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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's Thursday, May twenty second, twenty twenty five. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast Where running Backs Matter.

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Speaker 1: It's Me and your Man, MG Marcus Grant, joined by

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Speaker 1: Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones, and today got a

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Speaker 1: special guess. It is a former Cardinal, former Buck, former Bronco,

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Speaker 1: former Dolphin. It is Chase Edmonds. Chase, I appreciate just

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Speaker 1: stopping by, man, Thanks for joining us. How are you today, fellas?

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you all having me on.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, man, We're glad to have you here. One

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Speaker 1: just kind of, you know, just talk some football, maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit of fantasy with you. I guess the

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Speaker 1: first question is, I mean for you, are you I know,

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Speaker 1: you know you were playing it. It's a little bit

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Speaker 1: harder when you're actually, you know, playing on a week

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Speaker 1: tweek basis. But ye, are you a fantasy guy? Do

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Speaker 1: you have any interest in it? What's your your connection

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Speaker 1: to it?

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Speaker 3: So I personally used to be a fantasy guy and

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Speaker 3: kind of fell off the cliff a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Not as much.

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Speaker 3: I have friends from back home that are absolute diehard

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Speaker 3: fantasy players. They're the guys that you'll see, like, you know,

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Speaker 3: the last Place Loser. One of my friends had to

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Speaker 3: do a photo shoot on a on a Harley Davison

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Speaker 3: and like like his drawns like look good. So I mean, bro,

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Speaker 3: they go after it bron hard. So just kind of

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Speaker 3: hearing their conversations about it. I have a good idea

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Speaker 3: of the fantasy strategies and kind of how people you know,

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Speaker 3: go about the thing. But me personally, I'm not a

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Speaker 3: fantasy guy. I'll definitely get into it once I'm officially

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Speaker 3: done playing ball though, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Dude, do your friends who player they ever like, hey Chase,

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Speaker 4: we need we need a touchdown or something this weekue.

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Speaker 3: Like they always trying to get you in trouble. But

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Speaker 3: I kind of just tell those guys, look, man, hey,

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Speaker 3: the league ain't playing with that one.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I ain't got nothing for you. I just watching.

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Speaker 3: Watching, got your phone tapped everything.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is crazy.

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Speaker 5: But Chase, I know it's the off season right now,

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Speaker 5: and you still want to get out there and get

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Speaker 5: on the field. Because when you were on Good Morning Football,

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Speaker 5: you were talking more so of like hey man, if

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Speaker 5: there's some teams out there, what's up, Like you ready

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Speaker 5: to go. So you're still in shape ready to go

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Speaker 5: out there right.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, bro.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously it was unfortunate that I tore my

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Speaker 3: moniscus and training camp last year.

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Speaker 2: That's just the way it goes, you know.

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers obviously a great organization, and they put

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Speaker 3: me on a season ending got off, so they still

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Speaker 3: took care of me financially, let me be around the

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Speaker 3: guys and have that impact in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: So I'm forever for them for that.

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Speaker 3: Healed up very well though, held up beat the Rehabye

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Speaker 3: by the month month ahead of progress. So I've been

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Speaker 3: cleared to go now since about January and obviously just

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Speaker 3: with the Coast that went pretty well a couple about

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Speaker 3: a week and a half ago. But again, man, just

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Speaker 3: really waiting for that right opportunity. I'm not in a

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Speaker 3: rusher kind of tripping or you know, got my head

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Speaker 3: in the world spin. I'm blessed and grateful to be

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Speaker 3: doing opportunities like this you guys right now, So I

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Speaker 2: I always try to find a.

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Speaker 3: Light and the positivity and anything that's going on in life, right,

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Speaker 3: because we're all going through something. So for me, I've

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Speaker 3: been blessed and fortunate to get to I'll be going

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Speaker 3: in the year eight really, which is just crazy for

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Speaker 3: me coming from Fordham. So definitely want to get back

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Speaker 3: the season ending injury, you know, but just to I'm

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Speaker 4: Bro Well, First shout out to fordhom I'm a New Yorker.

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Speaker 2: Here, so shout out to you guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm root for you guys.

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Speaker 6: But your answer there, I wanted to ask because athletes,

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Speaker 6: you guys, are so good at staying in the now

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Speaker 6: and controlling what you're controlling stuff and his fans and

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Speaker 6: stuff from the outside, it's the exact opposite.

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Speaker 4: So like, how do you stay in that right state

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I think football does a great job of

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Speaker 3: teaching you the highs and lows and the ebbs and

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Speaker 3: through adversity and then using that adversity as an opportunity

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Speaker 3: to just respond in a positive manner and keep pressing forward.

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Speaker 3: So like you could be on the first down, you

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Speaker 3: just got a first down, and then you get a

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Speaker 3: sack that puts you on the second and seventeen. That's

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Speaker 3: the same thing as life.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: You might have something where you maybe you get a

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Speaker 3: this is my calling, this.

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Speaker 2: Is something that's going to be really positive for me.

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Speaker 3: And then next thing you know, you look back and

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Speaker 3: it's like, damn, I'm three steps beyond where I just

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Speaker 3: was and I thought I was making progress. And that's

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Speaker 3: the beautiful thing about the game that we play in football,

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Speaker 3: where everybody has a job and it's always an opportunity

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Speaker 3: to really overcome that adversity. So I take that same mannerism,

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Speaker 3: that same outlook on life and on football, and I

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Speaker 3: just apply it to the everyday basics. Man, So never

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Speaker 3: too high, never too low, understanding that everything is in

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Speaker 3: God's perfect timing, and that every single opportunity or every

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Speaker 3: single situation happens for a reasoning. And it's just about

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Speaker 3: finding that reasoning in life. That's really what I really

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Speaker 1: Well, why I talk to you about that, you know,

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Speaker 1: some actual on field stuff, and you mentioned being in

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay for the last couple of years, And I

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Speaker 1: kind of want to get into that offense because over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, this offense has been as

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Speaker 1: potent as any around the league. I mean, obviously a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent there. I mean, you got Mike Evans

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Speaker 1: What is it about this offense that makes it so

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Speaker 1: tough to stop?

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Speaker 2: I think it's.

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Speaker 3: A component of about three major things. So I think

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Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield doesn't get enough love. For one, He's you know,

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Speaker 3: he's dealt with offensive coordinator changes now like four years

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Speaker 3: that's actually a strength of his now because now he

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Speaker 3: can just pick up on an offense just like that.

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Speaker 2: He's seen so many of them.

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Speaker 3: And then you talk about just the culture of the

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Speaker 3: team and the culture of that building. So when you

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Speaker 3: have guys like Mike Evans and Chris Godwin who really

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Speaker 3: laid the foundation down, and I mean those two guys

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Speaker 3: one of the best teammates that I've had from a.

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Speaker 2: From a start. On standpoint right.

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Speaker 3: You know you every team as stars and they carry

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Speaker 3: themselves a different way.

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Speaker 2: There's different stars around the league, and those.

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Speaker 3: Guys just treat everybody saying, I mean, honest to good,

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Speaker 3: just down the earth, good brothers. And they set the

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Speaker 3: foundation of like what practice is supposed to look like,

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Speaker 3: what the work is supposed to look like, what the

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Speaker 3: absolute foundation and expectation every single day coming to work

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Speaker 3: also you talked about that offensive line, man, I mean

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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay. That offensive line very underrated, top three, top

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Speaker 3: five unit in my opinion. You got Tristan Works who's

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Speaker 3: to be a bona fide pro bowler, like one of

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Speaker 3: those guys that just I'm telling you he's gonna be

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Speaker 3: a pro bowler for like the next five years. He's

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Speaker 3: one of those guys, bro that just came in as

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Speaker 3: just took the job. Was never too big from Life's

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Speaker 3: never too big from at all. Jason Litt does a

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Speaker 3: great job with drafting as well, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: very important. You know, you look at I remember I

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Speaker 3: but they were like trying to recover from cat put

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Speaker 2: And all Jason lind did.

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Speaker 3: Was just draft stars after star after star after star

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Speaker 3: and starters and like they're still on top, you know,

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Speaker 2: For the fifth. I think that they have a bright

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Speaker 2: future for sure.

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Speaker 5: So you talked about that whole line man, and it

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Speaker 5: kind of makes sense of how graceful that Bucky Irvin

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Speaker 5: finished as the rookie RB one. So what are your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Bucky's gonna expect the same

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Speaker 3: type of fireworks, right, And when it comes to Bucky,

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Speaker 3: you talk about explosive plays, the thing that sticks out

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Speaker 2: South very very quickly.

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Speaker 3: And obviously it's about making the first man most of

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Speaker 2: It does a great job of just.

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Speaker 3: Making something out of nothing and always really coming with

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Speaker 3: that exposive play mannerism. I did some stats just to

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Speaker 3: look up because we're in it, you're not really paying

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Speaker 3: I saw, let me pull them up really fat. Some

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Speaker 3: of the things that I saw about Bucky Irving was

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Speaker 3: that from weeks one through five, Bucky had a total

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Speaker 3: just fifty two touches, so very very low volume in

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Speaker 3: that aspect, and he only had five games of fifteen

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Speaker 3: or more rushing attempts throughout the whole season. So you

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Speaker 3: talk about you know, he cemented himself as the RB

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Speaker 3: going to you know, get fifteen rushing attempts at least

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Speaker 3: nine times, you know, guarding that he stays healthy. Right,

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Speaker 3: I got to be at least nine times throughout the season.

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Speaker 3: I know that they're not going to want to just

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Speaker 3: turn him into a bellcout because of his natural body status,

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Speaker 3: or you want to really keep him healthy.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of teams.

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Speaker 3: Are going to start going towards the Detroit Lions formula

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Speaker 3: where you drafted back and I know Bucky.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't first of all picked like Jamior Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: But you have a guy that's explosive, you want to

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Speaker 3: keep him explosive for a seventeen week period. So it's about,

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Speaker 3: you know, having those spurts of like, Okay, maybe this

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Speaker 3: is a game where he needs twenty five touches, but

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Speaker 3: that's never the goal every single week. That's how you

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Speaker 3: just run these guys ground and they have a really

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Speaker 3: same type of production, probably a little more just because

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Speaker 3: we have a little more volume. But I still definitely

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Speaker 3: expect them to have that two back and sometimes even

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Speaker 3: three back system.

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Speaker 2: For the career. And that's because they.

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Speaker 3: I believe he's I think he had the most receiving

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Speaker 3: I think again, a situation that I kind of see

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Speaker 5: So I want to transition to the Jags backfield man

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Speaker 5: talking for Seawl Towton, We're calling calling ETN, We're calling

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Speaker 3: With the backfield, I'm going to say that, and it

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Speaker 2: The experience that I had with Liam is that.

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Speaker 3: But of that backfield, one of those guys will get

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, man, fantasy is simple. You just you

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Speaker 1: He's maybe not the flashiest guy back there, but he's

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Speaker 3: JC, I got nothing but great things that they say

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Speaker 4: Much deserved for him as well. Huge James Connor fans

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Speaker 1: That's the thing, Chase. We have a RAMS fan on

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Speaker 3: They do say ball security, job security in the running

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Speaker 3: good for his long term career. I believe that he's

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00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 3: gotta he's got to hold him the fundeling thing because

445
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,640
Speaker 3: in some ways it almost cost him that that Philly game.

446
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,680
Speaker 3: I never liked to blame I never like to blame

447
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,359
Speaker 3: a game on one player, bro, So I'm not saying

448
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:03,920
Speaker 3: that at all.

449
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 2: But you know, turnovers are the fastest way to lose a.

450
00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,480
Speaker 3: Football game and win the football game the NFL, no

451
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,400
Speaker 3: matter if you got seventeen rushing touchdowns or you're being

452
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 3: productive with fourteen hundred yards, it's just, you know, the

453
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 3: ball is everybody's lively.

454
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,399
Speaker 2: That's literally what we say in the locker room.

455
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 3: So I'm going to say that it's the RB one

456
00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,479
Speaker 3: row and just him being another top ten running back

457
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 3: finish is his to lose.

458
00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,159
Speaker 1: But it like that, so a security, What can you

459
00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,040
Speaker 1: do as a running back to sort of work on that?

460
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen guys, yeah in their career sort

461
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,679
Speaker 1: of improve. What sort of things can you do to

462
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 1: help work.

463
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's as much as a technique thing

464
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 3: as it is you've got to have paranoid awareness. I

465
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 3: heard running back coach Coach Sackson when I was in

466
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 3: the Ezy they used to use that expression of paranoid

467
00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 3: awareness about where defenders are around you and like so

468
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 3: like with someone like Kyle and say, Kyra runs so

469
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 3: hard all the time, and he's never really focused on

470
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,040
Speaker 3: like sometimes holding the football with with two hands when

471
00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 3: he's in that danger on in the box around a

472
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,560
Speaker 3: lot of guys where there's going to be a lot

473
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 3: of arm movement defenders that you don't really see. He's

474
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 3: more worried about, you know, making the guy miss and

475
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 3: providing explosive plays like he does.

476
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,360
Speaker 2: So I think that it.

477
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,200
Speaker 3: Just comes down to that paranoid awareness about okay, am

478
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 3: I in a situation where I can you know, put

479
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 3: the explosive play over the ball security. I think it's

480
00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 3: always about mitigating risks. So it's like you're in a

481
00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 3: situation where Okay, if I make this guy miss, I'm

482
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 3: in open field. I know I can make a twenty

483
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 3: yard run to a fifty yard toestdown. Well that's the

484
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 3: case where you know what, let's try to make this

485
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 3: due miss and that's not cover the ball level two hiss,

486
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 3: but it's a first down run. You know, you might

487
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 3: break a little inside zone and you're around two or

488
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 3: three linebackers. I don't think that's the best case scenario

489
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 3: where you're trying to run through all those guys. I

490
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 3: think you need to you know, take the ball security

491
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 3: into into effect and go and survive for another play.

492
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 2: So I think it's you know, it's more of a mentality.

493
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 4: When I was growing up, there was a story the

494
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 4: Giants apparently made Tiki Barber carry a football around an

495
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 4: entire offseason everywhere he went. Would that actually work because

496
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 4: like no one's trying to strip the ball from him

497
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 4: in everyday life.

498
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't, Like I think that's one of

499
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: them old school things that's like, yeah, bro, you're gonna

500
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,640
Speaker 3: carry this well, run.

501
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 2: Everyhere you go.

502
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 3: You gotta practice it, man, Like you gotta practice live

503
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 3: reps of having guys swiping going after the.

504
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 2: Ball to you. In practice, you gotta have guys that

505
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: are kind of like the way there. You know, it's practice.

506
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 3: You can break off a little runner, you know what

507
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,479
Speaker 3: I mean, like catch you off guard, Like you have

508
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 3: to have that muscle memory work to really allow that

509
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 3: to you know, stay in function and actually bring that

510
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 3: to you from like a neurological standpoint. And now you

511
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 3: have those reps where Okay, I'm used to somebody swiping

512
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 3: after the ball, really going after it.

513
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: And I'm not really, you know, as much losing my

514
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 2: tug on it. So again, I.

515
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 3: Think it's all about just the body of the work

516
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 3: and the really treating the practices like the games.

517
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Speaker 1: Gonna take a quick break. Come back more with Chase

518
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Speaker 1: Edmunds on the other side. Stick around for more of

519
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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

520
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Speaker 5: So I want to ask you about a running back

521
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 5: that you were very high on during the draft process

522
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 5: from Kansas.

523
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 2: State, DJ Giddings.

524
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 5: Can you tell us more about what made you so

525
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 5: excited about his game and how do you see him

526
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 5: fitting behind JT and NNDY.

527
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

528
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: Man, when I was watching DJ Giddens film, I was

529
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 3: getting ready for the Good Morning Football segment and he

530
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 3: I'm not going to say that he's going to have

531
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: the same trajectory where he's going to be like this player,

532
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 3: but I'm telling you, bro, he really reminded me of

533
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: Lev Bell. I thought DJ getting said like top two

534
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 3: top three vision coming out with the classes in terms

535
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 3: of just his ability to just naturally find a whole

536
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: and understand how linebackers may flow.

537
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 2: And then he can really see a back gap cut.

538
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 3: The other thing that I thought he did the best,

539
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 3: probably in the class was just naturally making somebody miss.

540
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't want to say like he's the most elusive.

541
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's more elusive than Trevion Henderson or

542
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 3: something like that, But in terms of just naturally making

543
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 3: defenders miss, I mean there was you can pull a

544
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 3: multiple clips with DJ Getts naturally stopping his feet in

545
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: the hole, putting a defender on freeze, getting back outside,

546
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 3: getting back north south. And I think that when you

547
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 3: come to the NFL, that's the number one difference when

548
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 3: with rocky running backs who have success and who don't

549
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: have success. Can you make these guys miss in these

550
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: type spaces because the holes collapse a lot faster, guys

551
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 3: fill the holes a lot quicker. And it's really about, Okay,

552
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 3: can you make somebody miss super quick and get back

553
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: north and south? And that's something that DJ Giddens.

554
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: Does really well. As far as his role with Jonathan Taylor.

555
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: I think it's a perfect situation for him, to be honest,

556
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 3: you know, I think that he gets to take his

557
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: time and groom and really understand the speed of the game.

558
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: Understand kind of the schematics of the run system. He

559
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: doesn't have to come in and take fifteen carries. I

560
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: think he's going to be a great change of pace

561
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 3: back to JT, especially if he can really, you know,

562
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 3: take advantage of his role with the receiving role. You know,

563
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: right now JT is not really used as that guy

564
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 3: that gets the grabs and gets the receptions. So I'm

565
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: sure Shane the head coach, will you know, draw some

566
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 3: plays up for DJ. So I think that I wouldn't

567
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: be surprised if you saw some some pony packages, meaning

568
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 3: both of those guys on the field at the same time,

569
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 3: and they really try to utilize DJ from like a

570
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: receiving standpoint, just to get his feed wet and really

571
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: use his ability to make guys miss an open field.

572
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Speaker 1: I'm Ashton Genty was sort of the headliner of this

573
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Speaker 1: draft class. He's the guy that everybody sort of started

574
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Speaker 1: the conversation with. I know, there's no such thing as

575
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: they can't miss prospect, right, you know, we see guys

576
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: who just for whatever reason just don't quite succeed. But

577
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: your thoughts on him and his chances to be successful

578
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: in year one with Pete Carroll and the Raiders.

579
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Jet Ashton as a prospect. I think

580
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 3: going to oak I keep saying, OK, to Las Vegas,

581
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: used to.

582
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: That, going to Las Vegas.

583
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Speaker 3: The thing about being a six pick running back, right,

584
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: the expectation is going to be that he has to

585
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: run for like twelve hundred yards. And I used the

586
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: twelve hundred yards as a benchmark actually because I looked

587
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 3: up a weird stat every running back under Pete Carroll

588
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: he was in Seattle that had over two hundred carries

589
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: had at least twelve hundred total yards.

590
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say twelve hund rushing yards, but twelve

591
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: hundred total yards.

592
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 3: So you had four years in Rold Marshawn, you had

593
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen with Chris Carson. So to me,

594
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: that's that's that's the benchmark. He's gonna have over two

595
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: hundred carries. I know that for a fact, as long

596
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: as he stays healthy. So how much they use him

597
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: in the receiving game, Boise State didn't really you know,

598
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: they didn't ask him to catch the ball.

599
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he can't catch the ball.

600
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Speaker 3: So that's something that I think is going to be

601
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 3: important and you know, really dictate.

602
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: His final Fantasy ranking. What is he at right now?

603
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: For ADB, He's back with the running backs before brother.

604
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: That's that's crazy on him.

605
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Speaker 3: That's just crazy to me because like I think, I

606
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Speaker 3: remember when I was really good at fantasy as a

607
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 3: as a player, when I was aasy and it was

608
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 3: because I was on an explosive offense bros Like one.

609
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: I was the receiving back.

610
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: As well, But being on an explode offense just gives

611
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 3: you so many more opportunities for success. Like Ashton Genty

612
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: is going to be the number one option coming in

613
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: day one with the Raiders, even though they had the

614
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 3: greatest tight end season of all time.

615
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: Like you're tight, is just not going to be your

616
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: number on option.

617
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 3: So every single defense, every single week is going to

618
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 3: try to stop number two asht Gents. So I do

619
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 3: think there's going to be some pullback a little bit

620
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: from what the expectation is to what the reality is

621
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Speaker 3: of the situation. I still think though he cranks that

622
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 3: twelve hundred yards total mark, and it just depends on

623
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Speaker 3: how many times he sees the end zone that really

624
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: you know, showcases where he finishes out as a fantasy

625
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: running back.

626
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Speaker 4: And then there's Omarion Hampton, who was consensus the RB

627
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 4: two in this class, but they signed Naji Harris just

628
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: before the draft, So what do you expect that backfield

629
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Speaker 4: to look like? And a lot of the times in

630
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: fantasy where like, well the rookies going to take over.

631
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 4: Is that the mindset of these players in the locker

632
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: room or how does that kind of work itself out?

633
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: Well, that's never the mindset of the players in the

634
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: locker because, like again for us, it's all about the work.

635
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: So you won't know until training camp. Those guys that

636
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 3: get a better understanding of like have those two backs

637
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: Naji and a Mario him to compliment each other and

638
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: kind of who is the cream of the croft.

639
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: I see that as being He's definitely.

640
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: Going to touch the rock obviously, right. Is he going

641
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 3: to be a day one starter. I'm gonna say no,

642
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 3: because they did pay Naji five and a half. I

643
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: think for day one standpoint, it's like a one A,

644
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 3: one B thing. I do think Naji is the one

645
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: A back just because of the experience, and you don't

646
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 3: want to put so much pressure on the mind to

647
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: come in immediately and just be the future back. So

648
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: I do like Naji still as the day one back,

649
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: and I also like Naji as the four minute running

650
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: back and possibly even the short yards goal on situation running.

651
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: But now I know Harbor, excuse me, he likes to

652
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: sprinkle in different backs at the short yard situation and

653
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: those guys are both power back systems, so it's not

654
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 3: really gonna matter. But Naji has a history of really

655
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: never funnling the football. He has two seasons of donuts

656
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: with no fumbles, so to me, that screams four minute

657
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: running back. And for those that don't know, four minute

658
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: running back is when you're trying to close the game

659
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: out and that's where a lot of those those garbage

660
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 3: jars and chunk yards can come at the end of the

661
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: football games if possible touchdowns, right, So I do see

662
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: Naji being one day for at least the first quarter

663
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 3: of the season, so I mean, like the first four

664
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 3: games of the season, and then we'll see how it goes.

665
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm a big stat guy, right, so if I'm killing

666
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: y'all with the stats, let me know.

667
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: But no good. My last running backs to get drafted

668
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 3: from twenty to twenty five were Nausey and Jacobs.

669
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: Both of those guys had two hundred and forty carriers

670
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: to repeear.

671
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 3: Now, they didn't have a Naji behind them, either one

672
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: of them. But I'm going to say that Omarion has

673
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty carries.

674
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: That's pretty such. I'll say one hundred eighty carries and

675
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: it's pretty You do with that? How you think his

676
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: production is going to be one hundred eighty carries because

677
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: I mean they drafted him. They drafted so he's gonna play.

678
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: But I think that he's gonna play more later as

679
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 3: opposed to more earlier.

680
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 4: Quick quick follow up there? How different is it for

681
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 4: a team like the Patriots who new coaching staff Ramandre

682
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: Stevenson was from the old coaching staff Henderson is there?

683
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: Like does that matter because we talk about that a

684
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 4: lot in fantasy? Is that very different from like the

685
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 4: Chargers who brought both running backs in.

686
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 2: I think it matters a little bit.

687
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it matters a whole lot because

688
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: Remandre is a talented running back in this situation, but

689
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: like I'll give another example, like it matters a lot

690
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: in the Jaguar situation, Like where you know you got

691
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: Traff coming, you got a whole new coaching staff, and

692
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: Traff I'm not gonna see that it down yere, But

693
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: he was a little unhealthy, little banged up, So now

694
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: you know, people don't look at him as the same

695
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: for like the Patriots situation. Here's why I say it

696
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: doesn't matter as much. Those two guys really compliment one another.

697
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: So Remandre is going to be the first and second

698
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: down back, and I'll see the first and second and

699
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: short back. So that's how I see that split going

700
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: like a sixty to forty split with those guys. Rabriel

701
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 3: loves to obviously pound the rock impose physicality for his team,

702
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: so mag is definitely gonna have more carries out of

703
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: the two. But then what they're gonna do is they're

704
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 3: probably just gonna put both of those guys in the

705
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: situation that makes them succeed the most. So if it's

706
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 3: second and five and longer, expect Travon Henderson to be

707
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: on the football field. But if it's second to five

708
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: and shorter, because you still got that run there, will

709
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 3: Expectrimandre Stevenson to be on a football field. And then

710
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: third down situation, it will be Treyon's down, that will

711
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 3: definitely be his down. I think also for them for

712
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: fantasy impact, a big thing that's gonna matter is the

713
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: receptions to the red zone opportunities for the two. So

714
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 3: how many receptions is Trevon Henderson gonna be looking at

715
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 3: the game and then in the red zone is New

716
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: England going to take the approach of keeping the ball

717
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: in Drake Mason? Because if that's the case, Treyvion's probably

718
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: gonna be on the field more in the red zone.

719
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: But if Mike Vrabel wants they get inside the tenor

720
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: inside the fifteen, he kind of has that still that

721
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: Tennessee tighte mentality of now we're going to pound this

722
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: rocket and score from the ground. Then that's gonna be

723
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: Rimandre's role. So I think both of those guys has

724
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: a crazy successful fantasy year just because they compliment each

725
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: other so well.

726
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: And I'm not talk a lot, but just to get

727
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: back to your point about Mario and we love this

728
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: yeah and Naji.

729
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: That situation to me, they both are going to be

730
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: have their opportunities because it's like you said, the new

731
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 3: staff they brought in Naji, they just paid them off

732
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: free agency and they also wanted to bring in a

733
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: running back for the future, so I think they look

734
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: at that situation like, look, man, we got two guys

735
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: that now they are kind.

736
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: Of the same type of back.

737
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: I'll say you Marion probably will get more receiving just

738
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: because he's a little bit more explosive the Nagy in

739
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: terms of really taking those things to distance.

740
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: But they are kind of like the same type of back.

741
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: So that's one of those things where I look at.

742
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: As when it comes to target share, run share, everyone

743
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: to categorize it. I can see it being a down

744
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: the next split just between the two because of you

745
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: Harbor also bringing in Nagy.

746
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Speaker 5: So I wanted to ask you about one of my

747
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: favorite running backs coming out of his class, r J.

748
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: Harvey. Here's yeah, let's go Chase.

749
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 4: Let's go Chase.

750
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 5: Now I'm wondering, how do you see him fitting in

751
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 5: this Sean Payton in Denver Broncos offense in year one?

752
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love r J. Harvey.

753
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: Man. I called him real juice on it on the

754
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: Good Morning Football segment today. I tried to tell the

755
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: Bronco fans that's who I see they should go after.

756
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: And I just look at what Sean Payne has done

757
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: when he's had a really good, explosive, elusive back and

758
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: they all just had success. You look at Alvin Kamar's

759
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 3: rookie year. I think this is the benchmark for RJ.

760
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: Harvey because I actually think he'll touch the football more

761
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: than what AK did his REMII and AK finished with

762
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: fifteen fifty scrimmage yards and like thirteen touchdowns. So to me,

763
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: that's that's the benchmark for r J.

764
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: Harvey.

765
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: Fifteen hundred total yards and minimum ten touchdowns. I think

766
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: I think he'll touch the football a lot. He's explosive,

767
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: and man, you know what he has that denver O

768
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: Lion is our dogs, their dogs up front.

769
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 2: You man, so come out and chase.

770
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: You know, he's got a really good opportunity to do

771
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: some really special things out there.

772
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: In my.

773
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: Uh what I let you know though, I mean we

774
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: talked about a whole lot of guys. Anybody that that

775
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: maybe you didn't mention that you got your eye on,

776
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: or just anybody you enjoy watching play at the running

777
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: back spot?

778
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: Who do I enjoy watching play at the running back

779
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 3: spot right now? The obvious choice is obviously Saquon jumping

780
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: over people.

781
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: That is just that's absolutely ridiculous.

782
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: Aaron Jobs, man, you know who I'm going to go

783
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: as a sleeper though, and I wanted to make sure

784
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 3: I touched on this. It's two guys, And I don't

785
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: know if you want to call him a sleeper because

786
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: I think he's like RB nineteen right now. But you

787
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: when you check football Twitter, and then when I was

788
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: looking at like some of the draft mocks the disrespect

789
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: that DeAndre Swift was getting, let me tell you guys,

790
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift is going to be a top ten running

791
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: back this season. Talk about it, man, Yo, d PA

792
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: boy for Philly. But d Swift is so cold. I

793
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 3: love his game. I love how explosive he is. I

794
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: love how elucive he is just watching from the TV.

795
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm not going to ever kill coaching because again, you know,

796
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 3: we all working hard in the NFL. But the scheme

797
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: that they were running from like a run game standpoint,

798
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: they still no shot.

799
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: Bro.

800
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: If you knew what you were looking at, you were

801
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: watching Chicago's run game from a schematic standpoint, they didn't

802
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 3: stand a shot, you know. And so I think he

803
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: averaged like three point nine yards last year. People were

804
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: kind of trying to kill him on. Look, what did

805
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: they meet it up? That offensive line over there. Ben

806
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 3: Johnson is going to come in and call some explosive plays,

807
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: and DeAndre Swift is going to benefit like hell out

808
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 3: of having Ben Johnson there, and he's going to remind

809
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: people that he's the real deal. Another guy that I

810
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: like that I think is going to have a lot

811
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: more opportunity is Jordan Mason coming to miss.

812
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: That's joy, Let's go.

813
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: That's your guy. You're talking to my guys right now,

814
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: Let's go.

815
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: I think I just think Aaron Jones is still gonna

816
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: be very productive.

817
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Jones one of the more underrated running

818
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: backs of our era. Truly, like he's been always productive

819
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: in every single season, but because of his age a

820
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: little bit, I think they will try to keep him

821
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: healthy for a seventeen game season. Jordan Mason's coming into

822
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: the same system that he just left in San Francisco,

823
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: so the familiarity there.

824
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: Again.

825
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 3: You look at any team that's coached by Koc calling

826
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 3: the players bro. I love Koc. I think he's a

827
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: top three offensive line in this NFL. In this league,

828
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: you got Justin Jefferson and Addison on the outside, so

829
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: the not gonna see heavy boxes.

830
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: I'm as long as J. J.

831
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: McCarthy comes in there and does what they do, Minnesota

832
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: is gonna be better than like.

833
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to say better because they want like fourteen.

834
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: Games, but they'll be right at the next top of

835
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 3: the of the NFC North, you know.

836
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: And then my last sleeper, last sleeper.

837
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: Strictly off of situation for fantasy purposes, Cam Scataboo.

838
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a scatabol friendly podcast.

839
00:35:59,520 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: Man.

840
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: Cam.

841
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: He's better out of the backfield than people want to

842
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: give him credit for. Maybe just because they just see

843
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: the white skin and that he's two thirty, I don't know.

844
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: But he actually can catch the football, he can run routes.

845
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 3: But I think day one, no matter what, he's the

846
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 3: short yardest goal one running back for the Giants because

847
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: they still got Secretary and Tracy.

848
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: That's going to be his role no matter what.

849
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 3: So the people that love that vulture term, he might

850
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: vulture some touchdowns away, Like Cam can give you ten

851
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: points and have six touches in the game, like truly

852
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: just because it gets you a touchdown and maybe two grabs.

853
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 3: So Cam Scattable, I think is someone that he's he'll

854
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 3: be a sleeper for fantasy.

855
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, teen Cam weird team Cam here on

856
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: this show, so we absolutely love all of that. Going

857
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: down the list of Fordham greats, you got Vince Lombardi,

858
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington. For Dodger fans, it's Vin Scully and then

859
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds. Chase, We're so glad to have you on

860
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: the show. It was a lot of fun having the conversation.

861
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: And I know you're starting to get back in the game,

862
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: so good luck to you, you know, on your work out,

863
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: your rehabs, and hopefully we see you back on the

864
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: field sometime soon.

865
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: Man, but we p you got so much.

866
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: Thanks for the opportunity to have me absolutely Before we

867
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: get out of here, quick note for you, no show

868
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 1: for you beginning of next week. We'll be back with

869
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: a cheat sheet next Thursday, so stay tuned for that.

870
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: In the meantime. That'll do it for this edition of

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00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy,

872
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: do good, live well, enjoy the holiday week and everybody,

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you again next week.