WEBVTT - Ep. 11 — Seeking older women (not in a weird way)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, Mandy's trying to take my hey hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hey all isn't that great though?

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<v Speaker 2>Look she's on board. I feel like we both own

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<v Speaker 2>co owned the hey hey hey, oh really, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>fat Albert does. Since technically we stole it, you stole

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<v Speaker 2>it from there? Why did steal it with fad Albert?

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<v Speaker 1>Since that Bower is a fictional character, it's true, he

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<v Speaker 1>merely he just influenced my hay hay head. No, you

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<v Speaker 1>know who influenced it, Dwayne from What's Happening?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, yeah, legit, thanks Dwayne. Hey guys, it's episode eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have some big news. This is a very

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<v Speaker 2>same week last week, Brown Ambition, our little podcast that could,

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<v Speaker 2>made it to the iTunes New and Noteworthy page, which

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<v Speaker 2>is major, major Maja like Victoria Beckham major. This the

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<v Speaker 2>that stop you've leaving a review.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes please do, because honestly, we were just like all

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<v Speaker 1>geeked up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were posting me and Mandy all over our personal

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<v Speaker 1>social media pages like wooo, we're famous now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exciting. It means more people can find us exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brad. The love so buzzworthy. The first thing

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to start with this week since it was Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see Viola Davis daughter? She dressed up?

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<v Speaker 1>How cute she dressed up? She said, Mommy, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be Elsa. I don't want to be batwoman

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever the other choices were.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be you. That's so sweet. It is

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<v Speaker 2>so sweet. And she was brained. She gave her like

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<v Speaker 2>a little fro like her basically her Emmy speech outfit.

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<v Speaker 2>So Minica, Supergirl, my Superman, my boo. His daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a nine year old daughter. She was a

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<v Speaker 1>dead prom queen. Okay, yeah it was, I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't she died. I'm not sure, but she

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<v Speaker 1>was wearing you know, the gray cast face and the

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<v Speaker 1>you know gray in her hair. And I think her

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<v Speaker 1>father loves zombie shows, so I think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>nod to.

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<v Speaker 2>His love of zombie show. Did you take her trick

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<v Speaker 2>or treating? No, but her mom did. She was super cute.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not even a candy girl. Oh great, so mom

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<v Speaker 2>got that duty. Yeah, like nice one. I literally I

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<v Speaker 2>stayed home. I did not leave the house. I ate

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<v Speaker 2>some candy. I showed up to write aid Sunday morning

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<v Speaker 2>in an emotional state, and you know how like all

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<v Speaker 2>the Halloween candies like so I was like, I will

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<v Speaker 2>take that one and that one and that one. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>When she was downstairs, I snuck upstairs and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>her bag on the bed, and I said, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Just gonna take all. I did all of it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I had all the chocolate. I feel that's like the mommy,

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<v Speaker 2>like the stepmommy share. I know, in your official step

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<v Speaker 2>mom but you know what I mean, Yes, no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean literally I ate all of the chocolate. She

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even notice the texts. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, you know, I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's not poison. I would rather take the poison

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<v Speaker 1>and ingested.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Some kids found needles in their snickers, like

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<v Speaker 2>that actually happened. I remember when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like people found razor blades. Someone stuck like

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<v Speaker 2>sewey needles into Snickers like mint fun sized candy bars

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<v Speaker 2>here in New York, at both places, I can't trust anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids are not going to go trigger to you. No.

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<v Speaker 2>I stayed my butt at home and did nothing. So

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<v Speaker 2>Happy Halloween all you, all you fools, and that black face,

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<v Speaker 2>we saw you, and that's why you got dragged. Our message.

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<v Speaker 2>Our message did not reach everyone in America. There were

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of black faces out there, yeah, but then

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of like I saw this really hilarious. So

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<v Speaker 2>apparently coming to America was like the thing for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 2>Beyonce and jay Z were coming to America. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>but there was this whole like I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they were a family, but it was like ten white people,

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<v Speaker 2>like they were all different cast members, no black face,

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<v Speaker 2>they just were the outfits. Go figure, and you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell everyone got it. Yes, here was.

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<v Speaker 1>Another little boy I was talking to you about earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>who dressed them as Malcolm Max, who was a little

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<v Speaker 1>white boy. Heah, the glasses, the suit, no black face,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just thought that was so c you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know who he was, Yes, he chose I would be

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<v Speaker 2>Malcolm Max. And I said, well, okay, look at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for him, good for those parents. Okay, what else

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<v Speaker 2>is buzzing? I saw this article and my favorite magazine ever,

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<v Speaker 2>the only magazine I actually subscribe to, New York Magazine, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and it talked about how we need more older women

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<v Speaker 2>in the office, yes, and in just in careers in general.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was thinking, like, as I was sitting there,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, let me think of older and I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 2>older is like past fifty, maybe past forty, although that's

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<v Speaker 2>not so old. Yeah, please don't. And there aren't any

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<v Speaker 2>in my where I work, Like in my area, No,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no older women. And I'm like trying to I'm

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<v Speaker 2>even trying to think back to my last couple of jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely when I was in my life. I worked at

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<v Speaker 2>a startup, my last job, and it was all twenty somethings,

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<v Speaker 2>like someone had a baby right when I quit, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh my god, the first baby. We're

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<v Speaker 2>all kind of growing up. And the point that the

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<v Speaker 2>writer makes is the fact that women, young women especially

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<v Speaker 2>need to see examples of what it looks like to

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<v Speaker 2>juggle a career and if you have a family, a family,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you're in your forties and fifties, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not to be sexist, but you know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>helpful and beneficial for a young person to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to look to an example of like, oh, she is

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<v Speaker 2>doing She's leaving at six pm every day, no matter what,

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<v Speaker 2>she's setting aside her priorities, and she's still getting shit

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<v Speaker 2>done around the office. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It was two I think with a teacher, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was really fortunate in that I've had older women around me.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a school teacher, so you know, it's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but women for the most part, and so had I

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<v Speaker 1>used to get such great advice from the older women,

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<v Speaker 1>and most of them had kids, so they would just

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<v Speaker 1>give me good advice about, you know, doing what I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do now before the kids came. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>one woman in particular, she changed the trajectory of my career.

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I don't think like nineteen or twenty. I

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<v Speaker 1>was working or I had an internship at this corporate office,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember trying to decide whether or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>just stay with them, even though I didn't like the job,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were offering me a lot of money after college,

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<v Speaker 1>like fifty thousand dollars a year, which is huge money

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<v Speaker 1>for a nineteen twenty year old. And then but I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to teach, so I was kind of juggling, like, oh, teach,

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<v Speaker 1>make thirty something, corporate place, make fifty something. And she

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<v Speaker 1>pulled me into the office and said, I heard they

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<v Speaker 1>made you an offer and I said yeah. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a black, older woman, and she said, if

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<v Speaker 1>you take that offer, you were be damn fool.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh why what was her reasoning because quite honestly, she said,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, take a look around you.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see how they treat because it really was

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<v Speaker 1>not the best place to work for personal color. I

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<v Speaker 1>will say that like everyone of color seems to be demoded,

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<v Speaker 1>there was really there just was nobody in like higher

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<v Speaker 1>positions for people of color.

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<v Speaker 2>It just was not like the best place. And I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that.

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<v Speaker 1>My energy, my spirit everything said this is not a

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<v Speaker 1>good place for you, Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was just thinking, Oh, the money's good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And so they have that perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>MM hm, and so she's like, I've been here long

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<v Speaker 1>enough to know, and I was just so glad I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to her. I instead went on to teach, and

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<v Speaker 1>then teaching led to me being the budgetista, led to

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<v Speaker 1>me to being on broad ambition.

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<v Speaker 2>So here we are. You know, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about mentors later in the show and how to how

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<v Speaker 2>to find a mentor the right way. Yes, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think this kind of ties into why for now in

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<v Speaker 2>the past, I don't know. It seems like in the

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<v Speaker 2>past few years, mentorship has become so huge, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like women especially are so hungry for mentors because

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have like like this article points out, like

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<v Speaker 2>an older stage wise woman in the office, and not

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<v Speaker 2>just like we need to have just one, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we need men like multiple, Like we need women who

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<v Speaker 2>maybe aren't, you know, work all the time and chose

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<v Speaker 2>not to have kids, women who have kids and work

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<v Speaker 2>some of the times, like different examples, women who when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm attorney leave and came back and some who didn't

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<v Speaker 2>come back and maybe they're working you know, remotely some

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<v Speaker 2>days of the week. We need very like diverse examples

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<v Speaker 2>of what it's like to be older as a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's true. I always have questions. I'm always like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>so what does this look like?

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<v Speaker 2>But what if I make this choice? So what if

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<v Speaker 2>you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Because even I mean now with growing my own business,

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurship and relationships, sometimes I just want like a romantic

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<v Speaker 1>relationship mentor like, well, how are you managing with your husband?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you travel a lot and I travel a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>So how does that look like? You know, how do

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<v Speaker 2>you know if I have a kid? What happens to that? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Are your kids mad that you're always on a plane?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's like I've got questions and no answers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so how do we fix this? How do you get

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<v Speaker 2>more women to stay around? I mean, part of the

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<v Speaker 2>problem is the fact that women, you know, tend to

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<v Speaker 2>not get promoted as readily as men. And then also

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<v Speaker 2>just realistically, a lot of women, not a lot of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the exact statistic, but you have to

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<v Speaker 2>factor in the fact that some women scale back as

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<v Speaker 2>they go through their career, and they you know, scale

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<v Speaker 2>back for legitimate reasons because they you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot if you choose to have kids to juggle that

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<v Speaker 2>and do a good job and then also kick ass

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<v Speaker 2>and be promoted, like maybe you don't want to be

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<v Speaker 2>the boss having to work twenty four to seven, be

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<v Speaker 2>on email all the time when you have kids at home,

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<v Speaker 2>like and no one can fault them for that. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why again, I feel like we need diverse examples

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<v Speaker 2>like women who choose that path and women who choose

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<v Speaker 2>other paths. But yeah, so we're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you really about how do you find someone to say yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, wait for our Oh wait what I say?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you like? That's going to be all like

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<v Speaker 2>our shit at the end, like, oh yeah, mentors, how

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<v Speaker 2>to find a good mentor yeah, how to get someone

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<v Speaker 2>to say yes? How do we get other other buzzwords?

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<v Speaker 2>These words for today? I have one more I want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. I love how it's like my job

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<v Speaker 2>to find the buzzword. My brown break is when Tiffany

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<v Speaker 2>shows up and has no ideas for what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about. It's been a hard week. Listen, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, Mandy is I'm gonna make for

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<v Speaker 2>every time you go on Instagram, you have to read

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<v Speaker 2>one article. You can read some headlines. Okay, that's my

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<v Speaker 2>chashamed her that to love you, I couldn't do the

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<v Speaker 2>show with that. I was just looking like, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>hope baby doesn't don't have any I have one more

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about. So something that was really

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<v Speaker 2>important to me as a person, because I wasn't like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel like I was a mature person. Not

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<v Speaker 2>that anyone is when they're eighteen, but when I went

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<v Speaker 2>to college, I didn't really have a mature view of

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<v Speaker 2>the world. I never knew gay people, I had never

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<v Speaker 2>met anyone really have a different religious faith. In me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just you know, I grew up in the South,

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<v Speaker 2>and even though I was open to new experiences and

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<v Speaker 2>so very i think at a young age pretty liberal,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't didn't have access to very diverse groups of people,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was hungry for it. So when I got

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<v Speaker 2>to college, everyone's talking about study abroad. You know, are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to go you know, oh, going to go

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<v Speaker 2>to con for the con festival with my you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with my journalism program. Are you going to go to

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<v Speaker 2>Spain for a semester a broad and you know some

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<v Speaker 2>people spent a whole year abroad. And I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely want to do that, and then I looked and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like thousands and thousands of dollars, and I shut

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<v Speaker 2>it down immediately. And that's what a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>do if you're from poor backgrounds, which you know, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of minorities fall into that category. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>this group called the Council on International Educational Exchange and

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to make it less of a barrier financially

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<v Speaker 2>for minorities to study abroad, which I think is so

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<v Speaker 2>important for me. The only reason I studied abroad when

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<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen is because I found like a very

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<v Speaker 2>obscure scholarship. It was like I think, and I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>an essay and I had to keep emailing them like

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<v Speaker 2>did you get my essay? Did you get my essay?

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<v Speaker 2>And they gave me two thousand dollars, which was just enough,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like down to the wire. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Argentina for the summer, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>this two thousand dollars scholarship which pretty much paid for

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<v Speaker 2>airfare and paid the fees for my homestay. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was the only reason I got to go to Argentina.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I didn't have I certainly couldn't save enough

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<v Speaker 2>working part time while in school my first year to

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<v Speaker 2>study abroad, and well.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good, because you're right, I wanted to study

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<v Speaker 1>your broad But I'm like, where, houseway, where's somebody coming from?

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<v Speaker 2>Kids take out student loans for this really? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I've talked and I talked to them. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I have this much done. I'm like, well, you say, tuition,

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<v Speaker 2>you know costs us much a year, but that yet

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<v Speaker 2>you have twice as much. So what's the story. You're like, Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I studied abroad for two years, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's stupid to take student loans out for study

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<v Speaker 2>abroad at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are programs that are kind of like trying

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<v Speaker 1>to Like one of my friends has this organization called

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<v Speaker 1>Traveling mad Her name is Madeline and she was born

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<v Speaker 1>and raised in Newark Brick City stand up, boo boo

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you familiar with Newark. It's similar to

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<v Speaker 1>like a Compton Detroit, that kind of thing. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know here in Madeline was a little brown girl from

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<v Speaker 1>Newark and she got her her master's doe I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in Paris, and that's where she went to school. And

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<v Speaker 1>so she because she knew she really wanted to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>live somewhere else and study abroad. And so now she

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<v Speaker 1>started traveling mad to take kids, especially from Newark who've

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<v Speaker 1>never been anywhere, never had had a passport to take

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<v Speaker 1>them to other countries for a few weeks. So she

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<v Speaker 1>just last year she successfully successfully took between ten and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty kids from Newark to London.

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<v Speaker 2>I did like an exchange program.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was just so great, and I'm just like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>so these high school kids got to go to London.

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<v Speaker 2>That's important. Yeah, And this is where I was going

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<v Speaker 2>with the whole stupid anecdote about my gay high school

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend and like how I wasn't a mature adult, cause

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it wasn't until I went to Argentina

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<v Speaker 2>when I was eighteen. When I when I lived in

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<v Speaker 2>like a kind of poor neighborhood, and I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I volunteered at a prison at one point. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>understand all the Spanish, so I didn't know I was

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<v Speaker 2>a prison. They were like alcoholics or something. And it

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<v Speaker 2>really like changed my worldview, I mean, and not just

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<v Speaker 2>like little things too. I didn't eat vegetables before I

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<v Speaker 2>moved to Argentina, like I didn't like tomatoes. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like onions, lettuce, like nothing. I like ate potatoes and corn. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went to Argentina and you have a

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<v Speaker 2>family preparing you a meal for you know, out of

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<v Speaker 2>their own good will and heart. You can't and you

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<v Speaker 2>can't not eat it. And then I just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my entire, my entire like view of food change and

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<v Speaker 2>now I eat everything, and it's like and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just it was a very crucial sort of like nothing

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<v Speaker 2>I could have learned in a classroom experience. But sure

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<v Speaker 2>travel is critical. Yeah, so yeah, And just so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this group again is called counsel and International Educational Exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>They are giving twenty million dollars in scholarships over the

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<v Speaker 2>next five years to people of color when you study

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<v Speaker 2>abroad and passwords. It is www dot c I EE

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<v Speaker 2>dot org c I E E E C E yay.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, when I just a real quick

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<v Speaker 2>note on traveling, maybe we should bring us up another time.

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<v Speaker 2>But like when I graduated college, I turned out a

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<v Speaker 2>job and I went to travel for six months. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I came back without having any job experience, the

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<v Speaker 2>number one thing people wanted to talk about was that

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<v Speaker 2>trip I went on, Like I put it on my

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<v Speaker 2>red that I've been traveling and like, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>was working kind of abroad. But it's just it's like

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of experience that job, like hiring managers want

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<v Speaker 2>you want to see in someone and like I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see Yeah. So I feel like it helped me that.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, blawn break, brown break, bbe do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go first? Yes? Did you come with the brown break?

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<v Speaker 1>At least? So my brown break is actually kind of serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all know to me to meet it. Y'all know me

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<v Speaker 1>to be a little bit silly, just a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but honestly, this is a serious one. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take a brown break from victim shaming. So victim shaming

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<v Speaker 1>is basically when something happens to someone and instead of saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>person who attacked said victim, we are instead of going

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<v Speaker 1>to blame the victim and said, well, what could you

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<v Speaker 1>have done differently not to be raked? Or what could

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<v Speaker 1>you have done differently not to be persecuted, or what

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<v Speaker 1>could you have done differently not to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>abused or just like attacked. It just seems ridiculous, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you think here, so well, that just seems crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But we do it over and over. Like the young

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<v Speaker 2>woman who we all saw.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure if you have not seen it, then you

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<v Speaker 1>are not on social media, or don't watch the news,

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<v Speaker 1>or just don't have TV or live in nineteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>that the young girl who was in middle school, that

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<v Speaker 1>middle school, elementary school, No, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was middle school, it was middle school. He was fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>she was fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, she was in her classroom and I guess she

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't participating. The teacher called a security person and he

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<v Speaker 1>came to the classroom and you see him, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>speak to her and then you see him like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of put her in the headlock and then flip her

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<v Speaker 1>chair over and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Very disturbing, Yeah, throw her.

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<v Speaker 1>Across the room and then like drag her and then

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<v Speaker 1>you see, I guess there's the students describe that he's

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<v Speaker 1>now putting her hands behind her back like this is

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<v Speaker 1>like literally the girls like hmm, maybe five six, like

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and ten pounds, and this guy's a powerlifter,

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<v Speaker 1>like to something three hundred pounds huge, and so many people,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, you know, there's outrage against this huge man

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<v Speaker 1>attacking this girl But what really surprised me and disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>me were so many people were like, well, these kids today,

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<v Speaker 1>they got to learn to respect folks, these kids today,

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 1>I Like, if you were physically here, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even get violent, I just would would like to just

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<v Speaker 1>mush you in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Mushy right, like you know, like the old school mush

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<v Speaker 1>like you do your little sister when they're all in

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<v Speaker 1>your business, Like just mush you in the face. Because

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<v Speaker 1>how foolish do you sound to say that somehow a

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen year old is big enough or intimidating enough to

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<v Speaker 1>require a man that is nearly three hundred pounds and

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<v Speaker 1>power lifts six hundred pounds, that it would require him

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<v Speaker 1>to throw her cross the room, flip her desk over,

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<v Speaker 1>and just treat her like a rag doll. And it

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<v Speaker 1>just the fact that the other students didn't seem even

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<v Speaker 1>as shocked, because this is some person who was known

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<v Speaker 1>for his violence against the students. And then to say, somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>these kids today need to be respectful. Not that it

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<v Speaker 1>should matter, but that girl apparently has lost both her

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother and her mother in the last year and she

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<v Speaker 1>was not participating because she is in a state of

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<v Speaker 1>deep depression, as we all would be, and she's in

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<v Speaker 1>a foster home. Not that that should matter, but cause

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<v Speaker 1>I was a teacher, quite honestly for ten years, I've

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<v Speaker 1>had kids spit literally in my face, like hawk spit,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go a t in my fi in my face.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually had a child to use his head against

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<v Speaker 1>me as a weapon. They used to teach us this

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<v Speaker 1>hold when like a little one was like really like

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<v Speaker 1>like about to hurt himself, that you would basically give

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<v Speaker 1>them a beer hook from behind and just kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of subdue them.

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<v Speaker 1>He would wait until he was calm and trick me,

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<v Speaker 1>and then this little boy would use his head and

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<v Speaker 1>throw his head back into my chin. And one time

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<v Speaker 1>I nearly blacked out and still didn't throw him. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it is possible to deal with children and know

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes kids come with their issues and not abuse them.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just so crazy to me that someone would

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<v Speaker 1>look at that and say, well, what did she do?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what she did. She's not light common. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>victim shaming, I mean victim blaming. It's I mean this,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially when it comes to young black. Mm hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>we're brown kids. And I remember that the pool party

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas where those kids were like you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>cops were called for some reason or another, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there was all there was this one young woman she

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<v Speaker 2>was about the same age as this girl too, about fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and she you know, was talking back to the cop

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<v Speaker 2>and then he dragged her and put her on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground and like was being forceful with her. And then

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<v Speaker 2>there were I mean, I think in that situation like

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't ever The question is when you when people

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<v Speaker 2>are afraid of being blamed for what they've done, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>the question is like would they ever report mistreatment? Like

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<v Speaker 2>if there were if these kids in this classroom or

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<v Speaker 2>at us pole party hadn't taken cell phone videos and

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<v Speaker 2>had this evidence, would these girls feel you know, or

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<v Speaker 2>would people believe them when they spoke up for them? Likely?

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<v Speaker 1>Not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the sad part. It's not that the stuff is

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<v Speaker 2>happening more frequently, these attacks on brown people in general,

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<v Speaker 2>black people, young people, old, But the fact that we

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<v Speaker 2>have evidence now and people are taking it, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to take it seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't people say that video you know he's not and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so crazy and ridiculous when they said, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he has a African American girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, is the flying.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw, I met, I saw the best comment. Someone said,

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<v Speaker 1>if having sex with a woman of color cured you

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<v Speaker 1>of your racism, then Thomas Jefferson would have would have

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<v Speaker 1>freed the slaves.

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<v Speaker 2>So what does that even mean?

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<v Speaker 1>He's having sex with a black woman that makes him

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<v Speaker 1>not It means nothing, because honestly, let's be real, like

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knows Terry Crews, right, Terry Crews is like this

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<v Speaker 1>huge black guy who he like, what's some movies that

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<v Speaker 1>he's in?

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody he hates Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>He'sn't even Brooklyn nine nine I think, so he's also

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<v Speaker 1>the father and everybody hates Chris.

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<v Speaker 2>He's huge, he's muscular. You must watch his lip sync

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<v Speaker 2>battle performance Vanessa Vanessa, what's her face? A thousand miles?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yes, he is hilarious. So Terry K's huge

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<v Speaker 2>black dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine Terry Crews throwing Dakota Fanning like the little girl

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<v Speaker 1>from right, or just anybody tailor not even Taylor Swift,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm thinking of like one of these little like

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<v Speaker 1>a good breeze would throw Taylor Swift right, like Ariana

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<v Speaker 1>Grande all the little girl fall with love area Gronde right.

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<v Speaker 2>Just imagine him throwing her.

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<v Speaker 1>They would be up they would he would be in

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<v Speaker 1>jail right now because it would be so much upward.

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<v Speaker 2>How dare he?

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<v Speaker 1>So don't tell me it's not about race, because if

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<v Speaker 1>the shoe was on the other foot, there would be

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<v Speaker 1>this rage of how dare someone do this to this girl?

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<v Speaker 1>But instead it's you know, what does she do to

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<v Speaker 1>deserve it? She must have sassed him, Like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so sick of it.

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<v Speaker 2>There And you know what black women especially are throughout history.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's not get too deep into it, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's just be real, and black women are more likely

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<v Speaker 2>to be abused than other women in general. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean by by police, by the financial system, by pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much every establishment in the country. I was just and

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of ties into it too. There was this

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<v Speaker 2>and especially about the fact that the black female body

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<v Speaker 2>has been abused in so many different ways, over sexualized,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, physically abused for so long without any repercussions

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<v Speaker 2>for those who have been doing it. There was this

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<v Speaker 2>cop that who's just starting the trial now, although it

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<v Speaker 2>happened a year ago, he was found to have sexually

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<v Speaker 2>assaulted eight black women who lived in this all this

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<v Speaker 2>one neighborhood. I forget, I forget exactly where it was.

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<v Speaker 2>But the only reason he was caught, he was he

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<v Speaker 2>was he was patrolling a low income kind of area

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<v Speaker 2>and the only reason he got caught was because a

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<v Speaker 2>woman who was returning from like a book club or something,

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<v Speaker 2>or a cooking club with some of her friends, who

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<v Speaker 2>was middle class and educated, and you know, he stopped

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<v Speaker 2>her and she didn't unlike the other women he'd been

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<v Speaker 2>stopping who had like prior arrests, drug convictions, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that he could hold over their head. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have any of that. So she called the cops

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<v Speaker 2>on him. And that's the only reason because she felt

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<v Speaker 2>she felt empowered enough to speak up. And so often

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<v Speaker 2>women of color don't feel that empowered. And it's sad

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<v Speaker 2>because it was going How long could that have gone on?

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly whatever? People?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you choose, you know, he was so careful to

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<v Speaker 1>choose women that he knew that felt powerless.

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<v Speaker 2>Then it's like his word and oh my god, you

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<v Speaker 2>read the article. BuzzFeed did a really, really good in

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<v Speaker 2>depth article on it. At the very end, they put

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<v Speaker 2>in this quote from an attorney who's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these are people who have drug convictions and prostitution, and

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<v Speaker 2>like you're going to believe them over him. That's literally

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<v Speaker 2>what he was saying. And that's what drives me nuts

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<v Speaker 2>because they're basically like he can get away with it

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<v Speaker 2>because he's choosing people who, you know, people will never

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<v Speaker 2>believe their word against me an upstanding white man's word. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just so crazy. It's just I'm just so sign.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, ever since, I mean just even recently,

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<v Speaker 1>ever since, just like talking about the over sexualization of

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<v Speaker 1>black women in their bodies. I mean, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>speak professionally and there I've been in locations where someone

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<v Speaker 1>has said to me, Wow, Timmy, you're behind it's so big.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how how was that appropriate conversation? I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to come up here and you've hired me to come speak,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what does that even mean? Or just like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always like I always think to myself like, oh, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing i can do. I'm just built a certain way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm always so self conscious about covering up, covering up.

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<v Speaker 2>This kind of ties into my brown break. Okay, way, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about and Tiffy and I talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it too, like how do you dress for success

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<v Speaker 2>when you're a woman of color and you have assets

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<v Speaker 2>and a body type that you know clothes don't fit you.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't fit you like everyone else. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>wear something tight, you can be seen as being sexy

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<v Speaker 2>when you're just trying to look good for work. So

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<v Speaker 2>my brown break this week is actually dress codes. This

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<v Speaker 2>is at like the high school, middle school, elementary school level.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this posts. It's kind of going viral. This

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<v Speaker 2>young girl, she's white from the school I think in Texas. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Texas again, right, I'll check on that, but I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>like one more reason to hate Texas. Sorry, Texans, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sorry. So this girl she posts this outfit she's

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<v Speaker 2>wearing like a three quarter length shirt covered up to

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<v Speaker 2>the collar. It's not even a cute outfit. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, yeah, it's not. And like a black

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<v Speaker 2>and white striped shirt completely covered up, baggy too, and

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<v Speaker 2>then like a it would be on a normal average

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<v Speaker 2>height girl, a knee link khaki skirt, and on her

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<v Speaker 2>because she's very tall, it comes up a couple inches

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<v Speaker 2>above her knee. Apparently she was walking down the hallway

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<v Speaker 2>in an administrator or just another teacher stops her and

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<v Speaker 2>makes her basically tells her to go home and change.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she ended up getting suspended too. And this

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<v Speaker 2>girl wrote like a really badass Facebook post, she said, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I am a woman. I'm a woman with thighs, a butt,

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<v Speaker 2>and a brain. I am bigger than this high school

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<v Speaker 2>is called Beaufort High School. All of us are. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>instead of wearing about my skirt, the school should take

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<v Speaker 2>notice of its incompetent employees and sexist leaders. Wow. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure they're gonna love her go tomorrow, right. But I

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<v Speaker 2>can't help but think of the fact that so dress

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<v Speaker 2>codes are a hot, like a very like a hot

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<v Speaker 2>debated topic. I feel like in the school, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a parent or you're you know, you study education anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>because research has shown that when you're talking about enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>of dress codes, who do you think it's punished more girls,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, but like white girls are brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Girls, I'm assuming brown girls definitely all that base, all

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<v Speaker 1>that base because there's just certain things it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>your body.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I can't help the fact that I have.

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<v Speaker 1>A behind, Like I've literally been like, all right, if

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<v Speaker 1>I get a size fourteen, which is ginormous, I can

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<v Speaker 1>cover my butt, but then it doesn't fit anyplace else.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I wear my size, it's like, well sheesh,

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<v Speaker 1>look at that behind, and you're just like, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>am I supposed to do?

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<v Speaker 2>And there's no like, there's no like nationwide data on

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<v Speaker 2>how people are punished, how young people are punished. But

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<v Speaker 2>there's one example in North Carolina. For two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>nine academic year, black students in North Carolina were suspended

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<v Speaker 2>at rates significantly higher than white students, eight times higher

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<v Speaker 2>for self and you six times higher than white kids

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<v Speaker 2>for dress code violations. I think this is for both

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<v Speaker 2>men and or girls and boys. But I just feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the fact that women, black women are just already

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<v Speaker 2>seen as like hyper sexual creatures, like oh, when a

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<v Speaker 2>young girl starts developing, it's like her breasts are dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>A brown girl's breast are dangerous. And you know you're Latina,

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<v Speaker 2>you're black, you have hips and thighs, like that's just

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<v Speaker 2>part of the package, you know, for not everybody, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>but for a lot of you. And it's hard being

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<v Speaker 2>young when you have these like restrictive dress codes telling

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<v Speaker 2>you what to wear. So I feels you and for

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<v Speaker 2>people trying to dress for work, I don't know. It

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<v Speaker 2>takes a while. How old am I twenty eight and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still trying to figure out, Like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>the other day I was walking, I was wearing a

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<v Speaker 2>skirt and my boyfriend happened he would just like happened to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the same train. Who's behind me? And I

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<v Speaker 2>get a call from him. He's like, babe, I can

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<v Speaker 2>see your underwear because my skirt was high in the

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<v Speaker 2>back and I didn't realize and they had been hiked

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<v Speaker 2>up from when I was sitting down. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, because it looked right in the front.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I remember the first time I realized I had

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<v Speaker 1>a But I had to be like I used to

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<v Speaker 1>play on the tennis team, so here I was a

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<v Speaker 1>little chocolate chip amongst all this vanilla, and I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. We had a good time. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, like I was wearing my tennis skirt. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>tennis skirts are short, but you wear these little like

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<v Speaker 1>tennis shorts underneath them, and like the girls on the

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<v Speaker 1>tennis team were like Tiffany like she.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like pulling down the skirt from the back.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, your skirt is like up in the back,

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<v Speaker 1>and it took her a minute to realize.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your bud. Oh my god. Oh yeah before would

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<v Speaker 2>you say? I said, you told that story before?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I was just like that was when I

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<v Speaker 1>first realized, like I'm built different.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the schools in South Carolina. Sorry, Texas, you off

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<v Speaker 2>the hook for now, I'm sure. Well, let me stop.

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<v Speaker 2>The Carolinas are good. And that wasn't that the story

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<v Speaker 2>of the girl who was thrown by the officer wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>I South Carolina? I resa mm hmmm. So we're taking

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<v Speaker 2>a break from y'all. We need to break from dress

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<v Speaker 2>codes maybe South Carolina in total, and also victim shaming. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know who you are. What's support each other?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, okay, we're gonna harmonize.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll do some right now, I'll do whatever I

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<v Speaker 2>just did.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun too, ready to go exactly what big sap M?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not? I'm bored. We're gonna do this now. I

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<v Speaker 2>like karaoke. I know my limitations, I know your weaknesses. Me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going for I'm microphone check want to I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>try not to get angry about these tips. This topic,

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<v Speaker 2>which is how to find a mentor, how to secure

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<v Speaker 2>a mentor, it sounds like catching a fish or like

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<v Speaker 2>trying to hunt something down because some and I'm especially

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about girls now having like being in a place

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<v Speaker 2>now where people are asking me for advice, and like

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<v Speaker 2>they come up to you with this glint in their

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<v Speaker 2>eye like I want to collect you, yes, or I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to make me the weirdest career pick your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like picking sounds terrible. So mentors are important, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when we're just talking about how there's not enough older women,

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<v Speaker 2>like established career women around the office. Maybe so you

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<v Speaker 2>need to reach out to other people like you need

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>for us like a Linnet Kalifani cop Yeah, Gale Harry Mason, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I just met.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the author of like the Girl, Get Your Credit Straight, Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Get Your Money Write Books. She's totally dope, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first first women of color to actually talk to

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<v Speaker 1>other women of color about money and write a book

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<v Speaker 1>about it and be a bestseller.

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<v Speaker 2>So the problem is there's not enough of these people

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<v Speaker 2>to go around, and everyone wants and needs and should

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<v Speaker 2>be looking for someone to mentor quote unquote them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about for me, like first to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the definition of mentorship. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>you should. I feel like you should adjust your expectations

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<v Speaker 2>before you look for a mentor, especially now everyone is

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<v Speaker 2>so busy. I feel like an email once a month

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<v Speaker 2>is a lot, I mean, and I feel like when

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<v Speaker 2>you're asking for advice, you should always keep that in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on your relationship with someone too. If it's

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<v Speaker 2>someone that you work with every day, that's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit easier. Obviously you'll see them, but you need to

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<v Speaker 2>look at who the person you're talking to and who

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to reach. Look at who they are, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can pretty much get a good idea of how

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<v Speaker 2>busy they may be. And then Taylor, how often you're

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<v Speaker 2>bombarding them with questions around that?

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<v Speaker 1>And you know Tim Ferriss of four Week, the four

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<v Speaker 1>Hour work Week fame, right, So she has this actually

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<v Speaker 1>a really great post about how he got Jack Canfield,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who does the chicken soup for the Soul series,

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<v Speaker 1>how he got him to be a mentor. They talk

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<v Speaker 1>once a year, once a year, but Jack gives him

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<v Speaker 1>his entire life, and he said what he did was

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.000
<v Speaker 1>he met Jack Canfield. Jack Campill was like, Oh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have any questions whatever, make sure you call me,

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<v Speaker 1>email me. And you know, everybody says that they don't

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 1>need it, that's a lie. They don't need him. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he Tim Ferris said it took him like a

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<v Speaker 1>year or six months something like that to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect question to ask Jack, because he knew that

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<v Speaker 1>he'd if he asked him a question that he could

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<v Speaker 1>google or get the answer from from someone else, then

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<v Speaker 1>that would be like his last time to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like connect with him. So he said it took him

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<v Speaker 1>months on months on months to find a question that

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<v Speaker 1>only mister Canfield himself could answer. So WANTI would show

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<v Speaker 1>that that Tim had done the research too, that he

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<v Speaker 1>respected his time, and three that he was insightful and

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<v Speaker 1>that he could be poured into.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he came up with this question.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack loved it, answered him when above and beyond, And

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<v Speaker 1>the next time they spoke was like a year later.

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<v Speaker 2>But you want to know the question. I know, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you get lesson though that's true, you should really think. Yes,

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like when you. I hate feeling out

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 2>job applications. We have to write a new When you

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 2>have to write a new like missions, what's it called

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 2>cover letter each time, and you really have to tailor

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<v Speaker 2>it to the job that you want into the specific Yeah,

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>try and figure out exactly who you're talking to. Yeah,

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 2>that's because that obviously it shows that you really take

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<v Speaker 2>time out here.

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>Because if you reach out like so, I get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of young girls that reach out to me and

0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>they're like, hey, miss Bunjaniza, I'd love, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you this question. The young girls, I don't mind

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<v Speaker 1>because y'all don't know no better. So you're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighteen whatever. But then when I get someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit older, like once you pass your mid

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenties, I'm like, okay, I want you to be

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>just a little bit more mindful.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you ask me a.

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<v Speaker 1>Question that it's like if obvious a quick surveillance of

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<v Speaker 1>my website that I don't do, or a question that

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<v Speaker 1>literally it is something that you could google, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like like you're not even willing to put the effort in.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you want me to pour into you, so

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<v Speaker 2>you might ask me.

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>A question like, Hey, how much do speakers get paid?

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<v Speaker 2>Or something like that. I'm like, that's a quick google.

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<v Speaker 1>Now if you were to say, Hey, Tiffany, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really going into I want to start teaching financial

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<v Speaker 1>education and I live in Detroit. I see that you

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<v Speaker 1>started off with, you know, nonprofits. Did you feel that

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<v Speaker 1>that was the best way to begin something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have my attention. Now, I'm like, Okay, I

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>can give you a specific answer because you might not

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>get because you know, you might be number I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I get like twenty or thirty people a day

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 1>asking me, you know, a question, So you can't keep

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>coming back to the well, I can't allow for that.

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you wasted your question on something you can google, Well,

0:33:51.680 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>they want a.

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Question, y'all better be careful with one question.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's not what it is, Just that, like when

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<v Speaker 1>people show thoughtfulness, it makes me want to give more.

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 2>I've never really been one to like look for a mentor.

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>I've asked people for advice, but I don't even put

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<v Speaker 2>that pressure on someone in my own head to think

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>they're my mentor they're gonna help me. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of different people I've asked advice not just women,

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 2>but men too, and I talked about that before. It's

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>important to have male mentors. You want to know what

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 2>they're making, so as you know almost more than maybe

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:22.319
<v Speaker 2>a woman, or at least know what a man and

0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 2>a woman are making, so you can compare and see

0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>if something's going on there you should pay attention to.

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.359
<v Speaker 2>I think it's important to look for mentors who are

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 2>not always just like you. Yeah, agreed, maybe not, you know,

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>if you're obviously and then this is just a thing

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 2>like when you're brown and you see the other brown

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 2>person in the office, maybe you gravitate toward them for

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 2>a certain way. But I don't think that you should

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>limit yourself in that way either. And don't look only

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 2>for you know, if you're Latino, only look for Latina

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 2>woman mentor, or only look for a black mentor if

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you're black, Like I think that's important, but you need

0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:53.120
<v Speaker 2>other perspectives too, And just know that.

0:34:53.160 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Being a mentor mentee it's a give it like a

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.840
<v Speaker 1>give and take, meaning that what do you bring to

0:34:57.920 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the table, So you.

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 2>Should have accomplished thing like whatever question you're asking. Let's say,

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 2>and I just had someone come to me actually for

0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 2>a while, and I talked to her for a long

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 2>time because I ramble, but she wanted to know about

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 2>she had a question about she she wanted to get promoted,

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:13.880
<v Speaker 2>but she didn't feel like it was going to be happening.

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, you know, have you been

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 2>keeping track of what you've been doing the past year?

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you have an exact idea of what job you want?

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>She's working for a startup, so the job she get

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 2>promoted you doesn't really exist yet, and she's like, yeah, no,

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I've only thought about it. I'm like, well, you have

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 2>to have some sort of a plan before. How can

0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I help you? Like, you know, I feel like the

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 2>questions shouldn't have been like how do I get promoted?

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 2>It should have been like, how do I figure out

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 2>what's the job that I want to do that I

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>can pitch to them? Or how do I what's the

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<v Speaker 2>right way to bring up all the things I've done

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 2>in the past year when I'm building my keys for promotion,

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>And that would have been a much more like efficient

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 2>use of time.

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>And also too, it's like do the work like I

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>love you, like if you're asking me like how do

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>I take the first step, I'm like, oh boy, you're not.

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.760
<v Speaker 1>You have to do the work, like, do the first

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>five to ten steps on your and when you literally

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>have no other steps to take, that's when you're like, Okay,

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>now I can ask because then when you come to me,

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:08.120
<v Speaker 1>or you come to Mandy, you come to somebody that

0:36:08.160 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>you have a question, you can say, look at all

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>the work that I've done. I'm fully invested in this

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:15.719
<v Speaker 1>new project or whatever it is I'm trying to do.

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know where to go next. Now that's an.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Easy direct versus like how do you start a business?

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 2>What that? Oh my god? You know what? The biggest

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 2>question I get now is how do you start a podcast?

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 2>It's just like I'm like, well, I'm you know, I

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 2>just went to a conference and I signed up to

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 2>tell people how to start a podcast. So I blame

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 2>myself for this. And now I'm like, I'm I and

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:39.319
<v Speaker 2>if anyone's listening from that conference, I'm preparing that tip

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 2>sheet as we speak, I'm going to do it. It's

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:44.919
<v Speaker 2>only been three weeks. I'm late, I know, but yeah,

0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 2>it's such a broad question. And the way that I

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 2>found out was www dot Google dot com. You know,

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 2>did you know Google is free? What? Maybe even charge

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>you what for free? There's no libraries or you do

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>be a library card exactly. You can do Google on

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 2>the train, on the plane. Words are hard, I know,

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 2>reading is difficult even I'm like reading these A lot

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:09.879
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff I've done with this is I don't

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 2>read directions in general. So doing this podcast and learning

0:37:12.320 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 2>how to edit and learning what equipment I needed, I

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 2>just skimmed and I was just like, I'll just buy

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 2>this thing and hope it's right. So I did like

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.800
<v Speaker 2>that groundwork myself, and the kind of questions I'm asking,

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Like we are part of this really seecer like financial

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 2>kind of group, and I never want to ask a

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 2>dumb question in that group. I want to ask a

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 2>very specific question. People can answer questions, answer, you know,

0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and answer in a way that'll make them look smart.

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 2>People like you to ask questions that only they could

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 2>know that makes them look good, you know. And so

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I waited to have really specific questions about the inner

0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 2>workings of a podcast, like specific things like you know,

0:37:45.480 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 2>did you use this platform to edit?

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Not?

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 2>How do you edit? Yeah, like what did you think

0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 2>of this certain platform? What do you think of this

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 2>certain show. If you're doing some of the work, Oh yeah, hella.

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 2>And and I feel like with any big thing like that,

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 2>you should always do the work yourself. I mean, no

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 2>one's gonna walk you through, no one has time to

0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 2>watch every step, no one has time. It's just and

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:06.120
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't feel you shouldn't get let down when people

0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 2>aren't sitting down with you for two hours to tell.

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>You how, because yeah, and I get it, because I mean,

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, Manda, you've done that before. Because I know

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I've made the mistake of like asking for too much,

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 1>you know when I first started out, and I look

0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.720
<v Speaker 1>back at that and I'm like, Okay, so now I don't,

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:20.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, I.

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Really do the work.

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:24.479
<v Speaker 1>I google YouTube by, I do as much as I can,

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:25.919
<v Speaker 1>and then when I'm at the end of my rope

0:38:25.920 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>and then I'm like, okay, I just don't get it.

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Then I'll reach out and then usually it's just a

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:30.760
<v Speaker 1>quick redirect then I'm back to work again.

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's some tips about how you can get yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a mentor. We have not mentioned any of our social

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<v Speaker 1>media platforms.

0:38:37.640 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>We're doing terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, if you have a brown break, if you

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>have some tips that you like for us to go over.

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 2>You can tweet it at the BA podcasts at Twitter

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 2>or email us Brown. You guys have been emailing a

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>lot actually Brown Ambition Podcasts at gmail dot com. We

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 2>actually just love if you have any questions, like if

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 2>you have a question that you want answered on the air,

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.440
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote, we'd love to get those from you. Yeah,

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 2>you could also hit us on Facebook, Brown Ambition.

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.919
<v Speaker 1>So our wins were wrapping up with some wins wins well,

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>of course, our huge win is being on New and Normal.

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<v Speaker 2>New and Noteworthy, and yes, please leave reviews. M h.

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 2>We sound a little greedy, but we want we love it,

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>we need it, we need it real quick. I want

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<v Speaker 2>well I can, I can give myself a win representing

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<v Speaker 2>Brown Ambition. I was interviewed on Stacking Benjamin's podcast, Yeah

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Past Week, which is a huge podcast. Yeah super so,

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>Hi Joe Money, thanks for having us on, and you

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>guys should definitely check out his podcast, you know after

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 2>you download ours. Of course, it's called Stacking Benjamin's and

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 2>he does a lot of like great personal finance investing

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 2>advice and sometimes he has great guests on including yours

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:56.480
<v Speaker 2>truly trying to think what are the wins. We had

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<v Speaker 2>a win, a submission from a reader, which we love. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this reader's name is Tip, I think so. Yeah. She

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<v Speaker 2>called out a young woman, a youth entrepreneur from New Jersey,

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:09.759
<v Speaker 2>I think Jersey Jersey. Her name is Essence Moore as

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<v Speaker 2>a teenager. She as a teen. I don't know exactly

0:40:12.080 --> 0:40:14.319
<v Speaker 2>how old she is. How old is she? She's really young.

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>She's like young teen, not like eighteen, like oh man, yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 2>So she owns she owns a company called Essence Couture

0:40:21.800 --> 0:40:25.399
<v Speaker 2>and Essence Couture University and Essence Couture Publishing. What what

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 2>it's she woman? Wait? She released a book called sixth

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Grade Middle School Chronicles. Wow this I thought she owned

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 2>a spa. She does. It's oh my god. She also

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>owns a spot. I didn't even know about the other stuff.

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 2>And on that. She's a teen mogul. Okay, no wonder

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.840
<v Speaker 2>she's wait, she's only sixteen years old. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So she owns a spa in Paseic, New Jersey. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's Essence Couture Spam Boutique, seventy one Market Street, Pasaic,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. So she started it for teens and tweens.

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<v Speaker 1>How dope is that? Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even handle her about me? Hold on it,

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<v Speaker 2>says teen preneur, teen preneur, children, tweens and teens, stylist,

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<v Speaker 2>fashion designer, actress, motivational speaker, and author Essence More has

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<v Speaker 2>been in various fashion shows, passions and karate turning. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this is so cute, Essence, this is adorable. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>need you, Essence though, to pick a lane. No, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I feel like this was how I was

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in college. I was literally in every

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<v Speaker 2>single extra. She's still trying to figure it out. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think this is exciting, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>this is like the part when you're when the time

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<v Speaker 2>in your life when you're so young and energetic, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna try every single thing and I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>just be pinned down to one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think this is just so great because honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was fourteen, I was still trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out which hairstyle works best for my face.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was fourteen, I was trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>why my hair would not do what Lizzie macguires did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I gave up on when I was ten. I was

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<v Speaker 2>still trying to have white girl hair. When I was Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even a baby, bro, you did, Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know I was a hot mess. I had the

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<v Speaker 2>most listened I know I'm segueing but like or going

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<v Speaker 2>off topic, but I had the most like straight to

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<v Speaker 2>my heart conversation in the bathroom last week with another

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<v Speaker 2>mixed girl in my office who I've seen around but

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<v Speaker 2>i'd never like, I don't know her story. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know she's like black and white or whatever, but she's

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<v Speaker 2>we're both black and white, both had white mothers, both

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<v Speaker 2>raised a majority of time by the white mothers. And

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<v Speaker 2>she and I just had this like come to Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>moek with each other. We just like later we were

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<v Speaker 2>like your mom too, your mom took you to the

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<v Speaker 2>mall and got the one black salon to do your

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<v Speaker 2>hair when you're young. And we're like, I'm like, i've

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<v Speaker 2>never seen my hair natural. I don't know what my

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<v Speaker 2>whole real hair looks like. And she's like me either,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's, you know, going through the whole transition thing

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm transitioning and I was giving tips and she

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<v Speaker 2>was giving me tips. It was like you found your

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<v Speaker 2>sister from another mixer and it was nice to relate. Sorry, essence, more,

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<v Speaker 2>I just hijacked your wind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but Essence, you are a winner, chicken dinner overachiever.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep going. Yes, I think that she seemed to be

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<v Speaker 2>my mentor, right, essence? Can you teach me your ways?

0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 2>See how that sounds? That's how y'all sound? Tea? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>I had one? Well when oh two? Mara just kidding,

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<v Speaker 2>I have all the ideas. Addition, I'm not really like

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<v Speaker 2>mad I'm not. I love Ti so real quick. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>The Wiz is coming out the live Broadway show. They're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. They're doing like a mini documentary on today's show,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, going behind the scenes like the the Dorothy

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<v Speaker 2>for The Whiz Live. It's a girl called Shaw niece Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>She's from New Jersey and the Jersey Girl and she's

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<v Speaker 2>like so cute and so sweet. Have been following her

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<v Speaker 2>on Instagram. It's just cute to see her, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's surrounded by all these really famous like the who's

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Who of Black entertainment. Who's else said it like Alfred Woodard,

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Hudson. Yeah, she's Nigerian. Whoo Woo Niga girls and

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<v Speaker 2>she's ebo. Yeah bo. That's just a huge brown wind

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<v Speaker 2>when you pay attention to that. I think it's coming

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<v Speaker 2>out early December or late November. That's like, that's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be fun. Yes, And then I you know, I told

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<v Speaker 2>you last week, I'm obsessed with Jane the Virgin. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent all weekend catching up and it's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to watch it when next time you get

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<v Speaker 2>sick or something like that, just watch. So, Gina Rodriguez

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<v Speaker 2>is the main character, and she has been getting flack

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<v Speaker 2>because people say she's not Latina enough to play Latina

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<v Speaker 2>personality or Latina character. Why she's half Latino, she's not.

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<v Speaker 2>She's full Puerto Rican. The thing is, she doesn't speak

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent fluent Spanish and people are calling her

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<v Speaker 2>out for it. And here's the thing about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I can really I can understand because my boyfriend is Dominican,

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<v Speaker 2>but he is not one hundred percent fluent. How part

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<v Speaker 2>of the reason is because when you're in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of Latino households, the parents want their kids to speak English.

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<v Speaker 2>And in my boyfriend's case, he was also like taking

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<v Speaker 2>care of the household, like paying the bills for them.

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<v Speaker 2>He would be calling Time Warner to argue what the

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<v Speaker 2>he will bill, and he had to speak English. And

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<v Speaker 2>you speak to your parents in English and they speak

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 2>back to you in Spanish. This is a modern day

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<v Speaker 2>Latino family. And this is what Gina kind of calls

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<v Speaker 2>out in this amazing interview with Huffington Post. She basically says, like,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't get more Latina than I am. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I am my own version of Latina. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there's any one Latina story which is so true. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no one version, there's no like, there's no like scale

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<v Speaker 2>of how Latino are you? And I thought I was

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<v Speaker 2>a win because she said it so eloquently. At the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, it's crazy to me that we have to

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<v Speaker 2>still tell people, explain to people that there's different ways

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<v Speaker 2>of brown and different stories and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But you leftin it on lady.

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