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Speaker 1: Welcome into a Week fifteen Giants Hangout, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Crestown. My name is Madeline Burke, joined as always

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Speaker 1: by Russ Salzburg and Matt Sietack and guys, we're fifteen

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Speaker 1: weeks into the season. There's four more games left, but

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Speaker 1: we've got to start by talking about Week fourteen. The

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Speaker 1: Giants back at home is a tough loss to the Saints.

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Speaker 1: It feels like if the last couple of weeks, it

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Speaker 1: feels like the offense is really getting into a stride

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Speaker 1: late in the game, and we saw that happening again

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Speaker 1: Sunday at MetLife. When you know, late in the game

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Speaker 1: the Giants are putting together drives. It's almost like Drew

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Speaker 1: Lock really thrives Matt in that two minute offense format.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, it seems like the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks the offense has definitely had more

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Speaker 2: success when they're kind of running this you know, no huddle,

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Speaker 2: fast paced offense. I mean, you know, And we saw

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Speaker 2: it on towards the end of the fourth quarter when

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Speaker 2: the Giants drove down the field and scored that touchdown.

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Speaker 2: We saw Tyrone Tracy get involved as a pass catcher

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Speaker 2: which he.

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Speaker 3: Hadn't really done for most of the game.

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Speaker 2: I think he had a catch or two, but it

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Speaker 2: was towards that last drive I think he had like

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Speaker 2: three receptions, you know, picked up a couple of first downs.

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Speaker 2: The whole offense seemed to get you know, just performed

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Speaker 2: better and be more efficient when they were a little

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Speaker 2: more up tempto and fast paced. So you know, typically

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Speaker 2: you don't see teams come out of the gate in

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Speaker 2: the first quarter and run a up, fast paced, up

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Speaker 2: tempo offense. But maybe that's what this offense needs to do,

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Speaker 2: especially on you know, this Sunday against the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 2: team that you know is coming in very hungry and

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Speaker 2: it is they have an offense that is going to

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Speaker 2: score a lot of points. So in order to have

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Speaker 2: any sort of chance, you're gonna have to keep up.

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Speaker 2: So I would like to see that, you know, fast pace,

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Speaker 2: no huddle offense come out a little sooner in the

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Speaker 2: game this Sunday and you know, see if it gives

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Speaker 2: us some results like we saw at the end of

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter last week's game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's it's interesting that you mentioned Tracy. Tracy

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Speaker 4: had as many targets in that game, you know, when

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Speaker 4: it all was said and done, as malikabers they both

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Speaker 4: had ten. But that said, yeah, you're right, but you know,

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Speaker 4: it's the same old, same old, same old. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you dig yourself a hole and there's not really enough

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Speaker 4: firepower there to get out of it so late, you know,

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Speaker 4: as much as yeah, and there was Listen, it was

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Speaker 4: great to see the offense starting to do a little

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Speaker 4: something later in the game. But hey, I got to

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Speaker 4: give kudos to the defense. You're playing with a defensive line,

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Speaker 4: you're playing with a bunch of a team, battered and bruised,

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Speaker 4: and you know, keeping the other team to fourteen points.

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Speaker 4: They played really well. And listen, I'm not one of

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Speaker 4: those that believes in jinxes, okay, but I'm starting to

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Speaker 4: believe that Murphy's Law has taken over the Giants for

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Speaker 4: this season. We're talking about a kick return call back

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Speaker 4: for a touchdown. We're talking about a field goal three

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Speaker 4: points taken off the board. That's ten points, and then

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Speaker 4: you talk about a block field goal at the end

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Speaker 4: of the game that's thirteen points. I mean, it just

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Speaker 4: left me scratching my head, like it's like whatever can

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Speaker 4: go wrong will go wrong. And now as we say,

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Speaker 4: we have the Ravens coming in. I never ever look

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Speaker 4: at the lines on games. I don't get into it.

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Speaker 4: I don't bet on it. But the Giants are fourteen

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Speaker 4: and a half point underdogs at home against the Ravens

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Speaker 4: team that is very good. And to make things more difficult,

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Speaker 4: the Ravens need this game. I mean, you know, they

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Speaker 4: don't have anything locked up. I think they're one of

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Speaker 4: three teams of them, the Chargers and the Broncos. There

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Speaker 4: all three of them are eight and five. So you

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Speaker 4: know there's people are still vying, you know, for that

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Speaker 4: wild card spot. So listen, Giants are up against it.

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Speaker 4: The best thing that I could say that the Giants

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Speaker 4: can do is, Matt, what you said, try to get

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Speaker 4: out of the gate early on offense. You know, the

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Speaker 4: Ravens are going to score points and the Ravens defense

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Speaker 1: An understatement to say the least. But you mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Giants defense, they're going to have their their work

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Speaker 1: also you've got Derrick Henry who's thirty years old and

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Speaker 1: just running through you know, defense is like a hot

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Speaker 1: who coming off the week thirteen lost to the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: His mom said to him, you know, Lamar, I need

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Speaker 1: to see you run more. And he said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: my mom wants me to run the ball more. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have to run the ball more. The next time

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Speaker 1: he's on the field is Sunday against the Giants, when

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Speaker 1: he's going to be focusing on running the ball more.

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Speaker 1: Against the Giants defense, it's really struggled against the run.

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Speaker 1: But to the Giants credit Sunday against the Saints, you

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Speaker 1: hold Alvin Kamarat a forty four yards rushing the run.

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Speaker 1: Defense it has been struggling this season and especially of late,

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Speaker 1: kind of found a little bit of something matter on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that? And is that something that can

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Speaker 1: be translated maybe not going to completely shut down the

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Speaker 1: can be build off of. Because again Shane Bowen, when

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Speaker 1: run defense was really a point of emphasis of a

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, to be honest, going into this past Sunday's game,

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Speaker 2: I was very concerned about the run defense because, as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, it struggled all season and especially the last

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Speaker 2: you know, six weeks or so. But on top of that,

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Speaker 2: the Giants were down Dexter, Lawrence, Rakeim Newton News Rochez,

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Speaker 3: I mean they were Bobby o'cake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the Saturday roster moves that you know

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Speaker 2: I think it was two defensive tackles to the active

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Speaker 3: So you had a.

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Speaker 2: Bunch of guys that frankly just had not played pretty

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Speaker 2: much at all this season. I mean Jordan Riley, I

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Speaker 2: guess was the most veteran, you know, experience wise of

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Speaker 2: And as you said, they shut down the Saints rushing attack.

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Speaker 2: You know Alvin Kamara Kendre Miller. They combined the two

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Speaker 3: That is an incredible rate.

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Speaker 2: If the Giants had been able to do that all season,

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Speaker 2: this team would be in a much better place.

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Speaker 3: Than where they are right now.

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Speaker 2: So and another person that deserves a bunch of kudos

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Speaker 2: is Micah McFadden, who really stepped up in the absence

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Speaker 2: at least solid all season, but this was like a

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Speaker 2: breakout game for Mike. I think he had five tackles

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Speaker 2: for loss. He played a humongous part in shutting down

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Speaker 2: the Saints rushing attack. And the Giants are gonna need Mike,

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Speaker 2: you know, the young defensive lineman. Everyone to come together

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Speaker 2: on the show last week how the Saints rink in

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Speaker 2: the top ten in just about every rushing metric. Well,

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Speaker 2: But then there's also Lamar Jackson, which you mentioned, Mattlin.

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Speaker 2: He is looking to run the ball this Sunday. So

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Speaker 2: the two of them combine form probably the most formidable

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Speaker 2: They're gonna bring that same intensity this Sunday against the Ravens.

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Speaker 4: Well, you just tied it up in a ball, Matt,

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Speaker 4: because we can all talk about how nice it was

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Speaker 4: you know, against the Saints. The Ravens aren't the Saints.

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Speaker 4: And as you say, one could be top ten, the

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Speaker 4: other one's top five. That combino, that combo is a

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Speaker 4: two headed monster, Henry and Lamar, and you know it

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Speaker 4: just we're talking about a much better football team here.

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, it's great. Let's hope that the Giants

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Speaker 4: can continue with the improvement that we saw, but we're

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Speaker 4: talking about a much different football team. We're talking about

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Speaker 4: a team that still needs it, and we're talking about

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Speaker 4: a team, as Madelin said tolde UP that they're coming

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Speaker 4: off a break, so on top of everything, they're well rested.

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Speaker 4: They're not battered and bruised as the Giants are. They're

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Speaker 1: You know, you got to hope if you're if you're

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Speaker 1: the Giants, you're like looking at the rest versus russ

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Speaker 1: narrative and hope that maybe maybe they gonment a little

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Speaker 1: bit rusty because you've got a guy like we've talked

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Speaker 1: about Derrick Henry and how well he can run the ball.

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Speaker 1: If you're a football fan, you are familiar with Derrick

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Speaker 1: Henry still farm but the way in which that he evades,

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Speaker 1: tackles and forces mistackles. Henry is forced seventy eight mistackles

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Speaker 1: this season alone, that's third most in the league. He's

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Speaker 1: this Giants team, in this Giants defense, that the last

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Speaker 1: few weeks, what have we been talking about tackling, finishing, tackling,

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Speaker 1: completing tackling as a point of emphasis, those two together

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Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily create a lot of optimism. So if you're

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Speaker 1: if you're the Giants' coaching staff for us, and you're

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Speaker 1: out here this week getting ready for Derrick Henry to

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Speaker 1: come through, and you're saying, how do we execute, how

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Speaker 1: you get to this man, you don't let him keep going.

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Speaker 4: You hit the nail right on a head battle And

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Speaker 4: you're talking about a team and listen, we're not beating

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Speaker 4: it down. It's been an ongoing problem. We talk to

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Speaker 4: problem with the tackling on the Giants. So you have

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Speaker 4: that situation coming up against Derrick Henry. As you just mentioned,

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Speaker 4: when you see other teams, when you see video and

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Speaker 4: game tape of Derrick Henry, defenders bounce off him as

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Speaker 4: if you're watching a video game. I mean, it is

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Speaker 4: really just like that. So everything they got to rally.

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Speaker 4: The Giant defenders have to rally to the ball. They

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Speaker 4: have to and you know you have to try and

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Speaker 4: wrap your arms around them. You're not just gonna hit him.

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Speaker 4: If you're just gonna give him your shoulder, it's not

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Speaker 4: good enough. Ain't gonna happen. You have to get them,

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Speaker 4: you have to wrap your arms around them. Easier said

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Speaker 4: than done, and you have to do it as a unit.

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Speaker 4: One on one's Dereck Henry wins the battle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the sort of crazy thing about Derreck Henry

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Speaker 4: Well, you just it's hard to optimize it against this team.

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Speaker 4: It's again, they will be tested in every facet of

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 2: And you know, just going back to Malik Neighbors and

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Speaker 2: To have one of those big breakout games that we

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Speaker 2: Because we spoke at length about how high powered this

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Speaker 3: On Sunday, right.

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Speaker 4: One segment. Just remember this though, Matt and everybody, what

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Speaker 4: it all has to fit perfectly for the Giants this weekend.

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Speaker 4: They almost have to come up with a perfect effort

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Speaker 1: And also too, as impressive as the stats are about

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Speaker 2: I mean Schmelk and I have spoken about this on BBK.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and they were even in it on Sunday

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Speaker 3: So it is doable.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, we got that first interception in

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Speaker 4: As I said, they need a perfect effort from all

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Speaker 1: That's the goal, all right, mistake free football. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how it all goes down those Sunday back at MetLife Stadium,

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Speaker 1: the penultimate home game of the season. Just two more

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