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Speaker 2: So are you gonna do a ton of shopping now?

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Speaker 2: Is that what that means?

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Speaker 1: I mean, basically, Yeah, that's what that means. I'm reinventing myself.

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Speaker 1: So that means I'm buying stuff of course, obviously, Oh.

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Speaker 2: La la, I'm Theosa and I'm Mala. Today we're talking

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Speaker 1: I think reinvention has a lot of different connotations, different applications.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there is this pressure to buy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to feel better, I'm going to be happier,

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Speaker 1: I feel like that word reinvention, new life, new body,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely you're sold. It's like you're being sold yourself back

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I think it's baked into the you know,

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Speaker 1: And it's in those films in particular, it's the reinvention

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Speaker 1: and look good on camera, And it's not necessarily something

434
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: that people are going to recreate on a daily basis

435
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: for themselves, you know. But sometimes that temporary fix can

436
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: be a boost. And I think that's also part of

437
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 1: this too, is like is it a big change to

438
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: your life and overall like change to the way you

439
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: feel about yourself or is it like a band aid

440
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: on a gunshot wound? Right? What are the deeper issues?

441
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: Do you have access to a dermatologist, you know, can

442
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: you afford like monthly visits to the hair salon, especially now,

443
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, when all of those things can be so

444
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: expensive and the cost of living is such that I

445
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: don't know, it's interesting because we have like still tons

446
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,679
Speaker 1: of consumerism in this space, but the cost of living

447
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: is also increasing constantly, So I know that I think

448
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: about that and struggle with that, Like how do I

449
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: justify the beauty purchase and the beauty treatments and the this,

450
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: that and the third when there's all these other things

451
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: going on? But I like them and they make me

452
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: feel nice, you know, but also can I really afford this?

453
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, And that's a real conversation to have with yourself,

454
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: you know, is a sustainable long term right, especially when

455
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: you get into hobby, like like I've bought so many

456
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 2: running shoes and they're expensive, but you run enough that

457
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: you have to switch them out, you know, and so like,

458
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: are you ready to make that commitment? You know, because

459
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: it's not just a one time thing some some of them,

460
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: some of the purchases are right, but some of them

461
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 2: are not. You have can you sustain it?

462
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: Yeah? And that's so important too for like your health

463
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: and to prevent injury. Yes, Like you need the right

464
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: shoes to run as much as you're running. I mean

465
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: you're like about to run your second marathon in like

466
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: six months.

467
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 3: You need the right shoes. It do you need the

468
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 3: right shoes or it just it can't happen.

469
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: But that goes back to the shoes are a tool, Yeah,

470
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: to help you reach a goal.

471
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: Yes. I think this is a good segue into like

472
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: the personal right, like how do once we have this

473
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: new version of ourselves, Like how do we sustain it?

474
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: And I think a really big piece of it is

475
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: like it's still you, Like it may be like something

476
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: that you worked on, but in order for it to

477
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: be sustainable, it has to be authentic. Because if it's

478
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: if it's phony, if it's not actually you, I don't

479
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: think that it's sustainable. And I think that that's part

480
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: of the reinvention. It's not that you're making a brand

481
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: new you. It's that you're working on things that are

482
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 2: getting you to another version of yourself, but it's still you,

483
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: deep in there.

484
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: Yes.

485
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: And I think another piece of this that we also

486
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about is the artistic reinvention and how artists,

487
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: how songwriters, how recording artists, people like Madonna Beyonce, Miley Cyrus,

488
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: Tina Turner. I think throughout their careers have gone through

489
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 1: huge public and creative reinventions that it's a whole new sound,

490
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: it's a whole new look, it's a whole new vibe,

491
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 1: and so there's also a creative piece to it, and

492
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 1: then they like bring us along.

493
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: You know.

494
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,880
Speaker 1: Cowboy Carter for example. Although Beyonce has always had her

495
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: country influence in her work and in her music, and

496
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: she's always shouted out Texas and Louisiana, Cowboy Carter was

497
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: like a really intentional, explicit, in your face, in a

498
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: beautiful way country album from Beyonce. And then the show

499
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: and the experience and the crowd everybody's following along in

500
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: that reinvention and in the look and wearing the cowboy

501
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: hats and the boots and the fringe and the denim

502
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: in ways that I don't think we saw at previous

503
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: Beyonce concerts.

504
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, pushing on that is that part of for

505
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 2: us as fans also, we're falling into that consumerism oh totally.

506
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: You know, we're buying into it because like how many

507
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: of us are rewaring the cowboy boots, the hats, the

508
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 2: outfits that we bought for Renaissance or we bought for

509
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: Cowboy Carter. Yea, you know, there is still I feel

510
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 2: I feel like with concerts right now in particular and

511
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: not just with Beyonce, there's like themes for them now,

512
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 2: and so everyone is buying an outfit for them, And

513
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, when did that happen? Because before it's like

514
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: you buy your you show up in your outfit for

515
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: your concert. Right, it's still a cute outfit. It's a

516
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: concert going outfit, right, maybe it's different than your regular wear.

517
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: But now some concerts are thematic and you have to

518
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: buy a look for them, you know, or you pull

519
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 2: pieces from your own wardrobe depending on like the what

520
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: the theme is. I don't have like cowboy boots. I

521
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: don't have fringe. That's just not a part of my

522
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 2: regular aesthetic. So I was like, I'm not buying it.

523
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm not because I might not rewear it, right, But

524
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: I do think that there is this interesting piece to

525
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: what you're saying where the artist is doing a reinvention

526
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: and then the fan is like also into it, which

527
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: is again not a bad thing, but then there's this

528
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: push for like consume over consuming or just consuming.

529
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, art is a product, music is a product, film

530
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: is a product, podcaster products. And so Beyonce is a

531
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: business woman and she's crafting a product and then making

532
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: tons of merch and then launching a hole aesthetic like

533
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 1: that her entire fan base can buy into. I mean

534
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: at Rena's. We went to Renaissance. I went on Amazon

535
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: and bought an alien costume so that I could be

536
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: Alien Superstar. And when we got there, I bought the

537
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: silver cowboy hat to complete the look, and I wore

538
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: boots and for Cowboy Carter Well, I thrifted a denim jumpsuit.

539
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: I will say that I thrifted it, but I also

540
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: had purchased, like cowprint, a cowprint look for eedc So

541
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: I combined them. But I still had to buy things, yeah,

542
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: to fit the vibe and to fit the look that

543
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to participate in. And so it's true it

544
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: is creative, but also marketing is creative. Commercials are creative,

545
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Like absolutely, selling anything involves some level of creativity, and

546
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: so this is not separate from the consumerism at all.

547
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: It's just another facet of its It goes into I

548
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: think also like wanting to belong because if you're the

549
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: only one not in the themed outfit.

550
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: Like what are you?

551
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: What are you doing here?

552
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: What are you been doing here?

553
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 2: You know? And this is not to say you have

554
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: to go out and buy the things, but I feel

555
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: like it's that feeling, right, that that anxiety of like, oh,

556
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm not dressed up like everybody else, so I have

557
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: to dress up like everybody else, you know, because everyone's

558
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: going to be in theme. It's like going to a

559
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: Halloween party and not being in a costume, you know

560
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like you, it's part of belonging and

561
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: like wanting to be a part of it, of that experience,

562
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: and so it is so interconnected the buying of the

563
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: things and wanting to belong.

564
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: Oh, I know if I would have if I showed

565
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: up to Cowboy Carter on theme, I would have not

566
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: had as much fun. I know myself. I want to participate.

567
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: I want the compliments on the look, and I got

568
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: I got a.

569
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: Lot of them alone.

570
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: Amazing, you look so good, and you were giving Selena

571
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: at the Beyonce concert.

572
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: Selena at the Rodeo.

573
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, precisely.

574
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: And so it's fun and you know, we are we

575
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: love to do our analysis, but we're still part We

576
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: give the analysis because we participate absolutely, so we know

577
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: how it works because we are you know, we get

578
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: sold a bill of goods and we buy the stuff,

579
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: you know, and we wear it once and then we

580
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: never wear it again. I mean, it happens. And so

581
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: we're not like.

582
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: Above it, no, not above it.

583
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: We're not beyond it. No.

584
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: And I think like there is this feeling, this idea

585
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: of reinvention, right it also comes from if you feel

586
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: like you're stuck in a rut. Yeah, you feel like

587
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: I'm bored. I'm bored of things in my life right now.

588
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm bored with my look. I'm bored with my style.

589
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: I've outgrown it. That's a part of the wanting to

590
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: reinvent yourself is you feel like you've outgrown this version

591
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: of yourself. And that is not a problem. There's nothing

592
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: wrong with that. And so I when thinking about this episode,

593
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: I was thinking like, Okay, well we're the moments that

594
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: I felt like I was in a rut and I

595
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: felt like I'm gonna grow in some way. I need

596
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: to push myself in some way. And that was for

597
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: me definitely twenty twenty one. That was a year I

598
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: started running seriously. That was the year I applied to

599
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: grad school, and it was also during my Sadden return,

600
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: and so I feel like those were the years that

601
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: I like, really like it wasn't a reinvention necessarily, but

602
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 2: I in some ways it was. And in some ways

603
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: I feel like it was like tapping into parts of

604
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: me that were already there, but bringing them to the

605
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: surface and like letting them actually out in the wild,

606
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: setting them free.

607
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like allowing for that that I don't know.

608
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to say doper cooler better, but there.

609
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: Is just an elevated version of ourselves, yeah, inside waiting

610
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: waiting to come out.

611
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's all we're getting at here.

612
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: It's like those things are already in you. You don't

613
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: need the product for it. But I think often we're

614
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: sold that we need the product in order to get

615
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: that version of ourselves, but that might already be in us.

616
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and both of us.

617
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: Having you finishing your grad school journey, I'm still in

618
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: my grad school journey, and even a degree being a

619
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: type of product that we consume because they cost money

620
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: so expensive, they're so expensive, and not just the tuition,

621
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: but like the getting to school, the time at school

622
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: that you're not working and making money, you know, whatever

623
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: computers you need to buy for school and gear and books,

624
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: and I mean, it all costs money, and it's good

625
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: for us.

626
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 3: Education is good for us.

627
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: Education is one of those things that once you have it,

628
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: they can't take it away from you, right, That's what

629
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: our parents tell us. But to get it, to acquire

630
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: it can be so expensive. It's in the United States,

631
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have universal free education, not even

632
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: in our public universities. Right, Our public universities are just

633
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: as expensive as private universities. And this goes back to accessibility.

634
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: This goes back to the question of capitalism and whether

635
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: or not there is any ethical consumption under capitalism, and

636
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: even something that should be as universal a human right

637
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: as education, as learning is not accessible to so many

638
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: and has such a big price tag on it, just

639
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: like third spaces, right, So inaccessible there is a cost

640
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: of entry higher ed there's a cost of entry. And

641
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: those countries, like I think the Cuban example is always

642
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: brought up about, uh, like the medical school system in

643
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: Cuba and how it's relatively accessible, right, But then look

644
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 1: at the state that Cuba is in and the way

645
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: the United States in particular has punished Cuba right for

646
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: attempting some sort of an egalitarian economic model. It's so

647
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: against our values as a country that we put an

648
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: embargo on them and and and have really uh put

649
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: a chokehold on Cuba economically. Right. But but what's one

650
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: of their their ethics is well, education should be free,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it's so so antithetical to what we

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Speaker 1: believe as Americans. So yeah, it's it's hard, guys, it's hard.

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Speaker 2: I'm loving the like juxtaposition of Mala's like American history,

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Speaker 2: American studies like degree showing and then her going It's hard, guys.

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Speaker 1: It's hard, guys.

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Speaker 3: It's hard.

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Speaker 1: That's why people listen to this podcast because we can

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Speaker 1: do both.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we can do both.

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Speaker 1: We can do both. On the reinvention piece, I will

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Speaker 1: say that one of my little pieces of reinvention came

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Speaker 1: along with moving into my own place, going to grad school,

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Speaker 1: but also getting rid of my car. I think this

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Speaker 1: is one of the only areas in my life where

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Speaker 1: I have seen reinvention where it had to do with

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Speaker 1: getting rid of something that cost money. And I have

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Speaker 1: started taking public transportation, taking the metro, taking the bus.

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Speaker 1: Because of school, I get to ride for free, and

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Speaker 1: it's one of the only areas that I can pinpoint

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Speaker 1: that has required less consumption. That piece and the way

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Speaker 1: that I move around the world and the way that

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Speaker 1: I get around. I do take ubers. Of course, sometimes

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Speaker 1: public transpot is not fast enough. But I do think

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Speaker 1: that there's ways that we can reinvent ourselves by letting go,

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Speaker 1: by shedding, by simplifying, by minimizing. It doesn't all have

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Speaker 1: to be consumption, it doesn't all have to cost money.

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Speaker 2: I've been feeling that way about my own closet because

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Speaker 2: I feel like this year I've been in like a

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Speaker 2: style rat where I'm like, I don't know what to wear,

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Speaker 2: but I have a closet full of things, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm actually just not getting creative enough, And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't need to buy anything because I actually have

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Speaker 2: a lot of things. How do I style it differently?

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Speaker 2: I rewar things all the time, but when we come

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Speaker 2: to record, I'm like, well, there's a camera, let me

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Speaker 2: wear something different, even if it's in my own closet.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, also getting comfortable with like be seen in the

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Speaker 2: same shit, like this was not a thing ten years ago,

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Speaker 2: and this is just me talking to myself, like, be

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Speaker 2: comfortable wearing the same thing because it's one it's cute,

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Speaker 2: two you like it, and three like who cares.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're traumatized. We're traumatized by the Lizzie McGuire movie.

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Speaker 1: Lizzy McGuire, you're an outfit repeater.

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Speaker 3: I know. That's when everything's changed.

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Speaker 1: Ye, that moment, that moment, let it go, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've decided that I am going to embrace being

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Speaker 2: a cartoon character and just like having outfits that are

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Speaker 2: just like, yeah, that's my theosa outfit. I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: wear that. It's your look, it's my look, it's my look. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so yeah, I agree. I think sometimes it's already

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Speaker 2: in us, the thing that we're looking for, and it

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Speaker 2: just needs to be brought to the surface. Whether that

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Speaker 2: be a physical thing like surging through your closet and

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Speaker 2: getting creative, whether that be tapping into something that you

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Speaker 2: loved but forgot about, you know, whether that be a

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Speaker 2: hobby rereading a book from childhood. I've been like pushing

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Speaker 2: our book club members to do that because we have

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Speaker 2: a summer book challenge. I'm like, reread a book from

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Speaker 2: when you were a kid, and like tell us about it,

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Speaker 2: And so I feel like there are pieces of reinvention,

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Speaker 2: like you said, that don't require consumption. So just some

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Speaker 2: food for thought we are offering to do with that

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Speaker 2: what you will are offering to you, dear listener.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for listening. This has been another episode

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Speaker 1: of Lookout Radio.

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