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Speaker 2: No Winner, I've survived Winner for War Tony.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to Nobus, the only

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Speaker 1: survivor podcast that also plays with their balls with an

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Speaker 1: arm tied behind their back. It's Thursday, May fourteen, then

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Speaker 1: we're here to break down the Survivor winners at War Finale.

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Speaker 1: I'm J skeets enjoining us here by the fire for

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Speaker 1: the final time. Tasmelis for the final time.

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Speaker 3: But that was my first finale and I don't want

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Speaker 3: one minute of those three hours back? What and ending?

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Speaker 1: All right, We've got the bearded one Tray Kirby woooooo,

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Speaker 1: the International Man of Mystery taking it to the max.

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Speaker 1: Leelis Friends, Lily and last but not least making this

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Speaker 1: magic happen. It's jd Hella. There he is, and here

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Speaker 1: we are. Yes, our final, no buffs. Congratulations to Tony, who,

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Speaker 1: with a vote of twelve to four last night, won

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Speaker 1: the fortieth season of Survivors Survivor Winners at War. We

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Speaker 1: got a whole lot to break down here because that

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Speaker 1: thing was three hours long, and it was a little

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Speaker 1: legit three hours long. I mean, what the reunion show was,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Eighty five seconds, which is different than

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Speaker 1: the normal seasons. But that's fine. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about. The first question, though, we'll go right

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Speaker 1: to the ending. JAD. Is Tony a deserving winner in

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Speaker 1: your mind?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, of course, one hundred percent. He dominated throughout

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Speaker 4: the game. He played his smartest game ever, obviously, but

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Speaker 4: I think he's played one of the smartest games we've seen,

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Speaker 4: and to see him grow as a player over the

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Speaker 4: three times that he's played has just been amazing. And

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Speaker 4: I don't want to sleep on his social game. He

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Speaker 4: that jury off, and none of them were angry with him,

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Speaker 4: not one, which is amazing.

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Speaker 5: Is he deserving though I don't know, did he do enough.

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Speaker 5: He got the most immunities, he voted basically everybody out

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Speaker 5: and nobody voted for him. It's hard to say if

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Speaker 5: he actually should have pulled this one off. To me,

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Speaker 5: this is one of the all time great performances in

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Speaker 5: the history of Survivor. Just the fact that Tony coming

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Speaker 5: is honestly amazing that nobody ever targeted him once because

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Speaker 5: out for we gotta watch out for all the hyaenas.

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Speaker 5: They're going to be coming for us, big threats. Tony

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Speaker 5: knew he was a threat coming in. Everybody knew he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you said no one was angry with him, JD.

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Speaker 3: Let's say Jeremy was angry with him and voting for

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Speaker 3: Natalie and taking it out on him at the tribal

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Speaker 3: to vote for Natalie, even though he didn't really even

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Speaker 3: see Natalie's game the entire time, which is which is

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Speaker 3: I think just that dig at Tony just screw you.

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Speaker 1: Was Jeremy angry with Tony or was he just angry

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Speaker 1: he had to sit there in a tropical month soon

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Speaker 1: maybe he was just pissed off about that. Oh you're right, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean the resume for Tony is unbelievable. For Immunity

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Speaker 1: to get out of that extortion. He flipped the vote,

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Speaker 1: it was, didn't have a single vote cast against him.

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Speaker 1: He built a ladder, he built a spy nest, He

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Speaker 1: caught a shark. The guy was TV Gold And uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know it was a it was a softball question

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not. I wasn't angry with the top three at all, Right,

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Speaker 4: I was the most enjoyable final tribal council I've ever seen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't believe just how close he was to

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Speaker 5: That's Sarah Foia Lee, always jumping out too fast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's I mean. I couldn't believe it because

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Speaker 6: And then Tony recovered, and we saw earlier in the

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Speaker 6: he was deserving because he played a pretty good game

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Speaker 6: multiple sides at the same time, and that's a pretty

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Speaker 6: They always he always managed to sort of deflect the

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Speaker 5: It worked again.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it didn't really work. He nearly went

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Speaker 1: nummy said up there, he was up there for him

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Speaker 5: They showed him shaking, and I thought it was just

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Speaker 1: He's just incredible, Like not only is it, he's an

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Speaker 1: Like anytime he talks to the camera and confessionals, he's

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Speaker 1: said it there, JD. This jury was definitely not bitter

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Speaker 1: kudos to you. They were. It was a loving jury,

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Usually you get somebody who's had one too many

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad that that wasn't part of it this time.

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Speaker 1: Do you think, you know, Tony wins the thing? So

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Speaker 1: maybe ultimately the answer is Tony. But did do you

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Speaker 1: think the three finalists did a pretty good job of

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Speaker 1: pitching their case to the jury? I'll start with you, JD.

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Speaker 1: With that one. We can get everybody chiming in on that.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think they did a as far as sitting

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Speaker 4: there and facing them and answering everybody's question, I thought

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Speaker 4: they all did a great job. Fishback today, on their

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Speaker 4: podcast basically talked about how Tony deflected everything. He rather

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Speaker 4: up a hilarious anecdote like a spy nest, and it

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Speaker 4: old Tony, And that was a brilliant play for him,

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Speaker 4: for somebody who had such a dominant game to then

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Speaker 4: He was basically doing stand up up there, and it

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Speaker 4: was great. And Natalie came in and she was obviously

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Speaker 4: a long shot, but she made her case and I'm

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that the way Tribal played out just

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Speaker 5: Edge of Extinction tells everybody Tony's winning, and they're like,

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Speaker 5: should we believe this? As it turns out, we should

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Speaker 5: have one hundred percent believed that, because I thought that

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Speaker 5: both Michelle and Natalie were a lot more convincing at

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Speaker 5: he was kind of deflecting. He was just joking around.

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Speaker 1: Twelve four is a blowout.

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Speaker 5: The only votes Natalie got were from people she was

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Speaker 4: Right, And these things always come to light in tribal

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Speaker 4: But as Rob pointed out, she sort of withdrew from

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Speaker 4: and you always get these little reminders at the final

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've read an article since last night's episode where

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Speaker 1: she's talking to Dalton Ross. Natalie was about he you know,

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Speaker 1: Dulton asked her, you know, why did bost and Rob

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Speaker 1: say that? Was that true? I mean, did you sort

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Speaker 1: particularly think she said, like Adam and Wendell, like you're telling.

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Speaker 5: Me Adam was complaining out there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like she listed a couple of people that were

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Speaker 1: just like their energy was like really bad, and I

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Speaker 1: a shock that Tony won, but you're right for Michelle

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Speaker 3: I just wonder after watching them pitch their cases, do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tend to agree with that. I don't know

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Speaker 3: But then again, I don't know the vote of changed

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Lee, what do you think? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I wonder if the voting would have changed if they

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Speaker 1: I thought was just.

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Speaker 6: An incredible performance. But during all of those, you know,

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, I was like, Ben, what's

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Speaker 6: Like like keep the beard, stick it out, stick it through.

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Speaker 6: And even Denise looked crazy with.

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Speaker 6: What it looked like she had a week on. So

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Speaker 6: I was just trying to figure out who was who.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, no, I mean at that point again, you

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Speaker 1: It's a tough sell, I thought. So I think what

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Speaker 1: I orchestrated that, and like, don't make any enemies. Just

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Speaker 1: two million dollars. I don't know if it was a strategy.

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Speaker 1: It felt like it was. Maybe that that's what his

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Speaker 5: He could have definitely only made it worse, like you're saying, task,

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Speaker 5: see I don't need to do that. That being said,

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Speaker 5: literally every player in the game was out on an

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Speaker 5: island for thirty nine days except for Sandra. What's more

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Speaker 1: Did well, if Natalie's to be believed in this article,

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Speaker 5: But there were people out there with her, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Danny, Yeah, I mean there are people out there

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Speaker 1: a very long time. You're You're not wrong. I mean

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Speaker 1: Like I was playing the game. I was just playing

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Speaker 1: you know, influence the game. Yeah. No, but you're right, Tray,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's why Edge sucks, right, It's like, as

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Speaker 5: It's extreme camping. And she no doubt she dominated Edge

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Speaker 5: even though he won during his season. But we've seen

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Speaker 5: a lot of times the challenge Beast rarely rarely actually

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Speaker 5: You know, she was basically playing the Ozzie game. She

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Speaker 1: Is right, right, right, that's true. So look, Boston Rob

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Speaker 1: brought it up. One of you guys slipped it in there.

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Speaker 1: Was it a mistake JD on Natalie's part to not

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Speaker 4: think that I can beat Tony at fire and I

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Speaker 4: want to guaranteed spot. I'd rather plead my case and

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Speaker 4: she would have gotten a lot more votes. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: if I guess we're calling her Lisina now, I don't

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Speaker 4: have gone out fighting, and if, by chance she had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the also the other part of that

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Speaker 1: You gotta actually build it. And that's where Tony ultimately won.

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Speaker 1: But if Sarah defeats ton and it's Natalie, Sarah and

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Speaker 1: Michelle fascinated to know how that one ends. Does Sarah win?

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Speaker 1: Is she as the Cops r US alliance? So does

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Speaker 5: Sir? To me, that fire Making Challenge was twenty seventeen

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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen Golden State Warriors versus Houston Rockets. Whoever wins

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Speaker 1: No problem. Okay, So you think Sarah wins. If she

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Speaker 5: Think she gets probably ten votes to maybe six for

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Speaker 5: Wow Natalie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, but I understand why Natalie didn't want to

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Speaker 6: But having not seen him, I think the risk is

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Speaker 3: Well, the mistake Natalie made is that she brought it

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Speaker 3: I want to do it, And then Tony said, so

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Speaker 3: think there was a shot of bars and Rubb was like, Okay,

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00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 3: well you should do that, and so and so. Then

436
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 3: that's sitting in their minds until you know, the tribal

437
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 3: council where she didn't address it. She didn't. She didn't say, yeah,

438
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 3: this is my position. By why the heck would I

439
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: throw myself into that spot. She didn't. She didn't say

440
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 3: that that was my advantage. I won that thing. I

441
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 3: won the immunity challenge or whatever the hell was called

442
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: back at that point. I guess that's what it was called.

443
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,959
Speaker 3: Uh and and yeah, So she didn't address that, and

444
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 3: then she obviously didn't take him on. So I think

445
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: that was a bit of a mistake there. Maybe she

446
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 3: would have got an extra vote if she did screw

447
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 3: that up.

448
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 4: It's a little unfair for Natalie because of Chris from

449
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 4: the previous season.

450
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 1: Was his name, Chris, Chris Underwood two seasons prior.

451
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he was the first guy to do this,

452
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 4: right to put himself on the block, make fire and

453
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 4: and win, right, go on to win. If he had

454
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 4: never done that, then I don't know that Natalie would

455
00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 4: have It would have looked as bad for Natalie because

456
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 4: why would you give up immunity. It's just it's actually

457
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 4: an insane move when you know, when you think about

458
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 4: it was an insane move when Chris did it, and uh,

459
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 4: but now it's kind of expected, right, like especially somebody

460
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 4: who comes back from the edge, right, So I don't know.

461
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: I mean, she just should have said something. I think

462
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: she just said it said when Tony said bring it on,

463
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 3: she should have just said, what am I stupid?

464
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 4: Why would I throw myself into Yeah, I just position

465
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 4: you're you're right?

466
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: It is it? It is it, I think she.

467
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 4: I mean I only watched it once because it's three hours,

468
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 4: but but I feel like she did say, hey, I

469
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: won the immunity, I earned my spot here on the

470
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 4: final two, so those guys can kind of have at

471
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 4: it and I want to break up that that that alliance.

472
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: And I think she even alluded to like I hope

473
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 4: Tony loses.

474
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean if Sarah beats Tony, then Natalie

475
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: looks really smart, right, like like I used you to

476
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: get rid of your own you know, alliance member, Like

477
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: you guys were tied at the hip and we saw

478
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: that emotional scene like, yeah, I mean, and.

479
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 4: So in that case, does say Sarah beats Tony in

480
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 4: the fire making? Does that mean does that take away

481
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 4: some of her victory over Tony because Natalie was smart

482
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 4: enough to pit the two of them together. I mean,

483
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 4: that's that's brutal if that's the case, right, because that

484
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 4: should be another tick on Sarah's resume, but it could

485
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: actually work out in Natalie's favor.

486
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 5: Y'all are given her too much credit for not taking

487
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: on Tony because she did enough to get to the finals.

488
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 5: She didn't do enough to win, and that's why she

489
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 5: didn't get more votes. Chris Underwood gave you the blueprint.

490
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 5: If you want to win, take down the biggest threat

491
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 5: in the fire making challenge? What can people say to you?

492
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 5: Then then it's you and two goats there?

493
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

494
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, give us an alternate ending, survivor just just film it,

495
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: film another another quick scene, no big deal. What do

496
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: you guys think of both Michelle and Natalie encouraging Sarah

497
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 3: during the fire making. I'm not sure if she was

498
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: within earshot, but there was a lot of come on,

499
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: you can do it all.

500
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: Are He's gonna win the game if he's there. If

501
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: Tony is sitting there, it's just like the chances of

502
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: anybody else beating him are like slim to none. I

503
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: think they all knew that. They're like just praying that

504
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 1: he would lose. That's all I took from it. So, yeah,

505
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: cheering on Sarah, come on, yeah, stop using.

506
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: Husk just feels a little a little unethical. I know

507
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 3: they're cheering for her, but like verbally, look, come.

508
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 5: On, you could do it.

509
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: It just I don't know, kind of goes against what

510
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: what Survivor's all about, it feels like.

511
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 5: But I also think we were getting sand bagged a

512
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 5: little on how good Tony wasn't making fire. According to him,

513
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 5: he was out looking for idols every single night after

514
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 5: everybody went to bed, building a fire in like one

515
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 5: of those torches every single night. So yeah, we saw

516
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 5: him struggling with fire, but I think he was playing.

517
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 3: He's a real vampire. That's not a vampire.

518
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 5: He's one of those not lazy vampires.

519
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: What did what did everybody think of Sarah's speech before

520
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: we got to the final tribal council specifically speaking about

521
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 1: you know, the gender politics really and about being a

522
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: woman having won this season and feeling guilt the way

523
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 1: the way she played, and it only matters because she's

524
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: a woman. And if you're a man, you play that

525
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: game and your backstab and all that, you're you're applauded,

526
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: But there's a different standard for women. What did everybody

527
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: think of that? Either decision was was she sort of

528
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: slyly making her final tribal council case, you know, a

529
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: few before, or was it just purely of the moment?

530
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: Would you think?

531
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 5: I thought both were true. I thought she was making

532
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 5: her case early, which I thought was a brilliant move.

533
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 5: And I think what she was saying about the gender

534
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 5: politics that Survivor is true. If you're in a duo

535
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 5: where it's a man and a woman in general and Survivor,

536
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 5: they're giving credit to the man because the man is

537
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 5: gonna be basically trying to seek all the credit, is

538
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 5: what it feels like. You know, they're always trying to

539
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 5: play out in front and trying to take credit for

540
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 5: what's happening. I always assumed that the women playing are

541
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 5: usually smarter and that they play under the radar, But

542
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 5: to me now hearing that, it feels like I'm playing

543
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 5: into the stereotype two just because just because it feels

544
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 5: like an under the radar game is a game that

545
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 5: women have won with in the past before. But I

546
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 5: think Sarah is exactly right in her season. You know,

547
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 5: she was controlling the game. She's just not necessarily out

548
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 5: there in the way it was. And I also thought

549
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 5: it was really cool to hear Jeff bringing up how

550
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 5: even he approaches people differently and he hadn't really realized

551
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 5: it over the course of twenty years, and now in

552
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 5: the past couple of seasons he has been.

553
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for them to keep that in the show

554
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: even more surprising. Not only did he say it, but

555
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: then they kept it.

556
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 4: In trays exactly right. I think it is a little

557
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 4: bit of both. I imagined that after her win two

558
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 4: years ago, she got a lot of flak for that.

559
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 4: Obviously she's and it sucks that she felt bad about

560
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 4: winning Survivor for the right up until that moment in

561
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 4: tribal Council and gender bias is a problem, obviously, and

562
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: last season, the season of Survivor got really maligned, and

563
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 4: rightfully so, because there was some inappropriate touching that was

564
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: on camera and the producers didn't react to it quickly enough.

565
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: But and a lot of people sort of bailed on

566
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 4: that season. But but it would have been good if

567
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 4: people stuck with it, because at least it helped bring

568
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 4: the topic to the forefront, you know. And and I

569
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 4: think in the finale of last season they did a

570
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,239
Speaker 4: really great job of addressing it, and Jeff apologized on

571
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 4: live TV, and and we had we spent an entire

572
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 4: segment of the finale of Survivor talking about workplace harassment, right,

573
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 4: And that's one of the great things about Survivors. So

574
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 4: it sucks that that that that is the case. I

575
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: don't know what to do about it, except for trying

576
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: not to engage it in it in my everyday life,

577
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: which is as a forty nine year old man, is

578
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 4: sometimes you know, old habits die hard, I guess. And

579
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to think I'm I have gender bias,

580
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 4: but I think I probably do. I think a lot

581
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 4: of people do, as Jeff says, and as a father

582
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 4: of two boys, it's important to try to make sure

583
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 4: that the men I'm sending out into the world see

584
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 4: men and women as equals. So we do things like

585
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: we don't use the word bitch or slang for female

586
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 4: genitalia to describe someone being soft or wimpy, you know,

587
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: like and hopefully that makes a difference. I mean, you

588
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 4: know it's hard.

589
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean I think ultimately it does. So

590
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: I would encourage you to keep doing that and everybody

591
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: to do that. I think it's great advice. It is

592
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: weird though here this is now six consecutive seasons of

593
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: Survivor with a man winning Ben Wendell, Nick, Chris, Tommy,

594
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: and now Tony Sarah Lasina. The last woman to win

595
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: in season thirty four, and I think it's twelve out

596
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: of the last fifteen seasons now of Survivor. Yeah, have

597
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: been men that have won, which is weird because there

598
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: was a good time there, a good chunk of time

599
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: earlier on Survivor History of Survivor where it was pretty

600
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: even between men and women. And yeah, men have just

601
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: gone on a wild run here and I don't know

602
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: what that means, but it's of note for sure.

603
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they should do no joke study on

604
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: it or just like a deep dive into why that's happening,

605
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: if it's actually happening. The a gender bias, but I

606
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 4: mean it seems to be the numbers say that it

607
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: is happening.

608
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

609
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, was anybody shocked that Michelle did receive zero final votes?

610
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: I know she's going against Tony and Natalie's got it.

611
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: They both have amazing stories, they both played different great games.

612
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: But for Michelle to get zero votes, you know, tasks,

613
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: were you surprised by that or not? Really?

614
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: I definitely wouldn't have voted for her, So I wasn't surprised.

615
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 3: The editors did a good job of including Nick saying

616
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: to the camera, I know how hard it is being

617
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: on the bottom, but he wasn't showing voting.

618
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally thought it was a vote from Michelle,

619
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: even I, yeah, I got I got tricked on that one.

620
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't showing his his whatever you

621
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 3: call the thing, his scrawl. I guess it's called that

622
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: he wrote on. So just just that line included there.

623
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: But you know, I wouldn't have I definitely wouldn't have

624
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: voted for her.

625
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 6: I was. I was bummed for her, to be honest,

626
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 6: to get zero votes because she's been waiting since when

627
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 6: they wrapped up filming for this very night, and to

628
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 6: be sitting there with her sister and see the votes

629
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 6: come out and not get one, considering how strongly she

630
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 6: ended this game, in my opinion, you know, winning a

631
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 6: couple of those challenges over the last couple of weeks

632
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 6: when she was down and out and she came back,

633
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 6: and the one she won last night was an incredible

634
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 6: performance because she was so calm and control putting together

635
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 6: that final puzzle. Everyone was watching her to try to

636
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 6: learn what her strategy was or how she was putting

637
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 6: it together so successfully, and she did it. And again,

638
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 6: as I said earlier, my respect for her just went

639
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 6: through the roof because she was continually sort of counted

640
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 6: out and thought she was going to be voted out,

641
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 6: and she knew she was on the block there a

642
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 6: couple of times, and she kept on fighting and kept

643
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 6: on making it through, and she sort of you know,

644
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 6: you could see her talk about that, saying, like, you know,

645
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 6: she played the right game to get into that position. So,

646
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 6: you know, for all that anticipation and how nervous she

647
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 6: must have been going into last night to just you know,

648
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 6: not see one single person vote for her must have

649
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 6: been pretty devastating, I think so.

650
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: Well, especially when you add to that that she received

651
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: all these fire tokens right from people leaving the game.

652
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: So I think in your head, if you're her, you

653
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: must be feeling pretty good. You're going to get a

654
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: couple of votes, because every time somebody leaves the island,

655
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: well there's a couple of fire tokens in your bag

656
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: the next day. You must have a feeling of like

657
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: they like me, or they're rooting for me, or they're

658
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: hoping I get there to some extent at least.

659
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 6: So one at least someone, you know, like because when

660
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 6: when they just kept getting rolled, you know, read out,

661
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 6: and she was just sitting there just saying, oh my god,

662
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 6: this is this is tragic for her. But good on her,

663
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 6: you know, good on her for staying through it, because,

664
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 6: as I say a couple of times, and it was

665
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 6: alluded to this, she was on the bottom and looked

666
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 6: like she was gonna get voted out, and she and

667
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 6: and she just looked like she was struggling in so

668
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 6: many of the challenges and did enough to get back

669
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 6: into it. So good on her. So I was disappointed

670
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 6: for her, Yeah me too.

671
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: She I was rooting for her, obviously. I like the

672
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: quiet games. I like the I like rooting for the underdogs,

673
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 4: and she was an underdog for most of the game,

674
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 4: especially after the merge, and and it sucks. Yeah, Nick,

675
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: what the hell? Man, come on? But you know you're

676
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: gonna go. I guess it's I'm trying to think of

677
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: a basketball analogy. I mean, like she's like the Spurs

678
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: and what's who's this? What's a sexy basketball team that's

679
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 4: all flat flash and flair. I mean, you're gonna have

680
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: more They're gonna get more attention. You know what. She's

681
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: just she's plugged away. She she was, you know, surfing

682
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 4: along on the bottom, and she knew exactly where she

683
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 4: was in the game. She knew exactly what was going

684
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 4: on at all times during the game, almost more than Tony.

685
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 4: I think the two of them were so plugged in

686
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: and understood what was happening when it was happening. It

687
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: just turned out that Tony had a sexier game. As

688
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 4: far as the jury.

689
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 3: Goes, it's better for her resume though, that she gets

690
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: zero votes rather than one vote. Right now, now she's

691
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: the survivor that got zero votes.

692
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens a lot final Final three, where if

693
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: there's three people there, it's generally just two people getting votes,

694
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: so it's definitely not unique, but she has made Survivor history.

695
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: Dalton Ross wrote that Michelle has now played twice and

696
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: never been voted out.

697
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty amazing, and.

698
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Some other people had done that at the start of

699
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: the Survivor's careers Russell hants, Amanda, Kimmel, Sandra, but all

700
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: three of them, and I don't think I'm missing anybody else,

701
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, eventually played again and were voted out. So

702
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: she's the only one right now to have ever played

703
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: more than once and never been voted out, which is

704
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: pretty damn impressive.

705
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're sure to play it again. I think

706
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 5: the change would be she needs more strategy, because you're

707
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 5: one hundred percent right.

708
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: JD.

709
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 5: Her and Tony knew everything that was happening with the game.

710
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: Because obviously Michelle is very likable. People are giving her

711
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 5: fire tokens after they get voted out because a little

712
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 5: bit I'm sure you know, it's right after they're voted out,

713
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 5: so they're madet whoever voted out, and they're like, but

714
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 5: you know what Michelle told me, it might have been happening.

715
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 5: She just needed to figure out a way to actually

716
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 5: be able to make at least one call, right. She

717
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 5: was on the wrong side of the vote for basically

718
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 5: every single vote until the Ben vote at the end,

719
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 5: which was all Ben and Sarah. And I also thought

720
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 5: that Michelle kind of buried herself a little during final

721
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 5: tribal when they were talking about their experiences with Edge

722
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 5: of Extinction, cause Natalie obviously had to grind out there

723
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 5: and win all these advantages. The one thing Tony ever

724
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 5: got from Edge of Extinction was a disadvantage that he

725
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 5: had to scramble to be able to be involved in

726
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 5: a tribal council. But Michelle comes out and she's just like, well,

727
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 5: the Edge for me was all about getting advantages and

728
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 5: getting things to stay in the game and people gifting

729
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 5: me fire tokens. And it's like, Okay, I mean, yes,

730
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: kudos to you for making these bonds with people that

731
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 5: they want to hook you up, but also you're just

732
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 5: getting advantages to be dragged along this entire time.

733
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she was in a tough spot. Yeah, she

734
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: definitely was.

735
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 4: I think that at the end of the day, people

736
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 4: don't put as much stock in the social game as

737
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 4: they do the uh whatever, the outlast part of it is,

738
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: you know, like it's just it's a very important part

739
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: of the game, but it's not as important as making

740
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 4: those big moves.

741
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a reason why Natalie picked her right to

742
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: be there in the end. Was like she wanted her

743
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: to be her meat shield goat whatever survivor terms you

744
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 3: got out there was. Yeah, sure, that's why she was

745
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: bringing her.

746
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: Yes, so you're saying JD of out wit, outplay, out last,

747
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: you think the jury, for the most part or the

748
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: last couple of seasons, especially in a you know, winners season,

749
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: are gonna lean heavily to more outwit and outplay than

750
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: the just straight up out last. I do agree with

751
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: that too.

752
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 4: Wait, is out wit part of well?

753
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: I think I always look at I mean look outlast.

754
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: She Michelle, I said it. She survived. She just all

755
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: she did was survived. To me, that's outlasting fifteen of

756
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: the nineteen tribal councils. Like you're somehow still here.

757
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I take true.

758
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I take out wit as more social and I

759
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: take out play as like more like idols and winning

760
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: challenges and blah blah blah.

761
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: Of which she won two immunities.

762
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I know she was. She looked there were

763
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: many times where it looked like she was going home

764
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: you saiden Lye, and then she pulled out gigantic wins

765
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: to save her ass. So you got you gotta give

766
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: her kudos there. So at least she's got a little

767
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: that survivor history going for right now. It'd be interesting

768
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: to see. And she said she'd come back in a heartbeat,

769
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: she'd play again. Great, I'd assume she'll be back. Could

770
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: she do it again? Like the way she plays and

771
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: it is so under the radar and she is so likable,

772
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: could she do this? Could she repeat it for a

773
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: third time? Type of thing? Go very deep in the game.

774
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: I sort of think she could.

775
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 4: I think she could too. I mean, look at Tony.

776
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 4: Look at his the evolution of his game. Yes, he

777
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: won the first time he played, but then his chaotic

778
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 4: nature got him voted out immediately the second time that

779
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: he played almost immediately. Yeah, and then he came in

780
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 4: again and and won anyone in in glorious spectacular fashion.

781
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 4: So I think she just needs to evolve her game,

782
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 4: as as Trey just said, like, she just needs to

783
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 4: throw in a couple of big moves and you're good.

784
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: She also feels like she may have won personally, right, like, yeah,

785
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean I know she got zero. I'm sure she's

786
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 1: super bummed by that, but she feels vindicated, I think

787
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: because I couldn't believe how much over the last couple

788
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: of episodes we were being just told of people that

789
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: won the damn game. We're struggling with the fact of

790
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: the audience and fans saying, you know, oh, you didn't

791
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: deserve it or you didn't do anything, and how hard

792
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: that is. That's a you know, we got a lot

793
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: of that. We got that from Ben, We've got that

794
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: from Lesina, obviously, Michelle, even Sophie to some extent. And

795
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: it is a thing. I mean, there's no doubt. I mean,

796
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: all these rankings and all these people saying, oh, what

797
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: did she do? So and so should have won? It's

798
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: got to be tough. You're like, God, damn it, I

799
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: won the game and you don't even like me.

800
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't imagine this scrutiny that you're under it,

801
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, she beat Aubrey in her when

802
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 4: she won, and Aubrey is a super popular player, a

803
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: great player, but she beat her fair and square, so

804
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 4: come on, like, she won, So to say that you

805
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 4: don't deserve the whim is just it's ludicrous.

806
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: Were Trey there any specific votes that did surprise you,

807
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: because in the end, everybody votes for Tony except Jeremy Tyson,

808
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: who'm else at forgetting poverty poverty and Ethan thank you?

809
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: So was there anyone that voted for Tony that you

810
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: were surprised did and didn't go for someone else?

811
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: I was actually more surprised that Jeremy voted for Natalie

812
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 5: because in the pre show stuff, all of his talking

813
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 5: was saying, no way somebody from Edge of Extinction should

814
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 5: win a season like this, but him and Natalie are

815
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 5: obviously super close with each other, so he tossed his

816
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 5: vote that way. But I mean, I don't know. To me,

817
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 5: it just the way everything played out, even with Tony winning,

818
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 5: you know, like to come from behind fire making challenge,

819
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 5: if that's exactly how it played out. It just it

820
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 5: was undeniable to me that that he was going to

821
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 5: be the winner there. So I guess I was a

822
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 5: little bit more surprised that there were even more votes

823
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 5: on Natalie.

824
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, Natalie old Ross that she definitely thought

825
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: she was going to get Danny's vote and Amber's vote,

826
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: which she didn't. And that sort of makes sense when you,

827
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, how long was she there with those two

828
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: on the edge of it?

829
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: Amber was there day two? Yeah, she was the second

830
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: one and Danny was early as well.

831
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: Third or fourth. So she thought she was going to

832
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: get those yeah.

833
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went Natalie Amber, Danny won two three those first.

834
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So she thought she was going to get

835
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: those two votes from those women, and then she thought

836
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: maybe that she would get Kim and Sophie's vote. That

837
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: those votes may have swung her way because I guess

838
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: she shared peanut butter with them at some point that

839
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: they didn't show us on the show, and so peanut

840
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: butter didn't come through in the clutch this time. It

841
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: had been so money during this season of Survivor.

842
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I just said that that they

843
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 4: don't they don't put as much stock in the social game. However,

844
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: if Natalie comes back, she's got to work on that

845
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: social game, man.

846
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.

847
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: If you can't win people over in on the edge

848
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: of it, think then there's something going on. There's something wrong.

849
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, you're right, But the wasn't wrong part

850
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 6: of her game, wasn't that poverty. I think it was

851
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 6: saying like they kind of respected the fact that she

852
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 6: she just sort of told the truth to everybody. So

853
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 6: in a weird way, she might not have won people

854
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 6: over in a friendly manner, but in an honest way,

855
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 6: people at least respected her approach.

856
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 4: Well I already did that, Yeah.

857
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 6: Right, Okay, yeah, so.

858
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: But that's that's what you have to do in Survivor. Right.

859
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: If you're the type of if Poverty is the type

860
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: of person where she likes it, you know, just a

861
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: matter of fact, be a straight shooter with me, then

862
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: okay I should do that with you. But Lee, if

863
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: you're a different type of person, Yeah right, I don't know.

864
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: You need me to humor you, you need me to

865
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: bond with you over something, well, then I should do

866
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: that with you. That's the beauty of survivor. Really, I

867
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: mean you're being two face, three face, whatever you want

868
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 1: to call it with yeah people.

869
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 6: I just thought it was a good moment though, And again, yeah,

870
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 6: she's speaking for herself, not for everybody. But it was

871
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 6: almost like we you know, we we sort of saw

872
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 6: the game you were playing and you weren't almost aligning

873
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 6: yourself with everybody. But ultimately it worked for you, and

874
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 6: it almost pulled off the you know, almost pulled off

875
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 6: the win.

876
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

877
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if being voted out on the first

878
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: day just drove her to be more of that person

879
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 3: that needs to work on her social game, to be

880
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: more isolated, and to be more Hey, I'm getting back

881
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: there no matter what. If everybody they just voted me out,

882
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm doing this thing on my own, rather than if

883
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: she was in the game, she probably would have worked

884
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: on her weaknesses, I imagine a little bit more anyway,

885
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 3: rather than like that probably just drove her to get

886
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: the heck off that thing where she was getting her

887
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: toes nibbled, as she told Dalton Ross, and I wanted

888
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: more of that story. Give me some of that toenails

889
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: were nipped toes.

890
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Ben here, because there was a lot

891
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: of twitter backlash that Ben quit the game in a

892
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: weird way last night in the finale trail's start with you.

893
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Do you think that's fair? Did Ben in a weird

894
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: way quit when he gave permission to Sarah to vote

895
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: him out or no?

896
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 5: Oh yeah I thought he did. I thought it was

897
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 5: a fine quit and a noble quit. Though I was

898
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 5: one hundred percent, like, Okay, he sees the writing on

899
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 5: the wall. To me, at that point, he has seen

900
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 5: Natalie come back and tell everybody that Tony's going to

901
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 5: win this game, yep, and he has to know that

902
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 5: if he goes to the jury, he's not going to

903
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 5: get enough votes to win. Clearly, the way he was

904
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 5: received on his previous season as a guy who just

905
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 5: kind of bullied his way through the season and won

906
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 5: with advantages and idols and building this fire for the

907
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 5: very first time that obviously affected him. So I thought

908
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 5: he saw that his time in the game was over,

909
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 5: but he's still able to do something special in the game.

910
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 5: It was a bit of a business decision, but I

911
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 5: was there for it. I was really enjoying seeing Ben's

912
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 5: personal growth, no doubt about it.

913
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 6: God, it was an emotional moment there for me. I mean,

914
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 6: it was like in The Titanic when Jack is holding

915
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 6: on to their last thing of ice and he sort

916
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 6: of floats away and roses like Jack come back, you know,

917
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 6: because that's basically what Ben was doing. He's like, I've

918
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 6: got to go to save you, Sarah, give a better

919
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 6: chance here, And that's what it was. And I know

920
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 6: it was an emotional show. Actually, early on it was

921
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 6: very emotional there sort of talking with all the people

922
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 6: who came back from Edge after they they realized their

923
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 6: game was over. And but I thought this moment between

924
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 6: Ben and Sarah was so intimate and so special. And

925
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 6: you know, I didn't like it when Denise kind of

926
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 6: threw herself last week and said, oh, guys, I know

927
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 6: my time's up. I thought that was a bit weak.

928
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 6: But in this case here, as Trey mentioned that, I

929
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 6: think Ben sort of realized, like, I'm probably not going

930
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 6: to win this. I want to try to help Sarah

931
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 6: in that case, you know, sort of like if I

932
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 6: can't win, I wanted to see my friend win, and

933
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 6: that's what he did.

934
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: And it was.

935
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was tough to see big Burley Ben there,

936
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 6: you know, breaking down because you know, he's a big guy.

937
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 6: He's been a good competitor, he's been fun. I've enjoyed

938
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 6: watching him, so to sort of see him realize that

939
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 6: his time was up was was a you know, emotional moment.

940
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he turned into merv Hughes. Okay, but

941
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I agree with all of what you're saying, guys,

942
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: but the ironic part of the whole thing is he

943
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 1: actually hurt Sarah's game, I think by giving her permission

944
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 1: to vote him out, Like it would have been better

945
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: off for Sarah if Ben was still there and went

946
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: into the fire challenge and maybe took down Tony. I

947
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 1: don't think Ben's winning the game at all. He knew

948
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: it and we all knew it. And if Sarah's there

949
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: with Ben and then whoever else besides Tony, I think

950
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: she's got a good chance to win it. So I

951
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: actually think he hurt her chances to win this game,

952
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: even though he was trying to be obviously, you know,

953
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: a true friend and sort of lay on the sword.

954
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, I agree one hundred percent. I mean, he

955
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 4: knew that he wasn't gonna win, and yes he quit

956
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: the game and his heart was in the right place,

957
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 4: but just to stick around for that extra day and

958
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: it would have been a completely different outcome. So yeah,

959
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred percent.

960
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it would have been a different outcome because

961
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: the four people who would have been Michelle would have

962
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: been voting it off instead of Ben yep right, And

963
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: so it would have been Sarah, Ben, Tony, and Natalie

964
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: in the ball challenge, and so Natalie would have had

965
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 3: to one to pick somebody, put Ben against Tony or

966
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: whoever in the fire challenge or whatever. So yeah, I

967
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: guess so. But at the same time, I think it

968
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: was also a bit of an exchange in exchange for

969
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 3: all the gender bias that happens, it did happen after

970
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 3: the Sarah speech, and so it was a bit of

971
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 3: a He took a knee and he sacrificed himself to her,

972
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: and it was it was I don't think him or

973
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: Tony did enough to express himself about the gender gap

974
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: when Sarah mentioned it. When Sarah went into her her speech.

975
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: Ben maybe not able to express his feelings like ninety

976
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: eight percent of men in this world, but there he did.

977
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: I think, you know, it was the moment of the

978
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: night for me. I mean, it sure may be a

979
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 3: tiny bit calculated, but at the same time, he let

980
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 3: her go on and he he died on the twig

981
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 3: that Tony was hanging on, you know, like he took

982
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 3: a he got spared for her, and I thought it

983
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 3: was a noble move.

984
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Three, I mean, there really were three really emotional

985
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: scenes in this finale. That one between Ben and Sarah

986
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: the post fire making challenge between Tony and Sarah where

987
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: Tony couldn't even look at her as she's leaving, and

988
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: then the after the Battleback challenge, Prope's giving a bunch

989
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: of Survivor legends really a chance to have their moment

990
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: in the sun JD. What was your favorite moment? Maybe

991
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: it's something else from the three hour finale.

992
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: Oh, that was the best moment of the show and

993
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 4: maybe the best moment of the season. And that's sort

994
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: of what it sums up what Survivor is for me,

995
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 4: because normally, I mean, this season is obviously all about

996
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 4: the winners, but I never remember who won what name

997
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 4: a season. I have no idea who was who won

998
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 4: that season. It's not about the winner for me necessarily,

999
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 4: it's the journey that people go on and the personal

1000
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 4: growth that people experience while they're out there, and it's

1001
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 4: it's such an extreme situation to put yourself in, and

1002
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 4: it's such an extreme game to wrap your head around,

1003
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: and it changes your life. As Ethan pointed out, he

1004
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 4: is an extreme case of this, but it literally saved

1005
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 4: his life, not just not just the transformative nature of

1006
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 4: the game, but he was able to set up this

1007
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 4: this cancer charity that raised money to develop the drug

1008
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 4: that literally saved his life. I mean that is amazing

1009
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 4: to me, and it's just it was emotional. I mean,

1010
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: I got it was very dusty in my in my

1011
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: living room when that was happening. So so yeah, I

1012
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: loved it. I loved it.

1013
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: Trey, what about you? Favorite moment from last night?

1014
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely the basically saying goodbye the Survivor Legends after

1015
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 5: the Battleback challenge at Edge of Extinction. The Ethan speech

1016
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 5: was amazing, but I was also touched by Tyson basically

1017
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 5: saying I figured out who I was coming out here

1018
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 5: playing Survivor the first time. Then I had kids, and

1019
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 5: I came out and realized Survivor's not actually that important

1020
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 5: to me. I love playing this game and I did

1021
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 5: for a decade, but being a dad is what I

1022
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 5: really want to do. And you know that certainly resonated

1023
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 5: with me.

1024
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder how many of these older head Survivor

1025
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: players we do see play again. I don't know, Like,

1026
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: I don't think we're seeing poverty again. I don't think

1027
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: we're seeing Yule again. I maybe even the Boston Robin

1028
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: Amber are done. Feels that way and so that was

1029
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: a pretty cool moment and that we were actually in

1030
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: a weird way. I was thinking about it. Maybe that

1031
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: doesn't make I don't know, maybe that doesn't make the

1032
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: episode if we if they don't decide to go with

1033
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: like a three hour finale, like maybe more of that

1034
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: probably happens in the reunion show, and I don't think

1035
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: it would have hit us as hard. So it ended

1036
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: up working out. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they ken.

1037
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's but it's perfect television. I mean, and just

1038
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: sure the producers know that these people are at their

1039
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: most vulnerable part of the game in some ways, the

1040
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 4: most vulnerable moment of their lives. Really, I mean, after

1041
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 4: going there is no experience like this in your real life,

1042
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 4: and then to just start asking them questions when their

1043
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 4: dream has literally died two seconds before, it's just good TV.

1044
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: Man.

1045
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: It's just regardless for sure, everybody speaking to their survivor legacy.

1046
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: Be honest, were you standing up? Were you getting excited

1047
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: when our boy Wendel was in the lead there.

1048
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he's gonna come and pull off the miracle

1049
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 6: to come back one comeback? Yeah, it's like happy Michelle

1050
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 6: won that challenge. Natalie, Sorry, sorry Natalie Nadali. Oh yeah,

1051
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 6: because Natalie. No, because Natalie had all the head start,

1052
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 6: but then she got herself tangled. She couldn't even I

1053
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 6: thought she's going to blow it here. And then yeah,

1054
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 6: Wenda was there, and I thought, yes, it's like it's

1055
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 6: like watching a horse come down the straet. You're like, finally,

1056
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 6: I'm gonna win this one. And then Natalie pulled off

1057
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 6: the victory out of nowhere. So yeah, I was bummed

1058
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 6: that Wendell wasn't able to get back into the game.

1059
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 6: But I mean, ultimately, I wonder even if he had,

1060
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 6: how much longer he would have lasted anyway, you know,

1061
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 6: maybe he would have only just come in and been

1062
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 6: voted because he wouldn't have had a right Yeah exactly. Yeah,

1063
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 6: so it would have been tough for him. But yeah,

1064
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 6: it was.

1065
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 5: It was.

1066
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 6: It was well put together last night. I enjoyed the journey.

1067
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 6: I enjoyed the emotional ride because you know, you were

1068
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 6: up and down, and you were you know, it was

1069
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 6: playing on your heartstrings there for a while and U

1070
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 6: and then obviously you know Tony winning in the end

1071
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 6: with his family and his kids there as well, Like

1072
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 6: that was a pretty special moment, even though I was

1073
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 6: actually pulling for Michelle or Natalie to win, but but Tony,

1074
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 6: Tony did well, and you know, it was it was

1075
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 6: a fun end. It was a fun end to what's

1076
00:51:58,760 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 6: been a fun series.

1077
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: What did JD what'd you think of Jeff Prope's remote

1078
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: reunion or his set up in the garage. We didn't

1079
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: see a lot of it, and I was thankful for

1080
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: that because you know, like in the finale we go

1081
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: back to Jeff Propes like twenty times usually yeah, you know,

1082
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: live in a in a studio in California.

1083
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 5: But I definitely like the part where he said you're

1084
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 5: not going to be seeing me again for a while. Thanks, Jar,

1085
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 5: Like yes, sweet.

1086
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was great. They did a

1087
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: great job of putting putting together the set. He was

1088
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 4: given instructions doing yourself, instructions on how to assemble it,

1089
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: and he set up the cameras all nice. And I

1090
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 4: guarantee you that that wide shot where we see the

1091
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: set and we see his bikes there, the director or

1092
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 4: the producers whoever, is like, hey man, you got to

1093
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: put something in there to make it look like a garage,

1094
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 4: because you keep saying it's a garage and it just

1095
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,479
Speaker 4: looks like a big old empty room. So get those

1096
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 4: bikes in there with Hey, put a helmet on the

1097
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 4: on the handlebar as well, because you know, safety first

1098
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: and all that is that?

1099
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 3: Is that why he called it his sports earpiece?

1100
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1101
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what he was.

1102
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 5: That was weird, just my every day ear piece that

1103
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 5: I used for sports. I totally like sports.

1104
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: When he works out, he uses that as his earpiece,

1105
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 3: and so in turn, that's his sports earpieces what I

1106
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 3: got from Yeah, yeah.

1107
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: I found that very specific too. I was like, why

1108
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: did you have to say that.

1109
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 4: They showed us a shot of Well, sorry, they didn't,

1110
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: but Jeff posted a picture of the of a flatbed

1111
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 4: truck with the crates of all the stuff that that

1112
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 4: that was there. But hey, next time producers send some

1113
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 4: sound baffling, just put something off on the walls there

1114
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 4: because it was a little echoe. It sounds a little

1115
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: bit a little bit like this podcast at times bikes.

1116
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: Did he even have a mic on or was using

1117
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: the camera mic? It sounded so.

1118
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, great question, great question.

1119
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 6: What about even when we got Jeff and Jeans at

1120
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,439
Speaker 6: the start, like he looked he looked tiny in those Janes.

1121
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 6: He looked like he looked like it when Kramer puts

1122
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 6: on jeans, you know, and it's just like you. I mean, listen, Jeff,

1123
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 6: you're in Los Angeles, so it's not cold, you know,

1124
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 6: and you're trying to set the setup like you're on

1125
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 6: the beach still. So it just bug on a pair

1126
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 6: of jeans, a pair of shorts. Man, you'll be fine.

1127
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 4: But you should see what he usually wears. It's usually

1128
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 4: a tight blacks sweater showing off his pecks.

1129
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, those were his everyday jeans that he usually

1130
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 5: wears for sports.

1131
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: We well, so we did get one quick shot and

1132
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, where's this going to go tonight?

1133
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: We got one quick shot of all twenty you know, contestants,

1134
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: castaways whatever on the zoom call. Right there was that

1135
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: one little thing and I'm like, oh boy, this is good.

1136
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: We're going to so we are going to get a

1137
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 1: reunion like this. We're going to get a zoom reunion

1138
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: and we're on the street. Is that was the plan.

1139
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: And they sent all the equipment out to all of

1140
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: them and everything had it all set up, and then

1141
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: they were like this sucks, Like, just scrap this because

1142
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: this is going to be horrible, and that was the

1143
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,280
Speaker 1: right decision. That would have been so bad. You imagine

1144
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: Jeff Probes trying to ask them questions with the zoom

1145
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: delay and all that. I know they probably would have

1146
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: cleaned it up and post a little bit, but like, oh,

1147
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 1: that would have been Yeah. I'm so happy they made

1148
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: the decision just to like literally give us one minute

1149
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: of talking to the final three.

1150
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 4: I mean, they obviously had some sort of technical problem

1151
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 4: with just the three of them because when we saw Tony,

1152
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: when we saw them, we were reading the votes, we

1153
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 4: saw the three of them were basically on Skype. But

1154
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 4: then but then Jeff calls out when Tony had won,

1155
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, let's get it. Let's get a nice

1156
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 4: clean shot of the black Os family. And they go

1157
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 4: to this beautiful HD shot that's right next to the

1158
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 4: Skype camera. So why weren't they using that the whole time?

1159
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: Is just so something must have been going on, so

1160
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 4: who knows what it is, but I don't know.

1161
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but good decision in the end, just to

1162
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: give us more survivor less of the reunion show. No,

1163
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: I will say I would love to see like a

1164
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: reunion show in the future with everybody who Yeah, but

1165
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: he can get back. That'd be sort of cool.

1166
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 4: Just do next season like that, you know, like just

1167
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 4: they just kicked off the new season with a reunion.

1168
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I was so fascinated with this season. I

1169
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 4: could take a ten episode Last Dance style documentary, just

1170
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 4: a deep dive into into every single episode or at

1171
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: least going back as far as before the game and

1172
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 4: who had alliances with whom as they were coming into

1173
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 4: the game, because that definitely played into what was happening

1174
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 4: and all the baggage that people brought into the game

1175
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 4: and just the ins and outs and all the footage

1176
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 4: that we didn't see. I think that would be fascinating. Yeah,

1177
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 4: I thing to do next fall when there's there's maybe

1178
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 4: no survivor.

1179
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and going into those alliances coming into it. Going

1180
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 3: back to the final tribal council, I think our man

1181
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 3: Wendell tried to set out Michelle for her to hit

1182
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: it out of the park. They had that relationship beforehand.

1183
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 3: Then he asked her, why did why do you think

1184
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 3: you should win this game? I mean, he really served

1185
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: it up to her, and I don't think she banged

1186
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 3: it out of the park, per se But you're right.

1187
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 3: I think those those alliances, they definitely play a monstrous part.

1188
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: We need. We need at least a six to seven

1189
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: to eight episode BT.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to.

1191
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Speaker 5: And forth you can go to like the Yeah, last

1192
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 5: torch is great, the final tribal.

1193
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Speaker 1: Mmm, god, I love these ideas. All right, before we

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Speaker 1: All right, we got a question from Steven. Hello, no

1220
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: fire Tokens. With a wonderful fortieth season coming to a close,

1221
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: there are questions about when the forty first season will

1222
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: happen and what will be the defining twist. Third times

1223
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,479
Speaker 1: the charm for returning competitors. Maybe a Blood versus Water

1224
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: Part three another Millennials, but this time versus gen Z.

1225
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: So my question is what would be your ideal forty

1226
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: first season twist? This could also make for a squad idea. Now,

1227
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: this is good. We gotta write this down draft a

1228
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: Survivor location, a title or basis for the show. The

1229
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: in season twists. Maybe it's four tribes, no merge, new idols, whatever,

1230
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: a returning player you would want back, and of course

1231
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: a former NBA journeyman to compete. Wait, that is a

1232
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 1: good idea. That's a good future. Squad will survive ever twist,

1233
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: y'all are the best. Hope you're staying well again, that's

1234
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: from Steven Now you said there, JD. You're a little

1235
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: a little skeptical we even get a forty first or

1236
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: when we get a forty first season of Survivor. But

1237
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: Jeff probes last night he said it is coming, yeah,

1238
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: in the fall. He said that, uh so so, uh

1239
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, that's good news. A little perplexing, uh, I mean,

1240
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: are they gonna be able to travel?

1241
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 2: Like?

1242
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: Who knows? Who knows? Maybe it's done here in America.

1243
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: I know, Rob and Rob Sesmerino has been talking about

1244
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 1: Survivor Wild Wild West and he wants he wants Wow,

1245
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: which is really funny. It sounds silly at first, and

1246
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: it is. I mean these always generally sounds silly, but

1247
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: like he's proposing an idea if you can't travel because

1248
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: of the virus, like do it somewhere in in you know,

1249
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: the middle of America and go with like a crazy

1250
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: like frontier theme.

1251
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't hate it.

1252
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: I don't hate There'd be no water. That was the

1253
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: first thing Nora said to me. She's like, yeah, but

1254
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: there'd be no really water challenges. I was like, eh,

1255
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they go mining for gold or

1256
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: something like that. But anyway, it's a fun question here

1257
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: from Steven. What would be an ideal twist you'd like

1258
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: to see in the forty first season or moving forward?

1259
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 4: Well, this being an election year, they would never do this,

1260
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 4: but I would like to see Survivor battleground states Democrats

1261
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 4: versus Republicans.

1262
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1263
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 4: And here's the twist. At the merge, you have to

1264
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 4: be elected for immunity, so the remaining players, rather than

1265
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 4: vote somebody out before tribal council, they actually have to

1266
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 4: vote somebody to have immunity, which I think would really

1267
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 4: sort of put a whole wrench into the game and

1268
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 4: put a huge target on your back, Like would you

1269
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: campaign for those votes to get immunity? Or do you

1270
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 4: not want that immunity because as the next vote, you

1271
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 4: would be immediately voted off it, like you would automatically

1272
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 4: be the most popular person at the merge, so that

1273
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 4: it could be interesting.

1274
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: Huh. I don't mind that twist. I don't know about Yeah,

1275
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: the Republicans versus Democrats, if we're ever going to see that, but.

1276
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 5: Red buffs versus Blue buffs.

1277
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I like that. I like there's something

1278
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: to that twist for sure. Okay, that's good. Anybody else

1279
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: have anything?

1280
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 5: I want to bench every season forty player for at

1281
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 5: least five years and then bring them back in five

1282
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 5: years when they're old for an old timer season, Like

1283
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 5: I don't want to see Boston Rob again until he

1284
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 5: is one, you know what I'm saying.

1285
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, survivor legit old school.

1286
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 5: Old people, that's what it's called.

1287
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I don't mind that. Uh tass and

1288
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: uh Lee. I know you guys are new to the game.

1289
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: But anything you'd like to see as a season twist?

1290
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 6: Uh? Halfway through the season, there's no actually voting for

1291
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 6: someone to come off. Instead, what happens is it's a

1292
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 6: raffle and you pull a name out and that person

1293
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 6: gets to decide who gets kicked off. So it's like yeah,

1294
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 6: so then so then it's like, let's say, you know,

1295
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 6: Michelle gets pulled out and then she has to just

1296
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 6: eliminate someone that night, and she in front of everybody,

1297
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 6: she says, you know, right, you're poverty, you're out, like

1298
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 6: something like that.

1299
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so just super this weird super power. Yeah exactly, Yeah,

1300
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: particular part in the game.

1301
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 6: Yeah. So then so then you can't you know, people

1302
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 6: trying to build alliances and trying to work together, I'm

1303
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 6: going to vote this person or that person or whatever. Instead,

1304
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 6: it's just someone has ultimate power to just say that's it,

1305
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 6: you're gone. So if you wanted to get rid of

1306
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 6: one of the you know, power players, you could, or

1307
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 6: if you just wanted to get rid of someone and

1308
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 6: you didn't like, you could do it that way.

1309
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: So you know, let's go next level with this. Let's

1310
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: say at some point in the game, you get to

1311
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: become Jeff Probs, right, and Proes has to come into

1312
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: the game as you that's the ultimate twist.

1313
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 5: Man, Let Jeff Pros play. Let's see if he can

1314
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 5: survive for even.

1315
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: One tribal oh wow, or Yeah. I mean there's so

1316
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: many people that work on this show. It's like what,

1317
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: like Jeff said, like four hundred people like and a

1318
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: lot of them have worked on the show for a

1319
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, let's take twenty of like the actual

1320
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: people that make Survivor and see if they can play

1321
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: their own game.

1322
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 4: I like that.

1323
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: God, that'd be sick and like of all facets, right,

1324
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: Like there's someone that just does grip, and there's an

1325
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: associate producer, and there's probes and there's like cameramon whatever,

1326
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: that'd be pretty cool task. Anything come to.

1327
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 3: Mind, Well, like our man Adam tried to pull off

1328
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 3: at the tribal council looking for the idol, why not

1329
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 3: have an idol hidden at every tribal council and somebody

1330
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 3: gets like five minutes to find it. You got a

1331
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 3: timer and uh you get it. You gotta hop around

1332
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 3: and look for it.

1333
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 4: And why not?

1334
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're well, I think they did it

1335
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 1: on Survival Australia, but that there is an idol at

1336
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: actually tribal council. I think we're going to see that.

1337
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: We talked about that the time. We're gonn see that

1338
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: in the American version. That is a cool idea to

1339
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: just place it there somewhere. It should be in Jeff

1340
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: Prope's cargo pants pockets. Yeah, frisk them down, all right? Well,

1341
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 1: thank you for that email, Steven. You know a couple

1342
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: more questions as we wrap this up our final note

1343
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 1: buffs here, we'll go with Tasin Lee first. You know again,

1344
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: you guys are the first time you've ever watched this show.

1345
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 1: It sounds like you guys enjoyed it for the most part.

1346
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: You guys brought a lot of energy to this. You

1347
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: had a lot of questions. I know Lee struggled keeping

1348
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: track of people a lot of the time, But are

1349
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: you guys like Lee?

1350
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 5: Are you?

1351
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 1: Are you hooked like? I mean, are you going to

1352
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: watch future season survivor You're gonna go back and watch

1353
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: old ones? Like how much how much of a fan

1354
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:43,959
Speaker 1: have you become?

1355
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 6: No, I'm not gonna go back and watch old ones.

1356
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 6: I mean as long as there's no basketball, and I'll

1357
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 6: definitely watch the next season for sure, although although I'll

1358
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 6: probably be a bit like JD. I might miss the

1359
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 6: first couple of shows like it's the regular season and

1360
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 6: pick it up about where I picked it up last time.

1361
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 6: I wait for JD say, this is the week to

1362
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 6: get into it, because I felt that when Tass and

1363
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 6: I jumped in there was some momentum, and it was

1364
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 6: and it was already there was and probably was one

1365
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 6: of the best episodes of our first one. So that

1366
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 6: was a good thing. So I'm not sure I could

1367
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 6: sit through an entire season of it. I think I'd

1368
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 6: let it. I'd let it mellow a little bit there.

1369
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 6: But I really enjoyed it. I felt that I got

1370
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 6: into the characters, and you know, I loved someone week

1371
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 6: and hated them the next, and then I had my

1372
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 6: guys and my girls and everyone. One question, by the

1373
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 6: way I saw it briefly there, how did Tony catch

1374
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 6: a shark? I mean baller move right there?

1375
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 3: A shark?

1376
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 4: I know it was.

1377
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 6: I know it was a you know, relatively small one,

1378
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 6: but those ones can still they'd take a finger off

1379
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 6: if you you know, if you got it.

1380
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 1: But how did that happen? You just can't it like

1381
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: it was in a net or something, or was in

1382
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: Charlotte later, right, he just picked it up by thing.

1383
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 6: Wow, Yeah, I mean that's pretty good, but yeah, overall

1384
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 6: really fun. The thing is I also saw a field

1385
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 6: now connected to these people. So if if I was

1386
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 6: to watch another one, I'd sort of want them to

1387
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 6: come back and just play it again, you know, run

1388
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 6: it back.

1389
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would think that, you would think that, Lee,

1390
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 1: But actually there's there's a lot of fun in meeting

1391
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: new characters too. Yeah, and you, I mean, you get

1392
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 1: some duds, no doubt, but then you get like three,

1393
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: four or five in a season of just like new

1394
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: crazy characters, you quickly become attached to them. You'd be surprised,

1395
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: right right.

1396
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, maybe they could sprinkle in a couple of

1397
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 6: the old ones, you know, a couple of my favorites, and.

1398
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: They do that a lot. Yeah, I do that a lot.

1399
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 4: I'm talking forward to a season where it's all newbies.

1400
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 4: After the season. Yeah, I really enjoyed this season, but

1401
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 4: I want new people, new blood.

1402
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think it will be for Survivor forty one.

1403
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure, but my gud says

1404
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: it will. Task the same questions really as Lee, there

1405
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 1: are you in? Are you hooked? Man? Well?

1406
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 3: For sure, maybe it was a bit of a mistake

1407
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 3: getting us in. You guys should have just told us

1408
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 3: to get in a few years ago or something. But

1409
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 3: we should it getting in here on in forty with

1410
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 3: all these kings and queens, and now it's gonna be

1411
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 3: a bit of a downfall after this, you know. Like

1412
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 3: but I you know, I do. I am into the

1413
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: new characters. I want I totally want that. I think

1414
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 3: we got to start at the beginning of the season

1415
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 3: because we basically jumped in right right mid midway here.

1416
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 3: And when you look back at Tony's game, it does

1417
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: seem like he was just this overbearing kind of character,

1418
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 3: type of type of player from my perspective, because that's

1419
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: what he did in the in the second half of this,

1420
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 3: but he was definitely because of everybody who freaking liked him.

1421
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 3: He was definitely the quiet dude for the first half

1422
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: of the season because you know, if you just watched

1423
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 3: the second half, you think, you know, this guy's an asshole.

1424
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: How the hell he stabbed so many people in the back.

1425
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 3: But so you got to pick it up right from

1426
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,719
Speaker 3: the beginning, get the whole picture. But yeah, I'm into Listen,

1427
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: I'm definitely into the all all the emotional part of it.

1428
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 3: I mean, as silly as the game is, you hear

1429
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: everybody say it. I think Jeremy put it best. He said,

1430
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 3: you don't have to win a million dollars. This game

1431
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 3: changes everyone's life. So it definitely it ropes you in.

1432
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 3: And I mean that was the line that wrote me

1433
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 3: in where that just describes it the best. But the

1434
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 3: thing that pissed me off the most was Tony also

1435
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 3: in that it was supposed to be a feel good segment.

1436
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: He said, Listen, this is so crazy for me. I

1437
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: don't even leave my city. This is like whoa exploring

1438
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 3: the world? Tony doesn't leave his city. I mean, what

1439
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: what you have millions of dollars and you don't leave

1440
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 3: your city. Come on, Tony, don't be a VLAJO. Let's

1441
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:48,440
Speaker 3: get out of there man. Anyway, Yeah, I'm hooked.

1442
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: All right. Well, yeah, except, like you said, there is

1443
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,719
Speaker 1: some worry that you basically watched the equivalent of going

1444
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: to your first basketball game being Game seven Kawhi hitting

1445
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: the shot versus the Sixers. Yeah, totally, Yeah, there definitely

1446
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 1: is some concern. I've thought about that too. You guys

1447
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: came into obviously a juggernaut of the season here.

1448
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 5: So but yeah, I think of it the Lee Ellis way.

1449
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 5: This is like you just your first basketball game you

1450
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 5: ever saw was the nineteen eighty seven All Star Game.

1451
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1452
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, The important part is you don't want to go

1453
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 3: with Slam Dunk Contest next year and see Zach Lavine

1454
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 3: again and again and again, Like let's let's get some

1455
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 3: new blood in there and it'll feel different.

1456
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: Well, Trey JD, what'd you think of the season overall?

1457
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: As we wrap this up, start with you, Trey and

1458
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: if you want to, you know, where do you rank

1459
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: it all time? I know that's not easy to do,

1460
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: but what's your overall impression from this season?

1461
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: Well?

1462
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 5: First of all, a few minor things that I really

1463
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 5: liked from last night's episode. That spinning ball challenge they

1464
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 5: had for the final Immunity Challenge. I love that one. Right.

1465
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 5: If I ever were to be on it, I would

1466
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 5: want that to be one of the challenges. It looks

1467
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 5: just so like you would have to get into a

1468
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 5: trance state. And you know, Natalie was making these incredible

1469
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 5: like Domini Kashik one handed saves. That was awesome. I

1470
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 5: also loved seeing they were doing demonstration of the challenges

1471
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 5: and one of the Dream Team did a cannon ball.

1472
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 5: I was like, how does nobody ever do any flair

1473
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 5: when they're jumping off this. I'm sure you're competing, so

1474
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 5: you're trying to do it as fast, but come on,

1475
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 5: you can throw it out a quick seaball. And then

1476
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 5: the last thing I noticed that really hit home for

1477
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 5: me as somebody that's on no dunks was that final

1478
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 5: breakfast that they're eating before the final three. First of all,

1479
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 5: they're cooking eggs. I'm like, Skeets must be loving this.

1480
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 5: I wonder how he's cooking his eggs out there. But

1481
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 5: even crazier, they were grilling bacon over and open fire.

1482
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 5: But you'll notice they had a cast iron griddle. Yeah,

1483
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 5: they were just throwing it out there. You gotta have

1484
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:44,440
Speaker 5: a flat surface. Yeah, And honestly, that bacon looked pretty floppy.

1485
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have it fell as day

1486
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 6: thirty nine or whatever they're at, and that's the sort

1487
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 6: of setup they have. I probably would have said pushed

1488
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 6: back a little bit and say, can I just someone

1489
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 6: just wheel out the webbit here? I'll do it myself.

1490
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: Come on, I've whited all this.

1491
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 6: But also you've been out in the sun and the

1492
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 6: heat for all those days. And then they start popping

1493
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 6: champagne first thing in the morning, like you would have

1494
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 6: passed out like it's you know, you kind of just

1495
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 6: guzzle it straight away like that you've got to ease

1496
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 6: into it. But I also had an idea. I think

1497
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 6: there's a theme park, a water park, a Survivor idea

1498
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 6: where they just put all the challenges in there. It

1499
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 6: looked so much fun.

1500
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: Lee, I've talked about this before. I'm almost shocked they

1501
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: don't have the taper place somewhere that you can go

1502
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: and play challenges for sure, like it would be. It

1503
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: would be such a fun like Bachelor or Bachelorette take vibe,

1504
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: like to do.

1505
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,640
Speaker 4: It like Tough Mater sort of stuff they've done, like

1506
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 4: activations like there's there's there's a couple of challenges you

1507
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 4: can do. Because a permanent spot would be awesome.

1508
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 6: Can you imagine the you know, there's there's a Rick

1509
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 6: the cameraman. I'm sure on the Survivor crew. You can

1510
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 6: imagine once they had that little water slide set up,

1511
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 6: he was going up and down that thing all day.

1512
01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 6: I guarantee it probably with.

1513
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 5: The guys that Rick the cameraman out there.

1514
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 6: That has to be that has to be a Rick

1515
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 6: the cameraman on.

1516
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: So j D again. Final question here. Really, what do

1517
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: you think of the season overall? And I guess if

1518
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 1: are we locking Tony in onto the Mount Rushmore? Like

1519
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: we're chiseling him on right, Like that's oh yeah, yeah?

1520
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: So who is it? Is it him? Boston, Rob, Sandra

1521
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 1: and Poverty? Is that the four that's on the Mount

1522
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 1: Rushmore survivor?

1523
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 6: Yes?

1524
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 4: Sanders a little tarnished because she she quit the Edge

1525
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 4: of Extinction, but she's still there. Come on, she won twice. Yeah,

1526
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 4: she's the queen. But yeah, Tony's up there? Is it's

1527
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 4: Tony the greatest of all time? I mean, recency bias,

1528
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 4: but yes he is. He won three million dollars playing this.

1529
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, you'd have to convince me very

1530
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 4: very very hard that he's not the greatest of all time.

1531
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 4: It's so hard, though, because every season is so different.

1532
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 4: So this is like the eighty seven All Star Game.

1533
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 6: Finally it's all coming to get the bar hi and

1534
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 6: to go on a trip and we'll go down and

1535
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 6: interview a couple of these players together.

1536
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now we're talking ranked of all time again, recency bias.

1537
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 4: It's in my top five for sure, I mean, and

1538
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 4: it went up because I would have put it in

1539
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 4: my top ten last night before the episode before the finale.

1540
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 4: But I really really loved this finale. This is by

1541
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 4: far my favorite finale that I've watched. And maybe it's

1542
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 4: because the two women that I was rooting for did very,

1543
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 4: very very well, So that's that's always exciting when your

1544
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 4: team is winning. But yeah, I would say top five,

1545
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 4: top five season of all time out of forty.

1546
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 5: Before this podcast, I would have had it top ten,

1547
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 5: but not top five. But JD, honestly, you've convinced me

1548
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 5: because this season is all about friendship and relationships, and

1549
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 5: we were able to even build our own friendship and

1550
01:14:55,840 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 5: relationships by finally roping Tacit Lee into watching hours and

1551
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,919
Speaker 5: hours of Survivor and hearing the delight in their voices.

1552
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 5: I felt like Ben giving up my role in the

1553
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 5: game just to hear them talking about Survivor.

1554
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 4: Not just Tass and Lee, the No Dunks fans who

1555
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 4: have written in totally. So many have just said, wow,

1556
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 4: I've never watched it before, but now I'm hooked. I

1557
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 4: love this show. Thank you so much.

1558
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 6: So Yeah, the only thing I'm disappointed was I couldn't

1559
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 6: wear my buff during these episodes. That was you know,

1560
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 6: that's like putting on your jersey, you know, watching So

1561
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 6: I can't wait to get back into the Not Dunk's office.

1562
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 6: First thing I'm doing is grabbing that and I'm wearing it.

1563
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 6: I just it's going to be exciting and we're got

1564
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 6: to get Wendell back on. I want in on this

1565
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 6: next podcast.

1566
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: Okay for sure. Thanks for we do that. Yeah, thank

1567
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: you so much to everybody that decided to listen to

1568
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: us do a Survivor recap podcast. I know it's a

1569
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: little unique for us, but we've had a lot of fun.

1570
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: It was something we talked about for years, especially JD

1571
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: Tray and I like, oh, we should do it. All

1572
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: we did, I mean Lee and Task. No, this is

1573
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: basically what we would do for I don't know, twenty

1574
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,679
Speaker 1: to thirty minutes every Thursday morning before we actually recorded

1575
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: our NBA podcast. So it's nice to finally put it

1576
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 1: to MP three form and have you guys listen and

1577
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: chime in. And it's been cool to see a lot

1578
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: of people, like you said, JD tweet in and say,

1579
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never watched Survivor, but I thought

1580
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: i'd give it a go. And now people are like

1581
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, I'm looked, I'm going back.

1582
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 1: I'm watching all these seasons. Where should I go next?

1583
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: What characters should I fall in love with? So it's

1584
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 1: been pretty cool. And I will say, we got to

1585
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: use that to our advantage. If one of us do

1586
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 1: ever try and get on Survivor, put that on the resume,

1587
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 1: put that in the video. Right. We gotta tell Jeff

1588
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 1: Probes we're making fans out here. I'm sure he would

1589
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: love that. So we'll use it to our vand but

1590
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening, guys. Tomorrow, on Friday,

1591
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 1: we got a brand new film session. We're reviewing the

1592
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six basketball movie Eddie, starring Whoopee Goldberg. So

1593
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: do your homework tonight watch Eddie and we'll break it

1594
01:16:54,479 --> 01:17:04,440
Speaker 1: down on Friday. Until next time, the tribe is spoken.

1595
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 6: The fetiste.

1596
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 5: It const