WEBVTT - MVPs & Mindfulness on Election Day 2020

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<v Speaker 1>What's up. I'm Laura Creni and I'm Alexa Kristen. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to one of the most important Atlantias election day.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's November. If you haven't already dropped your ballot off,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not currently standing in line to vote, we

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<v Speaker 1>ask you to please consider finding your local polling place

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<v Speaker 1>to make your voice heard. If you need more information,

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<v Speaker 1>go to vote for your Life dot com for more

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<v Speaker 1>information on where you can vote today. And speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>we have a very contextually relevant show today, Alexa. Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Tom is in the Atlantia House with us today. He

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<v Speaker 1>came off the campaign trail with Biden. He's the head

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<v Speaker 1>of Digital Partnerships for Biden for President. Amazing conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>him in a crazy crazy time on a crazy crazy day.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we also paired Christian in with Kristin Mitchell.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kristin Mitchell is founder of Nourish the People. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be hanging with Kristen on the back half of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode to talk about her experience and working with

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<v Speaker 1>executives in the advertising marketing media space who are working

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<v Speaker 1>under tight timelines and talking about what it means to

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<v Speaker 1>take a break, to take a pause to look inward

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<v Speaker 1>and really create boundaries and space to really focus on

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<v Speaker 1>our mental health and well being. And so with that,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope everybody has the opportunity wherever you are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Atlantia today to join us and taking a collective

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<v Speaker 1>breath as an ad community. On election day. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right back and we're back in the studio with Christian Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>head of Digital Partnerships for Biden for President. Christian, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to at Landia. Welcome, Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so we are so excited that you said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I will do a few minutes with you. Guys hot

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<v Speaker 1>from the campaign trail, and we want to get a

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<v Speaker 1>hot take from you on what's happening. So we're recording

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<v Speaker 1>this a week before the election. And Christian, when we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking earlier, you were saying, yes, obviously the elections

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<v Speaker 1>the major deadline, but in the media and campaign world,

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<v Speaker 1>there's another major deadline happening tonight. Can you tell us

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<v Speaker 1>what that is? Yeah, So for this audience, it will

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<v Speaker 1>be something that probably is closer to people's hearts or

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<v Speaker 1>something that that maybe is more interesting. We're eight days

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<v Speaker 1>out from election day and tonight at midnight. We actually

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<v Speaker 1>do have a big advertising and digital advertising deadline. Anything

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<v Speaker 1>that's political in nature needs to go into Facebook and

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<v Speaker 1>be approved by midnight tonight. Facebook is not disallowing ads

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<v Speaker 1>running up to election day, but they aren't allowing any

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<v Speaker 1>new pieces of creative which adds an interesting, uh challenge

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<v Speaker 1>for people who are running again as you can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>huge numbers of add ad units and add groups at scale. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the this is the last chance to get

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in I mean for fresh messaging. That's a real

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<v Speaker 1>challenge totally. I mean yeah, it absolutely is. And and

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook is allowing and again they obviously owned um, Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>so on Facebook and Instagram, we and all all political

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<v Speaker 1>campaigns can continue to put out organic messaging with fresh

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<v Speaker 1>creative and messaging through election day and beyond. But the

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<v Speaker 1>paid boosting uh component, Yeah, it's um, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>this is the deadline tonight. And anyone in the media

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<v Speaker 1>side of the world understands it like paid is the game, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Paid is the game for any brand anybody who have

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation internally my company, Paid is the game. So

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<v Speaker 1>it poses like big challenges and I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>is the ongoing conversation way past the election that we're

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<v Speaker 1>all going to have to have. UM so interested to

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<v Speaker 1>have you come back post election uh and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that and talk about what you're seeing in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>even kind of broader impact of of a decision like that,

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<v Speaker 1>if you would be amazing, I would love to. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to joining the Biden for President campaign, you were

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<v Speaker 1>working in a sales and partnership's capacity with Group nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you talk to us about your decision to move

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<v Speaker 1>from working in advertising sales over to a political campaign. Yeah. So.

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<v Speaker 1>My my background most directly right is having spent five

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<v Speaker 1>years at now This, which was in kind of our

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<v Speaker 1>start up phase, and and the Dono, which together joined

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<v Speaker 1>up to create Group nine with a bunch of other

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<v Speaker 1>media properties. So I was on the publisher side, and

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<v Speaker 1>before that I was at the platforms. I worked at

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter for four years. UM was one of the first

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<v Speaker 1>kind of handful of employees at Twitter in the New

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<v Speaker 1>York office, And I worked at Google on YouTube before that.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, the interesting kind of intersection was always

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<v Speaker 1>UM uh video and social platforms UH, and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then Group nine. Being a publisher who has really been

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<v Speaker 1>some of the leaders about thinking about UM publishing in

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<v Speaker 1>a digital and social first way to come to a

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<v Speaker 1>campaign where there are, um not always a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people who come from industry, meaning who have a background

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<v Speaker 1>similar to what I've described. There are a few people

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<v Speaker 1>who've worked at other big publishing companies and or platforms, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of people, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>true in most industries, come from the industry. These are

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<v Speaker 1>people who maybe serial agency people or serial entrepreneurs. I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of the people who are my colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>now are serial campaign people. This is what they do, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and they know the political world inside out. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think what is nice is I hope what I

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<v Speaker 1>bring is a little bit of it. Therefore, an outside perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning outside of politics, but a media industry first perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So was there a moment, Christian and where you decided

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I'm going to get into the political marketing

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<v Speaker 1>arena and bring this perspective over to the campaign. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I I was motivated enormously by, uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>motivation I think a lot of people have, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to get Donald Trump out of office. Um. For me,

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<v Speaker 1>this has actually always been a bit more than merely

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<v Speaker 1>I think Donald Trump is a terrible president and a

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<v Speaker 1>bad person actually at his at his core um, which

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<v Speaker 1>I do think, um. It is to me this has

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<v Speaker 1>always been also affirmatively the respect I've had for Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden as a public servant um and as someone who

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<v Speaker 1>at his core isn't fundamentally decent human um. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>always admired him in politics. So the opportunity as the field,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning the Democratic primary winnowed um was one that I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't pass up. And this is, I think, as Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden has said, truly a battle for the soul of

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<v Speaker 1>our nation. This is a referendum on who we are

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<v Speaker 1>as Americans. And maybe that's you know, me bighest working

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<v Speaker 1>on the Biden campaign, coming with somewhat kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>flowery language, but I sincerely deeply believe that um. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's an honor, And it was something that I've

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<v Speaker 1>always had a great interest in terms of politics and

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<v Speaker 1>leveraging some of the skills that I can bring to

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<v Speaker 1>any organization, uh and and doing it here. How did

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of take your experience working in the marketing

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<v Speaker 1>media industry and translate it into really creating great digital partnerships,

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<v Speaker 1>which is your role at the Biden campaign. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess for for me, I got introduced to Rob Flaherty,

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<v Speaker 1>who runs all the digital efforts here at the at

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden campaign UM, and as he was building out

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<v Speaker 1>this team, because this was when I started at the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign JEW which feels like simultaneously super recent but also

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime ago. Uh. And we were talking earlier, just

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<v Speaker 1>as we were getting set up about how this is

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<v Speaker 1>a uh seven job and and so it's been like

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime of of work experience. UM. But I got

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<v Speaker 1>introduced to Rob, and the idea of a partnerships team

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<v Speaker 1>is actually not a team that from what he has

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<v Speaker 1>shared with me, UM is kind of like on a

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<v Speaker 1>presidential campaign digital uh, normal organization or previous work. And

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<v Speaker 1>the example he gave to me was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of UM kind of like looking one cycle ago. So

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<v Speaker 1>on Hillary Clinton's campaign, the idea of audience development was

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<v Speaker 1>this novel concept and it was kind of like, oh, um,

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<v Speaker 1>publishers have audience development teams, and the Clinton campaign in

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<v Speaker 1>that case is acting in many ways like a publisher,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the digital mindset, So maybe what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to do that and this year in UM, there

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<v Speaker 1>is an audience development team, and there's been an understanding,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a tacit acknowledgement of how the Biden campaigns

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<v Speaker 1>that like a publisher so so like kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>playbook from four years ago becomes the default. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think of potentially, if we do our jobs right here, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of a partnerships team also can become something

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<v Speaker 1>that is part of the playbook for for the next cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that are their partnerships Christian you can point

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<v Speaker 1>to or talk about. That would be a manifestation of

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<v Speaker 1>bringing that media marketing mindset from outside the Beltway, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, into the political arena that you think represents

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<v Speaker 1>where you see political marketing needing to go. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Partnerships team, as we've built it has three overall pillars.

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<v Speaker 1>The pillars are one uh net new platforms, two digital

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<v Speaker 1>and and actually like digital and social first publishers, and

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<v Speaker 1>then three is creators influencers um uh and and that

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<v Speaker 1>that side of the world. So I can give me

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<v Speaker 1>an example in each category that illustrates I think, um,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're you're describing so um so in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the platform side, part of what we're thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>here is not our own channels, meaning a place where

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have an at Joe Biden or at Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>And in fact I just mentioned we have uh an

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<v Speaker 1>audience development team. Their whole job is to publish content

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<v Speaker 1>on our channels, to grow our audiences there, to think

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<v Speaker 1>about what's you know, uh an engagement that makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>on those platforms, and communicate effectively. So that's what our

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<v Speaker 1>audience development a development team does, and they do it

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<v Speaker 1>exceptionally well. The whole, the whole idea of this partnership's

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<v Speaker 1>team is as much as possible to get off of

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<v Speaker 1>our own channels, how do we grow our reach by

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<v Speaker 1>meeting people where they are and actually putting ourselves outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the at Joe Biden equivalent. So UM to two

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<v Speaker 1>platforms that are really different, but that illustrate that UM.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them is a partnership that we put together

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<v Speaker 1>with Cameo. So Cameo for those of you who are

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<v Speaker 1>are not familiar with it, UM is it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a platform and it's a place where they created a

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<v Speaker 1>marketplace where buyers and sellers can meet. The buyers being

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<v Speaker 1>individual people, and the sellers in this case, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>are the celebs, the influencers who are able to offer

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<v Speaker 1>up for anywhere I think from like fifteen or fifty

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<v Speaker 1>dollars to a few hundred or maybe a few thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars a shout out video recorded on their phones in

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<v Speaker 1>their own homes, and you may have it for uh,

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<v Speaker 1>Laura getting it for our friend Alexa to say happy

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<v Speaker 1>birthday or whatever it might be. And it's done super

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<v Speaker 1>well during the pandemic because like gifting, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>social is a really fun way of doing it right

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<v Speaker 1>then and you get these birthday shout outs or happy graduation,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever might be. So that's an existing product out in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. It's a platform. We went and did the

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<v Speaker 1>partnership work and all the legal and operations work to

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<v Speaker 1>allow for a celebrity when you go to his or

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<v Speaker 1>her page to have the cameos they do and fulfill

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<v Speaker 1>not be a payment that's processed on cameo dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>It becomes a donation to BFP Biden for President via

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<v Speaker 1>Act Blue, and all the operations back and happens to

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<v Speaker 1>authenticate that the donation took place and for that same

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<v Speaker 1>two and fifty dollars or whatever it might be, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the the celebrity then fulfills the request and which is

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<v Speaker 1>the happy birthday or whatever it might it might be UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and gives a great kind of plug and shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to to the friend who who made a donation to

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden campaign for it and the reason why to me,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good example of a digital first platform

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<v Speaker 1>is because a the campaign of course, is a fundraising

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<v Speaker 1>tool that receives the donation and the contribution, which is great.

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<v Speaker 1>U be the celeb who is often you know, banging

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<v Speaker 1>down our door looking for ways to get involved, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when they can't go and join a rally like they

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<v Speaker 1>would have in a traditional election year of meaning an

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<v Speaker 1>in person rally. Can do these can do them at

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<v Speaker 1>home in their own spare time, right like thirty to

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<v Speaker 1>sixty seconds at a time. UM. And then see the

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<v Speaker 1>part to me that's arguably the most powerful from my

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint is all of the downstream earned impressions that we

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<v Speaker 1>get from the gift recipient sharing and other social feeds.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, check it out. I got this great

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<v Speaker 1>shout out from past. So cameo is an example of

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<v Speaker 1>a platform and again very different from say Twitter as

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<v Speaker 1>a platform in and of itself. So that's one another

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<v Speaker 1>platform that we're working on is um it's TikTok, but TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok's one where it's interesting we do we do not

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<v Speaker 1>have an owned channel, and you may have seen kind

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<v Speaker 1>of leaked in the press that we as Biden campaign

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<v Speaker 1>staff do not have TikTok on our phones. Um there

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<v Speaker 1>were some information security concerns, uh, And so that means

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<v Speaker 1>therefore we as the campaign from again like that owned

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<v Speaker 1>channel aren't aren't on there. So we're thinking a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about how do we deploy a distributed creator lad approach

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<v Speaker 1>to have a presence on TikTok, to have pro Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden messaging without the need for our principles for our

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<v Speaker 1>our indidates to be on on the platform. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have done a good job. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have me I some I see Biden stuff all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I'm also and the all go, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy in the all go. But here you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get targeted what we the TikTok things you want

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<v Speaker 1>to see. But yeah, I mean, you're right. We we've

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<v Speaker 1>been measuring obviously across the board, the number of impressions

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<v Speaker 1>or number of posts or you know for TikTok. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also that like how often a piece of audio is used.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of how things go viral on TikTok, So

0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you can see how many times a piece of audio

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<v Speaker 1>has been used and like kind of get a sense

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<v Speaker 1>for how it's been going. And yeah, we're we're happy

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been able to make a big den um

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<v Speaker 1>and get a lot of provide Harris messaging. So those

0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.680
<v Speaker 1>are like, those are platforms. That's another thing Christian that

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<v Speaker 1>we want you to come back and talk about because

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<v Speaker 1>they think there is right again the security issues or

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<v Speaker 1>non issues, but the perceptions with TikTok are huge in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of that platform being able to scale and grow

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<v Speaker 1>um and particularly at a time that's so critical right

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<v Speaker 1>in the Nations kind of history. So it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting tidbit about not having TikTok on your phones totally,

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<v Speaker 1>So thinking Christian about really at this point, eight days away,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the combination of data versus gut that you're using

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. We talked with Lisa Sherman on our

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<v Speaker 1>previous episode, Presidency of the AD Council. The idea of

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<v Speaker 1>speed over perfection. The fly swatter comes to mind. The

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<v Speaker 1>fly swatter. I don't think there was any amount of

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<v Speaker 1>data that you could have looked at. Maybe there was, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in the amount of time it took to get from

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<v Speaker 1>a debate to UM having the fly swatter up on

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<v Speaker 1>your website and available for sale. So so talk to

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<v Speaker 1>us about that dynamic and what you see as being

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<v Speaker 1>the most effective under the tight timelines in which you're working.

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<v Speaker 1>We sold a lot of fly swatters. Let me you,

0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:52.960
<v Speaker 1>we sold a lot of fly swatters. And and actually

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<v Speaker 1>more than that, it was unbelievably impressive to see the

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<v Speaker 1>slack channel for all of the provals to do something

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<v Speaker 1>fly swatter related, and then subsequently, uh, the amazing speed

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<v Speaker 1>to find a Union made fly swatter. All of the

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<v Speaker 1>merch in our Joe Biden store is Union made and printed.

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<v Speaker 1>So not only were they able to just get it

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<v Speaker 1>up live on the Joe Biden store as an item

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<v Speaker 1>for sale, they had to source the Union fly swatter

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place, which is so impressive, UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>and was able to be done. So, UM, I think

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<v Speaker 1>on something like that, when you're in a rapid response

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<v Speaker 1>or a real time environment, UM, I think you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lean a bit more gut UM, and that probably

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<v Speaker 1>is true when you think about the the best worst

0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:43.920
<v Speaker 1>analogy of like Oreo Dunk in the dark, there had

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<v Speaker 1>to be some level of a gut call on what

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<v Speaker 1>would be working for the brand voice of the company

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<v Speaker 1>and same thing here. UM. There's a lot of real

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<v Speaker 1>time decisioning that takes place on something like that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We also use a whole host of data as you

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<v Speaker 1>as you as you share. So there's a person on

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<v Speaker 1>our team for example, UM, a woman named Alison Stern

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<v Speaker 1>who was the co creator of and co founder of

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<v Speaker 1>Tubular Labs, which is a measurement firm. She works on

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign and has really helped to infuse and then

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<v Speaker 1>give a shout out to Allison for this has done

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<v Speaker 1>a great job to infuse a data driven approach for

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<v Speaker 1>when we are signing partnerships with media publishers with influencers

0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:24.800
<v Speaker 1>UM and has made available again like kind of her

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<v Speaker 1>her thinking around it. UM. And So I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious answer is it's both. But I do think it

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<v Speaker 1>depends a bit on what situation you're in, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna skew a bit more one way UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then sew a bit more towards the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of that Christian you know, were there things that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys had to make quick calls on that took

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<v Speaker 1>you into unexpected or new directions? Were there are things

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<v Speaker 1>that you know you can't plan for. Some of these

0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.520
<v Speaker 1>things you couldn't planned for the fly? I mean, the

0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.680
<v Speaker 1>fly was amazing, um, no matter what side you're on.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a kind of a crazy thing that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But were there things that from a bigger change that

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<v Speaker 1>took you guys in a different direction? And what were they? Yeah?

0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean I can even give you an example that

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<v Speaker 1>that is more on our side of the house, um,

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<v Speaker 1>around the work that we did with animal crossing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the the animal crossing work was not breaking news. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not deeply political, uh Supreme Court fight kind of

0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.879
<v Speaker 1>a high stakes thing. However, it was something that we

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<v Speaker 1>worked on uh and created. I guess you would call

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<v Speaker 1>it like almost an m v P, like a minimum

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<v Speaker 1>viable product. It was the arm science. It's a native thing.

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<v Speaker 1>People do it all all up and down the board, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has this almost low fi look, almost like grainy.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know animal crossing, you think that it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, um, hard to read UM, and we thought

0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.040
<v Speaker 1>that corners of the internet might really appreciate it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's certainly people who play animal crossing and have their

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<v Speaker 1>own island and really care about what it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>would really appreciate it. It It would be a fun nod

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<v Speaker 1>to the fact that, UM, this is an important user

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<v Speaker 1>base and that people are spending time on animal crossing

0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.040
<v Speaker 1>and we really do want to be people everywhere where

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<v Speaker 1>they are, including on something like an animal crossing UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And to answer your question, it was it was a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of news and a piece of work that got

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<v Speaker 1>such an outsized, real time, super fast positive reaction UM

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<v Speaker 1>that we had to think pretty creatively, uh and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>quickly to think to put in plans in place for

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<v Speaker 1>what we would do for a two point oh UM

0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.800
<v Speaker 1>and to make it clear it's not a flash in

0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the pan activity and UH and we didn't. We launched

0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:39.280
<v Speaker 1>the Biden Island and our field office with all sorts

0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:43.120
<v Speaker 1>of Easter eggs UM and shout outs to and acknowledgments

0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:46.200
<v Speaker 1>of Joe Biden's past and his interests, as well as

0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Kummel Harris's UM and the team that did the work

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<v Speaker 1>did an awesome job thinking about what's native to animal

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<v Speaker 1>crossing and seeing the reaction in terms of the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the reaction in terms of using the tweets and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been also so again, maybe maybe a bit different

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<v Speaker 1>from like a real time tweet of how to respond

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<v Speaker 1>to something happening in the real world or a geopolitical

0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.680
<v Speaker 1>but in terms of a digital partnership, it was something

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<v Speaker 1>that we had to move pretty quickly, and I just

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:13.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like if more brands acted like they were in

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<v Speaker 1>a presidential campaign, we would see a lot more innovation

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot more willingness to say doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be perfect. It's something we're gonna m v P. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get out there and talk to the for

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<v Speaker 1>the far corners of the Internet UM and see if

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<v Speaker 1>they appreciate it. I just feel like that's a lesson

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<v Speaker 1>that we can all take back. What are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on seeing more UM individuals who work in media and

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<v Speaker 1>marketing coming into the political marketing sphere and what impact

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that might have on future elections. I

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<v Speaker 1>think there will always be some number of UM operators

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<v Speaker 1>or or even uh some number of agencies who are

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<v Speaker 1>like whose agency services are used for for the campaign,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's been true for a while people coming from

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<v Speaker 1>maybe more of like my perspective, who are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do things a bit differently. I hope. I think, UM

0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.879
<v Speaker 1>that it's proven to be really powerful to have an

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<v Speaker 1>outside an outside voice. And I don't even tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that some of the things that we're doing with digital

0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:24.560
<v Speaker 1>publishers UM are not new as in Christian is some

0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:29.440
<v Speaker 1>innovation person. These are in some cases things that a

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<v Speaker 1>group nine of the world does or has done UM

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while. So it's it really is in

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<v Speaker 1>that case just about pulling something from a totally different

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<v Speaker 1>arena or outside of what people are used to hearing UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of what we're doing is really great

0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 1>branded content from a number of buzzfeeds individual channels. So

0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 1>branded content for BuzzFeed is a is a well oiled machine,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning they really know what they're doing and how to

0:21:58.119 --> 0:22:00.480
<v Speaker 1>make it feel native. They are pros at this kind

0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.000
<v Speaker 1>of social first and video stuff. UM. When we are

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<v Speaker 1>doing things with peril Like, which is one of their

0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:11.080
<v Speaker 1>pages that focuses on Latino audiences UM, and we're doing

0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 1>things with Tasty, which is they're really popular food brand

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<v Speaker 1>media publisher UH and so what an approachable way for

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<v Speaker 1>in that case, in the latter case for Dr Jill

0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Biden to talk about family and to talk about home

0:22:26.040 --> 0:22:28.919
<v Speaker 1>and the importance of voting even in the context of

0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:32.960
<v Speaker 1>making which they did for the world famous chicken farm.

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.880
<v Speaker 1>It was great. I love it. I want that recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to see that video. I think you just

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<v Speaker 1>gave us a couple of really important nuggets, one of

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<v Speaker 1>which Laura and I talked about a lot. Right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about the word innovation, which is just a weird,

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.880
<v Speaker 1>bad word that doesn't really mean a lot, And they

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<v Speaker 1>don't think about how can you take something that's working

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<v Speaker 1>and actually put it into a different context with a

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.320
<v Speaker 1>different audience, and all of a sudden there's actually something

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<v Speaker 1>kind of magic all that happens for both the audience

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<v Speaker 1>and the brand. So it's a great That is a

0:23:04.320 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>great kind of message because it's so critical to think

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>about creating some tension between the context and the audience.

0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be net new And I love

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the idea Christian of what you're talking about and developing

0:23:16.920 --> 0:23:21.679
<v Speaker 1>this partnership's team withinside Political Campaigns is really the cross

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<v Speaker 1>pollination of I p right knowing what you know the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign is best at, and then not necessarily having to

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<v Speaker 1>create something net new, but going out and finding partners

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:33.160
<v Speaker 1>where that is their expertise, that is their skill set,

0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that is their platform, that is their tech stact, whatever

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the case may be, and building on it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's something we've been talking a lot about on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>is like double down on the thing you're best at

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<v Speaker 1>and then go and bridge these external partnerships and find

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<v Speaker 1>ways to collaborate in new ways where one post one

0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 1>may equal ten. So with that, Alexa, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have a final question what is next? What is post

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:57.840
<v Speaker 1>next week? For Christian Tom? Where are you gonna go?

0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.719
<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna do? I can tell you what's

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<v Speaker 1>next actually in terms of the campaign, which is you're

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this on election day, um, we will have

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:14.719
<v Speaker 1>just concluded a body of work that we're um creating

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>right now, which is what we're calling Project seventy two.

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>It is the final seventy two hours leading into the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign and providing a really clean and clear um scaffolding

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>for people, individuals, influencers, creators, celebrities, people to help quote

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>unquote kind of donate their accounts to this campaign and

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to give people really easy and hopefully really

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.000
<v Speaker 1>fun and compelling things to share on their social feeds,

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 1>whether that's agat, vertical or square or every every type

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 1>of format you can think of, UM with a bunch

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.400
<v Speaker 1>of different esthetics that you can go and put out

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>on your channels. After that, meaning starting today election day,

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<v Speaker 1>we are also thinking a little bit about UM if

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<v Speaker 1>we need to have UM the same help of people

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>and influencers across the board in a scenario where this

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>election is not determined on the night of November three

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<v Speaker 1>tonight when you're listening to this, so UM, what's next

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<v Speaker 1>is you may well be called upon if you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this to help us make sure that the vote

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<v Speaker 1>count period m is H is happening, and that all

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<v Speaker 1>the votes are counted, and that UM everything is tabulated

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that that means that everyone's voice is heard.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a there was work between now and November three, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>and there may well be work to be done together

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<v Speaker 1>after that as well. We're gonna run into our final

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 1>statement that we ask everyone to do. It's called kill

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>by d I Y. So what would you anything you want?

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>What would you kill? What would you purchase or acquire

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 1>What would you do yourself? And it's a lightning round.

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>I have a irrational dislike of umbrellas. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a controversial take, but walking on New York City streets

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<v Speaker 1>with trying to dodge umbrellas and yourself trying to put

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<v Speaker 1>your umbrella down and hope other people, I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to just have everyone to be running in between awnings

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<v Speaker 1>or something instead, but that might not be totally feasible.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say kill umbrellas. Umbrella is not that controversial.

0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I like it all right. What would you buy? I

0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>would love to buy UH and I've had that that

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<v Speaker 1>did even more because right now it actually is my

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>main UH productivity machine. But I would love to buy

0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 1>one that could do even more than what it does now.

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 1>And Apple just released their new iPads, So I think

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 1>you're in luck and oh boy, what would you do yourself?

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:02.400
<v Speaker 1>We like everyone else, I've been doing a lot of

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>baking um, but we've also been therefore been doing a

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of cooking. So what I would

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>love to learn how to d I y really well?

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 1>UM is more interesting dishes and Christian If people want

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to send you recipes or get in touch with you

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 1>about future collaborations. Are partnerships post election? How can they

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch with you? I guess Twitter is probably

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<v Speaker 1>best on Twitter. I'm at ce L Tom ce L

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<v Speaker 1>t O M, so please hit me up. And I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate both of you, and thank you for having me. Christian,

0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.800
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Good luck the next eight days

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.800
<v Speaker 1>and beyond. We hope you'll come back. Yes, thank you.

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>We'll see you soon, Christian, take care. Thank you so much.

0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.919
<v Speaker 1>Alexa and I wanted to take a collective pause this

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>election day and talk about turning busy into being. We're

0:27:55.800 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 1>welcoming Kristin Mitchell, founder of Nourish the People. Kristen, welcome

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to Atlantia. Thank you so much for having me. I'm

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>so happy to be here. I would love for you

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>to take everyone on your journey um over the last

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>few years in working in the health and wellness space.

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Of course, well it's always a long story how people

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>get really into wellness, deeply into this work. But I

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.119
<v Speaker 1>think with me, it really started way back when I

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>was probably about fifteen is when I started doing yoga,

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.440
<v Speaker 1>so yoga with my free into everything. My mom did

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 1>it as long as I can remember, so throughout my life,

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 1>yoga has always been a constant. I moved to New York,

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.159
<v Speaker 1>very busy environment, had a lot of crazy jobs, and

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I realized over time that as I was dealing with

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>more and more anxiety and more and more stressful situations,

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>it was returning back to that practice in that room

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that I had had since I was fifteen that really

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>kept me grounded and kind of sane. So eventually I

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>hit a low point in ironically four years ago cycles

0:28:55.320 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 1>and decided that I just wanted to learn more about yoga,

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>but beyond that, learn more about I guess why it

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>worked for me. So I went deep into a two

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>teacher training program and then from there it's just been

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of the rest of my life. That was really

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the first big door that opened and clicked in my mind.

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:21.560
<v Speaker 1>And spending that much time thinking about yoga, mindfulness, the

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>background of it, the history, it really changed my perspective

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>on how I behave, how I see things, and really

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>how I live. So pause on that one. Around that

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>same time, I was working a bunch of different random

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>jobs because just pivot, you know, and I ended up

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>meeting Laura, and that was another really big turning point.

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>For me because I saw something in you that I loved,

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and I also saw that there were so many aspects

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>of what you were doing in the way that you

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>were living throughout your day that could benefit from me

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>being there to provide support from these teachings that I

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>had been practicing for a really long time. So that's

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:06.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of where my my wellness practice as an individual

0:30:06.360 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>in my work, they kind of started to come together

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>as one, and that eventually ended up informing Nourish the

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>People in my mission now, which is helping really motivated

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 1>creative doers in this world who we really need, and

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 1>there are so many of them, and especially in this

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>time in particular, there's so many activists and entrepreneurs have

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to think differently and everyone's really being pushed. So I

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 1>want to provide a platform and practices that are simple

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to help people always be able to return to their

0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:44.479
<v Speaker 1>sense of calm even in these very chaotic situations, because

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>that's ultimately what I've been trying to do for myself

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>and when I was able to do for Laura a

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit. Let's talk about nourish the people, talk about

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.960
<v Speaker 1>building this brand of course, well again, I mean I

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of have I kind of have you to thank

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>for it, honestly, Laura, because as I was working with you,

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>and as I was working in an agency, and this

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:06.880
<v Speaker 1>was my first exposure to agency life. Of course, um,

0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 1>we were working together today every day on the regular,

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>but then I was also in an office of just brilliant,

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>brilliant people who are just churning and doing so much

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>all of the time. So that kind of inspired something

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>in me to think, Huh, how can I simplify all

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>of this information that I have in my mind, all

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>of this information about food I've I've went to Institute

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of Integrative Nutrition. So there's that side, all this information

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>about mindfulness, about yoga, about breathwork, about meditation, but simple

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.959
<v Speaker 1>down to a point where it's not intimidating, there's not

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>a barrier to entry, but rather it can be really

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:50.520
<v Speaker 1>grasp herbal, really practical, and these creatives and doers can

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 1>integrate these things into their life in little tiny bits

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:57.520
<v Speaker 1>every single day to make a difference. And I think

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>that we are in this era of just doing, doing, doing, going, going, going.

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 1>So if I can even find an ounce like two, three,

0:32:07.600 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>five minutes of someone's day to kind of help them

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>set a boundary or help them take a pause and

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>make it not intimidating. Then that's the goal, that's the mission.

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>So give us a few examples of that. So the

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>first thing that I'd say, and I preach this all

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the time recently, especially to myself, is when you are

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>having a moment of complete overwhelm or anxiety or stress

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is, don't fight it. I think we

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>are also in this society where we really try to

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>escape negative feelings and escape discomfort. And the fact of

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the matter is where in a challenging time, everyone's having

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 1>a hard year in these types of emotions and these

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>types of feelings are just going to happen. So when

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 1>you can sit there and just acknowledge what it is

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>that you're feeling, just by acknowledging it, just by putting

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the verbiage around, not saying like I am anxious, but

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>just saying I'm experiencing anxiety right now, that will help

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>because what that does to your mind is it tells you, oh,

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not actually attached to this. This is just something

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that's coming through me in this moment, and eventually, like

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 1>all things, it will change. So that's my first number

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>one tip, right now is just be very kind to

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 1>yourself and have the wherewithal to acknowledge these hard moments

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and just say them for what they are. This is

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>a hard moment. I feel really overwhelmed right now. But

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that's okay because they always they change to the nature

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of my mind. It's the nature of emotions. It's always shifting.

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 1>So number one. Number two, everyone says it. At nauseam,

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to breathe. You have to breathe. I feel

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a full breath in in, a full breath out, and

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>repeat that. Can we just do that right now together? Yeah,

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>let's do it, all right, everyone, Let's do this, okay, everyone, So,

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>wherever you're sitting, if you're sitting cross legged, if you're

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>sitting with your feet on the ground, I just un

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>crossed my legs and put my feet down. The first

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>thing that you do is you notice your point of

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.799
<v Speaker 1>contact with the floor, because that feeling of gravity, that

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 1>feeling of being supported, will always calm your nervous system.

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>It will always let you know that you're okay, you're held,

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you're in the car, wherever you are, it doesn't matter.

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Just notice your seat, notice the bottoms of your feet.

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Let the breath come out of your body and then

0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:32.720
<v Speaker 1>take a full inhale into your nose, ride the breath

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.720
<v Speaker 1>all the way down into your belly, fill your belly

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 1>exand and then just acts how let it go. There

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>you go. That's number two. It works every time, instantly

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>feeling better. Yes, it instantly works. And it's so silly

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>because it's so simple, but it always works. So that's

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>my big thing number two that I with say, and

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the number three, which is actually this is funny. It's

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>popping into my mind right now, so I'm just going

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to go for it. Remember the moments that you felt

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>really good. There's a lot of emphasis around even myself

0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 1>like stress and anxiety, but I think it's important to

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 1>have a note or a photo or something of a

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>time when you just mentally felt really well, really on

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:27.839
<v Speaker 1>it and just really good, really like yourself, and go

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 1>back to that moment, maybe close your eyes and just

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>put yourself back in that headspace, use your imagination just

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>what you what did you feel at that time, just

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.399
<v Speaker 1>as a reminder to your body and to your mind

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 1>that you can easily go back there. As you've been building,

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>have you recognized patterns with executives that you've worked with

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:50.399
<v Speaker 1>that have informed your services in terms of what you're

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 1>offering through nurse of people, both in the content of

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:55.360
<v Speaker 1>your newsletter, but also in the services that you're designing,

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:59.400
<v Speaker 1>be at yoga, practice, coaching, meditation, et cetera. Have there

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>been patterned There's always patterns. We're all kind of all

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>cycling around many of the same things, just in our

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 1>own unique ways. One thing that I noticed a lot

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:13.440
<v Speaker 1>that I also personally deal with, of course, is perfectionism.

0:36:13.480 --> 0:36:16.439
<v Speaker 1>This this idea of needing to maintain all of these

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 1>really really high standards that we build for ourselves constantly.

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>That's a big one. Another really big one is just

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 1>generally lack of boundaries. There's a lack of boundary now,

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>especially in homes, because you're working, you're doing everything from

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>your space. So how can you help people adjust their

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>physical environments, in their mindset around their physical environments to

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:41.399
<v Speaker 1>create boundaries for themselves within their days. That's a really

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>big one that I think a lot of people are

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>working through right now. And another one that I want

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.839
<v Speaker 1>to say that's again a little bit cheesy, but you've

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>got to just hang with me, is just needing to

0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:59.120
<v Speaker 1>be easier on yourself it's everyone gets really wrapped up

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>in really stress stubt in things that aren't going, things

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that aren't meeting expectations. And I think it's so important

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>collectively across the board for everyone to just be gentle

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>with yourself, be kind no matter what you're doing right now,

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 1>just recognize there's so so much happening that that's one

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.799
<v Speaker 1>of the most important things that you can do. So

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>christ and I always hear that, like people always say,

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>be kind to yourself, be you know, don't be so

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>hard on yourself. And I always say, what does that

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 1>look like? What does that look like? Why do you

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.280
<v Speaker 1>do that? What does that mean? A great questions, such

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.719
<v Speaker 1>a good question. It's it's another thing where you have

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to work on it. It does not come naturally. The

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 1>nature of the mind is always too critique, to criticize,

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to over analyze, to perpetuate bad situations. Is a way

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to protect us, essentially from ourselves from anything that could

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>possibly happen. This is something I wrote about recently where

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>that's why I think it's important to understand that and

0:37:59.080 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>be friend that aspect of your mind because all of

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 1>the negative self talk, all of the anxiety it's coming

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 1>from a place of ultimate protection our mind, our body.

0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>They just want us to be safe. So it's trying

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>to anticipate where we could go wrong, which is where

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 1>we end up being really really hard on ourselves because

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>we think about all the things that we could potentially

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>do wrong or not meet expectations, or ways we could

0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>potentially get rejected. So one of the ways to remedy

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:31.200
<v Speaker 1>that is to first of all, get clear about where

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>you're being harsh on yourself. Get crystal clear. That's always

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 1>where I start understand what's the thought, what is the language,

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.800
<v Speaker 1>what is the fear? What is it that I'm beating

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<v Speaker 1>myself up about? Right, So get very very clear and

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<v Speaker 1>concise about the harshness. And then this is I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>this is a new thing that I've actually been working

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<v Speaker 1>on recently that I'll put out there because it was effective. Um,

0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>give yourself. Start write down advice. If you think about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say let's pretend someone else did the things to

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you that you're anxious about that you're beating yourself about.

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Your best friend just went and you know, they messed

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<v Speaker 1>up a presentation or whatever it is, and they're just

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>beating themselves up about it. Sit down and write advice

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<v Speaker 1>to them. What would you say to them in that

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<v Speaker 1>moment right now to kind of help them feel better

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>to a friend, just write it and then sit there

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<v Speaker 1>and read it and give that advice to yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>just take it in take your own advice. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting how we always know what we need. We always

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<v Speaker 1>have the answers. You just have to slow down and

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<v Speaker 1>ask the question and then be willing to listen to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Christ and I love that. It's super simple. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just right. And one of the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot about is slow down. What can people

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<v Speaker 1>do right now? Because we're not in an industry that's

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<v Speaker 1>slow ever, we're actually the industry it's pushing the pace, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what can people do to actually use the energy,

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<v Speaker 1>like take negative energy and take that push and take

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<v Speaker 1>that speed and actually turn it into something that's propelling,

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Like how do people start to think about that? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know Laura really well. Laura knows me

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<v Speaker 1>really well. One thing that we have in common is

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<v Speaker 1>that we both work well one under pressure and with speed.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, when we're slower, we seem to get a

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<v Speaker 1>little frustrated. How do we take that negative energy and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reframe it and push it into a creative place,

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<v Speaker 1>push it into something that's going to help us. So

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing I want to touch on that I

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<v Speaker 1>think is so important to you said, when you slow down,

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<v Speaker 1>it's frustrating. Yeah, that is one of the key components

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<v Speaker 1>that I am trying to kind of undo with people

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<v Speaker 1>like yourself, that that slow down time is so crucial

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<v Speaker 1>to fuel the going time, the fast time, the under

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 1>pressure time. So a huge practice, everything is a practice.

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I'll use that word in a nauseam. A huge practice

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<v Speaker 1>is recognizing when you're slow and being okay with the discomfort,

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>in knowing that the slowness is always a precedent prior

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>to moving really quickly and moving into the doing, and

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that you will actually do so much better if you

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 1>give yourself that time to be slow. You have to

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 1>have both. We you just you have to have both.

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>It's the nature. You cannot always be doing doing, doing, going,

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:44.960
<v Speaker 1>or you burnout, right burnout, that's all that is. So

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.640
<v Speaker 1>embrace the slow even if it's uncomfortable. Just sit there

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and think, why am I so uncomfortable? What is this?

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 1>And is there something that I could read? Is there

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 1>something that I could listen to is there a way

0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I could move go on a walk to process this

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<v Speaker 1>feeling throughout my body and make it feel okay. Feelings changed? Yeah,

0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I love the feelings change. That's like such an under

0:42:08.680 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>under understood right, the thing that feelings are actually constantly

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>moving um and typically when we're not feeling good, it

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>feels like they're there forever. What are the services that

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:28.719
<v Speaker 1>you're offering now as Nourished the People is in development

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to executives who may want to email you directly after

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 1>listening to this episode. Absolutely well. The first I always

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 1>have my newsletter. The newsletter is the core of Nourish,

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.879
<v Speaker 1>so you can always find me there. I also do

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>one on one private sessions. I teach what's called yin yoga.

0:42:46.160 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 1>So yin is slow, it is low to the ground.

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:52.879
<v Speaker 1>It is not entirely restorative. You move a tiny bit more,

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 1>but it is just putting you into your body, really

0:42:56.480 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>getting you into your body and breathings so that you're

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>anatomy begins to relax. And then along with the in session,

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I do a short conversation just to the beginning. I

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:12.760
<v Speaker 1>help people focus in on one mental hang up, whatever

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.319
<v Speaker 1>it is. One stressed, one anxiety, one thing that just

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.959
<v Speaker 1>won't shut up in their mind. And then we kind

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 1>of move and meditate and do some visualization in accordance

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to that one hang up. And then I provide practices.

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I provide suggestions. What's one two minute thing you can

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:33.399
<v Speaker 1>do every day that could help you? I say two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes and emphasize that because one of the things that

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to do with Nourish the People and working

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.320
<v Speaker 1>with executives in particulars, I know time is so valuable

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and so limited, and oftentimes that's all that they have,

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>but it's enough to make a really substantial difference. Otherwise

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be doing this. I would say Christen that

0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I know you're you offer up two minutes, but having

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>worked with you, those two minutes easily turned into twenty

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 1>minutes and in some instances two hours. So so to

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 1>everyone listening, I think for stop, sign up for Nourish

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>the People newsletters that Nourish the People dot co CEO

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 1>and christ and if people want to get in touch

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 1>with you to talk about the practice, sign up for

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 1>your services. How can they get in touch with you?

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely you can find me on Instagram at nourish the

0:44:17.160 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 1>People dot Co. That's CEO. You can also email me

0:44:20.640 --> 0:44:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Kristen k R I S T I n AT Nourish

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the People dot Co. That's also available on my website.

0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I would love so much to talk to you, so

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 1>feel free slide into my DM, send me a note

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 1>comment on something and I would I would just love

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>to chat and hear about how you're doing and how

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you're handling this year and if there's anything that I

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>can maybe offer up to help. I think that just

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 1>st even your your presence, but you're you know, really

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>smart advice. Um, it's just something that, especially in this industry,

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>we need more of. Thank you so much for coming

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 1>by and bringing some pause to this election day. We

0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 1>appreciate the conversation and you, of course so happy to

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:08.960
<v Speaker 1>be here. Thank you too for having me so what

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 1>an amazing episode, feeling all types of push and pull,

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:20.240
<v Speaker 1>thinking about pace, the meaning of pausing to push forward,

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>finding space to really think and create. And Alexa, there

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<v Speaker 1>was also something you said in our conversation with Christian

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:31.720
<v Speaker 1>that really stuck with me. This idea of brand acting

0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>like they're in an election cycle and starting to connect

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 1>some some signals here right, we heard from Lisa Sherman.

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.600
<v Speaker 1>The idea of speed over perfection. We're hearing in this

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<v Speaker 1>episode with Christian, the idea of putting out a minimum

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:50.240
<v Speaker 1>viable product and building an iterating quickly if it lands.

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>What do you think that this is signaling to brand

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 1>marketers in which pace is moving faster and faster every day.

0:45:58.719 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I think there's, you know, the new kind of there's

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a new kind of emphasis that's been put on marketers

0:46:05.080 --> 0:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>around creating something new, always creating something new, and that

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.919
<v Speaker 1>there's value in that. What Christian said that I thought

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:16.239
<v Speaker 1>was so smart was it's almost like ready mades. Do

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:19.799
<v Speaker 1>anyone to know what a ready made is? It's an art, right,

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:25.279
<v Speaker 1>You're using found objects and you're creating something new, Like

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>if there's something that is essential in a presidential election

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 1>by using audiences, communities, things that are existing media, media products, platforms, etcetera.

0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>That they put a spin on, and you know, I

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.279
<v Speaker 1>think Christian really hit on it. And we've done this, Laura,

0:46:46.320 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>we've talked about this a lot, even in season one.

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>In season two, how do you take a property, uh

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 1>partner and collaborate and find where your brand in their

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>brand is additive or an experience at it have not

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>adjacent as the line I believe we always used to

0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:06.760
<v Speaker 1>use exactly additive, not adjacent. And I think that Christian

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 1>really hit on that. And brands, you know, election cycles

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.319
<v Speaker 1>are short. They're short for all intents and purposes and

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 1>their high stakes. And I think if the brands start

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to think about themselves and their activity, their marketing activity

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>like that, it will create collaboration over competition, which Lisa

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Sherman talked about. It will create new from already created.

0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And maybe there shouldn't be a premium or the shiny

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>object kind of requirement for a marketer. It should be

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 1>how are you looking at things that exist that are

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<v Speaker 1>doing well that you could use in a different way,

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Things that have community that you could enter into in

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<v Speaker 1>a different way. And I think that was a big

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<v Speaker 1>point that I got from Christian. He doesn't have time, right,

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:03.359
<v Speaker 1>they don't have time to build constantly something that's new,

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.680
<v Speaker 1>but they did. I couldn't agree more. And I think

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 1>there's two additional takeaways that I was left thinking about

0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 1>following that conversation. Was one incredibly important to go to

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>where the consumer or in this case, the voter is,

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of the partnerships that Christian was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about via cameo TikTok animal crossing, going to where the

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>customer or voter is thinking about AOC showing up on Twitch,

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:40.480
<v Speaker 1>going to where the customer or the voter is And

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<v Speaker 1>so you know that being one the second that I

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<v Speaker 1>took away, double down on the thing that you're best at,

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<v Speaker 1>and collaborate and cross pollinate with others who are best

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:55.640
<v Speaker 1>at what they do, and find ways to iterate and

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:59.760
<v Speaker 1>build versus having to continually build net new yep. I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>totally agree in the market that where and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is extremely difficult to be everything to everyone and

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<v Speaker 1>so what is the thing that you own that you

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<v Speaker 1>do better than anyone and then build partnerships within your

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 1>ecosystem to allow you to iterate and scale and to

0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:19.279
<v Speaker 1>do that we need Kristin Mitchell to help us clear

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<v Speaker 1>our heads, take a breath. Christen is such a clear

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<v Speaker 1>thinker for me. You know what's really interesting is, and

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:31.200
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this. I have, we both have, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just be honest, a hard time slowing down. But one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I think, you know Christen said

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<v Speaker 1>was this idea around slowing down actually allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>speed up, and that was one of the probably most

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>important things for me. And I can't speak for everyone, Laura,

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I can't speak for you Lord knows um, but but

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<v Speaker 1>I today has been in highly anticipated day for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been super anxious about it. It I think saying right,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we've talked about it, and I think it's

0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:07.399
<v Speaker 1>really important that we all do what we have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that one last collective breath with Kristin Mitchell, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Okay, everyone, close your eyes, fill your

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 1>seat underneath you, fill the bottoms of your feet, Take

0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>a big inhal through your nose. The breath moves all

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 1>the way down through your throat into your belly. By exhale.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, get out and vote. Laura hit it

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<v Speaker 1>with the list of all of our friends and family

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 1>at my heart who have been so good at us

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<v Speaker 1>and helped us get back on air. Big thank you

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 1>to Bob Conald, Carter, Andy, Eric gayle Vow, Michael jen

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you. Thank you so much for this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you in two weeks.