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Speaker 1: They Around the NFL Podcast. He's on a high way

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Speaker 1: to Peal. Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL

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Speaker 1: the Podcast. I'm Dan hanss I'm here in a pertial

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Speaker 1: room filled with a couple of heroes, Greg Rosenthal from Englewood,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler from Hollywood, and we are here to talk

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Speaker 1: about another Double Monday Night and get you caught up

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Speaker 1: on the news. Mark, let's start with the good news

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Speaker 1: separate from the news, which is we are done with

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Speaker 1: the Double Monday Night, the double Chamber, the double Shotgun.

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Speaker 1: It's ova Johnny, and I for one, am very happy

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Speaker 1: about it as well, because I was having a similar

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Speaker 1: vibe to you, is like I'm done with this. I

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Speaker 1: hate this two screen experience. And now we're done for

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Speaker 1: a bit.

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Speaker 2: We are in like you know, I think if you've

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Speaker 2: been listening to previous episodes, I was confronted about my

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Speaker 2: behavior a week ago.

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Speaker 3: And my text behavior with the two of you.

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Speaker 2: I hope that tonight was an example that I can

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Speaker 2: learn from those kinds of conversations. I don't believe I

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Speaker 2: reached out to you all the rounds were playing.

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Speaker 4: You did have some complaints about the announcers, but that

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Speaker 4: was minor, and we are getting a doubleheader I believe

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Speaker 4: week fourteen. So Mark, we've had a discussion and you're

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Speaker 4: actually covering both of those games solo. Weird.

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Speaker 3: Let's see if I'm still here in week fourteen.

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Speaker 1: That's your penalty for your kaiser so routine. In week three,

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Speaker 1: double Monday Night bang sash. Yes, So we had an

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Speaker 1: important game for the Cincinnati Bengals, who staring down the

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Speaker 1: barrel themselves of oh to three and the prospect of

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow not even playing this game. But Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: did play on Monday Night Football against the Rams head

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Speaker 1: to pay Corps.

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Speaker 5: Aaron Donald took a few plays off, he is now

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Speaker 5: back in the game.

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Speaker 6: On second and six, Mixon Nixon cut.

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Speaker 5: Joe Mixon Tonight's first touchdown and the Bengals go on

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Speaker 5: top pass setting up the run man Mixon from fourteen

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Speaker 5: yards out put Cincinnati on top.

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Speaker 1: No one said it was going to be easy for

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, who have an obviously compromised quarterback with

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow nursing that calf injury that will not go away.

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Speaker 1: But Burrow did make it through four quarters of this game.

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Speaker 1: He said afterwards that he got out of it unscathed

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Speaker 1: without any setbacks. Who knows if that's the truth, but

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Speaker 1: what we do know is that he played four quarters,

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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon scored that go ahead touchdown, and the defense

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Speaker 1: their studley kicker in a nineteen sixteen win over the

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Speaker 1: La Rams, a game Mark Sessler that wasn't high on

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Speaker 1: action as really both offenses struggled mightily through this night,

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Speaker 1: but it was the Bengals that just made more plays

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Speaker 1: in the second half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've been waiting for two plus weeks

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Speaker 2: to kind of see this offense look like it has

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Speaker 2: for the past two seasons, And when they were down

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Speaker 2: like they finally you kind of saw Jamar Chase, who

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Speaker 2: they moved around a lot, get active, T Higgins, Joe

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Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, I know, the whole story is

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and like I thought his throws were really

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Speaker 2: affected tonight in general, Like he can say he's not

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Speaker 2: affected by this calf injury. It's like I think we

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Speaker 2: all saw a quarterback we've seen him before minus a

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Speaker 1: He said, he was not affected. Just for the record,

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Speaker 2: Game with like it work sure, but like there's no

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Speaker 2: doubt that it limited kind of who he is and

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Speaker 3: But they found their way out of it.

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Speaker 2: But I mean the Bengals, it's like it was kind

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Speaker 2: It's like these guys just stepped up and shut down

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Speaker 3: It's like it took the whole team to get out

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Speaker 2: And it's like I think the offense can grow, but

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Speaker 1: Can it?

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Speaker 3: Which is it gonna get better? Hopefully? Can it get worse?

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Speaker 2: It can get worse because it's like it's calf injury.

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Speaker 2: There was one moment tonight where I thought he got

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Speaker 2: No matter what he says like it just looked uncomfortable,

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Speaker 2: but they got they escaped it with a win. I

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Speaker 2: guess you don't ask too many questions after that.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm asking questions because what they did tonight is unsustainable.

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Speaker 4: There's also, like two things can be true. That was

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Speaker 4: not a Joe Burrow that can win enough games for

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Speaker 4: them to matter this year. Tonight their offense was too limited.

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Speaker 4: They couldn't have him under center, which limits the running

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Speaker 4: game too. I think Joe Mixon look good, but like

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Speaker 4: he's out a shotgun all games, so it just messes

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Speaker 4: with the running game. He clearly can't move outside the

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Speaker 4: to win. I think that's true, and he has to

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Speaker 4: be better else they're not going to go anywhere. But

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Speaker 4: it was also a championship level performance as a team.

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Speaker 4: The best players on the team were all on defense.

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Speaker 4: I think DJ Reider made one of the biggest plays

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Speaker 4: the beginning of the game. After they overturned a two

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Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson, you mentioned just beating on the Rams backup

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Speaker 4: left tackle. In the second half, Dax Hill made huge

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Speaker 4: just kept holding the four, holding the fur and the

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Speaker 4: Rams should have been ahead by much more at halftime

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Speaker 4: and they weren't. And they held it just enough for

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Speaker 4: in Burrow, just to do just enough. I didn't come

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Speaker 4: out of the game though, feeling like they solved anything

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Speaker 4: to the Rams. It's not like they solve things. They

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Speaker 4: just problem solved for this week. And if you're a

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Speaker 1: And you know that's why I locked up the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Good job, even though he split it out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: The reason I did lock them out is I lock

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Speaker 1: them up. I just did not foresee a scenario. And

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Speaker 1: I know the coaching statsman catching heat on this podcast

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Speaker 1: that this team, this battle tested team, was not going

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly how the game played out where Burrow

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Speaker 1: the real risk on the lockside was that he was

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Speaker 1: then I'm banged in a big spot. But once he

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Speaker 1: And now, while it's not an exciting game plan to watch,

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Speaker 1: in quite frankly, it's kind of sad to watch this

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Speaker 1: like the great ones, where when it's time to go

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Speaker 1: make a play, when it's time to go get that

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Speaker 1: the big pass on a nice little play call that

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Speaker 1: took it home, led by like I said, Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 1: like I said Evan McPherson, who had a monster game

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Speaker 1: bombs throughout the night. And they did it as a team,

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Speaker 1: and I think it really poortends well for them. Not

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Speaker 1: I agree with you that this version of the Bengals

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Speaker 1: getting these wins. It will be huge for them. If

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Speaker 2: It's hard to imagine them suddenly taking a leap between

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Speaker 2: now and next week. So I'm with you, Greg in

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Speaker 2: the sense that, like, I don't know how you eke

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Speaker 1: They just get it. Huh. They just did it like

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Speaker 1: this is how they have to do it.

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Speaker 2: You played the Rams like I'm not sure you're gonna

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Speaker 2: beat other teams.

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Speaker 1: Necessarily counter that mark. Here we go up next at

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Speaker 4: Here's where I would push back just lately, because I'm

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Speaker 4: with you. The offense has to improve, But can can

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Speaker 4: they just muddle through and the defense carries them for

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Speaker 4: a few weeks and win enough of these games? I

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Speaker 4: think it's it's possible because yes, it's just the Rams.

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Speaker 4: And I think something showed up today that we expected

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Speaker 4: more physical than the forty nine ers. Literally last week.

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Speaker 4: They put up almost four hundred yard against the forty

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks, So this was a championship level defensive performance.

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Speaker 3: But that was what Greg three minutester just said.

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Speaker 2: It's not sustainable right for the What are you saying,

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Speaker 2: because I'm sort of saying, like, this version of the

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Speaker 2: And I think, no, he could heal by then and

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Speaker 2: be better, but he could also reaggravate this. It's like

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Speaker 2: the I don't think he really had a real rollout

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Speaker 2: until like deep third quarter. Like we're not seeing a

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Speaker 2: throws because of his lower body situation. It's like, that's

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Speaker 2: not teams are. Teams are gonna find a way to

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Speaker 2: Rams did tonight, and they came close to extinguishing the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: This was a tight one, right.

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Speaker 4: I agree with that because the Rams defense as hard

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Speaker 4: six points in the first half, they forced four punts.

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Speaker 4: They're one of the most undermanned, under talented defenses in

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Speaker 4: the league. Aaron Donald kind of had a back to

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Speaker 4: watch for them. And I do think McVeigh tell me

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Speaker 4: I know I'm game management guy, but it's like I've

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Speaker 1: Like you know what, you don't think that, you don't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he punted on fourth and five with six and

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Speaker 4: those timeouts where he didn't want to take the delay game,

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Speaker 4: They're not explosive enough to make up for stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: It's not in a world annoys me like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not in the world of Josh McDaniels kicking

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Speaker 2: got to have enough confidence that you're gonna get the

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Speaker 3: And it's like that was an odd call.

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Speaker 2: I'm not as down on McVeigh as you are Greg

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Speaker 4: Other ways he is in a lot of way, then

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Speaker 4: they're playing hard. I don't think he's doing a bad

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Speaker 1: Anything else on those game boys.

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Speaker 2: I just think that the Bengals were lucky to even

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Speaker 2: But it's like fourteen more games he's getting a job.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was kind of a signature Jamar Chase

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a big time game. It's the old

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say that you need to Chase.

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Speaker 1: You needed again with Burrow. Can't carry the team right now,

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Speaker 1: I think he had two catches on seven targets today.

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Speaker 1: Had a terrible drop too. I mean, hey, but it's

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Speaker 1: your free agent year, so let's let's let's pick it

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Speaker 4: In the Endngrat's to Nick Wesseling in the crowd. He

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Speaker 4: was given scouting reports that Joe Mixon looks good. I agree,

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Speaker 4: saying that that Higgins especially was getting open deep. See

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Speaker 4: we couldn't see that, but that Burrow was just kind

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Speaker 4: just getting rid of the watcher quickly. So good scouting

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Speaker 1: Good job by you, Nick Westling after your fifty point

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Speaker 1: lock with the Dolphins. Everything is coming up Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Monday night football game played. Where was that game played?

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Speaker 4: It's it's a forgettable you would remember if it was

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was the Eagles win in Tampa. Let's talk

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Speaker 6: Fourth down a goal and they try and will likely

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Speaker 6: try again. Pinch me, Yeah, I'd be shocked if they

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Speaker 6: don't come back and run the run the exact same player. However,

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Speaker 1: In, no signal he's in. Well, pinch me, I mean enough,

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Speaker 1: and it's like the tush push or whatever. It's like,

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Speaker 1: Oh well, if you don't like it, well then maybe

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Speaker 4: Shut up enough well, they's not complain about it.

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Speaker 1: No, it's like, hey man, listen, you don't like to play, Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe everyone would do it then if it was something

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Speaker 1: so easy. Everyone is so hoity toity about this, but

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Speaker 4: About it, just just because I.

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Speaker 1: Don't like it. I don't think it's fun. There's a

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Speaker 4: Okay, but they I totally agree with your aesthetic objections

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Speaker 1: Football quietly, despite maybe the thirty thousand foot view that

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Speaker 4: So by coming up with this, no one else can

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Speaker 2: Go watch Week one like Stike and tried it with

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, totally stuffed. It's not an automatic play like

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Speaker 1: So different that he gets so low enough.

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Speaker 2: But like, why is why why are you suddenly become

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Speaker 1: Nobody can get that low? Oh fascinating whatever. All right,

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Speaker 1: So the Eagles take care of business.

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Speaker 2: To patent Anti intellectually, just like he gets on these

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Speaker 4: I don't know this spron's saying that they get so

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Speaker 1: Why are you upset about this? Mark?

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Speaker 3: I'm not upset.

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Speaker 1: I just think, why can't I have an opinion that

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Speaker 2: You have many that different from mine, and I have

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Speaker 2: literally no control over anything that happens anywhere on this show,

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Speaker 2: So like you are allowed to have as many opinions

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Speaker 1: Is that okay with you? Can I go on? Sure?

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Speaker 1: All right? Thank you? Mark? Here we go, let's get

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Speaker 1: pretty in a walk final score twenty five eleven over

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts does do the tush push and the Eagles

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Speaker 1: with again DeAndre Swift, which is another big find mark.

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Speaker 1: They run all over the Bucks who can't get anything

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Speaker 2: I like, yeah, I know the Eagles a week ago

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Speaker 2: sixty yards over the past two weeks. They out yardaged

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Speaker 2: and seventy four. They had twenty seven first downs. They

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Speaker 2: Bucks team that I find, you know, solid but largely

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00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: fraudulent on offense at least, and this Eagles team, I

437
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 2: think it's like we're just starting to see like if

438
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 2: this was like kind of a growth game for the Bengals.

439
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 2: Like the Eagles to me, on the ground, they have

440
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,360
Speaker 2: a way to go, but like their ability to dominate,

441
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 2: control the clock, and just take the other team's offense

442
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: out of the game and tire the opposing defense. Two

443
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,239
Speaker 2: weeks in a row, they just had their way at

444
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: the end of the games. And so I love what

445
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 2: they're doing right now, and like, this is my kind

446
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 2: of team to watch. They've dominated on both sides of

447
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 2: the ball.

448
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: On the line, I mean.

449
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 4: The Bucks ended up with one hundred and seventy two yards.

450
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Speaker 4: This was the classic and Dan you called it classic

451
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 4: example of a two and oh team that really wasn't

452
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 4: two and oh, like just smacking their face against the

453
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Speaker 4: wall and just proving that they didn't belong with a

454
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 4: team like the Eagles. And I was surprised because I

455
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 4: think coming into this game the Eagles had struggled. But

456
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 4: from the fifty foot view, as they like to say,

457
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 4: it's like, man, the Eagles are winning these games by

458
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 4: two scores and it doesn't feel like Jalen Hurts is

459
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 4: playing that well yet, and like that they have some

460
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 4: things that they can work on that they're that good.

461
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,479
Speaker 4: And I don't think these September games matter that much

462
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: in the scheme of things. You know, going into this week,

463
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 4: it's like, oh, the Cowboys, they're looking great, like they're

464
00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: now the Super Bowl favorites, and not the Eagles. Like

465
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 4: none of this September football is gonna matter in January

466
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 4: except for the standings. But the fact that the Eagles

467
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 4: can work out issues and just like win by two

468
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 4: scores comfortably when it doesn't feel like they're even playing

469
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: their best and they practically trip all the bucks in

470
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 4: total yards. I do think that's a little scary for

471
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Speaker 4: the rest of the of the NFC when you're looking

472
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Speaker 4: at all these players on the roster.

473
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Speaker 1: I think it's one of the more overblown subplots of

474
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: the first two weeks is what's wrong with the Eagles

475
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Speaker 1: on offense because while yes, Jalen Hurts hasn't been as

476
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: locked in, they are running the ball maybe better than ever,

477
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 1: and you know, and they are doing enough in the

478
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: passing game right now. It's not like they're doing nothing

479
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: in the passing game. They're just not locked in. And

480
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 1: you're right, like they if Hurts does lock in, and

481
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Speaker 1: I think it's more likely he does that he doesn't

482
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,959
Speaker 1: and he starts, you know, getting more and more active

483
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: with his legs as well. This is team is going

484
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: to be look just every bit as scary as they

485
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: were last year, and they will rival the Dolphins when

486
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Speaker 1: you talk about offenses that you don't want to see

487
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: on the field. So yeah, despite all the hand ringing,

488
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: they're three to oh and this game against ostensibly, you know,

489
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: we're not essensibly, they're just another undefeated team quote unquote,

490
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: it wasn't even close. So if you're an Eagles fan,

491
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: you're feeling pretty hot right now.

492
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Speaker 4: It's crazy how good their lines are. I mean, that's

493
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 4: it's been the whole magic magic potion for this organization

494
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 4: rebuilding itself after Cards and Wentz. How they built it

495
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 4: up with Carson Wentz and Nick Foles was just like,

496
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 4: we're going to spend all our money and all our

497
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 4: resources possible on the offensive line and the defensive line,

498
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,239
Speaker 4: and then everything else will just look better because of that,

499
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 4: and we can figure things out because of that. And

500
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 4: they mashed them. DeAndre Swift looks like a different player

501
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: right now, sixteen for one thirty. And it's not just

502
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 4: the offensive line, because Gainwell wasn't really getting it done. Tonight.

503
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 4: He looks he looks like he's on he's in Mario

504
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 4: Kart and he hits the oil slick or something. He

505
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 4: just he goes forward. It's just like, Wow, I love me.

506
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Speaker 1: He loves Swift right now. I thought you're talking about

507
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: gain Gainwell lost that job and Swift I don't know,

508
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: like Mark the Lions had, there were moments in his

509
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: Lion's career where it looked like it was just about

510
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: to click. I'm I'm not surprised. I'm obviously he's played

511
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 1: like the best running back in the league the last

512
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: two weeks, but you kind of felt this was always

513
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: in him and now he's in a perfect spot. I

514
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: would you know, you get to the point now where

515
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: you going to be surprised if this guy is near

516
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: the top of the league and rushing at the end

517
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: of the season, like he is set up beautifully here, he's.

518
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: In a better environment.

519
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: Although the Lions have a good line too, but I

520
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 2: think he's healthy, Like I think the DeAndre Swift was

521
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: battling a lot of injuries stuff in other seasons too,

522
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: and I thought that the Lions like backfield reinvention this

523
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: offseason was a little mysterious. To me, they kind of

524
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: had it going on last year with Williams and Swift.

525
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, they he looks great in Philadelphia, and it's like,

526
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Speaker 2: I'm with you, Dan that they like we took one

527
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,959
Speaker 2: week's worth of Eagles offense and kind of like it

528
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: became a talking point. But I do think that you're

529
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: not getting I think we came into the season thinking

530
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: like Jalen Hurts is an MVP, an MVP candidate, and

531
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: it's like he's been a tick below or at the

532
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: offense on that the passing game has been a tick below.

533
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 2: We haven't seen quite like the performances on the ground

534
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: from him. All of that can come. I mean, when

535
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: you're dominating teams this way, it's like you're gonna win

536
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: eleven or twelve of your first thirteen or fourteen games

537
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: and be like what we just saw from the Cowboys.

538
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: It's like, find a better team in the NFC right

539
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: now for me than the Eagles. If this is the

540
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: sort of their B minus B performance.

541
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Speaker 4: World forty nine ers, nice little lock there by.

542
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: Sure, forty nine ers.

543
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I locked up the Eagles. Uh, you know, it's

544
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 2: not wasn't the most heroic thing on the planet. Well

545
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: exactly I was. I was staring down.

546
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about a.

547
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: Wounded Just imagine if if is locked in and come through.

548
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at you.

549
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 4: I am not. I'm trying to be uh impartial here.

550
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: I don't think it was bad at you. I think

551
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: he's just you know it.

552
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: At hold me an anti intellectual given because I don't like.

553
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 2: The I just asked why he's always from Central Bronx

554
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: or like one of the Burroughs.

555
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: Like I think maybe because you said you like this

556
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: Eagles team so much, maybe you took it a little personally.

557
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: I didn't mean. I didn't mean to upset you, though,

558
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 1: and I apologize. I'm I think we've just I'm just

559
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: trying to have fun out here. It's a Monday night

560
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: where the games weren't too juicy. I don't really care

561
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,239
Speaker 1: about the butt it is.

562
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 4: It is ironic though. It's like this intellectual team and

563
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: they've got uh, you know, their whole analytics department run

564
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 4: by you know, Ivy League graduate Alec Halliby and whatnot.

565
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: But like, what did it come down to? They're the

566
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: big They're the big, rugged men who are just running

567
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 4: the ball one yard and they get all the expensive

568
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 4: three hundred pounds a linemen on both sides of the ball.

569
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Speaker 4: That that's what the intellectuals say is to get.

570
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: Well, I don't like intellectuals, you know, I don't. I don't.

571
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: I prefer to shut them out, I mean aspicious of them.

572
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 4: It's another week with Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. Do

573
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 4: you guys give me something on the bucks here? I

574
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 4: mean Baker. I wouldn't say it with transition Baker, but

575
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: it was not a it was a big I.

576
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Speaker 1: Thought it was Actually, this was not the outcome that

577
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Speaker 1: I was expecting. I thought either we were going to

578
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: get one of two things, which was either the epic

579
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: Baker flame out game where he has like five turnovers

580
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: and he just can't stop just throwing it up for grabs,

581
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: and we didn't quite get that, And we didn't get

582
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: the other one, which would have made this game a

583
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: little more juicy, which is him playing with a lot

584
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: of bravado and completing a bunch of passes. Although it

585
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: started out a little bit more exciting than it ended.

586
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: So I think this is probably pretty dangerous.

587
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: I feel like this is probably more not really more

588
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: in line with the Baker that will get weak to

589
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: week and that's not gonna be good enough for this team.

590
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: I hated the like the Rashad White safety in the

591
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: end zone. Terrible play call.

592
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: What are we doing?

593
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Like in general, like there's been pretty good play calling

594
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: for the Bucks with a first time a guy doing

595
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: it for the first time in canals. But like, I

596
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: don't know if Baker's floor is like I'm gonna go

597
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 2: throw five picks, but it is what it was Tonight

598
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: they their lowest first half yardage since you know, twenty twenty,

599
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 2: and like they looked like it, and they looked punchless.

600
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 2: And it's like this has always looked I always love

601
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 2: this sort of like a seven win team. And I

602
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: think that the two wino start was a bit fraudulent.

603
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 4: That would that would that would get there over And

604
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: they asked, you know, Bowls about the running game afterwards,

605
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 4: and he basically just said it didn't show up like

606
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 4: what running game. So, uh, they've struggled to run the ball.

607
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 4: They're not a complete team. Mike Evans look good again,

608
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 4: but this this defensive front with Carter and and Davis

609
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: and Fletcher Cox is playing better. You know, he hasn't

610
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 4: really been Fletcher Cox the last couple of years, but

611
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 4: he started out this season, uh, playing quite well. So

612
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 4: you just like, you gotta you gotta watch them and see,

613
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: you know, like these veterans, you just assume they're the

614
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: same year after year, but he seems to be reversing

615
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: the aging process at least at least early in September.

616
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: And if I'm like, if I'm in the NFC, mm hmm,

617
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta be smarter about, you know, keeping

618
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: our tabs on the Eagles here. You know, we talked

619
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: about like Seattle passing on Jalen Carter in the draft

620
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: and then he falls to the Eagles, and then you

621
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: have DeAndre Swift, like you gotta kind of make sure

622
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't end up back in his hometown making one

623
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: and a half million dollars in salary, like potentially leading

624
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: the league in all purpose yards or something crazy like that.

625
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: This you have to. I feel like they're so run

626
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: so well that just kind of keep better tabs on

627
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles because they're going to keep boat racing the

628
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: conference if they are able to add these guys to

629
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: an already loaded roster. I agree.

630
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 4: I definitely think if Hurt starts playing better, Like he

631
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: made a bad decision in the red zone early on

632
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 4: a fourth down that ended up a turnover. On downs,

633
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,479
Speaker 4: he probably should have kept the ball and he handed

634
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 4: it off. And then he had two interceptions, one where

635
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 4: he's just hanging in the pocket forever forever and enforced it.

636
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: And he made a nice throw in a similar situation

637
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: to Tzakiyas earlier. But a couple of interceptions in this game,

638
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: like a couple wonky decisions. Like his PFF grade for

639
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: what it's worth, I bet will not be great tomorrow.

640
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: It's gonna be. He's been middle of the pack for

641
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 4: three straight weeks and yet they're off.

642
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: Is still awesome. Although you know Aj Brown sticking it

643
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: to your fantasy team and an otherwise good day. Clanks

644
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: went off his hands in the end zone, Greggy, that

645
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: would have made the stat line look nicer. He would

646
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: have three total touchdowns and and whatnot. But yeah, come on, Aj,

647
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: make that catch.

648
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: I mean he had he had a nice night in

649
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: the end nine for one see and that one I

650
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: want hurts to just a little more touch. You know

651
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: there was a defender there, but a little more touch,

652
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 4: don't make them jump if if that's the one I'm

653
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 4: thinking of, and.

654
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: Then the other play, the other play that that just

655
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: seems like they're toying with their opponents. The other play

656
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: where it looked like they're gonna just to bring a

657
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: full circle here. They're like, Oh, we're gonna do the

658
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: touch push again. Isn't this cute? And then they all

659
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: cloud up and then they kind of it's a fake

660
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: and they and they pull out and Jalen gets caught

661
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: up with his feet and he falls and the play

662
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: gets busted up, like they're just messing around. They're just

663
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: having fun. I think they could have scored the runway

664
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: and I think the regular way, and Troy Aikman pointed

665
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: that out. He's like, yeah, I'd keep that one in

666
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: the back pocket. I don't think I don't think you

667
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: need that.

668
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: Didn't need to use it against the Bucks tonight.

669
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: Definitely they'll want to pull out of the touch push.

670
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: All right, anything else on this game? All right, let's

671
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: take a break, and when we get back, we get

672
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: you caught up on the news. All right, welcome back.

673
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: Let's get to the news. We've got a lot of

674
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: news to get to on this Monday night here in

675
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: southern California. Let's start with bad news for one of

676
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: the Southern California teams. The Los Angeles Chargers will be

677
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: without the services of Mike Williams for the balance of

678
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: this season. He suffered a season ending left ACL taar

679
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: in the chargers twenty eight to twenty four win over

680
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: the Vikings. The team announced it on Monday. The report

681
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: and the belief is that he'll be ready for training

682
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: camp next season, but that does not help the Chargers

683
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: this season. William Greg has been went on the field,

684
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: a big time important playmaker for this offense. He's battled

685
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: injuries for as long as I remember him being a

686
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: player with this team, since coming into the league, and

687
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: now he's got a big one to deal with, and

688
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: that leaves a big hole for the Chargers.

689
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sad for him. It's it's disappointing for the Chargers.

690
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: He's under contract next year. I checked his cap numbers,

691
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 4: like thirty two million, although the salary is seventeen They could.

692
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 4: They want to keep him, They probably will. They can.

693
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 4: They can fix it as they normally do, but he's

694
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: a guy just has been too unreliable. I was watching

695
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: this game when it happened, and my immediate reaction was like, oh,

696
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 4: don't you know cause it came on a short throw

697
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 4: that they're asking him to make yards after the catch

698
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 4: on a third and long, and he battled through a

699
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: couple defenders to try to get the first down. And

700
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: my immediate thought was like, oh, don't don't put Mike

701
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: Williams in that spot, like he's just gonna get injured.

702
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: You know, it was a tough spot and that's like

703
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 4: a crazy way to think about your.

704
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: What has Brandon Stalely done that before? Right? Well?

705
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: No, but here's the thing I was wrong, I think

706
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 4: because you can't think that way about it your number

707
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: one receiver, that like you can't give him the ball

708
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 4: in space to go try to break attack right or two.

709
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: But it just feels like that's the way Mike Williams'

710
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 4: career has gone that when he gets contacted, whether it's

711
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 4: with the ground or with opponents, like he just has

712
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: suffered so many injuries.

713
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: It's so frustrating, Like I find his career like, you know,

714
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: not it's not his fault.

715
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: Injuries aren't his fault.

716
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: But it's just like such a test of your patience

717
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: if you're a Chargers fan, because you have him, and

718
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: it changes your offense entirely, Like under Kellen Moore. It's

719
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: like the way they were moving him around, Like I

720
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: think it unleashed Keenan Allen too. It's like one of

721
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: the reasons we're seeing Keenan Allen explode like kind of

722
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: late in his career this way is because of Mike Williams. Now,

723
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 2: It's like, can Josh Palmer create that same environment. Quentin

724
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: Johnson's like a work in progress. It's like you're taking

725
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: a number two guys.

726
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: Johnson though like a similar profile player, So it's.

727
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like also someone like Williams next year when

728
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: his cap numbered is thirty two million, like he's supposed

729
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: to be the guy that is the next dude. He

730
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: only has I believe what three or four catches so far,

731
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: five catches this year for twenty six yards, and I

732
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: don't know, Like wide receivers typically in our league now

733
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: hit the ground running if they are dogs, and you

734
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: kind of need Quinton Johnson here now to be a

735
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: guy for them. There's no training wheels anymore. That's stinks, though,

736
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: That's stinks. In other injury news, the Saints will be

737
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: without Derek Card appears in the near future, but we

738
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: just don't know for how long the quarterback will be out.

739
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: He has a sprain right ac joint that's like the

740
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: shoulder area throwing shoulder he did. Dennis Allen did not

741
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: rule out his quarterback for Sundays game against the Bucks.

742
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: But it would be a surprise, you would think, to

743
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: see him in this game. And Mark, we hear it

744
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: all the time from people that play the game that

745
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: this is one of the worst kind of inies from

746
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: pain management. That you could play with it, but you're

747
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: gonna suffer playing with it. And I can't even imagine

748
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback playing with this type of injury. It happens,

749
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be pleasant. Whenever he does get

750
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: back on the field, now we'll see how much he misses.

751
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he took eleven sacks already this season.

752
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: So it's like in that world, like behind that line,

753
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: like if he comes back, do you reaggravate it? Are

754
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: you already like less effective because of it? You got

755
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 2: Tampa coming up. The Patriots two good, two solid defenses.

756
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: I mean Jameis Winston, who I kind of like, I

757
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: would say, honestly, like a couple of weeks ago, I

758
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 2: could maybe thought like jamis the higher version of Jameis

759
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 2: Winston can be what Derek Carr is, but he's so variable,

760
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: and like the early part of what we saw from

761
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 2: him on Sunday was just sort of a disaster, to

762
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: the point where I was like, the jet should trade

763
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: for Jameis wins Is, Like, no, they should, and nor

764
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 2: should anyone, Like, let the Saints deal with this guy

765
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: you want.

766
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 3: You got Derek Carr for a reason.

767
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: They believe in him, and it's like, it is a

768
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: disaster and a very winnable and if South in an

769
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: NFC South or a playoff situation in that conference in general,

770
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 2: where the Saints could sneaky win ten or eleven games

771
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: with Derek car and it's like, now you lose them

772
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: for a month, and if Winston is a mess, you're

773
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: in a whole different world.

774
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

775
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: When I when I watched that, after what I heard,

776
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 4: I was expecting Winston to be a disaster.

777
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: And he was fine.

778
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 4: He made it. He made a couple of throws in

779
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 4: that game. He set them up for the game when

780
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 4: you feel goal they didn't score any points. I'm not

781
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: saying that he was great, but it wasn't any disastrous

782
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: Jamis appearance. I'm just a little worried about him without

783
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 4: Sean Payton there, but he is a better backup than

784
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 4: most in their schedule, it's just preposterously favorable. I know,

785
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 4: you got Tampa who's two and one, and then at

786
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 4: New England. You could make an argument before their week

787
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 4: eleven by that at New England's the toughest game by

788
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 4: a decent amount in their first ten games, which is

789
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: just silly if you're in, if you're an AFC, I mean,

790
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't even know who is it?

791
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: Then?

792
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 4: Is it Tampa? Is it? Is it home for Jacksonville? Maybe?

793
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's definitely not the Colts or the

794
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 4: Panthers or the Titans, or Chicago or at Minnesota.

795
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: Like probably Jacksonville. And that's you know they are they

796
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: are no.

797
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: Great shape, like well we'll see, I mean, they're like

798
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: the twenty seventh.

799
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: Point well taken.

800
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like the Stevens. I think they can win

801
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 4: games with Jameis Winston. And you wouldn't want to see

802
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: Carr get rushed back. That was a really disappointing injury

803
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 4: for him, and it's a reminder, like people always say,

804
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: scrambling guys get hurt, like most of most of these

805
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: injuries come from being in the pocket. It was on

806
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 4: a play he's probably kicking himself. He didn't get rid

807
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: of the ball, held onto it for a really long time,

808
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: and took a vicious hit that they didn't call all

809
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: these like roughing the quarterback calls that they do make

810
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: when they're you know, when they're throwing them to the

811
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 4: ground and landing on with body weight. That was it

812
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: in a nutshell, and it took him out for a month,

813
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 4: and no one said anything that they didn't call a

814
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 4: penalty on that play.

815
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: And there's been issue us, as Mark said, with taking sacks.

816
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: And it's actually interesting that Dennis Allen kind of went

817
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: out of his way to say, well, that's fair, but

818
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: he said, I think that was the one play I

819
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: felt like he kind of hung onto the ball too long,

820
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: which is true, and he's gonna have to be Yeah,

821
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: and here's one thing about Derek Carr coach.

822
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's one thing of a jerk like

823
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 4: me is pointing it out.

824
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: Maybe unnecessary honesty there from Dennis, but Derek Carr is

825
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: a tough sob I bet I would not be surprised

826
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: if he's back next week. Maybe not this week, but

827
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: next week. And then it's just about pain tolerance, they say.

828
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: I just get the feeling. That's the kind of competitor

829
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: he is, and we'll see if he can play the

830
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: guitar with a bad wing. Let's look at other quarterback situations,

831
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: this one in Vegas where Derek Carr left and was

832
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: replaced by Jimmy Garoppolo Sunday Night Football. He takes some

833
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: a few nasty shots in that game. He finished the game,

834
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: he actually threw an interception in the last pass of

835
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: the game, and desperation and then on Monday, I went

836
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: into the concussion protocol and that is not a good thing.

837
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, Raiders head coach. So they're not sure when

838
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: the injury occurred.

839
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 7: There was nothing ever mentioned vic you know, or talked

840
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 7: about relative to that. I'm not even sure what you

841
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 7: know what when you know what hit or you know,

842
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 7: if it was just accumulation of I have no idea.

843
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 7: You know, there was never a conversation about that, you know.

844
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 7: So I'm not I'm not sure exactly, and I haven't

845
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 7: seen him yet. This morning, so I'm not exactly sure

846
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 7: when it when it took place, or if it was

847
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 7: just a culmination of things.

848
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a answer cracks me up.

849
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: It was like just like a man kind of like

850
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: shriveling and getting smaller and smaller by the minute to

851
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: do everything he can to not answer it.

852
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: It's really well said on there. I mean, I mean,

853
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 4: there was a major play in the game where Minka

854
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick hit him in the head with his helmet and

855
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 4: his helmet bounced off the ground on that play. It

856
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: does go to show like that that wasn't spotted. It

857
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: wasn't really talked about on the broadcast. I didn't think

858
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: twice about it watching it, but it's like, yeah, he

859
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 4: was speared in the helmet by another helmet, and this

860
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 4: shows how I don't know this.

861
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: The system is.

862
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: Not working perfectly for these quarterbacks health that he played

863
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: the rest of this game.

864
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: He seems to get banged up at one point in

865
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: every game where you think his season is over, and

866
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: then he returns. It's like they showed him late in

867
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: the game on the sideline and I know he's a

868
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 2: handsome person, so's they wasn't. I'm not speaking about his looks,

869
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: but he looked clear eyed. He looked with it. And

870
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: so when I read this, I was just kind of like,

871
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: when did this happen? And like what I mean, like

872
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, like how do you spot this stuff?

873
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: If it is sort of the kind of thing where

874
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: it's like there wasn't a crystal clear moment where as

875
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: you know, he suddenly afterward appeared like a completely different

876
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: human being. We've seen that, but I didn't see it

877
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: with Jimmy G in the Steelers game.

878
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: There is something about Jimmy G. By the way though,

879
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: it just seems like you're right, there is that moment

880
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 4: for him every game. And then it also seems like

881
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: he's getting his receivers hit because he's like the ball

882
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: takes forever to get there and it's over the middle

883
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: and just like just feels like there's a bunch of

884
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 4: car crashes on the Raiders offense all the time. People

885
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 4: are in the backfield blowing up Josh Jacobs.

886
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: It just looks like a.

887
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 4: Walking injury waiting to happen the Raiders offense.

888
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you thought the ball was hanging up with

889
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy G throwing spirals, Just wait until it's time for

890
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer in twenty twenty three.

891
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: What about a little aidan O'Connell. I mean, I think

892
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 2: that could add a little energy to an offense that

893
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: put me to sleep almost a night ago.

894
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 4: Who do the Raiders got this week? I should be

895
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: more prepared than this. Let's look, Oh, the Chargers might

896
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 4: get a little bit of a break for once in

897
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 4: their lives.

898
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: In other news, Oh boy, Gregy, the Stadies all right after?

899
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: J C. Jackson, who will remember the charges cornerback while

900
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: a member of the newly Patriots, he got ticketed for

901
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: going one hundred miles per hour on Route one in

902
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: South Attleboro, Massachusetts. And I never paid the fine, six

903
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: hundred dollars fine, never took the class. So what happens

904
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: The states and the state of Massachusetts say, oh, we're

905
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: gonna throw a Warren out for this guy's arrest. And

906
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: when that came to light, he was made inactive for

907
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: the Chargers first one of the season over the Vikings yesterday.

908
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley said later Monday that the move was unrelated

909
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: to the warrant. You know what, I don't know what's

910
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: going on here.

911
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 4: Does anybody know this is Staley. I, you know, we

912
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 4: got this text in our text thread. I was driving,

913
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 4: I believe at the time I got in and our

914
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 4: guy Big Funk gave us some good breaking news and

915
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 4: I said, oh, that makes sense why he was inactive.

916
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 4: I had not clicked on the link yet. When I

917
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 4: found out it was like a six hundred dollars fine

918
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 4: from for the traffic, I was like, this probably is

919
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: unrelated to the to the healthy scratch. I don't think.

920
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 4: I don't think they're benching him for that. But it's

921
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 4: been it's been a bad eighteen months for j C.

922
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 4: Jackson since he signed that contract. I mean, life changing money,

923
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 4: but the injury and just healthy scratch, it's just it's

924
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: a sign.

925
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm reading this article. Maybe my mistake was I should

926
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: have been on NFL dot com. But I'm reading the

927
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: ESPN article. The headline is Warren out where charges j C.

928
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: Jackson over six hundred dollars fine comic class. And that

929
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with why he was an actor

930
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: for the game. Why am I even talking about this?

931
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 8: Then?

932
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: Why are we talking about this?

933
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: I'm with you, like he was.

934
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: He was meant to complete a I guess a driving

935
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 2: or traffic or something type class called Brains at Risk,

936
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: which he decided.

937
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: He didn't want to take want to take brains at risk.

938
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: He didn't want to take brains at risk program that

939
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 2: would like the listeners, they could fast forward through this,

940
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 2: we can't.

941
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 4: He was he was the highest paid free agent a

942
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 4: year ago. This is just sort of a.

943
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: But Greggie, then why was what's the story then? Because

944
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: if the story isn't what happened in Massachusetts in twenty

945
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: twenty one, then if we're going to be talking about this,

946
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: I need to know why he was inactive because right

947
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: now what we've done here in the media is we've

948
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: smashed together two perhaps unrelated situations. Yeah, that have been.

949
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: Sort of like J. C. Jackson's in the air. So

950
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 4: this got a little extra pop, and I think it's

951
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 4: good as a reminder don't be driving one hundred miles

952
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 4: an hour and if you get it, you got to

953
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: show up for the class.

954
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: That's what I did the sport.

955
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a service for you know, whether you're

956
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: in England or in the States, you don't need to

957
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: be going one hundred miles an hour. If they even

958
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: have him on one hundred miles an hour in England.

959
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 1: And if you must go one hundred miles per hour,

960
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: wear a seatbelt. Where that's that's speaking of scary stuff

961
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: and safety belts, but it's not going to save you.

962
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: That's the other thing when you're on a plane and

963
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, here's here's the buckle, you know, here's

964
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: the mask that you're gonna put on. Here's heads up,

965
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: your seat's a flotation device. No, if this, if this

966
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: ends in the way we don't want it to end.

967
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: It's ova Johnny, we gone, and no seatbelt is gonna

968
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 1: save you. You know. Well maybe maybe it's a bumpy landing. Whatever,

969
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: don't don't come for me. The Pittsburgh Steelers charter plane

970
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: from Las Vegas made it an emergency landing in Kansas

971
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: City early Monday morning. A Steeler spokesperson posting on social

972
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: media that everyone on the plane is fine and that

973
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: the team is quote making necessary plans to arrive back

974
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh later today. I'm sure they are there by. Now.

975
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: This is where this freaks me out a little bit.

976
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: It landed three fifty five am Central because of oil

977
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: pressure failure in one of the engines. No thank you, No,

978
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: I'll take the mat in bus. That is terrifying. Yeah.

979
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: I think this was tied to a sandwich prop that

980
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: I had a couple of years ago. Obviously not act

981
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: an active prop, but came close.

982
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: This is where you find out a lot about your teammates,

983
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: Like there is one guy that just made this experience

984
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 4: I bet better for everyone but his good attitude, maybe

985
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 4: some jokes and whatnot. But there's also one guy and

986
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 4: that just that just won't stop complaining and or just

987
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 4: made it worse, like the whole time, Like you landed

988
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 4: at four, everyone's unhappy and he just won't shut up

989
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 4: about it. Because you're still there eight hours later. No

990
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 4: one's happy. But there's one person I bet on that

991
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 4: team that the rest of them are whispering about being

992
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: just like, ok, can he just give it a rest?

993
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 4: We get it. It's all in the same situation.

994
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: He's probably the guy that's screaming we're all gonna die,

995
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: like and the pilots on like, hey, you know, we

996
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: got like multiple engines here, so we're gonna be fine,

997
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: but we're just gonna take this down. And he won't

998
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: stop screaming that everyone's done anyway. The Steelers are okay,

999
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: but that that's never that's never good. So emergency landing's bad.

1000
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: In other news, also bad. You don't hit a guy

1001
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: in the junk. You just don't do it. I don't.

1002
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: There's no reason unless there's a your life is on

1003
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: the line, or some other scenario to hit someone in

1004
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: the private parts. And that, according to Sauce Gardner of

1005
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: the Jets, is what mac Jones did to him during

1006
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Sunday's fifty fifteen to ten Patriots win at MetLife Stadium.

1007
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: Sauce responded by like pushing mac Jones, who then theatrically

1008
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: flung himself backwards, did not get the flag he was

1009
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: looking for, and then Sauce sent out a video saying, hey, look,

1010
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: just NFL realized before you find me for pushing your

1011
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: beloved quarterback, this guy tapped me in the nards. Here

1012
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: is Sauce Gardner when asked about it on Monday.

1013
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I got tackled. He reached his hand up to

1014
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 8: try to like give me to help what and I

1015
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 8: just like moved his hand out of the way. So

1016
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 8: there he get up. He just come out to me

1017
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 8: like but job. But while he's saying that he hit

1018
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 8: me in my he hit me in my private part.

1019
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: So it was like.

1020
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 8: I didn't react how I really wanted to, but that

1021
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 8: was just like the reaction that came after that. But

1022
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 8: I definitely wouldn't expecting that first time. You know, it's

1023
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 8: the first time or everything. I guess, I don't know.

1024
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: Man. Also, he almost said the D word and he

1025
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: stopped himself, So it wasn't the nards, it was the

1026
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: other thing, which is interesting. Good job, Sauce.

1027
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're probably like wearing a cup in general,

1028
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: so it's that kind of all Its all in one

1029
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: central area. But I don't know, it's like another little

1030
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: tiny chapter in the Mac Jones might be slightly annoying,

1031
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: Like there was some stuff that bubbled up last year

1032
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 2: and it's like really like I can't remember the last

1033
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: time if it was, like you know, we have then

1034
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 2: dominic ensues adventures from years past, but like, uh, you

1035
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 2: know how many quarterbacks have been tagged with this accusation.

1036
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: It's so specific that I believe it from Sauce Gardner.

1037
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, even like the way he walked up to the

1038
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 4: podium when he got drafted. There's just something a little

1039
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 4: something about Mac And it's so funny because Patriots fans

1040
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: today are all just like, oh, he's just got this

1041
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 4: dirty reputation. This was nothing. People just get in their corners.

1042
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 4: It's like, first of all, it's not that serious that

1043
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: you need to like feel like you're defending a political party.

1044
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 4: But the second is I find Saus's explanation pretty convincing.

1045
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: And even the video where it's like people are like

1046
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: you can't really see anything, it's like you can kind

1047
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 4: of see that. It looks like a game a little tap,

1048
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 4: and Sauce wasn't taking it too seriously ever, but it

1049
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 4: looks like a game a little tap.

1050
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: Everyone knows he did it right.

1051
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 4: It's like the way Sauce said it, I fully believe

1052
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 4: Sauce Garden.

1053
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: It's not the first time that Mac Jones has done

1054
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: kind of questionable, like wrestling heel type moves. I likened

1055
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: him on Twitter today the like like the bad guy

1056
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: Jock in the eighties movie who's just kind of a

1057
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: bully and a jerk and underhanded and gets his in

1058
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: the end. I kind of think that's probably how Mac

1059
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: Jones's NFL career will play out in general. But at

1060
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 1: the same time, I can't. I mean, he's a dirt

1061
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: bag but you know, that's not the worst thing. It's

1062
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: good to have a like a you know, like a

1063
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: little treacherous heel, Yeah, playing quarterback. Like it's it's fine.

1064
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: It's good to have a couple of those guys. I

1065
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: think it's good. It's a he's like a character actor

1066
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: in the NFL at the quarterback position. The character he

1067
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: plays is a dirt bag, and that's fine, that's good.

1068
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: And Patriots fans just own it too, like, you know,

1069
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: he's a dirt bag. You know he did it.

1070
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 4: It's just funny because it's just like all teams, it

1071
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: just seems it's like he's made it just as crazy.

1072
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: It's the Patriots. And it's not like he had took

1073
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: a full swinging kick to the groin. It was like

1074
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 4: a totally ridiculous thing to do in this situation, this

1075
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 4: little tap walking by. It was like, what are you doing, man,

1076
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 4: what are you doing?

1077
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: I don't sure there's I mean, yeah, like a severe

1078
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: kick would be to a different degree. But the entire

1079
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 2: concept is in a really rough place.

1080
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Speaker 3: To begin with that.

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Speaker 1: Year where he did a QB slide with like his

1082
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: foot up trying to hit a guy's yards like he

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00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know. He fights dirty and you

1084
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: just don't see that at the quarterback position. It's like

1085
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: the glamour position. But there's nothing glamorous about mac Jones.

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00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: And maybe it's just like maybe you can respect it

1087
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of pluck there. Like he'll do

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00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: what it takes. He's that guy that in the fight,

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00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: like he'll guide, he'll he'll gouge your eyeball out if

1090
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: he has to. He does not care. He'll use the

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00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: broken bottle, He'll do anything he could do to get

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Speaker 1: away with it and win. He's a real patriot.

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Speaker 4: He's a great I mean, this is like a great

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00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 4: symbol of the post Tom Brady era patriots, Like, hey,

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00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 4: we might be mediocre, but we'll tap your on the

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Speaker 4: way by. It's like, what's going on.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of a Dan Campbell kind of guy. Like

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Speaker 1: Campbe would be like, yeah, that's that. That's what when

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00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: Campbell talks about will bite your kneecaps off. You'll do

1100
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Speaker 1: anything to win, even if it's underhanded. That's a competitor

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Speaker 1: that you like. I bet if you asked Dan Campbell

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Speaker 1: about this, he'd be like, that's I'm totally cool with

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Speaker 1: it all right right. Finally, in other Patriots news, Bill

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00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: Belichick was on the Greg Hill Show on WEEI in

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00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: Boston and he was asked and I got a kick

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00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 1: out of this because it's just funny, like imagining Bill

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00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: Belichick is like a real person who has takes, Like

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Speaker 1: what are his thoughts? Like does he find Taylor Swift

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00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: physically attractive? For instance? Oh yeah, hubba hubba. Bill likes

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00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: him some, Taylor. Because this is what he had to

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00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: say about the reports and almost the confirmation that chiefs

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Speaker 1: tight End Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift are now an item.

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00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: Dish sister, where do.

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Speaker 2: You fall on that Travis kelce Taylor Swift power couple

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: Travis Kelsey has had a lot of big catches in

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Speaker 9: his career. This would be the biggest.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't want to get into Bill's personal business,

1119
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: but he's had he had a very public long term girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: Linda Holiday, and I think that relationship ran its course

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00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: this year. That means Bill's single, ready to mingle, and

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00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: maybe this is his I'm just throwing this out there

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Speaker 1: as a theory that he knows that the Swift Kelsey

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00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: romance is probably more fling than a serious and now

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00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: he's be known his thoughts about Taylor Swift in terms

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00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: of what she is in terms of like where she

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00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: stacks up as a romantic partner, which apparently to Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick is very high.

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Speaker 4: This is a disturbing theory. I did not see you

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Speaker 4: taking it in this direction.

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00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 1: But like it checks out, like you don't want to

1132
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Speaker 1: think she's a great catch, the greatest catch he ever made.

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Speaker 1: This is a one of the greatest tight ends who's

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Speaker 1: ever lived.

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Speaker 4: Did he pre write that though, because that was a

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00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 4: pretty good line. If did he know the question was

1137
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 4: coming and men had that ready?

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00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: This is a pretty good question. Listen and watch again

1139
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: because you could see maybe are his gears turning where

1140
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: he's looking to recite or does it seem like it's

1141
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: just rolling off his tongue. Let's let's watch again.

1142
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 3: Where do you fall on that? Travis Kelcey Taylor Swift

1143
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: power couple in the NFL.

1144
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 9: Travis Kelsey has had a lot of big catches in

1145
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 9: his career. This would be the biggest it.

1146
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: So it feels it does feel like he's operating almost

1147
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: off like a que card or a mental cue card.

1148
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: But I am on trying to imagine a world where

1149
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick agreed to go into any media situation with

1150
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: a pre planned answer to something playful and Joe he

1151
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 2: just looks Jovie like that. It just doesn't seem like

1152
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick would do any of that work. I thought

1153
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: it was I'm taking this whole Taylor swift and being like,

1154
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: I'm kind of buying it at face value. Like I

1155
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 2: got up super early this morning to watch like Travis

1156
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 2: Kelcey's like SNL appearance.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, these two kind of like fit together.

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00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 2: They just fit together, Like I kind of think this

1159
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 2: is great, and I know there's some is it real?

1160
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: Is it not real?

1161
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: Like I heard people saying they didn't think that was

1162
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 2: actually Travis Kelcey leaving the locker room, whether that's that

1163
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 2: is an idiot's commentary, it they are.

1164
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 4: I think on the conspiracy theory, Mark doesn't believe in I.

1165
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 3: Don't believe in plenty of them, and that's definitely one

1166
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 2: It's like I just think that, Look, there's something about

1168
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: the way she operated up in that suite with the

1169
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: mom where I was like.

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Speaker 3: I kind of buy this.

1171
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: I think she I think they dig each other and

1172
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: I think that you've got Jason Kelcey kind of confirming

1173
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 2: it verbally too, at different time points in time, and

1174
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: it's like the whole family seems kind of excited about

1175
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I want to believe in it.

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Speaker 4: I think I think Bill's with you, and I think

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00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 4: Bill just he just loves love, and I think he

1178
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: just loves beating the New York Jets. He's never in

1179
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 4: a better mood than the twenty four hours after beating

1180
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: the New York Jets. I'm not even joking. I have

1181
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: noticed this. He's just it's just true. Watch is pres

1182
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 4: conference yesterday, he was glowing. They're like they're like one

1183
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: in two and could barely do anything in that game.

1184
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: And he was like, tell me about over the Moon.

1185
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: You know what's worse than the getting beat all the

1186
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: time by Tom Brady's Patriots. It's getting beat by the

1187
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: Patriots when they stink that's not a good team, but

1188
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: they still win. And tell the shift that has that

1189
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: song Cardigan, And when I felt like I was an

1190
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: old Cardigan under someone's bed, you put me on and

1191
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: said I was your favorite. Imagine imagine the next t

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Speaker 1: Swift tour and she changes the lyrics to Sleeveless Hoodie.

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00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm telling you Bill put his hat in the ring

1194
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: with that comment. Oh she's into jocks are and I'm

1195
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all time. See what she thinks

1196
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: about that. You say it's disturbing. I say he's a man.

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00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean he might need Andy Reid you

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00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: know before.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like something she.

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Speaker 4: Has this equation.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that that now she must be

1202
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: with Bill, I'll check. I'm saying sometimes we view these

1203
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: larger than life legendary NFL figures, it's almost like human

1204
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 1: statues and not men of flesh and blood that have

1205
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: feelings and desires. And I think Bills Bill's in the ring.

1206
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I know what We've been to enough combines

1207
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: and owners meetings to understand that many of these coaches

1208
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: are flesh and blood and have desires. I would just

1209
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 2: say from a distance, that's overtly, that's very that's verified.

1210
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we should move on from the story, because.

1211
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 4: This should be the way we we wrap up every

1212
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: at n after dark Monday night, is with the story

1213
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 4: just like this.

1214
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: Just like talking about just talking about Bills, like single life,

1215
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: the town I live in that like the singles bars

1216
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: the Purple Orchid and just imagining Bill belly up at

1217
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: the bar getting a rum. Did you watch the game

1218
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: on surveying the scene?

1219
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 4: Hey, look, there was a time and Mark might remember

1220
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 4: this where he was on the wrong side of the

1221
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 4: New York tabloids for some stories went back absolutely giants

1222
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 4: that he was not appreciating that sort of coverage. But

1223
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 4: that was a much younger Bill Belichick.

1224
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, this would not be a new concept to Bill Belichick.

1225
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: According to the tabloid reports from back then.

1226
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: He's a man of flesh and blood and desire. All right,

1227
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. If you like celebrations

1228
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: of all time NFL moments, head over to NFL Plus

1229
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: where Greg and I broke down the Dolphins complete dismantling

1230
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: of the Broncos seventy to twenty down in Miami Gardens

1231
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: on Sunday. We did our Game of the Week on

1232
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, just studying all the madness and all the

1233
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: trickery and the precision on display in that all time

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00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: effort by the Dolphins offense. So check out NFL plus

1235
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: our game of the Week Dolphins v. Broncos. We will

1236
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday with Connie Fox and the wheel

1237
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: keeps turning. Anything else, that's it. Everybody, enjoy your Tuesday

1238
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: and until Wednesday. His hat's in the ring. Hats in

1239
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: the ring. Heed the call.