WEBVTT - How Lighthouses Work

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know fromhouse Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, Jerry over there, and this is the Lighthouse

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<v Speaker 1>episode Take one. Uh. Can I just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>say that I love lighthouses? Do you love love already before?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you fell in love with them and researching both

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<v Speaker 1>like if I'm I grew up going to Honey Island,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, not every year, but we went quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few times here Buford and they have a lighthouse and

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of my favorite things to do as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, was climbing the lighthouse. And I would I

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm near a lighthouse now ever, I will go

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<v Speaker 1>climate but outside. I will seek it out and then

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<v Speaker 1>shimmy up the outside like Spider Man. Um. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>will seek it out and go look at it and

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<v Speaker 1>then climb it and um this article just made me

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<v Speaker 1>love it even more. I have a precious memories lighthouse

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<v Speaker 1>to marble Head Lighthouse near Kataba Island, which is where

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<v Speaker 1>what state by Sandusky in Ohio on Lake Erie. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was the same thing when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>We used to go vacation on Kataba Island, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>we would go to that lighthouse every once a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember ever going inside, though it might not

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<v Speaker 1>have been open, because there's no reason why you would

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<v Speaker 1>go to a lighthouse more than once and not go

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<v Speaker 1>inside climb it up. I don't remember every going in,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe you're just like, yeah, it looks nice from

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<v Speaker 1>down here. Yeah, I would have climbed it. I was

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<v Speaker 1>a climber. Yeah, me too. Um. But I think the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that factors in for me is I found

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<v Speaker 1>I really love antiquated systems that could still be viable. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like post apocalypse, you could fire up lighthouses again, you

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<v Speaker 1>know fire yeah, and it would work. Yeah, it would.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a weird thing with me that

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<v Speaker 1>I love. I love stuff that's still around that you

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<v Speaker 1>could use if if need be. You know, I've never

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<v Speaker 1>really looked at my environment that way, like to see

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<v Speaker 1>what it was going to be standing after an apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should. Well I don't know about standing, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's just let's say there was some weird domino effect

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<v Speaker 1>type thing like that movie where electricity and internet and

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<v Speaker 1>everything went out and people turned on each other. You

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<v Speaker 1>could still light a lighthouse and fos could find their

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<v Speaker 1>safe harbor. What movie are you talking about the domino effect? Oh? Really,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a movie like that called that. Yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. I think it was called with Elizabeth Shoo

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<v Speaker 1>and agent Agent Cooper from Twin Peaks Kyle what's his face? McLaughlin?

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<v Speaker 1>And he is so great? Is the mare um Portlandia? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>He is good. I love that guy. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>called a domino effect. If not, that was the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially what happened there was a domino effect like a blackout, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that just like and it created a domino effected things

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<v Speaker 1>kind of spun out of control. You're talking about Fury Road, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So uh, Chuck. I love lighthouses too, but I knew

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<v Speaker 1>virtually nothing about them until researching this. And um, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about them though, it's like you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>after the apocalypse, you'll still they'll still be standing. You

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<v Speaker 1>just need to replace the electricity with a fire and

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<v Speaker 1>then you'd have basically what lighthouses have always been, which

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<v Speaker 1>is some sort of highly visible signal. For most of

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<v Speaker 1>the time, it was a fire, either a wood fire,

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<v Speaker 1>coal fire, tar fire. Um that you could see that

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<v Speaker 1>was meant to signal to ships that hey man, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some treacherous waters around here. It's one of the main

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<v Speaker 1>things that they did. And as the light got better

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<v Speaker 1>and better. One of the roles that um, lighthouses play

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<v Speaker 1>was not just to say careful in this area. We

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<v Speaker 1>went to the trouble building a lighthouse here because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so treacherous. But also check out these rocks. See this

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<v Speaker 1>with this light, there's some rocks there. Yeah, like literally

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<v Speaker 1>lighting up a harbor. Yeah. Um, well, because there was

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<v Speaker 1>no light otherwise. Right. And then um, the other role

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<v Speaker 1>that they play is in the daytime, right, because lighthouses

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that they actually keep them on twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours a day, highly inefficient. On a cloudy day,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's foggy, they'll turn it on and start sounding

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<v Speaker 1>the fog horns, which we'll talk about. But um, for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part in the daytime, it's off. But a

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<v Speaker 1>lighthouse still serves a purpose during the day because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't decorate them the way that they decorate them just

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<v Speaker 1>for looks. They do it so you can differentiate one

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<v Speaker 1>lighthouse from another. Yeah, Like this one looks like a

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<v Speaker 1>barber pole. So I'm near north Carolina is exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's like a whole book called the light List

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<v Speaker 1>where it has pictures of them and if you get

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<v Speaker 1>your hands on that. I meant to look it up

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<v Speaker 1>but ran out of time. I'll bet it's neat. I

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<v Speaker 1>bet it's neat too. By the way, that movie is

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<v Speaker 1>called the Trigger Effect. I have heard of that one.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a movie called the Domino Effect, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the same one. What about the butterfly effects? Remember

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<v Speaker 1>that garbage that was the couch? Right? Yeah? Man? Why

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<v Speaker 1>does he haunt us? I don't know. It comes up

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, all right. Where were we were we in

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<v Speaker 1>the lighthouse? We were talking about the day mark? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty neat. But there's also what's called the light signature, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>where that's um, that's we're going back to nighttime again.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye sorry version the sun's going up and down, the

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<v Speaker 1>lights off. It got weird. It is a little weird. Sorry, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>are you still here? So? Um? At night the light

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<v Speaker 1>has its own flashing signature, light signature, and that's also

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<v Speaker 1>in the light book too, And there's actually a number

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<v Speaker 1>of different ways that a light can flash, right, who knew?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know you've got the fixed and that is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, if you just have a light on saying

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<v Speaker 1>we're open. Yeah, it shines continuously, come on in, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the waffle house. You have the occulting light. I love

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<v Speaker 1>this one, the creepiest of all lights. Uh. It has

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<v Speaker 1>longer periods of light than dark. Um. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>flashes six six six uh, And a flashing light has

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<v Speaker 1>longer periods of dark than light. So occulting and flashing

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<v Speaker 1>or just sort of inverse of one another, there are

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<v Speaker 1>two sides of the same coin. That's right. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>have light without the dark is the whole premise. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you have the isophase light that's equal light and

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<v Speaker 1>dark with its uh signature blips, and then a group

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<v Speaker 1>flashing light super seventies. Yeah, it has a regular repeating

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<v Speaker 1>number of flashing lights. It's the same pattern, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's actually really famous one of those, um, the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnot's Ledge light in Boston. It was very famously known

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<v Speaker 1>as I think it still is that I Love you

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<v Speaker 1>light because of a flash one, then we flash four,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we flash three, so I l O V

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<v Speaker 1>E y O U. So it was like a very

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<v Speaker 1>romantic light. That's how people took it. I didn't make

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<v Speaker 1>that up. Oh see, I thought it was I hate

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<v Speaker 1>cal it could. That's the secondary way that it's known.

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<v Speaker 1>The people Boston are known for their soft side. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why I love you. Yeah, they're prone to

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<v Speaker 1>break into sobs and the public on the street frequently

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<v Speaker 1>just walking around thinking about the beauty of life. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>And hey, Boston, we'll see you this fall at the

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<v Speaker 1>Wilbur Theater. I think it's still available. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to work that in nice um. And then finally we

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<v Speaker 1>have our alternating I'm sorry. We have the Morse code um,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what it sounds like. It It mimics Morse

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<v Speaker 1>code with stats and dashes, stats and dooshes. That's Marist

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<v Speaker 1>code dots and dashes man um to spell out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things like I love you. But that's not when Mino's

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<v Speaker 1>ledged does. It's it's just it's just one, four and three,

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<v Speaker 1>and people took it that way. I hate and when

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<v Speaker 1>its ledge, Actually it's pretty awesome to begin with. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's under ten ft of water at high tide and

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<v Speaker 1>they had to build it I think in the nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever the tide was out, so they only had like

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<v Speaker 1>X amount of hours and the day during low tide

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<v Speaker 1>when the ledge was exposed, it's still there. It's tough cookie,

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<v Speaker 1>but josh, these are all sort of modern modern is

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<v Speaker 1>modern ish, but um, although old, they can go back

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<v Speaker 1>to uh what comers Iliad? They mentioned a lighthouse. Yeah, crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean like we're talking basically a huge bonfire

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<v Speaker 1>on a cliff more exactly, you know, not like a well,

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<v Speaker 1>not like Minot's ledge or anything. But the still qualifies

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<v Speaker 1>as a lighthouse. It was the premise behind it, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I founded weirdly defensive just now about that still lighthouse. Yeah. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, you would have like either wood or

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<v Speaker 1>coal burning on a long pole. Uh. And then finally

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighteenth century, um, they started using lanterns, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a little more probably controllable. Yeah. The problem was

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<v Speaker 1>that they kept running into, um was that the oil

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<v Speaker 1>or coal would smudge the lantern, the glass around the lantern,

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<v Speaker 1>and the so the glass top, the whole thing where

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<v Speaker 1>the light is that you can walk around, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the lantern of the lighthouse. And if you're burning a

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<v Speaker 1>coal fire in there, it's gonna get sooty. Pretty quick. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the that's one of the main jobs of

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<v Speaker 1>the lighthouse keepers to watch windows. Um. The problem is

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<v Speaker 1>in between washings, which they did at least once a

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<v Speaker 1>day normally, UM, the light would degrade as the soot

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<v Speaker 1>built up. Uh. So they figured out, oh, we need better,

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<v Speaker 1>better fuel than coal or tar. We thought they used tar.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's burn the dirtiest thing on the plane. Inside. They

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<v Speaker 1>were working with what they had at the time. So

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<v Speaker 1>they figured out, especially in New England, that they could

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<v Speaker 1>um use things like blubber and lard, which they did

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<v Speaker 1>from Wales, burns a lot cleaner. Uh. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>also figured out, hey, you know what this flame is okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but wouldn't it be great pre electricity if we had

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<v Speaker 1>something like electricity to beam this thing out there? For

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<v Speaker 1>miles and miles and a very smart physicists from France

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<v Speaker 1>named Augustine Fresnel. For Nell, I like, Fresnell, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>For Nell said, all right, take my lens and do

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<v Speaker 1>with it what you will, and he invent at the

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<v Speaker 1>Fornell lens. He did and nineteen I'm sorry, eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like what you would think it would be.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bunch of prisms. Um through that through magic

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<v Speaker 1>can cast a beam like twenty something miles out to

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean. It's amazing. They concentrate in the the gather

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<v Speaker 1>light from the top and the bottom and in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle and basically just shoot it all back to a

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<v Speaker 1>single magnifying point. It just goes miles. Yeah. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>that really that changed everything and did a great job

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<v Speaker 1>of handling the load until electricity would come around. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's when everyone was like, you know what, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>need these silly flames anymore. Let's just plug in a light.

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<v Speaker 1>But you can still use it for nell lens with

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<v Speaker 1>the light and it's even brighter like today's modern lighthouses.

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<v Speaker 1>Use um or have produced lights between ten thousand candelas

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<v Speaker 1>and a million Candelas's candela? Did you see this reference? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the worst analogy I've ever run across. What

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<v Speaker 1>did it say? A candela is one two d the

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<v Speaker 1>brightness of a fifty watt light bulb. Oh okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly how much a candela is. I also

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<v Speaker 1>saw that it's roughly the brightness of a candle, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, and that's a much better frame of reference.

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<v Speaker 1>So the brightness of a million candles burning in the

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<v Speaker 1>same place. That's how bright modern lighthouses are, not one

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<v Speaker 1>two bulb. Let's take a break. Yeah, seriously, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>find out who wrote that and write a strongly worded letter.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that got ugly, So we're I feel like we're

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<v Speaker 1>still talking about the history of lighthouses, right yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>well what they were, they were made of wood early

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<v Speaker 1>on um. But the problem with a wooden lighthouse and

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<v Speaker 1>a massive burning fire of tar is that they can

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<v Speaker 1>burn down and be washed out to see, or in

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<v Speaker 1>rough weather it can just be knocked plumb over by waves.

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<v Speaker 1>And but like I said, they used what they had

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and over the years they got sturdier

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<v Speaker 1>and sturdier with steel and concrete and stuff like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>even over even before, over the years before, over the years. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pharisa Alexandria, one of the seven Wonders of the

0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:44.000
<v Speaker 1>ancient world, was this um lighthouse at the mouth of

0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the harbor to Alexandria, Egypt. And it was around I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not quite sure when it was around. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>which one the pharaohs of Alexandria to seventy BC. My friend,

0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.440
<v Speaker 1>that thing was pretty sturdy it took a massive earthquake

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<v Speaker 1>to bring it to It was made of masonry, it

0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.040
<v Speaker 1>wasn't made of wood, you know. So it looks like

0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:07.080
<v Speaker 1>lighthouse construction got dumber as the years went on, and

0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.080
<v Speaker 1>then it got smart again. Then it got smart again.

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<v Speaker 1>It just dipped down in the wood era and then

0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:16.600
<v Speaker 1>came back up. Well. Um, what you you normally have

0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.440
<v Speaker 1>is a lighthouse, which can be just a lighthouse, or

0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.360
<v Speaker 1>there might be uh a fog signal building. There might

0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.520
<v Speaker 1>be a boat house. You might have a little house

0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.240
<v Speaker 1>or apartment attached to it, and you might live there

0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.520
<v Speaker 1>with your family on in a very remote part of

0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:36.240
<v Speaker 1>the world. Um, all by yourself for with a couple

0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of other dudes. Yeah, and take turns and take shifts.

0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:42.240
<v Speaker 1>That's called a stag station. Yeah. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing that appeals to me about lighthouses is I

0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.760
<v Speaker 1>could have lived that life. Oh yeah, yeah I can.

0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I have seen myself dropping out and you got a

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<v Speaker 1>neck beard. Yeah, so you needs like a cable net

0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.600
<v Speaker 1>sweater and living up there all by myself corn cob

0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:02.640
<v Speaker 1>pipe really yeah, throw my own crops and just sit

0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.440
<v Speaker 1>up there and be quiet, no one bugging me. It's

0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:10.360
<v Speaker 1>like it appeals. I did not know that. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not picture you as a lighthousekeeper. I could totally do it,

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<v Speaker 1>or a lightkeeper for short um and um. This is

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that I thought was remarkable in this article.

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<v Speaker 1>You might as well mention it is it. If there

0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:29.600
<v Speaker 1>is a lighthouse near you that nobody operates, it is

0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:38.200
<v Speaker 1>possible that you could own that lighthouse. Yeah. On the

0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:42.960
<v Speaker 1>National Historic Lighthouse Preservation Act of two thousand, it got

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<v Speaker 1>a process together where the coast Guard, which is what

0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:51.520
<v Speaker 1>runs the lighthouse, biz now a lighthouse racket. Um. They

0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you can basically start a nonprofit or have a nonprofit

0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and at no cost they will give you a decommissioned

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<v Speaker 1>lighthouse if you maintain it and keep it open to

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<v Speaker 1>the public. Yeah. For the most part, it's like preservation

0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.920
<v Speaker 1>society in this. But if nobody wants it, they put

0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.280
<v Speaker 1>it up for auction and then you can do what

0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you want to. You can live out my dream and

0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have to do the windows either. I could

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<v Speaker 1>just live up there and be a crusty old hermit.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we could do a Kickstarter to help you

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<v Speaker 1>live out your dream. Chuck, Well, let's let's do a

0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.480
<v Speaker 1>few more years of stuff. You should know first though,

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<v Speaker 1>before you go. Okay, okay, um, all right, so back

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<v Speaker 1>to more modern times. Um, we're building them out of

0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.760
<v Speaker 1>concrete and steel. At this point they're a little more sturdy.

0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.800
<v Speaker 1>You got your little keeper's house. You're not getting paid

0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:49.200
<v Speaker 1>much money. How much money, dude? Not much? So this

0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:53.360
<v Speaker 1>article says that they earned about two annually in the

0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.680
<v Speaker 1>late nineteenth century. I went on to the g wiz

0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:03.680
<v Speaker 1>west Egg inflation calculator for eight in eight that was

0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:08.400
<v Speaker 1>five grand. Today your provisions are covered though, right, Yeah,

0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.080
<v Speaker 1>but at the very least your room is. I don't

0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.359
<v Speaker 1>know about board. I bet you they all the whale

0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.280
<v Speaker 1>ard you can eat. Yeah, no, imagine they take care

0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.160
<v Speaker 1>of stuff because you can't like leave and go shopping

0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.680
<v Speaker 1>like imagine you just have everything shipped to you and

0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:29.280
<v Speaker 1>um again ideal. I love that. Don't have to go out,

0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to spend any money. It's like web van, yeah,

0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.080
<v Speaker 1>coming to you. You're just you're banking that five five

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<v Speaker 1>grand a year essentially. Wow. Man, when you get into

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<v Speaker 1>like lighthouse mode, you're lower in the standards like germanously

0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, man, I'm making five grand. People are bringing

0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.080
<v Speaker 1>me food I don't have to talk to anybody. Yeah,

0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:55.400
<v Speaker 1>that's awesome. It's like your fantasy. That's hilarious. Um. So

0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that lens we were talking about, we we didn't use

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<v Speaker 1>that in the United States for a while because the

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<v Speaker 1>way I read this is we kind of cheaped out

0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.240
<v Speaker 1>when it was being run um by this guy Stephen

0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:13.399
<v Speaker 1>pleasant from for thirty years eight eighteen fifty two, thirty

0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:18.360
<v Speaker 1>two years he ran an efficient, some might say chintzy

0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.200
<v Speaker 1>program to where he was like, you know, we don't

0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:26.600
<v Speaker 1>need those fancy French lenses. Um, take these creddi versions.

0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.639
<v Speaker 1>They probably wouldn't even a lens. It's like a mirror,

0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:34.520
<v Speaker 1>reflector or something. Maybe if that, yeah, maybe a piece

0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.720
<v Speaker 1>of metal at somebody had to just stand behind the

0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:42.080
<v Speaker 1>light with the reflected you're my mute assistant, right quiet.

0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.360
<v Speaker 1>But then finally the US government got involved and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, we need to regulate this. Well, they

0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:55.320
<v Speaker 1>were involved. That's why, Yes, from seventeen sixteen to seventeen

0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:58.879
<v Speaker 1>eighty nine, that was not run by the US government. No,

0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.919
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until alex Andrew Hamilton's almost got in a

0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:06.000
<v Speaker 1>shipwreck off the coast of I think North Carolina, and

0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.600
<v Speaker 1>he went back and said, hey, I think we need

0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 1>some lighthouses. The federal government needs to get involved. And

0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.720
<v Speaker 1>so I think the nineteenth piece of legislation the US

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Congress ever passed was to establish the Lighthouse Board. Uh,

0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the U S Lighthouse Establishment initially is what it was called.

0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:31.400
<v Speaker 1>And you know, socialist program. He said that the federal

0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the federality is going to run this thing, uh and

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:40.359
<v Speaker 1>in charge now. And you know what, things um went downhill? Yeah, improved,

0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:44.160
<v Speaker 1>proved everyone who's critical big government, right. Yeah, But there

0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.000
<v Speaker 1>were a lot of lighthouses at the time. By nineteen hundred,

0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.240
<v Speaker 1>we had about a thousand lighthouses well, and by nineteen

0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:54.720
<v Speaker 1>hundred government had reformed its reputation, Like seriously, the world

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:59.359
<v Speaker 1>ground for the mid nineteenth century, the US governed, the

0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:04.439
<v Speaker 1>US lighthouse system was second rate at best. They just

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.879
<v Speaker 1>had a terrible reputation. And I guess it sounds like

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.959
<v Speaker 1>they got rid of Stephen Pleasant, whose name is basically

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.919
<v Speaker 1>mud these days, and the quality went up. Yeah, and

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that's when they established the Lighthouse Board, which is I

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.840
<v Speaker 1>think what you were thinking to shape things up. In

0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty two, they said let's get some for now

0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 1>lenses for all these lighthouses. Finally, Yeah, we can be

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:30.640
<v Speaker 1>like the rest of the world pleasant stead. Uh. Did

0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.879
<v Speaker 1>you know the Statue of Liberty was a lighthouse. I

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:36.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I knew it, but when I've read it,

0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, yeah, but I don't know if it

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>unlocked some memory or if I'm just like that's just

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>too obvious. Yeah. I was like, surely I knew that, right, right,

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that was it. For fifteen years it was a lighthouse

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:55.560
<v Speaker 1>in New York Harbor, which is pretty neat. And then

0:20:55.640 --> 0:21:02.360
<v Speaker 1>by nineteen thirty, when electricity was effective and rampant, UM,

0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you didn't need these fires burning or candles burning or

0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:08.720
<v Speaker 1>whale blubber. No, but there were a lot of lighthouses

0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>where that were on like islands or on offshore like

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:17.840
<v Speaker 1>ledges like Minnow's Ledge or Eddie Stone in England. UM

0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that were just like the technology to run electricity out

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.200
<v Speaker 1>there just was not around. UM. So they were still

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<v Speaker 1>using oil of various types to to fuel these things

0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 1>well into the twentieth century, into the sixties, UM easily Yeah,

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and they were um still had people working there, um

0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:44.160
<v Speaker 1>living in the lighthouse or on the property. Uh. Into

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties, it was definitely more rare, but um

0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.720
<v Speaker 1>and night. Uh. That's when the Coast Guard brought about

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:56.680
<v Speaker 1>their lighthouse automation and modernization program, and that pretty much

0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 1>dwindled by the end of that decade. It dwindled it

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.920
<v Speaker 1>down to sixty that still had people working there. Yeah,

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.400
<v Speaker 1>sixty out of a thousand. Today, there's one in Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>the Brewster Island, one little bruster, little Brewster Island was

0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.880
<v Speaker 1>refusing him a big Brewster. Well, there might be one

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:17.520
<v Speaker 1>Brewster's Millions Island, little Brewster. That's right. It was the

0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 1>first one in the United States. Uh, seventeen sixteen was

0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.360
<v Speaker 1>when it was built, and then that one was replaced

0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:29.480
<v Speaker 1>in Sight three and it's the second oldest working one

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 1>behind Sandy Hook, New Jersey. Is the right, and the

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.080
<v Speaker 1>person that lives there is basically living there as a

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:41.000
<v Speaker 1>tour guide, not necessarily like guiding boats into harbor, although

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.200
<v Speaker 1>they may do both. No, I think it's still working. Yeah,

0:22:44.200 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 1>well then I guess they do both. I saw modern

0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:51.479
<v Speaker 1>marvels on lighthouses, and they interviewed one of the light

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:55.600
<v Speaker 1>keepers on Brewster Island, little Brewster Island, and he he

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 1>was They showed him like polishing the glass and everything. Yeah,

0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.800
<v Speaker 1>but it's automated. I got delight itself. I see, I see,

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:05.480
<v Speaker 1>so they up keep into our guided right. Okay, but yeah,

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.680
<v Speaker 1>he's still I mean, he's providing a function there. Yeah,

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 1>that's not just show. Maybe I could That's what I

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>could do. That think you should have heard that guy.

0:23:13.200 --> 0:23:16.199
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I can't even begin to do it. But

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 1>he was like a hardcore light keeper in Boston. Yeah,

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I can imagine, although I wouldn't be the best person,

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.399
<v Speaker 1>because Chuck silent lighthouse story isn't really You're just like

0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:30.159
<v Speaker 1>you just sweep your arm in and turn out quietly.

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.680
<v Speaker 1>People ask questions, I just wrap them on the knuckles out.

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 1>All right. I'm getting all excited thinking about the prospects

0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:38.919
<v Speaker 1>of living in a lighthouse. So I'm gonna go do

0:23:38.960 --> 0:24:02.880
<v Speaker 1>some push ups and we'll come back right after this. So, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>say that you did live your life as a lightkeeper,

0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>what would you what would it be like? Mm hmm.

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 1>First of all, what's what's your family background? Uh? Well,

0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 1>my dad was a fisherman. Probably actually my my great

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:23.200
<v Speaker 1>great grandfather was a fisherman. My grandfather was a lightkeeper.

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 1>My dad was a son of a lightkeeper and the

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 1>mom was Akeeper, pirate captain, pirate captain. Like, Gina Davis, Yeah,

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:36.680
<v Speaker 1>that was a good movie. She's awesome. Yeah she uh.

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Jesse Thorne interviewed her recently on his Bull's Eye show.

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:44.000
<v Speaker 1>She's just like the best, and they were all excited

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 1>in the office. Everyone was like, oh, man, Gina Davis

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>is the coolest she uh. Supposedly was known for bringing

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>cookies to that she baked herself two interviews. Yeah, she's

0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a MENSA member. Yeah, I got a lot going on there.

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Julius Smith, who works at the maximun HQ and produces

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Don Hodgman, said on her Facebook she was like,

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:08.240
<v Speaker 1>Gina Davis is like the coolest aunt of all cool aunts. Yes,

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:10.159
<v Speaker 1>she was in Beetle Juice. I mean like, yeah, it

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:12.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't get much cooler than that. She could she could

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:14.920
<v Speaker 1>just be a total jerk and she was still awesome

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and Beetle Juice. Um. So, anyway, hats off to Eugena Tavis.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>How'd that come up? I don't even remember now your

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.760
<v Speaker 1>mom was a pirate captain alright, Gina Davis? Was that

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 1>a shout out to Cutthroat Island? I guess the movie.

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>You're the one that said it. I guess. Yeah, was

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 1>that cut Throat Island? Huh? Is it the name of it? Yeah,

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:41.119
<v Speaker 1>it was that bad pirate movie. I loved it. That

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't bad. It got bad pressed, it wasn't bad. It's

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.479
<v Speaker 1>funny you like some of the most legendarily bad movies

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>of all times. It wasn't that bad. As far as

0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>just like critics and you're like, yeah, man Ishtar, I've

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 1>actually stayed away from his star. Also stayed away from

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Rock the Kasbo because I saw that it was basically

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>an updated Ishtar. Did I even see that? I can't

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 1>remember if I watched it one night Rock the Kasba, yeah,

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 1>or if I wanted to and didn't like. That's how

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>little of an impact it made. It's on Netflix. I

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 1>think I actually did watch it, and it was just

0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of like, yeah, not very good. Yeah, No, Ishtar

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.560
<v Speaker 1>is a pretty good code word to stay away from him.

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 1>I never saw Ishtar. What else do I like? That

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:31.919
<v Speaker 1>was bad? It was supposedly bad. I mean, like, just

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:37.959
<v Speaker 1>have you have you seen cuts Rhode Island? Sure, it's terrible,

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:42.720
<v Speaker 1>it's not um all right. So we were talking about

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the lineage, what might get you into the light keeping business.

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>We were being coy and role playing, but that is true. People.

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>It's a family business for the most part. Uh your

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>parents or your father might have done it, or you

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>come from a long line of uh seafaring types. At

0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 1>the very least you feel close to the sea. Yeah,

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>Like if you want to spend your time out there

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>on a rocky point overlooking the waves all day long,

0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 1>like you probably didn't come from Kansas to do so,

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, there they have wheat watchers. They just

0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 1>sit in the tower and watch the wheat and the

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>flatness and they stand up all of a sudden they're like,

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, there's a wheat missing. There's a wheat. Um.

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 1>One thing we keep saying is men. That's because most

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 1>of the lighthousekeepers were men, but not all. No, not all,

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.480
<v Speaker 1>and not all of them were necessarily white men either.

0:27:40.560 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>There were some very famous legendary African American lightkeepers and

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 1>um light life savers as well. Surfmen is what they

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>were called to because supposedly you're just there to provide

0:27:54.720 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>light and signal, but when the s hits the f right. UM,

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>I think you can say a fan fan when the

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>essets a fan. Brave lightkeepers were known to go out

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>there and provide rescue. Yeah. Um, and one of them

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>was a woman named Ida Lewis, actually American hero. She

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>grew up on Lime Rock Island, uh, near Newport Rhode

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Island in Newport Harbor, and her dad was a lightkeeper,

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>so she followed that tradition and she actually started taking

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>over the duties after her father had a stroke. Um

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 1>and uh, she just became a lightkeeper, but a very

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>famous one for her life saving skills. Rescued a dozen

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>men over the years. No, actually eighteen affirmed. They think

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>it's as high as twenty five. They're I'm gonna say dozens.

0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>She Uh, she rescued her last person at age sixty three. Yeah.

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>She's quite a lady, that's but for the most part,

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and and she's not the only one who saved lives,

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>like there were plenty out there that did. But it

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>was not an expected role of a lightkeeper because the

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 1>Coastguard had a life saver house usually nearby a lighthouse,

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>because the lighthouse was there in the first place too,

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>because there was a treacherous area, so it just makes

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>sense to also put a life saving House there because

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>even with the light the lighthouse itself, ship may still

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 1>run the ground and there may be rescuing. And if

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to be thrilled, there's a really neat um

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 1>article that's posted on this podcast page about the p

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Island Um life Saving House. It was, um. But by

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the way that pre Coastguard, we had the U S

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Life Saving Service, which is what that term comes from. Yeah,

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and then they merged everything together under Roosevelt, and the

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the lighthouses and the life saving Service all came under

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>the purview of the Coastguard. Right, we should do one

0:29:56.200 --> 0:30:01.360
<v Speaker 1>on the Coastguard. Remember that married couple that were both Coastguards. Yeah,

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that lobby dosts for many years until they gave up.

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>We're still thinking about you guys, and we're still gonna

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>do a Coastguard podcast eventually years and years later. Um. So,

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>pre nine when they made the Coastguard is where you

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>really can't find a whole lot of written history now

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>while that has been lost to time and um they

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>say here in this article that what we have now

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>our stories from families that remain lower. Yeah. Lore, it's

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty neat Yeah, and then chuck, um, so if you're

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in a lighthouse, even as remote and cut off as

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 1>they are, if you hated it, you would still be like,

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>at least I'm not working on a light ship. Yes,

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>So before they had booies like modern booies. Today there's

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>there's booties out there. They're basically like floating lighthouses in

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>areas that require some sort of warning but are just

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>too far off land to build the lighthouse. They put

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>booties out there. And today the booies are like sometimes

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>something like forty feet in diameter. They're huge, massive things. Um.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.800
<v Speaker 1>But before booies even they would use something called light ships.

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And it's exactly what it sounds like. It's a lighthouse

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>on a ship and it's in a very remote area.

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>You are out there for months at a time. Yeah,

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you just sail out and anchor down and live there

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.240
<v Speaker 1>right um, and the boats anchored all the time. You

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 1>would have to like go to and from the boat

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>to the to shore. Um. But while you're working there,

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>it's just mind bogglingly awful. There was a lot of

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>like insanity. Yeah, that would happen, like when the fog

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>rolled in before the evan of foghorns, you would have

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>to yank the bells rope the fog bell rope um

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>every ten seconds, twenty four hours a day, for as

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>long as the fog was around. Every ten seconds you

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>had to ring about. That was your job, and if

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you didn't then you were risking the lives of anybody

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>passing by in the area. So not cool, man, not

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.840
<v Speaker 1>cool at all. But the lightships, apparently we're just about

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>as bad as it it got. As far as boredom, loneliness, isolation,

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:17.400
<v Speaker 1>hatred of bells, the lightship had it all. You hate bells.

0:32:17.720 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I never worked on a lightship, but I'll

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>bet they hated bells. You would hear that in your sleep.

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>If you rang a bell every ten seconds for hours

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>at a stretch, you're not going to get that out

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of your head. And even if you did, when you

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>tried to go to sleep, one of the guys on

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the next ship would be out there ringing the bell anyway. So,

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>dregy nuts, let's talk about some famous lighthouses. Well, we

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:48.760
<v Speaker 1>already talked about the the Pharos of alexandria Um, which

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>is the oldest known lighthouse and at the time they

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>contend might have been the tallest thing on the planet.

0:32:57.680 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>That's super tall. Yeah, and it was masonry to the

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>found it in underwater ocean. They found pieces of it

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and in Alexandria Harbor. I guess you mentioned Eddie Stone

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Light already in Plymouth, England, which is I guess that's

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>where the fine gin comes from. Yeah, still hitting Plymouth

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>up if anyone out there works for Plymouth. Oh man,

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>it's such good gin. It's delicious. So is Leopold's Leopold Gin. Yeah,

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>it's American gin really good, too good. That's that's my

0:33:29.800 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>go to American gin. Nice, although I like most American gin's,

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>but that's if you had st George. I love that stuff. Yeah,

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>there's three of them. One of them I do not

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>care for it all really, but the other two I like.

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet it's the terror terr War. You don't like

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 1>it's so got a weird taste, yeah, but love it.

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>But its own thing, the fact that it doesn't have

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 1>its own classification of gin like Old Tom or Jennifer

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. It should have its own thing. Yeah,

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 1>like foot gin. I love that stuff. It's weird, dude,

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>it's really good. You know what it's really good with?

0:34:01.960 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had um fever tree bitter lemon. No,

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like a lemony lemon, limy, citrusy drink, but without

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>much sweetness. Um that with the territory war gin and juice.

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you know, but it's it's knock your socks off. Yeah,

0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 1>I don't care for it. And you know what, I'll

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>just go ahead and bring you my bottle because I've

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>had like two drinks out of it, so I did

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>wrap my head around. I will you just can't do it.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I will email you tonight as a reminder, say, hey,

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll bring in that st George. Thanks man. And also,

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I am now on because you know,

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I drink the dirty martini, but I don't eat olives,

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 1>which is a little weird, just like the juice. Yeah

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the brine, okay, um with a twist, it's a little different,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>I know that. And um, for years I would have

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>empty jars of dry olives in my fridge and very

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>little juice you know in there. Oh, I know what

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. Now. So now I bought dirty sue

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>yeah olive juice, uh, and you can buy it in

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>a bottle, and I bought a box of it, and

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 1>it just sits in the cabinet my house, nice and

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 1>so big. Shout out to Dirty Sue Olive brine, really dirty,

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 1>is up your Martini? What's your gin that you used

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>for this? Well? I mean I love Plymouth, I love

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Hendrix and our friends at Spring forty four. Gin dude

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>sent us gin from a They said it's all about

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the water, and they have like the best water on earth.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.040
<v Speaker 1>They made some old tom gin. Yeah, and it is.

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>It is delicious like it it made. I love Martinez.

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Is it's um old tom gin. Uh um, marischino liqueur,

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 1>not the cherry stuff, but like the real liquor, and

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 1>then um some sweeter mouth. It's like probably the most

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>perfect drink anyone's ever made. It's very old um that

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe the best Martinez of overhead. That was good stuff. Well,

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>for a while lately I've been stirring. I got a

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>little martini picture or a cocktail picture to stir um.

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 1>But I'm back to shaking now because I found out

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 1>that bruising gin is a total myth. So James Bond

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>wasn't cuckoo. No, you can't bruise gin. Yeah, that's all

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>just garbage. Do you use orange bitters? In yours. No,

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>really brightens it up, straight up dirty sue gin. I

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.280
<v Speaker 1>do use a little vermouth like I know that people

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.399
<v Speaker 1>don't like vermouth at all anymore. Really, Yeah, I see

0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>bartenders now don't use any vermouth. That's that's not a martini.

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>Well agreed, that's a gin a child gin up with

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>some um. Just the one in the green Italian bottle?

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Is that Dolan Blanc? Yeah, that's good stuff. But I

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 1>also found out recently that that vermouth is a wine

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>and you don't just keep it on your shelf for

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.160
<v Speaker 1>two years. Uh, you keep in the fridge for maybe

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:03.879
<v Speaker 1>a month. Yeah, I didn't know that. So I've been

0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>drinking this old old vermouth. You still can, It's not

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>like you can't, but just for the best possible impact,

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>you want to just get that small bottle. I learned

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 1>that the hard way. I'm gonna start doing that. Man,

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:18.800
<v Speaker 1>we we should have our own cocktail show. We should

0:37:18.920 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>because we've just talked. We talked about booze a lot.

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>We don't need to. Let's drink about it. Has that

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>covered a good friends that let's drink about it. Yeah,

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and thanks also to Ben who sent us um some

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 1>ambler smooth ambler. Uh what was it called contradiction? That

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff is good too, that's right, man, booze talk on lighthouses.

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Who knew? Oh, I bet you there's a lot of

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>boozeing that goes on at lighthouses to time. They're not

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:52.399
<v Speaker 1>making amazing drinks with St. George and bitter lemon. They're

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 1>just drinking that stuff straight out of the deer skin.

0:37:54.400 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. Um, Where were we, Eddie Stone Lighthouse, Plymouth, England? Oh? Yes,

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>this gut started. Um. This thing is. It's a it's

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 1>a very rough area to have a lighthouse, and it

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>seems like nature doesn't want a lighthouse there because over

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.439
<v Speaker 1>the years it has been knocked down and burned down

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>many many times. This dude, basically um went out there

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>by himself, Harry Harry or Henry Winstanley in sixteen sixty

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>six six and just started building this wooden lighthouse out

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 1>and these rocks off the coast of Plymouth. Himself got

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>captured by a French pirate, released and lit the thing

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 1>in and he actually died. He deconstructed it and rebuilt

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>it and died in the second version of it. It

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.400
<v Speaker 1>got swept away with him inside but he was a

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool cat. That was seventeen o three. Then another

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 1>one in seventeen o eight was built that burned down

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>in seventeen fifty five. And then a guy named John Smeaton,

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>he was an engineer. He built one that was built

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>to last for a little while. He actually came up

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>with what you think of as the modern lighthouse. It's

0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:04.759
<v Speaker 1>stick at the bottom, tapers at the top, and then

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>it flares out right below the lantern. And the reason

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>most lighthouses flare out right below the lantern is when

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>a wave comes up and the waves can get that big,

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 1>it won't ride up into the lantern. It will be

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 1>thrown back out to see when it hits the flare.

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a water guard. Pretty much interesting. I did not

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>know that here's a smart dude. Um So that one

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>lasted for a hundred and twenty three years, which was,

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:28.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, as far as the Eddy Stone light is concerned,

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:34.279
<v Speaker 1>an eternity. But eventually, uh the Trinity House, which is

0:39:34.320 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>England's version of the coast Guard of the lighthousehouse, they said, no,

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>let's let's tear that thing down. It's this long, but

0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>we think it might not for much longer. But then

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:50.880
<v Speaker 1>they built another one. This one actually they used almost

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a jigsaw puzzle foundation. Yeah, so when a wave hits it,

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it actually compresses together and becomes stronger when a wave

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>s kicking into it. So that was there for good, wonderful.

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>We talked about Boston Light. There's also the Cape Hatteras

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>on the outer banks of North Carolina, which is I

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>believe the tallest one in the United States two feet

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>and it's one of the most famous as well. It's

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the one with the black and white barber pole design. Yeah,

0:40:20.280 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>that's sixty three for our friends everywhere else in the world.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>Did you know that one was in trouble The sea

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:30.280
<v Speaker 1>was encroaching upon it, and they got some money together.

0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Congress did and moved it. Moved this lighthouse feet back

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:40.920
<v Speaker 1>inland over the course of twenty three days. They slowly

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 1>moved it on tracks. It was pretty amazing. It was

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<v Speaker 1>on that modern marbles one. It's like fitz CARLDO. Sure, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a few more fast facts unless you have

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<v Speaker 1>something else, No, I'm done. Uh. Six hundred and eighty

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 1>lighthouses remaining in the US estimated out of that original

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:04.360
<v Speaker 1>thousand plus thirty seven states have lighthouses, just not Kansas.

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Michigan has the most, don't they have all the states?

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<v Speaker 1>Undred and twenty in Michigan because of the Great Lakes,

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine makes sense. The East Coast says three one,

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 1>West Coast only has ninety four. I guess there's just

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more shipping and stuff. Huh, need to step

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>it up West coast um and worldwide. Uh. We estimate

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>seven more than seventeen thousand lighthouses in two d and

0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:33.000
<v Speaker 1>fifty countries. M and the brightest one Oak Island in

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<v Speaker 1>North Carolina, fourteen million candle power. You can see it

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four miles. Great. Yeah, that's a lot. Fourteen million

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>candles all burning. And what's pretty neat? It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a new religion. The Candela's really a million is one

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 1>lighting their candle and I think you just established it

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>reciting the the candela's prayer. Nice. See we just started

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.839
<v Speaker 1>a religion. Yeah that easy? Well you did? I just

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<v Speaker 1>bore a witness. That's all right. You can be my

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>faithful assistant. Thanks can baptize you sure? Okay? Uh. If

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:15.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to know more about lighthouses, you can type

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<v Speaker 1>that word into the search part house too. Horse dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>And since I talked about baptizing Chuck, it's time for

0:42:20.239 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 1>listener man. Since you talked about baptizing Chuck, that must

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 1>mean it's hey, guys. I recently discovered your podcast and

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>immediately fell in love. I'm thirsty for knowledge. Find it

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:39.439
<v Speaker 1>quite impressive that you've become quasi experts. Not really, yeah,

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>but I'm writing in to respond to the controlled burn episode.

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I used to work for my local county park system

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>doing habitat and wildlife management, and controlled burns took up

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 1>many days in the early spring for us. Our department

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>only consist of about six to seven people, three of

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 1>which were licensed burn bosses by the state. They make

0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>the burn plan, they light the fire, and basically coordinate

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and oversee the entire operation. I would make everybody call

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 1>me burn boss totally. Um. Additionally, local fire departments volunteer

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>personnel and sometimes equipment. Uh so they lend out their

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>stuff which is nice, and people such as water trucks

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.239
<v Speaker 1>to assist. We also had quite a large number of

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>park volunteers that go through our training and help on

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 1>fire line. On the fire line as well, that would

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>be neat. I would do that, yeah, like a Saturday afternoon.

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's different for each state and agency um,

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>but our burn bosses go through training put on by

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>the state in order to get certified. I can't recall

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<v Speaker 1>this is mentioned, but another advantage of controlled burns is

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that the charred earth absorbed light because it's black in color,

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<v Speaker 1>more than it normally would, causing the soil to heat

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 1>more quickly and thus early germination for the desired species.

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<v Speaker 1>I had not considered that we didn't mention that good

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<v Speaker 1>factoid there. Thanks for satisfying my wondering mind, Tracy comp

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<v Speaker 1>and since that, Ohio, thanks a lot, Tracy. We appreciate that.

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