heart got

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Speaker 5: Or at least go to the market.

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Speaker 3: At least go to the market, which we all know

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Speaker 3: probability Dallas was not going to match whatever it was

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Speaker 3: that other teams were most likely going to offer. Him

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Speaker 3: last year, so his heart and his loyalty got in

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Speaker 3: and now I'm sure he's having a little bit of remorse.

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Speaker 4: Nevergard, I'll push back on that.

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Speaker 3: I think he would have got it because he was

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Speaker 3: whatever it was offered, they pretty much. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't know, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 2: hard to say because like I don't know what he

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, like being in this room,

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Speaker 2: I hear so many guys talk about, oh, it's about

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Speaker 2: So like and I've heard both Barry and Demantre say, okay, well,

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Speaker 2: like what you might not make in the contract, you

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Speaker 2: so sometimes like and thinking that you know, maybe that

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Speaker 2: hometown discount for a guy that's from California, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean like and at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: like just like what you said, you know, we work

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Speaker 2: so hard to be able to control the narrative to

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Speaker 2: and the longevity side of it clicks in your head

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Speaker 3: As short as it is up to be, like we're

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Speaker 3: seeing right now. So to speaking to your point there,

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Speaker 3: go back to Lee Collins. Lord Collins told me he's

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Speaker 3: I want to be here. That was his whole thing,

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Speaker 4: That was his thing.

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Speaker 3: Man, I want to be here. And also building a house.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he just said, Hey, this is what I'm Paul park,

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Speaker 3: this is what I want bloom, I'm good versus Hey,

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Speaker 3: I could have get more money, let's say from Jacksonville whoever.

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Speaker 3: So he did it, but now he is off to

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Speaker 3: up guy. Both of those gentlemen are yes, yes, and

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Speaker 2: And this is like to talk to the people outside,

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Speaker 2: like the fans watching. So when you hear about a

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Speaker 2: guy like saying George Pickens's position right now, who has

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Speaker 2: a franchise tag on him for like twenty seven twenty

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Speaker 2: eight million, like you sit back at home, you're like, man,

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Speaker 2: that's a gang of money, and like it's life changing

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Speaker 2: it sheds more light onto how like players have to

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Speaker 2: or that team or the organization they love you so

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Speaker 2: much one day and the next day it could be

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Speaker 2: totally gone.

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Speaker 4: So stay there.

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Speaker 3: Just what you talked about isam bringing back into a

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Speaker 3: conversation we had on the players Lounge last week. Now,

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Speaker 3: let's speak on Brandon Aubrey the kicker. Okay, the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: offered him to make him the highest paid kicker. He

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Speaker 3: and his agent, Todd France was Dak Prescott's agent turned

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Speaker 3: it down. We see the Houston's kicker just set the

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Speaker 3: market on the deals averages six point five, which makes

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Speaker 3: the Houston Kicker the highest paid dude to round and apparently,

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Speaker 3: according to just listening to sources, the Cowboys offered more

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Speaker 3: than the six and a half that Houston Kickers got.

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Speaker 3: Aubrey's trying to not just set the mark. He's trying

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Speaker 3: to shoot, you know, go past itself, do you? How

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Speaker 3: do you see it that way? Considering what we're just

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Speaker 2: So in that situation, if I remember correctly, Aubrey it

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Speaker 2: forth with his agent. Arby said he didn't ask for

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Speaker 2: Because we don't know what it was, but they offered

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Speaker 3: They put a second round tender on Aubrey right now.

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Speaker 3: Und I value Aubrey probably more than most people would.

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Speaker 5: Most teams don't have that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can't say completely got higher

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Speaker 3: me was somebody as money as butter Aubrey. I don't

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Speaker 3: But it's not too far behind some of the premier

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so, and we and we never know, right, So

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Speaker 4: I think that you might get a second round offer.

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Speaker 6: Bro.

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Speaker 4: I had the same argument in here last week.

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Speaker 2: And I know the weapon that he is, especially being

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Speaker 2: this dude's kicking sixty yr field goals. But like the

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Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, I see the value in it.

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Speaker 4: I played with it.

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Speaker 2: I played on a team when they they drafted Sebastia

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Speaker 2: you know, But for some reason, it's just like when

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Speaker 4: He asked for that? Well, like, what like, what is

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Speaker 3: I put, I put this little little bit of extra

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Speaker 3: So you're talking about two first downs and you got points.

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Speaker 3: It is one heck of a weapon. And right with

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Speaker 5: And the guy spoke the record still reportedly making less.

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Speaker 3: So they the cowboys from there, they they legitimately from

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Speaker 3: They made some moves safety. So Jalen Thompson signs a

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Speaker 5: He comes over from Arizona.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys DV coach had him out there, so there

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Speaker 3: Portrayals, I appreciate the contributions, but the new defense requires

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the kid what was his name, Thompson?

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Speaker 2: more free from what he's shown. He could also blitz

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Speaker 2: to as well. It's definitely going to be upgrade to

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Speaker 2: the position right now. And so I'm I'm excited about

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Speaker 2: when I started watching the kid on video.

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Speaker 4: Yeah I was. I was excited about what the possibilities

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Speaker 4: could be with him.

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Speaker 2: And I was also surprised that I that I wasn't

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Speaker 2: already up on him as much as I should have been.

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Speaker 2: But he looks very good, man, he looks really good

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Speaker 2: and just like I said, he can make plays all

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Speaker 2: over the field.

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Speaker 4: And so he's good and run, he's good with the past.

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Speaker 4: And this is what the Cowboys need. They need.

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Speaker 2: They need a multi dimensional player, you know, someone who

453
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Speaker 2: is just not a I'm just a pass I'm that's

454
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Speaker 2: that good at blitz, you know, just being in the box.

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Speaker 2: They need a guy who can actually make plays all

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Speaker 2: over the field. And that's the guy that just signed

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Speaker 2: with Thomas.

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Speaker 3: So your thoughts for socials are former quarterbacks here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean the thing is you know, obviously, Christian

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Speaker 3: Parker comes in here in one of the first things

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Speaker 3: he says that the press conference is we're going to

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Speaker 3: be multiple. And it's one thing to say that you're

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Speaker 3: going to be multiple, it's another thing to back it

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Speaker 3: up with the personnel that actually enables you to be

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Speaker 3: able to be multiple. And I think that that's exactly

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Speaker 3: where you see them heading when you think about them

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Speaker 3: choosing not to bring back Donovan Wilson. As of today,

469
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Speaker 3: it's apparent that Donovan Wilson has one style of play.

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Speaker 3: He can do one thing really well, and that's hit,

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Speaker 3: and that's that wrap up and that's hit. So does

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Speaker 3: that bode well for this new defense? Not based upon

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Speaker 3: what Christian Parker said, this defense is going to be.

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Speaker 3: He is bringing in bodies that are going to embody

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Speaker 3: what it is that he put forward that they want

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Speaker 3: to be, and that is be multiple in their sets.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be a base three four, They're gonna

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Speaker 3: be a mix up for four to three. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: have it. They need a nickel that can go out there.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen that happen yet, so I would imagine

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Speaker 3: that's going to happen through the draft or through one

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Speaker 3: of these other trades or free agencies. So you're gonna

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Speaker 3: see this personnel match exactly what he says their identity

484
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Speaker 3: is going to be. And everybody that he's brought on

485
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Speaker 3: this roster to date since he stepped into the building

486
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Speaker 3: can be just that. Every single person can be multiple,

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Speaker 3: even all the way down to the defensive front. Somebody

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Speaker 3: got the big boy O Tito that came in. He

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Speaker 3: could be the one tech or he could be a

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Speaker 3: five tech. You have versatility there with him. Kenny Clark

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Speaker 3: now and Quinn Williams. Those guys can now all rotate

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Speaker 3: all across the line, so you have the free range

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Speaker 3: there the back end, like we're talking about right now,

494
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Speaker 3: safety slash nickel slash strong safety.

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Speaker 5: He could play all three right, So you can't just

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Speaker 5: go out there.

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Speaker 3: The thing with the NFL now is every week you're

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Speaker 3: gonna face a team that is heavy in one form

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Speaker 3: of a personnel. They're gonna be heavy tight ends right

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Speaker 3: in twelve thirteen are gonna be heavy eleven personnel to

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Speaker 3: some of these guys are gonna be heavy, you know

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Speaker 3: in terms of twenty twos.

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Speaker 4: You never know.

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Speaker 5: So if you can't just base your defense so what's

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Speaker 5: the best way to say it.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know the word right now, But your

507
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Speaker 3: defense has to be able to be versatile based upon

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Speaker 3: the looks because you need them to be fluent, and

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Speaker 3: And if your guys can't do multiple things, then you

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Speaker 3: are literally boxed in and a team.

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Speaker 4: Knows exactly how to attack you week in and week

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Speaker 4: out to beat you.

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Speaker 5: Lash Hitt.

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Speaker 3: It's been ever since my boy DQ and DQ we

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Speaker 3: couldn't stop the run, right, so that.

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Speaker 4: I love what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the fact that we lost two really

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Speaker 3: good players and two really good men out the locker room.

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Speaker 3: I understand the Osa Diggi Zua. I think that the

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Speaker 3: Solomon Thomas that aspect, I think that was a gift.

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Speaker 3: I think that was a gift to to his former coach.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 3: Think that was That was a definitely a not even

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Speaker 3: a double double gift. So I wish we would have

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Speaker 3: been a retained them. But I understand as we look

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Speaker 3: forward towards this defense that they're going to be running.

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Speaker 4: I completely understand it.

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Speaker 3: We got a big fella that can hold down the middle,

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Speaker 3: and we got two big fellas that can rotate on

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Speaker 3: the defensive line. Now my concern is that depth. Also

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Speaker 3: the depth on the back end. Like we're talking about

534
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Speaker 3: who else are they going to get. We talked about

535
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Speaker 3: how they're not going to get any red shirt guys. Well,

536
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Speaker 3: you're either going to get some for sure guys in

537
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Speaker 3: the draft or you're going to have to make some

538
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Speaker 3: other moves and free agency and in trades to acquire

539
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Speaker 3: some guys that could step in and play right now.

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Speaker 4: Because hope is not a strategy.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you to this question about, let's

542
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Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson. Could there be an ability for that to say,

543
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Speaker 3: all right, go play some nickel and then you bring PJ.

544
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Speaker 3: Locke in here with Hooker on the back end. Could

545
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Speaker 3: that be a possible.

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Speaker 4: Definitely be a possible. You're gonna see that.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, like they still got two

548
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Speaker 2: first round draft picks, right, so you could easily see like,

549
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Speaker 2: as long as you got Thomas on the field and

550
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Speaker 2: he can actually like help lead the secondary, you can

551
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Speaker 2: go out there and get a young safety because he

552
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Speaker 2: could come down there and play nickel still and now

553
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Speaker 2: you can have it. You can still go out there

554
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Speaker 2: and get a safety or get another corner. But Thomas

555
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Speaker 2: gives you so much versatility back there right now, like

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Speaker 2: like like Isaiah said, he can play three different positions.

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Speaker 3: So the one safety from Toledo is thought to be

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Speaker 3: a first round guy, Yeah, is he off the board

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Speaker 3: in your mind?

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Speaker 4: No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think that we're gonna I think that the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be very interesting to see exactly where they

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Speaker 3: really load up at position wise, because you think about

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Speaker 3: the three four. You have to be heavy linebacker, right

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Speaker 3: you have to be heavy linebacker and play that. Or

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Speaker 4: Still don't know.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be big guys, fast guys, just versatile and

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Joe Milton was already their backup quarterback and one start

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Speaker 3: obviously throwing the ball in utilizing his legs. I think

661
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: that he's going to put a lot of pressure on

662
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: Joe Milton for that number two spot because what we

663
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: are all, what we all know about Joe Milton is

664
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: He's a great locker room guy, great personality, very athletic,

665
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 3: a lot of potential. That's a word that you hear

666
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: often that everybody, it applies to everybody, every single person

667
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 3: walking this earth, has potential. So you hate to hear

668
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: that word consistently, especially when you're in your what fourth

669
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 3: year in the league. You don't want that that term

670
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: applied to you any longer. So Sam Howe, it doesn't

671
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: just have potential. Sam Howe's probably reached his pinnacle, I

672
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: would imagine, But you know what you're gonna get out

673
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: of him. You're gonna get consistent player, You're gonna get

674
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: a smart play You're gonna get a competitor. I'm you

675
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 3: go and get somebody who's gonna put your players in

676
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: position to make their plays right. You don't need them

677
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 3: to be the playmaker. You need them to get the

678
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: ball in the hands of your playmaker. So in the

679
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 3: event of something you know, God, you know, obviously hope

680
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: proefully never happens to Dak Prescott, you need to know

681
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 3: that your offense can move forward. And I don't think

682
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: that Dallas knows at the prior to Sam Howell's acquisition

683
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: that that Joe Milton would be the one that can

684
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: continually move this offense forward. I think there was a

685
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: huge question mark hanging over their head and they wanted

686
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 3: some kind of affirmation that they were going to be good.

687
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: So you're basically saying you prefer the insurance policy of

688
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: absolutely over Joe Milton.

689
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 4: I agree.

690
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: I think that Joe, I'm sorry, Sam has had an

691
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: opportunity to play a little bit more football in the

692
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: league too as well. And so with that being said,

693
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: you know, the whole thing with Joe is Joe's only

694
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: had like, what want, two starts three starts in the

695
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: league outside of preseason, and.

696
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: He's had more preseason starts regulars exactly.

697
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: And so what we've seen, how do especially in Washington,

698
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 2: like like Isaiah said, he was able to lead the team.

699
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: The old thing with the Cowboys is just like you said,

700
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: you pray to God nothing happens to Dak, but with

701
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: his efficient and its powerful as this offense was last year,

702
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: if something did happen, you want to make sure that

703
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: with the pieces they have in place, that they can

704
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: still function.

705
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 4: And so that being said, I think that this is

706
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 4: a good insurance.

707
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: Policy, a good backup move for the Cowboys and not

708
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: taking anything away from Joe, and it still gives him

709
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: time to learn and still gives them time to develop

710
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: to as well.

711
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 4: But I think the How is gonna be a good backup.

712
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: I've watched Sam play in North Carolina. I think he's

713
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: a really good player. I thought Sam was hurt by

714
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: when Javonte went to the draft. You know, he had

715
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: to like good players round. I mean, you know, as

716
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: the quarterback man, all of a sudden, you got a

717
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: lot of talent around you. That talent leaves and you

718
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: back here and now you depending on younger guys and

719
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 3: they're asking you to do everything. That's when your interception

720
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: rates can go up and numbers can can hurt you

721
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: a little bit there. So Sam Howe in the building

722
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: here for the Cowboys on a one year deal. Don't

723
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: know the numbers on that yet, but you know, so

724
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: far it looks good. The Cowboys had to pivot once

725
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: Max Crosby ended up being initially traded to the Ravens

726
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: for two first rounders. So they go and make a

727
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: trade for Rashaan Gary for a fourth round pick from

728
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 3: Green Bay. A lot of people say, well green Bay

729
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: was gonna cut in why would you give up a

730
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: fourth The Cowboys ended up going and getting a player who, oh,

731
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: by the way, is better than what they had on

732
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: the roster in my opinion. Donovan as a rock who's

733
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: a young, up and coming player. But Rashan Gary has

734
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: been proven in this league and is he the biggest

735
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 3: fish though?

736
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: Is he?

737
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 5: Michael Parson's No, but he's better than what.

738
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: You had and for a fourth round pick, I will

739
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: do that all day long in my opinion for Rashaan Gary.

740
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 4: Your thoughts I like to move.

741
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: I mentioned another day on Talking Cowboys that I believe

742
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: that after the Max Crosby deal approved fell part whatever,

743
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: once Dallas figured out that they were kind of out

744
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: of the market on that, I think that they kind

745
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 3: of came to the consensus Dallas is that That's what

746
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. I believe that they came to the

747
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: consistence that we're just going to be consistently good across

748
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: the board, that we're not going to be dominant in

749
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: any other element outside of the Kenny Clark and Quinn

750
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: and Williams. I think they want to just be consistently

751
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: have consistent contributors out there where you don't really have

752
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 3: any glaring weak spots. I think that's what they've kind

753
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: of found themselves in. You see all these free agents

754
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: flying off the board, all the big time names that

755
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: would require big time money, those guys are gone. We

756
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: always knew that Dallas never really likes to spend like

757
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: that anyways. But I believe that now what you're seeing

758
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: is Gary, Yeah, you gave up, gave up before, but

759
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: you just traded away also the Digiezua and got back

760
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: a third.

761
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: Right, you get that off your books. So what are

762
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: you doing now?

763
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: What We have a solid piece that we now can

764
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: put over your left tackle, your best player on the

765
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: offensive line most likely, and now Don Azeraku's coming along.

766
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: We're not done there yet. We're going to continually add

767
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: more guys there in terms of depth, because you got

768
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: to have rotational guys. But I don't think you're gonna

769
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: see any big time names. I would love to see

770
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: Jadavian Clowney get retained and see him come back because

771
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 3: you can add him to that depth piece just like

772
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: he was last year.

773
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: He was a big contributor.

774
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: So I think you're gonna see more guys like that,

775
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 3: whether young or veterans in this league that are gonna

776
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: be guys that can get subbed in, that can make contributions,

777
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 3: but that aren't gonna aren't going to hurt you, but

778
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: aren't necessarily gonna be relied upon to be the playmakers.

779
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: He had nail on the head, you know, because we

780
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: were talking about so much pass rush, and to get

781
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: a Max Crosby definitely probably would to put him in

782
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: a three four situation here would have definitely been an

783
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: upgrade to pass rush. But with Gary, he hasn't had

784
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: double digit sacks since he's been in the league, and

785
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: then also playing opposite Micah, he was consistent, but like

786
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: it didn't propel him to go crazy and to get

787
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 2: like I said, double digit sacks. So with that being said,

788
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: like he I mean, he's consistent. The Cowboys didn't go out,

789
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: they didn't make a big splash or anything else like that.

790
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 4: But he will be a consistent player.

791
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 2: And if you can also get David Clowney back with

792
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: that big body too as well, because he fitsd at

793
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: three four of us. What I'm still looking for that

794
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: they're still going to have to generate some pass rush

795
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 2: with that, and it could come up the middle with Williams,

796
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: but then they could also come with Gary, So get pick.

797
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 3: When you say consistency, I think of former Cowboy whose

798
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 3: career was just consistent. Unfortunately it's because of the player

799
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: the Cowboys didn't draft. The people always kind of downgrade.

800
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: But Greg Ellis, Greg Ellis Ellis showed up every week.

801
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,760
Speaker 3: I remember Mike Zimmer saying, I don't have to worry

802
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: about him on you know what you're gonna get right, Yep.

803
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: He knew the scheme, knew what to do. Greg did

804
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: his job. And that's what I think of a Rashan Garry.

805
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: If you just come out here like Greg Gallis, all right,

806
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: the Christian Parker knows he's gonna be where he needs

807
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 3: to be.

808
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 5: Can we make it the plays?

809
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 3: You know, Give me a consistent guy, and I'll go

810
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: find other pieces and we'll go do what we got

811
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: to do there. But I just think, now I sitting

812
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: here twelve you're just listening to you, Okay, that where

813
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to go get one of these outside linebackers, right,

814
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: I think, who's up here? Come on here, Plug and

815
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: Gary as a roku, and then you start to see who.

816
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 5: Else you fit in here.

817
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: The problem with clanning the man dude, ain't trying to

818
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 3: come to train and cans, he.

819
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: Said he does, And here he came out.

820
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: He came out at the end of the year and

821
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: said that I want to come back early so that

822
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: I can be ready by the time the season hits. Now,

823
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 3: whether that's just you know, blowing smoke, I would imagine

824
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 3: most veterans do do that. But I truly believe that

825
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 3: he liked his time here. I think he likes the

826
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room, and I think that he

827
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: wants to continue to come back. I really hope that

828
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: they bring him back. And when I say consistent players,

829
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: I know people are like, what the heck you got

830
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: dominant players on the interior, Okay, that are gonna that

831
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 3: can win their matchups against centers and guards. Okay, so

832
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: you're gonna get interior pressure, whether that comes to the

833
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 3: form of them making guys miss or whether they'm pushing

834
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: the pocket. For Sean Gary, what does he do, Well,

835
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: he's not necessarily the quickest guy in the world, but

836
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: what does he do?

837
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 4: He pushes the pocket, right, he pushed the pocket, he

838
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 4: closes in.

839
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 3: So if you already have that on the inside, you

840
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: have him pressing on the outside, you're restricting what the

841
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: quarterback can do. Now, if you go get you a

842
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: dog that get that just super athletic on the outside

843
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: on to play opposed to him in rotation with Donovan Azraku.

844
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden, you have somebody over there

845
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 3: that can also either a I have pressure from that

846
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: side or you know, against your weaker tackle, which is

847
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: be your right tackle, or you have somebody that can

848
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: push the pocket. Depending on the guy that you get,

849
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: does we do anything for you? They get tyros Whet

850
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: It's a three four. He's a three four outside linebacker.

851
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 3: In my eyes, he's a guy that that fits. And

852
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: I'm just like we're talking about pieces here. That's you

853
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: know that he's the body that and it's cheap, right,

854
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: So Wheat's gonna be cheap and he fits your mold. Also,

855
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 3: another guy that I would like to see that's a

856
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: consistent player that's older, right, but it's still doing this

857
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 3: thing in the league is Bobby Wagner.

858
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 5: Put him in the middle. He put Bobby in the

859
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 5: middle last year.

860
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: I've been saying Bobby for years, Right, they missed their

861
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: opportunity to win when d Q was here and he

862
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: ended up going to.

863
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 4: Play, and you need somebody like that in his defense

864
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: right now.

865
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: You need someone who commands respect right now and can

866
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 2: go out there and lead the guys.

867
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 4: You need that voice.

868
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: And sometimes it takes desperation for you to go out

869
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 3: and do something that that was dq oneted two three

870
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: years ago.

871
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: Now you're desperate.

872
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: Now you're desperate. Now you're listening, and now you're okay,

873
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: what do we have to do to fix this thing?

874
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 4: So? All right, it's good stuff.

875
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 5: Hey, this is fun show man, you know, I mean,

876
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 5: come on back.

877
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 4: I don't know who's see this is.

878
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 3: Our show has been known to do this kind of

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Speaker 3: Chris Beans, you know, been known to make some movies.

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Speaker 4: Who's ad I got?

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Speaker 5: I got a pipeline, got a pipeline. I got a

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Speaker 5: hat today?

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Speaker 4: I can't. I can't. You know.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you know is that new era?

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Speaker 4: Ye see it on?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah there today today, Man, you're getting dry

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Speaker 3: snitch on the air.

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Speaker 8: No more.

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Speaker 3: All right, don't talk to you next week. For Chris

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Speaker 3: being Josh. Everybody makes it happy. A Dallas Cowboys dot

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Speaker 3: Com thank you, will check you out next week.

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