Speaker 1: What do you call two guys that were there when
Speaker 1: this happened? Back to return at Spurlock. Michael Spurlock at
Speaker 1: the chim he still the twenty. He's at the twenty
Speaker 1: five per thirty come aboard to yearline. We could see
Speaker 1: history fifty forty come a thirty. Michael run, Michael run,
Speaker 1: Michael run. Set stops half a day. The fare you
Speaker 1: go in that shotgun sense. We receivers left and here's
Speaker 1: the staff of the glitzer has picked up Brady and
Speaker 1: he caught balls. He has the record at the eleven
Speaker 1: yard line. Mike Kevins becomes the first NFL player from
Speaker 1: lead history to record a thousand yards and board this
Speaker 1: pirst seventh season to want to throw by Brady. Congratulations
Speaker 1: Mike Kevins. Who can forget again? I'm looking against the
Speaker 1: side already thirty touchdowns ham a day. Derek Brooks Spalliot
Speaker 1: player in the National Football League, dress Dot Daggers in
Speaker 1: where you gonna win the Super Bowl? Here's the snap.
Speaker 1: My homes running to his right. Look out he may
Speaker 1: run my home. Director Sumnay picked up with the fox.
Speaker 1: We gotta be the chief. We're the champions of the world.
Speaker 1: We still have. I'm at a Clarky three to go.
Speaker 1: Deavin White got up great second season. If that's it,
Speaker 1: We're Casey Bucks. All the Super Bowl champions they can't
Speaker 1: stop the clock. We call them the Salty Dogs. Welcome
Speaker 1: to this week's episode of The Salty Dogs Podcast, Week
Speaker 1: seven of the regular season. I am Scott Smith, I'm
Speaker 1: Jeff Ryan. We are the Salty Dogs. Yeah we are,
Speaker 1: and we talk mostly about Tampa Bay Buccaneers football. We
Speaker 1: try sometimes get a little salty. Well, what you're the
Speaker 1: one somebody told me less this past week that we
Speaker 1: seem particularly salty. We were last week, we were very salty.
Speaker 1: I don't feel salty right now. Um, I feel deflated.
Speaker 1: Do you really? Oh? I don't. Well, I'm here to
Speaker 1: cheer you up because I don't feel that way at all. Good. Well,
Speaker 1: I need it. I don't feel I will say this,
Speaker 1: what's that? I'm sorry? Go ahead. I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: What you should say is if you'd like to submitted question,
Speaker 1: we would be more than happy. So go aheavery good.
Speaker 1: Jeff's on it today. He told Jim in a happy mood,
Speaker 1: I think we got an early lead for this podcast
Speaker 1: m VP. So we I always forget to say this.
Speaker 1: Up top of our last segment of every podcast is
Speaker 1: answering fans questions. We've been getting a good amount of
Speaker 1: them this year, but we'd always love to have more.
Speaker 1: And uh, to ask us a question, you can email
Speaker 1: it to Salty Dogs at Buccaneers dot NFL dot com. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you'll probably get more. Starting to get more listeners
Speaker 1: were on Serious XM, but we're it's the Serious x
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Speaker 1: you can also get the app. So when you go
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Speaker 1: Dogs and our stuff will come up. Awesome, all right,
Speaker 1: I thought i'd throw that out. We did have a
Speaker 1: little issue, I guess the last couple of weeks with
Speaker 1: not showing up on Apple. We gotta resolve the right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess. You know. All I know is I take
Speaker 1: the file, I give it to someone else, and I
Speaker 1: never see it again. So I did we do our
Speaker 1: part where the talent, So that's all. It's the best
Speaker 1: we can do, now, you know, Jeff, I I feel
Speaker 1: deflated still a little bit from the game on Sunday,
Speaker 1: And you know the reason it was. It was a
Speaker 1: kind of game, and I don't like this experience where
Speaker 1: you kept waiting for it to change. I kept thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna continue to play this way the whole way, right.
Speaker 1: They're incredibly beat up. Secondary isn't gonna continue even at halftime.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, Tom Brady is a hundred ten yards
Speaker 1: sub sub at that point completion percentage. I'm like, Dey'll
Speaker 1: make some adjustments, they'll come out in the second half,
Speaker 1: and I'll start torching the secondary like Tom Brady was
Speaker 1: lightening up to two previous weeks. And we're playing against
Speaker 1: the Steelers who were without Mica Fitzpatrick and their three
Speaker 1: best cornerbacks and t J. Watt. It's it's a lesson
Speaker 1: I learned a long time ago, but I have a
Speaker 1: hard time dealing with it anyway that it never seems
Speaker 1: like these games conform to what the obvious storylines are.
Speaker 1: You go into this one thinking they're one and four,
Speaker 1: they've lost four in or row, they're unbelievably banged up.
Speaker 1: We've got most of our receivers healthy. Now we should
Speaker 1: have no problem piling up the passing yards of these guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would feel that way had they not gotten blown
Speaker 1: out by Buffalo the week before. So I think I
Speaker 1: think a lot of times when a team really gets
Speaker 1: blown up like that, they have a tend easy to
Speaker 1: come back and and then look at it. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin was, you know, everybody was complaining about him
Speaker 1: up in Pittsburgh and the defensive coordinator up there. A
Speaker 1: lot of issues and you know, they just there's a
Speaker 1: lot of pride in in in playing this game and
Speaker 1: if it was easy. Tom Brady said it last night.
Speaker 1: You know football is hard, and I totally agree with that,
Speaker 1: but I said it after the game around his podcast.
Speaker 1: He said it on his podcast, which which in that
Speaker 1: that particular game, they made the play to win the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers had the opportunity or we had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to make a couple of plays and not not saying
Speaker 1: a whole lot, but the one that that still gets
Speaker 1: me is not being able to get it into the
Speaker 1: end zone and pick which time you want, right, And
Speaker 1: we're gonna get all of those things. But um, I
Speaker 1: think what we've just done, or you just did, is
Speaker 1: answer a question from a fan that we got last week.
Speaker 1: Remember he asked us whether we liked playing teams that
Speaker 1: were coming off a blow win or blow loss or whatever.
Speaker 1: And um, your theory just not is that it's worse
Speaker 1: if they're coming off a blowoff loss. I thought it
Speaker 1: would be good because a blowout loss means you're probably
Speaker 1: not very good. It's not always the case. And well,
Speaker 1: Steelers are decent, especially this year. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know who's good, and I do know Bill the
Speaker 1: Bills are good. However, they got upset in a game
Speaker 1: that everyone didn't see that one coming, so it was
Speaker 1: hot as hell in Miami. Don't care the reason why, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm saying you're not Yeah, you're not probably going seventeen.
Speaker 1: You know, I think the Bills are the best team
Speaker 1: in the league, but I never thought that seven. We
Speaker 1: lost to a decent team in some pretty adverse condition
Speaker 1: but otherwise pretty much handled everybody. And they just beat
Speaker 1: Kansas City in Kansas City. Yeah, okay, but anyway, but yes,
Speaker 1: but what just just that that the league is just
Speaker 1: kind of funky and it's like less than a touchdown
Speaker 1: or three point you know. Yeah, the Kickers are are
Speaker 1: the m vvs of the league right now. And if
Speaker 1: you go back and start looking at the games that
Speaker 1: are boiled boiled down to a kick, and which what
Speaker 1: we've been seeing. We just lost a two point game
Speaker 1: in which their kicker made a fifty five yard field
Speaker 1: goal that bounced off of the crossbark and through to
Speaker 1: your point there, Um, I think one of the one
Speaker 1: of the things you've been most fond of saying this
Speaker 1: year on this podcast series is past results of games
Speaker 1: are not very good indicators at all of what's going
Speaker 1: to happen in the following week which obviously the Buckner's
Speaker 1: hope remains true this coming weekend. But I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a better example of that than this past weekend.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Buccaneers lost the Steelers. They were they
Speaker 1: were the they were the highest favorite team this year
Speaker 1: to lose a game. Um, Atlanta beats. Just a week ago,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, okay, San France, they might be in
Speaker 1: the top five because that defense is crazy, and then Atlanta,
Speaker 1: of all teams, drops twenty eight points on them. I
Speaker 1: think there might have been a defensive touchow. Which is
Speaker 1: which is funny is that people were making a big
Speaker 1: deal that the Buccaneers were nine and a half point
Speaker 1: favorites over the Steelers and it was like the biggest
Speaker 1: margin and that except if you go by the week before,
Speaker 1: I think the Packers were nine and a half points
Speaker 1: ahead of the Giants and they lost. And who would
Speaker 1: have thought the Packers would drop two in a row
Speaker 1: to to the two New York teams, which coming in
Speaker 1: the season nobody expected me. So, I mean there's there's
Speaker 1: a number of unusual results that didn't I mean some
Speaker 1: of them were not. I mean Denver continues to kind
Speaker 1: of play the same way every every week, which isn't
Speaker 1: very good. But um, a lot of teams, they're just
Speaker 1: it's hard to predict what's gonna happen. Well, back to
Speaker 1: about the Colts beat the Jaguars pretty handily when like
Speaker 1: three or four weeks ago they couldn't even score against
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Right, Who who has seen that coming? You don't.
Speaker 1: And that's what makes football so much fun, is that
Speaker 1: is that you're not really sure, but you know, back
Speaker 1: to well, Court winning has changes everything. Um, back to
Speaker 1: the original thread that you started with, Yeah, I understand,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I'm gonna take you back. I can
Speaker 1: win you back because I know what the first thing
Speaker 1: to to the part of I kept waiting for something
Speaker 1: to happen, and I totally agree with you. In fact,
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought, Okay, here's the two point conversion.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tied game. Great. When they didn't
Speaker 1: execute the two point conversion, I still wasn't overly done
Speaker 1: because I thought, yeah, this you're gonna get. It is
Speaker 1: gonna be won by a field goal. Not the prettiest game,
Speaker 1: but it's a w Let's get out of here, let's
Speaker 1: be happy. And um no, that did not happen. The
Speaker 1: third day owns long third downs, true struggle, and You've
Speaker 1: had a great stat on that, and I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: to it. I don't want to get I don't want
Speaker 1: to get too far into this podcast without talking about
Speaker 1: what was actually an extraordinarily good outcome and the most
Speaker 1: important outcome of that game. Cambray is Okay. I saw
Speaker 1: him yesterday in the hall, so he's not wearing a
Speaker 1: Britain neck brace or anything. He has a sprained neck
Speaker 1: and that's it the best I felt. As hard as
Speaker 1: that game was and and disappointing for Buck fans, you
Speaker 1: know around the world that you know it's a game
Speaker 1: you should have won, didn't as bummed out as I
Speaker 1: was sitting on the aircraft and waiting to come home.
Speaker 1: Seeing Cam get on the plane just put it all
Speaker 1: on perspective for me was like, Okay, great, It's like
Speaker 1: I said, it's great. That's the most important. Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is why I didn't want to wait too long to
Speaker 1: talk about it, because we're all so very happy about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know how long it's gonna be out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what's going forward. But anytime a guy stays
Speaker 1: down on his back, he was moving his legs and stuff,
Speaker 1: so it wasn't complete terror, but he tried to get up.
Speaker 1: In fact that you know, they said you Cam, stay down,
Speaker 1: stay neck injury, pay attention. Strapped. They didn't even take
Speaker 1: his helmet off because they took his face mask off
Speaker 1: that it can exhaust if you have some kind of
Speaker 1: neck problem that could lead to something very serious. They
Speaker 1: want to completely stabilize your neck, so they don't even
Speaker 1: take the helmet off. They just unscrew the face. Man
Speaker 1: strapped into that board, took him off the field on
Speaker 1: a card. He did wave and we found we got
Speaker 1: a report relatively quickly during the game that he was
Speaker 1: moving all his extremities and that he was going to
Speaker 1: he was at the hospital. Yeah, and you know at
Speaker 1: stadiums they have act ray machines and they but they
Speaker 1: took him immediately from the field into the ambulance to
Speaker 1: the hospital where he did have an m R I
Speaker 1: right away. So that was the most important. So we're
Speaker 1: all very happy about that. I guess we can get
Speaker 1: back to the game now. You were asking me to
Speaker 1: I think peat the stat of that. Yeah, you were
Speaker 1: talking about in lunch because I was, you know, well
Speaker 1: not only me, but a few of us were talking
Speaker 1: about the third and longs. It was infuriating. Obviously. It
Speaker 1: was the hardest part of that game to watch because
Speaker 1: you thought, you know, okay, this is it. You make
Speaker 1: a whole point. You get him into these long third downs.
Speaker 1: It's the whole point, and then you you should be
Speaker 1: able to stop them close to a hundred percent of
Speaker 1: the time. Third and eleven I believe there are two
Speaker 1: third and elevens, a third and thirteen, and a third
Speaker 1: and fifteen, all of them in a relatively in a row,
Speaker 1: all of them converted by Mitchell Trabinsky. Want to talk
Speaker 1: about him in a minute, Um, So that's four third
Speaker 1: down conversions. Of h eleven or more yards. So I have,
Speaker 1: amongst the many step pages that I keep for the team,
Speaker 1: I have since two thousand, so twenty three seasons worth.
Speaker 1: Now I have kept a chart that charts third down
Speaker 1: conversions by distance. Now, before we go any further, when
Speaker 1: did you start this chart? Two? So you've been doing
Speaker 1: this for I've been keeping stats a stat pack for
Speaker 1: the bucks PR department since once, since I was in it,
Speaker 1: and have through the years added a bunch of different ones.
Speaker 1: But the first time I started breaking down third downs
Speaker 1: into um one to three yards, four to six yards,
Speaker 1: seven to ten yards, eleven to twenty yards, and twenty
Speaker 1: one plus was in two thousand, so twenty three seasons worth,
Speaker 1: or twenty two and twenty two and almost a half
Speaker 1: season's worth. We have never in a single game given
Speaker 1: up four or third downs of eleven or more yards
Speaker 1: ever in that entire span. Wouldn't surprise me if we
Speaker 1: never did from seventy six through to either, because it's extraordinary,
Speaker 1: and it happened almost within the span of like five
Speaker 1: minutes in the two thousand two Super Bowl year we did.
Speaker 1: We allowed five of those conversions all year. It's just
Speaker 1: it never should have happened, and and and the last
Speaker 1: one was a great It was UNBELI the part, the
Speaker 1: part that Coach Bowles was mad about, and that one
Speaker 1: was that they lost contained and he was able to
Speaker 1: get out of pocket and by time and make that
Speaker 1: throw a remarkable play. Credit to those guys. Todd bole
Speaker 1: said that he knew specifically who messed up or didn't
Speaker 1: do the right assignment or didn't make the play, and
Speaker 1: there was a different guy in each before and and
Speaker 1: asked does that make it better or worse? And he
Speaker 1: said worse, Yeah, because if it's one guy, you can
Speaker 1: fix him. But if it's if it's more than one guy,
Speaker 1: then okay, what are we doing doing this? Yeah? Well
Speaker 1: you know what's what's the disconnect? But but Todd did
Speaker 1: say communications. So again that's that word that keeps cropping
Speaker 1: up and things aren't going right. And I guess that's
Speaker 1: when the communication enough, Scott, You're supposed to be over there,
Speaker 1: not over here. And through the first like three weeks
Speaker 1: of the season, one of the main stories was our
Speaker 1: defense was playing so great because the communication was so good.
Speaker 1: First two games, three games, I know, crazy, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I logan Ryan hasn't been to the last two games,
Speaker 1: but I have a hard time believing he's the crux
Speaker 1: of our communication. I mean, he might be, that might
Speaker 1: be part of the issue, could be, but not enough
Speaker 1: to cause all of this. I don't well yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: yeah it is. I um. I I thought the defense
Speaker 1: was always going to keep you in, but then when
Speaker 1: you really look at it, they kind of did. Because
Speaker 1: you know, they only scored twenty points. Well you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I mean, you only you we the
Speaker 1: Bucks scored eighteen, or the Bucks scored eighteen because you
Speaker 1: and I weren't on the field. But still, I'm always
Speaker 1: thinking that if our defense holds anybody to twenty points,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is gonna win. Over the course of the seasons,
Speaker 1: if we allowed twenty points a game, we probably won
Speaker 1: nine out of ten of those. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: think of the couple of New Orleans games that didn't
Speaker 1: go well, but generally if we lost, it was like
Speaker 1: I think there was a score of the Rams game
Speaker 1: in But it's weird to think that possibly and nobody
Speaker 1: and nobody was trying to hurt Canny pick it. But
Speaker 1: it's weird to think that possible if we hadn't injured
Speaker 1: Kenny pick It, we might have won the game because
Speaker 1: Tisky went off and it seemed like and if I
Speaker 1: was a Pittsburgh fan, I'd be pretty impressed with the
Speaker 1: way Pickett has played in his first two starts, and
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was doing quite well against us.
Speaker 1: But you look at the stats. He'd only thrown for
Speaker 1: sixty seven yards when he got hurt, and then Trabisky
Speaker 1: through like for a hundred forty four in like two seconds.
Speaker 1: Do you know that Mitchell Trabisky's passer rating against the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers in his career, because if remember you had the
Speaker 1: one big game on Thursday, the one that put him
Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl, a hundred fifty five point two,
Speaker 1: which is really close to perfect. That's his pass rating
Speaker 1: against the Bucks. Against everybody else he's played against, it's
Speaker 1: eighty four point three. And recall they decided to go
Speaker 1: to pick It a couple weeks ago because they were
Speaker 1: really struggling with Trabisky. He was struggling, offensive struggling. So
Speaker 1: the dude just comes back in and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's Joe Montana. Now, I mean, what's going on. He's
Speaker 1: got the numbers, got our number Yeah, there's been weird
Speaker 1: ones like that throughout the years, Like do you remember
Speaker 1: Wade Wilson. I can't believe you're saying it because he's
Speaker 1: with Minnesota and I was I was thinking about who
Speaker 1: was the court I was, I was you were talking.
Speaker 1: I was going, what was his name was Wade something? Which, also,
Speaker 1: by the way, is the name of Dead Pulls character
Speaker 1: in the movies. Real name is Wade Wilson. We made him.
Speaker 1: He has a good quarterback and he actually had I
Speaker 1: looked him up. He had. He ended up with a
Speaker 1: really long career that he also played for Dallas, but
Speaker 1: you mentioned mostly Minnesota. He had a good career, but
Speaker 1: he was just incredible against us. So like Mitch is
Speaker 1: like the new Wade Wilson or the guy for the
Speaker 1: rams Um and a couple of other teams that kept
Speaker 1: beating us earlier this decade, or in the in the
Speaker 1: case Keenum remember him? Oh yeah, Case Keenum was not
Speaker 1: a good NFL quarterback, but he was marvelous every time
Speaker 1: he faced us for some reason. So now it's Mitchell
Speaker 1: Trobisky that we have to avoid. So hopefully he stays
Speaker 1: there in Pittsburgh because we won't have to play them
Speaker 1: again for a long time unless we see him in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Yeah, which is unlikely of them or
Speaker 1: us them two and four in the a f C
Speaker 1: has Buffalo in Kansas City. But I but I will
Speaker 1: say that that you know, they did things that they
Speaker 1: needed to do to win, and I have very much
Speaker 1: so and and they're they're fans. Were I always like
Speaker 1: going to Heritage stadiums or Heritage clubs where the fans
Speaker 1: because there's when the Steelers had the ball, you could
Speaker 1: hear a pin drop m and just it was hard
Speaker 1: for you because you're you're in glass, but it is.
Speaker 1: And there's no prompting to tell them to be quiet.
Speaker 1: There's no nothing. That we got the ball. Let's be quiet.
Speaker 1: Our team's gonna score, or at least, in that case,
Speaker 1: attempt to score. Yes, that's good, good for them. We
Speaker 1: knew the Pittsburgh had good fans. That's well, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it's it's fun to go back to a good point,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying you made a good point. Did you
Speaker 1: know here's another little thing for Did you realize that
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh said didn't blitz the entire game? Yeah? I think,
Speaker 1: well I know that because you made that. Nobody was
Speaker 1: you something yeah, one time or one? So there were
Speaker 1: forty forty one dropbacks because he don't count the spike
Speaker 1: um to kill the clock on the last touchdown drive
Speaker 1: I think it was, but no, it was on the
Speaker 1: field goal drive before halftime. Right after. By the way,
Speaker 1: Ryan suck Up nailed a fifty four yard or which
Speaker 1: is as long as he's had for us. Ever, he
Speaker 1: didn't even try him on a fifty yard or last
Speaker 1: year maybe one. He's just in a groove, he is.
Speaker 1: He's been stellar. Knock on woods over there, yes, he
Speaker 1: But you know, it's interesting is that was the knock
Speaker 1: on him as he couldn't make the long ones. But
Speaker 1: if you go back before his injury, he was making
Speaker 1: the long and he's pretty advanced in his career at
Speaker 1: this point, so it's not surprising he's sort of falling
Speaker 1: in this profile of very accurate and dependable but not
Speaker 1: really the guys well anymore now that you know, and
Speaker 1: now everybody's going for fifty nine sixties. Chris wasn't even
Speaker 1: in Denver or anything like that. It was just just
Speaker 1: a good kick. It was Um and it's it's like
Speaker 1: it's like in baseball. When a picture is coming back
Speaker 1: from injury, then they call it stretching him out. Like
Speaker 1: the first time he goes out there, he might have
Speaker 1: like a fifty pitch pitch count or something, and then
Speaker 1: the next time you let him pitch a little longer
Speaker 1: until finally he's he's good to go for seven innings
Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, So maybe that's what they've done with Ryan.
Speaker 1: They you know, last year that essentially was off the
Speaker 1: table trying him on fifty plus. They just didn't do it.
Speaker 1: They just would just go for it. One time they
Speaker 1: used Bradley Pinion to try. When it was like fifty
Speaker 1: five or something. Ryan starts hitting all his forty yards.
Speaker 1: He's hitting forty four and forty five three times, forty
Speaker 1: seven three times are on nice sharing. Well, okay, maybe
Speaker 1: the next time we get in this spot. And really
Speaker 1: there was no decision to be made because it was
Speaker 1: there was three seconds laps and it's either that or
Speaker 1: a hail Mary, so you might as well try. But
Speaker 1: now you found out, okay, and next time, and because
Speaker 1: they scored that three points, I was like, okay, that's
Speaker 1: what I mean. It just never turned around. I kept
Speaker 1: waiting for something to happen. You know what else I
Speaker 1: kept for to happen. And I like somebody to explain
Speaker 1: to me where have all the turnovers gone? Where are they? You?
Speaker 1: Never you know you're you sit up there in the
Speaker 1: press flex or in the booth radio booth for you,
Speaker 1: and and there's always something goes man, this is really big,
Speaker 1: could really use one now. And it never happens when
Speaker 1: you probably never. It probably does happen sometimes, but you
Speaker 1: don't remember those. Well, we almost had him and just
Speaker 1: didn't get on him. Well, I would like to also
Speaker 1: know why the ball keeps bouncing right back to the
Speaker 1: fumbler every time it caused a fumble. Jamal makes that
Speaker 1: amazing huscle. I meant to look it up, and I
Speaker 1: forgot to because you asked me how fast he was?
Speaker 1: He He wasn't even in the picture. He was five
Speaker 1: yards behind before he started the chase and caught up
Speaker 1: to him. He was I'm sure that their return man
Speaker 1: is fast, and nobody else was gaining ground on him.
Speaker 1: And not only does he make the tackle, he almost
Speaker 1: got the ball out. He did get the ball out,
Speaker 1: did get the ground, and bounced right back to him.
Speaker 1: It could have easily bounced away, but it went like
Speaker 1: he was falling and came out of hands at the ground,
Speaker 1: r right back into it. Crazy, just like Mariotta last week,
Speaker 1: right Winfield had I think, but I guess that's the
Speaker 1: way the ball bounces. So not only the Buccaneers but everyone,
Speaker 1: we haven't turned it over. The last two games have
Speaker 1: featured zero turnovers by either team. Do you realize it's
Speaker 1: just a second time in team history that we've had
Speaker 1: two consecutive games that were neither team had a turnover
Speaker 1: the last The only other time was in two really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I looked it up. She's it just doesn't happen that often,
Speaker 1: no turnovers at all in the whole game. And then
Speaker 1: to do it two weeks in a row, and you
Speaker 1: start to feel like you're in a drought. I know
Speaker 1: coaches always say they come in bunches, but sometimes it
Speaker 1: seems like they You hit a drought too. Yeah, big time.
Speaker 1: I mean one turnover could have made the difference in
Speaker 1: it that. I think that in that particular game. And
Speaker 1: for if you know you're a Pittsburgh Steeler fan listening
Speaker 1: to us because you just want to see us bemoan
Speaker 1: this this game, Um, you know, same for them. One
Speaker 1: play made the difference, and unfortunately they did make that
Speaker 1: play that that needed to be really the one play
Speaker 1: when you look back at it now, that was the
Speaker 1: real problem, was the forty four yard or by their
Speaker 1: their rookie tight end, because we had a bust because
Speaker 1: it was another instance of some kind of substitution issues
Speaker 1: and we were trying to get feat I think, and
Speaker 1: maybe another player off the field. And the best about that,
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't it's not good that you have
Speaker 1: twelve men on the field. But to see the big
Speaker 1: man run as fast as he did and then jump
Speaker 1: up in the air like he's like, yeah, I'm above
Speaker 1: the field. Uh So Lavante noticing this, which is good
Speaker 1: that he did, and he tries to call it time out,
Speaker 1: but in the process the coverage got busted. Nobody covered
Speaker 1: the tight end. I don't know if the guys thought
Speaker 1: they were going to get the time out and didn't
Speaker 1: react quickly enough for what But he's just wide open.
Speaker 1: It was really the only big play of the game
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, and but it was enough. It led
Speaker 1: to the winning touchdown like two plays later, so that
Speaker 1: I'm sure as they watch the tape they're just shaking
Speaker 1: their heads because it yeah, and it it just it
Speaker 1: just didn't feel right. You know, if you're in a
Speaker 1: real dog fight, you know, and it happens, you go, wow,
Speaker 1: what a game, you know, just what a game. It
Speaker 1: was a battle, you know. It just it just didn't
Speaker 1: it just didn't seem right from the very very beginning.
Speaker 1: And I'm not really but it didn't change. I kept
Speaker 1: waiting for change. Yeah, no it's and oh, by the way, Scott,
Speaker 1: it's not changing at all. It didn't change particular game. No,
Speaker 1: it won't change. It is what it is at this point. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting is talking with Todd Bowles. He
Speaker 1: like he was saying during the week, you know, practice
Speaker 1: has been going really really well, you know, and you're
Speaker 1: watching especially in situations. Well I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: sometimes we get to see those and you feel comfortable
Speaker 1: with it. Um, but it just the red zone or it.
Speaker 1: I am still frustrated that you're six inches away from
Speaker 1: the goal line. And I'm sure they are too, but
Speaker 1: you would think, you know, fall forward whatever. But I
Speaker 1: wonder about and I'm going to have to do the
Speaker 1: caveats like I did last week. I'm generally not a
Speaker 1: big fan of second guessing play calo and that I
Speaker 1: think we tend to do that too much if we
Speaker 1: don't like the results. Well, I'm not necessarily second guessing it.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you would think at six inches. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I'm about to say something for which I
Speaker 1: am adding a caveat first. Nobody so nobody thinks so
Speaker 1: when the football, So when the football that you're we're
Speaker 1: still good. So when the football side, um, if they
Speaker 1: happen to hear when they when they listen to the
Speaker 1: salty victors, well you would first, you would. I would
Speaker 1: acknowledge that in no way would I ever think I
Speaker 1: had no more about play calling or football than Byron
Speaker 1: left Wage or Top Bowls or anybody with you. And
Speaker 1: I also acknowledge that most of the times that we
Speaker 1: don't like play calls, it's simply that we don't like
Speaker 1: the results. Yeah, I just didn't understand. So I won't
Speaker 1: even say what was wrong, but I would like it.
Speaker 1: I would like to hear why when we were at
Speaker 1: the goal line we brought in that huge jumble package
Speaker 1: with like three tight ends and an extra tackle and
Speaker 1: Fred Johnson and no receivers and one running back. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you're doing anything out of that other
Speaker 1: than running. So they're gonna put in their jumbo guys
Speaker 1: and everybody's gonna bash into each other in a power struggle.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't feel to me like power struggles. And
Speaker 1: the trenches have been our best thing this year, like
Speaker 1: third and ones that we that where we haven't been
Speaker 1: able to get liney across the line stuff like that. Right, So,
Speaker 1: and it didn't work. They lost three yards, So now
Speaker 1: certain four and you have to pass and then Tom
Speaker 1: Brady gets sacked and you're right, we're six inches from
Speaker 1: the goal and we're settling for three points. Back to
Speaker 1: what you were saying is that it was the execution
Speaker 1: because I guess if you watch that particular play, you
Speaker 1: can see where a block got uh yeah, is beat
Speaker 1: and you can see it. It's obvious and so but
Speaker 1: still that's that's happening too often. Correct, And so it
Speaker 1: double fold one the play calling, no question about it.
Speaker 1: It would have worked if it would have been executed.
Speaker 1: Your thought process is, we're not executing it right now,
Speaker 1: So why are you going to do something that we
Speaker 1: were doing exactly exactly? So, so, yes, but although we really.
Speaker 1: You know, we were four for four in the red
Speaker 1: zone against Kansas City, but the last two games were
Speaker 1: like two for seven or something, and and and Tyde
Speaker 1: Boles is acknowledging that's something we've got to get fixed.
Speaker 1: We gotta figure out what we do well in the
Speaker 1: red zone and do it better. Yeah. I mean even
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was talking about it that, you know, his
Speaker 1: the frustration of not not executing it, and you know
Speaker 1: he's the quarterback, of course, is frustrating, way more frustrating
Speaker 1: for he had a pretty good line because they were
Speaker 1: talking about his conversation on the sideline with his old line,
Speaker 1: yelling about let's go and what's going on, and he
Speaker 1: said that it's never good when there's uh more f
Speaker 1: bombs than touchdowns and so but uh an interesting aspect
Speaker 1: of that. You know, people talk about players getting uh.
Speaker 1: In this particular instance, tom Brady really getting emotionally with
Speaker 1: his old line, and people take that as well, you
Speaker 1: know that you can't do that, And he was discussing
Speaker 1: it about you know, when do you do that? Do
Speaker 1: you do it if you plays in, do you do
Speaker 1: it at halftime? You know there's this depending it's a feel,
Speaker 1: but he also says when he's doing that, when he's saying, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go, You're better than this, we gotta get it done,
Speaker 1: he's also doing that to help motivate himself, which I
Speaker 1: thought was interesting that it's not finger pointing at them,
Speaker 1: it's finger pointing at all of us to say, hey,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you have to handle it that
Speaker 1: way or you're gonna lose your guys. Yeah. Um, but
Speaker 1: I mean I would be willing to bet that all
Speaker 1: those linemen were understood and weren't weren't offended. They understood that.
Speaker 1: Everybody's frustrated. But but that's but see, that's the take. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the take is I'm blaming you. You're not you know,
Speaker 1: it's your fault, not mine. And that wasn't the case,
Speaker 1: which kind of falls into because everybody fell into the
Speaker 1: chapter of uh, Tom Brady was not uh was excused
Speaker 1: for the walkthrough. Yeah, A question about that kind of Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll get into that then later because I have a
Speaker 1: I have a thought. Yeah, I do have a point
Speaker 1: of view on that. Okay, save it, I will. Um.
Speaker 1: I forgot to mention when we were talking about Logan
Speaker 1: Ryan that we have a little bit of breaking news. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I when you said that as yeah, go ahead, we're
Speaker 1: putting them on into reserve. I know I was going
Speaker 1: to say something, but then I was like, oh, do
Speaker 1: we can I say that? Well, by the time we
Speaker 1: release this tomorrow more because it's happening today. They did
Speaker 1: not announce a core responding move. Wouldn't shock me if
Speaker 1: it's like maybe sign signing Nolan Turner from the practice squad,
Speaker 1: I mean we did. Um, he could go back though
Speaker 1: he can be eligible for who Logan Ryan. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: has to miss a minimum of FO four games, so
Speaker 1: he's missed two already. Obviously, they weren't happy with the
Speaker 1: way that the injury to his foot was progressing, and
Speaker 1: they figure it to be out for at least four more,
Speaker 1: so they put him on injury reserve. Um. It's funny
Speaker 1: because along these lines like chem Hicks is now missed
Speaker 1: four games but was not put on injury reserve. Uh.
Speaker 1: I feel like when coaches asked about these things, the
Speaker 1: point of view from the media is if a guy
Speaker 1: is not put on injury reserve but then misses four
Speaker 1: or more games, yeah, you made a mistake somehow, Well,
Speaker 1: why did we need to put a chem Hicks on
Speaker 1: injury reserve. We didn't have anybody we were trying to
Speaker 1: add to the active roster, which is the point you
Speaker 1: open up a spot by putting them in i R
Speaker 1: and then you can sign somebody else. But we weren't
Speaker 1: looking to do that. We'd already elevated Dedrons in and
Speaker 1: he's actually played relatively well in his like twenty snaps game.
Speaker 1: So every time that a guy like last year was
Speaker 1: gronk in the back and he ended up missing I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe like five games, six games, never put
Speaker 1: him an i R. Well, sometimes you think you're making
Speaker 1: educated that he'll come back in three or four and
Speaker 1: it just doesn't work out. It would be worse. They
Speaker 1: come back to you two weeks they and go, hi,
Speaker 1: I feel good. Yeah, well sorry, you're sitting for two
Speaker 1: and it's like you said, it's not like they have
Speaker 1: someone they really need to bring in. We'd all love
Speaker 1: for Chemicks to come back. Um, yeah, because he looks
Speaker 1: so he was a training camp. And then there's a
Speaker 1: couple of first couple of games. You're you saw that
Speaker 1: surge that defences was very good in Dallas when he
Speaker 1: played the whole game. So I think that's I probably
Speaker 1: that's uh the most frustrating part. And well, injuries are
Speaker 1: always frustrating. But you just haven't seen the team you
Speaker 1: thought you were going to see, or you haven't seen
Speaker 1: the purse that maybe I should say this, you haven't
Speaker 1: seen the personnel that you thought you were going to
Speaker 1: see when training camp started. Yeah, that's the story of
Speaker 1: the NFL. You have to find a way to get
Speaker 1: to manage I mean Pittsburgh one without all those guys
Speaker 1: in the secondary. You gotta find a way. Um. But
Speaker 1: I was going to say, well, we were talking about
Speaker 1: the third downs, um, and if I would be willing
Speaker 1: to bet that if you pulled a hundred Buccaneers fans
Speaker 1: and asked him, I, have things been going well on
Speaker 1: third and one, they would say no, and and that
Speaker 1: it would include Todd Bowles because he has said on
Speaker 1: a couple occasions at the podium in recent days that
Speaker 1: we have to find a way to make one yard
Speaker 1: that which is clearly and and that was my my point,
Speaker 1: clearly an allusion to the fact that we've had third
Speaker 1: and one from So this is what I was saying
Speaker 1: to you. You. I think I may have already told you.
Speaker 1: So you won't be shocked, but I think most people listening,
Speaker 1: if they've been watching the books games, will be shocked
Speaker 1: to find out that the Buckners are actually above average
Speaker 1: on third and one conversion rate this season. It's something
Speaker 1: like six scent in the league, everages out fifty something
Speaker 1: you would. I don't know, I remember, I didn't write
Speaker 1: down the exact numbers. We're also above average on third
Speaker 1: downs from third and one to third and three. So
Speaker 1: the problem here is, I mean, but that doesn't But
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say that I don't think it's
Speaker 1: an issue, and I think it clearly is because the
Speaker 1: coach himself is bringing it up. Yeah, it's just that
Speaker 1: I would not have thought. There were a couple of
Speaker 1: times that game where we made a third and short,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember them. What I remember are the
Speaker 1: ones we didn't make, and it feels like there's been
Speaker 1: a ton of them lately, like in the Atlanta game,
Speaker 1: the very first one, the Leonard Fournett didn't work third
Speaker 1: and one run and then I think we got stopped
Speaker 1: on fourth. Now, however, there were three more third and
Speaker 1: ones in that game, and rashod Why converted all of them.
Speaker 1: But does anybody remember that. And I'm not getting on
Speaker 1: anybody's case. I'm just saying that's how the mind works.
Speaker 1: Oh well, so the problem acknowledging that it is a
Speaker 1: problem because we have to because the coach says it is.
Speaker 1: We can also see, well, they should be able to
Speaker 1: get that fixed because they actually have converted on an
Speaker 1: above average percentage of third ones in third and one
Speaker 1: to three. So clearly the answer is there and they
Speaker 1: should be able to get that fixed. It's just maybe
Speaker 1: it's just because it seems like they have happened at
Speaker 1: inopportunity moments. Yeah, I think that's what it is. When
Speaker 1: you needed it most, it didn't happen. So and and
Speaker 1: of course that frustration that the goal line was actually
Speaker 1: a second down and it made it like a third vibe,
Speaker 1: and then we had the sack um so we were
Speaker 1: only one of four in the red zone. That's an
Speaker 1: issue more situational football. And as you were saying alluding
Speaker 1: to about practices going, well, you have every team, just
Speaker 1: about every team, I've board four here, every coach, they
Speaker 1: all pay a lot of attention to situational football. That's
Speaker 1: why most practices have a red zone period, a third
Speaker 1: a short yardage period, a blitz period, a third down period.
Speaker 1: That's why they know that those coaches no better than anybody.
Speaker 1: That high percentage of games in the NFL are like
Speaker 1: the ones with Bucks just lost, where it's close and
Speaker 1: it turns on one team or the other making to
Speaker 1: play in the key situation, usually something like goal line
Speaker 1: or two minutes drill, and that's how you win games.
Speaker 1: They're all gonna be close and you're gonna win in
Speaker 1: the key situations. So they practice them like crazy, and
Speaker 1: coach thinks has been going well in practice and that's
Speaker 1: why they like to practice against other teams during training camp. Now,
Speaker 1: while I gave you um surprising numbers on third down, short,
Speaker 1: third and shorts, uh, the numbers do back up that
Speaker 1: red zones in issue because the Buccaneers have only made
Speaker 1: touched on exactly of the red zone trip so far,
Speaker 1: and that's twenty in the league. And that has been
Speaker 1: a strength for us in the past. Uh. Last year
Speaker 1: we were second in the league and reads untouchdown percentage
Speaker 1: at sixty six point two, and in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: year we were actually better at sixty nine percent, although
Speaker 1: that ranked seven. But still if you recall I remember
Speaker 1: that year started out with something like twenty three straight
Speaker 1: gold of Gold drives on which they scored touchdowns, which
Speaker 1: I still at the time was amazed. I would tweet
Speaker 1: it after every time it happened because I still couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it. We went like seven eight games in the
Speaker 1: season without failing once. Do you think you become spoiled? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure? Are you really? We all are another? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is crazy. You know, I'm not. I know you're
Speaker 1: all about stats and everything, but I did see something
Speaker 1: where I like stats set back up the things that
Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, Um that we're Tom Brady through Week six.
Speaker 1: His passing rating is a ninety five point one and
Speaker 1: he's seventh in the league. That's amazing. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, there's a shocking that I do have some stats.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that would rank seventh. Yeah, that ranks seventh.
Speaker 1: And um, it's not far okay. So and and and
Speaker 1: here big time big time throws. Where do you think
Speaker 1: he ranks on big time throws? So? Can you tell
Speaker 1: about the definition of big times? I'm not really sure.
Speaker 1: It's from Pro Football Reference. It says, um, well, big
Speaker 1: time throws. Are we talking like air yards. It's his
Speaker 1: twelve big time throws. Twelve big time throws. I know
Speaker 1: that he has thrown the ball successfully down the seams.
Speaker 1: This is from I think from next gen sets. Uh,
Speaker 1: I think the most of any quarterback, like the one
Speaker 1: to Chris Godwin for twenty yards in the Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 1: I don't know what a big time throws, but I
Speaker 1: would say I would say ranks third. Wow, you're good,
Speaker 1: he's second. Second. Yeah, I mean the plays are there,
Speaker 1: they're being made, but they weren't made. And and let's
Speaker 1: let's be honest here. That game in Pittsburgh was not
Speaker 1: Tom's best game. No, No, And in three weeks six
Speaker 1: he's got a sixty seven point two percent completion, which
Speaker 1: gives it's fifth in the league. Yeah, and I know
Speaker 1: he's been That's not Tom Brady. What do you mean,
Speaker 1: because he plays at this he's his whole career, he's
Speaker 1: played at this such an elevated level. But you just
Speaker 1: said he was I know, but if you if you
Speaker 1: watch him, you're thinking all that he's not playing very well,
Speaker 1: because that was the whole conversation about him not being
Speaker 1: around that. No, it wasn't, it wasn't. He was sixty
Speaker 1: five percent in that one, and he was under at halftime. Um,
Speaker 1: I think there were some misthrows. I mean, yeah, oh no,
Speaker 1: there were. I mean he there were up we would be.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he is probably just shaking his head because
Speaker 1: he could. He knows where it should have gone, and
Speaker 1: he didn't get it there for whatever reason. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: one that really got me was the miss to Russell
Speaker 1: Gauge in the end zone because it was a touchdown. Well,
Speaker 1: because I thought Tom Brady did everything really well on
Speaker 1: that play. For most of that play, he did a
Speaker 1: good job of evading the pressure. He moved up a
Speaker 1: little bit and out to the right and and bought
Speaker 1: time and then and he doesn't do that a lot,
Speaker 1: but this was a key situation. Found found time and
Speaker 1: actually had a wide open lane no defenders between him
Speaker 1: and where he was going to throw the ball. I
Speaker 1: think he found the right guy. I think Gauge had
Speaker 1: enough separation, not much, but enough that if Tom puts
Speaker 1: it in the vicinity, not doesn't have to be writ
Speaker 1: in his chest, but close, he's I'm gonna catch it.
Speaker 1: Like a couple of weeks ago, remember when Russell Gage
Speaker 1: had to kind of make that spinning, catching the ends
Speaker 1: up behind him. But he said afterwards that's the only
Speaker 1: place that Tom could throw that, otherwise I would have
Speaker 1: got killed. And so times extraordinarily good at this and
Speaker 1: for some reason on that play he threw the ball
Speaker 1: at Russell's feet. I mean times, I can make every play, No,
Speaker 1: but you expect him to you do. And that's that's
Speaker 1: what goes back to what you're saying about being It
Speaker 1: is just you quarterbacks are gonna have some games that
Speaker 1: are better than others, some are worse than others, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna have some players are better than others. But
Speaker 1: we're spoiled because he's been so but it's Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: So I mean, still, who do you think Tom Brady's
Speaker 1: gonna go out next week and have a great game?
Speaker 1: I do, I do, Yeah, I think I still think
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a good year. I do too. Really,
Speaker 1: it hasn't come together as down as everybody is. I think.
Speaker 1: I think what happens is like anything else. It's not
Speaker 1: only last Sunday's game. But if I'm if my math
Speaker 1: is correct, ah, losing three out of the last four games,
Speaker 1: it's just like really, that's why I mean that's that's
Speaker 1: where you go. What, Yeah, that's why because now place first,
Speaker 1: and really the only thing the Eagles are six and
Speaker 1: oh they're they're probably I mean, the odds of them
Speaker 1: winning the top seed are pretty high at this point.
Speaker 1: They're playing a tough division. The Giants are five and one,
Speaker 1: but I can't say I'm totally sold yet. And then
Speaker 1: it's just kind of a muddled middle, and the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: are tied for first. I think just about any analysts
Speaker 1: out there would say, who do you think from this
Speaker 1: point is going to win the division? You know, because
Speaker 1: we're tied with Atlanta who may be playing a little
Speaker 1: over their head or maybe they're they're better than expected,
Speaker 1: that certain, but um I would we already have a
Speaker 1: win over them, and it was it was it was here,
Speaker 1: but we already have a win over them. We already
Speaker 1: have it went over New Orleans. Well, how crazy it's
Speaker 1: going to be if the last game of the year
Speaker 1: is going to be one because that that's in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: In case you don't have your skin, that one would
Speaker 1: that would remind me of Although it was here in
Speaker 1: Atlanta the two thousand, the Super Bowl year when the
Speaker 1: Bucks were playing the Falcons, like the first week in
Speaker 1: December and the Bucks had had either the or tied
Speaker 1: for the best record in the NFC. Atlanta hadn't lost
Speaker 1: a game for like seven weeks. There was a tie
Speaker 1: in there, but they hadn't lost like seven weeks. Michael
Speaker 1: Vick was the emerging superstar at the league and it
Speaker 1: was such a great matchup that the commissioner came down
Speaker 1: I remember, and it was the game where Derrick Brooks
Speaker 1: completely shut down Michael Vick. Remember afterwards, Warren step was saying,
Speaker 1: who know its like he put a he put a
Speaker 1: speed limit, it was fifty five, called him sheriff. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole defense was great, but Derek Brooks
Speaker 1: in particular was the one who had shut down Michael Vicks.
Speaker 1: So maybe we could have another instant classic like that. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully you're tied up before you get down there.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we don't have to play for first place but
Speaker 1: the good But but you know, with all the doom
Speaker 1: and gloom and everybody you know figuring this all out
Speaker 1: right now, it's you know, you're six games in, you're
Speaker 1: at five hundred, You've beaten the two teams you played
Speaker 1: in your division, and you've got one coming up this week,
Speaker 1: so you can at least get hopefully you knocked the
Speaker 1: next three e get you know, Carolina Panthers, you take
Speaker 1: them off. I'm not looking any fun out right, but
Speaker 1: I but I will say this, this is a long stretch.
Speaker 1: You know, people were talking about the first four games
Speaker 1: being a long stretch. This is a tough stretch because
Speaker 1: you play on Sunday, then you play Thursday, then you
Speaker 1: play a four game at home against the Rams, and
Speaker 1: then you're going to Germany. So it's gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of crazy in the next few weeks. Hopefully there's a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of w that's all that matters. Well, that
Speaker 1: makes everything so much easier. That's very very true, very true.
Speaker 1: So what else you got in there? Well, no patents,
Speaker 1: There a couple of things we were talking about getting
Speaker 1: um spoiled. We're gonna look back at if even if
Speaker 1: we're not working here anymore, say ten years down the road,
Speaker 1: we'll probably still be watching the books, right, always watch
Speaker 1: the bus. So we're gonna realize how spoiled we were
Speaker 1: to have Mike Evans and Chris Godwin together first, So
Speaker 1: long do you realize that Chris gotten. So Mike Evans
Speaker 1: is by far and away the Bucks leader in receiving
Speaker 1: yards with nine thousand, five or six and fifty nine,
Speaker 1: but Chris Godwin at four thousand, eight ninety three is
Speaker 1: thirty six yards away from passing Kevin House, one of
Speaker 1: the big names of franchise history, for third, and about
Speaker 1: a hundred and after that ninety more like a hundred
Speaker 1: twenty six yards away from passing Mark Carrier. That could
Speaker 1: happen this week, who had five thousand and eight and
Speaker 1: five thousand and eighteen, And when that happens, we'll have
Speaker 1: the two leading receivers in franchise history at the same time.
Speaker 1: And they're both still good. You know, it's not Mike's
Speaker 1: and it's like ninth season now, So it's it's weird
Speaker 1: to stop thinking of him as a young player. We
Speaker 1: were talking about this the other day. Still feels like
Speaker 1: he's a young player. He's still very good and got
Speaker 1: many good years left, but he's not a young player.
Speaker 1: We know. What's it's interesting is in that game after
Speaker 1: the game was we're with the question was why was
Speaker 1: it Mike Evans targeted more? And Todd Bowles was talking
Speaker 1: that you know they had him double teamed, and so
Speaker 1: what needed to happen was to hit the other people.
Speaker 1: But he also acknowledged in a in an overall sense
Speaker 1: that we need to get the ball in Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: no question, and I think there were some times in
Speaker 1: that game where Mike kind of Mike. They pressed him
Speaker 1: a little and Mike kind of free release. He's so
Speaker 1: good at that. If he beats that press and gets
Speaker 1: to the outside, he throws his hand up hoping that
Speaker 1: mats him down the sideline, which we've seen multiple times
Speaker 1: this year, and I'm sure we'll see more. But we
Speaker 1: really weren't hitting that in that game or trying, And
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was maybe too quick
Speaker 1: a pressure or or he he wasn't the first reading
Speaker 1: time went with the first read or something. But I
Speaker 1: think there were some opportunities that were missing. We're missing.
Speaker 1: We're also I we're gonna be getting spoiled by having
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield on this team too. I mean, I I
Speaker 1: at this point, I think he's the best defensive player
Speaker 1: I would I would agree. I think he's Yes, no question,
Speaker 1: I know Vidave makes a huge impact in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. That told Trump in the stat sheet. But
Speaker 1: I think I think it's Winfield. Man. He just makes
Speaker 1: big plays every game. He moves from side to He's
Speaker 1: so good. He's instinctive and fat. He gets somewhere fast,
Speaker 1: and he tackles well when he gets there. So he's
Speaker 1: got three sacks already. Do you here's some staff that
Speaker 1: will blow your mind? Okay? So, uh, Anton Winfield has
Speaker 1: eight point oh sacks. This is his third season or
Speaker 1: six games into his third season, um eight point oh sacks.
Speaker 1: He's the only defensive back in the NFL with multiple
Speaker 1: sacks in each of the past three seasons. So eight
Speaker 1: point out. How close do you think he is to
Speaker 1: taking over the all time lead for the Buccaneers and
Speaker 1: sacks by a safety by a safety? Yeah, gosh, I'm
Speaker 1: not even I have known momently. Just throw a number five,
Speaker 1: you think he's five more. He's already got the record
Speaker 1: by two. Really, John Lynch was a previous record. That's
Speaker 1: what I was thinking. John had six. I thought he
Speaker 1: had more. I mean he did have more when he
Speaker 1: got to Denver. No wait, wait, John Lynch only had
Speaker 1: six six sexes. We didn't blitz him a lot. Well,
Speaker 1: that's true. He when he gets more of the I
Speaker 1: T guy. So interceptions he was more, you know, he
Speaker 1: was more the heavy hitter. Yeah, well that's true. Anymore
Speaker 1: he couldn't would find a way to apply. That's what
Speaker 1: That's what he always says. He would have adjusted. He's
Speaker 1: a very smart guy. Yeah, no, no questions. Six point Now.
Speaker 1: I feel like my memories, if memory serves, I think
Speaker 1: when he got to Denver, they did use him four
Speaker 1: around the line of scrimmage, and he had more sacks.
Speaker 1: He tacked on a decent amount of sex. But four
Speaker 1: years there, three years in, he's already got the record,
Speaker 1: the record, and it's going and it's growing. It's not
Speaker 1: like he got it and I'm retiring. So, as I've
Speaker 1: been saying all along, I thought he has a shot
Speaker 1: at a pl Pro first team safety, which would be
Speaker 1: the first time since John Lynch. And um, he's he
Speaker 1: can get there if he keeps putting up these numbers
Speaker 1: he needs. He only has one interception so far. He
Speaker 1: needs a few more of those. But if he really
Speaker 1: gets like five sacks and five picks, I think he's
Speaker 1: got it. There you go, Well, hopefully, uh he gets
Speaker 1: he just keeps making plays. Man, he gets a couple
Speaker 1: of this game, Hello, Baker Mayfield. Maybe maybe that's why
Speaker 1: I'm saying, maybe you know what I'm saying, Maybe you
Speaker 1: don't think he'll play well. He they're definitely uncertain. As
Speaker 1: the week begins, and he was still in a boot,
Speaker 1: I believe, on the sideline. He was on the sideline.
Speaker 1: He was still a walking boot on a week of
Speaker 1: you know, seven days beforehand, and when he got the
Speaker 1: highchaol sprain. The initial reports I'm not sure the team
Speaker 1: specifically said this, but the initial reports reports or that
Speaker 1: he was expected him as several weeks. You don't usually
Speaker 1: come back from a high ankles. So then p J Walker,
Speaker 1: because Sam Donald's on, I R. P J. Walker goes in,
Speaker 1: uh and he's you know, p J Walker. I mean,
Speaker 1: but he he gets hurt, he hurts his neck. Like
Speaker 1: he has said since that he thinks he'll be able
Speaker 1: to play. So maybe the Bucks will be facing him,
Speaker 1: whoever they face. I I always prefer when the Bucks
Speaker 1: face the starting quarterback because weird things happen. Weird things
Speaker 1: always happen. I'm just you know, the backup always does
Speaker 1: something crazy. It was the backup that beat us in
Speaker 1: this last game. I understand. That's what I was alluding
Speaker 1: to without saying it out loud. What was I looking for?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You have so many papers. Oh, I
Speaker 1: know I look for. I wanted to see their sack rate.
Speaker 1: So Carolina on offense this year is thirtieth in the league.
Speaker 1: They're allowing they're they're allowing a lot of sacks, so
Speaker 1: that's good news. So I'd also like to see Shack
Speaker 1: kind of get get going a little bit again too. Yes, Joe,
Speaker 1: Joe has made a few players in the last couple
Speaker 1: of games. Slash yeah if you um okay. One other
Speaker 1: thing that I have seen around the NFL a lot
Speaker 1: in recent weeks and I want to go away is
Speaker 1: the gritty. I'm tired of the gritty. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. No, that's that dance that a lot
Speaker 1: of guys doing. I can't even do it. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people listening, I don't know, Yes,
Speaker 1: a lot of people listening or no, are gonna know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking I know it, And it's like everybody's
Speaker 1: doing the gritty. It's not even yet, it's not original.
Speaker 1: Just I think a quarter one order back that it
Speaker 1: was Zach Wilson or something. Come on, man, no more
Speaker 1: of a gritty I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it.
Speaker 1: It looks like a little kid dance. Well it is
Speaker 1: a little kid dance. Okay, well then let the kids
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, it's okay. Get off my lawn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's get off my lawn. Yeah. Here, as long as
Speaker 1: we're on the topic of get off my lawn. You
Speaker 1: you forgot you were going to try to push my
Speaker 1: buttons with a specific word today. Remember I was gonna
Speaker 1: help me out. What did I do irregardless? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because I was holding court the other way? I see
Speaker 1: the podcast not over with yet, so you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: thought of it. I always just you know what, you're right, uh, regardless?
Speaker 1: I would have tried I was. I was holding court
Speaker 1: the other day after a press about how irregardless is
Speaker 1: like one of the most useless words in the English language. Literally,
Speaker 1: if you look up the in the dictionary the word
Speaker 1: irregardless that the definition is regardless. So just say regardless.
Speaker 1: But it sounds better. It does not. It sounds like
Speaker 1: it sounds pretentious. It sounds like you're trying to be
Speaker 1: smarter than you are. I'm not saying you or anybody,
Speaker 1: that's what it sounds like. That's right, your regardless. Don't
Speaker 1: use that word everyone, And this is my public service announcement. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you were fired up over that. I was not in
Speaker 1: a in a in a friendly way. I just found
Speaker 1: out that Joe try on showing because middle name is
Speaker 1: showgun Shogun, showgun showgun like h g u n Yeah,
Speaker 1: Samurai Samurai just out there. So the Panthers. Moving on
Speaker 1: to the Panthers, well we can. We just kind of
Speaker 1: did when we started talking about their quarterbacks. Whoever's playing quarterback,
Speaker 1: it will not be throwing the ball to Robbie Anderson
Speaker 1: because about that that he got thrown off the field,
Speaker 1: and well, I don't think I think they were already
Speaker 1: going to trade him. Well I think that it wasn't
Speaker 1: like they you know, went okay, because I think they
Speaker 1: got close to a trade and said pull him off
Speaker 1: the field. So he doesn't get he was yelling at
Speaker 1: all the coaches, So what they weren't negotiaing the trade
Speaker 1: in the middle of the game. I'm sure somewhere down
Speaker 1: the line they were close. Well, it came to a
Speaker 1: head because Mark's Brown got hurt and maybe off for
Speaker 1: the year for the Cardinals, so they needed something and
Speaker 1: Marky's Brown was actually having a pretty good year even
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals are not. But it was already heavily
Speaker 1: rumored they were gonna try. But what's what's crazy? As
Speaker 1: they threw him off the field and then he went
Speaker 1: to the podium, I know, right what it's an unusual
Speaker 1: usually when that happens, But I guess that's you know,
Speaker 1: if if a player gets thrown off the field, I mean,
Speaker 1: I would want to talk to him. So props to
Speaker 1: Carolina pr for getting them up there, because it's not easy.
Speaker 1: Maybe they figured didn't matter since they knew he was
Speaker 1: gonna get traded. Well there's that too, but I'm just yeah,
Speaker 1: but still but still, you know, you know too, unless
Speaker 1: he really wanted to go up there, you know, you
Speaker 1: know how sometimes you have to talk to a player
Speaker 1: and say, hey, you really need to talk right now,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You know, so, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just thought it was kind of weird. But they're there.
Speaker 1: They're in a transitional period right now. They in the
Speaker 1: Carolina PA. You're hoping, at least for for our purposes
Speaker 1: since we still have two games. They still don't get it.
Speaker 1: They don't get it together until well, no, that you
Speaker 1: hope that they that the trade of Robbie Anderson was
Speaker 1: just the beginning and they're going to try to tear
Speaker 1: this thing down to the studs and just give as
Speaker 1: much draft capital as possible because they're probably gonna start
Speaker 1: with a new head coach next year. I would be.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be surprising if they stuck with Steve Wilkes.
Speaker 1: I think they'll go in another Well, don't they need
Speaker 1: draft picks because didn't they give up some for they
Speaker 1: gave up something for Baker? But what about Donaldson? When
Speaker 1: did they give up for him? Donald Donald? I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but I think they gave or did they are they'd
Speaker 1: already go by I don't know. But anyways, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's you know, organizations had a head
Speaker 1: coach for three years. He's gone. We were just talking
Speaker 1: about him a few weeks ago, and he's gone. So
Speaker 1: now all the things that he thought we're going to
Speaker 1: take the team to the next level is thrown out
Speaker 1: and you're starting over again, as you just said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think they're in in a spot to start
Speaker 1: over because they and they're not particularly good right now,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't mean that they were definitely gonna beat him.
Speaker 1: So it's not bolton board material, but they just haven't played. No.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if if you listen to the Salty
Speaker 1: Dogs to get fired up for a game, there's not
Speaker 1: a whole lot that, at least statistically, the Panthers have
Speaker 1: done well to this point. On either side of the ball.
Speaker 1: They have the they're gaining the fewest yards in the league.
Speaker 1: Is McCaffrey back. McCaffrey's back, and he's good. He's the guy.
Speaker 1: He's the guy. He's another guy. There's trade rummors about those,
Speaker 1: so you never know. Wow, yeah, they he's been there,
Speaker 1: real you know, workhorse, and he's of course he's had
Speaker 1: his injuries. But you know, if he's playing, they got
Speaker 1: a chance because he does some pretty spectacular things, you know.
Speaker 1: But surprisingly or maybe not surprisingly, but the Buccaneers have
Speaker 1: actually handled him better than most teams. Of course, a
Speaker 1: run defense isn't quite as good as it has been
Speaker 1: in recent years, but it's not just run defense against him,
Speaker 1: because he catches a lot of past. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: like last in yards. Uh, this is the last in
Speaker 1: time of possession, sounds like last week last in third
Speaker 1: down percentage point. That's not good. It sacks allowed, the third,
Speaker 1: last second lass and passing yards per play. I mean
Speaker 1: it's just up and down. And in the offense there
Speaker 1: twenty one in yards they're tied for yeah, but other
Speaker 1: six and scoring tied for points allowed. They're not getting
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks. I think they really miss miss
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick. Brian Burns is a very good player, Derek
Speaker 1: Derek Brown in the middle is a good player. But
Speaker 1: I think they're really missing Hassan Reddick, who went to
Speaker 1: the Eagles and you said, you know how well they're
Speaker 1: doing and they're giving up a hundred thirty three point
Speaker 1: three rushing yards per game, and now the Buccaneers bring
Speaker 1: in the statistically worst run attack in the league. Can
Speaker 1: we get Can we get? Right with all this stuff
Speaker 1: you did? Now you just scared me for this game?
Speaker 1: Well right, because, as we said, the obviously convenient storyline
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to unfold. But this is last week's game
Speaker 1: wasn't about the Steelers. It was about the Buccaneers not
Speaker 1: living up to the team that they should be. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not the way the Steelers feel about No. No,
Speaker 1: but but if you that's how we feel it, and
Speaker 1: that's how you should feel about it, you know, And
Speaker 1: in the way the game played out, and in this
Speaker 1: particular game too. You gotta play your game, and unfortunately
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers have not played the last few weeks the
Speaker 1: way they should. Um. Well, they won two weeks ago. Yes,
Speaker 1: they played great for three quarters, just had a little trouble. See,
Speaker 1: now there you go. Now that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: They played great for three quarters. I am talking about
Speaker 1: the complete four games. We haven't hadn't had one yet,
Speaker 1: but they showed what they can do in those three
Speaker 1: quarters and then just had a little bit of trouble
Speaker 1: finishing it off, but did get the win that we're
Speaker 1: talking about the Atlanta game at this point. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: wins are hard in the NFL, So take them when
Speaker 1: you can get them. That's we said that always and
Speaker 1: it's never going to change. If we had gotten the
Speaker 1: ball back and Tom Brady had led yet another of
Speaker 1: his is patented game winning field goal drives, we would
Speaker 1: we wouldn't even be talking about an ugly win. We
Speaker 1: would be saying this again, isn't it Isn't it funny
Speaker 1: if once you win, it's like you don't think about
Speaker 1: all the other things. Well, I mean coaches do, but
Speaker 1: well they don't. The players you're saying how they might
Speaker 1: feel about it, They shouldn't be feeling anything about that
Speaker 1: Steelers game now because has win loser drawn move on
Speaker 1: after you can. You can accelebrate or while in your pity,
Speaker 1: but you have to move on after the one thing
Speaker 1: we had in touch or wait, maybe maybe that was
Speaker 1: a question about Tom Brady not being here. That's going
Speaker 1: to get in question. It's in one of our questions. Then.
Speaker 1: I was just trying to remember before we So, um,
Speaker 1: do you have anything else? I think I'm pretty good
Speaker 1: right now? Then do you? Yeah? But you don't. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna like it? Why because I feel like I
Speaker 1: started a little fantasy football segment. Well, this is what
Speaker 1: you want to do, your fantasy football part. Did you
Speaker 1: play the guy from the Atlanta Falcon pit? No, we
Speaker 1: already talked about that. You didn't play he was hurt?
Speaker 1: Oh you mean this week? This week? Did you play him? No?
Speaker 1: But don't I know he scored a touchdown, but he
Speaker 1: still only had like three catches for fifteen yards. I
Speaker 1: started on a different tite end instead of him. We
Speaker 1: didn't do anything either. I'm not putting him back in
Speaker 1: my lineup until I'm not cutting him though, but I'm
Speaker 1: not putting them back in. Probably very very relieved to
Speaker 1: hear that you're not cutting him. Um, it's one less
Speaker 1: thing is yes, No, it's fine. The the well I
Speaker 1: am I am learning. I am learning that, you know,
Speaker 1: perhaps I need to be a little better educated about
Speaker 1: fantasy football and maybe I will get in, you know,
Speaker 1: involved in it. That would be an amazing tournament. It
Speaker 1: could happen. Um. I'm just saying that I started three
Speaker 1: weeks ago with a player recommendation and it went great,
Speaker 1: and it did, and then I did it again with
Speaker 1: I think Damian Pierce is gonna win great and I
Speaker 1: believe my one last week was Gabe Davis, who had
Speaker 1: I had not started, and he had a huge game
Speaker 1: in Week five, like a ninety eight and a sixty
Speaker 1: two yard touchdown. So I said, I liked it. Again,
Speaker 1: start Gabe Davis again. He did well again. So who
Speaker 1: is your Fantasy pick player of the week of the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Wide receiver Rondale Moore and in this case,
Speaker 1: when I'm telling you is I'm pointing out, like the
Speaker 1: guys that pointed out before, we're probably even though they
Speaker 1: just got a new wide receiver. I'm getting to that
Speaker 1: the guys that pointed out before, um, we're basically guys
Speaker 1: that would be on most teams. They would be on
Speaker 1: They would be on a team in most leagues. They
Speaker 1: wouldn't be out there in the waiver wire. You can
Speaker 1: probably find Rondell More of the year Zona Cardinals on
Speaker 1: the waiver wire. And I think he's a guy if
Speaker 1: you need especially maybe maybe you had Marquis Brown, the
Speaker 1: Cardinals receiver who got hurt this week and it's probably
Speaker 1: out for the year and they trade for Robby Anderson.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's hard to to to jump right
Speaker 1: in and be a big part of the offense. It's
Speaker 1: probably gonna take a little bit of an adjustment period
Speaker 1: for him. Maybe like you him as a deep threat, um,
Speaker 1: so you know you can he is fast and he
Speaker 1: can clear out, you know, for underneath routs. With this
Speaker 1: Rhyndell More, I guess he must have been hurt the
Speaker 1: first three weeks because he's um. He he didn't play,
Speaker 1: but in the three games since he's been back, they
Speaker 1: clearly want to get him the ball, uh, because he's
Speaker 1: been targeted twenty three times in those three games and
Speaker 1: clean ten in this last game. So I don't And
Speaker 1: the other guy also coming back off suspension is DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: But my point is, even with that, with Marcus brown out,
Speaker 1: I think Ryndew Moore is going to continue to get
Speaker 1: a lot of touches and they need something going there
Speaker 1: in Arizona because it ain't working right struggling, so um,
Speaker 1: they throw it to him. He's fast. I don't know
Speaker 1: if people listening to anybody remembers his put his college
Speaker 1: days at Perdue, but he was amazing. He's an electric player,
Speaker 1: just huge place. He's not very big, but he's he's electric.
Speaker 1: So that's my fantasy pick of the week. The week
Speaker 1: that's maybe I'll put up. Maybe I'll put together a
Speaker 1: little thing if I find something time where it yeah
Speaker 1: fantasy and I'm not gonna come out here and go
Speaker 1: Josh Allen there on. You're looking for the sleeper pick
Speaker 1: to put yeah to, to spice it up your your
Speaker 1: game day experience as you track your faces guy to
Speaker 1: keep an eye on this week and maybe go pick
Speaker 1: them up if you need to. Receiver is Rondel Moore. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll go all right, thanks, So that didn't hurt too much. Know,
Speaker 1: And like I said, I am really trying to learn
Speaker 1: about this because everybody taught it's mind boggling would be.
Speaker 1: And I almost feel like, you know, I'm left out
Speaker 1: because everybody's talking about their team and how well they
Speaker 1: did and this and that, and then they look at
Speaker 1: me and I go, I got nothing. I will tell
Speaker 1: you this. I do know a few people who used
Speaker 1: to play Fantasy and have stopped playing. And the reason is,
Speaker 1: and I feel this way sometimes too, is that you
Speaker 1: find yourself rooting for something you really wouldn't necessarily be
Speaker 1: rooting for. Like I don't do this in one of
Speaker 1: our games. I don't care if I've got a guy
Speaker 1: on their team play us. I want him to do badly.
Speaker 1: But you're watching the game, like maybe a Sunday night game,
Speaker 1: and you don't even care if Kansas City beats Buffalo
Speaker 1: or vice versa. You just want them to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: That's that's and you especially at the end of the week,
Speaker 1: because sometimes you're in a close thing you need I
Speaker 1: need eight points in that out of Kelsey in order
Speaker 1: to win. And so I watched the whole night for
Speaker 1: that reason, not because I care that much you. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I do feel like I could really enjoy this
Speaker 1: game more if I wasn't worried about that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: will say where I was some I don't know where
Speaker 1: I was. I was somewhere and they were talking about
Speaker 1: fantasy football and they said, oh, yeah, I I need
Speaker 1: thirty points in order to win. And I and as
Speaker 1: I walked by, I went, well, good luck with that,
Speaker 1: Like I knew what I was talking about. It. It
Speaker 1: was great. Well, if they needed thirty points at Josh
Speaker 1: Allen still to play, they would have a shot. They
Speaker 1: needed somebody on Monday night. It was yeah, because I
Speaker 1: think it was in the break room and that was
Speaker 1: Dallas and Philly, wasn't it. Yeah, and I or Sunday night, yes,
Speaker 1: Sunday night. No, he wouldn't be bakroom because we were
Speaker 1: traveling home. But it was where someone was eating because
Speaker 1: I really remember, and it was Denver in Denver and
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Yeah, but it was one of those like
Speaker 1: I said it, like I knew what I was talking. Good.
Speaker 1: I know someone who really knows fantasy and then they said,
Speaker 1: well I have Austin Ekeler and and he's right. I said, wow, wow,
Speaker 1: lucky you. You must have had the first pick. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: See again, you're displaying your fantasy football ignorance, which is
Speaker 1: you because you don't care. But um, you don't take
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the first round because there's a bigger variance
Speaker 1: between the best running backs and the ones you can
Speaker 1: get later than there is between the best quarterback. Like
Speaker 1: in in fancy drafts this year, you could get a
Speaker 1: guy like Kirk Cousins in the tenth round, and he's
Speaker 1: putting up good enough numbers, so he's not that much
Speaker 1: worse than a guy who's the guy best. So the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: they really stud ones like Josh Allen Mike go in
Speaker 1: the third round, but they don't go in the first round.
Speaker 1: You take running backs and receivers for the first couple
Speaker 1: because they can get you more. They can get you
Speaker 1: more points relative to the other players at that position,
Speaker 1: so the lead the top scoring At the end of
Speaker 1: every season, the top scoring fantasy players are usually a
Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks because they have the their position has
Speaker 1: a capability to score more points. Seeing and the whole
Speaker 1: time you explain this, I did not fall asleep. You
Speaker 1: haven't really even gotten sarcastic. At no point I am.
Speaker 1: I am truly trying to become a little more vested
Speaker 1: in the fantasy. It's it's about maximizing the value of
Speaker 1: your picks in the draft. So see, my problem is,
Speaker 1: I just I don't I don't know where I'm going
Speaker 1: to find the time because you naturally fall into this
Speaker 1: because of what you do. You know, you're looking at
Speaker 1: stats all the time, so you're comparing them and you're
Speaker 1: seeing so for you, it's like you're not doing any
Speaker 1: extra homework. You have this home. For me, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to sit down and go, Okay, what do we got? Who?
Speaker 1: You know? What you could do? Though? What's that? Cheat? No?
Speaker 1: Join the league? Okay, I don't. I don't know how
Speaker 1: you cheat and fantasy football unless you colude with another owner.
Speaker 1: But another owner, they're called owners. It probably isn't a
Speaker 1: great word, and I would prefer not to say it,
Speaker 1: but I'm not surprised that I occasionally say it. Um,
Speaker 1: you could just wait until the day of the draft,
Speaker 1: go on whichever is your preferred site, and okay, I
Speaker 1: called cheat sheets, and it ranks every player to basics.
Speaker 1: So basically, okay, so you're using someone else's resources what
Speaker 1: I do somewhere, it would be someone else's resources no
Speaker 1: matter where you get them, unless you're the expert. So
Speaker 1: what I tend to do is over the months leading
Speaker 1: up to draft season, which is usually the end of August,
Speaker 1: is listen to podcasts and stuff just for entertainment and
Speaker 1: read a few things, and then I have a formed
Speaker 1: opinion on a couple of players full of players, and
Speaker 1: in other words, I just used the list. I have
Speaker 1: an idea. Those who regularly listen to the Salty Dogs
Speaker 1: and send questions in tell us whether you like this
Speaker 1: fantasy feature or not. I want to know. I really
Speaker 1: want to know, because if if you know, I don't
Speaker 1: want people getting bored by this. Well yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I just possible curious because we're kind of like all over.
Speaker 1: You can ask us the question you want to ask
Speaker 1: any which also tell us how you feel about it's
Speaker 1: just yeah, you ask your question and inside, oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, yeah I hate Scott's fancy football segment. Or
Speaker 1: by the way, I took Scott's advice and I won.
Speaker 1: I won this week. Yeah, but to send us questions.
Speaker 1: In fact, now that we're on the topic, let's let's
Speaker 1: end this one and remember the final segment of this
Speaker 1: is we answer your question. Yes, so you're good on
Speaker 1: what we've on the we are the Steelers game and
Speaker 1: the Panthers game. Yeah, we are definitely gonna do your questions.
Speaker 1: So let's wrap this part up now. Okay, it's wrapped
Speaker 1: up the Salty Dogs and we're back here for the
Speaker 1: last part of this podcast, which is always your part
Speaker 1: where we answer your questions and we just saying. What
Speaker 1: I like about this part is I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get stumped on anything. I know. I don't
Speaker 1: have to be on my toes. I just have to
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, like when you when you're coming in.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because in fairness, Scott is pretty much
Speaker 1: he decides where we're going with this, and I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of here seeing if I can make Scott mad.
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't really make me back well last
Speaker 1: week last week. This week, I would process over results arguments.
Speaker 1: Last week, a few people in the hallway made a
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Speaker 1: they said to me that you good job. No, No,
Speaker 1: they said you're really salty, and I said, well that's
Speaker 1: my job. It's a salty doge. There he went, No,
Speaker 1: you're just being salty all the time. Now it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I am this podcast off. Yes, perhaps it's it's
Speaker 1: a lifestyle. The salty dog that goes back to the
Speaker 1: person the listener that has asked us on several occasions
Speaker 1: when we're gonna get some merch, where are the salty
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Speaker 1: built up a little bit and we start cranking it out,
Speaker 1: we are already you know. Uh see. The problem is
Speaker 1: is that we have the front. What they don't understand
Speaker 1: is you and I will have the front the beginning
Speaker 1: of it. And I really don't want to have a
Speaker 1: lot of salty dogs. I think we would probably max
Speaker 1: off at about five souls. You think, Uh, I guess
Speaker 1: it depends on how good the design is. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: of the microphone, and then talk to Vince who's director
Speaker 1: of purchasing to say, Vince, how much would it cost
Speaker 1: us to have five T shirts done? And then you
Speaker 1: gotta fair aut a price point because you want to
Speaker 1: turn a little bit of a problem right now. The
Speaker 1: trick is that you make your price point and then
Speaker 1: you include uh, free shipping in your thing. So you say, hey,
Speaker 1: that it's already kind of built into the price point. Yes,
Speaker 1: you say the twenty dollars, but it's free shipping. This
Speaker 1: one goes Wow only and it cost us three dollars
Speaker 1: and make there you go, all right, I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about business. I don't either. I would have thought
Speaker 1: you had some business now, well I do, but it's
Speaker 1: it um limited is nearly non existent. Um okay, here
Speaker 1: we go. This is from Mike in Connecticut. We've heard
Speaker 1: from both. Hey, guys, I know I'm writing this in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. So this was on Sunday obviously, So
Speaker 1: maybe it gets better. Spoiler alert, it didn't. That was
Speaker 1: kind of my whole point at the beginning. I kept
Speaker 1: waiting for it to get better, and it didn't. So
Speaker 1: maybe it gets better. But man, the Bucks think on
Speaker 1: their first drives this year, it's like they need to
Speaker 1: first drive for a warm up. Have we lost every
Speaker 1: coin toss this year? No? Uh, it's the only reason
Speaker 1: I can think we ever take the ball first. Maybe
Speaker 1: the old Man needs I don't think it's I'm not
Speaker 1: buying in to call him Tom Brady the old way.
Speaker 1: Let's make sure everybody knows I'm reading this from a
Speaker 1: guy named Mike in Connecticut. Maybe the old Man needs
Speaker 1: a few series dot old Just curiously, if if we've
Speaker 1: lost them all, I'm not sure where that status kept,
Speaker 1: that status kept by me. Yes, we have not. We
Speaker 1: have won two out of six so far, and I
Speaker 1: believe I should have brought that down two out of six.
Speaker 1: We've only won two coin houses out of six games. Um.
Speaker 1: And and we probably would have deferred, because that's what
Speaker 1: most teams do. Um. They defer because they want to
Speaker 1: have the ball to start the second half. Hopefully they
Speaker 1: have the ball in the last in the first half,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, you do that thing that the Patriots
Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick invented, scoring quickly four and after the half. Right,
Speaker 1: they're the only team that never thought that that would
Speaker 1: be a good idea. Um, Yeah, I think we would defer.
Speaker 1: The great thing about deferring is when if you stop
Speaker 1: the at the beginning of the game, if you stop
Speaker 1: the other team on their first drive, then you're ahead already, right, Um, Well,
Speaker 1: you also feel like you're gonna get it that extra possession.
Speaker 1: That so um And that's unfortunately what our opponents have
Speaker 1: been able to do. We have not been particularly good
Speaker 1: on first drives. And he's right. And even when they've
Speaker 1: gone well, like I believe in Atlanta, didn't we drive
Speaker 1: all the way down there but then failed in the
Speaker 1: fourth down. So it's not like they have completely been
Speaker 1: unable to move the ball and gone three and out.
Speaker 1: But he's right. We've had some field goals, had some
Speaker 1: we haven't had that drive where you just come out
Speaker 1: and march right down there and you're going, oh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be something today. Yeah. No, we haven't had that.
Speaker 1: But anyway, we've had in the past three years, but
Speaker 1: not this year. I should have brought it down with me,
Speaker 1: but I have another one of my stat files is
Speaker 1: situational records, and it's like three pages long, and it's
Speaker 1: all kinds of things like, um, you know when you
Speaker 1: allowed zero to two sacks or three to five sex,
Speaker 1: when you got zero to two sacks, three or five
Speaker 1: set stuff like that. When you when you hit this
Speaker 1: these benchmarks in certain statistical categories, Um, you know, what's
Speaker 1: your record? And I have had this sheet itself has
Speaker 1: ten years worth of those on it, so you can
Speaker 1: I can tell you, Like I can't tell you because
Speaker 1: I didn't bring it down, but I and tell you, like,
Speaker 1: what's our record when Mike Evan scores a touchdown? What's
Speaker 1: our record when we were white jerseys and puter pants?
Speaker 1: What's our record on the road? I know, I know
Speaker 1: when it's above eight and below forty. Um. So I'm
Speaker 1: not the only one, but Mike the question, the answer
Speaker 1: your question is me. That's where it's kept in my files,
Speaker 1: which are the team's files. I do it for the
Speaker 1: team PR has access to. But you have a good
Speaker 1: memory and you retain a lot of I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: I remember us being maybe two and oh when we
Speaker 1: win the coin toss and one in three when we didn't.
Speaker 1: I'll try to bring it up. I will say, I
Speaker 1: will say, you know, it's fun to look at that stuff,
Speaker 1: but you're not winning and losing by the coin toss
Speaker 1: unless you're in overtime. Yeah. So um. Anyway, but that
Speaker 1: was his question, good question, all right. Next one the
Speaker 1: fact that he's writing it in the first quarter. He
Speaker 1: must have been really cranked up he wrote it. It
Speaker 1: was he was talking specifically about the coin toss and
Speaker 1: the first drive. He was like, was right, he's not
Speaker 1: before I forget at what he was Mike, isn't kneepad guy? Right?
Speaker 1: I think that guy's name was. I thought it wasn't. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's another guy altogether. I get confused. We have so
Speaker 1: many well this guy. The next question comes from a
Speaker 1: guy who I believe sent his questions for the first
Speaker 1: time last week and must have enjoyed it because he's back. Well,
Speaker 1: first part of his he's clearing it up, if you remember,
Speaker 1: this is Mike Quardal is his name. And one of
Speaker 1: his questions about how nobody was talking about everybody's talking
Speaker 1: about the um roughing the pastor penalty against Atlanta Grady
Speaker 1: Jarrett and no, he said nobody was talking about the
Speaker 1: obvious miss Scottie Miller past reference call on the play before.
Speaker 1: And my response to that was I didn't agree with
Speaker 1: the premise because I've heard tons of people talking about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we yeah, we talked about it. But he says I'd
Speaker 1: like to clear up what I meant about no one
Speaker 1: talking about the d p I that wasn't called for Scooter. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was talked about in the comments, but the host
Speaker 1: and panels of these shows never mentioned it. Rich Eyes
Speaker 1: and stephen A. Keyshaw. But if you want real Buckaneer information,
Speaker 1: you could come to the Salty Dogs. They're national people.
Speaker 1: They're taking you know what you know, they're taking the
Speaker 1: stuff that we say and using this. I would say
Speaker 1: I would. I didn't know that because I don't watch
Speaker 1: those shows. Um, I do watch some sports stuff Rich
Speaker 1: Eyes and is he on the Shore? Is that radio
Speaker 1: he does? He? Well, it's a podcast that's also TV,
Speaker 1: you know, like what they which which they want to
Speaker 1: do to us. But I'm having a red line on that,
Speaker 1: well because that means we would have to dress up, yes,
Speaker 1: and but we could wear our new Salty Dogs T shirts.
Speaker 1: That'll be the hook We'll do. TV will do a
Speaker 1: TV version if they get a Salty Dog teach. I
Speaker 1: don't like the shows, and I think Stephen a is
Speaker 1: his show is one of those where they just have
Speaker 1: and they make hot takes for the sake of hot takes. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I want my hot takes to come organically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it gets ratings. Yeah, they basically say, okay, you
Speaker 1: take this side, I'll take this side. Yeah I do too. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Keshan fan. Well you heard me go,
Speaker 1: That's all I got. Secondly, how have we gone from
Speaker 1: l f G to w t F The red zone
Speaker 1: offense has been ridiculous and by that I assume he
Speaker 1: means ridiculously bad. And this game show, this game shows
Speaker 1: the proof is in the pudding. How much do you
Speaker 1: think here, here's what you've been waiting for. How much
Speaker 1: do you think that Brady's time off and the off
Speaker 1: the field situation he's dealing with is affecting the continuity
Speaker 1: of the offense affecting Also, why is Craft by that
Speaker 1: he means Robert Patriots on a rock Craft having a
Speaker 1: wedding during the season. I think that was the best
Speaker 1: question since you did. Thanks for reading. Keep up the
Speaker 1: good work. Let's go back to lf G. Mike Quardal
Speaker 1: I kind of I kind of think it's a point there.
Speaker 1: Why why does an NFL owner have his wedding in
Speaker 1: the middle of the season, Because you're ready, no the answer? Okay,
Speaker 1: he would it excuse me, Elton John did not here
Speaker 1: we go, you're ready. Elton John was going to do
Speaker 1: in the summertime, was doing a show at Gillette Stadium
Speaker 1: and he was talking with Robert Kraft and and they
Speaker 1: were talking and h Elton said to Robert, so when
Speaker 1: are you getting married? And he goes, well, we're not
Speaker 1: really sure. We're trying to, you know, work it out.
Speaker 1: And Elton John said, my gift to you is that
Speaker 1: I want to perform at your wedding reception or wedding,
Speaker 1: and so let's work it out. If you get Elton
Speaker 1: John's tour schedule out, you will see that he has
Speaker 1: an open date over this weekend, this past weekend. So
Speaker 1: that is why it was then, is because Elton John
Speaker 1: was going to perform at that reception ceremony because they
Speaker 1: believe they got they got married, or they're gonna get married.
Speaker 1: But you got invited to it not knowing that it
Speaker 1: was going to be a wedding, see you, because you
Speaker 1: were invited for a party type situation, some kind of
Speaker 1: celebration for Robert Kraft. And then they was he I
Speaker 1: didn't get the invitation, so I don't get no but
Speaker 1: al Michaels was the one that announced that he got
Speaker 1: married in a in a video. So the reason why
Speaker 1: he did it during the season, this is from my research.
Speaker 1: Whether it's true or not, uh is because of Elton
Speaker 1: john sketch. How about that. You gotta admit you get
Speaker 1: answers to your questions in this podcast. I didn't think
Speaker 1: that question was going to get a real solid answer.
Speaker 1: So okay, And I don't think Tom Brady on Friday
Speaker 1: not being here or or on sat Day's walk through
Speaker 1: because he was, you know, I don't think that affected
Speaker 1: anything because he put the work in. There's a misconception
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is taking Wednesday's off every time. He's
Speaker 1: definitely not correct. And the also misconception is if a
Speaker 1: veteran is not practicing, that does not mean he's not
Speaker 1: in the building. It means he's in the building. He's
Speaker 1: going through. He may even go through walkthrough. He you know,
Speaker 1: it does the walkthrough. He's right, and then there in
Speaker 1: the meetings. It's not like they get a day off,
Speaker 1: whereas Bueller's day off and they're out having a good time.
Speaker 1: That's that's not what it's Even he didn't even miss
Speaker 1: a practice. He missed. He missed a Saturday walk through
Speaker 1: and he didn't travel with the team, so he met
Speaker 1: the team because he went up there Friday night. Correct. Correct,
Speaker 1: And so just just give a little other insight here
Speaker 1: is on Friday nights, players don't have curview, they have
Speaker 1: life's so they go and do other things. Then they
Speaker 1: have to be back Saturday for well, they have Saturday,
Speaker 1: which is right rum the Saturday night before the game,
Speaker 1: they do have a curfew, and Tom was there for
Speaker 1: the curfew, and he was there. Yeah, I saw him
Speaker 1: as soon as we got to the hotel. In fact,
Speaker 1: I ended up walking um out of the on on
Speaker 1: Sunday morning. I was walking down there, you know, we
Speaker 1: went down the escalators and kind of around the corner
Speaker 1: and um, just at that same moment, Tom Brady came
Speaker 1: around this these pipe and drapes. So we ended up
Speaker 1: walking very closely there and there was a group of
Speaker 1: fans there and they all started going, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I didn't know he and and I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, I didn't realize I was this popular
Speaker 1: Salty Dogs. Yeah. Um, isn't it weird? Though? When you
Speaker 1: see him though, I always do it take back like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is Tom Brady. But no, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a fact. You know what, it's a it's a fair
Speaker 1: question to ask that because the team didn't play as
Speaker 1: well as you expected them too. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that was the cause. It's it's I guess it's a
Speaker 1: fair question, but it's not really a very productive one
Speaker 1: because there's no chance that the coach is going to
Speaker 1: stand there and say yes, yeah, yes, Tom Brady missing
Speaker 1: the walk through is the reason why we lost a game. Well,
Speaker 1: guys have missed for various reasons. One of the things
Speaker 1: Todd said, and it's true because you know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like you say, uh, you know, football season, your
Speaker 1: life stops, and it kind of does, because you know,
Speaker 1: you're so involved in football and you and I have
Speaker 1: done this for many years and there's things that we
Speaker 1: can and can't do during the football season. However, that
Speaker 1: being said, sometimes you just have to. You know, my goddaughter,
Speaker 1: my goddaughter got married last October and I flew to
Speaker 1: San Francisco on a Thursday, and I was at the
Speaker 1: game and did the game. You know, I flew back.
Speaker 1: I actually had to come back to Tampa when the
Speaker 1: blessing was it was a four o'clock game, so I
Speaker 1: was able to red eye back. Yeah. My sister was
Speaker 1: getting married next October, and she um, she very kindly,
Speaker 1: this is very kind of her. But she kept asking me, like,
Speaker 1: would this date work? Would you be able to be there?
Speaker 1: Because like, I can't answer that question until May of
Speaker 1: next year. But so I said, just schedule you're whenever
Speaker 1: you want it, and I will be there. I may
Speaker 1: miss a game for the first time for reasons other
Speaker 1: than COVID or that one time in ninety three where
Speaker 1: we stopped for one game. We yeah, you didn't want
Speaker 1: to take as many players people on the plane. But
Speaker 1: that last year one game, Yeah, no, that is that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean what I'm telling him, like, Debbie, I'm going
Speaker 1: to be at your wedding. Your sister's name is Debbie,
Speaker 1: she goes, mainly she was We called her Debbie when
Speaker 1: we were young. But she go, I didn't know that
Speaker 1: because my sister's name is did. Yeah, what's her mental name? Oh, Jeff,
Speaker 1: come on, that's pretty close. My sister's name is debor Gene.
Speaker 1: I had to think for a second, that's how my
Speaker 1: only sibling. Do you have any others. I have an
Speaker 1: older brother and I've lost two Sibly, I brought, no,
Speaker 1: you're fine, You're fine, um, Okay, So I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I do not believe that this affected Tom. Um. It's
Speaker 1: impossible for us to know in totality how his various
Speaker 1: things off the field, um, which I'm not going to
Speaker 1: discuss because I don't think it's any of my business. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's it's impossible for us to know how that's
Speaker 1: affecting him or how any players affected by things going
Speaker 1: on off the field. I think you just have to
Speaker 1: trust him when they say it's not especially when the
Speaker 1: coaches say it's not what you know a lot of times,
Speaker 1: sometimes you hear something and you think to yourself, I'm
Speaker 1: not buying that, you know. I will say that when
Speaker 1: Tom Brady says he's focused, I believe that, and I
Speaker 1: believe and I believe that he knows how to compartment
Speaker 1: compartmenter melanize, compartmentalize his um when he's football. Well not
Speaker 1: only that, but you know, you have to remember he's
Speaker 1: been living in a fish bowl for how many years?
Speaker 1: So for him, that's the norm. Okay, that that is
Speaker 1: the norm. So he knows how to navigate those waters
Speaker 1: where if it's somebody different and it happens to them
Speaker 1: and they've never had to deal with it in the
Speaker 1: public eye, it would affect them differently. I just think that, um,
Speaker 1: it's it comes down to He's He's he despises losing,
Speaker 1: which is why he is so adamant about his preparations.
Speaker 1: So there's no chance that tom Brady is going to
Speaker 1: come to the game less prepared than he should be.
Speaker 1: It's just not going to happen. And I thought the
Speaker 1: silliest part of this whole and I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: to you, Mike, you didn't say this. I thought the
Speaker 1: silliest part of this whole discord is the people saying
Speaker 1: that it was a bad move because it showed the
Speaker 1: Steelers that Tom Brady didn't think he had to prepare
Speaker 1: for them in order to beat them, and so that
Speaker 1: fired them up. If that fired the Steelers, of they
Speaker 1: had a problem. If I needed that, but I don't.
Speaker 1: He would never say he missed a walk through on
Speaker 1: Saturday morning. He did prepare as much as he needed
Speaker 1: to for that game, as much as it warranted. That's
Speaker 1: all the players did. That's great talk show fodder. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. These things percent more. Just like you said,
Speaker 1: talk show fadder a storyline that somebody thinks could be
Speaker 1: the case, so let's play about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I tend to stay away from those. Answer your question, no,
Speaker 1: and I think we'll be fine. That we have been
Speaker 1: very good in the red zone. Maybe we're miss maybe
Speaker 1: some of the personnel is different and that's not helping.
Speaker 1: But in previous years, as I mentioned earlier, we've been
Speaker 1: very good in the red zone. So the potentials there.
Speaker 1: I just think they need to maybe they need to
Speaker 1: review all the play calls, see what's working, what's not
Speaker 1: working on saying calls, I'm saying, but some of them
Speaker 1: aren't working, so let's not do that. Okay. Next question
Speaker 1: from Phil in the Orange County, California, who said Happy
Speaker 1: Halloween and has a little wonder what part of Orange
Speaker 1: County is because that's a big county. If I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: Phil is a huge Buccaneers fan. Is a school teacher.
Speaker 1: That Steeler's loss hurt. HI s dogs that Steelers lost hurt,
Speaker 1: But I'm not worried. The Bucks are still the class
Speaker 1: of this division. And this division says nine and seven
Speaker 1: could win it anyway. Wow, except that there's seventeen games
Speaker 1: in the season now, so if you finished nine and seven,
Speaker 1: I mean someone went wrong tied. Um. It does seem
Speaker 1: to me, however, that we're really missing what we're really missing,
Speaker 1: what they're really missing. I'll get this right eventual is grunk.
Speaker 1: They miss him in short yardage, in the red zone,
Speaker 1: and probably in the locker room. Do you agree? Yeah? Sure,
Speaker 1: I I don't know if did we miss him in
Speaker 1: the locker room other than he's just a fun guy. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that's probably the point here. Um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think we haven't found that. I think
Speaker 1: the Rams we don't have. We haven't found the replacement
Speaker 1: that scares the opposing team. If you have Mike Evans
Speaker 1: covered Chris Godwin, you're we're still looking for that guy
Speaker 1: to come for the middle. I think the Rams are
Speaker 1: missing Odell Beckham. I think the Panthers are missing. As
Speaker 1: I said earlier, the Rams are missing Von Miller too.
Speaker 1: The Rams are missing Von Miller. It doesn't look like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are really missing, but they're but they're struggling
Speaker 1: and really they're doing pretty good. They just lost to
Speaker 1: the Bills. Manage. Their offense has been just fine and
Speaker 1: Petrim the Packers are missing Davante Adams. This is something
Speaker 1: that Happs Tetons all the time, and you just get
Speaker 1: Eventually a good player leaves and you have to you
Speaker 1: have to adjust. So, yeah, the Bucks are probably missing Rock,
Speaker 1: but they don't they could do about it. And that's
Speaker 1: how you can tell you're a good player, because it
Speaker 1: makes a difference when you're gone. If you're mediocre, it's like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: So my phone's not ringing. Yeah, but to what extent?
Speaker 1: And should the Buccaneers The Buccaneers should be able to
Speaker 1: succeed offensively with what they have with or without Rock. True. True,
Speaker 1: So I said to answer the question is yes, But
Speaker 1: this is a factive life for every team in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and you have to find a way to move on
Speaker 1: and succeed in a different manner. And and they're trying.
Speaker 1: And health issues haven't helped things either. Because Julio Jones
Speaker 1: we are hoping for is it hasn't been able to play.
Speaker 1: God wanted to miss time. We're missing Ryan Jensen, Ali,
Speaker 1: Mark Pett retired, Rudolph hasn't played well, that's not injury, right, no, no,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that that he's still trying to
Speaker 1: figure out his his piece into the puzzle. So yes,
Speaker 1: next one from a Scott R in Brandon, and he says,
Speaker 1: which is definitely not north of Tampa. Remember that from
Speaker 1: I know, three and three isn't the end of the world.
Speaker 1: And the Bucks are still tied for first and probably
Speaker 1: are the favorites. We just said this earlier, probably are
Speaker 1: the favorites to win the division. But man, this season
Speaker 1: doesn't feel right so far. I think that's maybe we're
Speaker 1: spoiled by the last couple of years. Fair, but it's
Speaker 1: hard to watch the Bucks right now and think they
Speaker 1: really are Super Bowl contenders. So I need you guys
Speaker 1: to give us Bucks fans, us Bucks fans some reason
Speaker 1: for hope. Dick deep, dig deep into your salty dog
Speaker 1: knowledge and give us examples of seasons that started out
Speaker 1: like this but then it turned out much better. Thanks
Speaker 1: in Advanced for making me feel better. We were five
Speaker 1: one that year, Jeffrey. Yeah, but it lost the first game,
Speaker 1: but otherwise the Star Wars didn't feel that good. After
Speaker 1: the Kansas City game, Well that was three weeks in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: three months in, right, But I'm just saying, Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: I was saying because I didn't think it was jelly,
Speaker 1: just you. Coming out of the bye week after lost
Speaker 1: to Kansas City, we did not seem like Super Bowl favorites,
Speaker 1: and then we won eight straight games in the trophy.
Speaker 1: What's your year? What's your Yeah? Well, admitted to the
Speaker 1: championship game. So here we go. Tony Dungee's hired nine six, right,
Speaker 1: the Glaciers brought the team in nine five, and what
Speaker 1: would foul would be a lot of different developments that
Speaker 1: finally pulled the franchise that had been in the duldrums
Speaker 1: for a decade and a half out and made them
Speaker 1: contenders again. Tony Dungeon arrived to six, started out owing five,
Speaker 1: stick with the plan, good finish to the season. They
Speaker 1: break through for the first playoff birth and fifteen years
Speaker 1: started that season five and oh there were some struggles.
Speaker 1: They were a good team, but they had some flaws
Speaker 1: and lost some close games and finished eight and eight
Speaker 1: just outside the playoffs. Got the Arizona Cardinals into field
Speaker 1: goal range and still eighty You probably shouldn't expect, well,
Speaker 1: that's true, but we were on the airplane flying home
Speaker 1: after beating since UM. So then you go to it's
Speaker 1: clear that the Buccaneers have one of the best defenses
Speaker 1: in the league. That would become even more clear season along.
Speaker 1: And I think the expectations were pretty high. But after
Speaker 1: your breakthrough an you had the no plaoffs eight and
Speaker 1: then you started with a three and four record, um
Speaker 1: and so, so some people were probably thinking Okaye was
Speaker 1: a fluke and then we're going, we're not going to
Speaker 1: get over the hump here. You're selling me on this
Speaker 1: three and four to the point, and Trente forgot benched
Speaker 1: for Eric's sire, I think, and then um, I think
Speaker 1: we lost badly at Detroit, maybe on Halloween or right
Speaker 1: around Halloween, and one famous writer from the area who
Speaker 1: was no longer with us UM wrote that this team
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't win another game all year. They proceeded to
Speaker 1: win I think seven in a row. Team records something
Speaker 1: like eight of their last nine. Yeah, and then but
Speaker 1: it wasn't that the year that they lost like forty
Speaker 1: five to nothing against Oakland and Raiders. So they won
Speaker 1: eight of their last nine and weirdly lost like forty
Speaker 1: one to nothing in in there in I guess back
Speaker 1: then it was all the funny. The funny you bring
Speaker 1: up that, Um, it was written that they wouldn't win
Speaker 1: another game That next year, I am seed a chamber
Speaker 1: luncheon for the Greater Tampa Bay Area and Tony and
Speaker 1: I introduced. I was the MC. So I introduced Tony
Speaker 1: Dungee and he came up and you know, everybody's clapping,
Speaker 1: and he said, pretty good for a team, for a
Speaker 1: team that wasn't gonna win any other games. So so
Speaker 1: he yeah, he had seen it. Yeah, they reeled off
Speaker 1: something like eight out of nine. You sold me. That's
Speaker 1: a good year. Yes. Remember remember Trent came back, got
Speaker 1: his job back, but then got hurt. Shaun Kaine came
Speaker 1: in and uh did a real last job of winning
Speaker 1: a couple of games. Then they beat Washington I think
Speaker 1: in the provisional round because we had a first round
Speaker 1: by and then uh the game in St. Louis against
Speaker 1: the Rams, which they almost shut down, the greatest show
Speaker 1: on turf they were. The Bucks were like five minutes
Speaker 1: from the six because they got a safety Ricky Ricky
Speaker 1: f and parole. So that season, that's the has it
Speaker 1: felt bad at least it's certainly at the three and four,
Speaker 1: which is pretty close to where we are now. Hands down,
Speaker 1: I give you that. You you win that one. Thank you,
Speaker 1: you win that one. So there you go. It could
Speaker 1: definitely happen, especially if you have a team that you
Speaker 1: know is town to that. That year, we knew we
Speaker 1: had an incredible defense. This year, we know we have
Speaker 1: a good defense and we have a lot we have
Speaker 1: a lot of guns. We just got to get them together.
Speaker 1: Oh good job on the cough button. I think I
Speaker 1: think a lot of I think the I think we
Speaker 1: need to get some things figured out up front. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that's that's the key. And
Speaker 1: it's just not surprising, no, And there's a lot of
Speaker 1: young guys on the old line, and and I think
Speaker 1: that that I think we got spoiled with Tristan worse
Speaker 1: right away going in and playing as well. But you
Speaker 1: have to remember he played the position he's playing in college,
Speaker 1: where you know, I get a key has moved over
Speaker 1: to the other side. He was a tackles so he
Speaker 1: know you have to give some you know, you may
Speaker 1: not be happy where they are, but I certainly am
Speaker 1: happy with the direction they are going, and so are
Speaker 1: the coaches. It's just the trials and tribulations that you're
Speaker 1: having with them right now, that that make it difficult. Okay,
Speaker 1: one more from our friend in Brazil, Alexander, who is
Speaker 1: a good one. I'm pretty sure Alexanders misspelled his own
Speaker 1: last name, and really you must have been type of
Speaker 1: too fast. That's probably on his alex going back, go
Speaker 1: back into your sent items folder and see if I'm
Speaker 1: right about that. Um HOI salty ones. Hope this finds
Speaker 1: you both well. If a player receives a pass from
Speaker 1: his QB and then passes it latterly to his teammate,
Speaker 1: and this play goes for twenty yards, which ten came
Speaker 1: from the QB pass, how many yards does the QB
Speaker 1: get from the statistical point? Does the guy who pass
Speaker 1: it latterally get passing yard stats? Since you did? Thanks
Speaker 1: for reading. The answer is no, it's since it's a
Speaker 1: la a pass and it has to be backwards if
Speaker 1: you're across the line score or it would be um
Speaker 1: it would In fact, it would have to be period
Speaker 1: because so does the quarterback continue to get it's a pass.
Speaker 1: He he threw a pass that resulted in a game
Speaker 1: of twenty. It doesn't matter which guys did it, he
Speaker 1: gets he had and those two receivers, those two players
Speaker 1: would each get ten receiving yards. So the the guy
Speaker 1: who catches the original pass would get one reception for
Speaker 1: ten yards, and then if he laddered it to somebody
Speaker 1: else and that guy got ten more, that guy would
Speaker 1: get credit for zero receptions for ten yards, which is
Speaker 1: weird obviously, but usually that person has also caught another
Speaker 1: pass somewhere, so it doesn't look that weird in the
Speaker 1: statu sheet. I think that happened. Didn't We have a
Speaker 1: pitch around play in one of our games this year
Speaker 1: towards the end that we're losing, So you one of
Speaker 1: our guys I think it maybe a guy one or something.
Speaker 1: He had ten more yards than when he actually caught
Speaker 1: on his receptions, so he ended up like five or
Speaker 1: four six or something. So yeah, you can technically, if
Speaker 1: you can technically finish the game his zero catches, but
Speaker 1: some recidis if you are recipient to collateral electoral research,
Speaker 1: but the quarterback just gets all the arms. I think
Speaker 1: that's a great question. Yeah, it is. Anybody needs to
Speaker 1: help understanding football. We have to. We're here to help.
Speaker 1: That's all I got. Jeff Well very good. Thanks for
Speaker 1: all the questions everyone, Yes, appreciate that and we look
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