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Speaker 1: this topic on our news show and now we're done.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. We haven't even talked about who's going first?
Speaker 1: What we want to talk about first? What's in the
Speaker 1: news everybody, how's your year going? There are things things
Speaker 1: are good for everybody from across the board. Remember our
Speaker 1: friend Matt gets is um is having a great time. Um.
Speaker 1: He seems to be very happy. Other feels like it's
Speaker 1: good place to start, a good gates to start. Katie,
Speaker 1: Oh there it is. Everybody's on fire today real quick.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, yesterday I found myself shaking
Speaker 1: my head and muttering this fucking year man, and then
Speaker 1: I stopped and I was like, m this fucking year
Speaker 1: and a half. Man. I can't keep saying this year.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's bigger than that, And I think that's
Speaker 1: what we're trying to convey here at worst year ever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're We're in an endless spiral that has less to
Speaker 1: do with the year and more to do with the
Speaker 1: interlocking series of systems that govern our lives and are
Speaker 1: continually accelerating all of us towards an uncertain and likely
Speaker 1: doomed future. Um, but that we That was the initial
Speaker 1: title we pitched for this show, and corporate said, that's
Speaker 1: that's like an entire paragraph. Figure something else out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we did. We did. But let's gates to the
Speaker 1: gates Gate. Let's get let's gates to gates Gate, Matt Gate,
Speaker 1: Let's do ith that gate. Oh god, so tall hair
Speaker 1: Gate a disaster. His face is a disaster. Everything about
Speaker 1: him is a disaster. The personality. I didn't realize he
Speaker 1: was a friend of Katie Hills. Yeah. Um, he defended
Speaker 1: uh was it Katie Porter when she got hurt. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The surprising thing I learned about him was that he
Speaker 1: actually had a pretty good response to that. You shouldn't judge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now it makes sense because he needs himself. I
Speaker 1: had totally missed that he defended Katie Hill when all
Speaker 1: of this, all her stuff went down. UM. That surprised me,
Speaker 1: But I'm a man. You can give credit where it's due. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish i'd known about it to chat about it
Speaker 1: with her when she was on our show, and she
Speaker 1: said that if the allegations against him are true, he
Speaker 1: should resign and be prosecuted, which so we should talk
Speaker 1: about these allegations. They all pretty much all of this
Speaker 1: stuff circles back to a former Seminole County tax collector
Speaker 1: named Joel Greenberg. Joel was in advertising until the age
Speaker 1: of thirty one, when he became the the he ran
Speaker 1: for and became the tax collector of Seminole County. UM.
Speaker 1: He like ran under a hard maga ticket. Uh. He
Speaker 1: very publicly like when he won. UM started making all
Speaker 1: of his employees at the tax office open carry firearms.
Speaker 1: He got a badge for himself that said tax Collector. UM.
Speaker 1: He got in trouble for impersonating a law enforcement officer,
Speaker 1: which he did a couple of times. He fired employees
Speaker 1: of the tax collector's office who had supported the guy
Speaker 1: he had been run against. He hired his friends. He
Speaker 1: spent an estimated one point nine million dollars on a
Speaker 1: mix of body armor, firearms, cryptocurrency mining rigs, um, and
Speaker 1: other things like just like like for himself. Wow, I
Speaker 1: keep wanting to imagine driving around blasting that Beatles song
Speaker 1: tax man, you know, yeah, flashing his He definitely flashed
Speaker 1: his badge. He Um. He tried to start He started
Speaker 1: a I think he called it like Government Cryptocurrency Services
Speaker 1: or some ship like that government was in the name
Speaker 1: was started, it was paid for and run out of
Speaker 1: government offices, but it was entirely for the profit of
Speaker 1: Joel Greenberg. Um. So he started a cryptocurrency mining company.
Speaker 1: And he also started buying and then selling cryptocurrency rigs
Speaker 1: using taxpayer money, but gave the profits to himself. Um.
Speaker 1: He the crypto business that he started, he had to
Speaker 1: move it because it was creating too much heat and
Speaker 1: too much energy to another government office, which it then
Speaker 1: set on fire. Um it's it's so good. So this
Speaker 1: giant piece of ship. The exact nature of his relationship
Speaker 1: with Matt Gates is somewhat uncertain, but they appear to
Speaker 1: be first picture of them from the same there's a
Speaker 1: picture of of the two of them together with Roger
Speaker 1: Stone by Matt Gates and Matt Gates says like hanging
Speaker 1: out with my buddy or something like from the same
Speaker 1: month in year that Joe Greenberg is being charged with
Speaker 1: sexually trafficking a minor um a seventeen year old, and
Speaker 1: one of the allegations against him are I mean he
Speaker 1: I think he's currently facing fourteen federal charges, but they're
Speaker 1: expected to be more, potentially even like dozens. Like he's
Speaker 1: he's in. He's he's in a lot of trouble. Among
Speaker 1: other things, he illegally used a state database to create
Speaker 1: fake I d s so that he could sexually traffic women,
Speaker 1: including teenage girls. Um. Not including women and teenage girls.
Speaker 1: I should say, um, a lot of bad stuff Joe
Speaker 1: Greenberg did. Um. But it's it's like he um. He
Speaker 1: pulled over and confronted a driver for speeding using his
Speaker 1: tax collector badge, which is he got not a not
Speaker 1: a thing tax collectors. Um. In Florida, they barely collect taxes. Um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He The state Attorney's office declined to fresh charges in
Speaker 1: that case, which in and of itself is fucking baffling. Um. Greenberg,
Speaker 1: on another account, got pulled over himself for speeding and
Speaker 1: asked the officer for professional courtesy, saying is if there's
Speaker 1: any way on earth, I'm just trying to stay off
Speaker 1: the front page of the damn newspaper. Tax collector gets ticket.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of political crap I have to deal with.
Speaker 1: He said that the police officer, you know, he's right,
Speaker 1: that would have really made some waves. Can you even imagine? So,
Speaker 1: I want to be exact in the amount of money
Speaker 1: this guy misused three point five million dollars in consultant
Speaker 1: contracts and salaries for people who were personal friends of
Speaker 1: his UM and some of his supporters. He gave a
Speaker 1: combined six d forty four thousand dollars of government money
Speaker 1: to three of his groomsmen, and another six hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy seven thousand dollars of government money to a campaign advisor.
Speaker 1: He wasted a million in taxpayer funds on body armor, weapons, ammunition,
Speaker 1: and a drone. UM. Yeah he was, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: just one drone UM. Yeah. He He was accused of
Speaker 1: using his access as an elected official to look up
Speaker 1: information about a minor UM who was a victim UM
Speaker 1: in a Florida Yeah, in a Florida driver in vehicle database. Um.
Speaker 1: He's accused of the thing that actually got him initially
Speaker 1: in trouble. Um was stalking a political opponent who was
Speaker 1: running against him, a teacher who he falsely accused of
Speaker 1: sexual misconduct with the student and of being a segregationist
Speaker 1: and in favor of white supremacy. Um he used fake
Speaker 1: Twitter and Facebook accounts to post private and ormation about
Speaker 1: this person that you think he had obtained from government databases.
Speaker 1: And you should be doing a behind the bastards on
Speaker 1: this dude. We we might. He's it's pretty I'm there's
Speaker 1: it's the kind of thing. There's not quite enough yet,
Speaker 1: just because I'm sure a lot more is going to
Speaker 1: come out as this case develops. But anyway, this close
Speaker 1: friend of Matt Gates who was accused of sexually trafficking
Speaker 1: a girl Um during the same period of time he
Speaker 1: took a picture with Roger Stone and Matt Gates. There
Speaker 1: were also reports that have come out in Washington Post
Speaker 1: in The New York Times that stated other other people
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill Um, other like Republicans, saying yeah, Matt
Speaker 1: Gates bragged about the access to women he got because
Speaker 1: he knew Joel Greenberg, who seems to have been doing
Speaker 1: something of like a pimping enterprise. UM, So Gates showed
Speaker 1: pictures of naked women, bragged about doing illegal drugs and
Speaker 1: partying with them, and bragged about his friendship with Greenberg
Speaker 1: and how it gave him access to these chambers. Gates, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he bragged about this in it in Congress, UM. And
Speaker 1: that is why so the the the FEDS are now
Speaker 1: investigating Gates because Greenberg's the The investigation into Greenberg suggested
Speaker 1: that Gates may have may have himself sexually trafficked UM,
Speaker 1: which in this case would probably mean having sex with
Speaker 1: a a child that Greenberg was trafficking, but like he
Speaker 1: himself might have like moved that that minor across state
Speaker 1: that we don't we don't exactly know, but he's he's
Speaker 1: being investigated for sex trafficking of a minor in addition
Speaker 1: to that, because it's possible he did not. He did not.
Speaker 1: The stuff about the minor will turn out he was
Speaker 1: not guilty of the other stuff he's being accused of,
Speaker 1: is um sex trafficking in general, because he was he
Speaker 1: may have been giving paying for hotel rooms and flights
Speaker 1: and meals and just giving money UM. Potentially even like
Speaker 1: campaign donations. Two women in exchange for sex, which is
Speaker 1: also a crime. Um and he may also have been,
Speaker 1: like he definitely was doing illegal drugs. He bragged about
Speaker 1: it to a bunch of people. There's some evidence of that,
Speaker 1: like evidence of him doing M D M A and ship.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's bad. Well it's bad in the way
Speaker 1: that like it's the kind of thing. Sorry, it's just
Speaker 1: like the kind of thing where it's like, if you
Speaker 1: were another person, it would be like some of like
Speaker 1: some of the things obviously, like the underaging, like the
Speaker 1: sex trafficking is like terrible and abhorrant. But if it's
Speaker 1: like if it were like okay, sex workers and drugs,
Speaker 1: I got no issue with that, Like technically right, Like
Speaker 1: technically I wouldn't care if lady who thinks those things
Speaker 1: should be legal any exactly. Like he's he like he
Speaker 1: likes demanded like drug testing for to like qualify for
Speaker 1: like welfare programs and things like that, Like it's antithetical
Speaker 1: to who he is as a legislator. Yeah, demanding drug
Speaker 1: testing for people to receive welfare and then using campaign
Speaker 1: contributions to pay for drugs for prostitute using the campaign
Speaker 1: contributions in general is also bad. Um, Yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's a lot that is a problem because and again,
Speaker 1: if he were like, if you weren't using campaign money,
Speaker 1: and if he were like straight up like I think
Speaker 1: sex work and drugs should all be legal, I would
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, this guy is living his truth. You know,
Speaker 1: as long as everyone's an adult, as long as everybody's consenting,
Speaker 1: I don't really give it and working against the interests
Speaker 1: of a certain group while also amusing them. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna resign? I don't know it coming
Speaker 1: to depends because we don't know. As much as much
Speaker 1: joy as Twitter has had about like as much I
Speaker 1: like the allegations of yes, as much has come down
Speaker 1: about the allegations of child sex trafficking, we don't know
Speaker 1: that he did, and we don't know that he'll get
Speaker 1: charged with that. Right. Um the FBI or who did
Speaker 1: not come out and say we're investing, because they don't
Speaker 1: say that, like they don't comment on ongoing investigations. We
Speaker 1: know there's an investigation. We know that whatever was found
Speaker 1: bad enough that um the former attorney general under Trump
Speaker 1: what was his fucking name? Um? Uh? Um the former
Speaker 1: a g under Trump bar No, no, no, No No, the
Speaker 1: bar bar the last one was was warned not to
Speaker 1: be and and like demanded might he not be like
Speaker 1: stopped attending events that Gates would be it because he
Speaker 1: didn't want to be photographed with him. Um, so it
Speaker 1: is bad enough that that bar I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be seen with this guy because he knew some about
Speaker 1: what was going to come out. Again, we don't know.
Speaker 1: It's possible like that the investigation will conclude and they'll
Speaker 1: charge him with a bunch of stuff, but none of
Speaker 1: it will involve child sex trafficking because maybe he wasn't
Speaker 1: involved in that part of it. We really don't know
Speaker 1: at this stage if he was. If the FEDS charge
Speaker 1: him with child sex trafficking Number one, the vast majority
Speaker 1: of the time, if the Feds charge you, you either
Speaker 1: plea or or are are wind up getting like declared
Speaker 1: guilty because as a general rule be Feds don't route
Speaker 1: charges unless they're pretty fucking confident that they can they
Speaker 1: can argue in a court of law. If the SAIDs
Speaker 1: charge him with child sex trafficking, it is a minimum
Speaker 1: ten year prison sentence, I mean, and the max is
Speaker 1: obviously life in prison. Um, I don't know that I
Speaker 1: think that's likely because it looks like he was more
Speaker 1: on the consumer end of this than the than like Greenberg,
Speaker 1: who I think might go away forever. Um, because it's
Speaker 1: it's like Greenberg might have actually been pimping children across
Speaker 1: state lines. I think it was more likely Gates was
Speaker 1: kind of um was a john. I guess you'd say,
Speaker 1: did you mention that he was photographed literally in the
Speaker 1: office after hours with Greenberg on a security camp stuplicating
Speaker 1: ideas or creating wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait?
Speaker 1: Gates was, Yeah, I believe there was. I think that
Speaker 1: this started off. We should double check this as I'm
Speaker 1: saying it, but I'll say that I know Greenberg had
Speaker 1: done that. According to one of the people familiar with
Speaker 1: the matter, and employee at the tax collector's office saw
Speaker 1: Greenberg and Gates on heternal office surveillance video looking through
Speaker 1: driver's licenses on a weekend evening. In a sex message
Speaker 1: exchange shared with CNN that the source said was between
Speaker 1: Greenberg and the employee, Greenberg confirmed he was in the office,
Speaker 1: quote showing Congressman Gates what our operation looked like. Oh gosh,
Speaker 1: that want to share the information. Yeah, you always as
Speaker 1: a sitting congressman, want to see what a state tax
Speaker 1: collectors operation, how they make I d s. Yeah that's amazing. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: boys traveling might be muddying the waters. But regardless, I mean,
Speaker 1: if there's if they especially if they can tie, and
Speaker 1: I don't know that they'd be able to. But like,
Speaker 1: if Greenberg was making fake I das for underage girls
Speaker 1: in order to bring traffick them across state lines, and
Speaker 1: Matt Gates had any sort of hand in that, even
Speaker 1: if he was just standing there, that's a problem that
Speaker 1: that could Yeah, that could be Matt Gates is oh boy, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a bad So. The thing that's interesting to me
Speaker 1: about this is that Gates has a reputation. His dad's
Speaker 1: rich as hell, um, his family is powerful. He had
Speaker 1: a reputation in his hometown of being like a spoiled
Speaker 1: rich kid who got away with everything, right. He had
Speaker 1: some like drunk driving ship in his background. He's just
Speaker 1: a rich asshole who never yeah, exactly. He's not someone
Speaker 1: who deals with consequences. And you get this. I think
Speaker 1: Greenberg's the same way, because they were both just just criming,
Speaker 1: like and I think about right, like I'm not. I'm like,
Speaker 1: obviously I'm I'm a white dude. You know, I benefit
Speaker 1: from plenty of privilege. But as when I was when
Speaker 1: I was young, like I remember driving a home with
Speaker 1: weed that I bought and like taping it to the
Speaker 1: inside of my thigh and like almost having a panic
Speaker 1: attack just seeing a police officer on the road, and
Speaker 1: this like this nightmare every time I went to we
Speaker 1: because it was so frightened of potentially like getting caught.
Speaker 1: And Matt Gates is just just just not just climbing
Speaker 1: like well, it's a combination of think it'll be fine,
Speaker 1: well because like I mean, he usually is, because it's
Speaker 1: like it's part of it is that like his upbringing
Speaker 1: and his like experience with like getting away with everything,
Speaker 1: and part of it is like, oh, I'm like sucking
Speaker 1: the Trump train. Trump train. You can say whatever the
Speaker 1: funk you want and do whatever you want and there
Speaker 1: are no consequences. Uh, and we're going to be in
Speaker 1: power forever. Yeah. America America loves it's bad boys. America
Speaker 1: loves the handsome. I'm not saying he's handsome, but some
Speaker 1: might call as such. You know, white man, eric human male,
Speaker 1: he's f male. You know, uh, they like that people
Speaker 1: respond to that bullshit. I will say I get frustrated
Speaker 1: when whenever a story of a lawmaker with inappropriate whatever's
Speaker 1: comes up, we immediately turned to al Franken as like,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have done this, see learned from our past.
Speaker 1: And my whole thing is that I I very much
Speaker 1: respect I still respect what al Franken did because it
Speaker 1: didn't actually make a goddamn bit of difference. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the person that replaced him votes
Speaker 1: the same. I just get really frustrated that al Franken's
Speaker 1: legacy is now, oh, he shouldn't have done that, when
Speaker 1: actually what he did was um the right thing to do,
Speaker 1: and you would expect that just because we know that
Speaker 1: nobody else will do it either doesn't mean that that
Speaker 1: was the mistake, you know. And again it didn't change
Speaker 1: anything from us except for us except maybe some less
Speaker 1: entertaining cross examinations in here. That's that's the thing that
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up. It's one of those things.
Speaker 1: It um, I don't know like for one thing, I'm
Speaker 1: actually I the similarity I guess between the two is
Speaker 1: that they both um were accused of doing bad things
Speaker 1: and Franken admitted to you know, physical what I would
Speaker 1: what I think would be like physical assault is probably
Speaker 1: fair to say, certainly sexually sexual harassment. Um, Matt Gates
Speaker 1: is being accused of sexually trafficking a child while a
Speaker 1: city congressman. Comparing these two things, of course, like in
Speaker 1: terms of like also that equates Al Franken with people
Speaker 1: that are evil, you know, um, Whereas that was a
Speaker 1: fucked up thing he did, and I'm glad that he
Speaker 1: is accountable for it and hopefully has grown and learned
Speaker 1: from this experience. But it's it's different, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: one of the differences would be that I think the
Speaker 1: properly response for what well, yeah, that's a big one.
Speaker 1: But I think also like okay, like on someone's boobs, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: being caught doing what Al Franken did, the proper consequence was, yeah,
Speaker 1: you should you should step away, Like you you'll lose
Speaker 1: your job, you lisha place in the spotlight, like because
Speaker 1: you you did a thing and you should step away.
Speaker 1: The proper consequence for sexually trafficking a child is significantly
Speaker 1: more severe. You know, he's not going to resign, He'll
Speaker 1: be like, look, we can work from anywhere after. And
Speaker 1: I think the only like, the only he probably won't resign.
Speaker 1: He probably he might get reelected. He like, the way
Speaker 1: to get rid of him is if he goes to
Speaker 1: prison mostly. Um, but I do think that there is
Speaker 1: a small chance he will resign because nobody in the
Speaker 1: party actually likes him. Yeah, he is an unlikable trash person, um,
Speaker 1: and nobody in his party likes him. So it's not
Speaker 1: even like there's an element of like they don't even
Speaker 1: want him around, like this is an excuse to get
Speaker 1: rid of him, if anything, um, if they even if
Speaker 1: it was any different, like if not even that they
Speaker 1: don't like him. But it's like I have no opinion
Speaker 1: on that guy, they would be going to bat for him, um,
Speaker 1: but nobody really is going to bat for him, Jim
Speaker 1: Jordan's except for except for Jim Jordan's but not really
Speaker 1: just kind of yeah, it's interesting, I again, Yeah, Jim
Speaker 1: Jordan has strong feelings on sexually trafficking miners. Um, positive
Speaker 1: strong feelings. Actually he is for against them. It is
Speaker 1: funny that gets was the only member of the House
Speaker 1: to vote against a human trafficking bill. Really, yeah, government interesting,
Speaker 1: it's incredible, Um. Yeah, smart guy, really smart guy. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he's he's a piece of ship. It's funny that bad
Speaker 1: things are happening to him. It's not funny that he
Speaker 1: probably well that he allegedly contributed to harm to a child. Um,
Speaker 1: and it's not funny. Well, it is kind of funny
Speaker 1: that he was engaging with prostitutes and doing illegal drugs
Speaker 1: while arguing that those things should stay illegal. It's a
Speaker 1: very dark that's why, that's why, very very dark comedy. Um,
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break for you know, they add advertisements,
Speaker 1: adds uh the French together everything back from the ads
Speaker 1: were back from the act. I needed that little infusion energy, Cody,
Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, it did not make my head immediately
Speaker 1: start to pound. Yeah, before we move on, my favorite
Speaker 1: part of the Joel Greenberg, Um, my favorite part of
Speaker 1: the Joel Greenberg saga is that, uh, he was a
Speaker 1: crypto guy like little Cherry, Like he's sexually trafficking children,
Speaker 1: he's moving moving pounds, he's doing all this illegal stuff.
Speaker 1: He's impersonating a police officer, he's stalking his political about
Speaker 1: and he's is running in a legal crypto rig that
Speaker 1: lit a government office on fire. Oh yeah, so many,
Speaker 1: so many yummy details here. If he wasn't probably incarcerated
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life following his trial, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he would have gotten involved in n F T
Speaker 1: S m oh. I still don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I still don't want to know. It's okay, they're crashing.
Speaker 1: If you can imagine if you could look at a
Speaker 1: jpeg and it would destroy four acres of forest in
Speaker 1: the Amazon and not be worth anything in a few weeks,
Speaker 1: what a dream. I would say instantly, not worth it instantly,
Speaker 1: just based on my own moral judgment of value. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: we should, we should move, We should we talk about
Speaker 1: other things, like potentially vaccine passports. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about vaccine. I only support them. It's exactly like the
Speaker 1: scene in the third Indiana Jones movie when Indiana Jones
Speaker 1: is demanding tickets in the blimp and then the guy
Speaker 1: doesn't have a Well, the guy realizes that he's not
Speaker 1: a real ticket collector and he punches the man out
Speaker 1: of the blimp. Only if the consequence is being thrown
Speaker 1: out of a blimp specifically, so like you gotta better
Speaker 1: hurry up, Yeah, yeah, we gotta hurt. He's gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna crash a plane into Sana Monica for
Speaker 1: the last time. So, um, where's your ticket. So, those
Speaker 1: of you guys that don't know, a vaccine passport is
Speaker 1: a government issue card or a smartphone badge that states
Speaker 1: that the bearer has been vaccinated against coronavirus. And it's
Speaker 1: been in the news a lot lately, or at least
Speaker 1: it's been in the Zeitgeiston on Twitter, you know, people
Speaker 1: arguing about it. And you know, it's pretty easy for
Speaker 1: us to knee jerk disagree with conservatives these days. I
Speaker 1: think collectively, we it's fun to dunk Ondoctor Drew when
Speaker 1: he tweets about not wanting to need a vaccination in
Speaker 1: order to fly, and remind him that, yeah, actually a
Speaker 1: lot of countries do require vaccinations before you enter. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not a new concept. So that's fun. But but
Speaker 1: it's not to say that people pushing back against vaccine
Speaker 1: passports are wrong. It's a complicated conversation. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of people probably do
Speaker 1: agree that proof of vaccination is good at least for
Speaker 1: like international travel, you know, going other places. Again, this
Speaker 1: is not something new, Um, and like and yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they're The argument being that, you know, people would need
Speaker 1: to show um proof of vaccination before entering certain establishments
Speaker 1: and businesses. Uh, you know, and and would say that
Speaker 1: this would be very helpful in stopping the spread and
Speaker 1: also encouraging people to get vaccinated. But it raises a
Speaker 1: lot of very important ethical questions that aren't exactly they
Speaker 1: aren't easy to answer. You know. For one, in general,
Speaker 1: vaccinations UM and vaccines at this point are going overwhelmingly
Speaker 1: to rich countries, and even within those countries, um uh
Speaker 1: to privilege racial groups within them. UM, So granting rights
Speaker 1: to people that are vaccinating vaccinated while also keeping other
Speaker 1: groups restricted, you know, is dangerous. It widens the social
Speaker 1: gap um. And then specifically here in America, both culturally
Speaker 1: and politically, you can't just force somebody to get vaccinated,
Speaker 1: you know. Individual liberty is kind of our thing, um
Speaker 1: you know, and so like if that's true, which it is, Uh,
Speaker 1: can a business discriminate against a person who chooses not
Speaker 1: to be vaccinated? Can an employer tell an employee that
Speaker 1: they can't work till they're vaccinated? Is that that's not
Speaker 1: you know, it's not legal? Yeah, I the only thing
Speaker 1: that like, there's a couple of things that concern mean.
Speaker 1: One of them is I'm not concerned with saying, hey,
Speaker 1: people from rich countries, if you're gonna go vacation in
Speaker 1: a poorer part of the world, you need to be
Speaker 1: vaccinated and we won't let you go. Uh. I am
Speaker 1: concerned about it kind of working in the other way
Speaker 1: in part because that's like there's been a as you stated,
Speaker 1: where vaccines go has been heavily dependent upon like wealth.
Speaker 1: And I'm just not super cool with the idea of
Speaker 1: restricting poor people from traveling but letting rich people go
Speaker 1: to their countries to get drunk on the beach. That
Speaker 1: doesn't seem rad and and I'm I'm I'm also concerned
Speaker 1: about having the passports be something domestically um, because I
Speaker 1: don't like the idea of having any kind of domestic
Speaker 1: passport that determines when and where you can go into
Speaker 1: a business. UM. I feel like, yeah, anyway, that's that.
Speaker 1: It's hard because you want to get people back, You
Speaker 1: want businesses and economy to to get you know, you,
Speaker 1: you want things to get back on track at some point,
Speaker 1: and it's hard at this stage when we're a country
Speaker 1: that's so divided. And yes, vaccinations are up, but you
Speaker 1: know they use this as a thing like get your
Speaker 1: vaccination and then everything can go back to normal. But again,
Speaker 1: you just can't. Can't do it. Not everyone. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going to get it, and like yeah, if you're a restaurant,
Speaker 1: but also yeah, if you like on a restaurant or
Speaker 1: something like, I want my entire staff to be vaccinated. Um,
Speaker 1: can you not do that? This would be a lot
Speaker 1: easier morally if we had some sort of a basic
Speaker 1: income UM. Yeah. Although that said, there is right right now,
Speaker 1: we're in a situation where an awful lot of of
Speaker 1: businesses are UM like, particularly service businesses aren't able to
Speaker 1: hire enough employees because the unemployment benefits are decent enough
Speaker 1: and people don't want to risk their lives working at
Speaker 1: the sparrow during a pandemic UM specifically speak Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. And one other thing I wanted to mention,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's your that's a good point, Robert Um.
Speaker 1: But one other thing I wanted to mention about packs
Speaker 1: passports is um access question that it raises. So the
Speaker 1: easiest way to carry a vaccination passport would be on
Speaker 1: your smartphone, but of course not everybody has access to that. Uh.
Speaker 1: And yes, physical cards are an option, but those are
Speaker 1: very easy to lose, etcetera. So so what is that?
Speaker 1: What what does this create? You know, people with more
Speaker 1: access are more likely to be able to keep and
Speaker 1: carry one of these things. Yeah. Like also like how
Speaker 1: much information do you like that? Do you How much
Speaker 1: identifying information do you want on your smartphone? Uh? And uh,
Speaker 1: you know your your health trackable? Do you want all?
Speaker 1: But another thing? Yes? Yeah? Um uh. What's frustrating about
Speaker 1: the conversation though, a little bit although not surprising, is
Speaker 1: that at this point anyway, Biden isn't actually calling for
Speaker 1: a federal vaccination passport as far as I can tell anyway.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they're being sneaky about it in political
Speaker 1: but I don't think that that's a good politics for them,
Speaker 1: you know. And Jen passing pas sorry Jen sacky? Is that?
Speaker 1: How am I pronouncing it right? Zack? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: she said there will not be a centralized federal database
Speaker 1: showing who in the country has received vaccinations, and there
Speaker 1: are no plans for any federal mandate that all citizens
Speaker 1: have a vaccination credential. Um. And so it's interesting but
Speaker 1: not surprising is that this is all being framed as
Speaker 1: Democrats and big brother where as what's actually happening right
Speaker 1: now is that the Biden team is, you know, speaking
Speaker 1: with different industries and talking about how they would work
Speaker 1: within those realms, which maybe we shouldn't be entertaining. I
Speaker 1: I don't know that's the moral question, but I do
Speaker 1: understand and that in facility like gyms and different facilities
Speaker 1: where that it it has to at least be talked
Speaker 1: about how we are proceeding from this point forward. Um.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, yeah, like Jim's you know,
Speaker 1: Jim's have been open. There have been gym's open without
Speaker 1: the vaccine um and uh, you know whether it's like okay,
Speaker 1: well you can't like require poping at the vaccine, so
Speaker 1: do the safety measures still? Things like that, like what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? It's not because it's not like
Speaker 1: you said, like, it's not they're not saying they're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. It's a conversations being had, and not just
Speaker 1: because like the Biden is going out to these like industries,
Speaker 1: because it's the logical conversation you would have in every
Speaker 1: country in the world is having, right, Maybe not every
Speaker 1: country about most countries and maybe like you know, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a quick conversation and people will land on like, well, no,
Speaker 1: we're not going to do that. Um. But the fact
Speaker 1: that the conversation is being had now, I think it's
Speaker 1: like generally it was good too. But the but the
Speaker 1: rhetoric of this is Democrats wanting to have control over
Speaker 1: all of Oh yes, the communist the communist Democrats. But
Speaker 1: it's it's frustrating to see because that's not the conversation,
Speaker 1: that's not actually what's happening. And it also kind of
Speaker 1: undermines what we're doing right now. It clouds the conversation.
Speaker 1: It adds more fuel to this you know, rhetoric and
Speaker 1: continues to polarize the country about vaccinations and science and
Speaker 1: um and and just how we get out of this, uh,
Speaker 1: which which is why I wanted a part of the
Speaker 1: why I wanted to bring it up, because it's just
Speaker 1: we're not going to solve it here. But it's frustrating,
Speaker 1: and it's frustrating in like it's the it's an extension
Speaker 1: of you know what a year a year ago, UH,
Speaker 1: former president current loser Trump UH decided to make masks
Speaker 1: mask wearing political you made, you maded a culture war issue,
Speaker 1: and then here we are. Um, and that has extended
Speaker 1: now to the vaccine and all the all the stuff
Speaker 1: we're talking about, um to the point where you get
Speaker 1: people like, well, now, like I've seen people compare like
Speaker 1: the idea of this vaccine passport to the Holocaust. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was God made Marjorie Taylor Green. It's actually disgusting
Speaker 1: what she said. I'm sure all of the people doing
Speaker 1: that have opinions about the Holocaust that are, shall we say,
Speaker 1: a historical Yeah, Marjorie Taylor Green called it called the
Speaker 1: passport idea quote Biden's mark of the Beast. Uh, and
Speaker 1: and other conservative activists are comparing it. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: like it's just this extension of like, yeah, it's very frustrating. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just what happens with everything now, Like it's what
Speaker 1: happens with absolutely everything. Now. If there were like massive
Speaker 1: unprecedented flooding that let's say a hundred million Americans were
Speaker 1: for set of their homes and Joe Biden advised people
Speaker 1: to use like inflatable rafts to escape the flooding, it
Speaker 1: would drowning would become a culture war issue. Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to be posting like I'm gonna burn my raft watch
Speaker 1: my video. I'm no longer buying these rafts from this company. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your little fucking coward boats man. I struggle against the
Speaker 1: tide until I drown. Commies invented rafts, and I will
Speaker 1: have nothing to do. That would be Ted Cruise's last tweet.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, yeah, exactly, Yeah, God, I should we shouldn't
Speaker 1: talk about things that are that optimistic. Um. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a bummer. Everything's frustrate. It's one of those things
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Katie, like going going, getting back on track,
Speaker 1: going back to the way things were. Um. I think
Speaker 1: one of the things that's a bummer is that I
Speaker 1: think the things will get back to There will be
Speaker 1: some positives, will be able to go to concerts again.
Speaker 1: We will to go to festivals again. That's gonna be nice,
Speaker 1: being able to just I think we're all looking forward
Speaker 1: to just sitting down in a goddamn bar. Um. That
Speaker 1: will be nice. Um. But the stuff that's worst, that
Speaker 1: has continued to be bad during the pandemic, never got
Speaker 1: off track, this like a constantly accelerating culture war. And
Speaker 1: the stuff that's good, for example, um, low income workers
Speaker 1: in the service industry being able to just not work
Speaker 1: because the unemployment benefits are are good enough, uh, and
Speaker 1: actually being able to exert some some influence and force
Speaker 1: against their employers. That's going to go away, like fucking that.
Speaker 1: And that's a bummer because it's rad um and I
Speaker 1: don't like. I wasn't happy with the way things were
Speaker 1: before the pandemic. Um not super happy with the pandemic either,
Speaker 1: mind you, But um, I don't know. No, you're right,
Speaker 1: getting get back to normal. It's it's it's irresponsible to
Speaker 1: say we're trying to get back on track without also
Speaker 1: acknowledging that, yeah, from the tracks are rusty and broken,
Speaker 1: the trains keep going off and start your brush fire.
Speaker 1: If you're on a train that's going over a giant
Speaker 1: poop swamp and its destination is an enormous pile of poop,
Speaker 1: you would prefer to be on the train, then off
Speaker 1: of the tracks in the poop swamp. But also the train,
Speaker 1: like the train reaching its destination, isn't going to solve
Speaker 1: your problems. Either way, You're gonna wind up covered in
Speaker 1: ship statistics questions that I can never get right. The
Speaker 1: answer is to fire bomb the poop swamp from the sky.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, well I poop burns pretty well. Next
Speaker 1: stop rubble, next stop rubble, which solves all. Okay, so
Speaker 1: maybe there's I don't have any solutions, um there are none.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. I mean fight for expanded benefits that are
Speaker 1: just a thing everyone gets, so that workers can continue
Speaker 1: to exercise more agency, right like I learned the lessons
Speaker 1: from the pandemic, and also and like work for a
Speaker 1: world like world where like if it happens again, uh,
Speaker 1: it won't be that situation. We will have stronger I
Speaker 1: mean hopefully some things and some things that I'm hopeful stick.
Speaker 1: I mean there's lots of stuff um in the pipeline,
Speaker 1: like you know, hr one, we talked about that on
Speaker 1: even More News last week, and some great things in there.
Speaker 1: This isn't talking about workers rights right now, but or
Speaker 1: in um uh the last COVID relief bill, how direct
Speaker 1: payments to families with children I have an authorized for
Speaker 1: a year, but they plan on making that a permanent
Speaker 1: legislation or pushing for it. And you know, as we've
Speaker 1: talked about on these shows a lot, once you establish something,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to walk it back when people get
Speaker 1: used to it. I'm hopeful that there are some things
Speaker 1: and perhaps yeah, maybe some expansion of of unemployment benefits.
Speaker 1: But when you talk about this in conjunction with vaccine
Speaker 1: fast forwards like we just did, and you know that
Speaker 1: workers rightfully don't want to go back to less money
Speaker 1: for dangerous situations, it's hard to imagine that that won't
Speaker 1: be fought against by lawmakers anyway. Yeah, and it's attempt
Speaker 1: to inject something positive. Yeah, they're getting back to work
Speaker 1: on the wall, yeah exactly, Like yeah, I gotta fill
Speaker 1: in those gaps. Um, we gotta build back better, build
Speaker 1: the wall back better. Exactly. Um, that's fun for them, um.
Speaker 1: And like it's just yeah, it's a So many of
Speaker 1: these things are so hard to remove from, like the
Speaker 1: toxic culture war stuff, that it's hard to even say,
Speaker 1: like what will happen because oh, yeah, you just don't know.
Speaker 1: Um yeah. Like for like uh, for example, like Katie
Speaker 1: mentioned the the HR one, and in response to that,
Speaker 1: you have Georgia uh and their election law. Um, And
Speaker 1: then you have companies responding to that, and then congress
Speaker 1: people responding to the companies for being too woke and
Speaker 1: do and like threatening like good legislation. Uh, simply because
Speaker 1: of like a woke company. Um. And it's just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you know, that's really interesting and I
Speaker 1: think we should dig into it right after we take
Speaker 1: a quick ad break, because Sophie just tested and said
Speaker 1: ad break, so I am break. Also, if I'm being honest,
Speaker 1: between you, my four four close friends, and the thousands
Speaker 1: of people listening, I have to pee, so I would
Speaker 1: like to take the ad break. It's time together everything. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: now we're back. Yeah, welcome back to the big, exciting,
Speaker 1: high energy cheers for Sophie specifically, Wait, are we going
Speaker 1: to do the T three structure out segment? Oh cool,
Speaker 1: it's that's that. We're just gonna repeat that over and
Speaker 1: over and over time seven minutes. I wait, are we
Speaker 1: talking about baseball? Because I will tell yeah, yeah, we're talking.
Speaker 1: I do not consent. We're talking about baseball and soda
Speaker 1: and soda pop and you love soda pop. Robert. We
Speaker 1: just went into detail about your love of Zia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was satisfied. It's a really good sound, all right,
Speaker 1: Dr Pepper, but not all that much take us away
Speaker 1: on baseball, and we're also talking about weakens. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so as I'm sure everybody knows and we have alluded
Speaker 1: to and talked about before, Georgia has a bill about
Speaker 1: election laws that is not so great for access to voting. UM.
Speaker 1: It is being framed as sort of like really like
Speaker 1: enforcing like election integrity. UM, but it makes voting harder
Speaker 1: in in several ways. We have an episode on even
Speaker 1: More News that delves deep into this. UM. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: talked with the guys over End Goal over at five
Speaker 1: Food Cast, which is an awesome podcast that breaks down
Speaker 1: Supreme Court decisions and UM, and they're they're fun and funny. Anyway,
Speaker 1: check that out. We we talked about voting rights. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: check it out. UM and uh. In response to this UM,
Speaker 1: some companies have made either statements or moves, much like
Speaker 1: many companies do when they feel something is politically safe
Speaker 1: or could possibly benefit them monetarily. UM. Like companies do. UM,
Speaker 1: they don't mean it. They're not like they don't actually
Speaker 1: care about people, they care about their products. Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: not like Locas Coca Cola. It's just like, yeah, Coca
Speaker 1: Cola is like, oh, we'll do We'll do this because
Speaker 1: that's uh where the wind is blowing. Um that's how
Speaker 1: it happens. Um, it's why it happens. Also, today Coca
Speaker 1: Cola stock outperformed the market had a strong trading day
Speaker 1: on an otherwise poor trading day. Um, so it worked.
Speaker 1: Congratulations Coca Cola. Despite all these people, what did Coca
Speaker 1: Cola do too boycott this or to push back on this? Um?
Speaker 1: I think they just said it was bad. That's bad.
Speaker 1: It's not like LB actually like did a thing. But
Speaker 1: Coca Cola was just like, we don't like this bill,
Speaker 1: and everyone went fucking crazy. Exactly those foolish bucks. We
Speaker 1: all know Coca Cola is superior to PEPSI fight me
Speaker 1: on it being accurate, but Dr Pepper is the superior beverage.
Speaker 1: Doctor Zevia, splash it up if you're a fan. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, the CEO of uh that's good? Is that
Speaker 1: your what numbers that for you? Today? You don't like
Speaker 1: this is just two for the day, just thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: You're full of ship. I know, but I just I
Speaker 1: woke up. I woke up at eleven thirty. I drank
Speaker 1: two pots of coffee, and then I had my first
Speaker 1: Zevia when we got on the phone, and my second
Speaker 1: thank you very much via Shaman. I'm not a lot
Speaker 1: of other things he drinks. But he just smiled and
Speaker 1: looked down because he knew he was lying. He's totally
Speaker 1: at more than I am not. These are the only
Speaker 1: two for today yet so far, I'll drink like six
Speaker 1: to nine more. Yeah, eventually a very long tangent. Well,
Speaker 1: so the CEO of Coca Cola said, let me be
Speaker 1: crystal clear and on equivocal, this legislation is unacceptable exactly.
Speaker 1: It is a step backward and it does not promote
Speaker 1: principles we have stood for in Georgia around broad access
Speaker 1: to voting, around voter convenience, about ensuring election integrity, and
Speaker 1: is frankly just to step backwards. And then then then
Speaker 1: they canceled the Coca Cola. Uh. Many Republicans came out
Speaker 1: in uh rage, outrage, one might say, uh, maybe one
Speaker 1: could even refer to them as being triggered by this
Speaker 1: UM but yeah, no, it's just a statement. It's not
Speaker 1: like the Major League Baseball moved the All our Game
Speaker 1: from Georgia to Colorado, UM, and that also got them canceled,
Speaker 1: UMU or boycotted, whichever side of the issue you're on. Really,
Speaker 1: it really depends, doesn't it, Because cancel culture is a
Speaker 1: meaningless phrase um that has actually always existed. It is
Speaker 1: an evaluation of a society's values um and uh acceptance
Speaker 1: of those values and enforcement of them via these But
Speaker 1: like a boycott, that's what that's what it is. These
Speaker 1: companies are reading the winds, guys, they're not. That is
Speaker 1: literally what it is. So maybe you should too. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Well so yeah, so here's the thing, um,
Speaker 1: when this happened, all these fucking centers like Ted Cruz
Speaker 1: is now trying to work to end MLB's uh antitrust immunity.
Speaker 1: But like it's all based off of this like framing
Speaker 1: of it's because their woke Josh Holly, the woke capitalists
Speaker 1: continue their campaign and retaliation. They shouldn't have this, and
Speaker 1: it's just like this bizarre framing of like, well, if
Speaker 1: you're if you're a corporate woke company, then we're gonna
Speaker 1: go after you. If you're not, then I guess we won't.
Speaker 1: And it's okay, it's it's their relationship with these companies.
Speaker 1: And now they're saying like, well, Colorado has laws that
Speaker 1: are very similar to the ones Georgia past and that's
Speaker 1: not true either. UM. Colorado has had absentee voting for
Speaker 1: quite a long time. Most people vote by mail. Like
Speaker 1: people vote by mail, Um, it makes it easier to
Speaker 1: vote in Colorado. It does not do that in Georgia.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of piece out there you can find.
Speaker 1: Delve into it from election experts. UM, it's just another side.
Speaker 1: They got tired of talking about Dr Seuss. So here
Speaker 1: we are, UM, and they're framing it like they're like
Speaker 1: these anti corporate populists or whatever. UM. And that couldn't
Speaker 1: be farther from the truth. Literally, McConnell came out today,
Speaker 1: UH against these these woke corporations parts of the private
Speaker 1: sector keep dabbling and behaving like a woke parallel government.
Speaker 1: Corporations will invite serious consequences if they become a vehicle
Speaker 1: for far left mobs to hijack our country from outside
Speaker 1: the constitutional order. So if you're a company that does
Speaker 1: things that they don't like, they will go after you,
Speaker 1: is what he basically said. Better he confirmed for reasons,
Speaker 1: it's very different from cancer culture. For reasons, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: one little extra bit from McConnell. This quote about uh
Speaker 1: MLB coke and Delta, who all did different kinds of things.
Speaker 1: Coke just made a fucking statement. Um my warning to
Speaker 1: corporate America is to stay out of politics. He added,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about political contributions. Of course he's not.
Speaker 1: He's not. That's what an absolute laying it all out there,
Speaker 1: just laying it all out that's the that's the deal.
Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. They're full of ship completely, nothing matters.
Speaker 1: You're a person, you're if you're a company or a person.
Speaker 1: If you give the money, but if you've have a
Speaker 1: statement from your CEO about a law, then then they
Speaker 1: go after you. It's all bullshit. It's amazing, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: We want your money, but shut up. Powerful powerful energy
Speaker 1: from from the dying Mitch McConnell, the crumbling body politics,
Speaker 1: your bank accounts are fine, and like they're not gonna
Speaker 1: do anything like this and antitrust stuff, all this stuff.
Speaker 1: They're not. Actually, they can't actually go after corporations because
Speaker 1: they've spent decades and decades building a relationship between politics
Speaker 1: and corporations. That's what they have done. Um, if they
Speaker 1: actually believed any of this, McConnell wouldn't have sent the
Speaker 1: attributions part yeah, I and yeah, it's I don't want
Speaker 1: to get it too much into it. Um, it's all there.
Speaker 1: Everybody's a liar. It's so frustrating to watch, like even
Speaker 1: I see all you see all these takes sort of
Speaker 1: like actually, if you look into the Georgia lots, this
Speaker 1: and this and this, it's for fraud and this right
Speaker 1: the governor Camp literally said it is on tape saying
Speaker 1: it's not about voter fraud. So like it's like just
Speaker 1: like an like a constant flow of just like trying
Speaker 1: trying to take these people at a like at their word.
Speaker 1: And I don't know possibly why why you would ever
Speaker 1: do that other than you want to help them with
Speaker 1: their bullshit. It's just frustrating. And I don't even have
Speaker 1: a point with this. It's just, uh, woke means nothing.
Speaker 1: It's a meaningless word. Uh. They say that Coca Cola
Speaker 1: is a woke communist company for their CEO saying they
Speaker 1: didn't like a law, but please give us money. Still,
Speaker 1: it's all just dogshite, like nothing. They're they're calling for
Speaker 1: boycotts of these companies. That's what that's gonna be. The
Speaker 1: hill we die on is debunking cancel culture. It's not
Speaker 1: even like debunking, because it's like it's always been a thing.
Speaker 1: It's you. I know you are, I know you know.
Speaker 1: The actual cancel culture that Coca Cola was involved in.
Speaker 1: They canceled cocaine. They did do that, but also between
Speaker 1: nine between nineteen ninety and two thousand two, they hired
Speaker 1: hitman uh from a prominent paramilitary right wing group to
Speaker 1: murder left wing activists in Colombia. That's news to me.
Speaker 1: Labor union leaders who were they know, hey, they can't.
Speaker 1: They canceled the labor They canceled at least ten labor
Speaker 1: union leaders who are trying to organize Coca Cola plants. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think I've got to switch my allegiance, my Coca
Speaker 1: Cola allegiance. What is what's what's vis colch Is it
Speaker 1: just via backs? They back a ton of death squad
Speaker 1: They all make your own soda. But zas Zvia's death
Speaker 1: squads are Zevia doesn't unlike Coca Cola, who goes out
Speaker 1: of the United States to hire assassins, would we have
Speaker 1: out of work murderers here? Zevia hires local assassins to
Speaker 1: murder labor union leaders. And that's America for average. It's
Speaker 1: not great, but it's something. M I think that does
Speaker 1: it for us today. We're done. I think that's going
Speaker 1: to do it for us today. We but you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave it with you with this. Keep
Speaker 1: it real. Yeah, I'm trying something out. It didn't work.
Speaker 1: It didn't work, but I'm gonna double down. Keep it real, y'all,
Speaker 1: keep so dumb everything so it's not again. I tried. Dan.
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