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Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kickoff Live here, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Corps Light on Giants dot Com. Joining me today

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Speaker 1: my colleague, good buddy Paul Latino. Dave Dominic taking care

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Speaker 1: of the controls. I am Russ Salzburg, and Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: an unusual. Well, I don't know if we should say

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Speaker 1: it's an unusual, it's not the norm because it's Tuesday

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Speaker 1: and we got a game coming up on Thursday against

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Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champion New England Patriots in New England.

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Speaker 1: And you and I are pretty positive when it comes

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Speaker 1: to talking about where we're certainly glass half full guys, Paul,

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Speaker 1: But all things considered injuries and everything else, I would

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Speaker 1: say it's taller than a tall order for the Giants

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Speaker 1: this coming Thursday night in uh, New England. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's any question about that. And just to

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Speaker 1: update folks on exactly what's going on with the injury situation,

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Speaker 1: Wayne Goldman and Sterling Shepard the only two players who

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Speaker 1: did not participate in practice today. It was a shell's practice,

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Speaker 1: which means shoulder pads only, no contact. Uh. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like a fancy walk through, if you will. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And coach Sherman would only say that those two guys

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Speaker 1: did not participate. He would not discuss any other injury

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Speaker 1: status with any of the other players. We have talked

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Speaker 1: with ale Golgiltree in the locker room, who was coming

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Speaker 1: off of a hamstring did not play last week. He

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Speaker 1: said he did everything that the coaches asked him to

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Speaker 1: do and he expects and plans to play in Foxborough

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Speaker 1: against the Patriots. As far as the other injured guy

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Speaker 1: of note, obviously Evan Ingram, uh. You know, there have

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Speaker 1: been reports out there that coach Shermer said he has

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Speaker 1: no idea where they came from because they did not

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Speaker 1: come from him, suggesting that he won't go. Ingram was

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Speaker 1: doing everything that they asked him to do during the

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Speaker 1: open media portion of practice. And say Kwan Barkley also

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Speaker 1: did all the warm ups in the individual drills. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And he said that no decision has been made as

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Speaker 1: to his status for the game as of yet. Well,

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Speaker 1: say Quon Barkley, you and myself, and I think pretty

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Speaker 1: much everybody with any kind of logic, you know, you

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Speaker 1: didn't expect you don't expect Quan to be playing Thursday

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Speaker 1: night against the Pages. What was a pleasant surprise coming

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Speaker 1: off a game where you know, we lost Sterling. Shep

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Speaker 1: and not sure how long it's to me, it definitely

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Speaker 1: has to be a couple of weeks for Sterling because

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Speaker 1: it's a second concussion within a month. But I was

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Speaker 1: really alarmed yesterday when I heard that Evan Ingram was

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Speaker 1: going from an m r I and the fact that

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Speaker 1: he was out there today really made me feel good

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Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. Number one for the young

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Speaker 1: man's health, because I've said this before and there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys in that locker room who get it,

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Speaker 1: but he's one of those guys who has gotten it

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Speaker 1: since the moment he was drafted. He's a terrific young man.

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Speaker 1: And you know, at the beginning of the season, if

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Speaker 1: you spoke to him, his main goal was staying healthy,

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Speaker 1: and he's gotten himself off to a very good start.

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Speaker 1: And then when I heard the knee, I said, oh

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Speaker 1: my goodness, that this is just too much, so for

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Speaker 1: him to be out there today, I thought that was

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Speaker 1: a very good sign. Having said that, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about key players on this team being uh injured

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Speaker 1: of certainly, say Quan, I think optimistically, if he continues

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Speaker 1: to heal the way he's showing. I would heavily speculate

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Speaker 1: that he would be back for the Cardinals game. And

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Speaker 1: what's that ten days or not the most logical, but

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Speaker 1: I was based on what we've seen. Yeah, and again

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Speaker 1: we're talking about no setbacks or anything else. Uh, nothings

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Speaker 1: in stone. On that, nothing's in stone. And you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: you play with what you have and you know, whether

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Speaker 1: you like it or not, it's next man up. That's

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Speaker 1: been the mantra of this team. It's been the mantra

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Speaker 1: of the head coach, Pat Sherman and everybody else. So

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Speaker 1: you're going into into New England when you hear the

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Speaker 1: questions that opposed to Pat Sherman, and I get it.

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Speaker 1: You know, people they want him to say something. He's

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Speaker 1: certainly not gonna say, well, we're up against it. We

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Speaker 1: can't go uh, we have no shot. I'm playing with backups.

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Speaker 1: He's not gonna say that. This is the professional for

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Speaker 1: the National Football League. It's pros. People are paid money

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Speaker 1: to go perform. It's that's why you're on the team.

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Speaker 1: That's why there's a fifty three man roster, so you

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Speaker 1: go perform and whether they're up to performing good enough

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Speaker 1: they got to go out there, and as you and

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Speaker 1: I said, they're up against it. Because you and I

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Speaker 1: were talking over lunch, Paul, and this might be. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it's the best defense that Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: And certainly it's been the best defense he's had in

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Speaker 1: but that's why he's so great because he's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: had a ton of Hall of famers on that side

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Speaker 1: of the ball over the years. He's had many more

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Speaker 1: quote superstar players on offense, as you have alluded to,

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Speaker 1: right yeah, and and and right now, I mean, look

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Speaker 1: at Jamie Collins, the linebacker. He's got four and a

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Speaker 1: half shacks to lead the Patriots this year. They have

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Speaker 1: twenty four, which is number one in the NFL by far.

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Speaker 1: Panthers have twenty their second. Think about this for a second.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Collins was on the team for a while. It

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Speaker 1: was okay, he goes to Cleveland. Nothing much over there

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Speaker 1: the key players on their defense. Just think about how

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Speaker 1: guys from other people's scrap heaps and not only make

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Speaker 1: them functional players, but still put together a top flight

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Speaker 1: defense with guys of that nature. That's unbelievable for us.

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Speaker 1: It really is. This is why there he's belicheck. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is why this is the Patriots, and but it

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Speaker 1: really is an exceptional defense. So, Uh, if you thought

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was tested last week, he's gonna he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get another big test this week. You know, in terms

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Speaker 1: of people wanting to check the boxes, if you will,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has checked all the boxes. Uh. Like, as

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Speaker 1: Paul and I were talking over lunch, we like to

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Speaker 1: see him get into the sliding a little better. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He certainly knows how to run. He's capable. And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you something else. The young man is as just

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Speaker 1: as tough as nails. Daniel Jones is the same thing

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Speaker 1: because he's like the old time ex commercial takes a

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Speaker 1: licking and keeps on ticking. He's taken some vicious hits

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Speaker 1: in his three games, and he took a lot of

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Speaker 1: and doesn't just hang in there, goes ahead and performs.

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Speaker 1: So um be better if he didn't take too many.

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Speaker 1: Well that's but that's exactly the point. I mean the

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Speaker 1: Having said that, let's open up the phone lines to

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Speaker 1: That is two zero one four five one three the number.

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Speaker 1: We have a phone line open. But right now, let's

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Speaker 1: go to Rochester and check in with Doug. Hello, Doug,

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Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Paul. Hey, well, hey Paul

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Speaker 1: you doing well? How you doing Dougie? Um, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: just all want to talk about the slot back position

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Speaker 1: um and Sunday's game. When Graham Henley was checking dealing

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Speaker 1: that the straw safety and Baza, he's supposed to go

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Speaker 1: Minnesota safety did broke up a couple of passes. He

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Speaker 1: know the mistakes like that. Do you agree with that?

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Speaker 1: I don't particularly recall. I mean to play that closely, Paul,

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Speaker 1: do you know I I'd have to go back and

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Speaker 1: Gray is un batch and that's the where it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to go. You you, you you, you can assume that,

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Speaker 1: but you don't know what the defensive call was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you see what. I understand you what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: You see, don't I don't see why you know he

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Speaker 1: didn't smash Doug. No, Doug. No one's arguing with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying to you, I don't recall exactly what

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Speaker 1: I mean, I take you at your word. I'm not disputing.

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Speaker 1: how to play the point. Yeah, but here's the problem,

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Speaker 1: here's the no. No, Look, look, I'm with you. I

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Speaker 1: Yankees beat the crap out. Okay, So I admit to that.

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Speaker 1: but it's really knows about that that part of the

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Speaker 1: sure the officers, this is coordinators could see it. A

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Speaker 1: lot of classes there they're not they're not good enough

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Speaker 1: So my question you is you think they want to

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Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Doug. I they're not giving up

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Speaker 1: But thanks for the called, Doug. Let's go down to

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Speaker 1: with Russ and Paul, Yes, what's up? Hello, And listen

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Speaker 1: that last car is correct right off the bat, I mean,

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Speaker 1: come out. The defense was so miserable, and the play

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Speaker 1: their best receiver was terrible and it happened several times.

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Speaker 1: So the defense on the side, that's not my first

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Speaker 1: just was terrible. The tackling was terrible. We have no linebacker.

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Speaker 1: But it is what it is. You know, as Paul said,

426
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Speaker 1: you didn't have who who didn't you have in there.

427
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Speaker 1: You didn't have Olga Try, you didn't have Lorenzo, you

428
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: didn't have Dave Davis. Yeah, if you don't have your

429
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: best linebackers in there, you're gonna suffer in every phase

430
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Speaker 1: of the game. By the way, the Patriots are only

431
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: run of the ball for nine yards a game and

432
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: only three and a half yards of carrying. If there's

433
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: one small, tiny blemish on what they've done to get

434
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: to five and oh it's that they do not have

435
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: a very strong running game. However, James White is their

436
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: second leading receiver on the team because coming out of

437
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: the backfield, he draws a mismatch against other teams linebackers.

438
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Speaker 1: Where do you think Belichick is going to focus some

439
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 1: of his efforts? Yeah, well, I mean serious, you know

440
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: what I would do, and he's a lot smarter than me. Well,

441
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, I was just gonna say that, um that

442
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: you know, even though we don't, you say that. You know,

443
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: coach isn't gonna make excuses, and you know I respect that.

444
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 1: That's what I want out of my coach, you know. Um,

445
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: But the reality is that, you know, a big part

446
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: of winning in the in the NFL is having your

447
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 1: best players. And you know, it's just like Super Bowl

448
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: forty two, Like not only do we have an improving

449
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: team the whole year, but we were healthy at the

450
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: end of the year and people got injured and came back.

451
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 1: You know, the performance. You know that everybody's hyping up

452
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: super Bowl forty two now because they just want to

453
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: make this game on Thursday night more interesting. And you know,

454
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: those two teams couldn't be two couldn't be more different animals.

455
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: But um, you know, the health had a hed a

456
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: couple lot to do with it, and we got healthy

457
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Um. But hey, before

458
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: before you cut me off, I just I just want

459
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: to ask you, um, you know, for me, I think

460
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: that what happened last week shows how important linebackers are.

461
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: I think in the modern game, having great inside linebackers

462
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Speaker 1: that can play the running cover, um, you know, are

463
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: just where a defense prospers. And so, you know, just

464
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: kind of wondering. I liked the draft of um Ryan Connolly.

465
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: I thought the kid was really playing well and was

466
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Speaker 1: a big loss of the defense. But yeah, so I

467
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Speaker 1: guess my question is, and I thought that was a

468
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: good draft, but but you know it wasn't he fifth round?

469
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Speaker 1: I mean, what is what is gentleman's history of prioritizing

470
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Speaker 1: the linebackers in the draft? I don't know. I'll let

471
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Speaker 1: I'll give you my opinion. Then Paul can answer when

472
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Speaker 1: you say, what is his Um, he's a trench guy,

473
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: but prioritizing it also, let's go, let's put it this way.

474
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: Going into this season, what was your priority. Your priority

475
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Speaker 1: was drafting a quarterback for the future that you was

476
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Speaker 1: your priority. I don't know what his priority is going

477
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: to be next season, but he got what he wanted

478
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Speaker 1: this season in terms of the priority. He got quarterback,

479
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: and he got dext To Lawrence, and he got a

480
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: guy in the defensive backfield. I don't think it depends

481
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Speaker 1: what's there, who's available and how. If I'm gonna prioritize

482
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Speaker 1: a linebacker, fine, but I gotta look at the linebacker

483
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Speaker 1: and say, well, is this this linebacker, this athlete at linebacker?

484
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: Does he measure up to this guy at this position?

485
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: Whether it was Dexter Lawrence or or somebody else. You

486
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: follow what I'm saying, Uh, Mike, I think it year

487
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: to year in draft. Yeah, and I hear you. But

488
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: I guess where I'm coming from is that, you know,

489
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: I felt for years that Jerry Rees did not prioritize

490
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Speaker 1: the linebacker position. I remember when we passed on Miles

491
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: Jack and I felt like, Hey, what they're saying about

492
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: his knees that you know after five seasons there's a worry.

493
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll take that, so um anyway, you know,

494
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: my my two cents is that, you know, inside linebackers

495
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: that can run make a huge difference these days. And

496
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Speaker 1: I guess I'm just saying since I know Dave Gentleman

497
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: listens to the show, you know, I help you social

498
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: priority on a great, great couple of middle linebackers. Well, Mike,

499
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: I would say this, Uh, Dave Gettleman's priority is to

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Speaker 1: make the Giants better. His priority is to get the

501
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Speaker 1: Giants to the promised land. Okay, And you've heard me

502
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: say this several times with Paul here, also with David here.

503
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Speaker 1: When he got the job to be the general manager

504
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Speaker 1: of the Giants. Dave Gettleman got the job. This was

505
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: not a job for a first time GM. It was

506
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: a it was a job for a veteran guy because

507
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: this organization, this team needed a lot of rebuilding and

508
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: needed tough decisions to be made, and you needed an

509
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: experienced guy who was able to do that and not

510
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: worry what the media was gonna say, or somebody was

511
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: gonna say on Twitter or or whatever on social media.

512
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Speaker 1: So he's gonna do it, you know, and he's certainly

513
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: gonna attempt to do it. And you know, I think

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Speaker 1: his draft, if he asked me, his drafts have been

515
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Speaker 1: pretty damn good. It was certainly good his first draft.

516
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Speaker 1: And I think you know, when you look at it

517
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna look at you bring up Dave Gentleman, Mike,

518
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna look at Paul, I'll say this to

519
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: you too. Uh, combinations of young quarterbacks and young running backs.

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00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: I think Giants were blessed with what they got the

521
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: last two years of a Sequin Barkley and Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: I think when you look down the road a few

523
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: a few years from now, you canna say, yeah, who's

524
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: a better quarterback running back combination than those two. I mean, really,

525
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: it's difficult when you're talking about and analyzing somebody's draft.

526
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: It's very difficult because you have to weigh the needs

527
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: of the team at the time, obviously what's great and

528
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: on the player, who else is on the board at

529
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Speaker 1: that time? What else you have on your roster at

530
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: that time, because you know you're gonna have churn. It's

531
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Speaker 1: a very very difficult question to answer, But I will

532
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: answer this in a black and white case. He's already

533
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Speaker 1: drafted three linebackers in the last two years as the

534
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Speaker 1: Giants GM he drafted Ziminez, he drafted uh connolly, and

535
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Speaker 1: he drafted Lorenzo Carter. In his time with Carolina, he

536
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Speaker 1: drafted A. J. Klein in two thousand thirteen in the

537
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Speaker 1: fifth round. He was a four year starter for the Panthers. Okay,

538
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: in the two thousand and fourteen draft, he did not

539
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Speaker 1: take a linebacker. Um In the two thousand fifteen draft,

540
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: he took Shaq Thompson in the first round. He's in

541
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Speaker 1: his fifth year as a starter, and he took David

542
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Speaker 1: Mayo in the fifth round, who, as you know, did

543
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: not start for them at all, was a special teams

544
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: guy and is now part of the Giants. So in

545
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Speaker 1: three drafts with the Panthers, he actually four drafts with

546
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Speaker 1: the Panthers, because in two thousand sixteen he did not

547
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: take any any linebackers while he was in Carolina uh

548
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: and nor did he in two thousand seventeen either, So

549
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Speaker 1: he's already drafted three backers and two years with the Giants,

550
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: which does indicate he has paid more attention to the position.

551
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: But again, there are so many factors that go to

552
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: who you're taking, and it's not just about oh, we've

553
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: got to get a certain position. I hope that answers

554
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: your question to some degree. It does, and I think that, um,

555
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, another way to grade is also just in

556
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: the depth that your team is provided. And a lot

557
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: of that is you know, I say, you know, rounds

558
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: three and down, and so I give Gettleman high credit

559
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: for that because we're getting we're actually getting a lot

560
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: of contributions from those and I think that that's what

561
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: starved this team of success, you know, in the in

562
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: the past, you know, seven years before he came in.

563
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm I'm I'm optimistic for the future

564
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: and I'm realistic for this season, and I was hoping

565
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: for better this season. But you know, Shepherd's out again,

566
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: his second concussion of the year. We know how important

567
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: he is to the offense, you know, now, I mean

568
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram is down. I mean you have to when

569
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: you have a young team, you have to have a

570
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: combination of guys playing above their experience and health. And

571
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: we're just not you know, I hate to say bad luck,

572
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: but you know we're getting I think that we were

573
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: getting a lot of bad luck and we're not. You know,

574
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: we're getting guys playing above their their experience. In my opinion,

575
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: because you know, I look at Connolly, I look at

576
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: um uh no, man, his name just went out of

577
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: my head. Here's what I want you to do. I

578
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: want you to take a breath when when when the

579
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: team was owing to we got on this show and

580
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I said, you guys, call us back after four games,

581
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: and you'll see the giants are two and two, and

582
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: you can take a deep breath. Well, there're two and

583
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: three right now, very possibly going to be two and four.

584
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: Call me back after eight games. Called rus back after

585
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: eight games, and if the Giants are four and four,

586
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: you can take another deep breath. Just you don't. Don't

587
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: be so gloom and doom right now. There's no reason

588
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: why this team cannot continue to try to progress over

589
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: the course of the schedule and wind up being a

590
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: five hundred team, and then you won't have to feel bad.

591
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: You could feel good about this team if they're eight

592
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: and eight. You know, Mike, you made a lot of

593
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: good points here. But there's a phrase that you're using,

594
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: and I get it. Uh, young players playing above their experience.

595
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: But also the most important thing is for the young

596
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: players to flat out just be gaining the experience. You know,

597
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: the Connolly Connolly was playing great. What was fifth round? Yes?

598
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: Fifth round? I wasn't fourth and fifth, so he was

599
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: fifth round? I mean yes. And you know Slayton also

600
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: like what fifth round? No, Slayton was what six? Slayton

601
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: was a five olso he was a five also? Okay,

602
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: But you understand what I'm saying. A young young guys.

603
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: You just want them to get that experience. Did gain

604
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: that have growing pains? It's all growing pains. And don't

605
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: kid yourself. You know Daniel Jones is gonna have it too.

606
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: You already had one last week. But the one the

607
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: one thing that I didn't like. And thanks for the call, Mike,

608
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: very good call. Appreciate call, callback into anybody. Um, you know,

609
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: I read a couple of things and in fairness to

610
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: the people writing the articles, they don't write the headlines. Okay,

611
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: and you know I'm reading, uh, Daniel Jones wake up

612
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: call or Daniel Jones reality check. Daniel Jones. The vikings

613
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 1: were not a wake up call for Daniel Jones. Daniel

614
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: Jones was not asleep at the wheel. Daniel Jones was

615
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: not taking anything for granted, So it was not a

616
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: wake up call and it was not a reality check.

617
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: He Daniel Jones wasn't going through thinking he was gonna

618
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: go fourteen and oh and they were gonna go into

619
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: the postseason. Afflicting it to Daniel Jones. No, he's playing

620
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And maybe some other people

621
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: had visions of Daniel Jones being the miracle worker, uh,

622
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: but it was not Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones is a

623
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: confident young man with a very very GoF forbid barn

624
00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: injury and extremely bright future and he's as tough as nails.

625
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: But it was no wake up call for Daniel Jones.

626
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: There's no reality check. He knows he's playing in the NFL.

627
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: He know, He knew he was going up against a

628
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: very formidable team in the Minnesota Vikings. He knows what

629
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: he's going up against Thursday, and I just's no wake

630
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: up or reality check. It's the deal that he knows.

631
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: When you take things for granted, that's a wake up call,

632
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: then you need a reality check. He doesn't need a

633
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: reality check. He's a bright young man, you know. So,

634
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: so the net be careful with the narratives that people

635
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: put out there, because some of it is really cock eyed.

636
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: Again two oh one four five one three is the

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Speaker 1: That's nine oh four six four for more details. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you caught that, Paul, but that kind

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Speaker 1: of bugged me when I was looking at it, and

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00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the papers yesterday and again. In fairness

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00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: to people who write the articles and columns, they're not

649
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: writing uh that, they're not writing those headlines, but like,

650
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: what kind of wake up call? What kind of reality check?

651
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: That's not the case, And that's that's kind of saying, oh,

652
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: now you're in the real world. You wake up what

653
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: you know? You thought you're you know what, didn't think?

654
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: That's the farthest thing from the truth and it shouldn't

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00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: be put out that way. Well it's I'm not trying

656
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: to be protective, no, it's just it's just wrong. It's

657
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: a wrong narrative to put out there. You actually want

658
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Speaker 1: to have a discussion with me about headlines and social

659
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: media and newspaper stories and agendas. Do you really want

660
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Speaker 1: to do that? It's gonna take about twelve hours to

661
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: get through that toxin. Seriously, folks, all I know is

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Speaker 1: I want to speak to him Friday morning after they

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00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: came Friday. I know what to expect. I'm a I'm

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Speaker 1: a realist, but also four and four after eight games,

665
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: don't be that's what you're shooting for. Don't be afraid

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00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: to expect the unexpected. Whatever. Let me give you a

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Speaker 1: little something to hold on see, because I know I

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Speaker 1: know by PAULI dotsia well enough why he knows and

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Speaker 1: and as Paul and I have both said it, giants

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Speaker 1: are up against the big time. Giants are up against

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00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: the big time Thursday night. But there's a little morsel

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Speaker 1: inside his chest there saying saying little you know, somebody's

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Speaker 1: whispering is here, you know, Paul, don't go ahead, show

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Speaker 1: some guts, tell Russ well, you know, in my best

675
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: Michael straight hand, believe it and it will happen. Oh man,

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00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: you know where's Michael when you need him? Huh? Doing

677
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: the pyramid game and everything else they don't think he's

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00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: not doing. We had Justin Tuck on on the pregame

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Speaker 1: show the other day. He was visiting to sign autographs

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00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: on Sunday prior to the Vikings contest, and you know,

681
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: we were asking him about the pass rush, and you know,

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00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: he was just saying how great it was to be

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Speaker 1: playing with guys like Stray and O c U man

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Speaker 1: Eura who could make big plays and strike fear into

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Speaker 1: the hearts of quarterbacks and create turnovers. And you know,

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00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: you think about it, and you you remember what those

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Speaker 1: guys did and the dominant impact that they had when

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Speaker 1: they went on the field on Sundays, and then you

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Speaker 1: look at what the Giants are playing with right now

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Speaker 1: and you realize, you know, and it's no disrespect to

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Speaker 1: any of these guys, but Michael Strahan's in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. Justin Tuck is a two time Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: champ and and and all and all Pro O c

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Speaker 1: U Manura, same thing. Pro Bowls, super Bowl championship teams,

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Speaker 1: guys who played at a high level that went to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowls that were not all NFL teams. They

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Speaker 1: deserved the accolades they got the Giants have a bunch

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00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: of younger fellas who can only dream of being that

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Speaker 1: good at some point during their careers. There's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with that, they're just not there. And just remember, as

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Speaker 1: you and I have gone over with our callers several times.

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Speaker 1: During their first Super Bowl together, they gave up that defense,

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00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: gave up eighty points their first two games, and everybody

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Speaker 1: wanted to run them along with their defensive coornatus bags

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Speaker 1: out of town. And then they were down seventeen three

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Speaker 1: at the half in d C to the Redskins and

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Speaker 1: subsequently seventeen so before we were putting Stray and everybody

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Speaker 1: else in the Hall of Fame and you know, applauding

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Speaker 1: them and no, but it doesn't happen automatically. We've both

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Speaker 1: been around a long time. Remember when O C was

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Speaker 1: drafted out of Troy and people were saying, Troy, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's one double a school, how good could he possibly be?

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Speaker 1: And when he first got to the Giants, he was

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Speaker 1: a situational player, got a few snaps and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: until a couple of years in when he became what

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Speaker 1: he was. Michael Stray had broke his foot as a

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Speaker 1: rookie and people were like, Texas, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: What pass rushers come out of Texas Southern? It took

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Speaker 1: him a couple of years to become a staple on

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Speaker 1: the defense. And let's not forget justin talk. Who at

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Speaker 1: liszt frank in his foot? Okay broken? You know, he

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Speaker 1: had that whole thing and was on crutches and needed surgery.

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Speaker 1: It took him three years to become a rotation force

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Speaker 1: on the defensive line. At some point, all these guys

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Speaker 1: were nothing more than prospects. Well you don't have it.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to go back to those drafts. You

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Speaker 1: can go to the most recent drift with a guy

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Speaker 1: by the name of Daniel Jones. What's everybody wanted to commit?

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Speaker 1: Harry carry if you will. They were jumping off bridges.

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Speaker 1: How the hell can they pick this guy? How can

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Speaker 1: they pick this guy? When Dwayne Haskins was out there,

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Speaker 1: where'd that narrative go? Huh? Where'd that narrative go? And

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Speaker 1: the same people who are saying that with the same people,

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Speaker 1: you know, two preseason games, not two games into the season,

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Speaker 1: two preseason games into the season. The same people who

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Speaker 1: were screaming, why the hell did the Giants pick um

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Those were the same people who wanted Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones plan. And now, if you want to go back

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Speaker 1: in history, go to old number eleven out of more

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Speaker 1: head number eleven, who in his senior year they were

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Speaker 1: to six and one. Phil Simms was to six and

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Speaker 1: one through more interceptions than touchdowns. The point is everybody,

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Speaker 1: everybody is a prospect at one point before they become

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Speaker 1: the bona fide NFL guy that they will later on

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Speaker 1: turn into. And sometimes guys don't work out and they

746
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: were bust. Sometimes it's because they got hurt, sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: for other reasons, whatever the case may be. But the

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Speaker 1: point is, very rarely, very rarely do you find a

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Speaker 1: guy like a s Kwon Barkley or a Lawrence Taylor

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Speaker 1: who come in why out of the draft and immediately

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Speaker 1: become a star, impact player that can turn your team around.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are like once in a lifetime. Barkley is

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. LT Was one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: Oldell Beckham Jr. Was one of those guys. You know.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Shocky was one of those guys. You know. The

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Speaker 1: Giants are hoping Daniel Jones over the course of this season,

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Speaker 1: maybe shows them that he can be one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: That's what makes those guys really special is when they

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Speaker 1: can pull that off, which is why I've always said

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks should sit for at least a year because

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Speaker 1: the percentages aren't good. Well, I was just I was

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Speaker 1: just gonna say to you of the guys that you

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Speaker 1: just mentioned, uh lt shocky, they weren't quarterbacks quarterbacks and

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Speaker 1: we were revealing, you know, especially lthy and and uh

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Speaker 1: wellst LTI squan. We're talking about great players, but the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position is that much more difficult for for a

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Speaker 1: rookie for first year play. It just is. And you know,

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, Daniel Jones was checking all the boxes. H

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Speaker 1: One thing that I didn't know about Daniel Jones just

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Speaker 1: how tough he is. I mean, because he has taken

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Speaker 1: some big time lumps. I mean big time lumps, I

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Speaker 1: mean huge. Uh are fine producer here, uh Dave Phil

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Speaker 1: Sims were number twelve for most of his career at

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Speaker 1: Morehead State, and twelve is retired by that school. And

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Speaker 1: that was for a guy who was throwing more more

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Speaker 1: interceptions than uh touchdowns. He had a horrible record in awful,

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Speaker 1: not not good, I mean, I mean awful. But and

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Speaker 1: that's why they were bowing when he was picked seventh overall.

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Speaker 1: But George Young, I thought, yeah, this is the guy.

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Speaker 1: It's not all about the stats. Bill Walsh had his

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Speaker 1: eyes on Phil Simms in the third round. George Young

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Speaker 1: took him at number seven in the first round. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it worked out, okay, worked out. All parties concerned. I

784
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Speaker 1: think it worked out okay, But it just, um, it's

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Speaker 1: not an exact science. It just isn't you know. And listen,

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Speaker 1: all you people remember Blair Thomas at a Penn State

787
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Speaker 1: talk about sa Kwan Barkley and Blair Thomas was picked

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Speaker 1: by the Jets number two overall and people were killing

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Speaker 1: the Jets. It was a bust, you know what kind

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Speaker 1: of pick you know, turned out to be certainly not

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Speaker 1: worthy of a number to pick. And I remember George

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Speaker 1: telling us everybody he had, he pulled out his draw

793
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Speaker 1: and show me everybody in this league had the same

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Speaker 1: thing that Blair Thomas was a can't miss guy, a

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Speaker 1: can't miss guy. All right, Sometimes it just doesn't work out,

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Speaker 1: even by the experts. It just doesn't work out very good.

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Speaker 1: Dave dominic I had the numbers off the top of

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Speaker 1: my head. A senior year, Phil Simms had six touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: eleven in deceptions and through for a grand total of

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Speaker 1: one thousand, two hundred and twenty nine yards. He had

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Speaker 1: no Bowl appearances in four years. His record as his

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Speaker 1: senior year was to six and one. His He finished

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Speaker 1: his career more head with the forty eight point nine

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Speaker 1: completion for centage, thirty two touchdowns, and forty five interceptions. Okay,

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Speaker 1: m hm, now listen, think about what would happen if

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Speaker 1: social media was around then and you were able to

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Speaker 1: get ahold of those numbers. I mean, it would have

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Speaker 1: blown up. It would have blown up. But as Parcels

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Speaker 1: used to tell us, you know, when he's done that

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Speaker 1: old number eleven, you're all gonna be said at all

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Speaker 1: number level is pretty good. We got some tweets for us,

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Speaker 1: we could we could get to while we have the

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Speaker 1: phone lines open, by the way, folks, yes, two oh

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Speaker 1: one four five one three, if you want to give

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Speaker 1: us a goal. We got about ten eleven minutes left

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Speaker 1: in the show. That's two o one five one three ahead.

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Speaker 1: Coach Surge has a very interesting comment. He says, the

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Speaker 1: three or four doesn't work against the run. It's horrible,

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Speaker 1: and we don't have the linebackers to go with it. Well,

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Speaker 1: you remember the Giants used to be a four three

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Speaker 1: until eighty one when they drafted Lawrence Taylor, and Parcels

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Speaker 1: converted them to a three four because he knew he

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Speaker 1: had the linebackers to do it and that was going

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Speaker 1: to be the strength of the defense, and so that's

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Speaker 1: why you played that scheme. Conversely, remember when the Giants

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Speaker 1: had Michael straight Hand here, they were four three again

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Speaker 1: because they had more defensive lineman who could ruin an offense.

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Speaker 1: Right now, the Giants are very thin at linebacker. That's

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Speaker 1: just the bottom line. And if you listen to the

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Speaker 1: show at all. Last week, I had suggested going into

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota game that you would play with a five

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Speaker 1: man front, four down linemen and the stand up linebacker,

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Speaker 1: and Marcus Golden go with the five man front. Then

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Speaker 1: you take the other tight end, and in that case,

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Speaker 1: I thought it might have been Lorenzo Carter. We thought

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Speaker 1: there was a chance he played and then stick him

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Speaker 1: over the tight end, which meant if the other team

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00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: kept the tight end in, you would actually have a

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Speaker 1: six man front, and that way you could stuff the run,

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Speaker 1: which is what Belichick did in the playoff game against

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Speaker 1: the Bears and forced the team to throw the ball.

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00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: At least you knew that you could take one element

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Speaker 1: of the game away. Of course, the bottom line is

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Speaker 1: if you do that against Tom Brady, he will probably

845
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: carve you to ribbons. So so, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: necessarily over scheming against the run right now is going

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Speaker 1: to do much for you, because the run is actually

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Speaker 1: the weaker of the offensive weapons read that the Patriots

849
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Speaker 1: have to offer. Speaking of the stand up linebacker, you

850
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: know who's I wasn't sure you know in preseason, but

851
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: he's looked pretty good lately. As Marcus Gold, no question,

852
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: he's looked pretty darn good. Kevin la Fosso says I

853
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't play them in this game. Talking about any of

854
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: the nicked up guys, he says, this game is a loss.

855
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: Don't risk further injuries. I don't think that the Giants

856
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: or the players feel that way. I think they believe

857
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: if they're healthy enough and they're cleared that you play

858
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: at your profession, at your job, you have responsibility to

859
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: your teammates to do that if they don't believe that

860
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: they really are are able to go out there and

861
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: provide enough to try to help the team, then they

862
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: won't be in the lineup. It's really pretty simple. But

863
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: but also sometimes, um, it's not unlike a fighter. It's

864
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: not unlike a fighter. And I learned that from my

865
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: good friend Teddy Atlas. It's not unlike a fighter. Sometimes

866
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: the fighter needs the train it to say, uh, yeah,

867
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: you might even be winning the fight, but I can't

868
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: let you go out against Eddie Eddie Footch. That's exactly right,

869
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: because that that fight was still up in the air.

870
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: But my point being, because you're an athlete, and you know,

871
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: I think what the question was asked today, uh to

872
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer about se Quan, Well, if s Quan says

873
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 1: he feels he's ready, you know paraphrase and out kind

874
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: of a slippery slope, you know, if the the training

875
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: is there for of doctors, into which Pat Shermer said, well,

876
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: we've got a great training staff and great doctors. But

877
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: the point being a guy like say Quon, I mean

878
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: he's a bulldog, you know, Uh, no offense to the

879
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: Ninny Lions, but he's got a bulldog personality. He's ready,

880
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: he's ready to go out there, but sometimes you need

881
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: somebody to say, yeah, you are, but not just yet.

882
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: We gotta protect you. Sometimes sometimes a professional athlete has

883
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: to be protected from his or herself. That's the way

884
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: it is, you know, and sometimes that's the hardest thing

885
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 1: to do in A guy doesn't want to accept that,

886
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: but that's reality, you know, Just just like when it

887
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: we're in a postseason baseball now, sometimes a picture doesn't

888
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: want to come out of a game. Sometimes you gotta

889
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: come out of the game. That's just it. You can

890
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: have that bulldog mentality, but you know, sometimes it's not

891
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: your decision. Uh. Dylan Davis says, do you think that yeah,

892
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: he's he gotta got back to us on Twitter? Do

893
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: you think the Giants bringing a running back or bring

894
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,439
Speaker 1: back a wide receiver like Benny Fowler this week? Since

895
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: Shep is out in Goldman is most likely out as well. Well, look,

896
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: those guys are in concussion protocol. I'm pretty yeah, they haven't.

897
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: They haven't announced the injury report because they don't have

898
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: to do it until tomorrow. But don't count on them

899
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: playing because they're not. Okay, concussion protocol. That's something that's

900
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: gonna linger for for a while with these guys, so

901
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: please don't count on them playing. Um, here's the thing,

902
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 1: because it's a short week. Um, the Giants are gonna

903
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: go with what they've got into Foxborough, which means Walter,

904
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: the young undrafted rookie running back out of Rice, may

905
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 1: possibly be called up to work with Hillaman and Penny

906
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: in the backfield. But they're not bringing in any running

907
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 1: backs from the outside for this game. And I think

908
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: the simple reason for that maybe if it was a

909
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 1: Sunday game, but it's not. And I just think the

910
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: week was too short to bring somebody in to get

911
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: them ready. So why are we doing it now? And

912
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: again uh, Patremmer addressed that as well, Well, yeah, you've

913
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: got somebody on the practice quad. But at least somebody

914
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: on the practice squads are here, they've been working with us,

915
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: they know what we want to do. It's easier now, Fowler,

916
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 1: who was just converation something by the Giant or here's

917
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: the problem. J Yeah, Well here's the problem. If you

918
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: do that now, you've got to take somebody off the

919
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: fifty three too. And you know, honestly exactly, you know,

920
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: what are you who are you gonna You're gonna I

921
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: R somebody and losing for for all. You can always

922
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: bring them back, I know, with the with the recall system,

923
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: But do you really want to do that right now

924
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: not knowing what you got? And so no, I don't.

925
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: You won't see any roster changes unless maybe Walter's brought

926
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: up from the practice squad at running back. I think

927
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: that's the only one you might see for this week.

928
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: Something could happen on Friday in anticipation of what happens

929
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: when they play the Cardinals ten days later. Well, let

930
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: me you could see a move there. Well, let me

931
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: ask a question. I don't know technically what all the

932
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: rules are when you bring a guy up from the

933
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: tactic uh, the practice squad. When you bring him up

934
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: from the practice squad, what you lose someone off your

935
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: fifty three? Either cut or I are see. I have

936
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: a complaint. This is a sore spot for me. I

937
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: don't like it either. I say, if a guy's in

938
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: concussion protocol, which is regulated by the league, the National

939
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: Football League should go by what Major League Baseball does,

940
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: you can put the guy on the concussion list and

941
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: thereby bring up a replacement from your practice squad without

942
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: having to make a roster movie. That's how I believe

943
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: it should go. Major League Baseball implemented that last year.

944
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: Put the guy in the concussion list to a special

945
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: list and he doesn't count against your active roster, and

946
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: then you can make the move. And then when the

947
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: guy comes back from concussion protocol, when the lead he

948
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: clears him, now you have to decide what you're gonna

949
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: do with your roster. Yeah, I I agree with that,

950
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: and not for all injuries, but the concussion protocol, it's

951
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: it's independent, it's independent, it's an important list. And I

952
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: think that I always wonder about that way to mean

953
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: the guy is on a practice squad, he really is

954
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: part of your team. He's working out with you every day.

955
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: So now we're gonna bring him up, and now I

956
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: gotta cut somebody something doesn't it's not right. It's a bad,

957
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 1: bad rule that that they need to fix it and

958
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: implement a new rule that will clean that up and

959
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: also then allow you to put that guy back to

960
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: the practice squad without having to expose him to any

961
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: waivers or or if you bring in a guy up

962
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: from the practice squad to you know, because somebody has

963
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: heard of something. You bring the guy up, so you

964
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: bring him up, and you know there could also be

965
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: another type of rule. It's okay, well he's up and

966
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: he's sticking. Well, if he's gonna stick for two or

967
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: three weeks, well, too much chicanery can go on with

968
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: other injuries. The concussion protocol is independent, it's league regulated,

969
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: so there's no stickiness. There's no chicanery going on with

970
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: the fifty three guys a concussion protocol. The league says

971
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: he can't play. Well, if the league is telling me

972
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: he can't play, why should I be penalized for that? No,

973
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. And I've I've been screaming about

974
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: this for years and nobody at Park Avenue wants to

975
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: listen to me. All right, real quick? More tweets Robert

976
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: de Mayo says, um, he doesn't. I guess a coach

977
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: Hermer doesn't realize they only played that well defensively because

978
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: it was the Washington Redskins. Coach Sherman announcing in his

979
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: pressure today the defense has to play more like they

980
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: did against Washington when they only gave up three big plays,

981
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: as opposed to when they played the Redskins and there's

982
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: no there's no question. You understand that the competition was

983
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: much more difficult last week. But by the same token,

984
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: the Giants were not nearly as clean in their play.

985
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 1: They were sloppy last week. Russ how many missed tackles.

986
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: It was terrible. But but again that goes into like

987
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: what our friend Mike from out in California brought up.

988
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: They were playing with out their linebackers, or they had

989
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: linebackers in there, but it wasn't their front line linebackers.

990
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't one, it wasn't two, it was three. What

991
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: else you got there before we have? Uh? I guess

992
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: it's Serve alto eight nine. I can't really pronounce his

993
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,240
Speaker 1: name right, but he says uh. Talking about the injury report,

994
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: he says they haven't been reported out yet. Not sure

995
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: why they'd be automatically out, especially especially since the Giants

996
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: haven't made roster moves. I guess he's talking about Goldman

997
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,479
Speaker 1: and Ingram. That would be my guest. Let me see.

998
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: It's a response to something that I put on Twitter. Okay,

999
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 1: Shermer said, reports of Ingram and Barkley not expected to

1000
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: play verse pats quote. You didn't hear that from me,

1001
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: and so he's responding to that quote from Shermer. Here's

1002
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: the thing. The Giants don't have to put out they're

1003
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: they're inactive out guys until tomorrow. So there's no reason

1004
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: for quach Shermer, for competitive reasons or otherwise to say

1005
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: a guy is out today or yesterday or the day

1006
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: before until he's required to put out that list by

1007
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: the league. So when he says to you, I'm not

1008
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: saying he's out, he's being honest and truthful. He's not

1009
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: out today doesn't mean he won't be out tomorrow. But

1010
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: I will be out tomorrow. But I'm I'm actually actually

1011
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: gonna be healthy, yes, but I'll be a healthy cut tomorrow.

1012
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm not here tomorrow because of a holiday, but I

1013
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: will be back with you on Thursday along with David

1014
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Speaker 1: Deal for another edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live Here,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by a Corpse Light on Giants dot Com.

1016
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: But until then, for Dave Dominic, for Paul Datino, I

1017
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: am Russ Salisburg. Thanks for being in air, because without

1018
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: you people out there, we'd have nobody here to be talkative.

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Speaker 1: So until next time, have a good one.